Comments on: The Architects of War: Where Are They Now? http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:01:31 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: nullB J Stevens http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1974267 nullB J Stevens Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:59:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1974267 <strong>I'm at my witts end. My personal conclusions to this six year debacle ,are that, if the United States constitution were an authentic doucument; the real thing, then the american people would have put a stop to this nonsense by now. How near hoodlums are allowed to wrecklessly besmirch our reputation,and to continue to act as if we the people exist only to serve them...you want to show the world how democracy should work???one word...IMPEACHMENT; and hopefully followed by conviction of all involved</strong> I’m at my witts end. My personal conclusions to this six year debacle ,are that, if the United States constitution were an authentic doucument; the real thing, then the american people would have put a stop to this nonsense by now. How near hoodlums are allowed to wrecklessly besmirch our reputation,and to continue to act as if we the people exist only to serve them…you want to show the world how democracy should work???one word…IMPEACHMENT; and hopefully followed by conviction of all involved

]]> By: Raquel Stark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1854004 Raquel Stark Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:59:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1854004 AWESOME REPORT! Thank you so much for the info. AWESOME REPORT! Thank you so much for the info.

]]> By: BulletBob http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1842091 BulletBob Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:49:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1842091 You people are the real fools. Playing right into the hands of the enemy. Yes, 3,000+ soldiers have been killed in Iraq but 40 times that have been murdered in the US over the same time period. 400+ each year in Philadelphia, Los Angeles and DC alone! Yet no coverage of that. When we pull out of Iraq there will be seven figures of people killed - but since it won't be on TV every night it won't 'really' be happening. Same as post-Vietnam. Great we pulled out but more than a million we killed after we did. No matter the Liberal consciences will be clear so everything will be wonderful and happy. We are going the way of all decaying civilizations losing the will to fight. These people have explicitly said they want to wipe us off the face of the map. Isn't that clear enough for you? You people are the real fools. Playing right into the hands of the enemy. Yes, 3,000+ soldiers have been killed in Iraq but 40 times that have been murdered in the US over the same time period. 400+ each year in Philadelphia, Los Angeles and DC alone! Yet no coverage of that. When we pull out of Iraq there will be seven figures of people killed – but since it won’t be on TV every night it won’t ‘really’ be happening. Same as post-Vietnam. Great we pulled out but more than a million we killed after we did. No matter the Liberal consciences will be clear so everything will be wonderful and happy. We are going the way of all decaying civilizations losing the will to fight. These people have explicitly said they want to wipe us off the face of the map. Isn’t that clear enough for you?

]]> By: Blake Smith http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1787313 Blake Smith Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:29:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1787313 This list of men all need to swing from the strongest rose garden tree. Or just take them to the same gallows that Sadom hung from as they are no worse then he. This list of men all need to swing from the strongest rose garden tree. Or just take them to the same gallows that Sadom hung from as they are no worse then he.

]]> By: Bruce http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1743844 Bruce Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:31:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1743844 What I see, is a country that is at war with it's self, of which there is a definite Good and Evil Battle Line. We committed ourselves to solve this problem, but half heartedly. And because of this we have lost much of our respect around the world. What to do now? If we pull out now, not only will we lose our troops in vein, but we will abandon any hope of Iraq being at peace for sometime if at all. I think we should take total control Iraq, have them live under our laws,(which are not over bearing). As it is now the major factions there are fighting and killing one another for control of their government. In this way we would set a new goverment of which all factions could precipitate as equal. Allowing them the same freedoms we have as well as the same punishments we have for breaking the law. The slaughter of human life must be stopped in Iraq and I believe this can be done.but, not by the United States getting out, rather taking control by what ever means. Is it so hard to see that the United States in allowing Iraq to try and run it's government and country as is, is not helping at all ! All Iraqis can prosper under our government and laws. I'm sure we would encounter resistant forces and those should be dealt with swiftly. One can not referee a dog fight and neither can the U.S. referee Iraq. We have to stay the fight, but not as a referee but as "Humane Control Officer"; taking controll, teaching control and then relinquishing Control. That's the way I see it. Bruce What I see, is a country that is at war with it’s self, of which there is a definite Good and Evil Battle Line. We committed ourselves to solve this problem, but half heartedly. And because of this we have lost much of our respect around the world.

What to do now? If we pull out now, not only will we lose our troops in vein, but we will abandon any hope of Iraq being at peace for sometime if at all. I think we should take total control Iraq, have them live under our laws,(which are not over bearing). As it is now the major factions there are fighting and killing one another for control of their government. In this way we would set a new goverment of which all factions could precipitate as equal. Allowing them the same freedoms we have as well as the same punishments we have for breaking the law.

The slaughter of human life must be stopped in Iraq and I believe this can be done.but, not by the United States getting out, rather taking control by what ever means. Is it so hard to see that the United States in allowing Iraq to try and run it’s government and country as is, is not helping at all ! All Iraqis can prosper under our government and laws. I’m sure we would encounter resistant forces and those should be dealt with swiftly. One can not referee a dog fight and neither can the U.S. referee Iraq. We have to stay the fight, but not as a referee but as “Humane Control Officer”; taking controll, teaching control and then relinquishing Control.

That’s the way I see it. Bruce

]]> By: WFAN! http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1735495 WFAN! Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:42:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1735495 Feingold is an anti-american socialist! Perfect for cheese heads...I guess? Feingold is an anti-american socialist! Perfect for cheese heads…I guess?

]]> By: laurent breach http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1725219 laurent breach Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:15:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1725219 <strong>One of the pivotal figures who should have known better and specifically looked the other way was Hillary, whose omission is as grave as any of the Neocons' actions mentioned here. Especially since she presumed to be an opposition leader. Ha! Feingold, the one true leader is, unfortunately, not running while Hillary enjoys a hefty lead. How frigging pathetic!</strong> One of the pivotal figures who should have known better and specifically looked the other way was Hillary, whose omission is as grave as any of the Neocons’ actions mentioned here. Especially since she presumed to be an opposition leader. Ha! Feingold, the one true leader is, unfortunately, not running while Hillary enjoys a hefty lead. How frigging pathetic!

]]> By: Joey_SoCal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1544111 Joey_SoCal Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:34:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1544111 The disgust defies description. If we don't <strong>revolt now</strong>, when the hell do we?!! The disgust defies description. If we don’t revolt now, when the hell do we?!!

]]> By: Safron http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1527801 Safron Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:01:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1527801 There is a very special dark place in hell for all these evil doers which includes the entire bush cabinet, their neocon supporters, most of the republican party and the project for a new american century. These are the real terrorists who have been working feveroushly to hijak our nation in violoation of their oaths to this nation and it's constitution. It must be difficult to be a republican in 2007. To do so, you have to claim to be conservative, religious, moral and half a dozen other things when deep down inside...they are just the total opposite. There is a very special dark place in hell for all these evil doers which includes the entire bush cabinet, their neocon supporters, most of the republican party and the project for a new american century. These are the real terrorists who have been working feveroushly to hijak our nation in violoation of their oaths to this nation and it’s constitution. It must be difficult to be a republican in 2007. To do so, you have to claim to be conservative, religious, moral and half a dozen other things when deep down inside…they are just the total opposite.

]]> By: nullotto prante http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1479203 nullotto prante Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:06:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1479203 What about Kennedy,Kerry,Rockefeller,Gore,Klinton, they made Speeches saying that there was Weppens of mass Destruction and we needet to something about it. They were in favor of the War and Voted to support it. Where are they now? In Denial What about Kennedy,Kerry,Rockefeller,Gore,Klinton,
they made Speeches saying that there was Weppens of mass Destruction
and we needet to something about it.
They were in favor of the War and Voted to support it.
Where are they now? In Denial

]]> By: JoeC http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1442869 JoeC Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:24:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1442869 Just a comment on comment 233: I have seen a lot of photos of Bush getting in close and "almost" kissing other people on the cheek, and in fact it's even more disturbing when it's a baby or a man, and not a woman (and probably more insulting...I know it would be for me...) So, I think it's more to do with Satan...I'm sorry, Dubya kissing someone, and less to do with it being a woman. By the way, I'd argue the pictures of the war architects when they were kids is pretty interesting, too: http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/12/17/when-they-were-young-the-bush-administration/ Just a comment on comment 233: I have seen a lot of photos of Bush getting in close and “almost” kissing other people on the cheek, and in fact it’s even more disturbing when it’s a baby or a man, and not a woman (and probably more insulting…I know it would be for me…) So, I think it’s more to do with Satan…I’m sorry, Dubya kissing someone, and less to do with it being a woman.

By the way, I’d argue the pictures of the war architects when they were kids is pretty interesting, too: http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/12/17/when-they-were-young-the-bush-administration/

]]> By: Jazzer http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1422190 Jazzer Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:22:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1422190 More of the same failed and truthless policy. I feel for our men in uniform and their families. Congress needs to slap this dude down and now. Pelosi and Reid, now is not the time to make nice! This is enough. Karl, admit the truth that the answer to this violence is an iraqi one and that our presence there is just pissing off a lot of people. W got what he wanted, "Sadamms dead daddy!" lets send Rush, O'Really, Savage and that creep Hanity over there, shall we? it is easy for these guys to agree to throw more bodies on the pile, long as it's not theirs. And oh yes, we don't get to keep the oil. It doesn't belong to us, it never did and never will. More of the same failed and truthless policy. I feel for our men in uniform and their families. Congress needs to slap this dude down and now. Pelosi and Reid, now is not the time to make nice! This is enough. Karl, admit the truth that the answer to this violence is an iraqi one and that our presence there is just pissing off a lot of people. W got what he wanted, “Sadamms dead daddy!” lets send Rush, O’Really, Savage and that creep Hanity over there, shall we? it is easy for these guys to agree to throw more bodies on the pile, long as it’s not theirs. And oh yes, we don’t get to keep the oil. It doesn’t belong to us, it never did and never will.

]]> By: tom http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1412453 tom Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:38:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1412453 <strong>This is the perfect indictment to begin the Congressional inquiry and ultimate impeachment for these lying, sorry bastards.</strong> This is the perfect indictment to begin the Congressional inquiry and ultimate impeachment for these lying, sorry bastards.

]]> By: Ron http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1398423 Ron Sun, 07 Jan 2007 00:41:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1398423 Left over from the Reagan years are Cheney, Rumsfeld, Neoplote crated Sudamm Hussin Oilver North betrayed Sudamm Hussin Iran contra program from the CIA Bush senior told Sudamm Hussin to mind his own business Bush joined in to take Sudamm down Where are the files and traps that each set for the other? That would be interesting I bet Sudamm Hussin has hidden files to expose what Reagan administration did Cheney is in charge of making sure it does not surface Just watch the rotation of people and chairs Left over from the Reagan years are

Cheney, Rumsfeld, Neoplote crated Sudamm Hussin

Oilver North betrayed Sudamm Hussin Iran contra program from the CIA

Bush senior told Sudamm Hussin to mind his own business

Bush joined in to take Sudamm down

Where are the files and traps that each set for the other? That would be interesting

I bet Sudamm Hussin has hidden files to expose what Reagan administration did

Cheney is in charge of making sure it does not surface

Just watch the rotation of people and chairs

]]> By: dan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1395698 dan Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:01:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1395698 these people have broken international law and laws of mortality--they should all be in a jail these people have broken international law and laws of mortality–they should all be in a jail

]]> By: Dave Jagermeister http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1392812 Dave Jagermeister Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:59:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1392812 It is like a comedy of very deadly errors so deadly that we are viewed by everyone except the tone deaf friends we have as aggressors and to think that all these war trumpeteers never served in combat , and God help us cant even shoot straight without botching it with friendly fire ( can you say Cheney ) but are quick to use other peoples children is so pathetically infuriating ..........As for people who argue Ok Ok we are there now ...we have to finish what we started ......I say poppycock why should we stay to finish what the morons started and why should other people die for the conviction of ideological war profiteers .............SAD SAD SAD ........... It is like a comedy of very deadly errors so deadly that we are viewed by everyone except the tone deaf friends we have as aggressors and to think that all these war trumpeteers never served in combat , and God help us cant even shoot straight without botching it with friendly fire ( can you say Cheney ) but are quick to use other peoples children is so pathetically infuriating ……….As for people who argue Ok Ok we are there now …we have to finish what we started ……I say poppycock why should we stay to finish what the morons started and why should other people die for the conviction of ideological war profiteers ………….SAD SAD SAD ………..

]]> By: Graham Giblin http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1390236 Graham Giblin Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:56:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1390236 Breathtaking arrogance. The swagger of people who know not only that they will never be held to account but that they can continue to plunder the system with impunity. It has the smell of one of those cheap gang/mob/bikie movies. Or Enron. Is it really impossible that they will ever be tried or impeached? Breathtaking arrogance. The swagger of people who know not only that they will never be held to account but that they can continue to plunder the system with impunity.
It has the smell of one of those cheap gang/mob/bikie movies. Or Enron.
Is it really impossible that they will ever be tried or impeached?

]]> By: sawsan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1316154 sawsan Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:13:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1316154 Very interesting. All people here in the middle east knew since these people were elected that Bush Jr. will finish the job his father did not finish. We also know for sure that their aim is to create a so called (CREATIVE CAOS) which means that all countries surrounding Israel has to be either cut into small ethnic pieces and indulged into religious war between sunni and shiits which was never ever before and between muslims and christians, so that the they can control us in every aspect of our lives. What is funny, that they call us (TERRORISTS), I really wonder who is the real terrorist here in this case , people in this region are so tired of wars , I have for the past 46 years of my life lived in this caos, is this not enough , we are people who just want to live in peace as normal as any american citizen likes to live , is this too much to ask for, if it is for oil well, I wish that Bush gets all his oil shoved in his ass , he can even drink as much of it as he wants, and leave us all here in this nice part of the world. I would like to express gratitude for this nice and truthful site, which is so interesting in focusing on the truth, maybe you people if you were in-office may the face of the world would be a nicer place to live on. American people should be more aware of whom they ellect to represent them, because i am sure that most of Americans dont know exactly what is going on, you are told what they want you to know Very interesting. All people here in the middle east knew since these people were elected that Bush Jr. will finish the job his father did not finish. We also know for sure that their aim is to create a so called (CREATIVE CAOS) which means that all countries surrounding Israel has to be either cut into small ethnic pieces and indulged into religious war between sunni and shiits which was never ever before and between muslims and christians, so that the they can control us in every aspect of our lives. What is funny, that they call us (TERRORISTS), I really wonder who is the real terrorist here in this case , people in this region are so tired of wars , I have for the past 46 years of my life lived in this caos, is this not enough , we are people who just want to live in peace as normal as any american citizen likes to live , is this too much to ask for, if it is for oil well, I wish that Bush gets all his oil shoved in his ass , he can even drink as much of it as he wants, and leave us all here in this nice part of the world.
I would like to express gratitude for this nice and truthful site, which is so interesting in focusing on the truth, maybe you people if you were in-office may the face of the world would be a nicer place to live on. American people should be more aware of whom they ellect to represent them, because i am sure that most of Americans dont know exactly what is going on, you are told what they want you to know

]]> By: Joe Galatha http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1300791 Joe Galatha Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:51:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1300791 At the end of the day, all Americans have to face the reality that we can not blame these dishonest and traitorous lunatics on anyone but ourselves. This was not a military coup, this is not a Stalinist dictatorship that rules by weaponry or force of death upon it's own people. We use the most powerful military in the world to promote democracy, and this was what we did with ours. Wow. In Ukraine, the election was overturned based on exit polls. In the country that claims to be the model for free press, the exit polls were simply dismissed by the media as wrong. Face it America, we are one of the few countries in the history of the world to have been given the power of our own will to legitimately stand in the way of sick people who rule by fear and deception. Sadly, enough people in this country swallowed the lies, succumed to the fear, and have been to ashamed of their mistake to throw these people out on their ass and get our country back. I had a thought about the impeachment of Clinton by the pious people who could believe they had somehow punished someone actually evil; they could do so without there being any consequences to the country as a result of the actual crime he was punished for. Now, when there is true misery being poured on this country and it's reputation in the world that will last for generations to come, we don't have the courage to throw out the real criminals because we can't admit we let them have the power in the first place. I am tired of being labelled part of the "Blame America First" crowd, because I find no shame in admitting we have done wrong; I find that title far less disparaging that the "Never blame America no matter what we do" crowd, who is making us look like blind, hypocritical fools. At the end of the day, all Americans have to face the reality that we can not blame these dishonest and traitorous lunatics on anyone but ourselves. This was not a military coup, this is not a Stalinist dictatorship that rules by weaponry or force of death upon it’s own people. We use the most powerful military in the world to promote democracy, and this was what we did with ours.

Wow.

In Ukraine, the election was overturned based on exit polls. In the country that claims to be the model for free press, the exit polls were simply dismissed by the media as wrong.

Face it America, we are one of the few countries in the history of the world to have been given the power of our own will to legitimately stand in the way of sick people who rule by fear and deception. Sadly, enough people in this country swallowed the lies, succumed to the fear, and have been to ashamed of their mistake to throw these people out on their ass and get our country back.

I had a thought about the impeachment of Clinton by the pious people who could believe they had somehow punished someone actually evil; they could do so without there being any consequences to the country as a result of the actual crime he was punished for. Now, when there is true misery being poured on this country and it’s reputation in the world that will last for generations to come, we don’t have the courage to throw out the real criminals because we can’t admit we let them have the power in the first place.

I am tired of being labelled part of the “Blame America First” crowd, because I find no shame in admitting we have done wrong; I find that title far less disparaging that the “Never blame America no matter what we do” crowd, who is making us look like blind, hypocritical fools.

]]> By: JC http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/comment-page-5/#comment-1295938 JC Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:50:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/05/architects-of-war/#comment-1295938 This country needs Bush and Cheney to resign...then Nancy & Teddy can lead this country to its true destiny. This country needs Bush and Cheney to resign…then Nancy & Teddy can lead this country to its true destiny.

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