Hagel: Military Strike on Iran is ‘Not a Viable, Feasible, Responsible Option’
Hagel: Military Strike on Iran is ‘Not a Viable, Feasible, Responsible Option’
Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) has joined the long list of officials and experts who believe that no good military options exist in Iran. (Read the full list HERE.)
“I think to further comment on it would be complete speculation, but I would say that a military strike against Iran, a military option, is not a viable, feasible, responsible option,” he added. …
“I believe a political settlement will be the answer. Not a military settlement. All these issues will require a political settlement,” Hagel said.
Stating that no good military options exist doesn’t mean the U.S. should take the military option off the table. What it means is that the U.S. needs to get off the sidelines and engage Iran directly, as Hagel has urged in the past:
Iran is a regional power; it has major influence in Iraq and throughout the Gulf region. Its support of terrorist organizations and the threat it poses to Israel is all the more reason that the U.S. must engage Iran. Any lasting solution to Iran’s nuclear weapons program will also require the United States’ direct discussions with Iran. The United States is capable of engaging Iran in direct dialogue without sacrificing any of its interests or objectives.
Unfortunately, the latest reports suggest the Bush administration is turning down opportunities to begin direct talks, as it has done consistently for several years.
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Since when does viable and/or feasible impact the Bush Administration?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:07 pmNewt was on the today show this morning beating the war drums for Iran. Basically he said Iraq was bad, but we still need to attack Iran.
Not sure what to make of it.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:09 pmSince when does viable and/or feasible impact the Bush Administration?
Comment by unbelievable — April 13, 2006 @ 12:07 pm
And don’t forget “responsible!”
April 13th, 2006 at 12:11 pmWhat the problem? Just sell them the weapons. It worked for me.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:13 pmUnfortunately, the latest reports suggest the Bush administration is turning down opportunities to begin direct talks, as it has done consistently for several years.
Bush: Give up your nuclear program or we will bomb you into the stone age.
Iran: Fuck you George. We will build a bomb and we will use it against the Jew Pigs.
Bush: Boom!
And that’s how you handle insane Islamothugs before they can get a bomb. Any questions?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:13 pmHagel is the one Republican I’d vote for.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:13 pmThats nice Chuck….but when the vote comes before the Senate
You, Snowe and Chafee will all vote for it…why because you three are all talk and NO ACTION when it comes to confronting the misguided leadership in your party…
Nice try though……
April 13th, 2006 at 12:14 pmfor God’s sake, BuchCo, “show me the Diplomacy!”
April 13th, 2006 at 12:15 pmfor God’s sake, BushCo, “show me the Diplomacy!”
April 13th, 2006 at 12:15 pmSen. Hagel needs to tell that fast to Bush himself, because he wants to attack Iran soon! Hagel is being naive if he thinks Bush would negotiate with Iran!
April 13th, 2006 at 12:16 pmAnd don’t forget “responsible!â€
Comment by bluefish — April 13, 2006 @ 12:11 pm
Of course!
April 13th, 2006 at 12:16 pmAnd when Iraq debacle is repeated in Iran, Newt will be on future talk shows sputtering how military option against Iran was a “mistake”. It would be beneficial for America that Newt and his neocon war-profiteering cronies to just disappear. Better yet, round the whole cabal up for war crime trial at the Hague.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:19 pmThe reason there is no policy alternative between ineffective diplomacy, where one dissenting permanent member can hinder any action, and invasion is a direct outgrowth of corporations hijacking geopolitics after the end of the Cold War.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:22 pmUsed to be, under programs like COCOM, if any Western corporation sold goods on a restricted list to the USSR or nations under its control that corporation would be hit with a meaningful fine and even its officers jailed (i.e. Toshiba Machine).
As the USSR was crumbling, corporations developed nations (OECD) convinced that the whole world was now one big capitalist free for all and if ‘our’ companies didn’t get the ‘big contract’ with country X, the French or the Japanese would. This scared leaders into becoming salesmen for their respective corporate masters.
So now, if China or Russia want to destroy any leverage the West may have over a country like Iran (even as they express ‘concern’), its not like the other countries are going to seriously consider sanctioning China or Russia.
The world desperately needs a sort of COCOM II to give us a diplomatic tool other than war.
Time for a summit with all the ME players at the table. Responsible leadership needs to stop calling countries evil or terrorist nations…. Put all the issues on the table…nuclear weapons…Jerusalem, Palestine etc….enough of this war talk, evil talk, terrorist talk…the mess in Iraq should wake all of the world leaders up…
April 13th, 2006 at 12:28 pmIF WE BOMB … Oil spikes to more than $120 per barrel; Iran throws missiles at our personnel in Iraq and also shoots ‘em at Israel for good measure; suicide attacks increase in Iraq and perhaps Europe and America; Iran could use al Qaeda as a proxy for delivering bio, chem or what-have-you to western targets; tension rises between Russia and China, big consumers of Iranian oil, and the USA; the multibillion pricetag would further strain the budget and deepen the national defict/debt; also expect more military bungling from Rummy and Co.; plus further crackdowns on dissent and immigration, with more wiretapping, more extraordinary rendition and more torture.
And this will all HELP Bush and the GOP in the 2006 elections?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:30 pmGee cause this tactic has worked so well in Iraq.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:30 pmIF WE BOMB … Oil spikes to more than $120 per barrel; Iran throws missiles at our personnel in Iraq and also shoots ‘em at Israel for good measure; suicide attacks increase in Iraq and perhaps Europe and America; Iran could use al Qaeda as a proxy for delivering bio, chem or what-have-you to western targets; tension rises between Russia and China, big consumers of Iranian oil, and the USA; the multibillion pricetag would further strain the budget and deepen the national defict/debt; also expect more military bungling from Rummy and Co.; plus further crackdowns on dissent and immigration, with more wiretapping, more extraordinary rendition and more torture.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:30 pmDirect talks will do what? What we need to do is support anti-mullah Iranians who can peacefully overthrow the backwards regime.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:31 pmAn attack in Iran would not be as easy as an attack into Iraq. Iran is larger, the population is not nearly as divided. We don’t like their current leaders, and they don’t like them much either, but I don’t think we will be greeted as liberators.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:33 pmI think what we are witnessing is far more serious than people know. I think the military is fighting amongst themselves….hawks vs realists. There is a life death struggle going on between various factions in the government and it is about to get worse as more people/Americans realize this president and his cult followers are NUTS. We can no longer debate this as if we were talking to sane, responsible leaders…that is a mistake. We have a rogue president who is low in the polls, backed into a corner and about to attack Iran…no matter what the consequences. If that doesn’t scare you, nothing will
April 13th, 2006 at 12:35 pmBut would Hagel weenie out if it came down to a vote to go into Iran? I think so.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:36 pmIf Jesus came back, I WRONG I would beat and kick him and tell him to ‘get out of America,you long haired hippy!’
April 13th, 2006 at 12:36 pm#20 – It scares me shitless. Anyone else?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:38 pm19,
An attack in Iran would not be as easy as an attack into Iraq.
Didn’t Iraq and Iran fight for like 10 years with no clear winner?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:39 pmOh yeah. Bush is looking to the be the clown who heralds in teh Apocalypse for the Christian righties.
George W. Bush=The Apocalypse President
Start stockpiling tuna and powdered milk and get the duct tape and plastic out.
-GSD
April 13th, 2006 at 12:42 pmYeah. Why are you so stupid?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:43 pmThe reason there is no policy alternative between ineffective diplomacy, where one dissenting permanent member can hinder any action, and invasion is a direct outgrowth of corporations hijacking geopolitics after the end of the Cold War.
Comment by trblmkr
It’s nonsense to place the blame of failed (in your opinion) diplomacy on corporations when it is clear that countries always deal from a position of self interest. There can be no final arbiter of what is good and right for a country other than war. It will always be so. Frankly I wouldn’t want it any other way. Some things must be fought for to be appreciated and cherished.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:44 pmTundra,
they did yes, but Sadaam almost won that war. The only thing that really stopped him form suceeding was Reagan selling arms to the Iranians. The Iran-Contra affair. That was also a much more powerful Iraqi military then what the US militar faced at the start of Gulf War II. I am not saying that the US military would not succeed. I am stating that it would be more difficult. Iran is close to twice the size of Iraq. The population is not as divided, and I think we would find a group of people willing to fight for their country. Iran also has not had the same sanctions in place for the last 10 years that Iraq faced. Their military is most likely better armed then the Iraqi’s.
Just my thoughts. I don’t really have the time to look up actual statistics. Its a busy day at work.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:45 pmBut would Hagel weenie out if it came down to a vote to go into Iran? I think so.
Comment by Zookeeper — April 13, 2006 @ 12:36 pm
You could probably set your watch by it… The ‘public servants’ kowtowing to the Almighty King George.
What does he have on these folks that make them such passive suck-ups?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:45 pmThe Bushistas always consider force first. Their lies about wanting a dilomatic solution are to cover the money they want to chanel into the pockets of Hallibuurton, Boing, aand other firms that prop up their illegal administration.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:49 pmBoeing not boing. Sorry.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:50 pmSome things must be fought for to be appreciated and cherished.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 13, 2006 @ 12:44 pm
Yes, but there are other ways to ‘fight’ than bullets, bombs, and bloodshed. Like using intellect. Think the Prague Spring. The intelligensia of Prague managed to oust the powerful and mighty Soviet Union through words alone. A true ‘cold war’.
Pulling a trigger is easy. Compromise with your enemy is difficult. But if you and I could find middle ground, and even a level of respect, especially considering how we started out, then why not others?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:51 pmPeople power should be the answer. Two nights ago I saw Frontline. The show was about that guy who stood in front of the tanks in front of Tiannemen Square in China back in 1989. The guy had balls because he believed in free society. We should have the balls to stand in front of those tanks called Congress and the White House.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:53 pmWe should tell them to get it together or we’ll make them.
Hey off topic but important. Check out the new movie trailer for An Inconvenient Truth with Al Gore set to be released in late May. Click here: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/18…9257809/ trailer
April 13th, 2006 at 12:54 pmHooray for Hagel, who does occasionally put politics aside for the good of the country.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:54 pmYes. And sense we cannot control Iraq, what makes you think we can contorl Iran. You answered your own question.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:55 pmHey off topic but important. Check out the new movie trailer for An Inconvenient Truth with Al Gore set to be released in late May. Click here: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/18…9257809/trailer
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April 13th, 2006 at 12:55 pmHey off topic but important. Check out the new movie trailer for An Inconvenient Truth with Al Gore set to be released in late May. Click here:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809257809/trailer
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April 13th, 2006 at 12:58 pmrighteyes i always get such a big hearty belly laugh from reading your posts. i do like, however, the logic of simply eliminating dangerous idiots – what was your home address?
April 13th, 2006 at 1:03 pm#29 – What does he have on these folks that make them such passive suck-ups?
Comment by unbelievable
I doubt he has anything on them, unbelievable.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:10 pmMost of our congressmen and women are too in love with their jobs, and associated perks, to take a risk and do what is right for the people.
The Human Costs of Bombing Iran
By Matthew Rothschild
April 11, 2006
George Bush didn’t exactly deny Seymour Hersh’s report in The New Yorker that the Administration is considering using tactical nuclear weapons against Iran.
Neither did Scott McClellan.
Bush called it “wild speculation,†and McClellan said the United States would go ahead with “normal military contingency planning.”
Those are hardly categorical denials.
So let’s look at what the human costs of dropping a tactical nuclear weapon on Iran might entail.
They are astronomical.
“The number of deaths could exceed a million, and the number of people with increased cancer risks could exceed 10 million,†according to a backgrounder by the Union of Concerned Scientists from May 2005.
The National Academy of Sciences studied these earth-penetrating nuclear weapons last year. They could “kill up to a million people or more if used in heavily populated areas,†concluded the report, which was sponsored by the U.S. Department of Defense.
Physicians for Social Responsibility examined the risks of a more advanced buster-bunker weapon, and it eerily tabulated the toll from an attack on the underground nuclear facility in Esfahan, Iran. “Three million people would be killed by radiation within two weeks of the explosion, and 35 million people in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India, would be exposed to increased levels of cancer-causing radiation,†according to a summary of that study in the backgrounder by the Union of Concerned Scientists.
While Congress last year denied funding for a new nuclear bunker-buster weapon, the Pentagon already has a stockpile of one such weapon in the arsenal: the B61-Mod11, according to Stephen Young, a senior analyst at the Federation of the American Scientists.
That the Administration is considering using such a weapon against Iran is “horrifying and ludicrous,†says Young.
But it is now Bush Administration doctrine to be able to use such weapons. The new “National Security Strategy of the United States of America,†which Bush unveiled in March, discusses the use of nuclear weapons in an offensive way. “Our deterrence strategy no longer rests primarily on the grim premise of inflicting devastating consequences on potential foes,†it states. “Both offenses and defenses are necessary. . . . Safe, credible, and reliable nuclear forces continue to play a critical role.â€
Even more explicit is the Pentagon’s draft of a revised doctrine for the use of nuclear weapons, which was revealed by Walter Pincus of The Washington Post last September.
It envisions using nuclear weapons for “attacks on adversary installations including WMD, deep hardened bunkers containing chemical or biological weapons.†It says that the United States should be prepared to use nuclear weapons “if necessary to prevent†another country from using WMDs.
This is a mere amplification of the Nuclear Posture Review of December 31, 2001, which stated: “Nuclear weapons could be employed against targets able to withstand non-nuclear attack (for example, deep underground bunkers or bio-weapon facilities).â€
If the United States used nuclear weapons against Iran, it would be violating the Nuclear NonProliferation Treaty, which prohibits nations that possess nuclear weapons from dropping them on nations that don’t.
But in the Bush Administration, planning to do this is just “normal†behavior.
And a million casualties or more?
http://progressive.org/mag_wx041106
April 13th, 2006 at 1:11 pmJimbo, #33, I saw that special on “The Tank Man”, it gave me chills. Especially when they asked the college-aged Chinese kids if they knew what the picture was about. It makes you wonder if they would have ‘recognized’ the picture had their handlers not been there.
It’s so pathetic that such a hero can be forgotten/erased.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:12 pmMost of our congressmen and women are too in love with their jobs, and associated perks, to take a risk and do what is right for the people.
Comment by Zookeeper — April 13, 2006 @ 1:10 pm
But the People elect them, so that would be like doing the opposite of what your boss tells you to do so that you can appease the V.P. of the company next door who sells you your copier paper… Bush has no authority over them. As far as they are concerned he might as well be a paper sales man. It’s We The People who hold their security in our hands. And yet they abuse that. Doesn’t add up to me.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:15 pm#24 — Yes, they did fight for ten years, with us propping up the Iraqi side with all sorts of weaponry. Iran is a major military force, unlike Iraq.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:15 pmDemocracy Be Damned – Republicans Need Another War
by Thom Hartmann
George W. Bush is at it again. This time, reports Sy Hersh in The New Yorker, it’ll be Iran. (Those of us who guessed it would have been Syria first apparently underestimated his hubris.) And this time he wants to be able to use nukes.
In the novel 1984 by George Orwell, the way a seemingly democratic president kept his nation in a continual state of repression was by keeping the nation in a constant state of war. Cynics suggest the lesson wasn’t lost on Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon, who both, they say, extended the Vietnam war so it coincidentally ran over election cycles, knowing that a wartime President’s party is more likely to be reelected and has more power than a President in peacetime.
This wasn’t a new lesson, however, and Orwell was not the first to note that a democracy at war was weakened and at risk.
Continued at
April 13th, 2006 at 1:16 pmhttp://www.commondreams.org/views06/0411-20.htm
Didn’t Iraq and Iran fight for like 10 years with no clear winner?
Comment by Tundra
They sure did… and Saddam was even using WMDs (gas) with targeting provided by American satellites.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:19 pmAlthough I had to feed the trolls, IRI’s remark “There can be no final arbiter of what is good and right for a country other than war. It will always be so.” struck me as so ridiculous that I had to just say that the final arbiter of what is good and right for a country should be the decision of it’s people. That’s called Democracy. It will always be so. And you are an asshole, iri.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:19 pmPulling a trigger is easy. Compromise with your enemy is difficult. But if you and I could find middle ground, and even a level of respect, especially considering how we started out, then why not others?
Comment by unbelievable
I saw a preacher on TV the other day teaching her sheep that compromise is a bad thing… these people are not even adults.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:20 pmshould have been ‘hate to feed the trolls’…sorry.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:26 pmI saw a preacher on TV the other day teaching her sheep that compromise is a bad thing… these people are not even adults.
Comment by Gerald Gibson — April 13, 2006 @ 1:20 pm
Did she give a reason? Or was it yet another bit of bad information expected to be swallowed in blind faith?
I can’t imagine anyone teaching that compromise is a bad thing to people who live in social settings. She’s setting them up to be angry, disappointed, egocentric and potentially violent. Sad.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:27 pmYes, the sheep of today are tomorrow’s rooftop snipers. Feed the youth enough hate, they will be timebombs. I only hope the timebombs blow up in the bombmaker’s faces.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:28 pmDid she give a reason? Or was it yet another bit of bad information expected to be swallowed in blind faith?
No… it was not one of those things where she said to compromise on sin is to open a doorway to hell ….or anything like that …she said literally …and I watched for a few minutes because I was just waking up in the morning and was too lazy to get up and turn it off…. she was literally saying that compromise is a BAD trait.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:33 pmDear Progs – What “difficult compromise” with Iran is acceptable to you?? How do you propose “making freinds” with the Iranian leadership???
#5 – Not surprising, I think I-R-I has it RIGHT. I hadn’t noticed the frightened clamor of Iran wishing to engage in “diplomatic talks”. Because I distrust the Iranian government almost as much as progs distrust the Bush administration – I would be as direct as possible.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:37 pmMighty Aphrodite’s Diplomatic Approach:
a.) gather historical photos of mushroom clouds, Hiroshima (before & after), and Nagaski (before & after)
b.) explain that compliance with the U.S. and allied positions will prevent “after” pictures of Tehran, suburban labs, bunkers et al.
c.) should Iran choose not to “comply” – I would implement my friend, I-R-I’s suggestion, and “BOOOOOOOOM”
BushCo has no interest in diplomacy. You can’t scare people without something to be scared of. BushCo needs terrorists. Why do you think Bin Laden is still around?
t-mac
April 13th, 2006 at 1:38 pmIf you were pushing RAPTURE…what would you do to the globe? F*K EVERYTHING !!! And if they can’t F*K IT, they DESTROY it. Well that’s what the whole Bushco cabal is doing to civilization. In every direction and for a long time to come.
People who believe we are living in the END TIMES, should not be given the means to bring them about!
April 13th, 2006 at 1:41 pm“c.) should Iran choose not to “comply†– I would implement my friend, I-R-I’s suggestion, and “BOOOOOOOOM†Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
Why I am I not surprised we’d get a Nazi Solution from a Nazi Propagandist? In fact you sound exactly like how the media says Iran is supposed to be sounding to israel. No wonder the world doesn’t trust us with Psychos like you in charge! Your ‘glib’ responses, and inability to ‘emote’ for the feelings of other show up yet again. You’re a walking checklist of a sociopath and serial killer. You both need a padded cell you disturbing freaks!
April 13th, 2006 at 1:47 pmshe was literally saying that compromise is a BAD trait.
Comment by Gerald Gibson — April 13, 2006 @ 1:33 pm
And these are usually the ones who breed ad infinitum. For the prime bad example see post 53 above. No wonder the collective I.Q. of this country is in such steep decline. The fuckwits are breeding like there’s no tomorrrow.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:48 pmDear Progs – What “difficult compromise†with Iran is acceptable to you?? How do you propose “making freinds†with the Iranian leadership???
How did JFK handle the Cuba crisis? He put the facts on the table for the world to decide and the Russians could not refute it… they tried but were then caught in a lie. I guess you got to know something about truth before you can corner a liar. Also I believe JFK compromised with the Russians who did not like having nukes on their border either… a little brains… a little crafty showmanship at the UN .. and a little compromise should solve the issue… but no one will ever know …because Bush is too stupid to do any of that and so is all the people around him.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:50 pmYour ‘glib’ responses, and inability to ‘emote’ for the feelings of other show up yet again.
Comment by Ryan Neat — April 13, 2006 @ 1:47 pm
This from someone claiming to be a nurturing mother of four!
I have little doubt that we’ll see her brood on America’s Most Wanted in a few more years. No one this blood thirsty could produce socially acclimated offspring.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:51 pmComment by mighty aphrodite
So your ingenious plan is to make threats?
That is your BIG idea?
And I suppose you are the type of pussy that would bend over when threatened?
Just like George Washington did… ooops nevermind he didnt bend over…ok well lets try another… just like Jesus…oops again …he didnt bend over either …
I think threats are an idiots way of dealing with people.
You need to read history ALOT more.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:52 pmYeah, Bush is GOOD at scaring people with mushroom clouds. I remember him doing that to me! Do you think that the Iranians believe him any more than we do now?
Bush has turned himself into a paper tiger and the strength of our country into a sad memory. Sure we can nuke our enemies, but then what, babe? That was the same problem he had and has with Iraq. Short sighted solutions. Stupid confrontational rhetoric. Diplomacy? It’s not his strong point. War? With what army? Nukes? Are you really advocating opening that pandora’s box? Isn’t that kind of DUMB?
April 13th, 2006 at 1:52 pmIsn’t that kind of DUMB?
Comment by Solitaire — April 13, 2006 @ 1:52 pm
With God on your side you don’t need stra-tee-gery or mission plans or bullet proof vests for your troops.
I despise the notion that if there is a god, he’s playing favorites. It goes against the basis of all their religions, and yet they shout “God Bless America” in sheer ignorance. As him to bless your neighbors, not yourself. How arrogant and egocentric. And they they have the nerve to call us ‘evil’ because we wield peace, love and understanding. Sheesh.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:58 pmDoes anybody really believe that GWB is a diplomat? The man has no leadership qualities outside of a school yard bully. To be able to use diplomacy requires altruism and the ability to see other peoles points of views and the realities of the environment they live in. Little george has none of the attributes required to engage in any sort of dialogue with even the simplest of minds. He is a failure and we the citizens must now suffer his insolence. Impeachment is up to the citizens to make a reality because the legislative and judicial branch of the government has proven themselves unwilling to uphold their oath’s to the constitution.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:58 pmSo, those of you who are bushie supporters… Why do you wish to bring on WW III so badly?
This isn’t a video game. These are real countries with real people. The consequenses of acting out of ego are staggering. Get over yourselves.
We engage people, people we don’t particulary like, via diplomacy all the time. More so before King dumbya ascended the throne. That is how it works.
Iran isn’t Afganistan. Iran isn’t Iraq. We can only piss them off beyond your tiny minds going the bombing route. Why do you WANT to give them a reason to use their anger against us? Or are you now going to say that Iran was behind 9/11?
I can just see it now at a presidential speech: ” Our intelligence turns out to have been slightly off on 9/11. It turns out the documents we were all looking at had a N in them, not a Q. Iraq….gee, we’re sorry. My bad.”
April 13th, 2006 at 1:59 pmAphrodite,
Don’t be such a tool. Why are you so scared? We have ten years!
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/04/here-is-democratic-message-on-iran.html
For all the tough talk all these right wing hawks are just tring to cover for the fact that they are scared little children. You are in constant fight or flight mode. All you see is violence and distruction. Why are you so eager to kill millions of people? You are sick, thats why.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:01 pm“Wild Speculation (Fantasy Land)” is now #1 on the Top 10 GOP Sound Bites.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:01 pm#65 – They have to do SOMETHING to stop Pres. Bush’s “approval” rating going down faster than Rush Limbaugh on a pile of pills.
Of course, they all claim “We don’t care about polls!”, but then when you bring up impeachment, the first thing they say is “According to the poll, only 33% support impeachment!”
Double standards are the GOP’s ONLY standards!
April 13th, 2006 at 2:04 pmHas anyone considered the Russian, and Chinese reaction to a US invasion or nuclear bombing of Iran? Doesn’t Iran supply a great deal of Oil to china?
April 13th, 2006 at 2:11 pmWhat “difficult compromise†with Iran is acceptable to you??
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 1:37 pm
How abourt the same one attained with Khadaffi? Or a similar one?
How do you propose “making freinds†with the Iranian leadership???
Huh? Who said “make friends”. It’s about politics. You should know; do you make friends with the people you defend?
Mighty Aphrodite’s Diplomatic Approach:
(Insert babble here)
c.) should Iran choose not to “comply†– I would implement my friend, I-R-I’s suggestion, and “BOOOOOOOOMâ€
Iran is complying with the NPT -I guess you haven’t noticed that the issue is the Bush administration’s claim that Iran will, perhaps, maybe, potentially build a nuclear weapon -when they have no way of knowing the future, or even the Khatami’s current intentions. And that Iran will be able to build such weapon in 16 days -a bold face lie. And that more and more political and military leaders are saying that the military approach is not the best solution.
I guess you missed all that.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:25 pm#42 – It’s We The People who hold their security in our hands. And yet they abuse that. Doesn’t add up to me.
unbelievable, I think they count on the 50% (or less) voter turnout.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:29 pmLoser lefties on compromising with enemies and barbarians:
a.) “Your ‘glib’ responses, and inability to ‘emote’ for the feelings of other show up yet again.” Dear Loser – I don’t have “positive” emotions or concerns for Stalinists, Trotskyites, Leninists, Nazi’s, madrasah mullahs or radical Islamocfascists. You seem to have enough “concern” for all of us….
“In fact you sound exactly like how the media says Iran is supposed to be sounding to israel.” – Leftist Loser LIAR
Should Iran NOT build nuclear bombs – I do NOT advocate blowing them off the face of the earth – just ANOTHER one of your leftists LIES…..
Another baseless comment from a leftist spinster about Aphrodites kids, “I have little doubt that we’ll see her brood on America’s Most Wanted in a few more years. No one this blood thirsty could produce socially acclimated offspring.” How about tackling the thorny issue – which you apparently can’t – and let us know what type of “compromise” you would settle for with Iran???? (Notice how I don’t attack your mom for the way you “turned out” or how she raised you….she sounds like a sweet woman who loves you dearly.)
April 13th, 2006 at 2:35 pmThe fuckwits are breeding like there’s no tomorrrow.
Comment by unbelievable — April 13, 2006 @ 1:48 pm
With f&*kwits like IRI and MA advocating nuclear war, there will be no tomorrow.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:35 pmfor anybody doubting they won’t “go for it”
The Project for the New American Century.
this was written in 2003 – Will Iran Be Next?
and finally
Dick Cheney’s Song of America
The Plan is for the United States to rule the world. The overt theme is unilateralism, but it is ultimately a story of domination. It calls for the United States to maintain its overwhelming military superiority and prevent new rivals from rising up to challenge it on the world stage. It calls for dominion over friends and enemies alike. It says not that the United States must be more powerful, or most powerful, but that it must be absolutely powerful.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:36 pmDidn’t the British try that and fail? Empires never last. eventually they crumble.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:39 pmtrue…
but neither was invading Iraq yet Shrub and the Rovians went ahead and did it…
he’s still president of the united states and he is still – legally – able to do whatever he wants to “protect the country”
the rubber stamp congress already authorized him to use whatever force is necessary to protect the country… with that “magna carta”he’s:
invaded iraq
spied on americans
tortured
kidnapped
etc….
why would invading Iran be a great leap
April 13th, 2006 at 2:41 pmDirect talks will do what? What we need to do is support anti-mullah Iranians who can peacefully overthrow the backwards regime.
Comment by Lyle — April 13, 2006 @ 12:31 pm
that’s it. The people have a hardline leader they do not like just like we do.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:48 pmAn integral component of Diplomacy is COMMUNICATION!!! If BushCo refuses even to speak with Iran, how on earth do they expect a diplomatic solution to their idiotic actions of late? And yet, they get in front of the cameras, saying that they are hoping for a diplomatic resolution. Typical of them, and a carbon copy of what they did before invading Iraq. They are proving to be frighteningly predictable. Not good.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:52 pm“What “difficult compromise†with Iran is acceptable to you?? How do you propose “making freinds†with the Iranian leadership??? – MA
April 13th, 2006 at 2:52 pmGerald brings up the fine leadership of JFK during the Cuban missile crisis. Unfortunately, Gerald, you left out the LARGEST COMPONENT – Islamofascism in Iran is very different from secualr Communism in Russia and Cuba. Nice try – but several imporatant “parallels” do not apply.
“Dear Loser – I don’t have “positive†emotions or concerns for Stalinists, Trotskyites, Leninists, Nazi’s, madrasah mullahs or radical Islamocfascists. You seem to have enough “concern†for all of us…. Mighty Aphrodite”
Sure you do, you’re a NAZI yourself, as is I-RIGHT-I. And you’re welcome for my concern – as Nazis like you seem never to be concerned with anyone but yourselves. You’re a Sick and Perverted IDIOT!
“Should Iran NOT build nuclear bombs – I do NOT advocate blowing them off the face of the earth – just ANOTHER one of your leftists LIES….. Mighty Aphrodite”
Yet that’s not what you said:
“c.) should Iran choose not to “comply†– I would implement my friend, I-R-I’s suggestion, and “BOOOOOOOOM†Mighty Aphrodite”
So far all they’ve done is ENRICHMENT, and this is the COMPLIANCE that’s been asked for. Perhaps we can chalk it up to your HISTORICAL INACCURACIES, and VAGUE RANTS that you’ve become so famous for. Or maybe it’s just because you’re an INEPT FOOL and don’t realize what the current compliance requirements are for Non Proliferation. All in all, there are so many things you don’t seem to know, understand or care about, most likely it’s all of the above.
“How about tackling the thorny issue – which you apparently can’t – and let us know what type of “compromise†you would settle for with Iran???? (Notice how I don’t attack your mom for the way you “turned out†or how she raised you….she sounds like a sweet woman who loves you dearly.) Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
That’s because progressives generally do have sweet moms who are nothing like the hell b!tch you are…
As for the ‘thorny issue’, I’m sure you’d prefer to have progs solve your problems for you as you usually do – but we both know you’d just take the credit or blame everyone that we didn’t let you blow up another country which hasn’t attacked us. That’s the HITLER in your politics talking though. He had a similar view of his neighbors that you have of Iran – and used similar excuses.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the reason we don’t want Iran to have the bomb is that they might use it, and Mighty Nazi here advocates using it on them before they attack anyone else? That’s hypocrisy, and NAZISIM YOU FOUL WITCH!
April 13th, 2006 at 2:57 pmI know its hard, I mean the truth isn’t revealed in a sound bite. That’s the trolls problem – it takes too much to search for the truth so they let bill o’leilly think for them.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:59 pm#72 – “With f&*kwits like IRI and MA advocating nuclear war, there will be no tomorrow.” – Comment by Gregor Samsa
April 13th, 2006 at 3:00 pmDear Gregrrrr – You should have plenty of happy tomorrows to look forward to. Just don’t do anything stupid and become a “Rachel Corey” or Christian Peacemaker Teamate human shield in Iran….
mighty fool – you are one nasty human being.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:01 pm#59- Ms.Unbelievable, you are TOO right! Just look at Barbara Bush for the confirmation! ;)
April 13th, 2006 at 3:04 pmHey Mighty Moron, by your RECIPE we should have bombed North Korea years ago. So why the difference between your policy insights on Iran and those of North Korea? Could it be you don’t care if millions of Japanese die, but Israel is your own personal ’sacred cow’ of sorts? Why are you worried about Iran when our own Pentagon says they’re TEN YEARS from the bomb, when North Korea has one now?
Maybe it’s because your own personal anti-semitism and anti-muslim attitudes blind you with hatred and bigotry? Well that’s such a simple answer, I wonder why you’d never thought of just admitting it before. Oh wait, that’s right, it’s because you’re a compulsive liar who can’t even tell an honest truth about their own ‘fake’ bio.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:04 pm“Dear Gregrrrr – You should have plenty of happy tomorrows to look forward to. Just don’t do anything stupid and become a “Rachel Corey†or Christian Peacemaker Teamate human shield in Iran…. Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
Yeah, who wants to look like Jesus, when instead you can look like Poncius Pilat – like you want to be Mighty Moron. After all, what kind of horrible christian values like pascifism, and martyrdom do we want to teach to our children, when instead we can teach them that Nuclear Bombing an entire region is the preferred method of ‘moral’ poeple like yourself. After all a Bomb of prevention is worth a Ton of morality – right?
April 13th, 2006 at 3:08 pm“Gerald brings up the fine leadership of JFK during the Cuban missile crisis. Unfortunately, Gerald, you left out the LARGEST COMPONENT – Islamofascism in Iran is very different from secualr Communism in Russia and Cuba. Nice try – but several imporatant “parallels†do not apply. Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
That’s true, as long as Christo/Judeo Fundamentalists like yourself refuse to ‘compromise’, there’s no chance that Iran can be bargained with. The Reichwing Retards (MUCH LIKE YOURSELF) said the same thing about the GODLESS UNTRUSTWORTHY SOVIETS (I believe a quote from you?) – and yet a leadership with vision did just that. Whereas Dipwads like you without brain or vision never see opportunities. You only see the PESSIMISM of not being able to bargain. It’s why Israel is still a mess, yet why you continue to only blame the palestinians for the problem. You’re NEVER part of the problem in your own ridiculously childish eyes. And any attempt to present this is called ‘blame america first’ or ‘blame israel first’, as opposed to ‘blame america too’. That’s what a COMPROMISE is about. And you CLAIM to be married for 15 years – bahahahaha. What a JOKE you are. You’re clearly a stupid single straight man cluelessly fantasizing about the world through inept and ignorant eyes! You’re a FOOL!
April 13th, 2006 at 3:13 pmOh wait, that’s right, it’s because you’re a compulsive liar who can’t even tell an honest truth about their own ‘fake’ bio.
Comment by Ryan Neat — April 13, 2006 @ 3:04 pm
I forgot to tell you. It took her a month, but she finally came up with a defense. Said that she was spoofing when she told me that I didn’t look ‘a day over 17′ and that she is really a ‘bit older than 34′. What? 38? 42? Saying I don’t look a day over 19 or 21 would have been just as effective of a pun as the “arbitrary” 17, so I’m not buying. But thought you’d get a kick out of that. Considering she’s supposed to be an attorney and all who excells in extemporaneous speaking conditions.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:17 pmand let us know what type of “compromise†you would settle for with Iran????
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
You keep asking the same question, even though it has been answered.
Here it is again:
How about the same compromise as the one reached with Khadaffi? Or similar one? After all, Libya did have an active WMD program -unlike Iran. And also unlike Iran, Libya was most definitely linked to egregious acts of international terrorism.
Pres Bush took credit for the succes story with Libya (whether or not it’s factual is a whole other subject). Why not reach a compromise with Khatami as well?
April 13th, 2006 at 3:18 pmJust look at Barbara Bush for the confirmation! ;)
Comment by Cyra Brown — April 13, 2006 @ 3:04 pm
Do I really have to? : )
April 13th, 2006 at 3:19 pm#89- It was not meant to be taken literally. “You’ll put your eye out!” ;)
April 13th, 2006 at 3:28 pmUnfortunately, Gerald (…) but several imporatant “parallels†do not apply.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 2:52 pm
That’s rich coming from you -given that you tried to establish a parallel between the ongoing war in Iraq aka “war on terror” aka “long war” and the American civil war in the thread on Rep. Bradley’s visit to Iraq. As you say “several important parallels do not apply”.
That was as non sequitur as your thoughts can possibly get.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:28 pmgive righteyes a minute – he’s listening to Hannity right now to find out what to say
April 13th, 2006 at 3:29 pmUnbelievable,
Thanks for the followup of the many lies of Mighty Moron. I seem to remember that it wasn’t the first time she claimed to be 34, and in fact she said once that the Clinton election was the first presidential election she could vote on – so that confirms her age. That was 12 years ago, which would put here at 21/22, and she was probably 17, not quite 18 in the previous election based on her own admissions.
She lies so often though, she’s probably 17 now. Her level of mental sophistication certainly doesn’t appear to be any older than 17…
April 13th, 2006 at 3:33 pmIt is insanely outrageous and immoral for the BushCo and his morons to even consider an attack on Iran…what the hell, they are at least 10 years away from developing a bomb…In that time, surely some sane administration will negotiate with the Iranians…This fiasco is MORE about the November elections than Iran…Bush and Cheney’s approval ratings are in the basement and they believe that a war will divert attention from all the impeachable offenses committed by them both…I have news for them: Attack Iran and you will your LOWEST ratings ever…I pray that this insane administration comes to its senses? and avoids that so-called military option…what a disgrace!!!
April 13th, 2006 at 3:44 pm“Pres Bush took credit for the succes story with Libya (whether or not it’s factual is a whole other subject). Why not reach a compromise with Khatami as well?
Comment by Gregor Samsa ”
That’s BRILLIANT analysis – unfortunately it will fall on DEAF and DUMB ears. Mighty moron doesn’t have the brains ‘god gave’ a sack of hammers.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:48 pmI hope our Congress remembers how much Bush lies when they get asked to vote to authorize him to resort to military force if diplomacy doesn’t work. I seem to remember the same road to Iraq.
Our President is the boy who cried wolf once too often for this citizen.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:50 pmRyan – I take slight offense of her having 17 year old mentality – I happen to have two girls – one 16, the other just turned 20 – and they are in no way ignorant of their world.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:50 pmUnbelievable, instead of trying to jokingly projecting (lefties favourite supposition!!) to “be in bed with I-R-I” why don’t you play “hump the bump”" with your true “soul mate” Ryann??? With that suave, independently wealthy intellectual you could give up your under-appreciated teaching and “do-gooder isms…and bore each other to tears….in your burkas….
April 13th, 2006 at 3:54 pmI’m not really worried about Iran, Iraq, or terrorists. The asshats in Bush’s administration are more of a threart to our safety and security that tne Islam nation ever was. Its time for someone with some balls to stand up to this sandlot bully and tell him there will be no more war, no more wasted lives for some wet dream of somone else’s democracy while we slip into some megacorporate/nazi life style. It may be time to have bands of organized freedom fighters fight for democracy, liberty, and to take back our country.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:03 pmIt was not meant to be taken literally. “You’ll put your eye out!†;)
Comment by Cyra Brown — April 13, 2006 @ 3:28 pm
Whew! Good thing :)
April 13th, 2006 at 4:04 pmyou haven’t added a single thing to this site for months ma. You are just one jaded and faded ugly right wing fool. I feel for your husband. He must be one heck of a guy to stay with the likes of you.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:05 pmRyan,
Isn’t it nice to have a photographic memory? :)
She’s definitely 55 physically going on 17 mentally – at best. Lets’ see what new tall tale we get from her after this discussion. Should be amusing… as usual.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:08 pmWhile it may placate some, the fact that people like Sen Hagel are coming out publically against the military option in Iran, doesn’t really mean anything! The real question the media ought to be asking these guys is: Would they support Bush if he chose to use go ahead with it?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:10 pmI don’t know why anyone listens to what Chuck Hagel has to say. He always has these very reasonable remarks that he makes which make him appear to be such a credible person. But then when the matter comes up for a vote, he is always there supporting the Republican position time and time again. Frankly, I have tuned him out I think everyone else should do the same. I would sooner listen to Bill Frist who sounds like a right wing radical and votes the same way. Hagel talks like a responsible moderate and then votes with Frist.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:12 pmThat’s BRILLIANT analysis –
Comment by Ryan Neat — April 13, 2006 @ 3:48 pm
Thanks for the compliment but I think it is born out of “jadedness” more than anything else.
The contrast in the diplomatic approach towards Libya, on the one hand, and Iran on the other confirms to me this is not about terrorism, or WMDs -but about access to natural resources.
In spite of the rhetoric on both sides, fact is Libya always allowed Western companies to explore for, and extract, oil. Unlike Libya, Iran’s oil industry is nationalised and are signing agreements with India and China (the horror!). Also, Iran has the second largest proven reserve of crude oil in the world, after Saudi Arabia. Not to mention that Iran is strategically located overlooking the straight of Ormuz, and next (or very close) to Kuwait, Iraq, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia -the US would be swimming in a sea of oil if the military controlled that region via “enduring” military bases.
Contrast also Bush’s approach to another country that most definitely has WMDs: North Korea. No oil, no threats of invasion. Who would have guessed?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:15 pm#98 You are acting like a pig. Please try some decorum. What kind of people raised you anyway? Aren’t you ashamed of your trashy behavior? I don’t understand why some people don’t have any self pride.
What’s with favourite?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:15 pmUnbelievable, instead of trying to jokingly projecting (lefties favourite supposition!!) to “be in bed with I-R-I†why don’t you play “hump the bump— with your true “soul mate†Ryann??? With that suave, independently wealthy intellectual you could give up your under-appreciated teaching and “do-gooder isms…and bore each other to tears….in your burkas….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 3:54 pm
Drives you insanely jealous that I get along with both of them doesn’t it? Makes it even worse that neither one calls me stupid, I bet.
For your information, I have a degree in Architecture. I have my own money. Enough to live a comfortable life. I am not driven by money. I don’t rest my self-esteem on materialistic ideologies. I happen to love my job. Sure there are issues. But in the grand scheme of things, I sleep really well at night knowing I’m doing something I believe in.
And, also unlike you, I don’t value myself in terms of a man. If I did, I’d have accepted one of the first dozen proposals in my early twenties and been done with it. I just wasn’t ready then. Always figured I’d marry later in life. It was my choice. And that’s fine with me. So you’re wasting your breath on intended insults in that range. Why don’t you try something far less tired and redundant? I have my Achilles Heel. You’re just no where close. And I’m betting that you never will be.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:18 pmDrives you insanely jealous that I get along with both of them doesn’t it? Makes it even worse that neither one calls me stupid, I bet.
Comment by unbelievable — April 13, 2006 @ 4:18 pm
Makes it even “worser” for MA’s case that you look like Salma Hayek…
Salma…. hhhmmmm…..
;-)
April 13th, 2006 at 4:22 pmGood for you unbelievable – people never understand why I love teaching. It has nothing to do with money – it has to do with contributing to the world. That is something MA and IRI could never understand. Repubs are only after the almighty dollar.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:23 pm#102 I agree, Ryan is the BEST at catching their slip ups and so are you. That creature of the night is no lawyer.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:25 pmAnd republicans are always ugly. Or is it just that they are so evil it makes them appear ugly?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:26 pmMakes it even “worser†for MA’s case that you look like Salma Hayek…
Salma…. hhhmmmm…..
;-)
Comment by Gregor Samsa
You little tramp! How could you possibly send your pic to the resident wetback?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:29 pmThis ain’t about the “nukes” which is another diversion from the real agenda. Google Oriental Oil Kish. Check out Halliburtons ties to Iranian oil and how the new Iranian govt. busted their balls and still has Halliburtons money and their inside guy.
F**kin nukes???!! What a load of bullshit!!
April 13th, 2006 at 4:30 pmHow could you possibly send your pic to the resident wetback?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 13, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
Aahhh… more racist rants from our resident KKKer…
April 13th, 2006 at 4:31 pmPP, You might earn SOME (not alot, bit some) credibility when you criticize personal attacks and vulgarities by progs…I’ll wash my mouth out when RyAnne, Fat Daddy, unbelievable chomp on that bar of Palmolive…..
April 13th, 2006 at 4:32 pmYou little tramp! How could you possibly send your pic to the resident wetback?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 13, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
I love it when you get jealous :). But, you know better. I’m utterly loyal. You’re the only one who knows what I really look like (he was playing off the conversation I had with krazny yesterday in the War on Easter forum).
But really, dear, you should stop insulting my friend. And, fyi, he’s married.
You need a night out with the boys. Go…
April 13th, 2006 at 4:35 pmAnd for good measure…the cheesebrains in the oval are basing all the intelligence they have on info from the the guy that Halliburton bribed to get the oil contracts and this new “curveball” gave them the ‘reliable intelligence source’ that they are using to justify all the “tough talk”, bust your ass tactics. Iran is a long f***in’ way from putting together enough enriched uranium to make (1) nuke, let alone pose a threat to the continental US or the middle east.
Like their gonna drop on of those bitches in Baghdad…
April 13th, 2006 at 4:37 pmMakes it even “worser†for MA’s case that you look like Salma Hayek…
Comment by Gregor Samsa — April 13, 2006 @ 4:22 pm
You are so funny Gregor.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:37 pm#88 – Gregggrrrrr – Thank you for answering for the progressive “intellectual, unbelievable – she doesn’t need you to “rescue” her – remember????She brought up the generalization of “compromise” and I would like for her to expand her answer. Thank you Grgggrrr for your thoughtfulness….
April 13th, 2006 at 4:37 pmHow come i-right-i gets off all these racist statements & doesn’t get booted?
I don’t understand. Judd, you should modify their behaviour or get ‘em off your blog. Otherwise that’s gonna be considered acceptable behaviour.
ma – grow up. get a life. somewhere else preferrably.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:38 pmshe doesn’t need you to “rescue†her – remember????She brought up the generalization of “compromise†and I would like for her to expand her answer. Thank you Grgggrrr for your thoughtfulness….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 4:37 pm
I have no clue what you are talking about -I can barely make head or tail out of your rants as it is…
Your post was above mine. I could discern you were again asking the same question. I answered it again.
So, isn’t that the approach Pres Bush claimed to have used? Why not use it again?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:42 pmpeople never understand why I love teaching. It has nothing to do with money – it has to do with contributing to the world.
Comment by Jules — April 13, 2006 @ 4:23 pm
Couldn’t agree more Jules. I HATED Corporate America. And after 14 years of dedication to a career that constantly took without giving, I happily left for greener pastures. You know what I mean, and I appreciate that. That sense of knowing that given anything to do with your life (because really, I could never sit at home and eat bon-bons all day like Madga fantasizes of doing), what better job than teaching a child? If more people were interested in spreading knowledge, I think the world would be a lot less hateful. But, no instead people say “Those who can do – those who can’t teach.” What a sad measure of our culture. It’s why i makes sure the kids know what I gave up to be there with them. So they know that teaching is a noble and valid career choice.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:44 pmYou little tramp!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 13, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
Wait a minute… Excuse me, Romeo. But, he didn’t serve me cold pizza for breakfast. You have no room to talk if I did send him anything. Not one square inch.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:46 pm#115 Ryanne? That is juvenile. He consistently sounds loads more intelligent and only addresses your first given hateful comments. You do know that real men don’t find that childish crap offensive. Don’t you?
Remember, you come to us, deary; we don’t come to you. Who has the problem? Why would I say anything to Ryan? I agree with him and so do alot more folks than you know.
Why do you use the old English grammer? Favourite, colour…
April 13th, 2006 at 4:47 pmI agree, Ryan is the BEST at catching their slip ups and so are you. That creature of the night is no lawyer.
Comment by progressive and proud — April 13, 2006 @ 4:25 pm
Thanks. Though, really, she makes it soooo easy :)
April 13th, 2006 at 4:48 pmIt’s why i makes sure the kids know what I gave up to be there with them. So they know that teaching is a noble and valid career choice.
Comment by unbelievable — April 13, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
I always kept my law degree in my classroom. Yes Mighty Moron – I am a lawyer. I always told my kids that an education opens doors to allow the frredom to go anywhere and do anything their heart desires. I miss them so much and cannot wait to get back.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:49 pmHow come i-right-i gets off all these racist statements & doesn’t get booted?
I don’t understand. Judd, you should modify their behaviour or get ‘em off your blog. Otherwise that’s gonna be considered acceptable behaviour.
ma – grow up. get a life. somewhere else preferrably.
Comment by kindness
It’s expected and Judd knows that deep in my heart I love all humanity, just like Jesus. Oh, and my sister told him if he booted me one more time that he’ll regret it.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:51 pmWhy don’t you mind your own business anyway?
Gregggrrrrr – Thank you for answering for the progressive “intellectual, unbelievable – she doesn’t need you to “rescue†her – remember????She brought up the generalization of “compromise†and I would like for her to expand her answer. Thank you Grgggrrr for your thoughtfulness….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 4:37 pm
I realize you aren’t used to chivalry, loyalty or aiding one’s compatriots, but it is how civilized people are raised. Besides, I appreciate his and all other’s input. Not only not offended, but flattered. And since it’s my call – you can stop speaking for me.
Secondly, I gave you enough information. Try turning on your brain now. I’ve had enough of you for one day anway. IRI is going out with the boys – you should join them, boy that you are.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:54 pmAahhh… more racist rants from our resident KKKer…
Comment by Gregor Samsa
I wouldn’t be near as hard on you illegal taco vendors if you’d been smart enough to march with the American flag without being told to by the Communist organizers. You’ve got to admit that marching down American streets waving the Mexican flag was muy stupido.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:56 pmI miss them so much and cannot wait to get back.
Comment by Jules — April 13, 2006 @ 4:49 pm
Jules, I could tell you were brilliant :).
Question… how do you deal with them graduating? I’m new at this. I adore some of them and they are weeks away from moving on. And it’s starting to hit home. How do you deal? ‘Cause I’m not about to stop being involved and getting attached. Or do you just wind up with a heartache every May?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:58 pmPeople who believe we are living in the END TIMES, should not be given the means to bring them about!
Comment by Dr. Strangelove
People who believe that know that there is nothing anyone can do to bring it about or to stop it. But we do get a kick out of watching losers like you sweat.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:03 pmDidn`t Newt just say bring ours boys and grils now saying get Iran Haven`t they caused enought deaths already? They wont be foghtiong aother iqura this time Shame just to get votes.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:05 pmhow do you deal with them graduating?
It’s tough because you really become close to alot of them. Some students come back to visit – especially on homecoming weekend. I see some at malls or movie theatres around town. The best part is when they tell me how much they miss my class. Right now I am worried about a couple that went into the army. One was going over to Iraq and he was scared. I have lost touch with him and pray every day that he is OK.
For the most part though, I always think of every one of them living a great life. They go to college or a trade school – graduate and live happily ever after in a job they love. Hey – I love my fantasy land.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:07 pm#126 – Yes Mighty Moron – I am a lawyer.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:07 pmNot that there’s anything wrong with that.
I wrangle four of ‘em, that’s why I’m the Zookeeper.
Zookeeper – don’t they say the first step toward recovery is admitting you have a problem!
My name is Jules and I am a lawyer.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:09 pm#107 – “Drives you insanely jealous that I get along with both of them doesn’t it? Makes it even worse that neither one calls me stupid, I bet.” – umbelievable
*****I’m not surprised that a REAL man like I-R-I would appeal to you – I’ve seen the motley speciMENS (ha!) in the progressive, straight, single pool and those are pretty slim pickings. As far as “that other one” (the occasionally banned AND always whiney POS) – IF Mr. Aphrodite was such a vulgar, insipid little autocrat, I would be a self-made widow.
“For your information, I have a degree in Architecture. I have my own money. Enough to live a comfortable life. I am not driven by money. I don’t rest my self-esteem on materialistic ideologies.” – unbelievable
*****THAT horse isn’t dead yet?? Could you whistle the lyrics to a new tune?
“And, also unlike you, I don’t value myself in terms of a man.” – unbelievable
*****Your opinion of me is none of my business…. You don’t have a clue what I value – but you ARE very GOOD at slinging reallllly old feminist cliches….Mini-Aphrodite said “you need a new play book”. Such a darling child….
“If I did, I’d have accepted one of the first dozen proposals in my early twenties and been done with it. I just wasn’t ready then. Always figured I’d marry later in life. It was my choice. And that’s fine with me.” – unbelievable
***You’re not very good at long term relationships, are you?? Too much “give and take” for your liberated sensibilities?? Or else you want to be a really responsible “Global Citizen” and wait until after menopause to marry – wouldn’t want to reproduce a “limited resource user”. But if you do want to get married – you might not want to put it off too long – you know how poor the odds are after a certain age.
As for your Achilles Heel – You are entitled to your own insecurities…
April 13th, 2006 at 5:12 pmIt’s tough because you really become close to alot of them. Some students come back to visit – especially on homecoming weekend. I see some at malls or movie theatres around town.
That’s cool.
The best part is when they tell me how much they miss my class.
Wow – you are good. Math isn’t usually the favorite subject in high school! ;)
Right now I am worried about a couple that went into the army. One was going over to Iraq and he was scared. I have lost touch with him and pray every day that he is OK.
I hate this damn war. I don’t pray, but keep these kids in my thoughts. I have a few that are on the verge of goingand it makes me angry that someone would risk the life of this kid for oil and ego.
For the most part though, I always think of every one of them living a great life. They go to college or a trade school – graduate and live happily ever after in a job they love. Hey – I love my fantasy land.
Comment by Jules — April 13, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
Sounds good to me!
Thanks for your thoughts. Much appreciated.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:15 pmAs for your Achilles Heel – You are entitled to your own insecurities…
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 5:12 pm
I was right. You’re not even remotely luke warm. Cold as ice is more like it. You can keep trying, but I doubt you’ll get there.
Go away now, the grown ups are trying to have an adult conversation.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:18 pm“*****Your opinion of me is none of my business…. You don’t have a clue what I value – but you ARE very GOOD at slinging reallllly old feminist cliches….Mini-Aphrodite said “you need a new play bookâ€. Such a darling child…. Mighty Moron”
Are you kidding? Daily you make OUR OPINIONS your business just by being here you filthy douche.
“***You’re not very good at long term relationships, are you?? Too much “give and take†for your liberated sensibilities?? Or else you want to be a really responsible “Global Citizen†and wait until after menopause to marry – wouldn’t want to reproduce a “limited resource userâ€. But if you do want to get married – you might not want to put it off too long – you know how poor the odds are after a certain age. Mighty Hypocrite”
Give and Take? You haven’t shown that capacity once since you’ve been on this blog. You have however been caught in MULTIPLE LIES which prove it’s not possible for you to have Mr Aphrodite and your Life as you claim. You’re a fraud, and you were unmasked AGES AGO.
Only your STUPIDITY keeps you posting in light of your constant failures at all topics brought up. As for the POS, you would know if you own a mirror. That’s the real POS in your life.
“PP, You might earn SOME (not alot, bit some) credibility when you criticize personal attacks and vulgarities by progs… Mighty Aphrodite”
You mean like calling someone Ryanne or POS?
Sorry Mighty Hypocrite, but no one buys the trash you sell. You’re a FOOL AN IDIOT and you ALWAYS LOSE YOUR ARGUMENTS. But like most RETARDS (is that word politically incorrect enough for a NAZI like you to understand), you’re just to STUPID to know it….
April 13th, 2006 at 5:48 pm“It’s why i makes sure the kids know what I gave up to be there with them.”
unbelievable, feninst martyr.
****Please DON’T reproduce – I can just imagine you telling your darling mini-unbelievables all about your stretch marks – all for them…. Why are progs always trying to convince others how “noble” they are?
Jules – do I get a “yenta’ fee if I make a match for you and the Selma Hayak (not Freidrich) look alike???? I think you two would be great for each other. Both of you could try to outdo the others’ sincerity AND noble intentions!!!
April 13th, 2006 at 5:55 pm#120 – Kindness, you whiner – I always tell my little Aphrodites: if one of your siblings is doing something unsafe or DANGEROUS – come tell your dad or me. BUT, if you’re tattling JUST to get someone in TROUBLE – you’re the one who’ll be disciplined. You and RyAnne need to grow up and stop the whining…throwing yourself on the floor and kicking doesn’t work either….
April 13th, 2006 at 6:02 pmSniff—sniff “You mean like calling someone Ryanne or POS?” waaaaaagh…
April 13th, 2006 at 6:08 pm“****Please DON’T reproduce – I can just imagine you telling your darling mini-unbelievables all about your stretch marks – all for them…. Why are progs always trying to convince others how “noble†they are? Mighty Moron”
Funny, that’s the same thing I think of when I read your hate filled posts recommending we drop nuclear bomb and murder those who disagree with you.
You spend all of your time PRETENDING that you’re RELIGIOUS and NOBLE, and yet every time you discuss policy, you’re nothing but an EVIL and HATE FILLED NAZI.
April 13th, 2006 at 6:19 pm“Sniff—sniff “You mean like calling someone Ryanne or POS?†waaaaaagh…
Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
Very GLIB of you – off your meds again PSCYHO?
Hey, your crapolla comments don’t hurt my feelings, I know they come from a PSYCHOTIC. I just like pointing out that they make you a RAGING HYPOCRITE, and a BIGOTTED FOOL!
April 13th, 2006 at 6:20 pm“You and RyAnne need to grow up and stop the whining…throwing yourself on the floor and kicking doesn’t work either…. Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
Bahahaha, you’re the BIGGEST WHINER IN THE WORLD!!!!
Then again, what do you expect from a PSYCHOTIC HYPOCRITE, but to project your own SICK FLAWS on everyone else…
I don’t ever remember throwing myself on the floor, but you seem to have a keen familiarity with the concept. Is that how you got away with hooking in college?
April 13th, 2006 at 6:21 pm“Remember, you come to us, deary; we don’t come to you. Who has the problem? Why would I say anything to Ryan? I agree with him and so do alot more folks than you know.” – - PP
*****The few trolls who come here provide a valuable public service – you’d all be a bunch of “dittoheads” agreeing with each other….Of course, I don’t expect you to say a thing to Ryanne – consistency has NEVER been a hallmark of progressives….
Til later….
April 13th, 2006 at 6:22 pm“Jules – do I get a “yenta’ fee if I make a match for you and the Selma Hayak (not Freidrich) look alike???? I think you two would be great for each other. Both of you could try to outdo the others’ sincerity AND noble intentions!!! Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
Maybe we can fix you up with jeff gannon, we here he likes the ex-military types like yourself. And we both know what parts you have, even if you surely don’t know how to use them.
April 13th, 2006 at 6:23 pm“*****The few trolls who come here provide a valuable public service – you’d all be a bunch of “dittoheads†agreeing with each other….Of course, I don’t expect you to say a thing to Ryanne – consistency has NEVER been a hallmark of progressives….
Til later….
Comment by mighty aphrodite”
Dittoheads? So you think dittoheads are bad? Yet that’s exactly what you’re doing with your posts? You’re just agreeing with MSM and Republican talking points? So you don’t find it WRONG for Republicans to be ditto heads, but you feel it’s BAD for progressives to be ditto heads? Interesting INCONSISTENCY in your argument old RETARED ONE. May I suggest you pick up a few books on ‘logic’ and ‘reasoning’, because you’re just one giant NON-SEQUITOR after another. For someone who ‘claims’ to be a lawyer, your deductive reasoning is child like, as are your arguments.
And might I point out that with this posting, you’ve exhibited yet another symptom from the Psychopath’s Personality Profile Listing. An over inflated sense of worth for one’s contribution. The only ‘valuable public service’ you contribute is unintentional, and that is to inform the world that Republicans are NAZIs.
As for lecturing others on Consistency? Bahaha, from the person who claimed to be 34, with 15 years of marriage, a 14 year old +3 younger siblings, a College, a Law degree, 12 years of military service, and multiple years of practicing privately?
Bahaha, yeah, sure, you’re definitely the right preson to lecture on CONSISTENCY, or perhaps better stated as HOW REPUBLICANS ARE NEVER CONSISTENT.
You’re such a FOOL, and such a BAD LIAR.
April 13th, 2006 at 6:38 pmDoes anyone here wonder why that Gannon guy was at the White House so much?Is there a gay staffer at the White House?Or is it worse than that?Like maybe Cheney or Bush are poop packers?Hell the way these guys hide stuff maybe they all live in light loafers land.In any case why would a White House that considers itself above reproach morally allow this person so much access to the White House?How about weighing in on this one all you morally perfect right wing whackos?
April 13th, 2006 at 6:44 pmRyan,
You’re have serious chutzpah, dude. Madga makes my skin crawl. Thanks for standing in for the team. We appreciate you battling the dragon (or Medusa in this case).
April 13th, 2006 at 7:17 pmdear mighty tripey,
it must suck to be as weak-minded as you are. you fell for it — the lies, the manipulation. the ease with which you were duped meant you must’ve been one of the first ones to capitulate into the pit of ‘islamofasciophobia”. because you never heard a talking point you couldn’t parrot.
well, one day, your children will despise you for not giving them an opportunity to be much more than bigoted, brainless, unwavering hitler youth. yes, you dutifully ironed their brown shirts every day. yes, you taught them the virtues of pure breeding and aryan dominance… they should be grateful, shouldn’t they?
but they won’t be. because all you’ve done is taught them hate. never once should they question the rigid authority that ruled their lives. never once should they attempt to seek different viewpoints and understand why others are motivated to disagree. this is why they will hate you, because hate breeds only more hate.
there is only one true way: HEIL BUSH! SEIG HEIL! SEIG HEIL! BOMB THE TERRORISTS AND UNBELIEVERS! HEIL BUSH! SEIG HEIL!!
one day your children, bastions of hatred you created, will take their revenge upon you. and the irony will be that you will find it ironic. you won’t understand.
poor tripey, doomed to be betrayed by her own little beautiful brownshirt children.
April 13th, 2006 at 7:18 pmMA,
Go spend time with your spawn. I have no interest in wasting my time correcting your innumerable errors. Or pointing out that Jules is a woman with a husband. Or that I don’t care what you think. Go away. Seriously.
April 13th, 2006 at 7:19 pm“Ryan, You’re have serious chutzpah, dude. Madga makes my skin crawl. Thanks for standing in for the team. We appreciate you battling the dragon (or Medusa in this case). Comment by unbelievable”
Glad to help :)
Magda is a classic bully, which means she’s really a scared little wimp. Every point and every discussion (s)he does is based on the ‘art’ of ‘deflection’ – and not rational or reasonable discussions. And I was COMPLETLEY serious about the personality profile of a sociopath – magda completely fills the bill.
• Glib and superficial
( Think of his/her attempts at humor, and glossing over serious matters )
• Egocentric and grandiose
( Ah the aren’t you glad I make this interesting, you’re welcome for all I do, let me
tell you how I was parental with the mother of a client )
• Lack of remorse or guilt
( Speaks for itself. This whacko once said palestians all deserve to blow themselves
up by accident )
• Lack of empathy
( See above )
• Deceitful and manipulative
( Daily – that’s why (s)he’s so superficial, and distracting of what’s important )
• Shallow emotions
( Obvious – everything out of the troll’s keyboard is either guilt, hate or envy, that’s
about as shallow as you get)
Sorry, but Mighty Moron is a classic sociopath.
Check this out
Mighty Moron is 100% WHACKO.
April 13th, 2006 at 7:34 pmI wouldn’t be near as hard on you illegal taco vendors if you’d been smart enough to march with the American flag without being told to by the Communist organizers. You’ve got to admit that marching down American streets waving the Mexican flag was muy stupido.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 13, 2006 @ 4:56 pm
The Metamorphosis
By Franz Kafka
Main Character
Gregor Samsa – Man who supported his family but mysteriously turned into a roach one day.
Plot
The story begins with Gregor waking up in bed and finding out that he’s just turned into a vermin, probably a roach. Despite his state, Gregor feels that he can still go to work. However, he proves unable to do this when he finds he has so much trouble getting out of bed and opening the door. Furthermore, no one can understand him.
Dominant Philosophy
Gregor’s state before he turned into a bug contrasts with the family’s state after the got jobs and began working. This suggests the Kafka is trying to say that we shouldn’t work like bugs for others leaving out time for ourselves as Gregor had but instead work for ourselves with pride and dignity as the family did at the end of the story.
Franz Kafka (1883-1924) was born in Prague to middle-class Jewish parents.
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/metamorph/context.html
April 13th, 2006 at 7:41 pmunbelievable,
I was going to ask Gregor if his name was in reference to Kafka, but forgot – that’s an interesting choice for a monicker. I suppose it’s all relative when the dumb crackers choose “Right Between the I’s” and a PAGAN GODDESS / and or WOODY ALLEN CHARACTER while claiming to be a good Catholic girl.
April 13th, 2006 at 7:59 pmJust for the record, all these sob”s declaim, declaim and declaim . . . and then they rally ’round the flag. Bite my a**.
April 13th, 2006 at 8:52 pmI wouldn’t be near as hard on you… (insert long rant full of idiotic assumptions here)
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 13, 2006 @ 4:56 pm
You are making soo many assumptions it’s not even funny… you have now slipped into being a sad parody of yourself -presuming you ever were something other than a sad excuse of a human being, that is.
Also, it’s kind of interesting to follow you, a self-confessed cheating husband, who has admitted to using prostitutes, exploiting illegal aliens for cheap labor and sex, trying to gain the higher moral ground…
April 13th, 2006 at 10:04 pmUnbelievable, Ryan,
On a happier note: yes, Kafka is one of my all-time favorite authors. I was going to pick Mr. K as a monicker after the main character in The Trial, and The Castle but I decided it didn’t quite have the same punch.
Plus, Kafka’s works are centered around one central premise: The world makes sense for everyone except for the central character. That’s how I felt when the war drums were sounding against Iraq -it didn’t make sense to me, I thought it was obvious Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and the case for was was being hyped. Everyone else just sort of seemed to go along with the lies. Hence the moniker.
April 13th, 2006 at 10:10 pm” The world makes sense for everyone except for the central character. That’s how I felt when the war drums were sounding against Iraq -it didn’t make sense to me, I thought it was obvious Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and the case for was was being hyped. Gregor Samsa”
There’s nothing more insane, than a sane man in a world that goes insane? :)
I understand…
And I like the name.
And as for your feelings about Iraq, I understand. I reacted slightly different to it after I took a deep breath. I love history, and one thing about this country is historically with cases of this sort of extremism, the pendulum swings back AND HARD. My only fear was that it would swing so hard we’d get a Franco’s Spain for 40 years of Fascism. We’re not out of the woods yet unfortunately, but the beast of american public opinion is wakening. And historically it’s been ruthless and unforgiving for those who betray it.
It’s part of why you get McCain acting skittish, all the while pandering. He’s as schizoid as MizzWrong who wants to be ‘moral’, while struggling with his pedophilia and/or other latent ‘urges’.
April 13th, 2006 at 10:21 pmGregor, unbelievable, Ryan, etc.:
April 13th, 2006 at 10:30 pmWhile I realize it’s very tempting to reply to Mighty Hypocrite’s outrageous statements, probably the best thing to do is to ignore this creature as much as possible. Either he/she/it really just wants attention, or is being paid by Karl Rove or someone else in the RNC to disrupt this site. How else can one explain a person supposedly with a full-time career as an attorney, with a loving husband and four darling kids spending so much time trolling here, asking the same questions over and over and changing the subject whenever he/she/it gets stuck for a decent answer?
It may be a mere coincidence, but a few other trolls shut up after I pointed out that the Bush administration doesn’t have enough translators of Arabic, etc. to deal with the calls/e-mails it intercepts in the first place. But Mighty just went on to criticize a comparison I never made between Japanese and Iranian/Arabic culture and then change the subject to nuclear Iran–a question I won’t give him/her/it the honor of answering. Let’s try not to give Mighty the attention he/she/it craves; that might make the pitiful creature disappear.
Lora,
Mighty Moron is a Sociopath who should be committed – that’s the explanation. See post 153, and I’m not being Glib, I’m quite serious. (S)he exhibits all of the signs of a truly disturbed individual.
April 13th, 2006 at 10:34 pmSo back to the thread, we’ve wasted enough time with the single digit IQ Republican trolls.
So Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) has finally started to grow a pair. He must be in for a close election for him to finally start acting like a servant of the american people, instead of Rubber Stamp Monkey like the republicans in Congress have been for the last 5 years.
The republican party is a DISGRACE to the body politic.
April 13th, 2006 at 10:39 pmLora,
I keep repeating that to myself, yet I keep falling into temptation (bad Gregor, bad!).
Usually I try to make a point and move on, just so I can include links and information that I think are relevant to the topic of the thread.
But sometimes… they get the best of me…
On topic,
I wonder if the tide is finally turning or if Pres Bush will be allowed to get away with another illegal invasion.
April 13th, 2006 at 10:49 pmGregor,
The latest polls say they don’t trust bush with Iran, and now a minority is in favor of invading Iran – compared to a majority only a few short weeks ago.
America is definitely waking up, and only Amerikkka is left supporting Bush.
April 13th, 2006 at 11:49 pmI think Mighty Moron is a paid Bush loving troll, but I-Right-I is a maniac in need of thorizine > lol. You have to get paid some money to hang on TP defending the Bush Regime > nobody would do it for free!
April 14th, 2006 at 12:51 amIt would be easiest to say that Dumbya Bush has Attention Deficiency Syndrome. Before completing the job he set out to do in Afghanistan and catch bin Laden (bin who?), he ordered an invasion of Iraq. Now with the situation still a total mess in Iraq, he is obviously itching to attack Iran. He’s like a spoiled child who easily tires of his (military) toys. But, of course, I realize there are more sinister things at work here than mere ADS–especially with Darth Cheney and Rummy Dumbsfeld around.
April 14th, 2006 at 3:12 amRyan + Gregor,
I’ve never read the story, but Kafta is one of the greats, and thought it wouldn’t hurt to point out that Gregor Samsa is not a Mexican name :) Brilliant screen name, and like you and Ryan, I understand the feeling of not being understood. Who’d have thought there were burdens to accompany educating yourself?
I guess I try to cut most everybody a break, as life is difficult. But I just am at the point that I can’t stand MA. She is closed minded and Lora is right – it’s a waste of time trying to communicate. She’s only here to 1) get attention and 2) put other people down to feel better about herself. We all have better things to do with our time, and lately we seem to have a couple new conservatives who are able to have a real discussion. Better to talk with them than her.
As for IRI, I’m not going to get into the middle of ya’ll’s issues. He and I have found some common ground that doesn’t include (usually) insults.
But, as always, I enjoy hearing what you guys have to say. I’ve learned a lot from both of you and value your input. Makes me feel more understood, you know?
I’m hoping that the country is finally catching on to the mischief in the White House. But I won’t believe it until I actually see the change happen. 2004 is still a fresh reminder of how easily the sheep will be motivated by fear right into the slaughter house.
April 14th, 2006 at 8:13 amThe wild card in the Iranian crisis is the Israelis.
I figure that if the Bush administration doesn’t attack Iran first, then the Israelis will, which will then give Bush the excuse to launch U.S. airstrikes against Iran.
In other words, while Israel might take out several key Iranian nuclear sites, if they launch a pre-emptive strike, it will be the Bush administration that launches a massive attack against Iranian targets, whether pre-emptively or after Israeli airstrikes initiate hostilities.
And all that will be left is the crying.
April 14th, 2006 at 8:37 amAlso, it’s kind of interesting to follow you, a self-confessed cheating husband, who has admitted to using prostitutes, exploiting illegal aliens for cheap labor and sex, trying to gain the higher moral ground…
Comment by Gregor Samsa
Ohhh…now you’re being really nasty. I haven’t confessed to any of those things, neither have I done any of those things. In fact I’m practically perfect in ever way. Oh, I’m pretty sure the guys who mowed the lawn at my old house were illegal but then I’m not positive as I didn’t ax and they didn’t tell. As far as having sex with them that’s strictly taboo. All the Mexicans I’ve ever diddled were female and had their green card. Olé!
April 14th, 2006 at 8:59 amIt is fascinating how the American administration has created a “self-fulfilling prophecy†and yet, most of the media seem to be either oblivious or blind to it, or maybe “none-sensational facts don’t sell papers?â€!
April 14th, 2006 at 12:35 pmThis is similar to the current assertion of the American administration, stating that “Diplomacy is their priorityâ€! Who are they kidding?
TELLING IRAN TO DO IT MY WAY OR ELSE, (THROUGH A THIRD PARTY) IS NOT DIPLOMACY!
Diplomacy means “trying to be†respectful, reasonable, logical, fare and negotiate for a mutually acceptable solution! You decide how many of these attributes does the current American Administration qualify for!
I haven’t confessed to any of those things, neither have I done any of those things.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 14, 2006 @ 8:59 am
Never confessed to doing any of those things, eh?
You said this in response to a female blogger:
Nope, not married. I was but the gal couldn’t cook worth a damn, was an out and out slob, lousy in bed yet still wanted me to pay her way and like it. I kicked her ass out only after she pulled a gun and threatened to kill my girlfriend.
I now have a Mexican maid and cook take care of the light work and a few professional ladies of the evening that I allow to do the heavy lifting.
It seems to be working out just fine so don’t get your hopes up.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 18, 2005 @ 1:47 pm
Justice Dept. Appointees Threaten Voting Rights
And you replied thus to me in a thread about Walmart:
Why should [illegal immigration bother me]? Illegal Mexicans mow my yard, illegal Chinese do my laundry and I’m sleeping with a little East German gal who’s student visa has expired. Besides, when did progressive’s (ratbastardcommiemofo) begin to care about illegal immigration?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 9, 2005 @ 1:58 pm
These Are the People in Wal-Mart’s Neighborhood
An illegal alien is someone who is in the US without proper documentation, regardless where they come from or ethnicity, you racist twit.
You are one racist weasel… and have been caught lying.
April 14th, 2006 at 1:02 pmI think that Senator Hagel is quite right about that.
April 14th, 2006 at 7:38 pmYou are one racist weasel… and have been caught lying.
Comment by Gregor Samsa
Not exactly a lie but thanks for going to the trouble to dig all that up. While you were wasting time trying to one-up me I was busy screwing your sister. Olé!
April 15th, 2006 at 11:21 amHow to say “Please bomb us back into the stone age” in Farsi…
Iran said it could defeat any American military action over its controversial nuclear drive, in one of the Islamic regime’s boldest challenges yet to the United States.
“You can start a war but it won’t be you who finishes it,” said General Yahya Rahim Safavi, the head of the Revolutionary Guards and among the regime’s most powerful figures.
“The Americans know better than anyone that their troops in the region and in Iraq are vulnerable. I would advise them not to commit such a strategic error,” he told reporters on the sidelines of a pro-Palestinian conference in Tehran.
The United States accuses Iran of using an atomic energy drive as a mask for weapons development. Last weekend US news reports said President George W. Bush’s administration was refining plans for preventive strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities.
“I would advise them to first get out of their quagmire in Iraq before getting into an even bigger one,” General Safavi said with a grin.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/15/060415084241.xdv0o3w3.html
TEHRAN, Iran
The president of Iran again lashed out at Israel on Friday and said it was “heading toward annihilation,” just days after Tehran raised fears about its nuclear activities by saying it successfully enriched uranium for the first time.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Israel a “permanent threat” to the Middle East that will “soon” be liberated. He also appeared to again question whether the Holocaust really happened.
“Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation,” Ahmadinejad said at the opening of a conference in support of the Palestinians. “The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm.”
Ahmadinejad provoked a world outcry in October when he said Israel should be “wiped off the map.”
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/14/D8GVSUC0H.html
April 15th, 2006 at 11:33 amI-R-I: One of the reasons I have always believed the United Startes was so wonderfully blessed was its committment to our ally, Israel. The “Chosen People” often wonder “why couldn’t God choose someone else..” As a patriotic American and devout Gentile, you understand the special relationship between the God of our Fathers and His children, Israel. (They are not loved more – but their history gives Jews a special relationship.) Just to let you know, Mr.Aphrodite thought your comments in post #5 should be memorized and implemented by the diplomatic corps!! He did say you were “his new hero” – his ultimate comliment…He’s taking the kids for their Easter shoes and I’ve just finished their baskets….Have a wonderful
April 15th, 2006 at 3:08 pmTo unbelievable,
April 15th, 2006 at 5:59 pmI already stated on another thread why I doubt that Mighty Hypocrite is a woman–particularly one with a professional degree. Another reason I would like to add is her/his/its frequent reference to you as a “spinster.” With all the lifestyle choices available today, do you know any other woman supposedly in her 30s (”a tad older than 34″) or even 40s who call unmarried women in their 30s, 40s or even 50s with successful careers “spinsters?” I don’t.
The last time I can even remember seeing “spinster” written out was when a Japanese woman a few decades ago asked me to look over and correct, if necessary, her application for some summer study program in the US. In the column “Marital Status” she had written “None, spinster.” After chuckling a bit, I explained to her that at all of 23, she was hardly a “spinster” by any standards.
Back on thread, North Korea already boasts of having a bomb, and it’s ruled by a very cruel dictator, who not only kills opponents but leaves a good percentage of the population to die by starvation. Yet the neo-CONs show no interest in it. Could it because be, unlike Iraq and Iran, it lacks resources that the Halliburton crowd crave?
Dear Lora – “Yet the neo-CONs show no interest in it (N. Korea)”…. I suppose you don’t consider trying to persuade North Korea to participate in 6-way talks “a show of interest”?
As usual, progs think “oil” is an illegitimate interest – contrary to your opinion, it is a vital national interest. You didn’t major or minor in economics did you???
April 15th, 2006 at 8:11 pm#177
April 15th, 2006 at 8:34 pmNorth Korea is clearly a very minor thing on the neo-CON agenda compared to oil-rich countries, although it is ruled by a dictator just as cruel–or even crueler than–Saddam Hussein.
As for oil, didn’t your hero Dumbya Bush himself say that the US ought to get off its addiction to oil?
Beyond that, I feel no obligation to reply to the questions of a person too stupid to see the need for translators/interpreters capable of rendering telephone calls/e-mails intercepted from terrorist suspects into English. I realize such cerebral work isn’t as sexy or likely to get testerone flowing as lobbing bombs, but it is actually the most basic step in fighting terror.
I-R-I: One of the reasons I have always believed the United Startes was so wonderfully blessed was its committment to our ally, Israel. The “Chosen Peopleâ€
America from day one has been a safe haven for Israel like no other place on earth, until lately that is. There were Jewish signatories to the Constitution and more than a few bought their freedom and ours with their blood. The USA does not seem to figure prominently if at all in scripture but I don’t think there’s any denying the blessings the Creator of the Universe has bestowed on this land and her people. The Euroscum, the Left Wing American fuckwits and the godless heathen bastards of the Middle East have been warned. And I’ll tell them one more time so that their blood is on their own heads;
“And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Gen 12:3
It’s pretty simple, no? The feckless Germans have forgotten already what happens to you when you make yourself into a Haman.
http://www.keyway.ca/htm2001/20010107.htm
often wonder “why couldn’t God choose someone else..â€
Because God made a deal with Abraham and because it was through his line that God would provide a savior for all mankind. The Jewish people can never be destroyed as God still has a future for them.
As a patriotic American and devout Gentile, you understand the special relationship between the God of our Fathers and His children, Israel. (They are not loved more – but their history gives Jews a special relationship.)
Ah, to tell you the truth I’m very happy not being one of the “Chosen”. All through history from Genesis through 2006 our Lord has used those people as a lesson to the rest of us, and of course much more. Ogden Nash wrote; “How odd of God, to choose the Jews.” Not at all odd really. The Jews exemplified everything that is good and is bad about fallen humanity and gave Him the opportunity to introduce Himself to the world through Israel. It’s a lousy job but somebody had to do it. All I can say is, good job but now your Creator is calling you.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
Joh 13:20
Just to let you know, Mr.Aphrodite thought your comments in post #5 should be memorized and implemented by the diplomatic corps!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Please thank Himself for me. I’m afraid though that the scenario where the USA takes her commitment to Israel all the way is becoming less likely as the years go by. In my opinion the satanic urge to kill the Jews is once again gaining strength and this time it has a solid base in the USA through the Transnational Progressive movement (Filthy Left) who internationally is closely allied with the fanatics in the Muslim world. In some instances they are even subservient to the Muslims.
Israel is in for a rough ride and anyone who protects her will be forced to make some very tough and costly choices. Can you imagine how many people on this board would be willing to pay $10 gas because America has chosen to go to war on the side of Israel? We are in for a rough ride and I’ll tell you the truth, Israel as we know it today may not survive another 20 years. And no, that idea or outcome does not conflict with my fundamentalist pre-millennial understanding of re-born Israel. Just in case you wondered.
Oh, by the way. The Walking Dead Losers sure have been hard on you lately. Keep up the good work!!! USA! USA! USA!
April 15th, 2006 at 8:44 pm#177
North Korea is clearly a very minor thing on the neo-CON agenda compared to oil-rich countries, although it is ruled by a dictator just as cruel–or even crueler than–Saddam Hussein.
Comment by Lora
See what I mean Goddess? These left wing fuckwits are now blaming the Joooooz (Neo-cons) for NOT bombing North Korea. You poor bastards can’t win for losing.
April 15th, 2006 at 8:52 pm#181 Iam-aWRONG-Idiot,
April 15th, 2006 at 9:20 pmI never said that the US ought to have bombed North Korea. I only pointed out that if Dumbya’s latest excuse for invading Iraq, after WMDs weren’t found, was because Saddam is an evil dictator who murders his citizens, the same should have easily applied to North Korea’s Kim Jong Il–meaning that it was just another B.S. excuse. However, I realize subtlety is too much for a Kool-Aid drinker to fathom.
Incidentally, I favor Israel’s right to exist. But the US Constitution does not note a special relationship with Israel (which didn’t exist as a nation at the time). Our duty as Americans is first and foremost to uphold the US Constitution–not the Bible, plain and clear.
Nope, not married. I was but the gal couldn’t cook worth a damn, was an out and out slob, lousy in bed yet still wanted me to pay her way and like it. I kicked her ass out only after she pulled a gun and threatened to kill my girlfriend.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 18, 2005 @ 1:47 pm
You still wanna talk to me about finer moments?
April 15th, 2006 at 10:34 pmNot exactly a lie
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 15, 2006 @ 11:21 am
Au contraire, that’s exactly what a lie is. If you say “I did X”, and then say “I have never done or claimed to have done X”, either the confession or the denial is a lie. Either way, it is a lie. You are a fake and a liar. Olé!
thanks for going to the trouble to dig all that up.
You’re welcome. And it was no trouble at all; your rubbish and senseless tripe are all over this blog, you pathetic liar. Olé!
While you were wasting time trying to one-up me I was busy screwing your sister. Olé!
I didn’t “try” to “one-up” you. I absolutely did. I proved you are a wanton, bald-faced, scruplesless liar. Not only that, you “one-downed” yourself when you mentioned my family, hence making my case for me. Last time I heard that weak, innefectual comeback I was in high school (you did graduate from high school, didn’t you?) . Better think of another, more mature retort or (idea!) another lie. Olé!
April 16th, 2006 at 1:30 amI already stated on another thread why I doubt that Mighty Hypocrite is a woman–particularly one with a professional degree.
Although I wish I could forget, I remember :) You made a very case. I no longer doubt that he is a transgender man who spends his time foolishly rather than positively counciling or helping other transgendered people. He could be devoting this energy into something positive, but he instead chooses anger, animosity and self gratification from insulting others who have what he wants – a uterus. To be sympathetic to this behavior would only be codependent to it.
Another reason I would like to add is her/his/its frequent reference to you as a “spinster.†With all the lifestyle choices available today, do you know any other woman supposedly in her 30s (â€a tad older than 34″) or even 40s who call unmarried women in their 30s, 40s or even 50s with successful careers “spinsters?†I don’t.
I haven’t heard the word in a while. By definition, it’s an 80 year old woman living alone who never married or had children and hates others who did. Not even remotely close to who I am. I wasn’t raised to have marriage as a goal. My father watched his mother go through 3 abusive marriages, and he did everything he could to instill a sense of independence in me so that I’d get married when I was ready and not because I needed some man’s paycheck to support me. I’m thankful for that. It saved me the heartache of a divorce. And it’s funny how many divorced women tell me that :).
The last time I can even remember seeing “spinster†written out was when a Japanese woman a few decades ago asked me to look over and correct, if necessary, her application for some summer study program in the US. In the column “Marital Status†she had written “None, spinster.†After chuckling a bit, I explained to her that at all of 23, she was hardly a “spinster†by any standards.
Comment by Lora — April 15, 2006 @ 5:59 pm
That’s funny and yet sad all at the same time. Sad that cultures still label women by marital status and not accomplishments. I used to work with a woman from Japan a few yeas ago who speficially left Japan to get away from the demeaning way women are treated in the business world there. She said that the first day of work, right out of college, the men and women were divided into groups. And while the men were taught business strategies, the women were taught how to put on make-up and pour tea. She’s been gone 10 years now and when I saw her a few months ago, she hadn’t yet returned to visit. I think she didn’t want to risk getting stuck over there until after her greencard had been approved. Can’t say I blame her.
April 16th, 2006 at 8:24 amI thought my comment in #181 would be my last in this thread, but I should point out that the Japanese girl’s mistaken idea of what “marital status” meant is something that happened at least 20 years ago. I think she simply opened a Japanese-English dictionary and picked out the first word, without quite understanding the fine nuances. That particular girl was quite pretty but lacking in any special talents. I think she managed to get married at about 26 or 27; I lost touch with her thereafter.
April 16th, 2006 at 10:30 amAt that time, Japan had the lowest percentage in the industrialized world of women between 25 and 39 who had never been married; now it has the highest. Equal employment laws have opened up new possibilities for Japanese women, though they still tend to be lower paid than men in most professions. And with better, though hardly equal, job opportunities, many Japanese women are choosing careers over marriage to some slob who won’t treat them well, though many of them still hope to find someone nice enough so that they can manage both. In the large cities at least, for a woman to be 30-something and single is no longer rare nor viewed as strange. Now it is supposed to be the men who want to get married and are having trouble finding wives; I hear there are even sensitivity classes for Japanese men nowadays.
To me, the mention of “spinster” conjures up the image from the old Frank Capra movie (I guess “old” is an oxymoron here) “Mr. Deeds Goes to Town,” of the two elderly maiden sisters who appear at the trial to determine whether or not the eponymous hero is mad or “pixilated,” in their words. If you’ve seen this movie, I think you will know what I mean.
me to pay her way and like it. I kicked her ass out only after she pulled a gun and threatened to kill my girlfriend.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 18, 2005 @ 1:47 pm
You still wanna talk to me about finer moments?
Comment by unbelievable —
Uh…that was one of my better little skits. OK I dressed it up a bit. There was no girlfriend, the lady was going to shoot me. It just sounded more redneck the other way.
April 16th, 2006 at 3:13 pmThat’s funny and yet sad all at the same time. Sad that cultures still label women by marital status and not accomplishments.
Comment by unbelievable
What is sad is that women (some maybe even most) don’t look at a successful marriage and well raised normal children as an accomplishment. I guess if you look at the divorce rates, the declining number of marriages and children and then look at the “average” kid these days one could say most women don’t hold marriage and family in very high regard. It’s too bad. It’s really the only thing they can possibly be excellent at.
Women are only second class, second rate and also-rans outside the home. I of course must allow for the exceptions as there have been brilliant women in almost every male dominated field of endeavor but as the rule and as the norm they can not compete with men. You people are supposed to get married and have children and learn and study and practice to be excellent mothers and wives. If God had wanted YOU to be different than that He’d make damn sure your dick didn’t fall off when the doctor first slapped your butt.
For more information please write and ask for my booklet, “I-RIGHT-I’s guide to Excellence in Womanhood” , $5.95 plus postage and handling. I’m also available to speak at your Church socials and soccer mom tea’s.
April 16th, 2006 at 3:27 pmUh…that was one of my better little skits. OK I dressed it up a bit. There was no girlfriend, the lady was going to shoot me. It just sounded more redneck the other way.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 16, 2006 @ 3:13 pm
A bit? Well if that particular one didn’t work for you, there are hundreds around here where you tell people, including me, to go retroactively abort themselves, to commit suicide in a variety of ways, and so on. I hardly think you are in any light to judge my standing up to a bully who crossed the line as my character flaw. If you were trying to piss me off, you did. More than you have so far. And if I didn’t need to bitch at you to vent, I wouldn’t even be speaking to you for at least a week. But then again, I wouldn’t want to be held accountable for your pain and suffering over that one :P
April 16th, 2006 at 4:26 pmWhat is sad is that women (some maybe even most) don’t look at a successful marriage and well raised normal children as an accomplishment.
Again, take my job for a week. These people live for raising their own children and the community’s.
I guess if you look at the divorce rates, the declining number of marriages and children and then look at the “average†kid these days one could say most women don’t hold marriage and family in very high regard. It’s too bad. It’s really the only thing they can possibly be excellent at.
Whao, you can’t blame only women for this. In EVERY relationship between two adults, there are two people involved. Maybe you got a bad deal. But there are women who get married and their husband turns into a lazy slob. It works on both sides of the fence.
But what I’m saying that you seem to be missing is that things that are obligations are burdens, and burdens are not a lot of fun. If instead marriage is seen as a partnership without pressures from society to be married, I would wager that the divorce rate would drop.
Women are only second class, second rate and also-rans outside the home. I of course must allow for the exceptions as there have been brilliant women in almost every male dominated field of endeavor but as the rule and as the norm they can not compete with men.
Bullshit. Period. When I was in architecture, when I had the choice to select team members, 9 out of 10 times I picked women. Not because of the bullshit you posted above, but because 9 out of 10 times they work harder to compensate for misogynistic little boys like you who spout the crap that floows below:
You people are supposed to get married and have children and learn and study and practice to be excellent mothers and wives. If God had wanted YOU to be different than that He’d make damn sure your dick didn’t fall off when the doctor first slapped your butt.
You are insane. My purpose in life is only determined by ME. It’s why I have a brain to decide for myself.
For more information please write and ask for my booklet, “I-RIGHT-I’s guide to Excellence in Womanhood†, $5.95 plus postage and handling. I’m also available to speak at your Church socials and soccer mom tea’s.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 16, 2006 @ 3:27 pm
Hell, you couldn’t pay me for that garbage. I don’t need you to tell me what’s right for me. You obviously have not one single clue. But, please, feel free to post your address in case someone else does…
Let me let you in on a little biological fact… actually, let’s make it two. Women can stand significantly more pain than men (think child birth), and it’s the brain that controls intellect, not the penis. I don’t need a willy to do your job better than you. Be glad I don’t want your job. (which is exactly why you’re being brain-washed by your misogynistic religion to think women only exist to wash your dirty clothes and like it. Funny how you didn’t like paying your wife’s way so much – considering that is supposed to be your Biblically assigned function.)
April 16th, 2006 at 4:47 pmI hardly think you are in any light to judge my standing up to a bully who crossed the line as my character flaw. If you were trying to piss me off, you did. More than you have so far.
Comment by unbelievable
I don’t think she’s a bully. She made a statement and the next thing you know everybody is calling her a liar or a freak of nature. Ryan “The Angry Transvestite” tries to be a bully and I’m sorry to say on this one you fell in right behind him. (Not that I give a damn one way or the other what gets said to whom around here)
Pissed off are ya? Hey kiddo, you know what they say, “better to be pissed off than pissed on”.
April 16th, 2006 at 4:49 pmI don’t think she’s a bully. She made a statement and the next thing you know everybody is calling her a liar or a freak of nature.
He made a joke about a dead child. If you let reason instead of emotion control you when it comes to MA (though with all that adoration he serves you I don’ know if it’s possible), you might have noticed. And you should know, she is a he. If you weren’t so willfully oblivious of transgender and gay people, you’d recognize the fact. Or haven’t you noticed that he never argues with the supposition?
Ryan “The Angry Transvestite†tries to be a bully and I’m sorry to say on this one you fell in right behind him. (Not that I give a damn one way or the other what gets said to whom around here)
It had nothing to do with Ryan. I read her comment just before I had to go do something else and by the time I got back, I went straight there and responded. I’m not a lemming. When ever will you get that?
Pissed off are ya? Hey kiddo, you know what they say, “better to be pissed off than pissed onâ€.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 16, 2006 @ 4:49 pm
At being unfairly jugded. Yep. And I think, in light of recent conversations, there’s a chance that it was intentional on your part.
Well, unless you’re into that sorta thing (I’m not, but certainly wouldn’t count you out :O . )
April 16th, 2006 at 5:11 pm(Not that I give a damn one way or the other what gets said to whom around here)
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 16, 2006 @ 4:49 pm
Then why did you only chastize me? Hmmm?
I’m never gonna be a traditional wife and mother. It’s not how I was raised to be and frankly, not who I want to be. I was fortunate enough to get a functioning brain that is better spent at a career than in the kitchen (though I do like to cook… but it’s because I enjoy it and not because I am obligated to do so). It might not work for you. But, it’s not your call. It’s mine. And, I’m very happy about it. Or I’d have gone in another direction.
You say you want a submissive baby machine, but really, it’s not the type of woman you are attracted to. Would be much easier to change your system than to try to change yourself to be someone you aren’t. It doesn’t even have to be radical. It’s just that you wouldn’t buy shoes five sizes too small and attempt to force your feet into them… So then, why would you try to force yourself into an ideology that is at least five sizes too small? Just an obvious observation. But, hey, if beating your head against the wall is more comfortable than change, than have it at.
Enjoy what’s left of your Easter Sunday.
April 16th, 2006 at 6:19 pmThen why did you only chastize me? Hmmm?
Oh please. I don’t chastise only you. There isn’t a person of interest on either side of the isle I haven’t had a cautionary word for including our little Jewish goddess. Besides, you wouldn’t want me to give you some sort of pass would you. I didn’t think so.
I’m never gonna be a traditional wife and mother. It’s not how I was raised to be and frankly, not who I want to be. I was fortunate enough to get a functioning brain that is better spent at a career than in the kitchen (though I do like to cook… but it’s because I enjoy it and not because I am obligated to do so). It might not work for you. But, it’s not your call. It’s mine. And, I’m very happy about it. Or I’d have gone in another direction.
I don’t think your name ever came up in that discussion. You do what you want just like everybody else. It’s my job to tell you how it ought to be not how it has to be.
You say you want a submissive baby machine, but really, it’s not the type of woman you are attracted to.
I didn’t say that. Besides, there’s nothing submissive about a real woman even less so when she’s the one that keeps the family running. You’re right, I eat the submissive types up. In fact I can’t stand them. I guess you’re not on the same page with me in what it means to be a real woman. I’m not surprised, you read too many feminist losers.
Would be much easier to change your system than to try to change yourself to be someone you aren’t. It doesn’t even have to be radical. It’s just that you wouldn’t buy shoes five sizes too small and attempt to force your feet into them… So then, why would you try to force yourself into an ideology that is at least five sizes too small? Just an obvious observation. But, hey, if beating your head against the wall is more comfortable than change, than have it at.
I don’t have to change. All I have to do is find some gal who isn’t ashamed of being who God made her. I know….lot’s a luck buddy. I’m going to tell you a secret….I had several of those gals growing up and didn’t know it. They were waiting for me to step up and I stood aside…(I did much worse than stand aside btw)…..to all you young men out there in the peanut gallery, take it from me, don’t wait, you’re not going to get any smarter and the women are not going to get any better. Go with the one that triggers your first instinct and stick with her. Changing horses in the middle of the stream is for losers. Trust me when I tell you life and love isn’t at all like the movies or the romance novels….unless you follow the rules.
Enjoy what’s left of your Easter Sunday.
Comment by unbelievable
You too Sugabugga. He is risen!
April 16th, 2006 at 6:57 pmOh please. I don’t chastise only you.
You did this time, and in a tone like you really meant it. Not in your usual overly dramatic temper tantrum name calling manner.
There isn’t a person of interest on either side of the isle I haven’t had a cautionary word for including our little Jewish goddess. Besides, you wouldn’t want me to give you some sort of pass would you. I didn’t think so.
Oh please.
It’s my job to tell you how it ought to be not how it has to be.
No, it’s your job to be supportive of how it is. It would be like me telling you that all men have to be lawyers or doctors and then constantly harping on you that you’re failing as a man because you are neither of those things. Wouldn’t you rather be supported for who it is that you are? Doesn’t that fit so much better than forcing you to be someone you are not? Of course it does. And what’s good for the gander, in this context, works aptly for the goose. It’s human anture to want to be accepted for who you are, not told you are wrong for being yourself.
I didn’t say that.
That nonsense you posted above said exactly that. Submissive is to be a second class citizen, even outside your own home. That’s exactly what you said.
Besides, there’s nothing submissive about a real woman even less so when she’s the one that keeps the family running.
Again – it takes two. There’s a reason there are two people in a marriage. It takes the input, support and efforts of both people. And the ones who stay married are partners – by what ever terms the two of them decide. Maybe it is a submissive wife and dominant husband, or maybe it’s the opposite – so long as it works for those two people. It’s their decision. Not the predetermined path of some desert dwellers who lives a couple thousand years ago. No one is a better authority on me than me.
You’re right,
I couldn’t read that, could you say it again? And again, for clarity? :)
I eat the submissive types up. In fact I can’t stand them.
Well, that’s a majority of the women out there. And it comes from patriarchal organized religion telling them that their duty is to be submissive. I don’t get how you keep missing that.
I’m not saying demoralize men and elevate a matriarchal society. It’s not either or. It’s about a mutually beneficial system that values men and women for whomever they are. I told you, it’s a woman’s prerogative to be a submissive little baby factory IF she chooses. My definition of feminism is that we support and respect a women’s choice to be herself, whoever that may be – and not to obligate her to cram herself into a one-size-fits-all ideology that doesn’t.
I guess you’re not on the same page with me in what it means to be a real woman.
Not by the stuff you posted above. Nope.
I assure you, I am a real woman. Anyone can raise a kid or two. Try helping to raise 120. Especially when you know that not every kids gets wonderful parents and a loving home, and there’s a chance to guide that kid away from self-destructive behaviors. I sleep just fine at night.
But, from what you posted above, I don’t qualify anyway. I suppose it’s to be expected from that 1950’s June Cleaver dictionary you use.
I’m not surprised, you read too many feminist losers.
I couldn’t name one feminist. I don’t read their stuff. I don’t need to. I have something better. Personal use of a female body and life. And that’s all I need to know what I know. And what I know is that no woman is a possession. We are all individuals, just like men. And we’re all perfectly competent to be whomever we want to be in life – just like men. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you’ll understand that we want the same freedom that you do. And the more likely you will have what it is you really want.
I don’t have to change. All I have to do is find some gal who isn’t ashamed of being who God made her. I know….lot’s a luck buddy.
You do have to open your mind, or you’re looking for a needle in a million haystacks. And I can tell you, the last guy I knew like that despite his exceptionally good looks, financial stability, charming manners and a barrage of submissives lining up to fawn all over him, is currently becoming a priest.
Bythe way, my parents “made” me. They had sex, gave birth and raised me to be most of who I am. And I assure you, I am not ashamed of who I am. I used to be. Ashamed of being the ‘weaker sex’ as organized religion deemed. Ashamed of not coming from a wealthy family as Capitalism desired. Ashamed of having had an alcoholic parent as society judged. It took me years to realize that I was perfectly acceptable as I am.
And I’ve told you, if there is a God, this is who he made. I’m not ashamed of it and I resent anyone telling me that i should be. And if there’s a God, I’m pretty certain he would resent it as well, because I am exactly who I am supposed to be.
I’m going to tell you a secret….I had several of those gals growing up and didn’t know it.
And I’ll tell you one. That’s pretty typical. Few men in their twenties are experienced enough to know that. I had boyfriends break up with me, thinking that if they could just find one like me in blonde, or a who had larger breasts (scary), or who had come from money. Some trivial little thing that was inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. Every single one at some point came back, said he couldn’t do better and wanted to get married. But I’d always moved on by then and was with someone else. You’re not the only guy to let women get away and regret it. You can stop beating yourself up over that one.
They were waiting for me to step up and I stood aside…(I did much worse than stand aside btw)
You told me about one of them. When you were 23.
…..to all you young men out there in the peanut gallery, take it from me, don’t wait, you’re not going to get any smarter and the women are not going to get any better. Go with the one that triggers your first instinct and stick with her. Changing horses in the middle of the stream is for losers. Trust me when I tell you life and love isn’t at all like the movies or the romance novels….unless you follow the rules.
Sage advice. And I assure you, they won’t take it. Partly why I figured I’d get married later in life. Men are like wines, and they improve with age (and a reduction in testosterone, I’m sure :)
You too Sugabugga. He is risen!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 16, 2006 @ 6:57 pm
It’s just Sunday to me, but thanks. I won’t even ask what a sugabugga is… :)
April 16th, 2006 at 8:50 pm[...] D. Chuck Hagel – 4/13/06 “I think to further comment on it would be complete speculation, but I would say that a military strike against Iran, a military option, is not a viable, feasible, responsible option,†he added. … [...]
April 17th, 2006 at 1:05 amI think that Senator Hagel is quite right about Iran.
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http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/2006/04/iran-beneath-planet-of-apes.html
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