Breaking: Homeland Security official arrested.
By on Apr 4th, 2006 at 10:15 pm
Breaking: Homeland Security official arrested.
Brian J. Doyle, DHS Deputy Press Secretary, has been “charged with trying to ’seduce’ a 14-year-old…girl over the Internet.”
UPDATE: Further details here: “On many occasions, Doyle instructed the victim, whom he believed to be a 14-year-old girl, to perform a sexual act while thinking of him, and described explicit and perverse sexual acts he wished to have with her, in addition to sending her numerous obscene .mpg files (digital movies). … He attempted to seduce the girl during their online chats, encouraging her to purchase a web cam so that she could send graphic images of herself to him.”
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More Republican family values from this administration? Can’t wait to learn more about Mr. Doyle. I’m sure he was well vetted by this administration. Heckofajob Bushie.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:23 pmMakes one feel very safe in bushies america.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:23 pmAmerica’s finest are keeping us protected.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:29 pmWatching CNN, an investigator on the case said Doyle believed he was speaking with a 14-year old girl whom was actually an undercover detective. He introduced himself by his job title. Incompetence all around in the Bush administration! He faces 23 counts.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:39 pmDHS Press Secretary Deputy Arrested for Soliciting a Child Online (Updated)…
MSNBC is reporting that Homeland Security Deputy Press Secretary Brian Doyle arrested for soliciting a child online.
Check back as this story develops.
Updated 7:05pm This story comes on the heels of Congressional testimony of a teen that described …
April 4th, 2006 at 10:40 pmAt least Monica was willing and not a minor. Now how will Rush, Bill, Hannity and that skinny blonde lunatic talk their way around this one?
April 4th, 2006 at 10:43 pmWonder how the Fax machines are gonna spin this one?
Hmm.
Lemme take a stab, It was a Democrat Setup, a vast left wing conspiracy, and I was taken in by promises, and they had me on a videotape, and they forced me, just like that journalist!, to seduce that girl as a TEST of the Homeland Security System.
It was only a “Test” perversion, not a real perversion as say those Liberal Hollywood Wordcrafters trialerpark trash jerry springer, welfare recipients, LIBERALS FAULT!!
Yes Jerry Springer Effected me thru his words of adultery, he is SATAN!! It was HE!! I SHALL be REBORN [wha? again?]
Satire of course =)
April 4th, 2006 at 10:48 pmI saw it on that primetime news show, Dateline.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:49 pm#7 Rush will call her a ho, Hannity will say that the liberal media with all it’s sex acts on TV caused it, and that skinny Lunatic Blonde Bimbo will say it’s Clintons fault…Hecka of job there chernoff
April 4th, 2006 at 10:50 pmCan I take the duct tape off my windows now?
OT – http://www.sirnosir.com/
April 4th, 2006 at 10:51 pmJust another cop getting busted. I already said I think there is a percentage of our finest who have criminal minds.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:51 pmSick.
Watch them claim he was a democrat:) You know they tried to be inclusive and what’d they get? Demofascist child molestors.
Seriously, no party has a hold on personal morality. We all fail, but these types repress so much of their sexuality – or are naturally child molestors – that they end up letting it out.
And his office phone number? DHS numbers can be monitored. It’s also a use of federal resources for solicitation of a minor – he probably used his work computer as well.
BTW, what exactly is a deputy press secretary? They are pretty much the guys that hand out the propaganda and do feelers before the press secretary does his gig, right? It’s a total patronage job, correct?
April 4th, 2006 at 10:53 pmIt wasn’t a real girl, it was a fake setting him up. Not political, just the normal catching of these guys, just happened to snare this slightly larger fish.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:54 pmThe repubs will say #1 he’s a democrat in disguise (and a child molestor) and/or #2 these sorts of stings are entrapments.
Actually they’ll say nothing.
This would be a GREAT AD. Picture this guy in front of a DHS seal with the background voice talking about his perversions and pictures of little girls and boys on the screen. Then back to him – ‘Is this how the republicans protect americans”
I think this a perfectly good ad material along with including the serial shoplifter. It’s two sick people, this one to a much greater degree. Generic repub bashing is more fun though for midterms.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:56 pm#14
You are assuming he did not use his work computer. Investigators will focus on people who’s IPs resolve to DHS/fbi/mil/etc. They do like getting big guys.
And getting such an address wouldn’t be hard.
Especially after he gave his office phone number. The officer knew right after that he was DHS.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:58 pmWhat a surprise that the people who claim a lock on virtue and family values have another pervert in their midst.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:01 pmWe are all sinners, but the party of “morality” was compelled to impeach a president for sexual indiscretion between consenting adults, and exalted itself, the righteous GOP members, above the rest of us. I think Jesus admonished something to the effect of removing the log from your own eye before you go about picking out the mote in your brother’s.
It is so fitting that their party members go down in flames one by one, but can they speed it up a bit?
Aren’t you socialists, sorry, I mean “progressives” against using one person to judge the whole bunch?
Oh by the way, this guy is a life long non-partisan government worker, which means, gasssp, he worked under Clinton!
April 4th, 2006 at 11:03 pm#18
Sorry, progressives is misleading. I’m much more of a libertarian – I don’t prescribe to thinkprogress’ economic insights.
There is a variety of opinion tolerated here – unlike on the freeper boards.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:06 pmLet his buddy know what you think of his friends behavior:
April 4th, 2006 at 11:08 pmContact: Garrison Courtney or Brian Doyle, 202-282-8010
Freaking sick. Really. I get no pleasure out of this, but yet again we were right. All republicans are like this. Sick nut jobs.
Bathrooms
April 4th, 2006 at 11:10 pmRockets
and do feelers before the press secretary does his gig, right? It’s a total patronage job, correct?
EEEEKKK!!
April 4th, 2006 at 11:19 pmthats a scary thought.
No wonder they don’t have time to secure our ports and airports.
Well, at least my daughter feels safer. She’s 16 is considers herself too old for him.
I guess this means Bush will give him a Presidential Medal of Freedom for this. That is, when he’s actually free. (Bah-dum-PANG!)
I gotta million of ‘em, folks. I’ll be here all week.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:19 pm#22
I would prefer to see a statistical study honestly. Even so, I would imagine conservative republicans would be more likely to be able to ‘hide’ family acts which would distort the image.
I will not, however, go that far. It offends people we should be getting either to not vote or vote for democrats. Labelling republicans as more likely to be perverts gets them in a ‘wagon’ mode.
Attacking isolated incidents where the predator served at the pleasure of the president is worthy of an attack ad though tied with our friendly target shoplifter.
If he is a career servant, it doesn’t matter. He’s the #4 in the press office and he works for DHS at the pleasure of the secretary and the president. He’s a security concern and shows that the guy putting out propaganda is suspect.
Look at alot of his statements out on google. He’s a big time spokesman. You don’t get given a leash with out some political authorization.
Also, no note on what he is/was.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:20 pmAt the risk of sounding like a naysayer, I think that this illness is just something that some humans suffer from – not necessarily Democrats or Republicans.
The problem with coming down on this guy like a ton of bricks and claiming that it’s indicative of Republicans in general makes us look like a bunch of reactionary jerks. Personally, I don’t know if he’s a Republican or a Democrat, or if he claims family values or not, hell, he could be a Satanist for all I know. It’s not relevant – this is an appropriate sting on an individual, and there are folks on both sides of the ideological aisle who do this kind of thing (and are appropriately caught & charged), but to claim it’s indicative of a set of people based on their political affiliation just makes it look like we can’t tell the difference between individual perversion and chronic corruption.
One of those issues is endemic to that party. The other is not.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:21 pmRyan:
…and your point is…?
April 4th, 2006 at 11:21 pmLemme see the “Terrorist” reporter was being “seduced”. And Here we have a An Official of the Government “Seducing” a young Girl.
In Republican World this guy is now a Terrorist and needs to be hauled off to Guantanamo and never seen from again…
April 4th, 2006 at 11:24 pmI wonder if Rummy Will Rendition him?
April 4th, 2006 at 11:25 pmAnd the hits just keep on coming.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:26 pmI will not, however, go that far. It offends people we should be getting either to not vote or vote for democrats. Labelling republicans as more likely to be perverts gets them in a ‘wagon’ mode.
Naw, Neo-Cons are Republican OFFICIALS, their are not the Regular peaceful Churchgoing Conservatives Public.
Politicians have always been Deceitful, this Bag of Worms, the Republican Neo-Cons takes the Cake however for new levels of audacity and corruption. As a Group the Neo-Cons, and this is Undeniable, are really really BAD fiscal Neo-Con Conservatives, it is they who have tainted the “Conservative” name as Clinton stained that sweater. Clinton Was a Baptist as Well, and I can tell you YOU DON”T wanna mix certian groups of Baptists, their will be Fireworks. =)
Anyway, the Neo-Cons have shot themselves in the foot again.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:32 pmJurasicpork, do you really not get it? Really?
April 4th, 2006 at 11:33 pmAwe come on, he just wanted to test out the Lolita bomb proof panty program.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:33 pmPeople who claim ‘moral virtue’ and ‘righteousness’, usually have the most to hide…
Comment by Ryan Neat — April 4, 2006 @ 11:30 pm
Did not Socrates speak of that?l
April 4th, 2006 at 11:35 pm#26….? do you feel ok?
April 4th, 2006 at 11:37 pmOr was it the Animal Farm
Four legs Good, Two Legs Better
Case of Whiskey,Bottles Smashing, a shotgun, a lawyer shot, the sign on the barn wall changed to “Gubberment “Officals” Will Not Drink, Carouse, and Engorge on the Public Trough”
April 4th, 2006 at 11:40 pmto
Gubberment “Officals” Will Not Drink, Carouse, and Engorge on the Public Trough in Excess”
I am not shocked at all by this nor would I be shocked to learn that others like:Cheney,Rummy,Condi,Turd Blossom,Delay and wife have thier own personal corral of live asian boys at Shrubs ranch in Crawford. I would have included King George in this but we all know he has a withered dyke fetish(Condi,Miers,Laura and Momma barb)
April 4th, 2006 at 11:59 pmBoy that felt good!!! Chill trolls, its either this or I get my bat!
Oh Yes, I remember Socrates was put to death by the “Righteous” whom accused him of “Impiety”.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:12 amGood one Maggie
April 5th, 2006 at 12:13 amthis won’t be the only one. “skull and bones” nothing but handpicked military and political heads for the future. and “little boys” is their form of blackmail. kay griggs a widow to an ex military official, has came out about this after her husband “committed suicide”. i have all of this stuff on a cd. i’m not savvy at this pc thing and will try and put the cd on the hard drive and send the link. serious this is some crazy crap. and guess who she says is the head honcho, kissinger.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:18 amand giving and recieving bj’s is another form of blackmail for their loyalty. that is why it is a “secret”. and who benefited from the bj’s? kissinger.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:20 amOMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First it is Claude Allen for shoplifting at Target and now it is a freaking child molester.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:20 ami’ll figure this out and get this to ya. it exposes alot. and she (kay griggs) mentions that it even happens today.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:21 amHere’s a guy in charge of Homeland security and our most vulnerable citizens are not safe around him. This is a prime example of who and what this administration is.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:36 am1. They think they are above the law.
2. The people of this nation are of absolutely no concern to this gang.
3. How something will look means nothing. Hey, why? Who cares. The members of the administration got more money than God. And the citizens are what….peasants.
4. Never think past the next quarter. It’s too hard.
5. Irony…what’s that?
#26
April 5th, 2006 at 12:41 amMaggie,
It was the administration’s job to screen this guy. He had to have had some history. He’s 55 years old. And why did it take an online cop to find him? I think more is going to come out about this.
Kill All Republicans and conservatives, now! Better yet, let’s dust off and nuke this shithole from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:55 am#47-Spudge:Now don’t swear.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:02 amGreat list Ryan…and it doesn’t include embezzlers, bribe-takers, manslaughterers, drunks, two-timers, and conartists. I don’t believe ThinkProgress has the required server space to include that list.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:03 am22,
Ryan,
Unfortunately the number of ‘pedophiles’ and ‘pervert predators’ who are republican is disproportionately large.
Anytime you have a fact to back that one up let me know. The number of Pedophiles in this country is sadly huge. By throwing out 30 or 40 cases it is a real sad attempt to make a poit. Is this guy sick? Hell Yes! If you feel that this is a republican problem I feel real sorry for you. There are plent of “Free Love communities” that are as sick too though.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:06 am52
Kill All Republicans and conservatives, now! Better yet, let’s dust off and nuke this shithole from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
Excellent Idea, lets start civil war based on party affiliation. Or hey how about political cleansing??? Hmmmmm. Perhaps create some let’s call them “reeducation centers” for people who don’t follow a specific partyline properly.
Heck, I like it, I’m in
April 5th, 2006 at 1:11 am[...] Breaking News – DHS Official Arrested by JT Davis April 4, 2006 at 9:16 pm Pacific Brian J. Doyle, DHS Deputy Press Secretary, has been “charged with trying to ’seduce’ a 14-year-old…girl over the Internet.†[...]
April 5th, 2006 at 1:13 amMy point was that yes, chronic corruption is endemic to that party. Individual perversion isn’t necessarily so. Yes, it was the job of the administration to screen this guy, but there are limits to what a screening can find.
Consider (to take a fairly public, yet sensationalist example) Terri Hatcher. Her uncle abused her. She never said a thing about it until something else happened. What, you ask? He was accused of sexual abuse of another girl, who later committed suicide. Now let’s think about what a screen would show for him.
1) he was accused of something but not convicted. Do we believe in the justice system or not? If he was accused but not convicted, he’s deemed innocent. Therefore, a screen should let him through (although a politically motivated screening might not – the belief in ‘innocent until proven guilty’ doesn’t seem to really stand up for public officials).
2) he actually was guilty of the thing he was accused of. But there was no evidence of that until someone else came forward to testify against him. Someone who, assuming that she was the only person he harmed, decided that she was too embarassed to speak out on her own. Only once she realized that there was a pattern of behaviour did she determine that she had to come forward.
What does that mean? IF we believe that people are innocent until proven guilty and IF he had never been proven guilty, then should he have been screened out? Of course not. It’s not at all uncommon for people like this to manage to keep undercover for a long time. Maybe he got cocky, maybe the cops lucked out as to being in the chat room he happened to stumble in to (do you really think that the cops are getting most of these guys?)
My point is this: Yes, he’s awful. Yes, he should be prosecuted and I’m glad they caught him. And yes, IF there is something in his history that shows that he was guilty of this sort of thing in past, they should have cut him out. But if he had only been accused of it and they had refused him on the basis of an accusation, then would they not be guilty of the same error in logic that says that “if you’re in Guantanamo, you must be a terrorist, and therefore you have no right to a fair trial”? Talk about circular reasoning!
#51, “He had to have some history” is a nice truism, but it’s just not that rare for people to be caught for this kind of thing later in life. He probably has a history of behaviour but if there’s no record of it, then no one can be expected to have caught it.
Think about it this way: is there anything that the Repubs care about more than their own power & influence? Would they really risk their own hides to give a child molester a job if they knew about it? C’mon, they know what the media is like; they wouldn’t fall for that kind of trap – they’re too damned savvy.
By jumping on this and claiming that “they’re all like that”, we look like slimy opportunists. Yes, politically and financially, they’re corrupt as hell. The difference is that they believe they can spin that. But they’re sure as hell not stupid enough to believe they can spin child abuse.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:19 amThe Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy, Claude Allen, was arrested last month for petty thievery at Target. Now, the absolute worst attempt at child seduction since God invented sex. These are the kind of crimes you’d expect out sleazy winos, not highly paid Administration officials. It’s embarrassing, really.
When I say I expect more out of the Bush Administration, I mean at least a higher class of criminal conduct.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:22 am#52 Corporal Hicks is a right wing plant put here to make this website look bad.I’m sure we’ll hear Hannity quoting that tomorrow.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:23 amRyan, I think the thing that concerns me most of all is referring to ‘them’. What categorizes ‘them’? How can you pick out one of ‘them’?
Yeah, people with that kind of tendency are probably pretty sexually unhealthy (repressed, confused, whatever). And yes, there’s probably a stronger correlation between sexual repression and Republican party members than Democratic party members (because the Republican party seems to be the bastion of the social conservatives more than fiscal conservatives these days).
The problems with saying that “Republicans” are “like that” are:
1) it implies causation. It’s like saying that because the greatest percentage of people in jail are black males, black males are responsible for most crime in society. Uh, no. There may well be another factor that causes someone to be in both situations (poverty, or a repressive upbringing). Being black doesn’t cause crime, and being Republican doesn’t cause pedophilia.
2) it’s divisive. If you’re trying to win over people who view themselves as being traditionally Republican and socially conservative and you start saying things like “Republican men rape little girls” then you’re probably not going to get your main message across.
Some people are ‘like that’. And the idea that it has anything inherently to do with their political affiliation is just bizarre. Do the Log Cabin Republicans molest little girls? Probably not, no? If you want to win people over, calling them names is probably not the best way to go about it.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:33 amSorry, but the pedophiles seem to be almost always republican.
I am still waiting for a fact list here.
Sorry, but the pedophiles seem to be almost always republican.
When you have a fact to back it up I will accept your Sorry, like you are right here. You can escape that one statement with “seem”, to you though.
Even though you guys claim to be ‘moral’ as a party?
I’m not a republican already!! I am just not a blind follower of useless drivel.
Please prove me wrong in this
As I am sure you are intelligent to understand, I cannot prove a negative.
To make it easier for you though, If you would like I can get you a number of registered/convicted pedophiles and sex offenders (Pervert Predators) and you can find 50.000001% of them that are republicans. For that matter I have a link to a family watch site if you want just find 50.000001% of the total number and I will concede.
When you are done, you can..
1) Admit you were wrong for that statement (I think we all know that won’t happen)
2) Stop posting on this and find another thread to visit
3) keep posting excuses or misfact ideals with 0 sources to back up your statement “Unfortunately the number of ‘pedophiles’ and ‘pervert predators’ who are republican is disproportionately large.”
4) Have a list of many tens of thousands of republican sex offenders of all age groups.
Maggie I agree with your statement by the way, it was well written and thoughtful.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:40 amThree words -
April 5th, 2006 at 1:42 amThis is unbelievale.
Sorry -
April 5th, 2006 at 1:44 amThree words -
This is unbelievable.
#63 Ryan Neat;I haven’t used ’smear’on this thread.Could you please explain?
April 5th, 2006 at 1:46 am#62
Clutches chest to have a heart attack
April 5th, 2006 at 1:49 am#68 – GURU,
April 5th, 2006 at 1:54 amRyan is not referring to a word, he is referring to a tactic.
#73 Ryan Neat:No Problemo
April 5th, 2006 at 2:06 am#70 to Ryan Neat:No Problemo
April 5th, 2006 at 2:08 amDid this happen on myspace?
April 5th, 2006 at 2:08 amYEAH, I’M PRETTY SURE THE MAJORITY OF PEDOPHILES WHO HAVE A POLITICAL AFFILIATION ARE REPUBLICAN. I’VE SEEN HUGE LISTS OF REPUBLICAN PERVERTS. USUALLY, WHEN YOU SEE DIRT ON DEMS, IT’S INFIDELITY.
April 5th, 2006 at 2:09 am#74
Heart Attack was over:
I have to say I’m proud of BOTH parties for the outcome in Mass. :)
Well, off to bed, Thanks for restating your position Ryan (Generally I hate all politicians so I feel no need to debate that one :) ).
April 5th, 2006 at 2:11 amshouldn’t he have been monitoring a port, or listening in to phone calls or just plain old torturing a prisoner somewhere.
what a sick fuck:
April 5th, 2006 at 2:17 am
Sounds like the prototypical Merv the perv.
April 5th, 2006 at 2:23 amThe Attorney General will be pleased by this development. That is why they said they wanted access to all those Internet files. Have to stop all those perverts from looking at porn. Nice catch, Alberto! Heck of a job!
April 5th, 2006 at 2:34 amCheck it out. I did a little poking around and it turns out that this scumbag lives about 22 miles from Mr. Target shoplifter himself, Claude Allen.
What The Hell Is Wrong With Republicans?
April 5th, 2006 at 3:16 amSpudge;They are both mealy mouthed Washingtonians;what would one expect?
April 5th, 2006 at 3:25 amTundra-
If there were a systematic list of Democrats, you can bet that the RW fundies, the RNC, and the corporate media would be trumpeting it loud and clear. Hell, they had the hysterical vapors over Clinton getting a little oral sex with a consenting adult. Just see how they are going after McKinney. 1 Democrat misappropriating office supplies = all Republican sins.
Sorry, but I’ve yet to see any list of similar Democrats. Are there a few? Sure. But all the wackjobs I see, all seem to be Republicans. No real surprise. Those that wear their morals as a badge usually have the most secrets to hide.
Rather than call out Ryan, why not enlighten us with a similar comprehensive list of Democrats…ones that are activists in their Party. I doubt you’ll find them…not that we don’t like our vices, but I don’t think we have the types of people that get off on deviant behavior, like those that seem to align themselves with the Republican Syndicate.
April 5th, 2006 at 4:08 amoh, now I get it. . .
I was confused by the priorities of the Justice Department when it diverted scarce staff and resources to go after internet porn and on-line sex crime. Couldn’t those resources be put to better use protecting homeland security?
Well, it seems that spending time and money on internet porn is protecting homeland security—the Department of Homeland Security.
April 5th, 2006 at 4:16 amKind of makes you realise why Condi banned Playboy from the WH. The Playmates were all too old for the Republicans working there.
Humour aside, I remember reading about a study done in Australia once that showed more pedophiles went into the clergy then into any other job. Maybe the Republican aims at Theocracy have something to do with why you see so many Republican officials getting caught being pedophiles.
April 5th, 2006 at 4:41 amAnyone who gets that high up into the Homeland Surveillance Department must be a Republican Royalist and party apparatchik. There is no way anyone who isn’t gets the job. Employees are screened for a conscience and backbone and, should either be detected, his or her job application is rejected.
April 5th, 2006 at 5:33 amOkay, this might be controversial, but it’s how I feel about these kinds of government operations. Yes, I am a Liberal, but I am also a Libertarian.
If an actual 14-year-old child goes online and is contacted by someone who wishes to do illegal things with the child, then I have no problem with the child reporting the person to the authorities and having the authorities arrest the person for endangering a minor.
If an actual 14-year-old has the same experience, but the police decide to go online posing as that particular 14-year-old and they catch someone, they can arrest him.
BUT, when the police make up a fictional person to lure the same exact kind of contact out of someone, whatever you want to charge that person with, whatever you want to call it, you can NOT say that this person endangered the welfare of a minor if that minor does not really exist!
It’s not that I am defending what the sick bastards are doing, because I am not. What I am saying is that you can not tell people he endangered a minor if there was no minor involved in the incident in the first place. It doesn’t matter that he thinks he was dealing with a minor. Call his behavior lewd and lascivious , if you want. Call it what you will, but do NOT say that he endangered the welfare of a minor because there was no minor child involved!
If the government can charge someone with crimes against a specific but non-existent person, then where does their power end? What if they decide that your car’s pollution was harming potential unborn babies (who haven’t been conceived yet)? I am concerned that this type of legal “reasoning” could be extended to charging someone with murdering a person who doesn’t exist.
As I said, I am not defending the man’s actions. I am condemning the practice of police officers pretending to be a minor and then charging someone with endangering that imaginary minor. Is that what we want our system of laws to become? One where you can be charged with potentially harming an imaginary person?
That’s all I wanted to say. Criticize away if you want, but I have to go to work and I won’t be back until after 5:30 PM. Have a nice day. Peace on Earth to all.
April 5th, 2006 at 7:54 amRyan great job your always on top of everything.
Fundi’s always are screaming morals and it always these Fk’ers that are molesting our children,raping women and screaming gays has to be ban as we are protecting marriage these fkers are the most immoral corrupt sicko’s ever.
bush’s W.H. is nothing but Sleazeeeeeeeeeee Corrupt sleazeee!
April 5th, 2006 at 7:59 amRyan, Someone Should send that list to EWTN. and other high profiled churches and leaders? alike.
Churches are Republican? Hhmmm.
Comment by Free Dumb — April 4, 2006 @ 11:21 pm
Hey Dumb bell most Catholics, pedophile priests included, are Democrats.
April 5th, 2006 at 8:11 amPeople who claim ‘moral virtue’ and ‘righteousness’, usually have the most to hide…
Comment by Ryan Neat — April 4, 2006 @ 11:30 pm
Hey Dimwit
“Enlightened” Hindus claim “moral virtue and righteousness”.
MORON
April 5th, 2006 at 8:15 amTroll.
Unfortunately, for your argument, Hindu’s don’t claim to be enlightened, but rather to be seeking enlightenment. To claim enlightenment would be seen as crass, and obviously false, as Enlightenment would litterally translate to no longer being subject to the life and death cycle.
April 5th, 2006 at 8:30 amI think this may have something to do with conservatives in general. I think they are for the most part sexually repressed which causes unhealthy sexual behavior. For examples, Priests, ministers, etc. Just a thought.
April 5th, 2006 at 8:46 amMaggie;
April 5th, 2006 at 9:11 amI believe in your point. I don’t think this perversion has anything to do with party affiliation.
word of the day:
du·plic·i·tous adj.
Given to or marked by deliberate deceptiveness in behavior or speech.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/duplicitous
Three cheers for the Republicans
Three cheers for the US government
Three cheers for the war in Iraq
Three cheers for Homeland Security
April 5th, 2006 at 9:22 amdoesn’t it make sense tho, folks. what other form of blackmail to use on a male figure head would work when thinking about exposing someone. so if one decides to talk well, they will talk about your oral copulation on kiss-inger and other top heads.
this is why none of the political heads have the balls to talk. kissss-inger has them.
April 5th, 2006 at 9:27 amkay griggs exposes this all. and did so undercover since her husband was whacked. she found his diary and then starting talking to others and asking questions. it’s a 4 part interview and as soon as i figure it out i will post ALL of it on tp, for sure. this will drop your jaw in disgust, but NOT surprise you. nothing surprises me anyway, especially after serving in the military.
April 5th, 2006 at 9:32 amTo #90 Wayne:It’s called a “sting’operation,and some judges will throw it out because of that.
April 5th, 2006 at 9:51 amYa’ll have got to be joking to blame this on the administration. Ya’ll are the most childish blamers in the world.
April 5th, 2006 at 9:53 am#94
Shannon–you’re really reaching here. Unhealthy sexual behavior is not exclusive to conservatives or liberals. In fact liberals are for more likely to be engaged in abhorrent sexual behavior than conservatives. when a conservative has been caught, they are held up high like some kind of trophy for the left. Admittedly, I know nothing about Doyle. I don’t know if he’s a conservative or a liberal. That really doesn’t matter other than to check the accuracy of the insults to Republicans and conservatives posted here. What matters is the disgusting nature of this guys crime. A high profile person in the Department of Homeland Security, preying on little girls.
April 5th, 2006 at 9:54 amI’m glad they caught him.
#93
Bruce Gorton,
April 5th, 2006 at 9:58 amAs usual, you focus on the wrong part of a conversation and make some ridiculous comment.
#100, noone is blaming the administration. you take part if you want to. and money and power will have alot of folks doing stuff they would never do if not coherced into it by the top figure heads. noone makes this crap up. and kay griggs, widow of a military officer definately didn’t make this up. it’s those gullable ones that think this government works under ethics. it never has and never will. no blame game just straight facts and maybe some can’t handle it.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:02 amand another thing who doesn’t know a pedaphile when around one. the admin. is still snowed under and uses it as an excuse. welll, uh, um, i didn’t know. and his whole office is full of quacks. the apple doesn’t fall to far from the tree.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:05 am#96
Here’s a word for you Ron;
vit•ri•ol (noun)
bitter hatred
extreme bitterness and hatred toward somebody or something, or an expression of this feeling in speech or writing.
I’ll use it in a sentence for you… The vitriol flows from Ron’s keyboard as he pounces on Doyles crime as an opportunity to impugn the Republican party, the U.S. government, the war in Iraq, and the Department of Homeland Security. Three cheers for Ron.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:15 am#104 I think you mean #101.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:16 am#104
You said, “and another thing who doesn’t know a pedaphile when around one.”
Unless a pedaphile is talking about children, or has sexually explicit pictures or children, no one knows he’s a pedaphile. He may seem odd. there may be something about him that makes you uncomfortable, but that could be for a number of reasons.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:31 amOnly you bs are able to look into a persons heart and determine whether they’re a pedaphile or not. I have a gift as well–I can read a persons comment and determine immediately whether they are a dumbass or not. You are one, now drop the Kay Griggs subject and go seek some help.
#105, deflect your criticism towards someone else.
If you haven’t noticed, the Republicans have had control of the US government for about 5 1/2 years now. How are they doing?
George Bush is above the law, so you can’t really criticize him. He can do no wrong, so you can’t really find fault with what he does.
You don’t mind finding fault with me, so have at it. Fill up that book of faults on me and then redeem it like a book of S&H greenstamps.
Nice try, but you’re not even close.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:32 am#108
Ron,
April 5th, 2006 at 10:46 amThe subject matter is about Brain J. Doyle, and him alone. You’re the one who has deflected the criticism of him to include other topics. You can say, “Nice try, but you’re not even close.” all day, but my comment in #105 captures exactly what you have done. You’ve used the disturbing news about Doyle to take a swipe at the Republican party, the U.S. government, the war in Iraq, and the Department of Homeland Security. These subjects have NOTHING to do with Doyles actions, but go ahead keep living in fantasy land. I’m sure in your liberal mind it all makes perfect sense.
The actions of Brian J. Doyle is a symptom of what the US government is all about. The pictures of Abu Ghraib included hundreds of pornographic photos.
Actions speak louder than words.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:50 amThe actions of Brian J. Doyle is a symptom of what the US government is all about. The pictures take at Abu Ghraib included hundreds of pornographic photos.
Actions speak louder than words.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:51 amThe actions of Brian J. Doyle are a symptom of what the US government is all about. The pictures take at Abu Ghraib included hundreds of pornographic photos.
Actions speak louder than words.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:51 amThe actions of Brian J. Doyle are a symptom of what the US government is all about. The pictures taken at Abu Ghraib included hundreds of pornographic photos.
Actions speak louder than words.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:51 amuff da, I didn’t mean to do that snafu.
April 5th, 2006 at 10:58 am#107 you said it as well, “odd” and that is a sign, right. and you want me to believe that foks do not have a sixth sense of others. well, pedaphiles exute a behavior unlike any other adult when around children, correct. but the pedaphile doesn’t ever leave them. and you want me to believe noone was ever around this guy when with children or around children. they knew but were HUSH. please. these sick folks are NOT in control of themselves. and i will not drop the kay griggs. this pedaphilia has been in the military and politacal parties for along time as blackmail. and another irighti tactic, huh. the childish behavior and tantrum throwing instead of addressing it as an adult. looks like you just called yourself out, “DA”, on that one.
April 5th, 2006 at 11:17 am#110 111 112 113
vit•ri•ol (noun)
bitter hatred
extreme bitterness and hatred toward somebody or something, or an expression of this feeling in speech or writing.
Your hatred is clear Ron. You want to take every bad thing that has happened and lump them all together. No matter the circumstance the conclusion is always the same…Doyle is pedaphile = Bush id bad. DeLay resigned = Bush is bad. Abu Ghraib = Bush is bad.
April 5th, 2006 at 11:23 amI can’t remember reading a more irresponsible comment than yours, saying that Doyles actions are a symptom of what the U.S. government is all about. That is so ridiculous, it’s doesn’t even deserve a response.
I’ll give you a little advice though… stop trying to interpret events. Your intuition doesn’t seem to be serving you very well. Learn to take things at face value i.e. Doyle was caught in the act of soliciting what he thought was a 14 year old girl. There’s no greater meaning hidden in the story. No government or agency, or party was implicated. End of story.
I just saw a Homeland Security officer get busted for child porn last week on MSNBC.
This is what the RepubliKKKans have wrought. The hypocritical view by the GOP that family values is important has been clouded by their own sick and deceptive ways.
Their philosophy is: Don’t do anything that we would want to do, especially if you’re not a RepubuliKKKan.
I know that Bubble Boy, Chertoff or anyone else in the administration should not do anything to shorten whatever sentence Doyle would get. Any attempt would be seen
April 5th, 2006 at 11:25 amas proof that Bush does allow criminals, murderers, rapists and pedophiles to get
jobs within the White House.
No, Antagonist, I wasn’t. I was actually simply correcting COD’s misstatement of facts. He claimed that enlightened Hindus claim moral superiority, I pointed out just what Enlightenment means to a Hindu and the fact that to be enlightened would hint at no longer being alive. The whole point to living is to strive for enlightenment, once you have reached that goal; there isn’t much point to coming back.
Now if he said “Hindu holy men claim moral superiority” I would have pointed out that India isn’t exactly a bastion of human rights, in essence, pointing out that he just proved Ryan’s point.
If he said, “Hindus claim moral superiority,†I would have pointed out that that is a gross generalisation, much akin to if I claimed that all Christians claim moral superiority.
But he said “Enlightened Hindus” claim moral superiority, which they don’t because those ones happen to be dead, and are thus not making any claims at all.
His argument is therefore fundamentally flawed by his choice of example, and is therefore invalid. That I point out incorrect statements is not a reflection of me missing the point to the statement, its a reflection of me pointing out that the statement is incorrect.
Oh, and if anyone claims superior morality or religous virtue, chances are they are conning you. Regal Bank in South Africa was a Jewish Bank and it conned the local Jewish communities out of quite a bit of money.
April 5th, 2006 at 11:27 amAntagonist- It seems that from your point of view, if you’re a republican, it’s okay to have sick perverted fantasies about having sex with underaged children.
If you have bothered to read #22 from Ryan, you already would know that it’s not just
one person in the RepubliKKKan Party that doesn’t actually practice what they’re preaching. Even AH-NALD and the sinister Strom Thurmond had their sausages caught in the grinder from time to time.
Ron has made his point. You’re just pissed off because the truth about your party’s corruption is surfacing and your boy Tommy Delay gave in to the inevitable and resigned. Like Tommy, Doyle should look very good in an orange jumpsuit sometime later this year.
April 5th, 2006 at 11:35 am#119
Jimbo,
You are obviously a dumbass. I am neither pissed off nor defending Republicans. You should take a course in reading comprehension because your conclusions are way off the mark. If you bothered to read my comments in #101 you would know what my point of view is about Doyle. To say that I think it’s ok to have sick perverted fantasies about having sex with underaged children pisses me off though. If you were to say that to my face, you would no longer have the ability to breath out of your nose as it would be caved into your skull. Your understanding of Republicans and conservatives is grossly impaired. Democrats and liberals are the ones who have blind allegiance to those with moral shortcomings within their camps. If a Republican or conservative has a moral failure–he stands alone. No one defends his actions. By the way DeLay is not my boy, nor will he be going to jail. Ronnie Earle will be paying the price when this is finished
April 5th, 2006 at 12:04 pm120
Yeah thats why there were absolutely no liberals protesting LBJ /sarcasm
April 5th, 2006 at 12:09 pmjust a question Antagonist:
When last did you see a Republican question the party line? Or even suggest that it was okay too?
April 5th, 2006 at 12:13 pmDemocrats and liberals are the ones who have blind allegiance to those with moral shortcomings within their camps.
Moral shortcomings? Who? You mean the party of Treason, Abortion and Sodomy? lol
If a Republican or conservative has a moral failure–he stands alone. No one defends his actions. By the way DeLay is not my boy, nor will he be going to jail. Ronnie Earle will be paying the price when this is finished
Comment by Antagonist
You’re right on all counts. We don’t try and justify some guys bad behavior because he “was born that way”, “was abused as a child”, “a victim of racism” or any of the hundred excuses liberal use to justify their own terrible behavior. Oh, and Ronnie Earl is screwed, fish/barrel/bang.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:21 pm#122
April 5th, 2006 at 12:23 pmWhat’s your point?
#123
It’s a double standard with these guys too. They give eachother a free pass, while expressing outrage regarding Republicans.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:28 pmDemocrats and liberals are the ones who have blind allegiance to those with moral shortcomings within their camps.
You are saying its the liberals and democrats who are blindly following immoral leaders, and yet when last have any of your pundits questioned the GOP line? Are you calling a ex-drug addict who deserted his post in a time of war moral?
Your implication is that those of your party and your political alignment do not hold blind allegiance to those with moral shortcomings within their camps. yet when one looks at it, I haven’t seen too much in the way of you guys questioning your leaders.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:41 pmExamples?
April 5th, 2006 at 12:42 pm#126
You said–
yet when one looks at it, I haven’t seen too much in the way of you guys questioning your leaders.
The same can be said for your side.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:44 pmAntagonist– If you say Delay is not your boy, why does it sound like you don’t want him to go to prison? Your answer lacks cohesion or any proof that you’re not hypocrite. Since you are a hypocrite, I’d like to know, if you read Ryan’s post on #22?
If not, why? Also, I’d like to know why you can’t admit that RepubliKKKans and conservatives have blind allegiances to a Presdent who allows man-made and natural disasters to happen. Why is it a president hires criminals, shoplifters, pedophiles, money launderers, and not anyone of morals and on-hand experiences?
Doyle, like Delay, Bush, Cheney and the rest of the fourth reich deserve to spend some time in the penitentary with a bar of soap in their hands and their conciense, if they have any, in their minds.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:55 pmNot really. I strongly disagree with Hillary Clinton, for example, because I feel her stance on gaming is a bit cuckoo for Coco Puffs. Generally the Democrats disgust me right now because for all that they have been demonised beyond all reason, they have shown zero backbone in congress, and have more or less rolled over and played dead whenever someone even started to look like saying the word “Traitor” in their general direction.
My personal view is that the Democrats have become token resistance, with only a few decent members of their party remaining. Thus I always root for the independents and smaller parties, because what they lack in experience should at least be made up in the fact that nobody has bothered to buy them yet.
Indeed, George Clooney, a very public liberal, said of the Democrats at one point “Fuck you, you were decieved, you were afraid of being called traitors,” and I more or less agree with that summary. I may not like the guy as an actor, comes across as a bit smug if you ask me, but that was pretty well put.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:06 pmJimbo
To be fair, Bush probably didn’t know the guy was a pedophile. It isn’t exactly the sort of thing you tell everyone.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:14 pmBruce, You have got to see “Good Night and Good Luck” which I just rented two days ago. It is a powerful film with more meaning about journalism than ever before.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:18 pmGeorge is a good director and serves well in his role of Fred Friendly.
#131 Unfortunately, Bush doesn’t know anything. That’s why a lot of things have gone wrong courtesy of the White House. I only hope that the Democrats show some spine, support Feingold and do what the can for complete domination in November.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:21 pm#129
Jimbo,
I don’t care if DeLay goes to prison or not. The facts are the charges against him are frivolous. He’s been indicted on laws that didn’t exist at the time, and Ronnie Earle knows that. This is totally a political operation using our criminal justice system for political purposes and political gain. I’m suprised that you can’t see that dumbass.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:29 pmI’d like to know why you can’t spell Republican correctly. Are you trying to be funny, or are you just stupid? Since you are stupid you should know that list in # 22 are just the ones who got caught. It is known that a majority of major politicians in America have participated in deviant sexual conduct, including homosexuality, pedophilia and child rape. It occurs every summer at the Bohemian Grove and other social meetings of theirs, and those who investigate and try to speak out about it are frequently ignored. Many believe that the Democrat list is just as long.
Antagonist- you certain live up to your name. You also live up to anothe name that I should give you since you are so intnet on being violent with my character.
I hereby dub you ASSHOLE!
April 5th, 2006 at 1:42 pmOh, and ASSHOLE!, Why do I spell RepubliKKKans as RepubliKKKans? Simple, read your history books on the 20th Century. Also since RepubliKKKans have no respect for anyone who isn’t a white anglo-saxon male, I’m being funny and serious.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:49 pmHe’s been indicted on laws that didn’t exist at the time, and Ronnie Earle knows that. This is totally a political operation using our criminal justice system for political purposes and political gain.
Comment by Antagonist — April 5, 2006 @ 1:29 pm
Tom Delay’s indictment came to be because he helped funnel corporate money into the 2002 state election -something that has long been illegal in Texas. Those laws did exist at the time.
Also, Delay was indicted by a Texas Grand Jury. No political gain possible there.
Delay contends he didn’t know where the money came from because he wasn’t involved in the day-to-day operation, not that the laws didn’t exist. Get your talking points straight.
It is known that a majority of major politicians in America have participated in deviant sexual conduct, including homosexuality, pedophilia and child rape.
I would like to add this one to the list:
Two young men charged with sodomizing 18 boys at a youth camp last year have been offered a plea agreement that may net them little jail time and no record of sexual assault.
Clifton Bennett, 18, the son of Arizona Senate President Ken Bennett, and his co-defendant, Kyle Wheeler, 19, were charged in January with 18 counts of aggravated assault and 18 counts of kidnapping for the incidents, which happened at a youth camp last June.
Son of Senate president offered plea deal in assault case
Not only the members of the party of morals and personal responsibility engage in deviant sexual acts, they avoid taking responsibility -and they see that their relatives get away with it too.
It occurs every summer at the Bohemian Grove and other social meetings of theirs,
So I guess in your opinion this makes it ok…. stuff happens, right?
April 5th, 2006 at 1:54 pm#136
You said–
RepubliKKKans have no respect for anyone who isn’t a white anglo-saxon male.
Really? How many minorities has Bush put into positions of power? What have the Democrats done besides engage in character assasination on every one of them?
Not only are you a dumbass, you’re an ignorant hack. The idea of accurately handling information, and being fair-minded totally escapes you. Everything is man-handled to fit your distorted world view isn’t it. I hereby dub you SHITHEAD!
April 5th, 2006 at 2:04 pm#137
It occurs every summer at the Bohemian Grove and other social meetings of theirs,
So I guess in your opinion this makes it ok…. stuff happens, right?
Comment by Gregor Samsa — April 5, 2006 @ 1:54 pm
Where do you idiots keep coming from? I Don’t condone any such behavior! Anyone who engages in these activities ought to be punished to the fullest extent of the law! Republican and Democrat alike! My comment was intended to point out that Democrats are involed in these types of behaviors as well. As for DeLay, the political gain occurred the moment he was indicted–he had to step down–duh! You guys are so dilluded. You actulally believe that corruption exists on only one side of the aisle. The Democrats are as equally corrupt–in addition they’re the party of no ideas, no agenda, and constant attack of the current administration. AND they can’t be trusted with National security.
April 5th, 2006 at 2:35 pmThe token amount and no more.
April 5th, 2006 at 2:37 pmShow us proof. Just saying it doesn’t make it so. Post some proof or STFU.
April 5th, 2006 at 2:38 pmFudge Boy,
April 5th, 2006 at 2:47 pmI don’t recall squeezing your head, so why are you giving me shit?
No matter what proof was given to you, you would deny it. I’ve see you in action–I’m not going to waste my time with you. So why don’t you STFU and go back to 69ing Democrat Soldier or some other liberal buddy of yours.
Where do you idiots keep coming from? I Don’t condone any such behavior! Comment by Antagonist — April 5, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
Then don’t make idiotic comments.
As for DeLay, the political gain occurred the moment he was indicted–he had to step down–duh! You guys are so dilluded.
I think you meant “deluded”.
Your wording suggested the political gain was for Ronnie Earle personally. I already showed that cannot be the case because Delay was indicted by a grand jury.
Earle is a prosecutor who is doing his job. If someone benefits politically from it, well, that is completely out his control. Get a hold of yourself.
Also, I noticed you chose not to insist the laws didn’t exist at the time. I will take that as a tacit admission you were wrong.
You actulally believe that corruption exists on only one side of the aisle.
Strawman.
The Democrats are as equally corrupt–in addition they’re the party of no ideas, no agenda, and constant attack of the current administration. AND they can’t be trusted with National security.
NeD -is that you?
April 5th, 2006 at 2:49 pmRight, Antagonist:
Bush has put more minorities in position of political power then any president prior to him. It’s a fact, I am not going to dispute it.
It’s also a fact that most of Bush’s appointments have been ill qualified, formerly employed in positions which cast doubt on their independence, have been implicated in some of the biggest fraud cases in recent American history or have simply been incompetent. Black, White, Indian, whatever, they have not been a scandal free bunch.
It isn’t so much character assassination as simple bald fact reflecting badly on Bush’s administrations. Minorities and all.
That said, I will grant you that the racism claim was basically wrong. I won’t grant you “character assassination” though.
April 5th, 2006 at 2:56 pm#138- Just because they are skilled at presenting an “image” that they want people to accept as “reality”, does not mean that they respect those they freely use for their own purposes. Do you think that Colin Powell looks back upon his time with BushCo with pride? I’m sure he did not mind that his reputation was damaged beyond repair by the actions of BushCo. He is a “good soldier”, after all. Following orders is something he knows. All of Bush’s choices for positions in his Administration have a purpose, payback for “services rendered”, or an attempt to manipulate the perceptions of him as an “Equal Opportunity Employer”. To appear “color-blind” to the gullible. BushCo only respects those with as much power, money and influence as them, or those with more. To hell with the peasants. I’m not “hatin’”, I’m just keeping it “real”.
April 5th, 2006 at 3:02 pmThis is ridiculous. I have plenty of problems with Bush and republicans in general, but somehow characterizing this disgusting conduct as representative of their political ideology is the kind of ad homenem attack that causes people to disimiss other actually legitimate opinions as just more ravings of a madman. If you’re unwilling to refrain from this childish rhetoric as a courtesy to the millions of people who may be political opponents but are not evil, at least do so to avoid tarnishing both your integrity and credibility.
April 5th, 2006 at 3:11 pm#139 “My comment was intended to point out that Democrats are involed in these types of behaviors as well.”
Then please offer us a list in the same form as in post #22. We can fact check, just show that data. No one here has once argued that the Democratic Party is filled with THE examples of morality. But a comparison of convictions (or plea bargains) for crimes – particularly of a sexual nature – does seem to indicate that the politicians elected or placed by the Republican Party are inclined to criminal behavior FAR more than those in the other parties. Perhaps it is because the party platforms allure certain criminal types (which is not a comment on the platforms themselves).
Many have simply asked for a similar list to the one posted above. If it is as rampant in the Democratic party as you claim, then such a list should be easy to compile. Cite a similar number of examples of similar caliber and occurring within a similar time frame. That would be a sufficient basis for you to argue your point from. If all you have, however, is your personal opinion, with no facts, that the “Democrats are involed in these types of behaviors as well” and to a similar degree (which is implied by me and not directly in your words), it is not much of an argument to stand against clear examples. You ask us readers to accept your opinion (and of course all types of people engage in all types of bad behavior… the issue involves the illegal proclivities of politicians and the fact that the evidence at hand screams that there is a clear and present abundance of criminals in one of the parties) without any proof. I am certain that you would not accept any information from a poster here without proof, and if it disagrees with your preconceived notions then you will not accept it with evidence either. Which makes this seem pointless, as before. Still, I will continue for just a little more.
“As for DeLay, the political gain occurred the moment he was indicted–he had to step down–duh! You guys are so dilluded.”
So, you propose that by being indicted, and therefore having to step down, it was simply a partisan attack? So, because he was in a position of political power that had a rule saying that if indicted he would have to step down, in order to avoid any partisan attacks he should be IMMUNE from any indictments, regardless of any suspicious activity he may have been involved in? He should have been left in his position unless the jury had clear evidence of his ABSOLUTE guilt (in other words, he needs to be tried and convicted before being tried). That is what you and your allies seem to propose. Leave the man be, unless you have a rock solid, DeLay’s-mom-couldn’t-refute-the-evidence kind of case. That is what is expressly implied. Immunity because “he’s one of the boys”.
And who was saying something about blindly following….?
P.s. : I don’t follow ANY party – the ascendency of the (2 major) political parties into minor aristocratic-like circles is the downfall of the American political system.
April 5th, 2006 at 3:15 pm“… read your history books on the 20th Century. ”
Comment by JIMBO — April 5, 2006 @ 1:49 pm
Jimbo
April 5th, 2006 at 4:21 pmYou should read your history books. Look up Orval Eugene Faubus. While you’re there take a look at the civil rights act of 1968 you will notice democrats opposed the measure by a 3-1 margin over republicans. The supreme court led by justice Warren Berger had to force busing on liberal democrat Boston. These are just a fe examples that prove you dont know jack.
Jimbo
That was 1964 not 68 thank you.
If you want to continue down the history road in 1868 the kkk murderd 1300 Republicans. Lincoln was a Republican. The klan played a major role in the 1924 Democratic convention, halted from advancing their agenda only by Catholics, however they still managed to defeat a condemnation by the party.
As a political party they advocated a “Progressive” agenda,
In 1920 they elected Democrat J. Thomas Heflin to the senate.
In 1935 David Bibb Graves (D) was elected Gov of Alabama and was considered a liberal reformer one of the states most “progressive” ever.
New Deal supporter Hugo Black a democratic senator was nominated to the SCOTUS by FDR in 1937 and confirmed.
Presently Robert C Byrd a Democrat from west virginia and former klansman is serving in the US senate.
April 5th, 2006 at 7:45 pm# 143 Antagonist:about [F]udgeBoy.Now thats one hell of a ZING!
April 6th, 2006 at 2:35 amHas anybody made the point yet that if the Department of Homeland Security can’t even police its own members, how on earth can it perform its mandated function?
This was supposed to be the administration of professionalism and security, but for the last 5+ years we’ve witnessed breakdowns in responsibility, reliability, and accountability at multiple levels in the Executive branch.
Trolls should consider that the issue really isn’t Doyle at all, but an alarming series of blunders and amatuerism. Ignoring the PDB dated August 2001 stating that Bin Laden was going to attack America using airliners should have been grounds for impeachment, not swept under the rug.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
Instead of rushing to the political defense of Bush, they should perhaps consider that the safety of America is more important than whether liberals “win” an argument, which seems to be the overriding preoccupation of the Republican Party.
April 6th, 2006 at 9:47 amI agree, incompetence is a problem but Dems pretend the problem started with President Bush. These government bureauc·racies are breeding grounds of incompetence and corruption which is the reason real conservatives resist big gov. it is unaccountable and out of control. The real solution is to be rid of as much of it as possible, instead the ball is passed to a new bunch of crooks with a different name. While Dems are busy trying to keep megacorporations from enslaving US they are feeding the monster callled Government which is as great a threat if not greater.
April 6th, 2006 at 5:58 pm“RepubliKKKans have no respect for anyone who isn’t a white anglo-saxon male, I’m being funny and serious.”
Comment by JIMBOB McKinney
Thank you, Mr. McKinney for demonstrating why the worn-out term “racist” is no-longer taken seriously by those repelled by true racism – and a bad hair day…..
April 6th, 2006 at 6:47 pmLast night, Mr. Aphrodite and I were talking about the arrest of Brian Doyle. I told hime I was glad the police were able to take this disgusting lecherer off the street. Hopefully, the evidence at trial will be enough to see that justice is done. (Unlike my liberal friends, I don’t think perverts and child molesters can be rehabilitated. I favour LWOP sentences for those who cannot control their “impulses”.)
But what was most interesting about our conversation was our agreement in how the different political factions generally react to the criminal and or debauched behaviour of their members. In general, progs make excuses and favour the route of contrition. Repubs are generally disgusted – it would be difficult for Ted the Swimmer to get re-elected repeatedly in Alabama or Idaho
April 6th, 2006 at 8:59 pm[...] The lefty blogs have been buzzing about how Doyle represents the GOP, Republicans, Conservatives…you know those of us who have morals and values. The leftards have been busy patting themselves on their shoulders for being members of the party who represents the true American spirit. [...]
April 7th, 2006 at 7:54 pm1. Mr. Doyle was a civil servant, not a political appointee. Civil servants are not vetted for their jobs.
April 7th, 2006 at 9:19 pm2. Since 1984 Mr. Doyle has been a registered Democrat.
It’s unsurprising that this pervert is a Democrat. See registered here.
It’s also unsurprising that none of the media reports saw fit to mention that fact, either.
It sure is hilarious to go back and re-read the venomous comments on this thread now that the revelation has been made, though.
April 7th, 2006 at 11:04 pmIt’s unsurprising that this pervert is a Democrat. See registered here.
It’s also unsurprising that none of the media reports saw fit to mention that fact, either.
It sure is hilarious to go back and re-read the venomous comments on this thread now that the revelation has been made, though. ”
Comment by Anonymous — April 7, 2006 @ 11:04 pm
It’s typical though,
April 8th, 2006 at 8:18 amSpeculation becomes automatic guilt if they can lay it on the President. Then they feed this insane hate with their paranoia and speculation. In addition they suffer from Christophobia. Its a pity.
Excuse me, but you seem to disregard facts in this web site. Mr. Doyle was never appointed by President Bush. He used to work for the Time magazine Washington bureau and is a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT.
April 10th, 2006 at 4:52 pm[...] And the comment section at Think Progress starts off with this: [...]
April 18th, 2006 at 4:20 pm