Hagel: Military Strike on Iran is ‘Not a Viable, Feasible, Responsible Option’
Hagel: Military Strike on Iran is ‘Not a Viable, Feasible, Responsible Option’
Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) has joined the long list of officials and experts who believe that no good military options exist in Iran. (Read the full list HERE.)
“I think to further comment on it would be complete speculation, but I would say that a military strike against Iran, a military option, is not a viable, feasible, responsible option,” he added. …
“I believe a political settlement will be the answer. Not a military settlement. All these issues will require a political settlement,” Hagel said.
Stating that no good military options exist doesn’t mean the U.S. should take the military option off the table. What it means is that the U.S. needs to get off the sidelines and engage Iran directly, as Hagel has urged in the past:
Iran is a regional power; it has major influence in Iraq and throughout the Gulf region. Its support of terrorist organizations and the threat it poses to Israel is all the more reason that the U.S. must engage Iran. Any lasting solution to Iran’s nuclear weapons program will also require the United States’ direct discussions with Iran. The United States is capable of engaging Iran in direct dialogue without sacrificing any of its interests or objectives.
Unfortunately, the latest reports suggest the Bush administration is turning down opportunities to begin direct talks, as it has done consistently for several years.
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Since when does viable and/or feasible impact the Bush Administration?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:07 pmNewt was on the today show this morning beating the war drums for Iran. Basically he said Iraq was bad, but we still need to attack Iran.
Not sure what to make of it.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:09 pmSince when does viable and/or feasible impact the Bush Administration?
Comment by unbelievable — April 13, 2006 @ 12:07 pm
And don’t forget “responsible!”
April 13th, 2006 at 12:11 pmWhat the problem? Just sell them the weapons. It worked for me.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:13 pmUnfortunately, the latest reports suggest the Bush administration is turning down opportunities to begin direct talks, as it has done consistently for several years.
Bush: Give up your nuclear program or we will bomb you into the stone age.
Iran: Fuck you George. We will build a bomb and we will use it against the Jew Pigs.
Bush: Boom!
And that’s how you handle insane Islamothugs before they can get a bomb. Any questions?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:13 pmHagel is the one Republican I’d vote for.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:13 pmThats nice Chuck….but when the vote comes before the Senate
You, Snowe and Chafee will all vote for it…why because you three are all talk and NO ACTION when it comes to confronting the misguided leadership in your party…
Nice try though……
April 13th, 2006 at 12:14 pmfor God’s sake, BuchCo, “show me the Diplomacy!”
April 13th, 2006 at 12:15 pmfor God’s sake, BushCo, “show me the Diplomacy!”
April 13th, 2006 at 12:15 pmSen. Hagel needs to tell that fast to Bush himself, because he wants to attack Iran soon! Hagel is being naive if he thinks Bush would negotiate with Iran!
April 13th, 2006 at 12:16 pmAnd don’t forget “responsible!â€
Comment by bluefish — April 13, 2006 @ 12:11 pm
Of course!
April 13th, 2006 at 12:16 pmAnd when Iraq debacle is repeated in Iran, Newt will be on future talk shows sputtering how military option against Iran was a “mistake”. It would be beneficial for America that Newt and his neocon war-profiteering cronies to just disappear. Better yet, round the whole cabal up for war crime trial at the Hague.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:19 pmThe reason there is no policy alternative between ineffective diplomacy, where one dissenting permanent member can hinder any action, and invasion is a direct outgrowth of corporations hijacking geopolitics after the end of the Cold War.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:22 pmUsed to be, under programs like COCOM, if any Western corporation sold goods on a restricted list to the USSR or nations under its control that corporation would be hit with a meaningful fine and even its officers jailed (i.e. Toshiba Machine).
As the USSR was crumbling, corporations developed nations (OECD) convinced that the whole world was now one big capitalist free for all and if ‘our’ companies didn’t get the ‘big contract’ with country X, the French or the Japanese would. This scared leaders into becoming salesmen for their respective corporate masters.
So now, if China or Russia want to destroy any leverage the West may have over a country like Iran (even as they express ‘concern’), its not like the other countries are going to seriously consider sanctioning China or Russia.
The world desperately needs a sort of COCOM II to give us a diplomatic tool other than war.
Time for a summit with all the ME players at the table. Responsible leadership needs to stop calling countries evil or terrorist nations…. Put all the issues on the table…nuclear weapons…Jerusalem, Palestine etc….enough of this war talk, evil talk, terrorist talk…the mess in Iraq should wake all of the world leaders up…
April 13th, 2006 at 12:28 pmIF WE BOMB … Oil spikes to more than $120 per barrel; Iran throws missiles at our personnel in Iraq and also shoots ‘em at Israel for good measure; suicide attacks increase in Iraq and perhaps Europe and America; Iran could use al Qaeda as a proxy for delivering bio, chem or what-have-you to western targets; tension rises between Russia and China, big consumers of Iranian oil, and the USA; the multibillion pricetag would further strain the budget and deepen the national defict/debt; also expect more military bungling from Rummy and Co.; plus further crackdowns on dissent and immigration, with more wiretapping, more extraordinary rendition and more torture.
And this will all HELP Bush and the GOP in the 2006 elections?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:30 pmGee cause this tactic has worked so well in Iraq.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:30 pmIF WE BOMB … Oil spikes to more than $120 per barrel; Iran throws missiles at our personnel in Iraq and also shoots ‘em at Israel for good measure; suicide attacks increase in Iraq and perhaps Europe and America; Iran could use al Qaeda as a proxy for delivering bio, chem or what-have-you to western targets; tension rises between Russia and China, big consumers of Iranian oil, and the USA; the multibillion pricetag would further strain the budget and deepen the national defict/debt; also expect more military bungling from Rummy and Co.; plus further crackdowns on dissent and immigration, with more wiretapping, more extraordinary rendition and more torture.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:30 pmDirect talks will do what? What we need to do is support anti-mullah Iranians who can peacefully overthrow the backwards regime.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:31 pmAn attack in Iran would not be as easy as an attack into Iraq. Iran is larger, the population is not nearly as divided. We don’t like their current leaders, and they don’t like them much either, but I don’t think we will be greeted as liberators.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:33 pmI think what we are witnessing is far more serious than people know. I think the military is fighting amongst themselves….hawks vs realists. There is a life death struggle going on between various factions in the government and it is about to get worse as more people/Americans realize this president and his cult followers are NUTS. We can no longer debate this as if we were talking to sane, responsible leaders…that is a mistake. We have a rogue president who is low in the polls, backed into a corner and about to attack Iran…no matter what the consequences. If that doesn’t scare you, nothing will
April 13th, 2006 at 12:35 pmBut would Hagel weenie out if it came down to a vote to go into Iran? I think so.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:36 pmIf Jesus came back, I WRONG I would beat and kick him and tell him to ‘get out of America,you long haired hippy!’
April 13th, 2006 at 12:36 pm#20 - It scares me shitless. Anyone else?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:38 pm19,
An attack in Iran would not be as easy as an attack into Iraq.
Didn’t Iraq and Iran fight for like 10 years with no clear winner?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:39 pmOh yeah. Bush is looking to the be the clown who heralds in teh Apocalypse for the Christian righties.
George W. Bush=The Apocalypse President
Start stockpiling tuna and powdered milk and get the duct tape and plastic out.
-GSD
April 13th, 2006 at 12:42 pmYeah. Why are you so stupid?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:43 pmThe reason there is no policy alternative between ineffective diplomacy, where one dissenting permanent member can hinder any action, and invasion is a direct outgrowth of corporations hijacking geopolitics after the end of the Cold War.
Comment by trblmkr
It’s nonsense to place the blame of failed (in your opinion) diplomacy on corporations when it is clear that countries always deal from a position of self interest. There can be no final arbiter of what is good and right for a country other than war. It will always be so. Frankly I wouldn’t want it any other way. Some things must be fought for to be appreciated and cherished.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:44 pmTundra,
they did yes, but Sadaam almost won that war. The only thing that really stopped him form suceeding was Reagan selling arms to the Iranians. The Iran-Contra affair. That was also a much more powerful Iraqi military then what the US militar faced at the start of Gulf War II. I am not saying that the US military would not succeed. I am stating that it would be more difficult. Iran is close to twice the size of Iraq. The population is not as divided, and I think we would find a group of people willing to fight for their country. Iran also has not had the same sanctions in place for the last 10 years that Iraq faced. Their military is most likely better armed then the Iraqi’s.
Just my thoughts. I don’t really have the time to look up actual statistics. Its a busy day at work.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:45 pmBut would Hagel weenie out if it came down to a vote to go into Iran? I think so.
Comment by Zookeeper — April 13, 2006 @ 12:36 pm
You could probably set your watch by it… The ‘public servants’ kowtowing to the Almighty King George.
What does he have on these folks that make them such passive suck-ups?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:45 pmThe Bushistas always consider force first. Their lies about wanting a dilomatic solution are to cover the money they want to chanel into the pockets of Hallibuurton, Boing, aand other firms that prop up their illegal administration.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:49 pmBoeing not boing. Sorry.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:50 pmSome things must be fought for to be appreciated and cherished.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 13, 2006 @ 12:44 pm
Yes, but there are other ways to ‘fight’ than bullets, bombs, and bloodshed. Like using intellect. Think the Prague Spring. The intelligensia of Prague managed to oust the powerful and mighty Soviet Union through words alone. A true ‘cold war’.
Pulling a trigger is easy. Compromise with your enemy is difficult. But if you and I could find middle ground, and even a level of respect, especially considering how we started out, then why not others?
April 13th, 2006 at 12:51 pmPeople power should be the answer. Two nights ago I saw Frontline. The show was about that guy who stood in front of the tanks in front of Tiannemen Square in China back in 1989. The guy had balls because he believed in free society. We should have the balls to stand in front of those tanks called Congress and the White House.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:53 pmWe should tell them to get it together or we’ll make them.
Hey off topic but important. Check out the new movie trailer for An Inconvenient Truth with Al Gore set to be released in late May. Click here: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/18…9257809/ trailer
April 13th, 2006 at 12:54 pmHooray for Hagel, who does occasionally put politics aside for the good of the country.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:54 pmYes. And sense we cannot control Iraq, what makes you think we can contorl Iran. You answered your own question.
April 13th, 2006 at 12:55 pmHey off topic but important. Check out the new movie trailer for An Inconvenient Truth with Al Gore set to be released in late May. Click here: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/18…9257809/trailer
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April 13th, 2006 at 12:55 pmHey off topic but important. Check out the new movie trailer for An Inconvenient Truth with Al Gore set to be released in late May. Click here:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809257809/trailer
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April 13th, 2006 at 12:58 pmrighteyes i always get such a big hearty belly laugh from reading your posts. i do like, however, the logic of simply eliminating dangerous idiots - what was your home address?
April 13th, 2006 at 1:03 pm#29 - What does he have on these folks that make them such passive suck-ups?
Comment by unbelievable
I doubt he has anything on them, unbelievable.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:10 pmMost of our congressmen and women are too in love with their jobs, and associated perks, to take a risk and do what is right for the people.
The Human Costs of Bombing Iran
By Matthew Rothschild
April 11, 2006
George Bush didn’t exactly deny Seymour Hersh’s report in The New Yorker that the Administration is considering using tactical nuclear weapons against Iran.
Neither did Scott McClellan.
Bush called it “wild speculation,†and McClellan said the United States would go ahead with “normal military contingency planning.”
Those are hardly categorical denials.
So let’s look at what the human costs of dropping a tactical nuclear weapon on Iran might entail.
They are astronomical.
“The number of deaths could exceed a million, and the number of people with increased cancer risks could exceed 10 million,†according to a backgrounder by the Union of Concerned Scientists from May 2005.
The National Academy of Sciences studied these earth-penetrating nuclear weapons last year. They could “kill up to a million people or more if used in heavily populated areas,†concluded the report, which was sponsored by the U.S. Department of Defense.
Physicians for Social Responsibility examined the risks of a more advanced buster-bunker weapon, and it eerily tabulated the toll from an attack on the underground nuclear facility in Esfahan, Iran. “Three million people would be killed by radiation within two weeks of the explosion, and 35 million people in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India, would be exposed to increased levels of cancer-causing radiation,†according to a summary of that study in the backgrounder by the Union of Concerned Scientists.
While Congress last year denied funding for a new nuclear bunker-buster weapon, the Pentagon already has a stockpile of one such weapon in the arsenal: the B61-Mod11, according to Stephen Young, a senior analyst at the Federation of the American Scientists.
That the Administration is considering using such a weapon against Iran is “horrifying and ludicrous,†says Young.
But it is now Bush Administration doctrine to be able to use such weapons. The new “National Security Strategy of the United States of America,†which Bush unveiled in March, discusses the use of nuclear weapons in an offensive way. “Our deterrence strategy no longer rests primarily on the grim premise of inflicting devastating consequences on potential foes,†it states. “Both offenses and defenses are necessary. . . . Safe, credible, and reliable nuclear forces continue to play a critical role.â€
Even more explicit is the Pentagon’s draft of a revised doctrine for the use of nuclear weapons, which was revealed by Walter Pincus of The Washington Post last September.
It envisions using nuclear weapons for “attacks on adversary installations including WMD, deep hardened bunkers containing chemical or biological weapons.†It says that the United States should be prepared to use nuclear weapons “if necessary to prevent†another country from using WMDs.
This is a mere amplification of the Nuclear Posture Review of December 31, 2001, which stated: “Nuclear weapons could be employed against targets able to withstand non-nuclear attack (for example, deep underground bunkers or bio-weapon facilities).â€
If the United States used nuclear weapons against Iran, it would be violating the Nuclear NonProliferation Treaty, which prohibits nations that possess nuclear weapons from dropping them on nations that don’t.
But in the Bush Administration, planning to do this is just “normal†behavior.
And a million casualties or more?
http://progressive.org/mag_wx041106
April 13th, 2006 at 1:11 pmJimbo, #33, I saw that special on “The Tank Man”, it gave me chills. Especially when they asked the college-aged Chinese kids if they knew what the picture was about. It makes you wonder if they would have ‘recognized’ the picture had their handlers not been there.
It’s so pathetic that such a hero can be forgotten/erased.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:12 pmMost of our congressmen and women are too in love with their jobs, and associated perks, to take a risk and do what is right for the people.
Comment by Zookeeper — April 13, 2006 @ 1:10 pm
But the People elect them, so that would be like doing the opposite of what your boss tells you to do so that you can appease the V.P. of the company next door who sells you your copier paper… Bush has no authority over them. As far as they are concerned he might as well be a paper sales man. It’s We The People who hold their security in our hands. And yet they abuse that. Doesn’t add up to me.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:15 pm#24 — Yes, they did fight for ten years, with us propping up the Iraqi side with all sorts of weaponry. Iran is a major military force, unlike Iraq.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:15 pmDemocracy Be Damned - Republicans Need Another War
by Thom Hartmann
George W. Bush is at it again. This time, reports Sy Hersh in The New Yorker, it’ll be Iran. (Those of us who guessed it would have been Syria first apparently underestimated his hubris.) And this time he wants to be able to use nukes.
In the novel 1984 by George Orwell, the way a seemingly democratic president kept his nation in a continual state of repression was by keeping the nation in a constant state of war. Cynics suggest the lesson wasn’t lost on Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon, who both, they say, extended the Vietnam war so it coincidentally ran over election cycles, knowing that a wartime President’s party is more likely to be reelected and has more power than a President in peacetime.
This wasn’t a new lesson, however, and Orwell was not the first to note that a democracy at war was weakened and at risk.
Continued at
April 13th, 2006 at 1:16 pmhttp://www.commondreams.org/views06/0411-20.htm
Didn’t Iraq and Iran fight for like 10 years with no clear winner?
Comment by Tundra
They sure did… and Saddam was even using WMDs (gas) with targeting provided by American satellites.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:19 pmAlthough I had to feed the trolls, IRI’s remark “There can be no final arbiter of what is good and right for a country other than war. It will always be so.” struck me as so ridiculous that I had to just say that the final arbiter of what is good and right for a country should be the decision of it’s people. That’s called Democracy. It will always be so. And you are an asshole, iri.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:19 pmPulling a trigger is easy. Compromise with your enemy is difficult. But if you and I could find middle ground, and even a level of respect, especially considering how we started out, then why not others?
Comment by unbelievable
I saw a preacher on TV the other day teaching her sheep that compromise is a bad thing… these people are not even adults.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:20 pmshould have been ‘hate to feed the trolls’…sorry.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:26 pmI saw a preacher on TV the other day teaching her sheep that compromise is a bad thing… these people are not even adults.
Comment by Gerald Gibson — April 13, 2006 @ 1:20 pm
Did she give a reason? Or was it yet another bit of bad information expected to be swallowed in blind faith?
I can’t imagine anyone teaching that compromise is a bad thing to people who live in social settings. She’s setting them up to be angry, disappointed, egocentric and potentially violent. Sad.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:27 pmYes, the sheep of today are tomorrow’s rooftop snipers. Feed the youth enough hate, they will be timebombs. I only hope the timebombs blow up in the bombmaker’s faces.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:28 pmDid she give a reason? Or was it yet another bit of bad information expected to be swallowed in blind faith?
No… it was not one of those things where she said to compromise on sin is to open a doorway to hell ….or anything like that …she said literally …and I watched for a few minutes because I was just waking up in the morning and was too lazy to get up and turn it off…. she was literally saying that compromise is a BAD trait.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:33 pmDear Progs - What “difficult compromise” with Iran is acceptable to you?? How do you propose “making freinds” with the Iranian leadership???
#5 - Not surprising, I think I-R-I has it RIGHT. I hadn’t noticed the frightened clamor of Iran wishing to engage in “diplomatic talks”. Because I distrust the Iranian government almost as much as progs distrust the Bush administration - I would be as direct as possible.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:37 pmMighty Aphrodite’s Diplomatic Approach:
a.) gather historical photos of mushroom clouds, Hiroshima (before & after), and Nagaski (before & after)
b.) explain that compliance with the U.S. and allied positions will prevent “after” pictures of Tehran, suburban labs, bunkers et al.
c.) should Iran choose not to “comply” - I would implement my friend, I-R-I’s suggestion, and “BOOOOOOOOM”
BushCo has no interest in diplomacy. You can’t scare people without something to be scared of. BushCo needs terrorists. Why do you think Bin Laden is still around?
t-mac
April 13th, 2006 at 1:38 pmIf you were pushing RAPTURE…what would you do to the globe? F*K EVERYTHING !!! And if they can’t F*K IT, they DESTROY it. Well that’s what the whole Bushco cabal is doing to civilization. In every direction and for a long time to come.
People who believe we are living in the END TIMES, should not be given the means to bring them about!
April 13th, 2006 at 1:41 pm“c.) should Iran choose not to “comply†- I would implement my friend, I-R-I’s suggestion, and “BOOOOOOOOM†Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
Why I am I not surprised we’d get a Nazi Solution from a Nazi Propagandist? In fact you sound exactly like how the media says Iran is supposed to be sounding to israel. No wonder the world doesn’t trust us with Psychos like you in charge! Your ‘glib’ responses, and inability to ‘emote’ for the feelings of other show up yet again. You’re a walking checklist of a sociopath and serial killer. You both need a padded cell you disturbing freaks!
April 13th, 2006 at 1:47 pmshe was literally saying that compromise is a BAD trait.
Comment by Gerald Gibson — April 13, 2006 @ 1:33 pm
And these are usually the ones who breed ad infinitum. For the prime bad example see post 53 above. No wonder the collective I.Q. of this country is in such steep decline. The fuckwits are breeding like there’s no tomorrrow.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:48 pmDear Progs - What “difficult compromise†with Iran is acceptable to you?? How do you propose “making freinds†with the Iranian leadership???
How did JFK handle the Cuba crisis? He put the facts on the table for the world to decide and the Russians could not refute it… they tried but were then caught in a lie. I guess you got to know something about truth before you can corner a liar. Also I believe JFK compromised with the Russians who did not like having nukes on their border either… a little brains… a little crafty showmanship at the UN .. and a little compromise should solve the issue… but no one will ever know …because Bush is too stupid to do any of that and so is all the people around him.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:50 pmYour ‘glib’ responses, and inability to ‘emote’ for the feelings of other show up yet again.
Comment by Ryan Neat — April 13, 2006 @ 1:47 pm
This from someone claiming to be a nurturing mother of four!
I have little doubt that we’ll see her brood on America’s Most Wanted in a few more years. No one this blood thirsty could produce socially acclimated offspring.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:51 pmComment by mighty aphrodite
So your ingenious plan is to make threats?
That is your BIG idea?
And I suppose you are the type of pussy that would bend over when threatened?
Just like George Washington did… ooops nevermind he didnt bend over…ok well lets try another… just like Jesus…oops again …he didnt bend over either …
I think threats are an idiots way of dealing with people.
You need to read history ALOT more.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:52 pmYeah, Bush is GOOD at scaring people with mushroom clouds. I remember him doing that to me! Do you think that the Iranians believe him any more than we do now?
Bush has turned himself into a paper tiger and the strength of our country into a sad memory. Sure we can nuke our enemies, but then what, babe? That was the same problem he had and has with Iraq. Short sighted solutions. Stupid confrontational rhetoric. Diplomacy? It’s not his strong point. War? With what army? Nukes? Are you really advocating opening that pandora’s box? Isn’t that kind of DUMB?
April 13th, 2006 at 1:52 pmIsn’t that kind of DUMB?
Comment by Solitaire — April 13, 2006 @ 1:52 pm
With God on your side you don’t need stra-tee-gery or mission plans or bullet proof vests for your troops.
I despise the notion that if there is a god, he’s playing favorites. It goes against the basis of all their religions, and yet they shout “God Bless America” in sheer ignorance. As him to bless your neighbors, not yourself. How arrogant and egocentric. And they they have the nerve to call us ‘evil’ because we wield peace, love and understanding. Sheesh.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:58 pmDoes anybody really believe that GWB is a diplomat? The man has no leadership qualities outside of a school yard bully. To be able to use diplomacy requires altruism and the ability to see other peoles points of views and the realities of the environment they live in. Little george has none of the attributes required to engage in any sort of dialogue with even the simplest of minds. He is a failure and we the citizens must now suffer his insolence. Impeachment is up to the citizens to make a reality because the legislative and judicial branch of the government has proven themselves unwilling to uphold their oath’s to the constitution.
April 13th, 2006 at 1:58 pmSo, those of you who are bushie supporters… Why do you wish to bring on WW III so badly?
This isn’t a video game. These are real countries with real people. The consequenses of acting out of ego are staggering. Get over yourselves.
We engage people, people we don’t particulary like, via diplomacy all the time. More so before King dumbya ascended the throne. That is how it works.
Iran isn’t Afganistan. Iran isn’t Iraq. We can only piss them off beyond your tiny minds going the bombing route. Why do you WANT to give them a reason to use their anger against us? Or are you now going to say that Iran was behind 9/11?
I can just see it now at a presidential speech: ” Our intelligence turns out to have been slightly off on 9/11. It turns out the documents we were all looking at had a N in them, not a Q. Iraq….gee, we’re sorry. My bad.”
April 13th, 2006 at 1:59 pmAphrodite,
Don’t be such a tool. Why are you so scared? We have ten years!
http://americablog.blogspot.com/ 2006/ 04/ here-is-democratic-message-on-iran.html
For all the tough talk all these right wing hawks are just tring to cover for the fact that they are scared little children. You are in constant fight or flight mode. All you see is violence and distruction. Why are you so eager to kill millions of people? You are sick, thats why.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:01 pm“Wild Speculation (Fantasy Land)” is now #1 on the Top 10 GOP Sound Bites.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:01 pm#65 - They have to do SOMETHING to stop Pres. Bush’s “approval” rating going down faster than Rush Limbaugh on a pile of pills.
Of course, they all claim “We don’t care about polls!”, but then when you bring up impeachment, the first thing they say is “According to the poll, only 33% support impeachment!”
Double standards are the GOP’s ONLY standards!
April 13th, 2006 at 2:04 pmHas anyone considered the Russian, and Chinese reaction to a US invasion or nuclear bombing of Iran? Doesn’t Iran supply a great deal of Oil to china?
April 13th, 2006 at 2:11 pmWhat “difficult compromise†with Iran is acceptable to you??
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 1:37 pm
How abourt the same one attained with Khadaffi? Or a similar one?
How do you propose “making freinds†with the Iranian leadership???
Huh? Who said “make friends”. It’s about politics. You should know; do you make friends with the people you defend?
Mighty Aphrodite’s Diplomatic Approach:
(Insert babble here)
c.) should Iran choose not to “comply†- I would implement my friend, I-R-I’s suggestion, and “BOOOOOOOOMâ€
Iran is complying with the NPT -I guess you haven’t noticed that the issue is the Bush administration’s claim that Iran will, perhaps, maybe, potentially build a nuclear weapon -when they have no way of knowing the future, or even the Khatami’s current intentions. And that Iran will be able to build such weapon in 16 days -a bold face lie. And that more and more political and military leaders are saying that the military approach is not the best solution.
I guess you missed all that.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:25 pm#42 - It’s We The People who hold their security in our hands. And yet they abuse that. Doesn’t add up to me.
unbelievable, I think they count on the 50% (or less) voter turnout.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:29 pmLoser lefties on compromising with enemies and barbarians:
a.) “Your ‘glib’ responses, and inability to ‘emote’ for the feelings of other show up yet again.” Dear Loser - I don’t have “positive” emotions or concerns for Stalinists, Trotskyites, Leninists, Nazi’s, madrasah mullahs or radical Islamocfascists. You seem to have enough “concern” for all of us….
“In fact you sound exactly like how the media says Iran is supposed to be sounding to israel.” - Leftist Loser LIAR
Should Iran NOT build nuclear bombs - I do NOT advocate blowing them off the face of the earth - just ANOTHER one of your leftists LIES…..
Another baseless comment from a leftist spinster about Aphrodites kids, “I have little doubt that we’ll see her brood on America’s Most Wanted in a few more years. No one this blood thirsty could produce socially acclimated offspring.” How about tackling the thorny issue - which you apparently can’t - and let us know what type of “compromise” you would settle for with Iran???? (Notice how I don’t attack your mom for the way you “turned out” or how she raised you….she sounds like a sweet woman who loves you dearly.)
April 13th, 2006 at 2:35 pmThe fuckwits are breeding like there’s no tomorrrow.
Comment by unbelievable — April 13, 2006 @ 1:48 pm
With f&*kwits like IRI and MA advocating nuclear war, there will be no tomorrow.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:35 pmfor anybody doubting they won’t “go for it”
The Project for the New American Century.
this was written in 2003 - Will Iran Be Next?
and finally
Dick Cheney’s Song of America
The Plan is for the United States to rule the world. The overt theme is unilateralism, but it is ultimately a story of domination. It calls for the United States to maintain its overwhelming military superiority and prevent new rivals from rising up to challenge it on the world stage. It calls for dominion over friends and enemies alike. It says not that the United States must be more powerful, or most powerful, but that it must be absolutely powerful.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:36 pmDidn’t the British try that and fail? Empires never last. eventually they crumble.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:39 pmtrue…
but neither was invading Iraq yet Shrub and the Rovians went ahead and did it…
he’s still president of the united states and he is still - legally - able to do whatever he wants to “protect the country”
the rubber stamp congress already authorized him to use whatever force is necessary to protect the country… with that “magna carta”he’s:
invaded iraq
spied on americans
tortured
kidnapped
etc….
why would invading Iran be a great leap
April 13th, 2006 at 2:41 pmDirect talks will do what? What we need to do is support anti-mullah Iranians who can peacefully overthrow the backwards regime.
Comment by Lyle — April 13, 2006 @ 12:31 pm
that’s it. The people have a hardline leader they do not like just like we do.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:48 pmAn integral component of Diplomacy is COMMUNICATION!!! If BushCo refuses even to speak with Iran, how on earth do they expect a diplomatic solution to their idiotic actions of late? And yet, they get in front of the cameras, saying that they are hoping for a diplomatic resolution. Typical of them, and a carbon copy of what they did before invading Iraq. They are proving to be frighteningly predictable. Not good.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:52 pm“What “difficult compromise†with Iran is acceptable to you?? How do you propose “making freinds†with the Iranian leadership??? - MA
April 13th, 2006 at 2:52 pmGerald brings up the fine leadership of JFK during the Cuban missile crisis. Unfortunately, Gerald, you left out the LARGEST COMPONENT - Islamofascism in Iran is very different from secualr Communism in Russia and Cuba. Nice try - but several imporatant “parallels” do not apply.
“Dear Loser - I don’t have “positive†emotions or concerns for Stalinists, Trotskyites, Leninists, Nazi’s, madrasah mullahs or radical Islamocfascists. You seem to have enough “concern†for all of us…. Mighty Aphrodite”
Sure you do, you’re a NAZI yourself, as is I-RIGHT-I. And you’re welcome for my concern - as Nazis like you seem never to be concerned with anyone but yourselves. You’re a Sick and Perverted IDIOT!
“Should Iran NOT build nuclear bombs - I do NOT advocate blowing them off the face of the earth - just ANOTHER one of your leftists LIES….. Mighty Aphrodite”
Yet that’s not what you said:
“c.) should Iran choose not to “comply†- I would implement my friend, I-R-I’s suggestion, and “BOOOOOOOOM†Mighty Aphrodite”
So far all they’ve done is ENRICHMENT, and this is the COMPLIANCE that’s been asked for. Perhaps we can chalk it up to your HISTORICAL INACCURACIES, and VAGUE RANTS that you’ve become so famous for. Or maybe it’s just because you’re an INEPT FOOL and don’t realize what the current compliance requirements are for Non Proliferation. All in all, there are so many things you don’t seem to know, understand or care about, most likely it’s all of the above.
“How about tackling the thorny issue - which you apparently can’t - and let us know what type of “compromise†you would settle for with Iran???? (Notice how I don’t attack your mom for the way you “turned out†or how she raised you….she sounds like a sweet woman who loves you dearly.) Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
That’s because progressives generally do have sweet moms who are nothing like the hell b!tch you are…
As for the ‘thorny issue’, I’m sure you’d prefer to have progs solve your problems for you as you usually do - but we both know you’d just take the credit or blame everyone that we didn’t let you blow up another country which hasn’t attacked us. That’s the HITLER in your politics talking though. He had a similar view of his neighbors that you have of Iran - and used similar excuses.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the reason we don’t want Iran to have the bomb is that they might use it, and Mighty Nazi here advocates using it on them before they attack anyone else? That’s hypocrisy, and NAZISIM YOU FOUL WITCH!
April 13th, 2006 at 2:57 pmI know its hard, I mean the truth isn’t revealed in a sound bite. That’s the trolls problem - it takes too much to search for the truth so they let bill o’leilly think for them.
April 13th, 2006 at 2:59 pm#72 - “With f&*kwits like IRI and MA advocating nuclear war, there will be no tomorrow.” - Comment by Gregor Samsa
April 13th, 2006 at 3:00 pmDear Gregrrrr - You should have plenty of happy tomorrows to look forward to. Just don’t do anything stupid and become a “Rachel Corey” or Christian Peacemaker Teamate human shield in Iran….
mighty fool - you are one nasty human being.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:01 pm#59- Ms.Unbelievable, you are TOO right! Just look at Barbara Bush for the confirmation! ;)
April 13th, 2006 at 3:04 pmHey Mighty Moron, by your RECIPE we should have bombed North Korea years ago. So why the difference between your policy insights on Iran and those of North Korea? Could it be you don’t care if millions of Japanese die, but Israel is your own personal ’sacred cow’ of sorts? Why are you worried about Iran when our own Pentagon says they’re TEN YEARS from the bomb, when North Korea has one now?
Maybe it’s because your own personal anti-semitism and anti-muslim attitudes blind you with hatred and bigotry? Well that’s such a simple answer, I wonder why you’d never thought of just admitting it before. Oh wait, that’s right, it’s because you’re a compulsive liar who can’t even tell an honest truth about their own ‘fake’ bio.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:04 pm“Dear Gregrrrr - You should have plenty of happy tomorrows to look forward to. Just don’t do anything stupid and become a “Rachel Corey†or Christian Peacemaker Teamate human shield in Iran…. Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
Yeah, who wants to look like Jesus, when instead you can look like Poncius Pilat - like you want to be Mighty Moron. After all, what kind of horrible christian values like pascifism, and martyrdom do we want to teach to our children, when instead we can teach them that Nuclear Bombing an entire region is the preferred method of ‘moral’ poeple like yourself. After all a Bomb of prevention is worth a Ton of morality - right?
April 13th, 2006 at 3:08 pm“Gerald brings up the fine leadership of JFK during the Cuban missile crisis. Unfortunately, Gerald, you left out the LARGEST COMPONENT - Islamofascism in Iran is very different from secualr Communism in Russia and Cuba. Nice try - but several imporatant “parallels†do not apply. Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
That’s true, as long as Christo/Judeo Fundamentalists like yourself refuse to ‘compromise’, there’s no chance that Iran can be bargained with. The Reichwing Retards (MUCH LIKE YOURSELF) said the same thing about the GODLESS UNTRUSTWORTHY SOVIETS (I believe a quote from you?) - and yet a leadership with vision did just that. Whereas Dipwads like you without brain or vision never see opportunities. You only see the PESSIMISM of not being able to bargain. It’s why Israel is still a mess, yet why you continue to only blame the palestinians for the problem. You’re NEVER part of the problem in your own ridiculously childish eyes. And any attempt to present this is called ‘blame america first’ or ‘blame israel first’, as opposed to ‘blame america too’. That’s what a COMPROMISE is about. And you CLAIM to be married for 15 years - bahahahaha. What a JOKE you are. You’re clearly a stupid single straight man cluelessly fantasizing about the world through inept and ignorant eyes! You’re a FOOL!
April 13th, 2006 at 3:13 pmOh wait, that’s right, it’s because you’re a compulsive liar who can’t even tell an honest truth about their own ‘fake’ bio.
Comment by Ryan Neat — April 13, 2006 @ 3:04 pm
I forgot to tell you. It took her a month, but she finally came up with a defense. Said that she was spoofing when she told me that I didn’t look ‘a day over 17′ and that she is really a ‘bit older than 34′. What? 38? 42? Saying I don’t look a day over 19 or 21 would have been just as effective of a pun as the “arbitrary” 17, so I’m not buying. But thought you’d get a kick out of that. Considering she’s supposed to be an attorney and all who excells in extemporaneous speaking conditions.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:17 pmand let us know what type of “compromise†you would settle for with Iran????
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
You keep asking the same question, even though it has been answered.
Here it is again:
How about the same compromise as the one reached with Khadaffi? Or similar one? After all, Libya did have an active WMD program -unlike Iran. And also unlike Iran, Libya was most definitely linked to egregious acts of international terrorism.
Pres Bush took credit for the succes story with Libya (whether or not it’s factual is a whole other subject). Why not reach a compromise with Khatami as well?
April 13th, 2006 at 3:18 pmJust look at Barbara Bush for the confirmation! ;)
Comment by Cyra Brown — April 13, 2006 @ 3:04 pm
Do I really have to? : )
April 13th, 2006 at 3:19 pm#89- It was not meant to be taken literally. “You’ll put your eye out!” ;)
April 13th, 2006 at 3:28 pmUnfortunately, Gerald (…) but several imporatant “parallels†do not apply.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 2:52 pm
That’s rich coming from you -given that you tried to establish a parallel between the ongoing war in Iraq aka “war on terror” aka “long war” and the American civil war in the thread on Rep. Bradley’s visit to Iraq. As you say “several important parallels do not apply”.
That was as non sequitur as your thoughts can possibly get.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:28 pmgive righteyes a minute - he’s listening to Hannity right now to find out what to say
April 13th, 2006 at 3:29 pmUnbelievable,
Thanks for the followup of the many lies of Mighty Moron. I seem to remember that it wasn’t the first time she claimed to be 34, and in fact she said once that the Clinton election was the first presidential election she could vote on - so that confirms her age. That was 12 years ago, which would put here at 21/22, and she was probably 17, not quite 18 in the previous election based on her own admissions.
She lies so often though, she’s probably 17 now. Her level of mental sophistication certainly doesn’t appear to be any older than 17…
April 13th, 2006 at 3:33 pmIt is insanely outrageous and immoral for the BushCo and his morons to even consider an attack on Iran…what the hell, they are at least 10 years away from developing a bomb…In that time, surely some sane administration will negotiate with the Iranians…This fiasco is MORE about the November elections than Iran…Bush and Cheney’s approval ratings are in the basement and they believe that a war will divert attention from all the impeachable offenses committed by them both…I have news for them: Attack Iran and you will your LOWEST ratings ever…I pray that this insane administration comes to its senses? and avoids that so-called military option…what a disgrace!!!
April 13th, 2006 at 3:44 pm“Pres Bush took credit for the succes story with Libya (whether or not it’s factual is a whole other subject). Why not reach a compromise with Khatami as well?
Comment by Gregor Samsa ”
That’s BRILLIANT analysis - unfortunately it will fall on DEAF and DUMB ears. Mighty moron doesn’t have the brains ‘god gave’ a sack of hammers.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:48 pmI hope our Congress remembers how much Bush lies when they get asked to vote to authorize him to resort to military force if diplomacy doesn’t work. I seem to remember the same road to Iraq.
Our President is the boy who cried wolf once too often for this citizen.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:50 pmRyan - I take slight offense of her having 17 year old mentality - I happen to have two girls - one 16, the other just turned 20 - and they are in no way ignorant of their world.
April 13th, 2006 at 3:50 pmUnbelievable, instead of trying to jokingly projecting (lefties favourite supposition!!) to “be in bed with I-R-I” why don’t you play “hump the bump”" with your true “soul mate” Ryann??? With that suave, independently wealthy intellectual you could give up your under-appreciated teaching and “do-gooder isms…and bore each other to tears….in your burkas….
April 13th, 2006 at 3:54 pmI’m not really worried about Iran, Iraq, or terrorists. The asshats in Bush’s administration are more of a threart to our safety and security that tne Islam nation ever was. Its time for someone with some balls to stand up to this sandlot bully and tell him there will be no more war, no more wasted lives for some wet dream of somone else’s democracy while we slip into some megacorporate/nazi life style. It may be time to have bands of organized freedom fighters fight for democracy, liberty, and to take back our country.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:03 pmIt was not meant to be taken literally. “You’ll put your eye out!†;)
Comment by Cyra Brown — April 13, 2006 @ 3:28 pm
Whew! Good thing :)
April 13th, 2006 at 4:04 pmyou haven’t added a single thing to this site for months ma. You are just one jaded and faded ugly right wing fool. I feel for your husband. He must be one heck of a guy to stay with the likes of you.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:05 pmRyan,
Isn’t it nice to have a photographic memory? :)
She’s definitely 55 physically going on 17 mentally - at best. Lets’ see what new tall tale we get from her after this discussion. Should be amusing… as usual.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:08 pmWhile it may placate some, the fact that people like Sen Hagel are coming out publically against the military option in Iran, doesn’t really mean anything! The real question the media ought to be asking these guys is: Would they support Bush if he chose to use go ahead with it?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:10 pmI don’t know why anyone listens to what Chuck Hagel has to say. He always has these very reasonable remarks that he makes which make him appear to be such a credible person. But then when the matter comes up for a vote, he is always there supporting the Republican position time and time again. Frankly, I have tuned him out I think everyone else should do the same. I would sooner listen to Bill Frist who sounds like a right wing radical and votes the same way. Hagel talks like a responsible moderate and then votes with Frist.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:12 pmThat’s BRILLIANT analysis -
Comment by Ryan Neat — April 13, 2006 @ 3:48 pm
Thanks for the compliment but I think it is born out of “jadedness” more than anything else.
The contrast in the diplomatic approach towards Libya, on the one hand, and Iran on the other confirms to me this is not about terrorism, or WMDs -but about access to natural resources.
In spite of the rhetoric on both sides, fact is Libya always allowed Western companies to explore for, and extract, oil. Unlike Libya, Iran’s oil industry is nationalised and are signing agreements with India and China (the horror!). Also, Iran has the second largest proven reserve of crude oil in the world, after Saudi Arabia. Not to mention that Iran is strategically located overlooking the straight of Ormuz, and next (or very close) to Kuwait, Iraq, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia -the US would be swimming in a sea of oil if the military controlled that region via “enduring” military bases.
Contrast also Bush’s approach to another country that most definitely has WMDs: North Korea. No oil, no threats of invasion. Who would have guessed?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:15 pm#98 You are acting like a pig. Please try some decorum. What kind of people raised you anyway? Aren’t you ashamed of your trashy behavior? I don’t understand why some people don’t have any self pride.
What’s with favourite?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:15 pmUnbelievable, instead of trying to jokingly projecting (lefties favourite supposition!!) to “be in bed with I-R-I†why don’t you play “hump the bump— with your true “soul mate†Ryann??? With that suave, independently wealthy intellectual you could give up your under-appreciated teaching and “do-gooder isms…and bore each other to tears….in your burkas….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 3:54 pm
Drives you insanely jealous that I get along with both of them doesn’t it? Makes it even worse that neither one calls me stupid, I bet.
For your information, I have a degree in Architecture. I have my own money. Enough to live a comfortable life. I am not driven by money. I don’t rest my self-esteem on materialistic ideologies. I happen to love my job. Sure there are issues. But in the grand scheme of things, I sleep really well at night knowing I’m doing something I believe in.
And, also unlike you, I don’t value myself in terms of a man. If I did, I’d have accepted one of the first dozen proposals in my early twenties and been done with it. I just wasn’t ready then. Always figured I’d marry later in life. It was my choice. And that’s fine with me. So you’re wasting your breath on intended insults in that range. Why don’t you try something far less tired and redundant? I have my Achilles Heel. You’re just no where close. And I’m betting that you never will be.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:18 pmDrives you insanely jealous that I get along with both of them doesn’t it? Makes it even worse that neither one calls me stupid, I bet.
Comment by unbelievable — April 13, 2006 @ 4:18 pm
Makes it even “worser” for MA’s case that you look like Salma Hayek…
Salma…. hhhmmmm…..
;-)
April 13th, 2006 at 4:22 pmGood for you unbelievable - people never understand why I love teaching. It has nothing to do with money - it has to do with contributing to the world. That is something MA and IRI could never understand. Repubs are only after the almighty dollar.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:23 pm#102 I agree, Ryan is the BEST at catching their slip ups and so are you. That creature of the night is no lawyer.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:25 pmAnd republicans are always ugly. Or is it just that they are so evil it makes them appear ugly?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:26 pmMakes it even “worser†for MA’s case that you look like Salma Hayek…
Salma…. hhhmmmm…..
;-)
Comment by Gregor Samsa
You little tramp! How could you possibly send your pic to the resident wetback?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:29 pmThis ain’t about the “nukes” which is another diversion from the real agenda. Google Oriental Oil Kish. Check out Halliburtons ties to Iranian oil and how the new Iranian govt. busted their balls and still has Halliburtons money and their inside guy.
F**kin nukes???!! What a load of bullshit!!
April 13th, 2006 at 4:30 pmHow could you possibly send your pic to the resident wetback?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 13, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
Aahhh… more racist rants from our resident KKKer…
April 13th, 2006 at 4:31 pmPP, You might earn SOME (not alot, bit some) credibility when you criticize personal attacks and vulgarities by progs…I’ll wash my mouth out when RyAnne, Fat Daddy, unbelievable chomp on that bar of Palmolive…..
April 13th, 2006 at 4:32 pmYou little tramp! How could you possibly send your pic to the resident wetback?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 13, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
I love it when you get jealous :). But, you know better. I’m utterly loyal. You’re the only one who knows what I really look like (he was playing off the conversation I had with krazny yesterday in the War on Easter forum).
But really, dear, you should stop insulting my friend. And, fyi, he’s married.
You need a night out with the boys. Go…
April 13th, 2006 at 4:35 pmAnd for good measure…the cheesebrains in the oval are basing all the intelligence they have on info from the the guy that Halliburton bribed to get the oil contracts and this new “curveball” gave them the ‘reliable intelligence source’ that they are using to justify all the “tough talk”, bust your ass tactics. Iran is a long f***in’ way from putting together enough enriched uranium to make (1) nuke, let alone pose a threat to the continental US or the middle east.
Like their gonna drop on of those bitches in Baghdad…
April 13th, 2006 at 4:37 pmMakes it even “worser†for MA’s case that you look like Salma Hayek…
Comment by Gregor Samsa — April 13, 2006 @ 4:22 pm
You are so funny Gregor.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:37 pm#88 - Gregggrrrrr - Thank you for answering for the progressive “intellectual, unbelievable - she doesn’t need you to “rescue” her - remember????She brought up the generalization of “compromise” and I would like for her to expand her answer. Thank you Grgggrrr for your thoughtfulness….
April 13th, 2006 at 4:37 pmHow come i-right-i gets off all these racist statements & doesn’t get booted?
I don’t understand. Judd, you should modify their behaviour or get ‘em off your blog. Otherwise that’s gonna be considered acceptable behaviour.
ma - grow up. get a life. somewhere else preferrably.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:38 pmshe doesn’t need you to “rescue†her - remember????She brought up the generalization of “compromise†and I would like for her to expand her answer. Thank you Grgggrrr for your thoughtfulness….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 4:37 pm
I have no clue what you are talking about -I can barely make head or tail out of your rants as it is…
Your post was above mine. I could discern you were again asking the same question. I answered it again.
So, isn’t that the approach Pres Bush claimed to have used? Why not use it again?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:42 pmpeople never understand why I love teaching. It has nothing to do with money - it has to do with contributing to the world.
Comment by Jules — April 13, 2006 @ 4:23 pm
Couldn’t agree more Jules. I HATED Corporate America. And after 14 years of dedication to a career that constantly took without giving, I happily left for greener pastures. You know what I mean, and I appreciate that. That sense of knowing that given anything to do with your life (because really, I could never sit at home and eat bon-bons all day like Madga fantasizes of doing), what better job than teaching a child? If more people were interested in spreading knowledge, I think the world would be a lot less hateful. But, no instead people say “Those who can do - those who can’t teach.” What a sad measure of our culture. It’s why i makes sure the kids know what I gave up to be there with them. So they know that teaching is a noble and valid career choice.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:44 pmYou little tramp!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — April 13, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
Wait a minute… Excuse me, Romeo. But, he didn’t serve me cold pizza for breakfast. You have no room to talk if I did send him anything. Not one square inch.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:46 pm#115 Ryanne? That is juvenile. He consistently sounds loads more intelligent and only addresses your first given hateful comments. You do know that real men don’t find that childish crap offensive. Don’t you?
Remember, you come to us, deary; we don’t come to you. Who has the problem? Why would I say anything to Ryan? I agree with him and so do alot more folks than you know.
Why do you use the old English grammer? Favourite, colour…
April 13th, 2006 at 4:47 pmI agree, Ryan is the BEST at catching their slip ups and so are you. That creature of the night is no lawyer.
Comment by progressive and proud — April 13, 2006 @ 4:25 pm
Thanks. Though, really, she makes it soooo easy :)
April 13th, 2006 at 4:48 pmIt’s why i makes sure the kids know what I gave up to be there with them. So they know that teaching is a noble and valid career choice.
Comment by unbelievable — April 13, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
I always kept my law degree in my classroom. Yes Mighty Moron - I am a lawyer. I always told my kids that an education opens doors to allow the frredom to go anywhere and do anything their heart desires. I miss them so much and cannot wait to get back.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:49 pmHow come i-right-i gets off all these racist statements & doesn’t get booted?
I don’t understand. Judd, you should modify their behaviour or get ‘em off your blog. Otherwise that’s gonna be considered acceptable behaviour.
ma - grow up. get a life. somewhere else preferrably.
Comment by kindness
It’s expected and Judd knows that deep in my heart I love all humanity, just like Jesus. Oh, and my sister told him if he booted me one more time that he’ll regret it.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:51 pmWhy don’t you mind your own business anyway?
Gregggrrrrr - Thank you for answering for the progressive “intellectual, unbelievable - she doesn’t need you to “rescue†her - remember????She brought up the generalization of “compromise†and I would like for her to expand her answer. Thank you Grgggrrr for your thoughtfulness….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 4:37 pm
I realize you aren’t used to chivalry, loyalty or aiding one’s compatriots, but it is how civilized people are raised. Besides, I appreciate his and all other’s input. Not only not offended, but flattered. And since it’s my call - you can stop speaking for me.
Secondly, I gave you enough information. Try turning on your brain now. I’ve had enough of you for one day anway. IRI is going out with the boys - you should join them, boy that you are.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:54 pmAahhh… more racist rants from our resident KKKer…
Comment by Gregor Samsa
I wouldn’t be near as hard on you illegal taco vendors if you’d been smart enough to march with the American flag without being told to by the Communist organizers. You’ve got to admit that marching down American streets waving the Mexican flag was muy stupido.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:56 pmI miss them so much and cannot wait to get back.
Comment by Jules — April 13, 2006 @ 4:49 pm
Jules, I could tell you were brilliant :).
Question… how do you deal with them graduating? I’m new at this. I adore some of them and they are weeks away from moving on. And it’s starting to hit home. How do you deal? ‘Cause I’m not about to stop being involved and getting attached. Or do you just wind up with a heartache every May?
April 13th, 2006 at 4:58 pmPeople who believe we are living in the END TIMES, should not be given the means to bring them about!
Comment by Dr. Strangelove
People who believe that know that there is nothing anyone can do to bring it about or to stop it. But we do get a kick out of watching losers like you sweat.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:03 pmDidn`t Newt just say bring ours boys and grils now saying get Iran Haven`t they caused enought deaths already? They wont be foghtiong aother iqura this time Shame just to get votes.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:05 pmhow do you deal with them graduating?
It’s tough because you really become close to alot of them. Some students come back to visit - especially on homecoming weekend. I see some at malls or movie theatres around town. The best part is when they tell me how much they miss my class. Right now I am worried about a couple that went into the army. One was going over to Iraq and he was scared. I have lost touch with him and pray every day that he is OK.
For the most part though, I always think of every one of them living a great life. They go to college or a trade school - graduate and live happily ever after in a job they love. Hey - I love my fantasy land.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:07 pm#126 - Yes Mighty Moron - I am a lawyer.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:07 pmNot that there’s anything wrong with that.
I wrangle four of ‘em, that’s why I’m the Zookeeper.
Zookeeper - don’t they say the first step toward recovery is admitting you have a problem!
My name is Jules and I am a lawyer.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:09 pm#107 - “Drives you insanely jealous that I get along with both of them doesn’t it? Makes it even worse that neither one calls me stupid, I bet.” - umbelievable
*****I’m not surprised that a REAL man like I-R-I would appeal to you - I’ve seen the motley speciMENS (ha!) in the progressive, straight, single pool and those are pretty slim pickings. As far as “that other one” (the occasionally banned AND always whiney POS) - IF Mr. Aphrodite was such a vulgar, insipid little autocrat, I would be a self-made widow.
“For your information, I have a degree in Architecture. I have my own money. Enough to live a comfortable life. I am not driven by money. I don’t rest my self-esteem on materialistic ideologies.” - unbelievable
*****THAT horse isn’t dead yet?? Could you whistle the lyrics to a new tune?
“And, also unlike you, I don’t value myself in terms of a man.” - unbelievable
*****Your opinion of me is none of my business…. You don’t have a clue what I value - but you ARE very GOOD at slinging reallllly old feminist cliches….Mini-Aphrodite said “you need a new play book”. Such a darling child….
“If I did, I’d have accepted one of the first dozen proposals in my early twenties and been done with it. I just wasn’t ready then. Always figured I’d marry later in life. It was my choice. And that’s fine with me.” - unbelievable
***You’re not very good at long term relationships, are you?? Too much “give and take” for your liberated sensibilities?? Or else you want to be a really responsible “Global Citizen” and wait until after menopause to marry - wouldn’t want to reproduce a “limited resource user”. But if you do want to get married - you might not want to put it off too long - you know how poor the odds are after a certain age.
As for your Achilles Heel - You are entitled to your own insecurities…
April 13th, 2006 at 5:12 pmIt’s tough because you really become close to alot of them. Some students come back to visit - especially on homecoming weekend. I see some at malls or movie theatres around town.
That’s cool.
The best part is when they tell me how much they miss my class.
Wow - you are good. Math isn’t usually the favorite subject in high school! ;)
Right now I am worried about a couple that went into the army. One was going over to Iraq and he was scared. I have lost touch with him and pray every day that he is OK.
I hate this damn war. I don’t pray, but keep these kids in my thoughts. I have a few that are on the verge of goingand it makes me angry that someone would risk the life of this kid for oil and ego.
For the most part though, I always think of every one of them living a great life. They go to college or a trade school - graduate and live happily ever after in a job they love. Hey - I love my fantasy land.
Comment by Jules — April 13, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
Sounds good to me!
Thanks for your thoughts. Much appreciated.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:15 pmAs for your Achilles Heel - You are entitled to your own insecurities…
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 13, 2006 @ 5:12 pm
I was right. You’re not even remotely luke warm. Cold as ice is more like it. You can keep trying, but I doubt you’ll get there.
Go away now, the grown ups are trying to have an adult conversation.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:18 pm“*****Your opinion of me is none of my business…. You don’t have a clue what I value - but you ARE very GOOD at slinging reallllly old feminist cliches….Mini-Aphrodite said “you need a new play bookâ€. Such a darling child…. Mighty Moron”
Are you kidding? Daily you make OUR OPINIONS your business just by being here you filthy douche.
“***You’re not very good at long term relationships, are you?? Too much “give and take†for your liberated sensibilities?? Or else you want to be a really responsible “Global Citizen†and wait until after menopause to marry - wouldn’t want to reproduce a “limited resource userâ€. But if you do want to get married - you might not want to put it off too long - you know how poor the odds are after a certain age. Mighty Hypocrite”
Give and Take? You haven’t shown that capacity once since you’ve been on this blog. You have however been caught in MULTIPLE LIES which prove it’s not possible for you to have Mr Aphrodite and your Life as you claim. You’re a fraud, and you were unmasked AGES AGO.
Only your STUPIDITY keeps you posting in light of your constant failures at all topics brought up. As for the POS, you would know if you own a mirror. That’s the real POS in your life.
“PP, You might earn SOME (not alot, bit some) credibility when you criticize personal attacks and vulgarities by progs… Mighty Aphrodite”
You mean like calling someone Ryanne or POS?
Sorry Mighty Hypocrite, but no one buys the trash you sell. You’re a FOOL AN IDIOT and you ALWAYS LOSE YOUR ARGUMENTS. But like most RETARDS (is that word politically incorrect enough for a NAZI like you to understand), you’re just to STUPID to know it….
April 13th, 2006 at 5:48 pm“It’s why i makes sure the kids know what I gave up to be there with them.”
unbelievable, feninst martyr.
****Please DON’T reproduce - I can just imagine you telling your darling mini-unbelievables all about your stretch marks - all for them…. Why are progs always trying to convince others how “noble” they are?
Jules - do I get a “yenta’ fee if I make a match for you and the Selma Hayak (not Freidrich) look alike???? I think you two would be great for each other. Both of you could try to outdo the others’ sincerity AND noble intentions!!!
April 13th, 2006 at 5:55 pm