In an interview yesterday with TIME Magazine, Tom DeLay said he was a “target” because he was “effective” and accomplished “some pretty amazing things.” DeLay is especially proud of the K-Street Project, the pay-to-play system where the success of lobbyists would be dictated not by how compelling a case they could make, but rather by how willing they would be to line the pockets of DeLay and his colleagues.
DeLay describes how it works:
TIME: Do you think you did anything that made you more of a target for your critics? Do you think you made it easier for the opponents to —
DeLay: No. The opponents HATE what we do—what we have done in the last 11 years in the majority. We have built the largest political coalition of my adult lifetime. They hate that. We have been effective for 11 years going now, doing some pretty amazing things. They hate that. The reason we’ve been effective is we’ve tried to change the culture of Washington, D.C. And do it legally and ethically. The Democrats hate the fact that their culture of K Street has been changed from a totally dominated Democrat K Street [lobbying community] to a totally dominated Republican K Street. Nothing illegal about that at all. And we built that. When we took over in 1995, the K Street contributions to elections was 70/30—70 percent Democrat, 30 percent Republican. Today it’s 60/40—60 percent Republican and 40 percent Republican. That’s a change in culture. Democrats and the left hate that, and they have worked very hard to destroy it.
While DeLay is gone, the corrupt system he set up — and is so proud of — remains. It’s that system that allowed people like Jack Abramoff to thrive. (More about the K Street Project and Abramoff’s role HERE.)
Legally and ethically?
I don’t think those words mean what he thinks they mean.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:26 amHey Judd – now what are you all going to talk about – DeLay is gone. His seat is safe. You losers got what you asked for.
I know Republicans will be talking about the corruption surrounding Cynthia McKinney. Until Democrats stop playing the race card and call on her to resign, we will wrap her around your necks!
April 4th, 2006 at 10:26 am“Today it’s 60/40—60 percent Republican and 40 percent Republican. That’s a change in culture.”
I wonder if saying Republican twice for those percentages was Delay emphasizing his point or if TIME just made an error?
April 4th, 2006 at 10:30 amK-Street is a thug lobby of corruption and sleaze, so for DeLay to be proud of that is disgusting! Americans must demand that all lobbyists be banned from Washington, DC, and lobbying made a felony in DC > PERIOD.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:31 amYup, they took over this country with lies, bribery, gerrymandering, bullying, and corruption. DeLay is only the tip of the iceberg in this blatant ten year attack on representational democracy. Slowly but surely the lawless behavior is being brought to light and even the MSM cannot save you thugs anymore. The anti patriots that defend this crook will try to stop the Dems from talking about it by the same tactic that Culture of Corruption mentioned above… “now what are you all going to talk about – DeLay is gone.” HA HA HA HA !!!!! Sure, we’ll all shut up now and let your crooked GOP continue the grand ripoff of the American People,… sure that’s gonna happen!!!
April 4th, 2006 at 10:33 amHAHAHAHAH!!!!
LOSER!!!!!!
Culture odd disruption, Remember when Clinton left office, everyone thought Rush L. wouldn’t have anything to talk about? What Tom Delay really represents is the GOP will bait and switch on it’s rubes for constituents for corporations and their benifit any day. What happened to the GOP that WAS the party of smaller government? Let’s see what the social conservatives say when he goes to jail.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:35 amRep. DeLay has announced that he won’t seek re-election, and that he will resign sometime effective this June.
His previous press secretary has been indicted and pled guilty.
His previous deputy chief of staff has been indicted and pled guilty.
His (previous?) chief of staff is under investigation.
His e-mails from the period when he was laundering money have been turned over to the investigators.
The legacy of the Hammer: corrupticus in extremis.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:35 amHe’s right. I hate that.
Goper’s Lament (Hard To Be A Republican)
April 4th, 2006 at 10:37 am#6 – as a social conservative, I understand that the best way to push our agenda is to keep the senate in GOP hands. We understand Democrats will unleash their hatred on all of Bush’s Court nominees and that is unacceptable. If you were moderate and less hateful, I would re-consider, but you are not.
Also – thank you all for trashing John McCain. We don’t want him. We want Rudy to run in 2008.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:40 am#2 the difference is that if it appears that McKinney is guilty of misusing taxpayer funds to fly Isaac Hayes around the country or that she did vioalte the law int he Capital, most dems will support her prosecuition. On the other hand when republicans committ felonies, few if any speak out against them. For instance the Dukester, I hear or read very little about hsi corruption fromt he right. Delay I hear or read very little about his corruption form the right. With Delay he is being persecuted. Umm the dominos are falling all around him, his close associates are going to prison and trading their knowledge for lesser sentences and that is why he is leaving congress in June rather than simply not running for re-election. The guy is as dirty as they have ever come in congress and the right still rallies around him, which pretty much sums up the republican party and their vlaues.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:41 amChristian money was KEY to his bribery and money laundering. Do you think they will appreciate their support being used that way?
April 4th, 2006 at 10:43 amI guess we are going to find out if they will alter the Ten Commandments to suit Delay. First they will have to rid the list of “Thou shalt not steal”. Then they will have to extract the apparently useless “Thou shalt not bear false witness”, as Delay has never stopped attacking his government appointed prosecuters for objecting to his bribes. And if he was involved in the Suncruise thing, the old “thou shalt not kill” has to go, but it was already on shakey legs as a result of St. George’s preemptive war directive, so it probably won’t be missed in most evangelical churches, eh? And then there is all that Covet stuff, which was Delay’s whole problem with coveting the power that owning ALL of CONGRESS would provide. Yup, the bible seems in for a major overhaul,… or maybe the Christians could just open their eyes? Remember what democracy was supposed to be before the ministers starting redefining it for them?
Just shows what a twisted piece of shit Delay is. Have fun in prison Tom.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:44 amJust noticing the most frequently used word in DeLete’s little spew was (hate)……
April 4th, 2006 at 10:44 amVery similar to the rabid rantings of many of his media supporters as of late, and, come to think of it, as a rule!
#10 – Is DeLay resigning? Did Duke resign? Did Clinton resign when he lied under oath, obstructed justice and took the country on a sex scandal tour instead of aggressively fighting Al Qaeda?
The difference is you are all hypocrites. You always have been. Republicans will deal with the bad apples and stay in power. You people, on the other hand, sit back and let a thug like McKinney spew anti-jew, racist rhetoric all the time because you don’t want to offend your radical base. You are hurting the country way more than DeLay ever could.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:46 am#9 Rudy (Milk through nose) lmfao. Thanks, I needed that.
50 Ways To Dump The Dubya
April 4th, 2006 at 10:48 am#9 – You mean like the GOP released their hatred on Pres. Clinton court nominees? Don’t forget, they held up more Pres. Clinton’s nominees using procedural blocks than the Dems filibustered any of Pres. Bush’s nominees.
I guess the term “what goes around, comes around” doesn’t mean much to you, does it?
How about “You reap what you sow”?
I guess that makes the Republican Standard Operating Talking Points to be “Do as I say, not as I do”.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:48 am#14 – Talk about projecting! “spew anti-jew, racist rhetoric all the time because you don’t want to offend your radical base”
That is exactly what the Republican extremists do, and I have never once heard a single Republican call them on their behavior.
Oh well, one can only assume that the splinter on the others eye is MUCH more important than the beam in your own eye.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:51 amT-Tommy, still thinks he can create reality.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:53 amDude’s a total nut-bar.
LOL McKinney has never taken bribes like DeLay has many times, so she has done nothing wrong other than being accused of slapping a sissy police security guard who grabbed her arm and twisted it! Any woman would slap a man who treated her that way!
April 4th, 2006 at 10:54 amSummed up in a work —–
KARMA!!!!!
April 4th, 2006 at 10:55 am#9…I truely hope your party runs Rudy. This man has more perverted skeletons in his closet than Clinton ever fantasized about. The thought of him lisping his way through excuse after excuse is pure joy! By the way, with Tommy “Limp Hammer” pulling out, does this mean his wife finishes you all off?? Eat shit criminals!!!!!
April 4th, 2006 at 10:55 am#19 – Could you imagine the uproar if a Republican had been “manhandled” by the Capital Police? Of course, the so-called “liberal media†would have portrayed the Police as the aggressor in that particular case. Since it was a Democrat, however, it’s all going to be the Democrats fault.
Double standards, anyone?
April 4th, 2006 at 10:57 amWhat da know!
A republican opened their mouth and a lie came out.
“70/30—70 percent Democrat, 30 percent Republican”
Not true, not even maybe. Money split just about 50-50 and there was a lot less.
Dead bug is heading for jail, that is a given. The question is will his wife and daughter end up behind bars?
April 4th, 2006 at 10:57 amWhy would anyone want Rudy for president. He had been divored twice and had an affair.
REAL FAMILY VALUES.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:57 amOPPS – WORD
April 4th, 2006 at 10:58 amFamily values? Pepublicans do not know what that means!
April 4th, 2006 at 11:00 amPost 22 if a police security guard grabbed any Republican by the arm, then he would have been fired and/or charged with assault! Hastert wants McKinney arrested in public as revenge for his pal DeLay being forced out of the Congress!
April 4th, 2006 at 11:03 am#6 – as a social conservative, I understand that the best way to push our agenda is to keep the senate in GOP hands. We understand Democrats will unleash their hatred on all of Bush’s Court nominees and that is unacceptable. If you were moderate and less hateful, I would re-consider, but you are not.
Also – thank you all for trashing John McCain. We don’t want him. We want Rudy to run in 2008.
Comment by Culture of Disruption — April 4, 2006 @ 10:40 am
Are you serious? You scare me. You’re one of the accomplices to the gigantic mess we are currently in. You guys control everything – and then you wanna blame the minority? No wonder you’re all on Prozac. Sheesh!
April 4th, 2006 at 11:03 am.”We don’t want him. We want Rudy to run in 2008.”
Pro-gay rights, pro-gun control, pro-abortion Rudy? The same Rudy who had an adulterous affair on his wife and moved in with two gay men while his wife kept the statehouse?
That Rudy?
-GSD
April 4th, 2006 at 11:05 amWhile there is a sense of profound goodness at the concept of DeLay finally owning up to how much of a taint he is to not only the Republican party, but Congress in general, the point you made about the system he set up remaining is very good. I’m dancing in my chair over his leaving, but his stink remains. We need a good housecleaner.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:05 am#16 – as the majority, it was our perogative. The precedent had already been set by Democrats with 41’s nominees. Not to mention the smearing the left does.
#17 – no projection. The Democratic base makes more anti-jew statements today than any other segment of the political spectrum.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:09 am#17 – no projection. The Democratic base makes more anti-jew statements today than any other segment of the political spectrum.
That explains Fienstein, Fiengold, Kohl, Wexler, Nadler, Frank, Levin, Lautenburg and the rest.
Damn Nazis.
Keep smoking the stuff, it makes reality seem a little less painful.
-GSD
April 4th, 2006 at 11:18 amThere will always be a greazy place in my heart for Tom DeLay.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:19 am#9 unleash their hatred? The only hatred I see being unleashed against judges is coming form the right. I am in favor of judges who follow the law and exercise sound legal judgment, not judges who are nominated to push a particular ideology. To you an activist judge is one who dose not push a certain ideology. To me an activist judge is one who does put ideology before principal or the law. For instance Scalia and Thomas. They voted against the Oregon Assisted Suicide law but if you hear them discuss their legal beliefs it is that social and moral issues should be the realm of the states, unless of course they don’t agree with what the states do.
#10 Clinton is not in office anymore. If democrats treated Bush in a similar manner for similar reasons you would be frothing at the mouth with anger. Tossing Clinton into the argument with me is like adding, well nothing to the conversation. You see I was you ten years ago and was absolutely against Clinton and wanted him and his administration gone. However it did not take long before it became evidently clear that there was no wrong doing with White water and that the special prosecutor was going to stay at the job till he found something, anything, and he did eventually. However I do think lying about infidelity is far less of a crime than selling votes in congress, lying about almost everything you do (Bush) or general incompetence on seemingly every issue (Bush administration). But if it gives you comfort keep harping on Clinton, Keep brining up the 1990’s and reminding people about the peace and prosperity of the decade. Keep bringing up Al Queda and how the republican congress thwarted nearly every move Clinton made in office. Keep brining up that Bush has been pursuing Al Queda (not really, but we will pretend) with everything he has for longer than Clinton and has made the US less safe. More people died in the US from terrorist activites on Bush’s watch than Clinton’s. More people have died around the world from terrorist activities on Bush’s watch than on Clinton’s. More money has been spent on terrorism on Bush’s watch than on Clintons, yet the results are more terrorism, less safety and a general clusterfuck dunnign DC. Good job, pat yourself and your neo con buddies on the back. Face it terrorism is a tactic, you can’t defesat tactics. You defeat what we are fighting by removing the root cause of what they are fighting for. But you continue with the right wing line of kill em all, they are all guilty of something, it seems to give the right great comfort.
Also continue on with harping about the Clinton years and his lying under oath. At least give the guy credit for going under oath, something the cheerleader frat boy will not do. If Clinton had treated investigators the way Bush has, your head would have expploded with anger. But eventually he did go under oath and testify. Hopefully congress will switch hands and we can enter a new pahse of accuntabillity which is one of the pillars of our constitution that has been removed by the corrupt powers that be.
#17 They won’t even dissavow Ann Coulter and her filth, They won’t dissavow a Rush rascist statement, they will never disavow anyone who uses any tactic to help spread hate against their political opponants.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:21 amI think this a small victory in a bigger fight and believe we dems and indies need to learn from our successes. Keep the words Incompetence and Corruption in the dialogue at every chance!
April 4th, 2006 at 11:23 am“Not to mention the smearing the left does.”
No smearing of Murtha, Kennedy, Kerry, Cleland.
According to the pill junkie that the Republicans take their marching orders from Hillary had murdered Vince Foster and is a socialist lesbian too.
Nope, no smearing from the right.
-GSD
Call El- Rushbo, get some better doses.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:23 am#31 – You are projecting yet again. The Dems didn’t block near as many of the court nominees as the Reps did, and they were in the Majority at the time of pres. Bush 41!
You’re also completely wrong about the entrenched anti-semitism of the Republican pary.
“FreeRepublic] also happens to be the repository for anti-Jew, anti-Catholic, anti-homosexual, anti-John Kerry rants by Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D.” –Co-author of Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry.â€
http://www.elandslide.org/preview. cfm?term=Republican%20Dirty%20Tricks
“WCCO reports that numerous Minnesota John Kerry supporters recently received threatening anti-Semitic letters disguised as Rosh Hashanah cards. The letters also contained anti-Catholic and anti-gay references.†Interesting how no Republicans received these letters.
http://www.mngopwatch.com/archives/2004/09/18/
“We are sure that you are aware of recent newspaper reports in The Washington Post and The New York Times linking two important and high profile members of your party with a white supremacist and anti-semitic group, the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC). Representative Bob Barr of Georgia, a member of the House Judiciary Committee and one of the thirteen managers in the impeachment trial, and Senate Majority Leader, Senator Trent Lott of Mississippi, were the two named in the various articles. Their linkage to white supremacist and anti-semitic groups in 1999, and their weak denials, are of great concern to all Members of Congress and the American people.â€
http://www.ferris.edu/ISAR/Institut/CCC/blackcaucas.htm
http://www.rinfret.com/hl.html
April 4th, 2006 at 11:24 am#22
If the bitch would have stopped when the security guard asked her to do three times she wouldn’t be in trouble.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:26 am.
Welcome to our Democracy.
“not by how compelling a case they could make, but rather by how willing they would be to line the pockets of DeLay and his colleagues”
I’ve heard Newt Gingrich make these types of comments too… why not be pay to play. Delay is an arrogant idiot, but Gingrich should should know better.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:28 am.
#37 – And your response if it was a Republican who was “asked to stop”?
“Why didn’t the police act in a professional manner towards a respected member of congress!” or some other load of partisan crap, I’m quite sure.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:30 amOoops! My #40 post should have referenced #38!
My mistake! Circular references are so. . . . . circular!
April 4th, 2006 at 11:32 amBoner has spoken up: “He has served our nation with integrity and honor.”
Kick ‘em all out!
April 4th, 2006 at 11:32 amIt’s done again. Taking the discussion away from the culture of sleaze and corruption that Delay and company have practiced for so long in congress and turned it into a Clinton did this or that, Or McKinney this… Lets blow away the smoke screen and get back to discussing just how corrupt the republican party is on a nationally organized scale (can anyone say RICO?) McKinney is an isolate incident not a pattern of corruption.
#38 Bitch? Nice, real nice. If she was a white woman name Harris would you still call her a bitch? Or would you be calling for the security guard to be fired? I see this case in a light similar to the London tube shooting last year. Initially the story came out, that the guy in the puffy coat ran from police who clearly identified themselves, he jumped the turnstile and they ended up shooting him because they thought he was going to explode a bomb. The right wingers were frothy over the prospect that anyone would question the police version and called them terrorist sympathizers or worse. Eventually the truth came out, Jean, jacket, no jumping turnstile, no attempt to stop him prior to getting into the station, no police warnings, and they held him down as they shot him. The McKinney case is not so bad as that, but I will wait until more details come out before I pronounce any judgment and I will support prosecution if it is determined that she has done wrong. I won’t support it simply because she is a dem and the republicans need to cover up more bull shit with a “prosecuted Dem” smoke screen. Likewise I won’t simply support her to thwart republicans. Law is law and if it is broken it should be prosecuted. I believe this for any citizen of the US be they me, a member of congress or the president of the united states. Too bad 30% of the country does not agree with the last sentiment.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:44 am#42 – They have their own little world (reality), don’t they? Disgusting.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:44 amSo it takes 10 years to get corrupt politicians out.
Cunningham was longer than that.
“not by how compelling a case they could make, but rather by how willing they would be to line the pockets of DeLay and his colleagues.”
The above being the case, and we know money isn’t limited to US, exactly which countries did Delay accept money from? Did Delay sell us to the enemy? It seems to me then, that Delay, the Republican party, caused 9/11 to happen. Or they created an environment which allowed it to happen, and worse, why communications and procedures didn’t work. The levees breaking, did the Republicans do that too. I mean, maybe NO didn’t fork over enough dough. So the radical Evangelicals evidently have loads of cash that they gave Delay. Boy, Delay wasn’t kidding when he said, “I’m the government.” He controlled the funds, and he controlled what got on the floor for a vote even.
What was the Democractic party doing during this time?
It seems like a no-win situation for citizens, either the Republicans get the money or the Democrats. I’ve read that both parties made an agreement not to bring ethics charges against one another in the House. So as much as I dislike the practices of Tom Delay, and think he is a miserable person lacking character, I think reasonable people know the root cause of the problem is not being addressed by either party. Out of all the Senators, and all the Representatives, I know of 1 person, maybe 2 (depending on how he feels that day) that are actually trying to get the massive corrosive money out of our politics.
How do we restore the integrity to our elections and government?
April 4th, 2006 at 11:48 amHA HA HA! The REALLY funny thing is that Mister Tom believes his own bullshit. Here’s a real good American Christian for you.
April 4th, 2006 at 11:56 amHey, let’s move the ‘lection to April 15. All those congresscritters will change their tune.
back to the skids. murka is free!
Hecks becks, time to start another war.
Delay is a leech if there ever was one. Pour salt on him.
April 4th, 2006 at 12:00 pmBack on topic please. Let’s not get distracted.
Solitaire you are exactly right. This is how the GOP pushes their true agenda under the cloak of the religious right, Reed etc… And the religious wackos not only raises money for the party tax exempt – but they get to provide an ulterior motive for the GOP when the push corrupt agendeas and line their partys pockets.
Take the pro gambling bill, oops I mean take the so called anti-gambling bill, heading to a hearing tomorrow in the house. Rep. Goodlatte and others claim they are going to ban online gambling. Why then does the bill expand the fantasy gaming empire or online horseracing industry or former Abramoff clients? Oh that’s right because the horseracing industry etc gives $$$$$ to Republicans and not a dime to Dems.
Great. Glad we are dealing with a completely new GOP leadership. 2006 here we come!
April 4th, 2006 at 12:04 pmcrooksandliars is having fun with delay video from the vault…
April 4th, 2006 at 12:07 pmJack
Here is how you do it. Go out, and read the manifestos of the other parties, find out about the candidates who aren’t Democrats or Republicans, and vote for the one you agree with. If you believe the Democrats and the Republicans to be corrupt, neither should be running your country.
There are other alternatives, find out about them, and vote for them. If enough Americans take this approach, you will see change for the better such that you have never seen before.
Don’t vote Democrat just because you don’t want to weaken the opposition and never dismiss the power of your vote.
April 4th, 2006 at 12:10 pm[...] For if the Democrats, once they get over their unbelievable collective hangover from the “let’s celebrate Delay’s termination†party tomorrow, know what’s best, they’ll make this into a larger issue. They’ll make sure that Delay’s resignation catalyzes an overarching condemnation of the corrupt culture that he and other Republicans have instituted. Attacking Delay now is fruitless, and the celebration should be short, because this is an open door which will be closed and overshadowed tomorrow by some newer piece of media. Delay has given up, and until just earlier this year, this man was the leader of the culture that so proudly lauds in his valedictory address. It doesn’t take much to reasoning to conclude that the entire structure is corrupt, and that it needs reform. [...]
April 4th, 2006 at 12:31 pmJust so as to point something out to the Republican supporters…
Must be kinda difficult to deny K Street as a purely Republican scandal now hey?
April 4th, 2006 at 12:33 pm[...] The remarks he made in Time indicate a thirst for power that is as absolute and all consuming as one can imagine. Not sure if it’s a Napoleonic complex or small-penis syndrome, but either way the guy’s got some deep rooted issues. [...]
April 4th, 2006 at 12:34 pmWell, one shouldn’t pile on just because a troll makes one (one???) incredibly inane statement that doesn’t even make sense from the perspective of his own “cultural conservative” values. But the heck with it:
Oh please please please please please PLEEEEEEEEAAAAASE run Rudy.
Please.
April 4th, 2006 at 12:34 pmDeLay brags of building lobbyist empire…
“I might be gone, but the culture of corruption I built lives on. Yee-ha!”…
April 4th, 2006 at 12:34 pm[...] Think Progress notices that Delay seems proud to have built the culture of corruption that now afflicts Washington. Um…this guy was Speaker of the House? Great job, GOP. [...]
April 4th, 2006 at 12:47 pm#43
“If she was a white woman name Harris would you still call her a bitch?”
Absolutely! Don’t try and play the race card here.
“I see this case in a light similar to the London tube shooting last year.”
Not even close! Nice try though.
McKinney, according to multiple witnesses, not just the other guards, was told to stop by the officers and she refused. It’s pretty cut and dry. Not obeying a direct order by the police is at least a misdemenor.
“Lets blow away the smoke screen and get back to discussing just how corrupt the republican party is on a nationally organized scale”
The Democrats are no different. The Democrats control New Jersey…the most politically corrupt state in America.
http://www.nationalreview.com/geraghty/geraghty200408130813.asp
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/7/221332/3290
April 4th, 2006 at 1:23 pmThat’s right, just keep on talking, ‘Lippy’, because anything you say CAN and WILL be used against you in a court of law. Your “pride” goeth before your fall. It couldn’t happen to a “nicer” guy! Bon Voyage!
April 4th, 2006 at 2:19 pm“McKinney, according to multiple witnesses, not just the other guards, was told to stop by the officers and she refused. It’s pretty cut and dry. Not obeying a direct order by the police is at least a misdemenor. Tracy”
So is racial profiling, and harrassing a WELL KNOWN member of congress who is where they are supposed to be.
April 4th, 2006 at 2:37 pm“McKinney, according to multiple witnesses, not just the other guards, was told to stop by the officers and she refused. It’s pretty cut and dry. Not obeying a direct order by the police is at least a misdemenor. Tracy”
You obviously haven’t been in Texas or Ohio lately. What a moron.
April 4th, 2006 at 2:38 pm– Republican K Street Project … When we took over in 1995, the K Street contributions to elections was 70/30—70 percent Democrat, 30 percent Republican. Today it’s 60/40—60 percent Republican and 40 percent Republican. That’s a change in culture. –
CAN YOU POST A LIST OF WHAT CORPORATIONS DONATED HOW MUCH TO THE GOP??
April 4th, 2006 at 3:02 pmWatched his interview. You have to have a special kind of arrogance to say judge me in 20 years. I don’t think Jefferson and Lincoln had that as their core reasoning for doing things. Delay and the rest are slimy, pasty, little evil people.
April 4th, 2006 at 3:34 pmIt appears that one way or another, Delay will be judged well short of a year.
April 4th, 2006 at 3:42 pm#59
The officer told her to stop, multiple times. This wasn’t racial profiling or harassment. With her new hair style (yikes!), it’s very reasonable to ask her to stop and identify herself and on top of the fact she was too absent minded to wear her lapel pin.
April 4th, 2006 at 3:56 pm#64 – And we should just take your word for this because?????
I’ve yet to hear any “other” official story about the incident. So far, it’s been “she said, he said”.
Now, this all relates to the indictment and upcoming resignation of Rep. DeLay, how???
Are you just trying to change the subject by brining up unrelated news?
Sounds like a partisan tactic is there ever was one.
Lastly, you seem to not respect the office at your whim. I’ve always given the respect to the office, even if I disagreed with the person holding the office. Looks like the “partisan lack of respect” is rearing it’s ugly head in your posts, Tracy.
April 4th, 2006 at 4:07 pmThere’s an old saying from somewhere – the Good Book, I believe – that describes in the simplest yet most perfect way the kind of scenario we Americans are dealing with these days.
“The love of money is the root of all evil.”
It goes without saying that there are a lot of people in office these days that absolutely love money. It’s nothing new, I know. It’s a long-running trend of ever worsening corruption and what is now considered by many to be the profound and absolute putrification of the American political process. There’s a good reason so much faith in the ballot box has been lost from the people of this once fine country. A vote is only as good as the note of legal tender it’s written on now.
The love of money is a scourge, an abominable plague brought upon the leaders of this country and spread among themselves without abandon. To carry this disease of the heart and mind is likened to a badge of honor, as we can now clearly see thanks to DeLay and his antics in office. However, I see that many of us are afflicted as well, not by greed, but by the maladies of wrath and pride. We mustn’t forget that all politicians are human, and therefore they are all subject to the same forms of sin. We can see now that the entire system has been broken for some time regardless of the ruling party. If anything, the powers that be are using our divisive political nature against us to create smokescreen after smokescreen to shield our eyes from the truth of their corruption, and as long as we remain divided and refuse to unite against our foes in office, or worse yet, support them for their party alone, they will continue to do as they have and sell this country piecemeal to the highest bidders.
No one party here in America is a party of saints. The Republican party at large, with their so-called conservative rightist values and their near-fanatical support of Christianity, has proven to be every bit as godless as the Democrats they condem. Meanwhile, what have the spineless sheep in wolves’ clothing sitting on the left been doing to further the Democratic party’s cause? Not much, and as we can see in places like New Jersey, as another reader pointed out, they’re up to the very same tricks that have brought infamy to the Republican party in recent weeks and months. It’s a no-win situation for us citizens, and with leaders like these, who needs enemies? With the help of the self-corrupting political system that both parties have helped to bring into existance, they’re doing an excellent job of destroying this country and its core values, one dollar at a time.
That’s not to say that all politicians are bad, of course. There are still some good people out there, but the problem seems to be that they have the hardest time winding up where we need them. Perhaps our votes still mean something, though, and I know our money certainly means just as much if not more. What we are witnessing here is a brief moment of vulnerability in the system. Years of lies, bribes, and corruption are being revealed right before our very eyes. Let’s set aside our differences and our party affiliations, shall we? We all know this is very, very wrong, regardless of whether we happen to be Democrats or Republicans, or even independents like myself. I think that we can all agree that these living monuments to greed and downright dirty politics need to be struck down and brought to justice. Write letters to your representatives and support efforts to remove these people from office. Group together and make your presence known, and say out loud, “No,” to these moneymongering scumbags that control our country!
April 4th, 2006 at 4:09 pm#60
Considering I live in Dallas…yeah I have seen in depth media coverage of people not obeying police officers…especially those camped out in ditch outside Crawford. As for Ohio here is a typical example…
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041019/NEWS09/410190343
BTW when are you going to provide some evidence….
“Air America programs hosted by Al Franken and Randi Rhodes have outperformed their conservative rivals Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly among adults between the ages of 25 and 54, a key demographic for advertisers.”
April 4th, 2006 at 4:13 pm“Considering I live in Dallas…yeah I have seen in depth media coverage of people not obeying police officers… Tracy”
You mean like Tom Delay who ‘negotiated’ for his mug shot, after having acted like a ‘gansta’ robbing your state?
Yeah, I’m sure you are familiar with law breakers, but apparently you idolize them as though they’re Gansta Ghetto Heroes.
April 4th, 2006 at 4:31 pm#67 – “In New York City, Air America’s flagship station WLIB ranks 24th of 43 measured stations in the New York market with a 1.4 rating, behind competing talk stations WABC (ranked 10th with a 3.4 rating) and WOR (ranked 20th with a 2.1 rating), [9] though Air America programs hosted by Al Franken and Randi Rhodes have outperformed their conservative rivals Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly among adults between the ages of 25 and 54, a key demographic for advertisers. [10]
Nationwide, however, conservatives continue to dominate political talk radio, benefitting from greater name recognition and a much larger networks of stations. For example, Rush Limbaugh, the most popular talk radio host in the United States, averages a cumulative weekly audience (”cume”) of about 13.75 million listeners on more than 500 stations nationwide, [11] whereas the Air America network as a whole reported a cume of 3.1 million listeners over 67 stations for the spring 2005 ratings period. [12] (Air America Radio has added more than 20 new affiliate stations since then, however, so the network’s cumulative audience has almost certainly grown significantly since spring 2005.)
A daily podcast of The Al Franken Show was offered for download for a period in 2005 from Apple Computer’s iTunes website, where it consistently appeared in the list of the most popular podcasts downloaded each day.
For more ratings information, see the listings at Radio and Records, and search by call letter within the specific markets. Alternatively, go directly to the Arbitron website for this data: [13]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_Radio
Now, knowing that you’re living in Dallas, turn in to AM 950. You’ll get a breath of fresh air to counteract the calumny and mendacity of Rush Limbaugh.
In Austin, Air America plays on 1600 AM.
Now, before you start to gush about how Rush Limbaugh is outperforming Air America, ask yourself three questions: How long has he had to spread his “message” on the radio compared to Air America? What were his ratings in his first two years on the radio? What ever happened to his television show?
I’ll answer number 3 for you: it bombed faster than Pres. Bush bombed Iraq.
April 4th, 2006 at 4:32 pmTracy,
Since you’re from Texas, you’ll understand that maybe the guards didn’t recognize her because she wasn’t being dragged in chains behind a pickup truck? Isn’t that what you crackers like to do to uppity black folks?
April 4th, 2006 at 4:33 pm#69
Oh, I thought Ryan was talking about nation wide demographics. He shouldn’t have left that very important piece of information out when he made the claim. New York is but a small corner of the U.S. and that one station you mentioned is one of hundreds across the nation.
“Now, knowing that you’re living in Dallas, turn in to AM 950. You’ll get a breath of fresh air to counteract the calumny and mendacity of Rush Limbaugh.”
Uh, that would be AM 910 and yes I do listen on occasion to the Randi Rhodes show. She is on from 4-8p p.m. CST. and when I listen I constantly need to roll down the windows as I am driving home. Considering Jerry Springer is also on Air America radio (LOL!), that right there tells alot about the entire Air America program. The main thing that amazes me about Air America is that when the hosts try to be funny or when they play their lame little skits you have to have a really dry sense of humor it order to get a chuckle.
FYI Sean Hannity was syndicated in 2001 and he’s way beyond any of Air America’s hosts.
How long has he had to spread his “message†on the radio compared to Air America?
His syndicated show will be comming on 20 years. Must be doing something right considering to get syndicated you have to have good ratings.
“What were his ratings in his first two years on the radio?”
As a syndicated talk show host? Much higher than any of the Air America talk show hosts that were on the radio way before Air America started. Randi Rhodes has been on talk radio since the late 1980s and her show is STILL not syndicated (I think).
“What ever happened to his television show?”
It was on from 1992-1996, i.e. five years., so your assertion that it “bombed” quick is inaccurate, a lie, or both. If Al Frankin ever gets his own television show, that will be a bigger miracle than when Jesus walked on water.
April 4th, 2006 at 5:54 pm#70
“Isn’t that what you crackers like to do to uppity black folks?”
An ignorant bigot I see you are.
April 4th, 2006 at 5:59 pmThe Democrats are no different. The Democrats control New Jersey…the most politically corrupt state in America.
Comment by Tracy — April 4, 2006 @ 1:23 pm
Obviously you know very little about Ernie Fletcher, the governer of Kentucky who PARDONED 15 members of his cabinet and is tryibg to appiont judges who contributed directally to his campaign in the upcoming hearings about the ongoing investigations into HIS CORRUPT adminmistration…….
April 4th, 2006 at 9:18 pm#73
I never brought up Ernie Fletcher…you did. As long as we are clear that neither the Democrats OR the Republicans are saints. The fact that New Jersey is the most politically corrupt state in the U.S. makes the Democrats just as foulable.
April 4th, 2006 at 10:52 pm#74
“Air America programs hosted by Al Franken and Randi Rhodes have outperformed their conservative rivals Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly among adults between the ages of 25 and 54, a key demographic for advertisers.”
ONLY in New York. Did you even read the quote? You are going from LOL funny to annoying…real quick.
“I guess the 14 year old crowd (obviously the one you belong to) still prefer the lies of pappa bear – but the rest of america says you’re an idiot.”
Considering you use that word quite a bit you are far better suited to it.
“Reportedly, Limbaugh ended the show due to disappointment that it was aired too late in the evening in many markets”
Again after 5 years on the air and the imense prep time it takes to do a TV show, it was getting to be a waste of his time.
“I guess you never saw saturday night live – Al has talent, something you wouldn’t understand.”
Just because Al Frankin was on Saturday Night Live doesn’t make it HIS show. He was just another commedian on that show that should have stayed there….he was actually funny when he read from a script. It’s telling that a comdian would actually have the audacity to think that anyone would take his political commentary seriously…when NO ONE really does.
“Air america is launching an ENTIRE NETWORK, not just a single headliner.”
And with ALL of that so-called “talent” they haven’t even begun to approach Rush OR Hannity…all by themselves.
“But despite what IDIOTS like you think, they’re profitable,…”
Oh no they are not! Educate yourself.
http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2005/09/franken-drobny-air-america-all-caught.html
WLIB to drop Air America…didn’t that use to be their “flag-ship” station?
http://www.nysun.com/article/28658
Gary Krantz, president of Air America Radio:
“Most importantly, we have a dedicated board and investors who support our business.”
That would be all of those wealth billionaires like George Soros who keep Air America afloat as noted here…
http://newsbusters.org/node/4196
April 4th, 2006 at 11:33 pm#78 Ryan:I concur.
April 5th, 2006 at 1:59 amI never brought up Ernie Fletcher…you did. As long as we are clear that neither the Democrats OR the Republicans are saints. The fact that New Jersey is the most politically corrupt state in the U.S. makes the Democrats just as foulable.
Comment by Tracy — April 4, 2006 @ 10:52 pm
Since The governer of the State HAS to pardon a large part of his staff and is fighting the Attorney General to stop the investigation the corruption is pretty rampent………You make a statement about a state but no fact to back it up, typical troll stupid and angry.
April 5th, 2006 at 3:19 amActually Tracy, it would be a damn sight better for your argument if you actually brought up what makes you say New Jersey is the most politically corrupt state in America.
I mean, you have basically made the general sweeping accusation of corruption, but you haven’t actually stated anything in support of it.
Further, like I keep on saying, if you believe both parties to be corrupt, vote for somebody else. It isn’t like corruption is made any more acceptable because the other guy did it too. “The other guy doing it too” smacks of a four year old whining about getting caught misbehaving.
April 5th, 2006 at 4:00 am#78
TP is a TABLOID to the Nth Degree and is no more or less accurate that those sites I mentioned.
“Had it ever dawned on you that maybe they were re-negotiating the deal at WLIB because of the HIGH RATINGS?”
They are re-negotiating and REFORMATTING because of their bad ratings. Rush is on WABC and he is ranked #8 in NY and #1 in talk radio. WLIB is #24 in NY and #3 in talk radio, i.e. LAST.
http://www.nyradioguide.com/ratings.htm
I do believe that Mike Malloy is now off the air on WLIB. Why is that?
http://www.mikemalloy.com/listen.html
“Air america went from basically 0 liberal radio stations to 90 in 2 years.”
Rush was on 56 stations in his first year of syndicated broadcasting….alone.
“Sorry, but these reichwing hacks don’t have ‘talent’, they have ‘access’ from corporate masters that want to promote their own values. Nothing more.”
Well that’s a undefendable assumption.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:25 pm#80
http://www.nj.com/corruption/stories/index.ssf?/corruption/stories/rogues_gallery.html
If you want more I will be happy to provide it.
April 5th, 2006 at 12:42 pmTracy — April 5, 2006: Thanks for the link as I really enjoyed it. If you have others, please post them.
DeLay’s bragging is full of interesting tidbits, that’s if you can get past the anger that lays on the surface. He seems to be talking a lot right now and that’s good because we can learn what else has been happening.
I was in a family for more than 26 years who joined Organized Crime, but this wasn’t any ordinary Organized Crime system. They called it “The World’s Largest Criminal System†and rightfully so. Having many criminal function facets, the most interesting is the Very Wide Scale Political Coruption System. It extends from my local area up through our largest city of Chicago on up through the State Government and up into the most top part of our Federal Government. I could tell you many experiences but just accept that they called it “The World’s Largest†for good reason! An interesting statistic is from what I know, out of every 10 Politicians involved, 3 are Democrats and 7 are Republicans, so this isn’t ONLY a Republican crime system.
The sleaze, pay to play and other schemes are all part of how they do their business. But what many don’t know is where does the corruption money go? The Corruption Laundromats haven’t surfaced yet, but they are out there waiting for their curtain call, I’m sure. The largest that I’m aware of is called “Mandarin Oriental Group†which the Tribune breifly probed and found suspicious MOB ties. Hey, wait a minute! Isn’t Mandarin owned by Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum who owns Dubai? I have links if needed!
My life’s experience in this crosses multiple times with GusBoulis/Abramoff, MOB, Rosemont Il, Former IL Gov Big Jim Thompson, Former IL Gov Ryan (currently on trial) and many many more. To be honest with you, with what is coming up ahead, you better have seatbelts on your computer chair!
Corruption is ONLY one little part of what this is. Considering that I’ve said this is called “The World’s Largest Criminal System†then add that “Corruption is one little part of what this isâ€, should offer some insight with how huge and involved this is. It also extends beyond our shores. Better get that seatbelt installed quick!
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