VIDEO: McClellan Battered On Presidential Leak
VIDEO: McClellan Battered On Presidential Leak
According to the White House, when the President authorized Scooter Libby to leak the classified National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) to reporters “sometime before July 8, 2003 — it was declassified. But on July 18, 2003, Scott McClellan was asked when the NIE was declassified. McClellan said, “It was officially declassified today.”
Today, the White House press corps pounded McClellan about the glaring inconsistency. Watch it:
Transcript:
QUESTION: I understand the reason why you thought it needed to be declassified, because of the debate at the time. The question was: When was it declassified? And you were asked that day — the question was: When was it actually declassified. And you said: It was officially declassified today.
If it had been officially declassified on July 18th, 2003, then 10 days before, when the information was given out, it was still classified at the time.
MCCLELLAN: Again, you’re going back to an assertion that is made in a filing related to an ongoing legal proceeding when you talk about the second part of your question. There is no way for me to separate that question and talk about this issue without discussing an ongoing legal proceeding. And I can’t do that.
We have a policy that’s been established. And I’ve obligated to adhere to that policy.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
MCCLELLAN: Yes, but you can’t separate that question from the legal proceeding…
QUESTION: Was it declassified…
MCCLELLAN: … because of the one of the assertions that was made in the filing.
Well, you can go back and look at comments that were made at that time. That was when it was publicly released at the time. I have not looked back at exactly what was said at that time…
QUESTION: So let’s be really clear about this. It says right here, on July 18th, When was it actually declassified?
Mr. McClellan, answer: ‘It was officially declassified today.’
Is that correct?
MCCLELLAN: Again, you’re asking me to get into the timing I’m not backing away from anything that was said previously. That is when the document was released so that’s when it officially…
QUESTION: They don’t say released. They say declassified.
MCCLELLAN: I know. Let me tell you, that’s when it was officially released. And so I think that’s what I was referring to at the time.
I’d have to go back and look at the specific comments, but I’m not changing anything that was said previously. So let me make that clear.
Now, secondly, the question you’re going to, again, relates to the timing of when certain information was declassified.
QUESTION: I’m not going to that question.
MCCLELLAN: Well, but there is no way to separate that question out from the ongoing legal proceeding. QUESTION: You are very careful with your words here. I think if you wanted to say released, you would have said released. You said declassified.
MCCLELLAN: OK. That is when the information was released publicly.
QUESTION: Did you not know…
QUESTION: Scott…
MCCLELLAN: Now, for the national intelligence estimate, it did go through a declassification process; you are correct. And information was carefully looked at by the intelligence community before the portions of the national intelligence estimate were made available to the public.
QUESTION: It’s declassified on that day. It wasn’t declassified before.
QUESTION: And you’re saying you’re sticking to — you’re not taking back anything you said before and what you said that day is it was…
MCCLELLAN: I’d be glad to take a look at exactly what I said and I’ll do that. I can’t do that here in this room right now, but I’ll be glad to take a look at it.
QUESTION: Then why are you saying you’re not backing off…
MCCLELLAN: Well, what I’m saying is that — I think what I was referring to is the fact that that was when it was made available to the public. So all that information is officially declassified at that point.
QUESTION: Then why are you saying you won’t back off anything you said before if, in fact, we have transcripts here where you say that’s when it was officially declassified? Are you still saying that’s when it was officially declassified?
MCCLELLAN: That’s when it was made available to the public, so it’s officially declassified at that point. I think we’re talking past each other a little bit.
I’ll have to go back and look at the specific transcript, and I’ll be glad to do that. And we can talk about it further later.
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IS HE GETTING FATTER OR IS THAT JUST SOME KIND OF BLOAT YOU GET FROM LYING SO MUCH?
April 7th, 2006 at 2:51 pmI wonder how many agents died or lost their job because of this latest lie by the dictator in charge…….Blessings we need them.
April 7th, 2006 at 2:51 pmIf it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, then it must be a duck.
April 7th, 2006 at 2:52 pmI wonder who’s head will roll for this mess, Cheney maybe? I can see Bush laying this whole mess at Cheney’s feet, and marching him off the gallows.
April 7th, 2006 at 2:55 pmScoot McClellan: “I’d be glad to take a look at exactly what I said and I’ll do that. I can’t do that here in this room right now, but I’ll be glad to take a look at it.”
Translation: I need to check my notes in order to keep my lies straight and consistent. It’s hard work, you know, having to lie though my teeth and then remember all the falsehoods I told you people. Gosh! What did you expect? Accountability from your government? Sheeshh…
April 7th, 2006 at 2:56 pmTap dancing at it’s finest.
April 7th, 2006 at 2:59 pmhmmm…just think how many “on-going investigations” will be taking place if Democrats manage to retake the House. Scott won’t be able to comment at all.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:00 pm#1 I usually refer to Scotty as Porky McClellan. He has no neck, looks like he’s losing hair and looks like someone whosr ass we can easily kick.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:01 pmJudd,
The October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq was NOT declassified on July 18, 2003. Only the Key Judgements were declassified on that date. In the meeting where the Key Judgements were passed around and discussed, the officials used the term classified and highly classified
Key Judgements from Oct 2002 NIE on Iraq
http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/iraq-wmd.html
Meeting minutes for release of the Key Judgements
http://www.fas.org/ irp/ news/ 2003/ 07/ wh071803.html
The October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq was declassified in a highly redacted form on July 9, 2004.
Redacted October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraqhttp://www.gwu.edu/ ~nsarchiv/ NSAEBB/ NSAEBB129/ nie.pdf
I have read the Key Judgements and Valerie Plame/Wilson is not mentioned in there anywhere. It is in the real 10/02 NIE on Iraq.
That is the real story here. What the Republicans are trying to say was a declassified document (who cares) is not the document given to Judith Miller.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:01 pmMcClellan should just admit that GW is King and be done with it. No rules or laws apply to him — like the Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland — he can makes laws, disregards laws. He makes no sense, his comments are inconsistent and when caught in his own inconsistencies, he changes the laws, reinterprets them and blames everyone else for their disrespect. Next, I expect he will be yelling at the citizenry, “Off with Their Heads.”
April 7th, 2006 at 3:02 pmWhile watching that video, I half expected him to point to the back of the room and scream, “Look! Paris Hilton’s naked!”
And then run away.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:03 pm#7
They could just place a tape on the poduim of Scotty saying saying over and over again;
I will cannot talk about an ongoing investigation
April 7th, 2006 at 3:03 pmI honestly have no idea how Scotty can sleep at night… his job is to do little more than tell the press and public that what the administation does at our expense is none of our damn business. As bad as BushCo is, Scotty represents the worst of them… no integrity, no credibility, no honor.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:03 pmsorry all I need to re-read my posts. meant to say;
I will not comment on an ongoing investigation.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:05 pm… the sleeping monster awakens …
… ’bout fricken fracken time …
April 7th, 2006 at 3:06 pmBet he’s thinking: Thank G_d It’s Friday!
April 7th, 2006 at 3:07 pmPerhaps reporters are waking up and decided that a 4 year vacation from being a responsible journalist is long enough.
Personally, I don’t think they care that Bush possibly broke the law (again). They’re just upset that Scotty is lying to them (again).
April 7th, 2006 at 3:12 pmMr. McClellan should go hunting with the VP for javelinas in Texas using 12 gauge shot guns.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:13 pm#10 - McClellan should just admit that GW is King and be done with it.
Want to know something really weird? Nixon asked the Rand Corp for a study of the effects on the US populace if someone were to declare themselves a monarchy.
Strange. But true story.
It seems that Emperor George is using the findings from that study and has done his best to apply them.
The health of our Republic is at stake here. And all Snotty can do is dance. Sad. V.sad.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:16 pmI’m surprised the corporate bosses let their reporters get this snarky.
Maybe Bushco has turned into a bigger liability than it’s worth to keep propping his sorry @ss up.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:17 pmI watched the conference. McClellan looked more foolish than ever, and it just whent on and on. I doubt if he can take much more of this. The lies and obfuscations get bigger and bigger. his room to wiggle gets smaller.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:22 pmI don’t know, maybe its just me.
But isn’t he starting to sound a little like Baghdad Bob?
April 7th, 2006 at 3:23 pmScotty never answered anything. The WH press corps is a joke. They let Scotty get away with the same old rhetoric “I can not comment on an ongoing investigation.†I look at him and I wanna puke…
April 7th, 2006 at 3:26 pmMost of the right wing sites are ignoring these new revelations, or stating they are the mad ravings of the lunatic left. I guess when they get killed in elections for the next 20 years they may start paying attention.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:30 pm#3 If you change the ‘u’ in duck to an ‘i’ , it’ll be an even more factual statement. :)
April 7th, 2006 at 3:35 pm#3 If you change the ‘u’ in duck to an ‘i’ , it’ll be an even more factual statement. :)
April 7th, 2006 at 3:35 pmANSWER THE QUESTION CLAIRE!!! Jeez, they should call this 101 ways to KEEP dodging a question.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:38 pmThe MSM has finally narrowed down why they are losing their audiences to the blogs, it is shocking really.
You see, when people read or watch the news, they want to see the news.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:38 pmUnbelieveable -
Then they would have two Dick’s in the WH and honestly I do not think they have one amongst them.
I am sorry fo being so crude, sometimes a girl just cannot help herself!
April 7th, 2006 at 3:39 pmJules
The definition of a Republican is a dick without balls.
Well, if you are going to be crude you may as well go all the way…
April 7th, 2006 at 3:41 pmYou have a very expansive definition of what constitutes ‘pounding’.
Pounding surf washes away beaches, trees, vehicles, houses…
A pounding in the squared circle leaves the pounded one unsure and uneasy on his legs…
When i am finished pounding a nail, it has all but disappeared into whatsoever material into which i have pounded it…
Pounding a tough piece of meat leaves it tenderized…
on those terms, i see no evidence of scottie experiencing the least discomfort, much less having undergone a pounding…
April 7th, 2006 at 3:42 pmbut waddoino…
This is Unbelievable: public representatives are LYING THROUGH THEIR FACES to profit their cronies (Bush&co.). Oh wait, no it’s not.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:43 pmBruce - I know this is getting legalistic, but doesn;t having a dick make them men? I do not consider them men so I think they are missing this vital bodypart!
April 7th, 2006 at 3:45 pmEven more interesting is the fact that the White House had to have known that this was coming and this was the best lie they could come up with after this much time to prepare. WOW
April 7th, 2006 at 3:46 pmScotty will very soon be “spending more time with his family.” Then they can prop up Queen Elspeth from “Snow White,” Mary Matalin.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:48 pmToo bad she can’t get made up as C.J. Craig.
Lynn - you are so right. I had not thought of that. They are usually better at spinning.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:48 pmThat President Bush authorized Scooter Libby to selectively leak portions of the highly classified October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate as part of a coordinated assault on Joseph Wilson and other debunkers of pre-war Iraq WMD claims should come as a surprise to no one. Neither should the silence of the GOP and his conservative allies.
For the full story, see:
April 7th, 2006 at 3:49 pm“GOP Cornered by Bush Leak.”
when will we see an evaluation of the costs incurred by private parties AND by the taxpayers for the investigation of Plamegate in the MSM-costs that could have been avoided had Bush been honest about his role? what price on the human years wasted on the grand jury because of this deceit? who will strive to get remuneration from Bush for these expenses and hold him responsible for his bald-faced lies about leaks?
oh. that’s right. never, nothing, and no one…
April 7th, 2006 at 3:50 pmNo wonder Ari Fleisher left, he knew this sh&t was about to hit the fan and he didn’t want to play dodge ball with the press. Thank God the press seems to have woken from it’s long slumber.
Now about that Impeachment.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:53 pmUnbelieveable -
Then they would have two Dick’s in the WH and honestly I do not think they have one amongst them.
Comment by Jules
Correct me if I’m wrong, but what about Condi Rice? I mean, no one knows for sure, but she at least has balls!!!!!
April 7th, 2006 at 3:54 pmC’mon now. Here’s one area where West Wing was close to true.
Press Secretary’s aren’t SUPPOSED to tell you the truth! They are supposed to spin the item in question to make their employer look good. Do I like that? NO! But I understand that.
Scotty is a lying sack of shit because he is being ordered by liars above him to lie to the press & by extension to the American people!
It’s our job to point this out to EVERYBODY so that we can get as many people as possible to vote against republicans & hopefully for the democrats in November.
Impeach the MF Already!
Take a look ath the Onion’s fun stuff today: The Senate Ethics Committee. Because laughing is important for our well being and health.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:55 pmJules
They are males, but not men, macho, but not masculine, fearful, but incautious, lusful, but unloving. They are the Republican party.
April 7th, 2006 at 3:57 pmMaybe that’s how they work? They are all prick and Condi is the gonads?
April 7th, 2006 at 4:00 pmAnd that is my quota of ad-hominem for the day…
April 7th, 2006 at 4:01 pmAnd that is my quota of ad-hominem for the day…
Comment by Bruce Gorton — April 7, 2006 @ 4:01 pm
You sure? ;)
April 7th, 2006 at 4:15 pmDamn, this is all just too much, too fucking much.
April 7th, 2006 at 4:24 pmbobcat_grad suggested that this was evidence of “tap dancing at its finest”.
I have to disagree. Richard gere in “Chicago” — there was some tap dancing. Snotty McClellan is just pathetic. Not very convincing, not very celever. He’s a little pill bug. A difficult question comes near, he rolls up into an impenetrable ball and rides it out:
“I was talking about when it was released.”
“I was talking about when it was released to the public.”
“I can’t discuss an ongoing investigation.”
“I said that it was released to the public on that day.”
April 7th, 2006 at 4:24 pmI just did a quick lurk of 8 right wing sites. Only one of ‘em has touched this one yet. I won’t tell you which one, but it’s a smaller one. The big guys are acting like this isn’t out of the bag yet.
Reminds me of Wensdays South Park….Let’s all stick our heads in the sand and this will go away!
April 7th, 2006 at 4:29 pmIs it impeachment time yet? Bush,Cheney,Rice, Rumsfeld,Abrams,Nergoponte all deserve to be imprisoned.
April 7th, 2006 at 4:52 pmThe real issue is abuse of power for political gain. Bush was caught in a lie about “yellow Cake” and was in a furor that led to revenge that led to the disclosure of an agents’s cover. A tripartite conspiracy involving Bush, Chaney and Libby was conceived to get even with the Wilson’s for calling him to account for the lies about WMDs. There is a case based not on declassification as much as the criminal intent to end or destroy the career of an agent, embarrass the Wilsons and save face for a misguided political agenda. The motive is revenge. Why was Valerie Pflame singled out for disclosure if not for political purposes?
April 7th, 2006 at 4:54 pmMcClellan may surpass Ron Ziegler as the most incorherant presidential press secretary of all time.
April 7th, 2006 at 5:12 pm52- “If my answers sound confusing, I think they are confusing because the questions are confusing and the situation is confusing.”
The (in)famous comic stylings of the great Ron Ziegler. Scotty has nothing on him.
April 7th, 2006 at 5:19 pmHere is what I don’t get. The full document was never declassified (unless I have missed something in reading on this story). So how is it possible that Libby knew what parts of the document he supposedly could or could not disclose under Bush’s insta-declassification.
The WH is not contesting the allegation made by Libby. So unless there is some document that was sent Libby either physically or electronically detailing exactly what information could be conveyed, then Bush did not only authorized the leaking of information that would remain classified for another ten days - he also authorized the leaking of information that is still classified to this day.
April 7th, 2006 at 5:47 pmThe #1 rule about lying: When caught in a lie, keep on lying.
LOL! This is just too good to be true. Someone pinch me. Bush is goat-fucked! HaHa Ha! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Bush!
April 7th, 2006 at 5:54 pm#49…. I just cruised a few right wing blogs. . . primary reaction and comments are “The prez has the authoriity to do what he wants in order to protect America.” Including, “The prez can declassify anything at anytime, that’s what he’s suppose to do.” “This is a ‘nothing deal,’ that the liberals seem to think is a big deal.” I guess legal details aren’t really all that important if you are in control of the WH and congress!
April 7th, 2006 at 6:06 pmNot to mention that Bush had a bunch of tough talk about what he would do to whomever leaked the documents.
(eye rolly)
April 7th, 2006 at 6:13 pmWhich sites Southwest Bob?
April 7th, 2006 at 6:15 pmYup. This is what government has become. I’m sure glad most politicians are businessman and lawyers (professional bullshitters) rather than classically- (or just well-) educated people. Sure has made a big difference to me.
April 7th, 2006 at 6:32 pmsnarky,
Read my post #9.
The document IS not decalssified. It was not declassified on July 18, 2003. Only the Key Judgements were. A highly redacted version was declassified on July 9, 2004.
April 7th, 2006 at 6:46 pmThat was an awful performance by McClellan today. He’s most definetly on his way out. Or maybe not, considering the entire Bush administrations penchant for lying and double-talk. This just might make him a neo-con hero.
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April 7th, 2006 at 7:37 pmProgressive news, analysyis, and the most comnprhensive events listing on the web
Thanks for the Bush Quote A.Angel
[Smirk] Look “I don’t know if we’re [I AM] going to find out the senior administration official.[Smirk, it’s me!] Now, this is a large [Empty Headed] administration, and there’s a lot of senior officials.[HAHA It’s me! Smirk] Look, I don’t [but I do] have any idea. I’d like to [Not]. I want to know the truth[I do it’s me]. That’s why I’ve instructed this staff of mine to cooperate fully with the investigators — full disclosure, everything we [I] know the investigators will [Not] find out. I have no idea [I hope] whether we’ll [I know] find out who the [Me George Bush] leaker is.” -GWB
April 7th, 2006 at 8:00 pmWhat a Pathetic Fool Bush Is…
April 7th, 2006 at 8:03 pm“sometime before July 8, 2003 — it was declassified. But on July 18, 2003, Scott McClellan was asked when the NIE was declassified. McClellan said, “It was officially declassified today.â€
Today, the White House press corps pounded McClellan about the glaring inconsistency. Watch it:”
Judd
Hey Jude, give the guy a break. Who cares if he has his head up his you know what from time to time and can’t keep 10 billion pieces of minutia at the tip of his tongue for sharks masquerading as “journalists”? My guess is you don’t know who you had dinner with 3.29.04. I talked to her today and she thinks you’re a prick. I told her to take it easy because you can’t keep 10 billion pieces of trivia at the tip of your frontal lobe. Sorry, I was just trying to help.
April 7th, 2006 at 9:12 pmI-RIGHT-I,
It isn’t our fault you people on the right are so stupid and lie so much you can’t keep your fvcking stories straight. It is rather easy for us.
I’m sorry you are stupid.
April 7th, 2006 at 9:48 pmHere I-RIGHT-I,
I have done all of the work for you and Scotty. It took me about an hour of searching and reading to find out exactly when the NIE was declassified and when the Key Judgements were declassified.
It is not our fault that you spend so much time trying to apologize for Bush and attack Democrats that you are unable to use Google to gets your facts straight. It is not our fault that Scotty doesn’t know an imprtant event when it slaps him in the face.
IT IS HIS JOB AS THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY. I AM IN PR, IT IS MY JOB TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL I SAY TO THE PRESS.
So, here are all of the facts and dates for you to inform yourself. I posted this in #9, but I know you are too lazy to scroll up, so here it is.
The October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq was declassified in a highly redacted form on July 9, 2004.
Redacted October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq
http://www.gwu.edu/ ~nsarchiv/ NSAEBB/ NSAEBB129/ nie.pdf
I have read the Key Judgements and Valerie Plame/Wilson is not mentioned in there anywhere. It is in the real 10/02 NIE on Iraq.
That is the real story here. What the Republicans are trying to say was a declassified document (who cares) is not the document given to Judith Miller.
April 7th, 2006 at 10:07 pmSpudge_Boy,
April 7th, 2006 at 10:55 pmIf I get this right, W can do no wrong because everything he does is right. In effect, we have a traitor who has never obeyed the law empowered to enforce the law as he sees fit.
WaltTheMan,
Bush does what he wants, when he wants and then Alberto Gonzales ceoms out and says it’s legal.
And the Cheney scowls.
And Rumsfeld says something rediculous.
Then Rice goes to another country and is protested.
And then Scotty covers for them.
Which is later balmed on the “liberal media.”
Rinse and repeat.
April 8th, 2006 at 12:05 amI saw a film clip — Nixon is saying “If the president does it, it’s not illegal.”
April 8th, 2006 at 12:13 amBush is using similar rationale. It’s a psychological disorder.
Like this one?
April 8th, 2006 at 1:26 amhttp://movies.crooksandliars.com/nixon77b.wmv
[…] Think Progress thinks he caught Scott McCellan in a slip-up on the timing of the declassification of the NIE. […]
April 8th, 2006 at 1:32 amThere is a sheet of ice beneath the current administration. Are they looking at global warming for a rescue?
April 8th, 2006 at 1:43 amWho cares about Scotty > he will be gone soon! Not even Jeff Gannon the male hooker calls the UnderBear any longer > lol. The entire Bush Regime is filled with weirdos and ugly people who take prozac!
April 8th, 2006 at 2:15 amFunny thing, last night I was flipping through the channels, and came across the tail end of BBC’s take on McClellan’s views. Basically they said “Bullshit. If the charges are true, the Democrats are simply pointing out that the president is playing petty politics at the expense of the country” in more polite language. It was actually pretty funny.
April 8th, 2006 at 5:15 amOff Topic, but:
If you really want to see the difference between a Rightwinger, and the left:
And that was on the Sixth. After Jill Caroll retracted her statements made under the barrel of a gun.
You see, when Jill was saying the the terrorists were not monsters, we were fine with that, when she later retracted her statement and said she had spoken under the threat of death, we were fine with that too. We were willing to suspend judgement and not attack her as a person, particularly after all she had been through.
Debbie Schlussel evidently doesn’t feel similarly inclined.
April 8th, 2006 at 6:35 am[…] Scott McClellan apparently tried to spin his way out of the latest scandal today- Bush’s selective declassification of particular elements of the the National Security Estimate (NSI)- (ie.those portions that may have been favorable to the President’s case for war). Scotty made an ass of himself and did his usual “I can’t talk about an ongoing legal proceeding or anything else relating to anything that would expose my boss”- tripe. […]
April 8th, 2006 at 5:10 pmI think Scottie is about to explode. No human can lie and deceive daily, at his level and maintain any semblance of sanity. He will soon be found with the back of his head painting the the nearest wall.
For the sake of a job (very well-paying probably), why would this man abuse whatever could possibly be left of his soul to protect this administration? Somebody please save Scott McClellan and offer him a better paying job! We can save his life here and now! Scott, if you’re reading this, QUIT! Get out now! Save your life and renew your integrity.
You can join the human race or go down with a sinking ship. The choice is yours… AND OURS!
April 9th, 2006 at 12:13 amIt is not even amusing anymore to berate McClellan for being the utter tool that he so obviously is. It would, however, be a laugh riot to see the press just not bother asking him any questions at all, or just refuse to show up for these Potemkin briefings.
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