Comments on: Hersh: Our Military Is ‘Very Loyal to the President, But They’re Getting to the Edge’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:48:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: John Durrett http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-762966 John Durrett Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:58:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-762966 Read at top regarding neocons and how they want to glass over the area. That the end of the world is Good. That they dont want us to live in the Star Trek world of Science and Coapoeration. Well, that may very well be true for some. However, has the same author turned thier microscope on the area of conflict and asked the same question? Do women in Burkas live in an advancing Scientific Cummunity of Open Minds. Does Iran with their Presidents Rant on Holocost being fiction, Call for wiping Isreal off the map. Bin Laden's mad crusade against Western World??? Where is the advancement of Science there? Where is the working together in harmony? Hezbolla doesnt even exist as part of their countries elected goverment - existing apart like some poutiing boys with guns. Watch both sides carefully. Where one is true, the other side is not far off. Both sides are capable of inflicting world disasters. But be carefull you you spend your time working on. You may be working on the bomb with a longer fuse..then its to late to address the other. Read at top regarding neocons and how they want to glass over the area. That the end of the world is Good. That they dont want us to live in the Star Trek world of Science and Coapoeration. Well, that may very well be true for some. However, has the same author turned thier microscope on the area of conflict and asked the same question?

Do women in Burkas live in an advancing Scientific Cummunity of Open Minds. Does Iran with their Presidents Rant on Holocost being fiction, Call for wiping Isreal off the map. Bin Laden’s mad crusade against Western World??? Where is the advancement of Science there? Where is the working together in harmony? Hezbolla doesnt even exist as part of their countries elected goverment – existing apart like some poutiing boys with guns.

Watch both sides carefully. Where one is true, the other side is not far off. Both sides are capable of inflicting world disasters. But be carefull you you spend your time working on. You may be working on the bomb with a longer fuse..then its to late to address the other.

]]> By: Think Progress » ThinkFast: May 8, 2006 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-544645 Think Progress » ThinkFast: May 8, 2006 Mon, 08 May 2006 12:57:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-544645 [...] British Prime Minister Tony Blair said that any consideration of a nuclear attack against Iran would be “absolutely absurd,” echoing comments made by his former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw. But like Straw, Blair did not discount the idea that there is serious planning underway for a military strike. [...] [...] British Prime Minister Tony Blair said that any consideration of a nuclear attack against Iran would be “absolutely absurd,” echoing comments made by his former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw. But like Straw, Blair did not discount the idea that there is serious planning underway for a military strike. [...]

]]> By: larry uzarski http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-507791 larry uzarski Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:01:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-507791 WE " AMERICANS ARE LONG OVER DUE " FOR A REVOLUTION IT IS TIME TO TAKE OUT THE "BUSH CRIME FAMILY" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ” AMERICANS ARE LONG OVER DUE ” FOR A REVOLUTION IT IS TIME TO TAKE OUT THE “BUSH CRIME FAMILY” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: pythias http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-507620 pythias Sat, 15 Apr 2006 01:27:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-507620 Comments on this blog indicate the decline of western civilzation if one takes any of these comments seriously, especially the ones by "supermushroom. We're back to the middle ages with this "christian" rhetoric that only the "christians" know how to peacefully govern the world. Ha - the opposite has been the recorded history of the last 2,000 years with so-called Christian nations. Total balderdash!!! Comments on this blog
indicate the decline of
western civilzation if one
takes any of these comments
seriously, especially the
ones by “supermushroom.
We’re back to the middle ages
with this “christian” rhetoric
that only the “christians” know
how to peacefully govern the world.
Ha – the opposite has been the
recorded history of the last 2,000
years with so-called Christian nations.
Total balderdash!!!

]]> By: Tony http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-507283 Tony Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:14:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-507283 Bushco has you Americans in a bind. There is no question that he is guility of "high crimes and misdemeanors (someone would have to explain the meaning of that last word to Bush)". But what can you do? Impeach and then remove him? Then what do you do with Cheney, who is your de facto president? If he had a pacemaker, you could manufacture some sort of electromagnetic pulse and shut it down electrically. But I don't think that's an option. I'm not as knowledgeable as I should be regarding the powers of Congress, but they could try to shut him down somehow with some kind of law forbidding any kind of military action in Iran without Congressional approval. Fat lot of good that did in the 1980's, though, with your heroic icon, Ronald Reagan. (How did he avoid impeachment when he obviously broke a law Congress passed to keep him out of Nicaragua, resulting in many deaths and a string of Congressional hearings that went nowhere?). You could try holding your breath till November, and then vote in a Democratic HofR and Senate, but that's a long way off. Nope. I think you're screwed. How many Americans know that in early 2005 the Bush Admin called for 15,000 volunteers to man Selective Service offices across the nation? You are becoming a police state with no effective way of stopping a war-mongering madman, short of a military coup. And even if that happened, you're in Iraq for the long haul, and the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are regrouping and laughing at you in Afghanistan. What a mess!!! Bushco has you Americans in a bind. There is no question that he is guility of “high crimes and misdemeanors (someone would have to explain the meaning of that last word to Bush)”. But what can you do? Impeach and then remove him? Then what do you do with Cheney, who is your de facto president? If he had a pacemaker, you could manufacture some sort of electromagnetic pulse and shut it down electrically. But I don’t think that’s an option. I’m not as knowledgeable as I should be regarding the powers of Congress, but they could try to shut him down somehow with some kind of law forbidding any kind of military action in Iran without Congressional approval. Fat lot of good that did in the 1980’s, though, with your heroic icon, Ronald Reagan. (How did he avoid impeachment when he obviously broke a law Congress passed to keep him out of Nicaragua, resulting in many deaths and a string of Congressional hearings that went nowhere?). You could try holding your breath till November, and then vote in a Democratic HofR and Senate, but that’s a long way off. Nope. I think you’re screwed. How many Americans know that in early 2005 the Bush Admin called for 15,000 volunteers to man Selective Service offices across the nation? You are becoming a police state with no effective way of stopping a war-mongering madman, short of a military coup. And even if that happened, you’re in Iraq for the long haul, and the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are regrouping and laughing at you in Afghanistan. What a mess!!!

]]> By: The Sentinael http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-506950 The Sentinael Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:22:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-506950 "No, I’d say who gives a fat rat’s ass what some sheep f’ing wanker from an irrelevant clod of dirt thinks about America." get a life you imperilaist moron! The Sentinel “No, I’d say who gives a fat rat’s ass what some sheep f’ing wanker from an irrelevant clod of dirt thinks about America.”

get a life you imperilaist moron!

The Sentinel

]]> By: Ron in Tennessee http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-505866 Ron in Tennessee Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:33:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-505866 Since the Congress does not have the guts to impeach the Bushzis, I think a military coup of the House, Senate and White House would be a reasonable option. When the hogs all feed out of the same trough, doesn't make any difference which side they are on? Republicans, Democrats, does't make any difference. Corporate America has bought our government. Perhaps the military can get our freedom back. Since the Congress does not have the guts to impeach the Bushzis, I think a military coup of the House, Senate and White House would be a reasonable option.

When the hogs all feed out of the same trough, doesn’t make any difference which side they are on? Republicans, Democrats, does’t make any difference. Corporate America has bought our government.

Perhaps the military can get our freedom back.

]]> By: I-RIGHT-I http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-504717 I-RIGHT-I Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:56:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-504717 As for quoying the bible, it is an exception undertaken in an attempt to communicate with the bible obssessed Christofascists in the UFSA [United Fascist States of America]. The Sentinel Comment by The Sentinael <b>I'll remember you said that when they ask me if the USA should help bail out you wankers when the indigenous peoples you screwed get the Muslims to help them kick you of the islands. </b> No IRI I don’t hate America, just some of the fascist scum that give it such a bad name. It would be stupid to hate an entire nation, even you would agree with that? The Sentinel Comment by The Sentinael <b>No, I'd say who gives a fat rat's ass what some sheep f'ing wanker from an irrelevant clod of dirt thinks about America. </b> As for quoying the bible, it is an exception undertaken in an attempt to communicate with the bible obssessed Christofascists in the UFSA [United Fascist States of America].

The Sentinel

Comment by The Sentinael

I’ll remember you said that when they ask me if the USA should help bail out you wankers when the indigenous peoples you screwed get the Muslims to help them kick you of the islands.

No IRI I don’t hate America, just some of the fascist scum that give it such a bad name.

It would be stupid to hate an entire nation, even you would agree with that?

The Sentinel

Comment by The Sentinael

No, I’d say who gives a fat rat’s ass what some sheep f’ing wanker from an irrelevant clod of dirt thinks about America.

]]> By: The Sentinael http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-504169 The Sentinael Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:47:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-504169 222 again No IRI I don't hate America, just some of the fascist scum that give it such a bad name. It would be stupid to hate an entire nation, even you would agree with that? The Sentinel 222 again

No IRI I don’t hate America, just some of the fascist scum that give it such a bad name.

It would be stupid to hate an entire nation, even you would agree with that?

The Sentinel

]]> By: The Sentinael http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-504162 The Sentinael Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:42:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-504162 222 I-Right-I said"Too bad most of you are illiterate." For the record IRI, I am not only literate, ergo my presence here, I completed my 7th form year [you call it graduating high school] and graduated as a History major from one of NZ's top universities. As for quoying the bible, it is an exception undertaken in an attempt to communicate with the bible obssessed Christofascists in the UFSA [United Fascist States of America]. The Sentinel 222 I-Right-I said”Too bad most of you are illiterate.”

For the record IRI, I am not only literate, ergo my presence here, I completed my 7th form year [you call it graduating high school] and graduated as a History major from one of NZ’s top universities.

As for quoying the bible, it is an exception undertaken in an attempt to communicate with the bible obssessed Christofascists in the UFSA [United Fascist States of America].

The Sentinel

]]> By: Big Ink » Blog Archive » Dot-Connecting http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-504150 Big Ink » Blog Archive » Dot-Connecting Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:17:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-504150 [...] • At ThinkPro, Hersh isn’t naming names, but he is dropping bombs. [...] [...] • At ThinkPro, Hersh isn’t naming names, but he is dropping bombs. [...]

]]> By: james the prophet http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-504064 james the prophet Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:56:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-504064 reply to supermushroom, lol, you write quality stuff. The best example of christianity creating peace is the period of 1922-45 when the german christians (nazis) worked their magic. reply to supermushroom, lol, you write quality stuff. The best example of christianity creating peace is the period of 1922-45 when the german christians (nazis) worked their magic.

]]> By: nConsPiracy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-503949 nConsPiracy Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:13:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-503949 Better the military should force the Bushniks to resign -- or take them out and shoot them, as will wind up happening in the end. Given that the voting system has been hijacked, and the media mostly captured, and the population mostly silenced, the Congress mostly gutless, the military is the most likely agent of American liberation. 'Twas ever thus. Better the military should force the Bushniks to resign — or take them out and shoot them, as will wind up happening in the end. Given that the voting system has been hijacked, and the media mostly captured, and the population mostly silenced, the Congress mostly gutless, the military is the most likely agent of American liberation.

‘Twas ever thus.

]]> By: nConsPiracy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-503939 nConsPiracy Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:05:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-503939 Better the military should force the Bushniks to resign -- or take them out and shoot them, as will wind up happening in the end. Given that the voting system has been hijacked, and the media mostly captured, and the popuation mostly silenced, the Congress mostly gutless, the military is the most likely agent of American liberation. 'Twas ever thus. Better the military should force the Bushniks to resign — or take them out and shoot them, as will wind up happening in the end. Given that the voting system has been hijacked, and the media mostly captured, and the popuation mostly silenced, the Congress mostly gutless, the military is the most likely agent of American liberation.

‘Twas ever thus.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-503756 unbelievable Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:02:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-503756 <em>Nope, that would be the Christian God during His incarnation. Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 11, 2006 @ 3:32 pm </em> If there is a God, then we are all his incarnations. Even Jesus said so. Organized religion just ignores that part. Nope, that would be the Christian God during His incarnation.

Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 11, 2006 @ 3:32 pm

If there is a God, then we are all his incarnations. Even Jesus said so. Organized religion just ignores that part.

]]> By: I-RIGHT-I http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-503713 I-RIGHT-I Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:32:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-503713 Is there even a Greek God of overwhelming humility? :) Comment by unbelievable Nope, that would be the Christian God during His incarnation. Is there even a Greek God of overwhelming humility? :)

Comment by unbelievable

Nope, that would be the Christian God during His incarnation.

]]> By: I-RIGHT-I http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-503705 I-RIGHT-I Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:30:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-503705 Supermushroom: Are you as crazy as your rant appears? You can’t just nuke the military! It will affect all in its way for hundreds of miles. It will also set off WWIII. Comment by Cathy <b>The idea is to nuke the underground bunkers, not our military. Please pay attention to the plan.</b> Check out what happened in Japan. <b>Let's see, what happened in Japan? Oh yeah, the surrendered and we didn't lose a million men trying to capture the island. Nukes are good for things like killing the enemy while not getting your own guys killed. </b> What kind of Christian are you? None I’ve ever heard of until Bush and his ilk came to office. <b>What kind of Christian are you? Oh, you're not a stinking Christian? Then what do you care or what do you know about different "kinds" of Christians? How rude!</b> I sure hope you were kidding. Cathy From the once great State of Michigan <b>Michigan sucks and no I'm not kidding. </b> Supermushroom:

Are you as crazy as your rant appears? You can’t just nuke the military! It will affect all in its way for hundreds of miles. It will also set off WWIII.

Comment by Cathy

The idea is to nuke the underground bunkers, not our military. Please pay attention to the plan.

Check out what happened in Japan.

Let’s see, what happened in Japan? Oh yeah, the surrendered and we didn’t lose a million men trying to capture the island. Nukes are good for things like killing the enemy while not getting your own guys killed.

What kind of Christian are you? None I’ve ever heard of until Bush and his ilk came to office.

What kind of Christian are you? Oh, you’re not a stinking Christian? Then what do you care or what do you know about different “kinds” of Christians? How rude!

I sure hope you were kidding.

Cathy
From the once great State of Michigan

Michigan sucks and no I’m not kidding.

]]> By: Metzengerstein http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-503601 Metzengerstein Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:09:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-503601 The good news is, the 25th amendment provides a way to remove a president from duty, at least temporarily. The bad news is, it has to be done by the VP and 2/3 of the cabinet. So obviously, they wouldn't do it in the first place and if they did, it would just give Cheney the formal power he already wields behind the throne. I seem to remember hearing something about how during Watergate, James Schlessinger (then Sec. of Defense) took extra precautions to ensure that if Nixon went really off his rocker, he couldn't just push the nuclear button without somebody in the chain of command being able to stop him. Whatever their politics, there were at least some sane cabinet members back then. Too bad for us that the current SoD is as crazy (maybe crazier) than the preznit. The good news is, the 25th amendment provides a way to remove a president from duty, at least temporarily. The bad news is, it has to be done by the VP and 2/3 of the cabinet. So obviously, they wouldn’t do it in the first place and if they did, it would just give Cheney the formal power he already wields behind the throne.

I seem to remember hearing something about how during Watergate, James Schlessinger (then Sec. of Defense) took extra precautions to ensure that if Nixon went really off his rocker, he couldn’t just push the nuclear button without somebody in the chain of command being able to stop him. Whatever their politics, there were at least some sane cabinet members back then. Too bad for us that the current SoD is as crazy (maybe crazier) than the preznit.

]]> By: Cathy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-503547 Cathy Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:45:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-503547 Supermushroom: Are you as crazy as your rant appears? You can't just nuke the military! It will affect all in its way for hundreds of miles. It will also set off WWIII. Check out what happened in Japan. What kind of Christian are you? None I've ever heard of until Bush and his ilk came to office. I sure hope you were kidding. Cathy From the once great State of Michigan Supermushroom:

Are you as crazy as your rant appears? You can’t just nuke the military! It will affect all in its way for hundreds of miles. It will also set off WWIII.

Check out what happened in Japan.

What kind of Christian are you? None I’ve ever heard of until Bush and his ilk came to office.

I sure hope you were kidding.

Cathy
From the once great State of Michigan

]]> By: Susan Strouss http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-military/comment-page-5/#comment-503493 Susan Strouss Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:05:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/09/hersh-our-military-is-very-loyal-to-the-president-but-they%e2%80%99re-getting-to-the-edge/#comment-503493 We must trust and hope that our Military remembers it has sworn a duty to protect and defend the Constitution, not a man! We must trust and hope that our Military remembers it has sworn a duty to protect and defend the Constitution, not a man!

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