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	<title>Comments on: Gen. Zinni: &#8216;American Media is Being Made a Scapegoat&#8217; For Iraq Failures</title>
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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; 8th General Calls For Rumsfeldâ€™s Resignation</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-519730</link>
		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; 8th General Calls For Rumsfeldâ€™s Resignation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Van Riper follows the calls of Generals Swannack, Newbold, Eaton, Zinni, Batiste, Riggs, and Clark. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Van Riper follows the calls of Generals Swannack, Newbold, Eaton, Zinni, Batiste, Riggs, and Clark. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=519730', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; Breaking: Another General Calls For Rumsfeld&#8217;s Resignation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; Breaking: Another General Calls For Rumsfeld&#8217;s Resignation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Actually, this may be the sixth general. Generals Newbold, Eaton, Zinni, and Batiste have gained prominent attention in calling for Rumsfeld&#8217;s resignation. But another less-noticed general, Ret. Army Gen. John Riggs, told the Washington Post recently:  [Riggs] believes that his peer group is &#8220;a pretty closemouthed bunch&#8221; but that, even so, his sense is &#8220;everyone pretty much thinks Rumsfeld and the bunch around him should be cleared out.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Actually, this may be the sixth general. Generals Newbold, Eaton, Zinni, and Batiste have gained prominent attention in calling for Rumsfeld&#8217;s resignation. But another less-noticed general, Ret. Army Gen. John Riggs, told the Washington Post recently:  [Riggs] believes that his peer group is &#8220;a pretty closemouthed bunch&#8221; but that, even so, his sense is &#8220;everyone pretty much thinks Rumsfeld and the bunch around him should be cleared out.&#8221; [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=506470', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-496300</link>
		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#106 I-WRONG-I,
Your comment only proves that Benedict Arnold had military expertise.  You have provided absolutely no information or proof that Zinni sold out to some enemy, and I&#039;m afraid no one here except some of your fellow reichwing trolls believe that criticism of an administration ruled by chickenhawks with generally no military experience is treasonous.  After all, Thomas Jefferson, a man much smarter and nobler than you, said, &quot;Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.&quot;  
In any case, isn&#039;t it about time that you put your fat ass where your big mouth is and join the military?  And if, you&#039;re deemed too old, how about your over-20 children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#106 I-WRONG-I,<br />
Your comment only proves that Benedict Arnold had military expertise.  You have provided absolutely no information or proof that Zinni sold out to some enemy, and I&#8217;m afraid no one here except some of your fellow reichwing trolls believe that criticism of an administration ruled by chickenhawks with generally no military experience is treasonous.  After all, Thomas Jefferson, a man much smarter and nobler than you, said, &#8220;Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.&#8221;<br />
In any case, isn&#8217;t it about time that you put your fat ass where your big mouth is and join the military?  And if, you&#8217;re deemed too old, how about your over-20 children?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=496300', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-496002</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 02:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, Letâ€™s see. Zinni was in charge of Central Command for three years. Sounds like someone undeniably better qualified than, well, certainly everyone here, to have an opinion on the matter.

IRI, put the bong down. 

Comment by Clemsy

Benedict Arnold was a graduate of West Point and a hero in the French and Indian wars. Anything else you&#039;d like to discuss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, Letâ€™s see. Zinni was in charge of Central Command for three years. Sounds like someone undeniably better qualified than, well, certainly everyone here, to have an opinion on the matter.</p>
<p>IRI, put the bong down. </p>
<p>Comment by Clemsy</p>
<p>Benedict Arnold was a graduate of West Point and a hero in the French and Indian wars. Anything else you&#8217;d like to discuss?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=496002', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clemsy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-495055</link>
		<dc:creator>Clemsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 09:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, Let&#039;s see. Zinni was in charge of Central Command for three years.  Sounds like someone undeniably better qualified than, well,  certainly everyone here, to have an opinion on the matter.

IRI, put the bong down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, Let&#8217;s see. Zinni was in charge of Central Command for three years.  Sounds like someone undeniably better qualified than, well,  certainly everyone here, to have an opinion on the matter.</p>
<p>IRI, put the bong down.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=495055', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-495045</link>
		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zinni must be French or maybe Spanish. Iâ€™m glad heâ€™s on your side, 

Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€”


Of course, it&#039;s only to be expected that our resident armchair warrior/chickenhawk , I-WRONG-I, would attack Zinni or any other person with bonafide military experience who criticizes his fellow chickenhawks AWOL-even from the &quot;champagne unit of the National Guard Dumbya and 5-deferment Dickhead.
Incidentally, it&#039;s easy enough to find out that Zinni is of Italian descent; the name doesn&#039;t sound at all French to me.  And in what is supposed to be a melting pot nation, such ethnic/national background shouldn&#039;t mean of anything in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zinni must be French or maybe Spanish. Iâ€™m glad heâ€™s on your side, </p>
<p>Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€”</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s only to be expected that our resident armchair warrior/chickenhawk , I-WRONG-I, would attack Zinni or any other person with bonafide military experience who criticizes his fellow chickenhawks AWOL-even from the &#8220;champagne unit of the National Guard Dumbya and 5-deferment Dickhead.<br />
Incidentally, it&#8217;s easy enough to find out that Zinni is of Italian descent; the name doesn&#8217;t sound at all French to me.  And in what is supposed to be a melting pot nation, such ethnic/national background shouldn&#8217;t mean of anything in the first place.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=495045', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: GURU</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-495035</link>
		<dc:creator>GURU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 06:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I-R-I is a greaser like greasy Tom Delay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I-R-I is a greaser like greasy Tom Delay.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=495035', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: GoToHellReichWingers</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494941</link>
		<dc:creator>GoToHellReichWingers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Didnâ€™t click my link did you IRI. Course not. Your just here to get everyone to take you seriously and actually respond to you.

Donâ€™t argue with fools folks. 

Comment by Clemsy

I took a look,itâ€™s his army record, so what? Itâ€™s full of the usual stops for politicians making they way up the ranks, nothing special. This did stand out thoughâ€¦

â€œFrom 1994 to 1996, he served as the Commanding General, I Marine Expeditionary Force. During early 1995, General Zinni served as Commander of the Combined Task Force for Operation UNITED SHIELD, protecting the withdrawal of U.N. forces from Somalia. â€

He commanded Clintonâ€™s hasty and bloody retreat from Somalia. I bet heâ€™s real proud of that. Zinni must be French or maybe Spanish. Iâ€™m glad heâ€™s on your side, I wouldnâ€™t want him watching my back. 

Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€” April 3, 2006 @ 9:28 am &lt;/em&gt;


&lt;strong&gt;Hey I-REICH-I, get the hell out of our country you racist traitorous dirtbag. You have no loyality to anything even remotely American. You prefer to support a pack of lying, murderous, thieves i.e. George Bush and his cronies. You were born in the wrong day and age. Stalin, Hitler, and Mao would have appreciated your brand of loyalty.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Didnâ€™t click my link did you IRI. Course not. Your just here to get everyone to take you seriously and actually respond to you.</p>
<p>Donâ€™t argue with fools folks. </p>
<p>Comment by Clemsy</p>
<p>I took a look,itâ€™s his army record, so what? Itâ€™s full of the usual stops for politicians making they way up the ranks, nothing special. This did stand out thoughâ€¦</p>
<p>â€œFrom 1994 to 1996, he served as the Commanding General, I Marine Expeditionary Force. During early 1995, General Zinni served as Commander of the Combined Task Force for Operation UNITED SHIELD, protecting the withdrawal of U.N. forces from Somalia. â€</p>
<p>He commanded Clintonâ€™s hasty and bloody retreat from Somalia. I bet heâ€™s real proud of that. Zinni must be French or maybe Spanish. Iâ€™m glad heâ€™s on your side, I wouldnâ€™t want him watching my back. </p>
<p>Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€” April 3, 2006 @ 9:28 am </em></p>
<p><strong>Hey I-REICH-I, get the hell out of our country you racist traitorous dirtbag. You have no loyality to anything even remotely American. You prefer to support a pack of lying, murderous, thieves i.e. George Bush and his cronies. You were born in the wrong day and age. Stalin, Hitler, and Mao would have appreciated your brand of loyalty.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494941', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: L S H</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494801</link>
		<dc:creator>L S H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, us lefties are called &quot; tree hugging pacifists &quot; by certain memebers of the right for having problems with either the march to war or the execution of the war or the war itself. 

Then this I-Right-I nut says the left frequently resorts to &quot;mindless violence.&quot;

It is almost like he is claiming the existence of left leaning skin heads.

Wow. What Bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, us lefties are called &#8221; tree hugging pacifists &#8221; by certain memebers of the right for having problems with either the march to war or the execution of the war or the war itself. </p>
<p>Then this I-Right-I nut says the left frequently resorts to &#8220;mindless violence.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is almost like he is claiming the existence of left leaning skin heads.</p>
<p>Wow. What Bullshit.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494801', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Killer Whale</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494789</link>
		<dc:creator>Killer Whale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: #94


 Wrong-Always-Wrong



I know my size 12 McRaes will demolish your punk ass before your Cinderella slippers even leave the ground.



Anyway, you never responded to my invitation to join the Screaming Eagles.


Put your life where your mouth is. 

Do you need me to provide the phone number for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #94</p>
<p> Wrong-Always-Wrong</p>
<p>I know my size 12 McRaes will demolish your punk ass before your Cinderella slippers even leave the ground.</p>
<p>Anyway, you never responded to my invitation to join the Screaming Eagles.</p>
<p>Put your life where your mouth is. </p>
<p>Do you need me to provide the phone number for you?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494789', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ho Chi Minh</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494784</link>
		<dc:creator>Ho Chi Minh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, I keep on calling on IRI to enlist, but he refuses.  This proves that he&#039;s just another cowardly chickenhawk who doesn&#039;t have the balls to put his body where his mouth(asshole?)is.  OK tough guy, since you are too much of a craven coward to enlist, go into a VFW and tell THEM they&#039;re treasonous fucktards if they think we should get out of Iraq.  They will tear you a new asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, I keep on calling on IRI to enlist, but he refuses.  This proves that he&#8217;s just another cowardly chickenhawk who doesn&#8217;t have the balls to put his body where his mouth(asshole?)is.  OK tough guy, since you are too much of a craven coward to enlist, go into a VFW and tell THEM they&#8217;re treasonous fucktards if they think we should get out of Iraq.  They will tear you a new asshole.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494784', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494764</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IRI runs the typical rant of the person who enjoys the security of being out of range. One of the myriad assholes you meet who were disappointed they didn&#039;t get a chance to fight because a) their number wasn&#039;t called, b) their deferments were all approved, or c) they were in college or had other priorities that kept them, AND STILL PREVENT THEM from enlisting and acting like the patriots they want everyone to think they are.

You have the freakin&#039; nerve to criticize a Marine Corps general because he doesn&#039;t agree with your little tin dictator? Where the fuck have you ever fought and what great thing have you done for your country? Nothing except playback the GOP talking points and slander a good soldier.

BTW, when we&#039;re talking about all the money Saddam threw around, you might want to check the connections between the BUSH CRIME FAMILY and Saddam. Poppy took out Noriega to keep him quiet about old Wimpy&#039;s complicity in Iran-contra drug deals, Dubya got rid of Saddam, and allowed looters to destroy records, to ensure his family&#039;s connections to Saddam, which are more extensive than Saddam&#039;s connections to Osama bin Laden, never see the light of day.

The only meaning national security has for these people is keeping secrets about what they are up to so the nation as a whole doesn&#039;t lynch them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IRI runs the typical rant of the person who enjoys the security of being out of range. One of the myriad assholes you meet who were disappointed they didn&#8217;t get a chance to fight because a) their number wasn&#8217;t called, b) their deferments were all approved, or c) they were in college or had other priorities that kept them, AND STILL PREVENT THEM from enlisting and acting like the patriots they want everyone to think they are.</p>
<p>You have the freakin&#8217; nerve to criticize a Marine Corps general because he doesn&#8217;t agree with your little tin dictator? Where the fuck have you ever fought and what great thing have you done for your country? Nothing except playback the GOP talking points and slander a good soldier.</p>
<p>BTW, when we&#8217;re talking about all the money Saddam threw around, you might want to check the connections between the BUSH CRIME FAMILY and Saddam. Poppy took out Noriega to keep him quiet about old Wimpy&#8217;s complicity in Iran-contra drug deals, Dubya got rid of Saddam, and allowed looters to destroy records, to ensure his family&#8217;s connections to Saddam, which are more extensive than Saddam&#8217;s connections to Osama bin Laden, never see the light of day.</p>
<p>The only meaning national security has for these people is keeping secrets about what they are up to so the nation as a whole doesn&#8217;t lynch them.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494764', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElectricBassPlayer</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494755</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectricBassPlayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel so sorry for you.

You are so lost.

Why do you even come here?  You aren&#039;t going to change anyone&#039;s mind.  Your arguments are usually irrational, often factually incorrect, and if anything just prove the dearth of your character and dented integrity over and over.

Such small people, you trolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel so sorry for you.</p>
<p>You are so lost.</p>
<p>Why do you even come here?  You aren&#8217;t going to change anyone&#8217;s mind.  Your arguments are usually irrational, often factually incorrect, and if anything just prove the dearth of your character and dented integrity over and over.</p>
<p>Such small people, you trolls.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494755', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494730</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A real Commander in Chief would have done the proper thing and - at a minimum - respected Schwarzkopfâ€™s insight and reigned Rumsfeld in, or more optimally - kicked Rumsfeld to the curb.

Comment by Killer Whale 

A real President and Fearless Leader of our armed forces listens to every credible source and makes a decision. You insist that he didn&#039;t give Norman&#039;s opinions their proper weight and do what the Filthy Left has always wanted to do about Saddam, Iraq and the Middle East...which is nothing. Storm&#039;n Norman may be quite a commander himself, a hell of a warrior but that doesn&#039;t make him the last word on the War in Iraq or a capable tactical in Realpolitik.  

Like Zinni, Norman was wrong in 2003 to suggest that we should wait for the &quot;allies&quot; (who were stabbing us in the back at the time) to form a coalition. Basically Norm and Zinni were quite prepared to let Germany, France, Russia and Red China dictate our foreign policy and military strategy. It never crossed his mind that they would put their own economic considerations ahead of international security. My guess is Norman would not say the same things now that he did in 2003 but as we can see even with the benefit of hindsight Zinni would. Zinni the ninny. Zinni the jew hating left wing fucktstick. Zinni the would be running mate for the failed presidential bid of John Kerry, another left wing fuctard and traitor to his country. 

I repeat, the article you quote is from 2003 and a lot has happened in the past three years to prove their insight wrong and Bush &amp; Co right. I&#039;d say Bush was correct in listening to his own advisors and not retired army generals who are on the liberal cocktail party circuit or looking for campaign contributions. 

By the way, it&#039;s left wing tumblefucks like you that use the methods of mindless violence and shun any real attempts of reasoned argument in favor os shouting down your opponents., not I. Neither do I throw beer bottles, even at losers but,  I would like to put my size 12 ClueBoot upside your ass for suggesting such a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A real Commander in Chief would have done the proper thing and &#8211; at a minimum &#8211; respected Schwarzkopfâ€™s insight and reigned Rumsfeld in, or more optimally &#8211; kicked Rumsfeld to the curb.</p>
<p>Comment by Killer Whale </p>
<p>A real President and Fearless Leader of our armed forces listens to every credible source and makes a decision. You insist that he didn&#8217;t give Norman&#8217;s opinions their proper weight and do what the Filthy Left has always wanted to do about Saddam, Iraq and the Middle East&#8230;which is nothing. Storm&#8217;n Norman may be quite a commander himself, a hell of a warrior but that doesn&#8217;t make him the last word on the War in Iraq or a capable tactical in Realpolitik.  </p>
<p>Like Zinni, Norman was wrong in 2003 to suggest that we should wait for the &#8220;allies&#8221; (who were stabbing us in the back at the time) to form a coalition. Basically Norm and Zinni were quite prepared to let Germany, France, Russia and Red China dictate our foreign policy and military strategy. It never crossed his mind that they would put their own economic considerations ahead of international security. My guess is Norman would not say the same things now that he did in 2003 but as we can see even with the benefit of hindsight Zinni would. Zinni the ninny. Zinni the jew hating left wing fucktstick. Zinni the would be running mate for the failed presidential bid of John Kerry, another left wing fuctard and traitor to his country. </p>
<p>I repeat, the article you quote is from 2003 and a lot has happened in the past three years to prove their insight wrong and Bush &amp; Co right. I&#8217;d say Bush was correct in listening to his own advisors and not retired army generals who are on the liberal cocktail party circuit or looking for campaign contributions. </p>
<p>By the way, it&#8217;s left wing tumblefucks like you that use the methods of mindless violence and shun any real attempts of reasoned argument in favor os shouting down your opponents., not I. Neither do I throw beer bottles, even at losers but,  I would like to put my size 12 ClueBoot upside your ass for suggesting such a thing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494730', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494566</link>
		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 18:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#92, 

he can&#039;t answer anything.  he&#039;ll come back with some kindergarten tantrum throwing comment.  he thinks he knows but has no idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#92, </p>
<p>he can&#8217;t answer anything.  he&#8217;ll come back with some kindergarten tantrum throwing comment.  he thinks he knows but has no idea.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494566', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Killer Whale</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494341</link>
		<dc:creator>Killer Whale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: #30 and #89



I-Right_I  


First, you are hereby renamed &quot;Wrong-Always-Wrong&quot; 


Second, answer this question - is General Norman Schwarzkopf a &quot;traitor?&quot;


In addition to the post mention in #77 - you should also read the article &quot;Desert Caution&quot; ( 1/28/2003 ) www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52450-2003Jan27

I will provide you with some excerpts. First, Schwarzkopf is described as a loyal Republican. &quot; He hunts with the first President Bush. He campaigned for the second ... &quot;


However, regarding Rumsfeld ... &quot;Rumsfeld, by contrast, worries him. &#039; It&#039;s scary, okay? &#039; he says. &quot; Let&#039;s face it: There are guys at the Pentagon who have been involved in operational planning for their entire lives, okay? ... And for this wisdom, acquired during many operations, wars, schools, for that just to be ignored and in its place have somebody who doesn&#039;t have any of that training is of concern.&#039; &quot;


Schwarzkopf said this in early 2003. Essentailly the same thing Zinni is saying now. So is Schwarzkopf a &quot;traitor&quot; too?


Question #3 - You have a respected and battle tested general bluntly stating in this article that Rumsfeld is &quot; overly enamored of air power and high technology and insufficiently attentive to the brutal difficulties of ground combat. &quot; 

Why do you continue to support G.W. Bush  when he clearly ignored crystal clear, spot on advice from a respected general who is also a loyal member of his own party? 

A real Commander in Chief would have done the proper thing and - at a minimum - respected Schwarzkopf&#039;s insight and reigned Rumsfeld in, or more optimally - kicked Rumsfeld to the curb.


&quot;Wrong-Always-Wrong,&quot; we know that deep down inside you really don&#039;t care about any of this stuff. You&#039;re the type of guy who likes throwing a beer bottle into a crowd of people before dashing to your car and speeding away. 


But if I am wrong about what I just said - put your life where your mouth is. The 501st Special Troops Battalion, 101st Airborne Division recently lost a man. Contact the recruitment office in Pikeville, KY and tell them that you want to take that man&#039;s place. I look forward to you proving Generals Zinni and Schwarzkopf wrong about Iraq all by yourself.

Good Luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: #30 and #89</p>
<p>I-Right_I  </p>
<p>First, you are hereby renamed &#8220;Wrong-Always-Wrong&#8221; </p>
<p>Second, answer this question &#8211; is General Norman Schwarzkopf a &#8220;traitor?&#8221;</p>
<p>In addition to the post mention in #77 &#8211; you should also read the article &#8220;Desert Caution&#8221; ( 1/28/2003 ) <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52450-2003Jan27" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52450-2003Jan27</a></p>
<p>I will provide you with some excerpts. First, Schwarzkopf is described as a loyal Republican. &#8221; He hunts with the first President Bush. He campaigned for the second &#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>However, regarding Rumsfeld &#8230; &#8220;Rumsfeld, by contrast, worries him. &#8216; It&#8217;s scary, okay? &#8216; he says. &#8221; Let&#8217;s face it: There are guys at the Pentagon who have been involved in operational planning for their entire lives, okay? &#8230; And for this wisdom, acquired during many operations, wars, schools, for that just to be ignored and in its place have somebody who doesn&#8217;t have any of that training is of concern.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>Schwarzkopf said this in early 2003. Essentailly the same thing Zinni is saying now. So is Schwarzkopf a &#8220;traitor&#8221; too?</p>
<p>Question #3 &#8211; You have a respected and battle tested general bluntly stating in this article that Rumsfeld is &#8221; overly enamored of air power and high technology and insufficiently attentive to the brutal difficulties of ground combat. &#8221; </p>
<p>Why do you continue to support G.W. Bush  when he clearly ignored crystal clear, spot on advice from a respected general who is also a loyal member of his own party? </p>
<p>A real Commander in Chief would have done the proper thing and &#8211; at a minimum &#8211; respected Schwarzkopf&#8217;s insight and reigned Rumsfeld in, or more optimally &#8211; kicked Rumsfeld to the curb.</p>
<p>&#8220;Wrong-Always-Wrong,&#8221; we know that deep down inside you really don&#8217;t care about any of this stuff. You&#8217;re the type of guy who likes throwing a beer bottle into a crowd of people before dashing to your car and speeding away. </p>
<p>But if I am wrong about what I just said &#8211; put your life where your mouth is. The 501st Special Troops Battalion, 101st Airborne Division recently lost a man. Contact the recruitment office in Pikeville, KY and tell them that you want to take that man&#8217;s place. I look forward to you proving Generals Zinni and Schwarzkopf wrong about Iraq all by yourself.</p>
<p>Good Luck.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494341', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElectricBassPlayer</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494320</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectricBassPlayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that I-Right-I brings up Somalia.

There was only the noblest of intentions:  To stop a famine which had killed hundreds of thousands of people, and to try to help tens of thousands who were in danger of dying.  There was no material or strategic gain in it at all for the US.

You could say it was the Christian thing to do.

And that&#039;s why the Right wingers hate it.  It sticks in their craw because inside they only feel pettiness, vindicitiveness, anger and hatred.  They are selfish and grasping.  They are only Christians in the most perverted sense.

They grudgingly went along with Bush and then when Clinton had to extricate us from the mess, they gleefully used it to attack him (and continue to do so) and scream against the dangers of nation-building.  All of which they conveniently forgot -- no, they wilfully ignored it -- in the runup to the illegal war in Iraq.

You trolls disgust me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that I-Right-I brings up Somalia.</p>
<p>There was only the noblest of intentions:  To stop a famine which had killed hundreds of thousands of people, and to try to help tens of thousands who were in danger of dying.  There was no material or strategic gain in it at all for the US.</p>
<p>You could say it was the Christian thing to do.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why the Right wingers hate it.  It sticks in their craw because inside they only feel pettiness, vindicitiveness, anger and hatred.  They are selfish and grasping.  They are only Christians in the most perverted sense.</p>
<p>They grudgingly went along with Bush and then when Clinton had to extricate us from the mess, they gleefully used it to attack him (and continue to do so) and scream against the dangers of nation-building.  All of which they conveniently forgot &#8212; no, they wilfully ignored it &#8212; in the runup to the illegal war in Iraq.</p>
<p>You trolls disgust me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494320', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Texas Democrat</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494289</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Texas Democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So in other words, Bill Oâ€™Reilly, gossip collumnist, went from selling lies about movie stars to selling lies for the ReichWingPoliticians after they properly educated him in ReichWingPropaganda. So you honestly think this glorified gossip collumnist, Bill Oâ€™Reilly, would ride into Iraq on his ReichWing white horse with guns blazing?

Wanna buy a bridge?

Comment by ExposingReichWingers â€” April 3, 2006 @ 7:15 am&quot;

Hmmm, sarcasm, sense of humor, oh never mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So in other words, Bill Oâ€™Reilly, gossip collumnist, went from selling lies about movie stars to selling lies for the ReichWingPoliticians after they properly educated him in ReichWingPropaganda. So you honestly think this glorified gossip collumnist, Bill Oâ€™Reilly, would ride into Iraq on his ReichWing white horse with guns blazing?</p>
<p>Wanna buy a bridge?</p>
<p>Comment by ExposingReichWingers â€” April 3, 2006 @ 7:15 am&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm, sarcasm, sense of humor, oh never mind!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494289', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clif</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494280</link>
		<dc:creator>Clif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldnâ€™t want him watching my back.

Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€” April 3, 2006 @ 9:28 am 

You mean under your bed with you don&#039;t ya boy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldnâ€™t want him watching my back.</p>
<p>Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€” April 3, 2006 @ 9:28 am </p>
<p>You mean under your bed with you don&#8217;t ya boy<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494280', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/02/zinni-media/comment-page-2/#comment-494252</link>
		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What I found disconcerting was...

...taht knowing all he knows about Bushiva and L&#039;il Dick&#039;s cherry picking of intelligence and lies to go to war...

...Zinni STILL wouldn&#039;t say that Bushiva and L&#039;il Dick should resign (be held accountable)...&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What I found disconcerting was&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;taht knowing all he knows about Bushiva and L&#8217;il Dick&#8217;s cherry picking of intelligence and lies to go to war&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;Zinni STILL wouldn&#8217;t say that Bushiva and L&#8217;il Dick should resign (be held accountable)&#8230;</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=494252', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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