Justice for Native Americans.
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Justice for Native Americans.
Ten years ago, Elouise Cobell and 500,000 individual claimants filed suit against the government for cheating American Indians out of $27.5 billion. The government has refused to settle despite having lost in 17 prior decisions. American Progress is hosting a discussion on the case which is live on C-Span right now.
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It seems laws only apply when it is convenient. Look at BushCo these days……
April 11th, 2006 at 4:21 pmFinally, the administration doing something fiscally responsible, nobody wants that much more onto the national debt.
April 11th, 2006 at 4:22 pmyes, i posted something on this issue a week or two ago.
when gale norton ‘resigned to spend time with the kiddies’ the miscreant was resigning because she ought to have been impeached and removed from office in handcuffs!
her hands are FILTHY
here is my favorite quote from a judge in the litigation regarding the BUSH INTERIOR DEPT and this NORTON cretin:
Judge Lambeth
April 11th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
WOW! Powerful quote.
April 11th, 2006 at 4:37 pmYou go, Judge Lambeth!
Yeah, because we would rather waste money on an endless war, than to give the money back to the people it was stolen from.
April 11th, 2006 at 4:37 pmhee hee.
April 11th, 2006 at 4:42 pmNice one, Spudge!
Glad to see this get some public voice.
One would think that short-changing Indians was over, but it continues even today.
If there is anything worth seeing in South Dakota, it is the Crazy Horse monument.
It was interesting to see President Bush stumble over what sovereignty means. Well, more depressing than interesting.
April 11th, 2006 at 4:43 pmJack,
April 11th, 2006 at 4:49 pmI was there in 1988, and it was pretty much just the outline. Is it done now?
Crazy Horse was impressive, even then. Mt. Rushmore is like a “kiddie ride” next to that monument.
5.
Yeah, because we would rather waste money on an endless war, than to give the money back to the people it was stolen from
Nice Redirect Spudge.
April 11th, 2006 at 4:56 pm#9 OK, on thread again. Custer was spanked then in Little Big Horn as Bush is being spanked today. Hey, I didn’t mention the I word… oops, there are two I words, the present and the future I words… Well, you understand me, I guess.
April 11th, 2006 at 5:12 pmI just think it’s convenient that any topic that could come up for discussion leads right to “well Iraq this”.
I was kind of interested in someone putting something I could learn in this thread because it interests me. I just expected more out of a discussion about soverign rights than “But Iraq” The one person that posted something that at least relates to it gets shut down so we can go back to Bush bashing on Iraq.
And I get told I am wrong about there being one agenda on this site.
April 11th, 2006 at 5:21 pmTundra,
Unfortunately Iraq is a blatant example of misplaced priorities in this country. We talk about bringing freedom, fairness and self determination to Iraq, while millions of native americans are given little if any voices over their own affairs. And then when it’s time for us to honor our obligations to them – we try to CHEAT them. Sorry, but white man (republicans in particular) speak with forked tongue.
And if you want to talk about something other than Iraq – then TALK and don’t just bitch because others aren’t talking.
And as for your ’slander’ about the agenda of the site, based on your post one could easily make the same assumption that the only agenda from the reichwing is to ‘flank’ bush and cover his behind for each and every failure he makes. The reichwing doesn’t hold bush accountable, and any effort to do so is treated as ‘bush hating’. That’s just a psychotic response, yet it’s about the best that the reich and their ‘friends’ can offer…
You want a better discussion – then have one. I gave you the lead in – lets have it.
April 11th, 2006 at 5:34 pmJust as we are tired of every topic leading to “It’s Clinton’s fault.”
Welcome to our world. It won’t stop.
April 11th, 2006 at 6:03 pmWhy did you say “we”? I haven’t heard you bash Bush yet.
April 11th, 2006 at 6:05 pmWell,I will say that the Indians in this suit are unfamiliar with the world of lawsuits. Ten years isn’t that far out of whack. Commercial disputes,bankruptcies,patent suits last at least this long. Back in the time that there were railroad bankruptcies,the average length was in the 20 year range. Hey,government lawyers gotta eat too.
April 11th, 2006 at 6:23 pmAnd as for your ’slander’ about the agenda of the site
Slander implies I am lying. Here’s an idea. Go through all of the posts on the front page and see how long it takes you to get an iraq comparison. I just did it. There are 2 that don’t have it within the first 20 posts. If it’s ot the agenda of the site here It sure appears to be the agenda of a number of posters here.
based on your post one could easily make the same assumption that the only agenda from the reichwing is to ‘flank’ bush and cover his behind for each and every failure he makes
Sure I’ll agree with that too then.
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Why did you say “we� I haven’t heard you bash Bush yet.
Bush Sucks
Bush is an idiot
Bush thinks he is a king
Bush doesn’t care about anything except big oil
Bush was so stupid he choose a Nazi as a VP
Native American discussion coming up as soon as I gert a break in the action here
April 11th, 2006 at 6:39 pm“Slander implies I am lying. Here’s an idea. Tundra”
exactly… The site talks about policy decisions, areas of national importance and in this case the CHEATING OF NATIVE AMERICANS. Only a PSYCHOPATH believes that’s an agenda of ‘hate bush’, it’s an agenda of LOVE AMERICA.
“Sure I’ll agree with that too then. Tundra”
And there are plenty of sites that dedicate themselves to saying nothing but I hate bush – but to SLANDER this site as one of them is as disenguous as what the lying trolls post daily. And you can’t tell me you haven’t seen MANY of them caught in clear and blatant lies and/or propaganda. Heck you yourself last night posted a propaganda piece from one of those Narco Libertarian website talking about how the FDA was bad because it delayed a VERY DANGEROUS drug between 1957-1967 which had a listed side effect of DEATH.
“Bush Sucks”
Check.
“Bush is an idiot”
Check
“Bush thinks he is a king”
Check
“Bush doesn’t care about anything except big oil”
And Halliburton and ChristoTalibanjoes the rest of his ‘base’.
“Bush was so stupid he choose a Nazi as a VP”
Must of reminded him of his great grandfather.
“Native American discussion coming up as soon as I gert a break in the action here
Comment by Tundra ”
Excellent – then you won’t look like a hypocrite in your post. Doing nothing but bashing others for bashing is the height of hypocrisy and trolling – you’re better than that.
April 11th, 2006 at 7:12 pmi like norton…she lets me play with her falafel long time!
April 11th, 2006 at 7:20 pmOK. I’ll be the bad guy here…..
“So “Tundra” is Native American for “One shut up by Ryan Neat”…?
Sorry, everyone.
April 11th, 2006 at 7:23 pmMy sarcasm level is off the charts tonight…
Ryan,
Prescott Bush is George W. Bush’ Grandpa and George H. W. Bushes Dad. The seperation is a lot smaller than Great Grandpa.
April 11th, 2006 at 7:35 pmDuring the many hearings of the American Indian Policy Review Commission in the early 1970’s, this continent’s indigenous tribal leadership consistently presented evidence that, when the Indian Claims Commission and Courts began ajudicating rights and compensation beginning after the Reorganization Act of 1934, the Federal government worked only to ignore its overarching responsibilities. During those hearings, and subsequent to them, the Senate Select Committee on Indian Affairs began to press the BIA, Department of Interior, and the Department of Justice to show where all the money had gone, especially those owed to the tribes from the lease payments and royalties generated by US agriculture and resource extraction industries. Those cases came to a head in the mid 1990’s when this latest round of litigation ensued. There is much more to this story than just the last ten years. It is a horrible travesty of justice, and that egregiously understates the evil inherent in the abandonment of 536 treaties, all of which were and are binding of equal weight to the US Constitution.
I will say that the $27 billion is trivial compared to the dollar values at which all the tribes are owed for violations of treaties and agreements. The actual numbers are running in the tens of trillions at the moment. Yes we are keeping track people.
April 11th, 2006 at 7:36 pmIn two months, the case that bears her name will have been in the court system for 10 years
Makes it 1996 I believe if my math is correct here.
government for cheating American Indians out of $27.5 billion.
In reality the loss is 13 Billion with 175 to 200 Billion figured for interest. John McCain helped come to 27.5 Billion as an attempted settlement.
Sorry, but white man (republicans in particular) speak with forked tongue
Excellent generalization, which you do excell at. Is it so hard for you to say that our government has screwed the Native Americans over from day one? Regardless of who was in charge?
While it’s own Senators and assemblyman, MT Senator Max Baucus(D), MT Senator Conrad Burns (R) and Rep Denny Burns (R) are too busy hiding and dodging Abramoff’s issues, it gets left to McCain to deal with.
http://www.indianz.com/News/2005/011846.asp
April 11th, 2006 at 8:29 pm“Montana’s Sens. Conrad Burns and Max Baucus and Rep. Denny Rehberg have made a big show in recent days of returning or giving away campaign contributions linked to pariah-lobbyist Jack Abramoff, formally one of Washington, D.C.’s top stringpullers now under investigation for influence peddling, bilking clients and other bad deeds. Members of Montana’s congressional delegation have joined politicians elsewhere in attempting to distance themselves from Abramoff.
“Excellent generalization, which you do excell at. Tundra”
As do you… As did your initial rant on this thread…
Hypocrisy is really your shtick today isn’t it?
” Is it so hard for you to say that our government has screwed the Native Americans over from day one? Regardless of who was in charge? Tundra”
Absolutely not – but unfortunately reichwingers are at the heart of MOST of the recent screwings.
April 11th, 2006 at 8:33 pmTen years ago? Hmm, who was president back then? Could Think Progress tell us how this was handled by that unnamed administration from 1996 to 2001? Did that admin “feel their pain”? Just curious.
April 11th, 2006 at 8:43 pmAs did your initial rant on this thread…
Please point to the gereralization here? The only thing close is:
And I get told I am wrong about there being one agenda on this site.-Tundra
If that’s a generalization to you, read half the stuff you post, I mean just slow down breathe and read them. Unlike you I don’t hate either party. I also don’t trust either party. With such a narrow view of the politics you refuse to see anything that may go against your own party. Even on the rare occasions when you decide to admit that maybe a democrat may have done something wrong you have to throw in factless “Well Republicans are worse” (If you would like I can dig them up) For once just call a spade a spade. You would see how much your credibility goes up around here even with the trolls.
Absolutely not – but unfortunately reichwingers are at the heart of MOST of the recent screwings.
Well gee George, there are more of them, let me jump to a period in time where there more Democrats and make that lame statement. The FACT of the matter is since day one not one administration has taken the issues of the Native Americans seriously. EVERY one of them has brushed it under the rug and only taken the time to pay lipservice to them. They have not received the money they deserve and have been promised! I’ll tell you what, since I don’t know how to research as well as you do. Could you please help me find an Article where a Democrat has gotten them everything they are owed?
You accused me of Slander but still won’t take the time to open your eyes and view a large number of posting on the site here. The number in Parenthesis is how many posts to get to an Iraq comment.
Land war planning in Iran.(6) – Informative, I like
Administration Made Secret Agreement to Hide Reclassification Program from Public (30) – Administration Slam
Justice for Native Americans.(5) – Progressive, I like
Rumsfeld on Iran Today (12) = Rumsfeld on Iraq in 2002 – Administration Slam
VIDEO: Cheney Loudly Booed During First Pitch (15) – Administration Slam
America hits the mute button.(6) – Administration Slam
September 2004: Gingrich Blasts Critics of Iraq War Who ‘Complain We’re Not Winning Fast Enough’(2) – Former Administration Slam
63% (6) – Administration Slam
Will Chris Matthews run for Senate? (not addressed) – Just strange, but hey blog worthy
An Inconvenient Truth.(1) – Something positive, haven’t seen the site touch on global warming much except to slam people that don’t agree with it.
Wrong Again About Iraq: Invasion Has Not Sparked Larger ‘Democratic Revolution’ in the Middle East (2) – Administration Slam
Fox News: Immigration Rally Is A ‘Perfect Chance To Arrest Illegal Immigrants (19)’ »- Slam Fox news
ThinkProgress Readers Score Correction From Fox News (12) – Positive stuff, community coming together
Experts Speak:(8) No Good Military Options in Iran – Opinion, informative, I like
Only a PSYCHOPATH believes that’s an agenda of ‘hate bush’, it’s an agenda of LOVE AMERICA.
April 11th, 2006 at 9:27 pmUmmm OK, I came to this site to try and find out what the Progressive movement actually is. Now it’s like a trainwreck or reality TV, I can’t turn it off. Still no clue what a Progressive believes in from here (I have went elsewhere, but not here so much)
J.C., Tundra!!
Half of those posts had Iraq in the damned title!
You need to chill.
BTW: Ryan is against idiots only. He’s like a freelance writer. He calls’em like he sees ‘em.
April 11th, 2006 at 9:34 pm(I have went elsewhere, but not here so much)
Have you gone somewhere?
April 11th, 2006 at 9:39 pmHave you not visited here very much?
It would help your arguement if you were literate.
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Half of those posts had Iraq in the damned title
My point, Thank You!
All I said was it was the single agenda of the site (Before I was called out for Slander) and I was looking forward to a topic that didn’t involve it.
Of course you saying half of them have it in the title won’t incur a comment :)
April 11th, 2006 at 9:41 pmThen again???
“I just expected more out of a discussion about soverign rights than “But Iraq†-Tundra”
Generalization…
” Unlike you I don’t hate either party. I also don’t trust either party. With such a narrow view of the politics you refuse to see anything that may go against your own party. Tundra”
Bullshit. I think Lieberman is a disgrace, sorry, but you’re wrong.
“Even on the rare occasions when you decide to admit that maybe a democrat may have done something wrong you have to throw in factless “Well Republicans are worse†(If you would like I can dig them up) For once just call a spade a spade. You would see how much your credibility goes up around here even with the trolls. Tundra”
Actually that’s what REPUBLICANS throw on the site, now who’s generalizing?
The fact is most republicans in government are very much against indian gaming, indian sovereignty and paying for lost revenues to indians. It’s not a generalization, it’s a POLITICAL FACT.
“The FACT of the matter is since day one not one administration has taken the issues of the Native Americans seriously. Tundra”
Not entirely true:
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/html/20000225_1.html
Not exactly the best record, but it shows an interest and effort to help that just doesn’t exist in the leadership of republicans. Instead this adminstration has seen fit to cut programs. The food distribution program on reservations for the poor was cut by $6 million in FY2005 – a 10% cut! And health care received less than half of the funding needed to provide BASIC services.
Sorry, but republicans as a party are heartless, and their leaders are soulless.
You may not trust either party, but that’s the difference between not trusting a pot smoker and not trusting a murderer. You don’t seem to have any mediation for what’s a real threat, and a fake one, like most of the folks who support the reichwing side.
“Could you please help me find an Article where a Democrat has gotten them everything they are owed? Tundra”
America would never afford getting them what they’re owed, since the entire COUNTRY was stolen from them. But as for Democrats contributing to the solution or the problem, more Democrats than republicans contribute to the solution, and the opposite is true for Republicans.
” The number in Parenthesis is how many posts to get to an Iraq comment. Tundra”
This is one of the most important and relevant issues of our day. Just because you’re BORED with it, doesn’t mean it isn’t relevant to MOST political discussions. Sorry, but I remember the day when EVERY political discussion was about a blue dress. The difference is that democrats are at least discussing an issue relevant to the safety, security and identity of america itself. Sorry, but I’ll take this over one of those crapolla reichwing blogs that devolves into a clinton/kennedy bash in every thread in a heartbeat.
“Ummm OK, I came to this site to try and find out what the Progressive movement actually is. Now it’s like a trainwreck or reality TV, I can’t turn it off. Still no clue what a Progressive believes in from here (I have went elsewhere, but not here so much) Comment by Tundra ”
Maybe its because you spend too much time complaining, and not enough ASKING what people think. Even on this thread, you didn’t ask what the progressive position was, instead you just complained that someone brought up Iraq, in response to a whacko post from squishypoop.
April 11th, 2006 at 9:51 pm“All I said was it was the single agenda of the site (Before I was called out for Slander) and I was looking forward to a topic that didn’t involve it. Tundra”
If it were a SINGLE agenda, then no other topics would be posted or discussed. So your claim is baseless, and inaccurate.
Just because an individual person posts a comment, doesn’t mean the thread is about that. Heck I could just as easily say that ‘kennedy’, ‘clinton’ or even ‘abortion’ is the only topic of this site based on the frequency that trolls post their crap on this.
Sorry, but you’re not being accurate in your statement – I disagree.
If you say that Iraq is a strong and a primary focus of both the threads and the site, I’d say yes. But so would ~65 percent of americans who are totally dissatisfied with it.
No one forces you to either acknowledge or discuss Iraq, making you a part of the problem, not a part of the solution.
April 11th, 2006 at 9:56 pmThe President today, joined by tribal and congressional leaders, will call for passage of his $9.4 billion Native American FY2001 budget initiative, an increase in funding of $1.2 billion over FY 2000 – the largest increase ever.
Nice, the largest increase ever (Normally I would be impressed, but it took effect after he left office. This allows him to say that he did something and not have to justify it in the budget.
America would never afford getting them what they’re owed, since the entire COUNTRY was stolen from them.
April 11th, 2006 at 10:02 pmThat is the first time price has gotten in the way of your morals that I have read.
OK, Tundra,
You’ve now proven the meaning of your name. If you have nothing constructive to say, then go back to your (I have went elsewhere, but not here so much) sites that umm pointed out was oh so articulate.
April 11th, 2006 at 10:19 pmYou’ve now proven the meaning of your name
Well, thank you. I am going to take that as cold, yet holds a warm inner core that when nestled in the right light can bring life and beauty to those around?
I must say you have proven your name as well, when I see it I think of Barry Manilow. Because you are a Miracle, a trueblue spectacle
April 11th, 2006 at 10:49 pm“So “Tundra†is Native American for “One shut up by Ryan Neatâ€â€¦?
Ok, We will play your silly little game Trueblue, See me and Ryan often times debate and discuss facts. In this thread there really isn’t any to debate because we well pretty much both agree, the Govt needs to pay them. So we play an equally interesting game of slamming each other as politely as possible (makes the day go by).
Ryan slams Republicans (baselessly) and I ask for facts. He then provides a few because he knows there is no way possible to prove those comments (As well as me having no way possible to completely disprove them). We then get wrapped up in a Symantec debate and crawl around words and loopholes.
In this thread he only really provided one fact (He knew it was a long shot and I would call him on it, but really there is nothing much to say). He provided a link to Clinton’s parting 9.4 Billion (of which he proved 5 years later 6 million Bush cut). Clearly neither side really has a winning track record here. Even the site references pretty much slam both sides. I would be more than willing to hear any facts you have to help Ryan out.
Let’s start here.
But as for Democrats contributing to the solution or the problem, more Democrats than republicans contribute to the solution, and the opposite is true for Republicans.
Ok, here is where I ask for a list of every Democrat and Republicans voting record on Native American issues. If I don’t he tries to cite like 10 sources and uses that as proof. Now your normal Troll may shut up, but not me (SuperTroll). Obviously he cannot produce 200+ years of voting records (And I honestly don’t think he would want to). Since I didn’t state it I don’t have to disprove it. Basically this whole thread was our way of getting there (Which is really where we started).
April 11th, 2006 at 11:19 pm“Ryan slams Republicans (baselessly) and I ask for facts. He then provides a few because he knows there is no way possible to prove those comments (As well as me having no way possible to completely disprove them). We then get wrapped up in a Symantec debate and crawl around words and loopholes. Tundra”
Let me rephrase that for you.
Tundra slams Democrats (baselessly) and I ask for facts. He then provides mainly opinions, and a couple of libertarian sites because he knows there is no way possible to prove those comments (As well as ignoring the numerous facts I post that either discredit his resources like the FDA nonsense he posted). He gets wrapped up in a semantic debate because he’s been shown to have uncredible and unreliable resources while making wild and outrageous claims, all the while pretending to be an indepentent as he carries water for republicans most of the time.
“He provided a link to Clinton’s parting 9.4 Billion (of which he proved 5 years later 6 million Bush cut) Tundra”
“Clearly neither side really has a winning track record here. Even the site references pretty much slam both sides. I would be more than willing to hear any facts you have to help Ryan out. Tundra”
That’s a ridiculous claim. I posted a government website – so that’s a false argument. You’re really stooping to preserve your ego on this one.
Here was the FY2005 budget analysis of the impacts of the Bush cuts on indian needs funding.
# The Bureau of Indian Affairs would receive a $52 million cut for Fiscal Year 2005 which would affect BIA law enforcement, Indian education, Indian Reservation Roads, Indian Child Welfare programs, and other critical BIA programs.
# Education programs that benefit Native Americans, including the Even Start Family Literacy program, Tech-Prep Education State Grants and Demonstration Grants, Close-up fellowships, the National Writing Project, and the Star School Program, would be completely eliminated under the President’s budget.
# Tribal Colleges and Universities would receive a $5.5 million or 11.5 percent cut for Fiscal Year 2005. The President’s budget would eliminate funding for two tribally-controlled post-secondary vocational institutions, the United Tribes Technical College and Crownpoint Institute of Technology. Tribal colleges provide access to critical post-secondary education opportunities that would otherwise be out of reach to many Native American students.
# BIA Construction would receive a $68 million or 19.4 percent cut for Fiscal Year 2005. Most of this cut ($66 million) would come from the Education Construction account. Facilities in tribal schools have notoriously inadequate facilities. The BIA estimates that current backlogs in repairs and new construction for these schools is approaching $1 billion.
# Clinical Health Services within the Indian Health Services would receive $2.1 billion in the Bush Administration’s proposal, which is far below the $5.5 billion funding level necessary to provide basic health services to the millions of Native Americans who have a legal right to these services.
# Indian Health Facilities Construction within the Indian Health Service would receive a $53 million cut for Fiscal Year 2005 funding level – a 56 percent decrease in funding even though delays and denials of health care continue to plague the Native American community.
# The Food Distribution Program on Indian Reservations would receive a $6 million or ten percent cut for Fiscal Year 2005.
# The Rural Community Development Initiative, which supports the improvement of housing, community facilities, and economic development projects in rural areas, would be eliminated.
# The Native American Housing Block Grant (NAHASDA), which is administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development, would receive a $7 million cut in Fiscal Year 2005.
# The Indian Housing Loan Guarantee Fund Program would lose almost all of its funding – from $5.3 million in Fiscal Year 2004 to $1 million in Fiscal Year 2005.
# Empowerment Zones and Brownfields redevelopment programs, which benefit Native Americans, would be eliminated by the President’s budget.
# The Tribal Courts program within the Justice Department would received a $2.1 million or a 26 percent cut for Fiscal Year 2005.
# The Tribal COPS program within the Justice Department would receive a $5 million or 20 percent cut for Fiscal Year 2005.
# Tribal prison construction would receive no funding in the President’s budget, even though tribal jails are overcrowded and crime rates on reservations far exceed national averages.
# Water and sewage assistance in the Rural Community Advancement Program of the Department of Agriculture would receive a cut of $11 million – 46 percent for Fiscal Year 2005. This program provides loans and grants for drinking water and waste disposal systems for tribes. A similar program for Alaska rural and Native villages would be cut by $16.2 million or 58 percent.
# The Indian Land and Water Claims Settlements would receive a $25.8 or 43 percent cut in Fiscal Year 2005.
April 12th, 2006 at 12:54 amThat’s a ridiculous claim. I posted a government website – so that’s a false argument. You’re really stooping to preserve your ego on this one.
OK, your right before Clinton left office he threw someone else the bill he didn’t want to have to deal with.
Your rebuttal on the original point will be fine.
OK, feel free to redirect to Bush specific on your claim (But as for Democrats contributing to the solution or the problem, more Democrats than republicans contribute to the solution, and the opposite is true for Republicans)
Bush hasn’t helped the Native Americans, Wretching surprise there. I never said he did, I said they all suck. You came back in true Ryan Neat form:
more Democrats than republicans contribute to the solution
Again you post Bush slamming points (Hey here is a news shock I agree) But I haven’t seen anything you have posted that backs up your claim:
more Democrats than republicans contribute to the solution
Since as per usual you decided to come back with a response that was way off base (There is more to this argument than the years 2000 and 2005) and not simply an agreement on the main point that we both agree that they are owed the money.
while making wild and outrageous claims (I’ll add impossible to back up to it for ya)
April 12th, 2006 at 1:17 amBut as for Democrats contributing to the solution or the problem, more Democrats than republicans contribute to the solution, and the opposite is true for Republicans
You said it, Since it’s not such a wild and outrageous claim I’d like sources on it.
“You said it, Since it’s not such a wild and outrageous claim I’d like sources on it.
Comment by Tundra” Resonable requests.
Go here:
http://clinton3.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/native.html
As was pointed out here, McCain is one of the few republicans who’s actually ponied up on this issue. I think in general he’s a real fvck, but he appears to be doing the right thing on this one.
Why don’t you read what the indians have to say about it.
http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1071586985
Excerpt:
And then there’s the voting records from 2004 in the state of alaska (I’m presuming your base of operation):
http://www.first-americans.net/senate.pdf
Scoring_range Republican Democrats
100 1 11
90-99 2 11
80-89 5 4
…
So that means that almost half of all democrats in the senate scored a voting record of 90% or above on native issues – compared to only 3 republicans in the Alaska Senate. Democrats did not have a single senator that scored less than 50% of a rating, whereas the same is not true of republicans. So not only do Democrats in the Alaskan senate overwhelming vote in favor of indian affairs, but NONE of them have a failing grade, unlike the republicans.
You asked for sources – this is a great example of a state rating, but the NCAI organization rates federal politicians and if you really want to go prove it for yourself, please have at it.
If you actually believe both parties are the ’same’ and ‘all politicians’ vote the same, you’re on something. The record tells a different story.
April 12th, 2006 at 2:58 amAmerika can never be a nation with integrity unless and until complete justice is the reality for Indigenous people and their sovereign nations. These Indigenous Nations entered into internationally recognized and binding treaties with many countries (France, England, Holland, etc.) long before the Boat People that became Amerikans exisited. The 530+ treaties with what became the United States were written between sovereign entities. They have all been abrogated by the U.S.A. Every one.
Remember, the word “Indian” was meant to describe the place where colonizer Columbus thought he was. All of the Indigenous People spoke of themselves as ‘the real or original people’ and have origin stories that do not include a ‘Land Bridge,’ by the way. They lived symbiotically with the carrying capacity of the natural world, maintaining balance. Can you say “environmentalism?”
‘The Indian is like the miner’s canary. When their individual rights are violated, the rights of all others are not far behind.’ Felix Cohen, a giant of Federal Indian law, wrote this in the 1930s. By then, the U.S. had stolen the lands and created the cancer called the IRA (Indian Reorganization Act) and its flawed structure of elected Tribal governments.
Pay reparations to Japaneese Americans, Africans-in-Amerka…and ignore Indigeneous People. What definition of integrity is that, which is not to deny others wronged their justice.
The Department of Interior was formed after the Department of War had completed the active ‘Indian Wars’ and that speaks volumes explaining the view of the Dominant Society. The fact is these lands that became Amerika were not taken by right of conquest, rather by real estate transactions called Treaties.
Interior controls the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) that criminally fails to serve Tribes. Never have. Never will. (Its not about party politics, other posters. Get educated).
Mismanagement of the individual Indian Trust Accounts by Interior is the only management they’ve ever received.
I spent a decade in MN Indian Country working on Lands Claims cases involving not the rights payments for extraction from Individual Indian lands but rather the BIA’s active failure to protect title to the allotments themselves. The 1889 Dawes Act destroyed the remaining base of Indian land within boundaries of the diminshed Treaty, now called Reservations. So that corporatists could exploit and steal it, Indians were given land allotments. Most of the allotees did not understand the game and for trinkets and little value signed (made their mark on) warranty deeds and lost it. Land ownership and lot lines were foreign to Indigenous People’s seasonal movements.
Hold up a mirror for Amerikans to see the true picture. What is reflected back?
While $200 billion or, indeed, trillions sounds big, does it equal justice in your eyes?
April 12th, 2006 at 12:34 pmTell Tundra that the drug trade has found a haven on Indian Reservations. So lets cut thier funding for ways to combat this.
Ignoring a certain population or problem only ends up biting your own ass.
April 12th, 2006 at 2:48 pmWhile most colonised countries e.g. India are now independent and still retain their original identity. Places such as North America and even Britain(celtic peoples) have had their indigenous peoples blown to the edge of society which is THE SHAME OF HUMANITY.
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September 8th, 2006 at 10:20 amI am currently doing a report for college on how the US government is still not upholding its end of the deal when it comes to honoring treaties and trust responsibilities. Could some one help me by telling me where to look for an acual budget of what money was spend on Native Americans for 2000 and up, I have found alot of small blurbs about it but I need a breakdown of how much when to healthcare, housing, education ect. Any suggestions?
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