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‘Burn the Mexican flag!’

By Nico Pitney on Apr 1st, 2006 at 12:30 am

‘Burn the Mexican flag!’

Some constructive advice from Michael Savage, a go-to source for anti-immigration hardliners and certain senior presidential advisors.



60 Responses to “‘Burn the Mexican flag!’”

  1. GURU says:

    Would Michael [Weiner]Savage like the Zionist flag burned?


  2. Armando Gomez says:

    This email was originally written for someone else but now it’s rehash to suit Michael Savage’s pea-sized universe:

    Whether Michael Savage believes he’s enlightened or is in it for personal gain he had successfully manipulated those who are opposed to civil rights and the American way. In other words, Savage is the very antitheses of personal liberty and goes out of his way to get Americans to believe against their own self interests. That’s why in the last 5 years Americans have voted against their own self interests and the very premise of logic.

    What follows is Savage’s and his ilk of writers’ participation in manipulation and exploitation: Preeminence of the White race at the expense of all Americans–including Whites. And it starts with the basic premise that their (White America) sense of history and self-worth has come under question. To them this is unacceptable–at any and all cost; which is what’s happening at this moment. Realistically, all this began to manifest when Ronald Reagan was elected as president. But in all honestly, I believe it really started with the Vietnam War and its shocking and unacceptable conclusion: we lost; Savage is quick to exploit this. And it wasn’t just the war we lost–we also lost our president, Richard Nixon.

    This sent a shock wave, border to border and coast to coast of White America. This proved that the war was a phony and President Nixon a liar, and a great opportunity for Savage. This forced Americans to question the very core of their moral foundation and their sense of purpose–their purpose of self-righteous, which they believe is their destiny and guided by the Light from above.

    All this imploded when Nixon tanked. Savage pulls all the stops on this one to make sure it’s not “our” fault but “theirs.” Within a couple of years afterward a new and up coming Right Wing movement (the neo-conservatives) went to work, scoring one victory after another in their religious sectors, in their communities, in their state government. Savage was right behind them in support. And I believe all this was spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation. The Foundation’s tactics: Accuse the liberals of anti-family, anti-God, anti-America, anti-mother, anti-marriage, anti-fetus and in short: anti-liberal all around. With the help of the “liberal” media (and Savage’s) they made the word liberal an expletive (remember the “L” word?).

    All this was funded by the multi-right wing millionaires and corporations. And I believe Savage know who and what they are. What this movement accomplishes was to exonerate America of its failures, and blame “The Fall” on the dirty, rotten, and back-stabbing liberals. Savage made sure of this in his books and radio spots. And Americans went for it, hook, line, and sinker. They had no choice: To accept otherwise, they would have to question their entire “white” history. Without this history–or myth–they will have to accept a more realistic one, according to Ward Churchill. White Americans found that to be totally unacceptable. And for these Americans they were ready to accept any politician, any judge, and any president–any author–that’ll tell them what they wanted to hear, especially when Jesus Christ is now considered as part of their American history. Savage couldn’t have been happier.

    That’s why these Americans are more than ready to believe such phonies as Reagan, the first Bush, and this latest disgrace, Bush, Jr. But with these Americans, it gets worse: they are willing to sacrifice their children’s and their grandchildren’s future, just so they can either be swept up by the Rapture in time or die in their sleep; the complete misery of others had become their sinful and foremost pleasure–and those of Savage’s as well.

    To me these are the worst and the most rotten cowards any nation unfortunately is straddled with; stinking vermin who aren’t fit to be scurrying about. Again, I have Michael Savage and his ilk to blame for this. These American voters’ malicious intentions toward Social Security, Medicare, pensions, childcare, the Iraq War and the support for the bankruptcy bill are but short examples of how far they have sunk.

    The talk I hear is that these Americans are the dumbest pile of rocks on the planet. Wrong: It’s worse. Sept. 11 and the Iraq War only provide further excuses for these self-proclaimed “patriots” to stab their fellow neighbors in the back by trying to dismantle our civil rights–and are the first to turn against our war heroes like John McCain, John Murtha and Max Cleland in a second; a knife behind the door.

    Because of Savage’s input all this had become acceptable, to further justifies the degradation to our veterans, the hacking away at their medical and financial benefits while allowing fantastic tax breaks go to the rich and corporate America who wouldn’t lift a finger to help our veterans or our nation.

    Savage paints a picture of “true” American self-reliance and self-assurance with his typewriter but it’s all Orwellian to the core. So, for these pro-veteran and pro-morality Americans to believe in this new White Direction, provided by the ultra-extreme Republicans and Savage’s worldview, it all proves that they have gone soft between the ears and soft between the legs. In short, STARK, RAVING PSYHOCITICS, not stupid. It’s important to understand this. This is the very core why they can’t or won’t be reached. For any animal can be “educated”–even a flatworm. And that is the answer of why these Americans are voting against their own self-interest as they are steering yours, mine, and theirs–and our country–down into the toilet. I will say that all this isn’t entirely Michael Savage’s creation but he’s one in many who had made it possible. It has been one heck of a sled ride for Michael Savage and its still is.


  3. JP says:

    I have a flag with a picture of Michael Savage’s face, and I’ll give you one guess as to where my lighter is!


  4. SiriusA says:

    If Savage had any guts he’d suggest members of his audience lynch a Mexican. That’s essentially what he’s saying, only he’s too much of a pussy to actually voice his hateful convictions. As a Jew I’m particularly disgusted and ashamed by this man. No Jew should have the capacity to so flagrantly ignore the lessons of the past. What is the FCC prepared to do about this?


  5. unbelievable says:

    Burn the Mexican flag? Grow up. Sheesh.


  6. Colorado Jyms says:

    Rove nailed this one. Divert the attention away from Iraq by any means possible. Do you really think they have any intentions of doing anything about immigration? Please.


  7. slum says:

    wow. burning these peoples flag is of course the idea and of course the exact thing you dont want to do. like the email stated above, this too has been, for decades, funded by billionaires including the rockefeller and ford foundations. this is a very fragile situation played out extremely well by these elite on their global chess board and has to be approached with the utmost caution.
    savage is the perfect name for a guy who wants you to act like barbarians.


  8. donaldleehackle says:

    You guys are morons. Savage is an entertainer….that’s what he does. Don’t waste your attention on anything he says. Stop being idiots…..my guess is that you are the same jugheads that would argue to protect burning the American flag as freedom of speech. Look at the issue, not the person. Non-partisan my ass.


  9. cats are flyfishn says:

    Here’s the plot by the government:
    1. get rid of the illegal immigrants
    2. outsource good paying American jobs to India and China
    3. now American’s will be grateful for the low paying jobs that were once performed by illegal immigrants.

    Now that will stick it to the snobby Americans. (sarcasm)

    And here’s a brilliant idea by some stupid Republican – build prisons for the illegal immigrants. This way the American taxpayer will have to pay for 3 hots and cot for each illegal immigrant – the same illigal immigrant that is currently paying for their own 3 hots and a cot.

    That’s another way to stick to the American taxpayer. (sarcasm)

    Before we even know what hit us, we will be back in the feudal system.


  10. big papa says:

    Michael Savage is just another criminal inbred cockroach…

    …he (like the rest of his racist inbred ilk) should be visited by “Orkin”…


  11. GURU says:

    To # 9 fly fish. That sounds about right.


  12. Marina hot girl says:

    Just burning is too easy.
    try to sell it on Ebay or so.


  13. Paul in Mexico says:

    This illegal immigration thing cannot be solved by congress at this time.

    This is a failure of the president to effectively negotiate with the head of another state (Mexico). This is just another failure of the shrub who can do nothing except joke about his failures. He has no accomplishments at all and is seen throught the world as a useless braggart who answers everything with a smirk.

    The shrub spent two and a half days in Mexico, and met with Fox for a total of about 2 hours and was back at his ranch on another vacation less than 24 hours after the THREE day conference had begun.

    I dont know what the answer is, but I do know that adding 11 million to the work force in the US is not the answer to the problem. That can only depress our economy even further. The dollars fleeing America at this time amount to billions a year, add another 11 million people working and sending money back to Mexico and you have created a Mexican economy whose strength has been built solely on the dollar. Thi is what Fox has intended these past 6 years.

    Has Bush done anything about it? Not no, but HELL NO! He cannot negotiate his way out of a wet paper sack.

    The failure of NAFTA is clearly evident here. Because the tenets of NAFTA were not followed, or enforced, this is now a serious, serious problem.

    Because we have a weak, do nothing, know nothing president, this situation will not be resolved for years to come.


  14. arnieVille says:

    And here’s a brilliant idea by some stupid Republican – build prisons for the illegal immigrants.

    Yesterday, it was proposed that we use prison in California as labor in the fields to do the work of the to-be-arrested illegal immigrants. Let’s play this through… illegal immigrant comes here to work on farms, gets arrested while living in substandard conditions, thrown in the big house with 3 squares and a bed and roommate, and gets bussed to work each day, probably for fewer hours than an exploited illegal. I guess they’ll also be jailing the wife and kids, too, so his family is covered. They better make one heck of a big wall.


  15. GURU says:

    #s 13 and 14;Good posts.


  16. Ron says:

    burn all the flags.


  17. profmarcus says:

    God bless Mexico…!

    I have visited mexico countless times and even lived there for a while and it is a very special place for me…

    Visit my blog: And, yes, I DO take it personally


  18. one eye buck tooth [X^B says:

    You PEOPLE are IGNORANT UPON IGNORANCE!!

    Saddam Hussein is bad man. As a 22 year old he worked with the CIA on a botched effort to assassinate Iraqi President Abd al-Karim Qasim. The CIA and Egyptian intelligence got him out of Iraq and to Lebanon, where the CIA paid for his Beirut apartment, and then to Cairo. In 1963, under the new government headed by President ‘Abd as-Salam ‘Arif, he was placed in charge of the interrogation, torture and execution of communists whose names the CIA happily provided the new regime. He rose in the Baathist party ranks, and although jailed between 1964 and 1966, grabbed power in 1979.
    The Reagan administration cozied up to him after he attacked Iran; Donald Rumsfeld met with him twice and provided his regime with invaluable intelligence abetting his aggressive war on Iran in the ’80s, which took a million lives.

    Theres another Million Lives you can ADD to the Neo-Con Theosophist Wacko List. So not ONLY WAS OSAMA an Agent of the CIA [ Tim Osman] So was SADDAM.

    When are YOU stupid Asses Gonna Wake up to the Reality OF the Lyng Capitalist Death Machine?

    WAR IS PROFIT to these People, and YOU are but Human Batteries, your energy will be sucked out of you, in Watts, or work energy, or to fire a Weapon, at the Cheapest Cost possible so as to produce the Greatest Profit. Oil, Minerals, Water, Humans, Resources. Reagans and Bushies ‘Freedom Fighters’ turned terrorists are But Dupes/Agents of the CIA Communist Capitalist Agency


  19. one eye buck tooth [X^B says:

    Its time to Leave America to the Wackos, when they have destroyed themselves, as Rabid Dogs Will, the Good People may Return.

    Till then enjoy your Blood Cult Christian Country Of Hatred and Torture, Rendition and ‘Free Speech Zones’, Emminent Domain, Corruptiion Cronyism, and Greed. Legalized Poverty and Self Protectionist Factions.

    CYA Fools!


  20. Bruce Gorton says:

    You are at war with someone whose practical ability to take you on your own ground is limited via a huge stretch of frigging ocean right? So what does this guy want? To annoy the guys who share your continent and could serve as a conduit to future attacks! Brilliant! Or, not…


  21. one eye buck tooth [X^B says:

    Perpetual WAR plan “Victory”
    ———————————————————
    Feaver was the principal author of the Bush Administration’s “National Strategy for Victory in Iraq,” a 35-page public document released by the White House on Nov. 30, 2005, as President George W. Bush was addressing the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md. Feaver, whose Triangle Institute conducts public opinion polls on national security issues, argued that Americans could be snookered into accepting high rates of casualties and vast costs of war, for an indefinite period of time, so long as they were convinced that there was a plan for “victory.” No need to clue in the American people, or even the military brass, for that matter, on the fact that the goal is “neo-feudalism,” as he boasted in front of the Rohatyn-selected crowd at Middlebury.


  22. Final Warning says:

    Neo-Feudalism NOW that Sounds Like King Bushcompany,,

    Anyway keep Hoping for that “Victory” and keep sigining those “Supplemental Funds” aka[Bush Shadow Budget] for the “Victory” of Corporate America.

    And to think that Americas Sons Died for the Elites and the Mighty Dollar..
    So much for Intellectual Virtue.

    Oh How thy have Fallen! Can not you see the Devil Has cloaked himself? Were you NOT warned?


  23. banana says:

    ah, lou dobbs’ divide and conquer for Big Business’ benefit is working mighty fine, ain’t it?


  24. Tundra says:

    Savage claimed that the only way to combat the onslaught of illegal immigrants is through protest and asked his audience to “[b]urn a Mexican flag

    I agree there is a probem with illegal immigration but insulting not only the illegal Mexicans but the legal Mexicans in this country and throughout the world, isn’t the only way to combat it (And a pretty piss poor idea if you ask me).

    Hmmmm a seperate but related thought, how about legislation banning burning of any Flag in protest?


  25. Opie says:

    donaldleehackle, #8, give it a rest. First thing someone who lacks analytic skills does is say stupid shit like “Savage is an entertainer.” It’s another version of “I’m only joking,” which is what we hear whenever we hold Bush’s kiss-ass media talk show hosts accountable. So why don’t you straighten out the thousands of listeners who eat every kernel of garbage that Savage spouts that he’s only an entertainer and not the daily church sermon they believe him to be. I’m sure they’ll be happy to find out that they’re guinea pigs for astute listeners like you to make fun of.


  26. unbelievable says:

    Hmmmm a seperate but related thought, how about legislation banning burning of any Flag in protest?

    Comment by Tundra — April 1, 2006 @ 3:05 pm

    Violation of your first amendment rights. Because if you let someone tell you can’t do something, then you’ve given them the ability to one day require you to do it…

    Besides, it’s just pieces of fabric sewn into the shape of a flag. It’s not like burning, oh, lets’ see what have conservatives been into burning throughout history… oh, yeah – people at the stake, for instance.


  27. Tundra says:

    Besides, it’s just pieces of fabric sewn into the shape of a flag.
    OUCH, *Feels Unbelievable twist the knife into his back**
    If it was just pieces of fabric then Savage is essentially saying go burn clothing.

    oh, yeah – people at the stake, for instance.
    I’d hardly call them “people” :)

    (seriously though I am a druid myself)

    Haven’t we progressed past that point though and perhaps flags are the next progressive step?


  28. unbelievable says:

    OUCH, *Feels Unbelievable twist the knife into his back**
    If it was just pieces of fabric then Savage is essentially saying go burn clothing.

    Such drama… It’s why we shouldn’t be pledging allegiance to flags – makes them too sentimental – and instead be pledging it to humanity.

    I’d hardly call them “people” :) (seriously though I am a druid myself)

    A conservative Druid? Isn’t that an oxymoronic combination?

    Haven’t we progressed past that point though and perhaps flags are the next progressive step?

    Comment by Tundra — April 1, 2006 @ 3:38 pm

    Well, I would like to think so, but again, I value the First Amendment. And really, anyone who burns a flag is being juvenile, or is in serious pain. Either way, I can’t see punishing them any further.

    So, in your perfect little fascist world :) what would teh punishment be for flag burning?


  29. Tundra says:

    A conservative Druid? Isn’t that an oxymoronic combination?
    I never said I was a conservative, I am a Right Leaning Libertarian (Which of course I don’t seriously advocate banning burning of any flags, I was kinda curious what argument you would have and it is the same as mine, while a deplorable act it can’t be illegal)
    The country was founded on freedom of religion and separation of church and state. Mixing a religion and the elements necessary to run a government are a deadly combination, which has been proven time and time again to be far from fair and just.

    It’s why we shouldn’t be pledging allegiance to flags – makes them too sentimental
    Humans in general need something to rally behind. Rather it’s a flag, a bible, a dream of the world living in a hippy commune (Had to throw yours in for ya :), a sports team or a cause. It only makes sense for countries to have something for their citizens to feel pride in.

    So, in your perfect little fascist world :)
    Well, my perfect little facist world would have everyone pledging allegience to me. I haven’t worked all of the bugs out yet so it may be a little while :)

    what would teh punishment be for flag burning?
    Perhaps having to go out to dinner with you, I figure the alpha sprouts and canibus should mellow them out quick enough :)


  30. Tundra says:

    correction: alfalfa sprouts


  31. unbelievable says:

    I never said I was a conservative,

    Actions speak louder than words, you know… ;)

    I am a Right Leaning Libertarian (Which of course I don’t seriously advocate banning burning of any flags, I was kinda curious what argument you would have and it is the same as mine, while a deplorable act it can’t be illegal)

    I had a feeling you were playing Devil’s Advocate around here a bit. Well, you do it with respect, so it’s been fun. I get to the point now that just seeing Mighty Aphrodite’s name puts me on the defensive. Nice to have some respectful ‘trolls’ around here for a change :)

    The country was founded on freedom of religion and separation of church and state. Mixing a religion and the elements necessary to run a government are a deadly combination, which has been proven time and time again to be far from fair and just.

    No argument from me. I’m an Atheist when it comes to the Judeo-Christo-Islamo burning bush of misogynistic gods. Agnostic about something else that we do not fully understand – since well, that’s always possible. We know so little about our universe.

    So how’d you become a Druid? That’s not something you run across everyday.

    Humans in general need something to rally behind. Rather it’s a flag, a bible, a dream of the world living in a hippy commune (Had to throw yours in for ya :), a sports team or a cause. It only makes sense for countries to have something for their citizens to feel pride in.

    Sure, but a table cloth? I mean really – it’s the things that no one can take away, or burn, that we should rally around. Don’t you think?

    Well, my perfect little facist world would have everyone pledging allegience to me. I haven’t worked all of the bugs out yet so it may be a little while :)

    Ah, yes, the ultimate delusion of testosterone… :) Well, you know evolution will try anything once. I figure it’s a matter of a generation or two before we get an improved version that doesn’t wreck everything – or pee on it :).

    Perhaps having to go out to dinner with you, I figure the alpha sprouts and canibus should mellow them out quick enough :)

    Comment by Tundra — April 1, 2006 @ 5:06 pm

    I have two cats. The can’t drive to the store to get their own carnivorous repasts, so alfalfa sprouts are not required. And, the cannibus would be missing. If I don’t eat dead cow, I’ll hardly smoke something cultivated with its feces…

    Sorry to shatter your unkempt hippy chick delusion, but I bathe daily… and own a razor… and a hair brush. And, in fact, if IRI catches you talking to me, he might pitch a fit. He’s done so before. :)

    But by your sweeping generality, then I should assume you walk around in a burlap cloak, with teh hood up? ;)


  32. Neo-Cons are Neo-Feudalists says:

    Bush and Friends Hate Americas Soverignity
    no wonder the Constitution is just a Gawdamm piece of Paper
    to these “Lords” of Lunacy.

    Neoliberalism [neo-Cons] is widely used as a description of the revived form of economic liberalism [flip-flop] that became increasingly important in international economic policy discussions from the 1970s onwards.

    In its dominant international use, neoliberalism [neo-cons] refers to a political-economic philosophy that de-emphasizes or rejects government intervention in the domestic economy.[neo-cons] It focuses on free-market methods, fewer restrictions on business operations, and property rights. In foreign policy, neoliberalism favors the opening of foreign markets by political means, using economic pressure,[UN Sanctions IMF WTO GMO] diplomacy, and/or military intervention.[iraq war Afghan War] Opening of markets refers to free trade and an international division of labor. Neoliberalism generally favors multilateral [Fukuyama neo-con multi-multilateralism] political pressure through international organizations or treaty devices such as the WTO and World Bank. It promotes reducing the role of national governments to a minimum.[norquits Neo-Con] Neoliberalism favors laissez-faire over direct government intervention (such as Keynesianism), and measures success in overall economic gain.[corporate Profit for Americas Sons] To improve corporate efficiency, it strives to reject or mitigate labor policies such as minimum wage [Falwell Rushdoony Neo-cons] and collective bargaining rights.

    Sources familiar with the Middlebury conference say that the event capped an organizing drive for the “privatization of national security” that has been under way since the collapse of the Soviet Union. During the Presidency of William Clinton, Rohatyn, who served briefly as Ambassador to France, was the leading champion of the privatization and outsourcing of as many Pentagon functions as possible.

    In fact, from the outset, the “neo-feudal” scheme to privatize the U.S. military and knock down the last pillar of national sovereignty, has been associated with three names in particular: George Shultz, Felix Rohatyn, and Dick Cheney. Shultz and Rohatyn, sources close to the two men report, have been tight friends for a long time, perhaps dating back to their early 1970s collaboration on the Pinochet coup in Chile. [Neo-cons again]
    So the Neo-Cons want to destroy National Security and National Soverignity….Neo-Cons [Neo-Feudalists] hate America


  33. Neo-Cons are Neo-Feudalists says:

    George Shultz, Felix Rohatyn, and Dick Cheney. Shultz and Rohatyn

    THE ‘GMO’ 3?


  34. Neo-Cons are Neo-Feudalists says:

    Who Hates you because you are Free?
    Corporate America!!!

    In fact, from the outset, the “neo-feudal” scheme to privatize the U.S. military and knock down the last pillar of national sovereignty, has been associated with three names in particular: George Shultz, Felix Rohatyn, and Dick Cheney.


  35. Tundra says:

    I had a feeling you were playing Devil’s Advocate around here a bit.
    I like to know why someone believes in something, not just that they agree/disagree. Otherwise threads are all yes and no (Sort of like polls) Without discussion it gets boring.

    So how’d you become a Druid?
    Well, I guess by searching for answers to questions I don’t know the answer to. I figure if people can believe in a specific god creating everything in a week (then deciding not to make another appearance), it’s not so far fetched (And makes more sense to me) that the earth itself did it. While there is no one guiding force, it is nature itself doing it.
    Keep in mind I am a Vet and love this country and what it stands for (The separation part there).

    Sure, but a table cloth? I mean really – it’s the things that no one can take away, or burn, that we should rally around. Don’t you think?
    What is there that cannot be taken away besides ideals? since we will never have everyone agree to the same ideals or visions of what the world should be, there has to be some designation of what side you are on. Burning the other sides emblem etc, only shows that you are not willing to work with them and compromise. It demonstrates a hate for everything they stand for. It also is pretty much a declaration of war.

    Sorry to shatter your unkempt hippy chick delusion
    I guy can dream can’t he?

    Well, I am off to grab some grubbage, nice talking to you.


  36. Matthew J. Price says:

    That was beutiful #2. You hit the nail right on the head.


  37. unbelievable says:

    it’s not so far fetched (And makes more sense to me) that the earth itself did it.

    I agree. (You’re right – not as interesting as a discussion).

    What is there that cannot be taken away besides ideals?

    Integrity, honor, moraity, kindness, fraternity, etc.

    I guy can dream can’t he?

    Of furry women who don’t bathe? Whatever turns ou on.. :)

    Well, I am off to grab some grubbage, nice talking to you.

    Comment by Tundra — April 1, 2006 @ 6:06 pm

    All that talk of alfalfa made you hungry, didn’t it? ;)

    Ditto.


  38. Paul in LA says:

    Michael’s listeners in Longmont, Colorado have already brought their thuggery to bear on this important problem:

    Skyline High School Principal Tom Stumpf said American flags were brazenly waved in the faces of Hispanic students and in one case a Mexican flag was thrown into the face of another student.

    On the temporary ban on ALL flags at the high school, the principal shows the kind of weak reasoning common to liberal Americans:

    “”When it involves the American flag and its abuse in vilifying other people, we simply will not tolerate it,” Stumpf said. “They were using the symbol derisively as misguided patriotism.

    Shame on that principal for having the nerve to object to the use of our national symbol in the persecution of the innocent. Brownshirts, not Brown people. America MUST be saved from the persecution of tolerance.



  39. Paul in LA says:

    “”[b]urn a Jewish Synogogue for America, burn a Star of David for those who died that you should have a nationality and a sovereignty, go out in the street and show you’re a man, burn 10 Stars of David, if I could recommend it. Put one in the window upside down and tell them to go back where they came from!”

    Savaged added that, “If I were a man — and I’m not, I’m only a racist –I would organize a march this week where we would burn Stars of David in the street. Then I would like to see how our big-nosed brethren would react, our friends from the semite lands. Let’s see how they would react.” Savage also referred to the immigration problem as “an invasion by any other name,” in which “we, the people, are being displaced by the Jews.” – Michael Savage-Weiner, former Mexican


  40. WaltTheMan says:

    Anyone burning a flag should first be required to wrap themselves in it. Anything less is a display of cowardice.


  41. banana says:

    is it ok if i burn the italian flag on columbus day, in the spirit of crazy horse?


  42. squegeeboo says:

    #32 but I bathe daily… and own a razor… and a hair brush

    Ah, but do you use the razor? I’m sure most women in france also have razors, and we all know they don’t use them.

    Why can’t we just burn the (illegal)mexicans instead of the flags? Maybe we could even use them for power plants, and ween ourselves off of fosil fuels.


  43. unbelievable says:

    Ah, but do you use the razor? I’m sure most women in france also have razors, and we all know they don’t use them.

    Why ever would you buy something you don’t use??? Oh, that’s right – consummerism. I gave that religion up as well. Stopped watching commercials and the cravings for unnessary crap I would never use went away.

    Why can’t we just burn the (illegal)mexicans instead of the flags? Maybe we could even use them for power plants, and ween ourselves off of fosil fuels.

    Comment by squegeeboo — April 1, 2006 @ 8:07 pm

    You know the white man is on the decline… will be the minority about the time you get stuck in some old folks home… and then maybe you’ll get to be a fossil fuel yourself…


  44. Paul in LA says:

    Lovely, lovely. And welcome to all the members of the Thule Society.

    Remember: “racism, nationalism and imperialism.”

    The inferior races MUST NOT be allowed to bring their anti-shaving perversions across our borders.

    “And to the Americans I should like to shout: Remain hard! Remain hard! Have no mercy! Not even with me! Americans, your walls must remain secure against penetration. They must not have any secret little door in the rear which could be opened for single persons. because, surely, some day through this little door treason would creep in… Close your hearts and your ears to all those who from out there still beg for admission. Everything is at stake! You last little fortress of Americanism, remain strong and faithful! Away with this pestilential poor! Burn out this nest of wasps! Even though along with the unrighteous a hundred righteous ones are destroyed. What do they matter? What do we matter? What do I matter? No! Have no mercy! I beg of you.”

    – Arthur Trebitsch, after converting


  45. Paul in LA says:

    Oh, did I forget to mention that I replaced “Aryan” with “American” in Nazi Jew Trebitsch’s psychotic ramblings? For shame.

    Make sure, neo-Aryans, that you don’t have a secret little door in the rear.

    You know the one.


  46. Ron says:

    Is it ok to burn a Yankees’ pennant? How about Switzerland’s flag? burn it. How about the Jolly Roger? Is it ok to burn that one?

    Maybe if you just stomp on a flag and not burn it?

    That would be ok, maybe?

    I would never burn a US flag flying upside down though.

    burn the UN flag first, deny its authority by international treaty, abandon all UN missions, send everybody home to their respective countries. Let each country seek diplomatic relations with any other country that they choose.

    Get back to peaceful, civil commerce, goodwill among nations, and forget about all of this militant competition for the world’s resources by use of force.

    All the UN has done is create perpetual war.


  47. Paul in LA says:

    Ron, thanks for your SCAPEGOATING of the UN, which is the CURRENT REPOSITORY of the collective peaceful will — IN LAW — of a great many nations.

    The Genocide Convention EXISTS as an expression of world morality, VIA the UN. Countries, UN member countries WILL NOT commit genocide, and they WILL punish its commission.

    But for you, a law against murder isn’t necessary. It’s enough that everyone DO WHAT THEY WANT, screw laws and constitutions.

    We don’t live in the ‘Do what you want’ period of world history, the Age of the Dictators. As a direct act by two of the greatest Western leaders in history (FDR and Churchill), and the combined world recognition of the danger of nuclear war and proliferation, as well as the need for international standards of human rights, the UN was formed.

    Have some respect for the sepulcher of human remains that WWII created — and the international agency, however flawed by the ill will of some nations, that people cried out for in the face of it. WE MANIFESTED THAT GATHERED BODY OF LAWS. For a great many of us, the UN charter is probably our nation’s finest hour.

    Your attitude about the UN is anti-American.


  48. SiriusA says:

    Ack, what’s going to happen to Squegeeboo when, in a few years, he finds out his son-in-law — and grandkids — are Mexican??

    Lighten up now, before hatred steals the value of life from you, bozo.


  49. lpt says:

    ‘Hatred is the fuel that drives fascism, stupidity is the additive that can stop it in its tracks.


  50. John Konop says:

    He testified before congress that illegal immigration was a tool to drive wages down in 1979 . His brother Manuel ran the first Minuteman project. And MLK successor Robert Abernathy, Walter Mondale with the Chavez brothers demonstrated to block the boarders from illegal immigrants. Is Cesar Chavaz racist ?


  51. Grand Moff Texan says:

    Michael Weiner said what?

    Oh, that’s right: I don’t give a fuck.

    We dealt with this ignorant shit last week.

    The only reason the right is still bitching about this is that they have nothing else to say. The news is full of nothing but the costs of the failure of conservatism.
    .


  52. For Truth says:

    Repubs focus on the problems of the UN so they have an excuse to get rid of a body that they may have to answer to occaisionally.


  53. For Truth says:

    #48,

    Are we taking lessons from the UN? On perpetual war?


  54. Chivas Ghoat says:

    Here it is you fools – Mexican workers flow over the border because Mexico is full of corruption. The money in Mexico is held by a few. The only way to correct this situation is for Mexico to stand on its own two feet. Mexico has an abundance of resources, and yet they are wasted on the elite of that country.

    You talk about how Americans are blind to their country – Mexico’s government does little for the people except argue with the American to let their poor go to the US. Look for yourselves as to what Mexico does to those from Central and South American trying to cross their southern border.

    Look at the rights Americans have to buy property or get emergency health care is Mexico. They don’t exist.

    I love the Mexican, but hate the hypocrisy of the Mexican government. Wake up fools and sell the tequila.


  55. carlos gonzalez says:

    mexico is still gonna own this country so do what u want


  56. carlos gonzalez says:

    mexico is still gonna own this country so do what u want


  57. Jamie says:

    I’m going to find a Mexican flag to burn before they are sold out. ;)


  58. Dave Potts says:

    ILLEGAL ALIENS and their CORPORATE CHIEFTAIN ALLIES are a threat to low-wage latinos, black and white alike. Corporations love illegal immigration because it increases their bottom line, it subverts progressive attempts to create a LIVING WAGE and rights to health care, and it creates a society where (if unchecked) we will have two economic classes, the truly greedy, and the truly needy.

    ILLEGAL ALIENS are the life-blood of corporate control over the American low-wage worker and progressive activists and as such, MUST BE STOPPED. This includes DEPORTATIONS, Property confiscations from BOTH corporations and illegal aliens caught in the act of undermining America (and it’s poorest residents), strict border enforcement including physical barriers and fences and a return of Americans into the workforce by removing unnecessary Government regulations that force companies to hire ILLEGAL ALIENS.

    For instance: 1. COLLECTIVE WORK IS A GREAT SOCIAL BEHAVIORAL CHANGER.

    Prison inmates could handle agriculture work. We have almost 2 million prisoners in America as well as many millions more whose cases are reduced to probation or dropped due to lack of space. Truth be told, most inmates are non-violent drug offenders serving discriminatory sentences. If given the option of 50% time credits and $3-4 per hour to pick crops, most inmates would take it. It’s obvious why, if your serving 20 years for drug sales and can be guaranteed release in 10 plus leave prison with 10 years worth of wages, you can be back with your family with enough money to start your life over with. PUT PRISONERS and DIVERT SENTENCES FROM PRISON to the agricultural fields of America.

    2. INNER CITY TEENS NEED EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES so we need to allow them to work in restaurants, landscaping, and more. This would help impoverished inner-city homes.

    3. Guest workers should be hired ONLY AFTER ALL AMERICANS who can work, ARE WORKING. They should BE GUESTS ONLY, not SETTLERS, and they should be allowed from all over the world, including Africa, Asia, Russia and Eastern Europe, etc.

    4. WE”VE ALWAYS HAD IMMIGRATION QOUTAS. This ALSO applies to Mexicans and Latinos. They have MORE THAN REACHED their qouta. My people, the Irish we’re capped at 20 million or so immigrants, same with Italians, Jews, etc. Latino IMMIGRATION must end and new nations allowed to settle folks, including AFRICAN nations where poverty is far worse than Mexico.

    In conclusion, because of Mexico’s Govt. being behind this invasion of America, it is perfectly fine to BURN THE MEXICAN FLAG. It’s no different than burning the American flag over the war in Irag.


  59. Dave Potts says:

    Aye Carlos–

    There will be a war against Mexicans before that will happen. And Mexicans won’t win. Black, White, Asian and like-minded Latinos will easily decimate any attempt by La Raza Separatists to steal American land. Any Mexican who attempts to overthrow, attack. etc. America will be dealt with harshly and should expect execution.



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