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Big Oil to Congress: Please Share This Misinformation With Your Constituents»

After two difficult weeks of work, Congress will recess this afternoon for two more weeks off. Knowing members will return home to face constituents alarmed about gas prices that may top $3.00 per gallon during summer vacation time, Big Oil took the opportunity this morning to pass along some misinformation to Congress about why it is not responsible for hig gas prices.

Notwithstanding oil companies’ record profits, the real culprit of high gas prices, according to this morning’s letter to every member of Congress, is ethanol:

[Refiners] face complicated challenges in switching to ethanol, which has numerous logistical difficulties in its transport. Unlike MTBE, ethanol cannot be shipped through pipelines. Ethanol is also currently more expensive than gasoline, and imports face a 54 cent per gallon tariff.

These factors place further pressure on a gasoline marketplace in which demand is already chasing an increasingly tight supply.

So, be prepared when your local MSM starts touting the oil company line that ethanol — a fuel additive grown in America by American farmers and that reduces greenhouse gas emissions from cars by 20% — is the reason you are paying $3.00 a gallon. It’s not true.

1) Oil companies are switching to ethanol by choice. The latest energy bill included no provisions banning the use of MTBE. But because MTBE makers “were not granted the liability protection they wanted in the energy bill, they are abandoning MTBE sooner rather than later.”

2) Ethanol will actually make fueling our cars far less expensive. Within ten years, we could produce biofuels at costs equal to between $0.59 and $0.91 per gallon of gasoline, and $0.86 per gallon of diesel.

3) Global warming is a security threat now, and ethanol will be a critical tool to set America free from imported oil while dramatically reducing our amount of greenhouse gas emissions.

It’s bad enough that Big Oil spreads its misinformation in Washington. Let’s stop the spin there.

– Denis McDonough




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60 Responses to “Big Oil to Congress: Please Share This Misinformation With Your Constituents”

  1. konopelli Says:

    Nationalize the muthertfockerz…
    that should start to solve the problems…
    .


  2. unbelievable Says:

    The more Ethanol in the tank means less room for gasoline. It’s all about wanting more for these greedy pigs. Let’s just use all Ethanol and cut them out of the fuel loop entirely.


  3. piltdown Says:

    I agree. Time to nationalize the oil companies that operate in the US.


  4. piltdown Says:

    I agree. Time to nationalize the oil companies that operate in the US.Oh, and don’t forget health care!


  5. Jules Says:

    What the hell does the difficulties with Ethanol have to do with record profits?

    These people can spin anything can’t they!


  6. Cyra Brown Says:

    I call BULLSH*T!!! As long as these jerkoffs are continuing to rake in those “record profits”, while the price of gasoline continues to climb, one has to ask, if it’s so expensive for YOU to produce and transport Ethanol, where in the HELL are your record profits coming from?!?

    It’s not that I think they’re being dishonest, I KNOW THAT THEY ARE!!!


  7. cousin benny Says:

    Nationalize? Are you all a bunch of commies?

    I keed I keed. They will never allow that to happen. Too many people making too much money.

    I just wish that the general public knew the amount of corporate welfare that is going on. I mean the most profitable companies are getting subsidized out the fucking wazoo and all the media reports about is how immigants are “takin’ our jobs” and how “welfare queens” are ruining america.

    END CORPORATE WELFARE.

    If these mutherfuckers really believed in the free market, then why should oil companies get subsidized?


  8. Jack Says:

    Since Washington is where the laws get created, and now the law makers have heard one side, the corporations’, who present the other sides and do the law makers listen?

    Those that have power because of oil will do unspeakable things to keep the status quo.


  9. ann Says:

    The Bush tax cuts were all about people and businesses having money to invest in infrastructure and capital. Seems to me that investing in technology to switch to ethanol should be covered by their windfall profits.


  10. big papa Says:

    The TRAITOR Bushiva came into office talking down the “new money” technology driven/supported economy and stock market…

    …to drive down investment in/prices of tech stocks

    …then started a war to…

    reinvigorate the sagging, underperforming “old money” oil, gas and defense sector stocks

    …this government KNOWS about the South American countries like Brazil’s total independence from foreign oil

    because of their sugar cane based alternative fuel…

    …the same could be done here in America but…

    …your oil gods won’t let you…


  11. David Says:

    Why, those guys sound like they need a(nother) big tax cut!! After all, it’s your their money.


  12. Gerald Gibson Says:

    Nationalize? Are you all a bunch of commies?

    On history channel last night they were interviewing all these dead enders that think revelation is coming true right now ….

    One of them mentioned that because they think the antiChrist is going to be coming from Europe / the United Nations to remove all world soveriegnty that is why evangelicals are nationalistic….. If they are so “nationalist” then why is it they support capitalists which are NOT nationalistic and want NOTHING nationalized and in fact want a “one world order” that has nothing to do with American limitations on their businesses wether it be anti-sweat shop legislation nor health care nor energy …and now a days their mercenary replacements for the U.S. soldier.


  13. David Says:

    12- Why is it Americans seem to be the only people that believe “it can’t happen here.” Of course the antiChrist would have to come from Europe or the UN, because, otherwise, that would mean Bush is the antiChrist.


  14. Jay Randal Says:

    All the criminal CEOs of the Oil Cartels should be put under arrest for swindling the American consumers! They should be given life in prison and all their assets seized! All their ships and refineries confiscated! This blatant corruption must come to an end!


  15. Gerald Gibson Says:

    12- Why is it Americans seem to be the only people that believe “it can’t happen here.” Of course the antiChrist would have to come from Europe or the UN, because, otherwise, that would mean Bush is the antiChrist.

    Comment by David

    I dont know, but it just doesnt matter, because we are not talking about logic. Progressive know it CAN happen here and what we mean is the evil can exist in any human… do repeat the mistakes of history….

    The evangelicals can take any sentance in the bible and twist it to mean anything else… if they happened to decide to like the socialist europe then they would next say that the antiChrist is coming from China…. and find some words in the bible they can twist into talking about chinese people…


  16. Jules Says:

    David - my husband says that Bush cannot be the anti-christ because he is not suave, he is not intelligent and he will not get other countries to follow his wishes.

    I still think he is!!


  17. Michdem Says:

    Don’t worry Big Oil the president and his constituents will be sorry for you they way they do the Big Three , poor poor poor Big Business .


  18. Michdem Says:

    Well that is a good point to be made about Bush being the antichrist considering he has made a mockeery of the church and has made these “churchy people ” look like complete idiots for supporting him , hence the fall of the church . Way to go church you made me a believer of revelations .


  19. wisedup Says:

    First we must get rid of the root of the problem, the OIL MAN in the whitehouse. Until then, nothing will really change.

    Big papa, your so right, I watched a film all about it.


  20. Hardy Haberman Says:

    For oil addicts this the same as what drug pushers do. Get you hooked and hike the price.

    To the oil pushers: either back off some of your predatory pricing or face nationalization when the Bush Crime Junta is ousted in a couple of years.

    To the rest of us oil addicts: demaqnd our government provide incentives for alternative energies like they did during the Carter years. Tax breaks for start up wind, solar and other energy sources. Regan gutted those as part of his legacy.


  21. Jan Says:

    They’re starting to sound like the big tobacco companies did a few years back


  22. Ben Hamilton Says:

    So, why is gas $3/gal? Is it the market? Is it Peak Oil? Both? or Something entirely different?


  23. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Mr. McDonough,

    I am afraid you rebuttal to the oil companies’ claim is poorly written.

    The oil companies claim that gas prices are climbing because Ethanol “has numerous logistical difficulties in its transport”, that it is “currently more expensive than gasoline”, and that gasoline is already in an “increasingly tight supply”.

    Your rebuttal states that
    1) “MTBE makers were not granted the liability protection they wanted in the energy bill”. This only implies that gasoline would me more expensive one way or another (legal liabilities vs Ethanol conversion) not that the claim is inaccurate.
    2) “Within ten years, we could produce biofuels at costs equal to between $0.59 and $0.91 per gallon of gasoline”. The key word here is “eventually”. Oil companies are claiming their prices are high because of Ethanol right now. Again, not a rebuttal on the current high gas prices.
    3) “Global warming is a security threat now”. I agree with this statement; any alternative energy program is a must. However, you again failed to address the claim.

    I agree that weaning the American economy from its oil dependency is a laudable goal as well as reasonable foreign policy. There is no question that Global Warming is a ongoing phenomenon and should be cause for concern. These facts, however, do not lay the oil companies’ claim to rest nor do they prove, as you state, that “it’s not true”.

    Can we expect an update where you actually refute the oil companies’ claim regarding high gas prices and shows why it is misinformation?


  24. April Says:

    I was told by my professor in my social welfare and policy course that it actually take more oil to refine ethanol, which actually emits more pollution indirectly. Screw ethanol.


  25. Zookeeper Says:

    Ethanol — $3.00+ per gallon gas — either way, I’ll be walking to work again this summer.


  26. Ryan Neat Says:

    Ethanol makes up only 5-10% of the price of a gallon of gasoline. Even if it was $5 a gallon - it would only add .10 to .20 cents a gallon to the price of gasoline. Since E85 - which is 85% ethanol is either cheaper only slightly more expensive than gasoline around the country - this is obviously another corporate ‘big lie’. This is just like all of the smoking industry spinners - it’s disgusting! They undermine the national security and the global environment for a buck. And they do so by attacking ethanol a GREEN product that very well save us from a full ecological collapse. SHAME ON THEM!


  27. Tom Krall Says:

    My understanding is the ethanol is replacing MTBE and MTBE is used to fomulate an oxygenated fuel to reduce carbon monoxide air pollution in the winter. Why are refiners claiming that ethanol is the reason for the cost increase, the winter requirement for oxygenated fuel is over. Refiners chose MTBE over ethanol because they could manufacture MBTE and control its price. Its much like the choice refiners made in adding lead, Dupont controlled the market for methyl ethyl lead and the refiners worked with Dupont to use it as an anti-knock additive even though ethanol did the same thing. In both cases an environmental problem resulted, lead in the environment and MTBE in the ground water.


  28. robert mcconnell Says:

    Well, actually, there is a lot of truth in the statement. Ethanol is no panacea, and the rules for refining gas to meet local antipollution standards are a maze. In the final analysis, if Americans weren’t addicted to SUVs we wouldn’t have this problem. End of story.


  29. Marie Says:

    This is pure crap! The oil companies are making record profits, their executives are raking in millions per year, they have friends in high places to open all the doors they want opened and grant tax favors to them, yet they will blame ethanol for the rise in prices to the consumer. How are these crooks any different from the tobacco execs who lied outright to Congress in the past? Money and power are their gods. Ethics is not in their lexicon.
    What a bunch of lying pigs.


  30. MrBlueSky Says:

    “The Great OZ has SPOKEN!
    Er… um… ahhh…
    Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.”

    Ethanol is to blame… Hey… dammit… stop looking at our financials… I don’t care that our profits have increased by 1000% over the past few years…. it’s ethanol dammit…. ETHANOL


  31. Creepy Jackelope Eye Says:

    1) Oil companies are switching to ethanol by choice. The latest energy bill included no provisions banning the use of MTBE. But because MTBE makers “were not granted the liability protection they wanted in the energy bill, they are abandoning MTBE sooner rather than later.”

    False. There are individual state bans on MTBE in California, Connecticut and New York. Differing start dates and gasoline requirements from various states, combined with a federal oxygen content requirement complicates already tight supplies.

    Of course, Mr McDonough ignores the primary reasons for higher gas prices that were clearly described by the API. Classic liberal logic.


  32. MrBlueSky Says:

    I hope our Jackalope Eye man/woman doesn’t honestly turn a blind Jackelope eye to the fact that there are two big Texas oilmen in the White House…

    I hope he or she doesn’t think a 1000% increase in profits in the Oil industry is pure coincidence.


  33. Ryan Neat Says:

    Hey JackelAss, you still missed the point that even with tarrifs ethanol is about the same price as gasoline - therefore the claim that it ‘raises costs’ is a strawman argument. In otherwords yeta another lie from someone who’s become famous here (you) for blatant lies. Goebbels would be proud of you and the rest of his reichwing fascist disciples.


  34. Ryan Neat Says:

    And Creep Jackelass - you might want to look at the commodities market http://ethanolmarket.aghost.net/ to determine that ethanol is only $2.65 a gallon. Hardly enough to drive up the cost of gasoline to $3.00 a gallon - when less than 10% of the gasoline is made up of ethanol. Where did you learn how to do math - from MightyAphroMoron? You certainly seem as incapable of doing it.


  35. Creepy Jackelope Eye Says:

    Idiot, no one is claiming that ethanol is the primary reason for higher prices except you and this lying idiot McDonough.


  36. Creepy Jackelope Eye Says:

    And your price/gallon doesn’t factor in transportation costs. Calculate that genious. Clue: It can’t be transported via pipeline.


  37. unbelievable Says:

    Ryan - Thanks for the bottomline on the numbers. Helps to know!


  38. Ryan Neat Says:

    “Idiot, no one is claiming that ethanol is the primary reason for higher prices except you and this lying idiot McDonough. Comment by Creepy Jackelope Eye”

    Except the OIL COMPANIES - was your reading comprehension always this bad, or is english a second language for you. That’s the POINT OF THIS THREAD you witless retard.

    That’s EXACTLY what the oil companies are telling congress people to tell their constituents. Duhhhh - wow you’re stupid.

    “And your price/gallon doesn’t factor in transportation costs. Calculate that genious. Clue: It can’t be transported via pipeline. Comment by Creepy Jackelope Eye ”

    Genius is definitely a term that we won’t be using to describe you.

    1) Most refineries are coastal and placed at seaports.
    2) The price of Ethanol is at SUPPLIERS, many of whom are overseas and deliver it BY TANKERS - the same way we bring in those billions of barrels of oil from Iraq.
    3) Only transportation of ethanol bought domestically is the only kind not capable of being sent by pipeline - or even where it’s relevant - and it’s a relatively small volume. I’m quite sure those Oil/Gas tankers can move that fuel quite readily as they already do for distribution of gasoline.
    4) We’re only talking about


  39. Ryan Neat Says:

    There’s a state by state breakout of ethanol usage here:

    http://www.ethanol.org/EthanolHandbook2006.pdf.pdf

    And if ‘getting’ Ethanol was such a huge problem, the supply/demand curve would have already driven up its price to $5 or $10 a gallon - based on simple economic theory. This is nothing but a load of crock from the Oil industry that they’ve pulled out of their butts because they know people like Jackelass on the right are too stupid to analyze the situation critically or intellectually. They’re just trying to secure the dumbass vote in hopes they can retain their windfall profits while america gets gouged yet again by greed and cronyism.


  40. Ryan Neat Says:

    Oh my 38 was truncated because I used the less than sign. let me finish.

    4) We’re only talking about less than 5 or less than 10 % of the fuel in most states, and once the fuel is mixed.
    5) Once fuel is mixed in coastal refineries with gasoline, it can be sent through pipelines.
    6) Only a moron would believe that ethanol is the problem with prices when the oil companies are raking in TENS OF BILLIONS in profits. It’s just stupidity.

    Which brings us the Jackelass and the other STUPID targets of their propaganda. They just want to keep their profits - and it’s easier to blame ethanol to deflect from the pressures being applied to oil companies than it is to embrace the future. Ethanol is a critical part of the SOLUTION that will free us from foreign oil and help us deal with global warming. By trying to paint ETHANOL as somehow evil, they’re hoping to make americans think it’s why thinks are bad - and therefore not have to change their business practices. It’s classic ’smoking industry’ tactics - and it’s despicable!


  41. MrBlueSky Says:

    I think I’ll just sit in the corner and sing “Peace and Love” while smoking some peyote.


  42. For Truth Says:

    #12,

    Yes I saw that in the History Channel also, I couldn’t help but think that Bush is a Dispensationalist.


  43. L.J. Abershawe Says:

    Well, unlike Jackelope who is obviously an expert on ethanol as an alternative fuel source, this article perked up my curiosity. Anyone that thinks any industrial corporation, whether supporting the usage of a non-renewable resource or the usage of a “green” fuel, isn’t going to worry about their bottom line and profit margins are completely ignorant of the corporate world. I’ve been reading several articles and studies on the usage of Ethenol. It has pros and cons. I would suggest any uninformed readers go and educate themselves on it. I started at

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel

    Seemed a good place, and it’s a worthwhile read. Of course those ignorant louts who want to just spout off the talking points of their chosen interest group, by all means spout away.


  44. Muckraked » Blog Archive » The Daily Double Says:

    […] Of course, ethanol just happens to represent a threat to the major oil companies, a fuel additive grown in America by American farmers and that reduces greenhouse gas emissions from cars by 20%, reports Think Progress. […]


  45. Electric-Escape.net Says:

    Oil Companies Blame Ethanol for High Gas Prices…

    “…and pay no attention to our record-breaking profits behind the curtain.”…


  46. Russ Says:

    From BBI International:

    http://www.bbibiofuels.com/news/view.cgi?article=435

    February 12, 2002

    U.S. DOE STUDY CONCLUDES “NO MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE BARRIERS EXIST” FOR A 5.1 BILLION GALLON PER YEAR ETHANOL MARKET

    Study Boosts Support for Renewable Fuels Standard and California Market

    WASHINGTON, DC — The Renewable Fuels Association (RFA) called attention yesterday to a new report completed for the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) on the infrastructure requirements for an expanded ethanol industry. The report found that “no major infrastructure barriers exist” for producing and using over 5 billion gallons of ethanol across the country each year.

    “This study produces empirical support for the transportation industry’s recent statements that they have the capability and the capacity to move large quantities of ethanol from coast to coast,” said Bob Dinneen, RFA president. “This report leaves no reasonable doubt that a dramatic expansion of the domestic ethanol industry can be achieved without supply disruptions or distribution problems. Whether replacing MTBE in California or meeting the demand for ethanol created by a robust renewable fuels standard (RFS), the U.S. ethanol industry can and will respond.”

    The report, Infrastructure Requirements for an Expanded Fuel Ethanol Industry, analyzed the infrastructure requirement for expanding ethanol use, including transportation, distribution and retailing issues. The study assumed ethanol production of 5.1 billion gallons per year, comparable to pending legislation establishing an RFS. According to the study, 495 terminals (58.6% of operating terminals) would offer ethanol.


  47. TJM Says:

    I don’t know if anyone noticed that in the linked article,the author noted that at $40 per ton,and sales of 200 million tons,a profit of $5.1 billion is a profit margin over 60%. Big oil margins don’t come close to that. Let’s grow some corn!


  48. Biodiesel Guy Says:

    Many short-sided authors here. High gas prices creates innovation and conservation. High profits for oil companies will be short lived as competition will eventually bring the profits down. Looks like competition–this time–may come from non-petroleum sources such as alternative fuels (biofuels, propane, LNG, etc.). This is a good thing.
    Some think that competition is being stifled by oligopolies controlled by a few oil companies controlling prices. Truth is oil companies are making profits because of the volitility of the market. The oil companies are not causing the volitility. Our addiction to oil in the face of demand outstripping supply is doing that on its own. Oil companies are simply reaping the benefits of our wasteful behavior. Don’t blame oil companies or politicians for the problem we have created. We have elected politicians over the last twenty years that would make sure that we keep getting more and more wasteful vehicles. Our average fuel economy peaked in 1982, and now resides around 20.9 for 2006 model year, which is down 1 mpg from 2005.

    We can only live in denial for so long. We can only use 25% of the world’s oil for so long while producing 9% of the supply. We’re looking for conspiracies, but they are not there. If you want something to change, change our behavior. 1. Stop unnecessarily idling your vehicle: warming up, running the A.C. in parking lots, going through drive throughs. 2. Slow down to the speed limit or lower. 65 mph instead of 75 mph will save you about 10% fuel. 3. Drive less. 4. Walk or ride when possible. 5. When you buy a new vehicle, make an econmical choice. 6. When you make choices such as lawn care, choose non-petroleum choices (i.e. electric lawnmowers). 6. Support alternative, renewable biofuels and use them in your tank, even if it is a few cents higher. 7. Stop recreational activities that use lots of petroleum, such as racing, boating, etc. and supporting racing sports that use lots of fuel such as NASCAR. 8. Support legislation and politicians that support increasing fuel economy, conservation, reducing climate change, and giving tax incentives for alternative fuels and alternative energies for transportation, while increasing taxes on petroleum-based fuels.

    Truth is we don’t pay near for gas what it costs. Its estimated that securing the free-flow of oil accross the globe costs us around $50 billion dollars towards our defense budget. This money doesn’t go towards the cost of gasoline, but is passed on to all the tax payers, or contributes to the national debt.

    Just now people are investing in alternatives that will net us less petroleum consumption. High gas prices are making us mad, but they are doing such good things for us in the long run. The worst possible thing that could happen now is for gas prices to drop.


  49. All Wrong » Crude vs Refined: What’s up with oil? Says:

    […] But wait, there’s more! Check out this article on exactly that issue posted mid-last week, suggesting exactly the opposite. […]


  50. Reginald Says:

    In concurrence with post 45, I think we should take some profits from the oil companies and put in our pockets. There are ways to do this which includes burning the fuel in our cars more efficiently. How do you do that you ask? Well, the gas has to be treated so the flash point is reduced. Once that happens, you’lh have a cleaner burning fuel that will release more energy. Check out the link to learn more.


  51. Dick B Says:

    Its good that somebody else has finally joined my cry - Nationalize these Aholes - if we have to pay exhorbinant amounts for their profits, lets use those monies for taxes where we get some benefit (albiet very little). Oh - and by the way, for all the help our elected officials are giving us in the oil screwjob, let’s DUMP THE ENCUMBENTS! The hell with the Democrats and Republicans. I’ll vote for anybody except one of these 2 parties. I’m tired of this bull!


  52. Doreen G Says:

    How can we organize a protest of these oil prices? Two weeks ago, illegal immigrants were able to organize huge protests in several cities…..can’t we get something organized to get people together to speak out about this now? We are all being taken advantage of by big oil companies and the current federal government administration and we have to get our word out to show them that this is a BIG issue to us now! It shouldn’t be hard to get people out when they are hit in the wallet!


  53. Howard Says:

    The Ethanol Hoax

    Ethanol is always going to be more expensive than gasoline because it takes more energy to produce ethanol than the amount of energy that can be gotten out of it.

    One step in producing ethanol is growing corn. In order to grow corn, the farmer must plow the field, cultivate the field, and apply such chemicals as fertilizer, herbicides, fungicides, and insecticides. He must also harvest the corn and transport the harvest to the plant which produces the ethanol. All of this requires the use of tractors and trucks which burn gasoline.

    Adding ethanol to gasoline causes the price of the gasoline to go up, thus causing the cost of producing the ethanol to go up in a never ending spiral!


  54. Luck91 Says:

    Subsituting a food source for mechanical energy is a mistake (even if the corn is not the food source now, we would have the potential of switching to our corn that is the food source). Think scope and what happens if corn is the answer…we would use it like crazy.

    Some one PLEASE find the law that forces gas stations to make a profit on every gallon of gas they sell. This is the immediate problem to our high gas prices. The law was implimented to stop the gas wars of decades ago that caused so many mom and pop stations to go belly up. Gas stations are no longer mom and pop and we need to bring back true market competition…as there is no competition now and only demand with oil company controlled supply.

    Exxon’s biggest profits are coming from their future purchases of oil in the $30’s for a barrel of oil and not from the gas prices themselves (but that does not hurt the bottom line of course). So, if I bought gas for $1/gallon last year and now the market is at $3/gallon and I sale for $3/gallon, I make $2/gallon. True; however, why not sale at $2/gallon and undercut everyone else? Because they are conspiring and don’t have to compete do the law that forces all gas stations to make profit on gas sales! The gas comes in the same gas trucks to most gas stations. I ran a gas station for 2 years. Just check and see how many gas distribution points you have in your city and who owns them…this gas goes into all of your gas stations. It is a commodity that consumers are forced to pay for at a premium by a law designed to protect consumers…but now protects big business at the expense of consumers. This is capitalism? This is communism! Let free market competition reign!!!


  55. Buzz Baer Says:

    Gas vs Biofuels. I dont think China or India care about MTBE additives,Ethernol or Global warming. They will puchase all the oil they need to contiue there economic growth and the Americans will continue to import their products. Oil companies will sell oil to higest bidders and that includes American Oil companies. we have some refineries down now do to Katrina and some off line for refitting. In the past we had 15 refineries,today only 4. if we go totally green,those countries will continue to use oil, and just like a volcano that blows it top, the winds of fortune will blow the reidue around the world. Global warming will continue. Vrapy Buzz Baer Kailua Kona Hi.


  56. charles Mcfadden Says:

    I am more concerned about where are we headed? Logic tells me,that we are not uttillizing all our means.Why,are we not using the famer to grow the essentials to produce ethonal.I am so tired of hearing the quarterly reports of oil companies.It sounds like they are bragging in the midst of a catastrophy.


  57. qrswave Says:

    Globablists would sooner rain bombs on our heads before they allow us to nationalize. Or they would pull our money supply out from underneath us.

    That said, we need to start by nationalizing the money supply, THEN we can nationalize the country’s mineral resources. But, the energy sectors, like banking, health care, and insurance, must be run by private, NON-Profit community organizations - NOT an incompetent federal government.


  58. Eye on Williamson » John Carter’s Million Dollar link to Exxon Says:

    […] When not voting his financial self-interest, Carter helps the American Petroleum Institute spread misinformation directly to his constituents. Last month, the API sent this letter to Congress with talking points to deflect voter outrage over oil company profiteering. (ThinkProgess has more.) Carter complied, offering this op-ed in today’s Hill Country News. Carter also staged a press conference at a Shell station in Killeen, repeating many of the same points (watch the video). The similarities between the API letter and Carter’s words are readily apparent. In particular, the API and Carter blame: […]


  59. moonshineman Says:

    E85 has no chance of finding any real market in the U.S. while the GOP controls Congress. Most Members of Congress are bought and paid for and have long since sold their souls to the Big Oil lobbies. Get use to it. It ain’t gonna change anytime soon.


  60. tom vilsak Says:

    Ethanol will NEVER be economically viable replacement for oil UNTIL we seperate Ethanol from the oil companies. WHO distributes Ethanol now????? Ethanol IS much cheaper to produce than gasoline. WHO is making profits from Ethanol??? WHO controls price, delivery, and availabilty of Ethanol???? Why are there not any E100 vehicles???? Hmmmm, if there were E100 vehicles ( which exist right now outside the USA ) then it would not have to be supplied through oil industry network of gas stations. Think about it people!!!!! WE are and Ethanol is being manipulated by oil companies with the end result being bigger profits for oil companies, a pitiful dent in our dependency on oil, too little too late effect on pollution, and a nation losing focus on viable fuel options. I live in Iowa. I own an E85 car. My family raises corn. I don’t buy E85 because the gas stations here gouge us with a inflated price for a product that is less efficeint. We NEED to get Ethanol away from the oil industry. PERIOD.



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