Breaking: Another General Calls For Rumsfeld’s Resignation
Breaking: Another General Calls For Rumsfeld’s Resignation
CNN is reporting that a fifth retired general is calling for Rumsfeld’s resignation.
“I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him. … Specifically, I feel he has micromanaged the generals who are leading our forces there,” said retired Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack, former commander of the 82nd Airborne Division.
Actually, this may be the sixth general. Generals Newbold, Eaton, Zinni, and Batiste have gained prominent attention in calling for Rumsfeld’s resignation. But another less-noticed general, Ret. Army Gen. John Riggs, told the Washington Post recently:
[Riggs] believes that his peer group is “a pretty closemouthed bunch” but that, even so, his sense is “everyone pretty much thinks Rumsfeld and the bunch around him should be cleared out.”
Given the inability of Bush to do what needs to be done, it’s time to revisit one of “Rumsfeld’s Rules” pertaining to presidential staff:
Be able to resign. It will improve your value to the President and do wonders for your performance.
UPDATE: Reuters has another quote from Gen. Riggs:
Retired Major Gen. John Riggs told National Public Radio that Rumsfeld had helped create an atmosphere of “arrogance” among the Pentagon’s top civilian leadership. “They only need the military advice when it satisfies their agenda. I think that’s a mistake, and that’s why I think he should resign,” Riggs said.
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Rumsfeld isn’t going to resign because he IS this administration, just as much as Cheney is and considerably more than Bush is.
The Project For a New American Century has infiltrated this government and they aren’t just going to lay down when they are asked to.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:38 pmpsst.. it’s F-E-A-L-T-Y.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:40 pmthanks
Yeh, in case you missed it, he got the full support of the prez today. The worse the news gets, the more the denial ratchets up. Nothing will change folks…you could lead these people to the stockade and they still wouldnt beleive it was even happening.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:41 pmDidn’t Rumsfeld say that he tried to resign and Bush said no? Maybe someone should ask Bush why he won’t let Rumsfeld resign.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:42 pmRummy gave the answer, and the homework assignement, to the press: he asked how many generals had served before, and how many are against him?
The press should survey all living generals and present us and Uncle Donny with the results.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:45 pmHow is a person not allowed to quit? You say “I am quitting”, and then you walk out, and don’t come back.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:46 pmPurportedly, he offered twice to resign, and while Im not sure I believe that, if it is true, it’s again Bush’s fault for being such an inept manager. But more likely, Rummy told Bush to tell the world he offered something that in reality he would never even contemplate. You’ll have to drag Rummy’s dead body from that position.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:46 pmI seem to recall someone in the administration blowing off grim Iraq war assessments by former generals snottily blowing off their opinions and saying words to the effect of, “We don’t entertain the thoughts of former generals.”
On the lighter side: The WaPo’s Chris Cillizzi has got to be the stupidest carbon-based lifeform in the entire solar system.
Go read this blog posting and please tell me how Rep. Alan Mollohan (WV), even if he’s guilty, provides a full counterweight to the GOP’s “culture of corruption”?
What about the entire Ohio GOP, Hastert, DeLay, Cunningham, Frist, Ney, Noe, Bob Taft, not to mention Abramoff, who himself helped corrupt about two thirds of the GOP?
This guy’s pathetic.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:46 pmIt’s always best to follow one’s own advice, Rummy.
Georgie won’t let him resign because finding a new secretary of defense will be a shitstorm he doesn’t want to deal with so close to the 2006 elections. It makes his brain hurt.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:46 pm#4
Yep…twice, as I recall. It was all B.S. IMO. Rummy basically walked up to Bush and asked for permission to resign. Bush refused, so Rummy went back to his seat. Brilliant, really. Rummy solidifies his standing with his supporters in the military and with Bush (and with the Bush supporters) by doing it the way he did. Otherwise, if he truly felt that he no longer was up to the job to the point of considering resigning, he would have stepped down no matter what Bush’s opinion was.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:53 pmquestion:
the last public statement i can find is his criticism of the war way back in december of 2004.
if ANYONE knows anything more recent, please post it here, okay?
peace,
fuck bush
April 13th, 2006 at 4:54 pmTalk About Drumbeats…
From Think Progress:
April 13th, 2006 at 4:57 pm“I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him. … Specifically, I feel he has micromanaged the generals who are leading our forces there,†said retir…
Make that 7 Generals.
General Wesley Clarke told an audience in New Hampshire that he would fire Rumsfled on September 26, 2003.
April 13th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
we have found a new head of FEMA,and Drownie can advise him. Laura bush can take rummys place. (keep it in the family)
April 13th, 2006 at 5:00 pmAnd, of course, I don’t think we’ve heard from Ret. Gen. Shinseki, though I think it’s pretty obvious what his view on the matter would be.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:06 pmWhenever I hear someone say McCain for President, I always chime in to support Rumsfeld for President 2008 instead. Support Rumsfeld, 2008 Republican Presidential Nominee.
Make them choke or Rumsfeld.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:08 pmIt’s pretty obvious that all these guys are just anachronistic, old-school pre-9/11 types who don’t understand modern warfare — much like those old Prussian field marshalls who told Hitler it was folly to invade Russia in winter.
Oh…wait. Never mind.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:08 pmJust 3 more and he’ll get a free toaster…
April 13th, 2006 at 5:09 pmWhy the heck aren’t the Dems beating on Rumsfeld daily.
Q. What should we do about Iraq?
A. Step 1 – fire rusmsfeld.
Simple effective, and something all democrats could agree on.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:10 pm13 – Good point. No one thinks Rumsfeld’s doing a good job, but canning him would mean admitting to a mistake – something the administration isn’t inclined to do even in the best circumstances. With the polls the way they are, Bushco would be less likely to lose Rummie, since it would be seen as just more bad news for the administration.
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April 13th, 2006 at 5:10 pmhttp://griperblade.blogspot.com – grumblings from the heartland
Rumsfeld – 5 out of 6 Generals DON’T recommend him.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:15 pmWhen a General who commanded the 82nd, considered the PRIME division command talks about Rummy resigning, it is the 7th sign. MG Swannack is no slacker either. This is much more serious than most people realize.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:16 pmRummy won’t resign. He’s back-up puppetmaster in case Cheney’s evil heart finally tires of its vile duties and closes up shop for eternity,,,
April 13th, 2006 at 5:18 pmsomebody upthread said the PNAC, having worked so long and hard for its position, ain’t just gonna walk away from it…and this, to paraphrase a cliche, i believe…
rummy…
this pile-on rumsfeld by retired generals is really interesting……
April 13th, 2006 at 5:19 pm“There are known knowns … ”
( Yes, that Donald H. Rumsfeld is the most incompentent Secretary of Defense ever )
“These are things we know that we know …”
….
“There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things we know we don’t know…
( In the case of Donald H. Rumsfeld – he should’ve known that he doesn’t understand the realities of ground warfare. By listening to the generals, he could’ve “learned what he didn’t know.”)
….
“But, there are also unknown unknowns. These are things we don’t know we don’t know …
( Many of these so-called “unknown unknowns” were only so in the mind of Rumsfeld. Good advice regarding both the wisdom and the execution of this war was quite abundant. )
April 13th, 2006 at 5:20 pmBush 41,stopped Swartzcoff from grabbing sadam in the first war,so I think we can safely add ‘Storm’in Norman’ to the list.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:22 pmthis was the list i had…
Please add to the list so that we can have a definitive one…
April 13th, 2006 at 5:25 pmArmy Times
March 6
Grading the Pentagon: What the troops think
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld seems to be at odds with a great number of those in uniform on several issues, including the effect of the Iraq war on the readiness of the force. See the responses to each question in our Command Climate Survey on the Department of Defense.
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-fromnewspaper.php
Command Climate Survey
Department of Defense
Military Times newspapers asked people who had access to a computer within the .mil domain to take a brief survey asking them to tell us what they thought of the command climate within the Defense Department. Here are the questions they were asked…
9. You are at a relative’s house for Sunday dinner. Your brother-in-law is talking to you about work. He says to you, Boy, that Rumsfeld guy is something else. I’ve never seen such an arrogant person. Your response would be:
…
b. He would be be a tough guy to work for, but in all honesty, he gets the job done. I respect him.
2.1%
d. I work fairly often with him/I’ve seen him in action. He’s pretty much as you see; no worse, no better.
30.1%
e. You’re right. Pass the potatoes.
43.7%
April 13th, 2006 at 5:26 pmhttp://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/pdf/022406_commandclimate_survey.pdf
#26
You are right.
Schwarzkopf wanted Rumsfeld gone even before the Iraq invasion.
Google “Desert Caution” “Thomas E. Ricks”
My apologies to the regular posters – I know I’ve hawked this article more than a few times. But there is always a newbie who might be interested.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:30 pmYou’ll have to drag Rummy’s dead body from that position.
Comment by Geoff
oooohhhhh. I just got a warm fuzzy from that visual.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:41 pmThanks!
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April 13th, 2006 at 5:43 pm#27
Add General Tony McPeak – Air Force Chief of Staff. Led the Air Force during Gulf War 1
Add former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General John M. Shalikashvili – who took over as Joint Chiefs Chairman after Colin Powell.
Scratch – #2, #4 and #6. With all due respect to the senior Democratic leadership – they are not senior military personnel.
The point here is that this is beyond politics. Schwarzkopf is (was?) a Republican. McPeak was a Republican prior to the Iraq war. The same with Shalikashvili. McPeak and Shalikashvili switched parties because they were so disgusted with Rumsfeld ( and Bush/Cheney).
April 13th, 2006 at 5:43 pm#25 Killer Whale:
Rummy left out the fila category. “Unknown knowns” — things that we actually know, but don’t know that we know.
..or deny. Or pretend not to know. Those are the ones that are really biting him in the ass.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:47 pmI can understand not accepting someone’s resignation the first time, unless the offense was so awful that continued service was unthinkable. But when a guy offers to resign a second time, you have to strongly consider accepting it absent some compelling reason why you shouldn’t. An offer of resignation shouldn’t be treated the same as “How ya doin’?” in the hallway. It’s serious! And this guy’s job performance was seriously bad enough to warrant outright firing.
Both Secretary Rumsfeld and President bush have failed this country miserably, and if either one of them cared one bit about their country, they would resign and let more competent people take over. (But not Vice President Cheney, who once shot a 78-year-old man in the face. He’s too scary.)
April 13th, 2006 at 5:48 pmThe most competent person to replace Rumy in Bu$h’s area is Jose the Gardner…and, Bu$h didn’t wanna promote him for Rumy—Hell, he’d lose a damned good gardner!
April 13th, 2006 at 5:50 pmTake what #22 said – and roll it back a few years.
The McPeak and Shalikashvili defections were “more serious than most people realized” 3 years ago.
Hopefully Mr. Tim Russert will find the time to discuss the schism between the Senior Military and the Executive Office.
That could help a lot of people realize what is going on.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:51 pmAtlantic Monthly polled members of Congress as to who had Bush’s ear:
Democrats (44)
Cheney – 15 first place votes
Rove – 13 first place votes
Rice – 16 first place votes
Rumsfeld – 0 first place votes
Republicans (41)
Rice – 26 first place votes
April 13th, 2006 at 5:51 pmCheney – 10 first place votes
Rumsfeld – 2 first place votes
Rove – 1 first place vote
Don’t know – 2 votes
He’s Robert McNamara without the brains.
April 13th, 2006 at 5:52 pmThis administration cannot afford to have someone else get a look at what is going on…this isn’t about competence but covering their asses
April 13th, 2006 at 6:01 pmThis administration cannot afford to have someone else get a look at what is going on…this isn’t about competence but covering their asses
April 13th, 2006 at 6:01 pmHey Sponge-boy, Wesley Clarke(sic) sucked hard on Slicky Blue-Dress’ tool to get his fourth star.
Also, Sponge-boy, 9/23/03 came and went, and Clarke didn’t fire Rummy. What’s up? Oh, I’m sorry, I misunderstood your statement. Learn how to write, asshat!
April 13th, 2006 at 6:07 pm> > > #41
HEY !!!!
IT”S I-Right-I !!!
How’s it going, pal?
April 13th, 2006 at 6:14 pmRummy is an addled drug pusher whose dreams of world dominance through better chemistry seem to be going awry…….
April 13th, 2006 at 6:14 pmOff Topic:
CBS site is running the “Gay Parents attending Easter Egg Hunt at the White House” story……
Am I remembering one of Dubious’ pet Secretary’s squawking about a couple of female parents on a television program about maple syrup, said program was hosted by a ……..RABBIT!!!
….This has all got to tie in with the War on Easter, I just know it…….. !!!!!!!!!
Anyone ever wonder how many of these retired generals were passed over for their next star? This latest one only had two. He’s probably as disgruntled as the last one who retired and said Rummy should resign/be fired.
Retired generals have the right to speak out, just as retired Master Sergeants do. This retired MSgt says “fuck all these retired generals–they’re retired. They’re no longer needed.”
BTW, I am watching a retired general who was Tommie Franks’ deputy commander during the victory in Afghanistan and the first three months of the victory in Iraq. Guess what this retired general had to say? Basically, he said that those retired generals should shut the fuck up and get a real life.
I love retired generals…
April 13th, 2006 at 6:19 pmLooks like Rummy could do with a refresher reading of his own rules. I think he has broken just about all of them.
April 13th, 2006 at 6:23 pm#41…..
April 13th, 2006 at 6:24 pmI’m kinda new here, exactly what is an ‘asshat’
I just can’t visualize what such an object could look like….
and, oh, it’s Rumsfeld, although RumsFLED has a nicer ring to it……..
Lordy, I just had a vision.. is an asshat one o’ dem dere furry toilet seat covers??????
P.S. Don’t forget to flush….
better yet, “go flush yerself”
google asshat….we can give you many people who qualify. How much time do you have?
April 13th, 2006 at 6:26 pmthanks for your …….kindness…:)
April 13th, 2006 at 6:30 pmDon’t you know that most high ranking military positions are based on years served and who you know? Guess you are just another uninformed ckickenhakw who hasn’t served.
Not sure how you think Clarke could have fired him. He doesn’t have the power, asshat. He meant that if he had the power, he would fire Rumsfeld.
Learn how to read asshat.
April 13th, 2006 at 6:30 pm#41 / #44
Did you bother to read #28?
What the troops think?
What they think, as of March 6th?
I’m sure that would include currently enlisted Master Sgts.
Enjoy your retirement.
April 13th, 2006 at 6:31 pmSo, you are watching General Pace, the republican suck up telling the retirees to shut up. That is like your mom telling a bully to shut up.
Asshat chickenhawk.
April 13th, 2006 at 6:33 pmMore of the republicans supporting the troops.
Chickenhawks all of them.
April 13th, 2006 at 6:34 pm[...] [...]
April 13th, 2006 at 6:36 pm“whathawk”???? WTF is that? if you were anything close to what the name suggests, you’d be in uniform in the desert. since you’re not shut, the fuck up, coward – wes clark ought to just beat the piss out of your sorry ass – go ahead – doubt that he could, you simpering punk. when the sub-70 iq division is formed up, we’ll bring you in to command it. (real, career soldiers and marines are all wrong, but “awol-from-air-guard” and “i-had-other-priorities” and their “college-wrasslin’-buddy” are right?? would someone in uniform straighten this stupid bastard out???)
April 13th, 2006 at 6:50 pmThis is how coups happen. The politicians simply won’t behave in a rational reasonable fashion. The military has to act for the good of the country.
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April 13th, 2006 at 6:55 pmIf I had the time I would start calling Rush his ilk and start complaining about how the military is filled with non Party, or traitorous Party members. This of course would be full tilt agit-prop.
Ask what can be done to insure absolute loyalty to The Party. Ask how such men came to be at the top. Has the military been infiltrated by liberals?
Then suggest we are losing in Iraq because the military is in fact full of traitors at the top.
We need a few good actors to take on this job because the possibiltes are just too delicious. Watch the wingnuts tie themselves in knots because they will want to condem these men and blaming the field men is a very very tempting scapegoat.
April 13th, 2006 at 7:00 pmOther generals who tell the truth:
http://radamisto.blogspot.com/2006/04/more-generals-speak-out.html
April 13th, 2006 at 7:06 pmThe fish rots from the HEAD DOWN! Getting rid of Rummie IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! THE WHOLE GODDAMN BUSH REGIME NEEDS ARRESTING BY U.S. TROOPS AND NOW! INCLUDING BUSH,CHENEY, RUMMIE, CONDI, WOLFOWITZ, BOLTON, AND JEB BUSH AND THE WHOLE GODDAMN PURE EVIL PNAC GROUP AS WELL! ALL OF THOSE NO GOOD, GODDAMN MF’ERS WHO WHERE ALSO BEHIND 9-11 AS WELL AS LYING TO TAKE US TO NEEDLESS WARS AND WHO ARE ABOUT TO GET US INTO ANOTHER ILLEGAL, IMMORAL,NEEDLESS WAR IN IRAN! Read this sheep, PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loose+change Plus, read this: http://www.bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=10899, the SAME DAMN PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BOMB IRAN NOW FOR NUCLEAR ENERGY, BACK IN 1976, ENCOURAGED IRAN TO HAVE NUCLEAR ENERGY! THEIR COMING ATTACK ON IRAN IS FOR REGIME CHANGE SHEEP! So Bush can conquer them too and STEAL THEIR OIL, WHILE PUTTING IN PLACE A REGIME THAT ANSWERS TO BUSH AND COHORTS! BUSH IS HITLER NO.2 ONLY WORSE, AS HE HAS MORE WEAPONS AND WMD’S AND WORSE AT HIS DISPOSSAL! WAKE THE F*CK UP SHEEP AND NOW! BEFORE THEY PULL OFF ANOTHER 9-11 TYPE FALSE FLAG ATTACK ON U.S AND BLAME INNOCENT IRAN FOR IT! OR BOMB INNOCENT IRAN, PERIOD! IRAN has the RIGHT TO HAVE NUCLEAR ENERGY! EVIL Bush regime’s “Pre-emptive strike” policy is NOT working and lets him/them bomb people if they DON’T EVEN DO ANYTHING! Then read this: August 1, 2005 Issue
Copyright © 2005 The American Conservative
Deep Background
In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the administration who brought you Iraq are preparing to do the same for Iran. The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney’s office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing—that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack—but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections.
April 13th, 2006 at 7:14 pm[...] Update: See also “Another General Calls For Rumsfeld’s Resignation” at Think Progress. This is genuinely extraordinary, for reasons modus potus explains here. But I have it on good authority that the brass has hated Rummy from the get-go. [...]
April 13th, 2006 at 7:16 pmI nominate Jeff Gannon/Jim Guckert for Secretary of Defense.
April 13th, 2006 at 7:17 pm28 – hadenough
50 – Simon Cowell – Did you bother to read #28? (I did and at least am taking the time to look at the source, unless you support that half truth fully while complaining about the Bush lies)
At least be fair with your own source ( http://www.armytimes.com/ content/ editorial/ pdf/ 022406_commandclimate_survey.pdf ) and add the rest of the responses. Sure anyone could cite a poll and only use 75.9% of the responses. Drop the 17% that had something favorable to say and the 6% that didn’t feel qualified to answer. Does it paint a rosy picture of Rumsfeld, nope, but at least it’s the true one from the source provided.
For anyone who wants the true results of Hadenough’s source.
He would be be a tough guy to work for, but in all honesty, he gets the job done. I respect him.2.1%
Don’t confuse self-confidence with arrogance. He really is a very capable guy 17.3%
I do not feel qualified to answer this question 6.7%
I work fairly often with him/I’ve seen him in action. He’s pretty much as you see; no worse, no better. 30.1%
You’re right. Pass the potatoes. 43.7%
April 13th, 2006 at 7:28 pmIf Rumsfield resigns…
Y’know, Tom Delay just happens to be out of a job. Considering pest control is not half as exciting as lording it over lots of generals and talking very optimistically about
the thosands of tactical errors in this sad war, he may be interested. He has a long history of lying with great conviction and he smiles so nicely at a variety of cameras.
He’d be perfect. He could could continue to “hammer” all the Army brass.
Any good golf courses in Iran?
April 13th, 2006 at 7:34 pmOh – if only Bush and Cheney would resign… and take Condi and Rummy and traitor Rove and traitor Gonzo with them.
April 13th, 2006 at 7:35 pm#63: Any good golf courses in Iran? – - Nah, the sand traps are huge, and the dog legs are really dog legs.
April 13th, 2006 at 7:52 pmArchangel,
Just because Rice used the wrong term doesn’t mena we should.
A tactical error is when something like a field artillery round hits the wrong place. That is not what is happening.
A strategical error is when you send too few troops to occupy another country. That is what happened.
So, use the term “thousnads of strategical errors”
April 13th, 2006 at 7:52 pmHello Tundra,
So you have a 2.1 and a 17.3 favorable. A total of 19.4.
A 43.7 unfavorable. In my mind – “what you see is what you get” with Rumsfeld cannot be favorable – but I’ll split it ( the 30% ) with you.
So we are at ( at least ) 60% unfavorable to about 35% favorable.
Not very good, pal.
Take it easy.
April 13th, 2006 at 7:52 pmcats are flyfishn, Get a Clue,sheep! Rummie, Condi, Cheney and Bush and Bolton and WHOLE damn PURE EVIL PNAC GROUP AND OTHERS, including some Democrats, including Bill Clinton ARE TRAITORS ALSO! Bush,cheney, rummie, Condi, and others were behind and involved in 9-11! Including Jeb Bush also! Get a clue,sheep! They don’t need to resign but BE ARRESTED AND NOW! FOR TREASON! SO THE GODDAMN BASTARDS DON’T HAVE US PAY FOR THEIR GODDAMN HEALTHCARE AND PENSIONS, WHILE THEY GET OFF SCOTT FREE WITH JUST GODDAMN RESIGNING! THAT IS NOT JUSTICE, SHEEP! JUSTICE IS THEY ALL, ALL GET FROG MARCHED OUT OF OFFICE AND NOW BY U.S. TROOPS FOR TREASON, WAR CRIMINALS THEY ARE, AND TRAITORS AND 1.FIRST SENT TO N.O. IN TOXIC WATER WITH GATORS, AND NO FOOD, NO WATER AND NO HELP, LIKE THEY LEFT OUR FELLOW CITIZENS, INCLUDING EVIL MIKE CHERTOFF, WHO HAS DUAL CITIZENSHIP WITH U.S. AND ISRAEL, then if they get out of that, 2. Send the murdering, PURE EVIL BASTARDS TO GITMO, where they put a little 10year old innocent kid, and torture them by U.S. troops, victim’s families of 9-11, and innocent Iraqi’s victims families, then 3. Strip them of all worldly goods and money and put back in U.S. Treasury,which they stold and also take EVERYTHING FROM “BABES” BUSH TOO, who is an uppity bitch and thougth those people in N.O. “never had it so good” after hurricane! 4. Then and ONLY then hang or shoot them for TREASON, IF they get through ALL of these things! NOW THIS WOULD BE TRUE JUSTICE! AND THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO ALL OF THEM AND NOW! F*CKING RESIGNING IS NOTHING, WHILE US TAXPAYERS HAVE TO STILL PAY FOR THEIR GODDAMN RETIREMENT,ETC. WHILE THEY WALK AWAY SCOTT FREE FROM WAR CRIMES,MURDERING OUR OWN PEOPLE, AND THE WHOLE GODDAMN BUSHIT! I WANT F*CKING JUSTICE AND NOW! RESIGNING IS TOO GODDAMN EASY ON THESE MF’ERS! THEY NEED TO BE STRUNG UP AND HANGED FOR TREASON AND ABOVE AND NOW! ANYTHING LESS IS INJUSTICE TO THE MAX! ANYTHING LESS IS INJUSTICE, PURE AND SIMPLE! RESIGNING FOR THESE MF’ERS IS WAY,WAY TOO GOOD FOR ALL OF THEM! ALL THE HORROR AND PAIN AND SUFFERING THESE PURELY EVIL BASTARDS CAUSED AND COLONIELS WANT RUMMIE TO RESIGN!? SCREW THAT! I want them ALL hanged for TREASON AT THE VERY LEAST AND NOW! DON’T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH LITERALLY MASS MURDER! AND TREASON BY RESIGNING! F*CK THAT BUSHIT AND COLLIN POWELL NEEDS HANGED TOO FOR TREASON AND WAR CRIMES AS WELL AND NOW! HE KNEW THEY WERE LYING YET WENT ALONG WITH IT!
April 13th, 2006 at 8:08 pm7 Generals, now how many ‘troops’ would like him gone?….they are ‘not allowed’ to say, if they do they could end up in the brig.
April 13th, 2006 at 8:10 pmGET A CLUE, GENERALS! THE PROBLEM ISN’T RUMMIE BUT BEING IN IRAQ IN FIRST GODDAMN PLACE, OVER LIES,LIES AND MORE LIES! THAT’S THE GODDAMN PROBLEM! AND GETTING RID OF RUMMIE IS NOT THE TOTAL ANSWER BUT BRINGING ALL OUR TROOPS HOME AND NOW IS! THEN INDICT, IMPRISON THEM ALL FOR TREASON, WAR CRIMINALS THEY ARE AND WAR CRIMES! AND NOW! BUSH,CHENEY, RUMMIE, CONDI, JEB BUSH, WHOLE GODDAMN PURE EVIL PNAC GROUP AND NOW!
April 13th, 2006 at 8:12 pm67,
I sort of see it as
19.4% Favor
43.7% Unfavorable
36.8% Undecided/Political answer (If you are sitting at a relatives house for Sunday dinner, saying make up your own mind he is just like he seems can go either way) I don’t even want to split it.
A good testimonial of old Rummy, Nope. But at least it includes the answers so people can judge for themselves.
April 13th, 2006 at 8:14 pmThis country needs not only a new Defense secretary we also need a new government all three branches need to be imprisoned, as well foreign policy people..anyone who has had power since WWII, has violated the constitution as well as International laws..why don’t you think dubya signed to be a part of the International criminal court, because all their policies violate those laws..We need to elect leaders that promise to criminally charge and extensively prosecute all of them when they win..And all bushees appointees shouls also be fired…vote third and forth party candidates..bring back peace and prosperity for all americans not just the corporate greedsters..
April 13th, 2006 at 8:20 pmStolen military data for sale in Afghanistan
Portable computer drives peddled at bazaar outside Bagram Air Base
WASHINGTON – Just outside the main gate of the huge U.S. military base in Bagram, Afghanistan, shopkeepers at a bazaar peddle a range of goods, including computer drives with sensitive — even secret information — stolen from the base.
This week, an NBC News producer, using a hidden camera, visited the bazaar and bought a half dozen of the memory drives the size of a thumb known as flash drives. On them, NBC News found highly sensitive military information, some which NBC will not reveal.
“This isn’t just a loss of sensitive information,†says Lt. Col. Rick Francona (ret.), an NBC News military analyst. “This is putting U.S. troops at risk. This is a violation of operational security.â€
Some of the data would be valuable to the enemy, including:
Names and personal information for dozens of DOD interrogators;
Documents on an “interrogation support cell†and interrogation methods;
IDs and photos of U.S. troops.
With information like this, “You could cripple our U.S. intelligence collection capability in Afghanistan,†says Francona.
Among the photos of Americans are pictures of individuals who appear to have been tortured and killed, most too graphic to show. NBC News does not know who caused their injuries. The Pentagon would not comment on the photos.
The tiny computer memories are believed to have been smuggled off base by Afghan employees and sold to shopkeepers. Whoever buys one can simply plug it into another computer, and in a couple of minutes, see thousands of files.
Other reporters have bought drives at the bazaar containing classified information, including names and photos of Afghans spying for the U.S. and maps revealing locations of radar used to foil mortar attacks.
“This is simply appalling,†says Col. Ken Allard (ret.), an NBC News military analyst. “You’ve got a situation in which the U.S. is going to be forced to change an awful lot of its operational techniques.â€
Thursday, the base commander said he’s ordered an investigation into activities at the bazaar and into procedures supposed to keep sensitive secrets secure.
this is the whole story that was posted
April 13th, 2006 at 8:23 pm#73 is a must read and it will just make you bite your upper lip off.
April 13th, 2006 at 8:24 pmour security is top-notch
April 13th, 2006 at 8:25 pm73,
Yeah I read that one too! There is no excuse for that kind of incompetence and negligence.
April 13th, 2006 at 8:30 pmbs,
I just read that.
Republicans are great on national security aren’t they.
April 13th, 2006 at 8:35 pmhere we go. the very folks we are at war with get to have access to our most secretive info. i would say it supercedes illegal immigrants hired by the fed. gov. and constructing officer housing on a military base.what a bunch of flippin clowns. this is bushco at it’s finest.
April 13th, 2006 at 8:41 pmi would like to hear rush and hannity say these six guys are giving comfort to the enemy and undermining the morale of the troops. let’s hear the rebublican leaders tell these guys they are unpatriotic and are giving strength to the enemy. does o’reily have the balls to say to these guys that the media is distorting the truth of what is going on over there like he does with the new york timesand various media outlets?
April 13th, 2006 at 8:47 pmwho says things in iraq are going well besides the talking heads at fox?
Rumsfeld has been on the B list all of his life. He finally made it to the top and he has a death grip on it and will never let go. He also knows where all the bodies are buried..
April 13th, 2006 at 8:55 pm[...] I bet a lot of people leaving their employer advocates the firing of their former boss: Breaking: Another General Calls For Rumsfeld’s Resignation (Faiz/Think Progress): “Breaking: Another General Calls For Rumsfeld’s Resignation‘ —’ CNN is reporting that a fifth retired general is calling for Rumsfeld’s resignation. … Actually, this may be the sixth general.’ Generals Newbold, Eaton, Zinni, and Batiste have gained prominent attention in calling for Rumsfeld’s resignation. Source: ‘ Think Progress Author: ‘ Faiz Link: ‘ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/13/the-chorus-grows… View discussion“ [...]
April 13th, 2006 at 9:19 pmRetired generals have the right to speak out, just as retired Master Sergeants do. This retired MSgt says “fuck all these retired generals–they’re retired. They’re no longer needed.â€
BTW, I am watching a retired general who was Tommie Franks’ deputy commander during the victory in Afghanistan and the first three months of the victory in Iraq. Guess what this retired general had to say? Basically, he said that those retired generals should shut the fuck up and get a real life.
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Well said.
All you veterans should SHUT THE FUK UP. You multiple amupteers from Iraq SHUT THE FUK UP. Oh and gold star mothers guess what SHUT THE FUK UP.
stupidity aside. (I lost control for a moment)
I get what you have just said. people are entiled to there opnions. Critisism of the war can be constructive but there should be a line drawn somwhere. If there are serious failures of command. (incompetence, criminal negligence) then we expect the US army to speak out.
April 13th, 2006 at 9:28 pmPeople like the late and highly decorated Hackworth was one of them.
The Generals want Rumsfeld to resign, but like Bush he refuses to do so! America is becoming more like Nazi Germany every day > even Generals grumbling about a coup, but Bush and Rummy just lay in wait to bushwack them if they try! Interesting to see how this turns out?!
April 13th, 2006 at 9:29 pmGeneral John Riggs fired for telling the truth Rumsfeld did not want to hear. Heres his Baltimore Sun story
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/37/11476
April 13th, 2006 at 9:46 pmRumsfeld isn’t going to resign because he IS this administration, just as much as Cheney is and considerably more than Bush is.
Rummy isn’t going to resign because Dubya won’t let him. That would be an admission that Iraq was (and is) a fustercluck and a bone-headed incompetent move (leaving aside immoral and unethical). But Dubya is constitutionally (in the only remaining sense of he word) incapable of admitting a mistake. “Never give up, never surrender” says the guy who’s even more a fraud than Jason Nesmith pretending to be Commander Taggart (and quite a bit less likely to be saved by some “and with one bound, Jack was free” screenplay work).
It’s a sad state of affairs when a fiction movie about a fake TV series is closer to reality than what we have in the White House.
Cheers,
April 13th, 2006 at 9:53 pmDamn, Sue (#68, #70), you go, girl!
April 13th, 2006 at 9:53 pmI have to say I agree.
LINE THEM ALL UP AGAINST A BRICK WALL….
April 13th, 2006 at 10:17 pm[...] Yet another top general goes public with his desire to see Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld step down. [...]
April 13th, 2006 at 10:24 pm[...] Amid increasing chatter about Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld stepping down – including the three four five generals who have publicly called for his resignation in recent weeks – the question becomes: Who’s next? [...]
April 13th, 2006 at 10:28 pmBTW, I am watching a retired general who was Tommie Franks’ deputy commander during the victory in Afghanistan and the first three months of the victory in Iraq.
Uhmmm … errr … victory?! Victory?! WTF?! When?!
April 13th, 2006 at 10:50 pmIs it because they fear that the order will come to nuke Iran and they don’t want to have to follow that order- they want someone who will go to Bush and nix the idea? notice he said’ and those around him”
April 13th, 2006 at 11:33 pmActually, Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution says it nicely:
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
SO, all the War mongers out there forcing the insurgents to kill our GIs, and this traitorous cabal that is in Washington, should be held to this standard. They have caused an unsurrection of the country back in 2000 and are all TRAITORS to the state. Never to be allowed to hold office again, and HUNG!
April 13th, 2006 at 11:46 pmHANG YOU MOTHERFUCKERS, HANG.
I love it, another general calls for resignation, and the media significantly under-reports it…I don’t understand how if Someones nipple pops out during the Superbowl it is a travesty, but bush’s trasgressions aren’t even acknowledged as mistakes
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April 14th, 2006 at 12:04 amMake that six retired generals, according to ABlog.
Anyway, I know it’s late and we all here on the East Coast should be in bed or hiding our pink and purple hard-boiled eggs to celebrate the brutal murder of Christ. But I have a new blogwhoring post up that should keep you occupied tomorrow until I can post something more substantial. The list ain’t long but it’s quantity over quality and I have some good links up of Digby, Prof. Juan Cole and others. Enjoy.
April 14th, 2006 at 12:13 am[...] As the anti-Iraq war drumbeat grows louder, we will see who has the courage of his or her convictions. Surely not the six former (i.e., now retired) generals who have recently called for Rumsfeld’s resignation. Where were they at the height of the in-fighting at the Pentagon? [...]
April 14th, 2006 at 12:27 amdon’t forget … Rummy was the top official actually PHYSICALLY PRESENT at a 9/11 attack .. he was quite verbose about feeling his office shake and running out onto the green with the smoke all around …
April 14th, 2006 at 12:44 amthis is what the rothchilds and all of his tentacles have been planning for decades. this is NOT a new deal with bushyboy. bushwhack is one of the many. these guys are nazi/zionists criminals at it’s highest. where is a suicide bomber when ya need one.
April 14th, 2006 at 12:55 am96
That’s a good point, I had forgotten about!
Rumsfeld was pulling people out of the Pentagon. Something everyone should remember when critizing him. If you were in one of the buildings that was hit and you were pulling friends and bodies of friends out of the rubble, would you be any different? Would you let it go? Would you ever change your stance from that day? Could you be objective with the intelligence brought in front of you? Would you consider stepping down and letting someone else handle it, or would you feel the most qualified?
We can all say “I would do this or that” but if that was me, I just don’t know.
April 14th, 2006 at 3:33 amAre you kidding me? Rumsfeld wasn’t pulling any god damn bodies out of the Pentagon. He was present, but he wasn’t dragging friends and bodies of friends out of the rubble. Give us a fvcking break. That is under Rumsfeld. He wouldn’t want to get his Armani suit dirty.
The only thing I will remember about Rumsfeld is that he worked under Cheney who worked under Nixon and him shaking hands with Saddam Hussien.
Tundra, you are usually better than spewing some bullshit like that. Sad.
I expect that from wwallace or mighty aphrodite.
April 14th, 2006 at 3:40 amAre you kidding me? Rumsfeld wasn’t pulling any god damn bodies out of the Pentagon. He was present, but he wasn’t dragging friends and bodies of friends out of the rubble.
Ok, I am giving you a conspiracy site link here. Be careful how you use it. they pretty much hate Rummy, but even they aren’t saying he was’t pulling friends and coworkers out of the pentagon. they are slamming him for not doing the more important job of worrying about the country as opposed to “Helping the wounded”.(OK, make that argument, I’m a selfish type guy and will agree)
http://www.medienanalyse-international.de/rumsfeld.html
At 9:53 a.m., just 15 minutes after the hijacked plane had hit the Pentagon, and while Rumsfeld was still outside helping with the injured,….â€
“Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was in his office inside the Pentagon when the blast happened with no warning. Rumsfeld rushed to the area of the blast and for 15 minutes helped load the wounded onto stretchers. He then retreated to the National Military Command Center where senior military leaders pondered the question: What Now.”\
Paul Gonzalez, 46, a budget analyst, smashed a hole in the wall and crawled out. He was pulled to safety by Donald Rumsfeld who, although ordered by the secret service to leave the Pentagon, had refused.
“BRIGADIER GENERAL W MONTAGUE WINFIELD, US ARMY
For 30 minutes we couldn’t find him. And just as we began to worry, he walked into the door of the National Military Command Center.”
For nearly an hour since 9:40 apparently the NMCC did not know if Rumsfeld was killed or where he was – in times of cell phones, buzzers not only around Rumsfeld himself, but with his personal aides accompanying him. Is this plausible? Is it explainable? (ummmm take a deep breath and think about this one, do you answer your pager when helping people out of a burning building??)
Pretty much he was not securing the country and wasting his time helping people in immediate danger (as quoted by a very liberal site). If you want to slam him for other things feel free, I won’t argue. He did assist during 9/11.
The only thing I will remember about Rumsfeld is that he worked under Cheney who worked under Nixon and him shaking hands with Saddam Hussien.
Pretty thing about google, you can learn new things!
I expect that from wwallace or mighty aphrodite.
April 14th, 2006 at 4:49 amSince you decided to compare me to Mighty there, I’ll pull the Karma card. You should leave the debating up to Ryan because he can do it, You can’t. Most people feel the urge to say something and do, but at least have the common decency not to insult someone if they are not sure. I remember your Chickenhawk assumptions and insulting of my MOS but was trying to forget it till you compared me to Mighty there. There is a place called google that you can look things up before you take the time to insult someone when you are clearly wrong.
MMM! 5 generals… do I detect the whiff of a coup in the air me thinks?
The Sentinel
April 14th, 2006 at 8:14 am#101 – Make that 6.
April 14th, 2006 at 10:32 am#98 You can pull bodies out of flames, but that doesn’t make you capable of micromanaging career generals in a large scale war.
C’mon, you believe three or four people who have offered little or no service to this country and have IQs of less than 100 rather than 6 generals who spent their lives servicing your ass? Your judgment is clouded and you aren’t thinking straight. Just because Bush can use a blowhorn doesn’t mean he can lead a country — obviously.
Use your powers of deduction and stop thinking about our leaders as your buds. That was a ploy used by Bush to rope nonthinkers or lazy thinkers into a vote. Many Americans have been used by this admin and don’t even care or understand.
This admin is inept. It is no secret and they have no humility or pride left. They are swimming on spin and sinking quickly.
Oh Sweet November!
April 14th, 2006 at 10:41 amhow could rummy pull anyone out of the rubble when he was directley across from where the drone, missile hit the pentagon. 15min would have taken him to run that far. so did he smile first and say bush we did it. then “run” 1/2 way around the building to assist. and that was a front to make the sheeples believe he was really concerned. what he was doing was getting pumped up for the shock and awe and mission accomplished. give me a break. and if he did “assist” it wasn’t much. and yeah he assisted alright. he helped kill thousand of our fellow americans.
April 14th, 2006 at 11:35 amALL IN THE NAME OF OIL I SHOULD ADD
April 14th, 2006 at 11:36 amRummie’s going nowhere. If Bush fired him, Bush would also have to fire Cheney, Condi, most of the White House, all of his cabinet and advisors, and himself.
Looking at it from our perspective, they’re all in it together, and firing Rumsfeld would in itself accomplish nothing but a shuffling of chairs.
From Bush’s perspective, Bush wouldn’t see any political benefit — he’d have to put in some college roomie who’d never been in uniform before, and that would go down even less well than Rummie. That sort of thing can only work when they have iron-fisted control over the media narrative, and they don’t have that now.
We can’t lose, politically, by calling for Rummie’s resignation, but our attention should really be focused on censure and impeachment. The replacement of Rummie would change nothing in any case.
April 14th, 2006 at 12:51 pm[...] Carpetbagger, Think Progress, Team BIO, Daily Kos, Crooks and Liars have more. [...]
April 14th, 2006 at 2:37 pm#96: I do recall seeing a photo of Rumsfeld, shirt sleeves rolled up, helping to carry a stretcher at the Pentagon on 9/11. But think about this: the man was the secretary of defense and the country was under attack. Helping to move the wounded was not his job. To this day I still can’t believe he (or his aides) did not have enough presence of mind to find the sec of defense a secure location and secure communications immediately.
April 14th, 2006 at 4:49 pmCol.David Hackworth had a name for officers like
April 14th, 2006 at 7:56 pmGen. Wesley Clark and his ilk,Perfume officers,you
know under the desk with chapstick and knee pads.
I belive Clinton fired old Wes as he couldn’t get the job done in Kosovo!!!
I belive Clinton fired old Wes as he couldn’t get the job done in Kosovo!!!
I think he did too–but that didn’t stop ol’ Wes from giving Slicky Blue Dress a knobber for that fourth star, or so I’m told…
April 15th, 2006 at 5:36 amDon’t you know that most high ranking military positions are based on years served and who you know? Guess you are just another uninformed ckickenhakw who hasn’t served.
You’re wrong, sponge-Bob. And what the fuck is a “chickenhakw?”
BTW, Sponge-Bob, I did 20 years in the military. Once an enlisted persone reaches the rank of E-7, future promotions are based on yeasr served, performance, and a promotions board. For commissioned officers, Generals are appointed/promoted by the President. You’re half-right; who you know does count. Wes Clark knew Slicky Blue-Dress, intimately, hence his fourth star.
Now, for a quic writing lesson, asshat. You wrote, or plagarized, the following:
General Wesley Clarke told an audience in New Hampshire that he would fire Rumsfled on September 26, 2003.
The above statement implies that Wes, aka Ashley Wilkes, would fire Rummy on 9/26/2003. This is how the statement should have been written, asshat:
On September 26, 2003, General Ashley Wilkes told a New Hampshire audience that he would fire Rumsfeld.
Anyone with a high school education and some college writing credit would know this. Sponge-Bob, I was taking college English classes back when you were poopin’ yellow. Don’t tell me how to write, asshat–work on gettin’ your GED, take some college classes, then get back to me. ASSHAT…
April 15th, 2006 at 5:50 am[...] Meanwhile, a seventh general has added his name to the growing chorus: “I admire those who have stepped forward, and I agree with the arguments they are making,” retired Marine Lt. Gen. Paul K. Van Riper said in an interview yesterday. “I count myself in the same camp.” [...]
April 15th, 2006 at 10:38 amWho’s next, Jesus’ General? If that happens, then all hope is lost.
April 15th, 2006 at 3:22 pmI am ashamed to admit that I am a registered republican. When we first entered this war it was clear we were winning, yet we kept bombing and bombing Bagdad. I wrote an email to President Bush telling him we should stop bombing because we would be the ones who must pay to repair all the damage we created. I don’t know how many others wrote similar requests, but we all know no one listened. Rumsfeld thinks he is very intelligent, yet it doesn’t take someone with much intelligence to know if you topple a government you need to have something else to take its place. Yet all the NGOs with plans for an interim government who wanted to talk to him before the envasion were rejected. When Iraqis ran wild destroying centuries old artifacts, Rumsfield said they were acting out past frustrations and for several days did nothing to stop the anarchy. Of course one reason is because they didn’t have an interim government with proper controls in place. I wonder why. I wrote an email before the last election listing several instances why I thought Rumsfeld should be replaced. I told President Bush that if Rumsfeld was on his team, he would lose my vote. Obviously he didn’t need my vote. This administration has botched this war and our standing in the world. It sickens me. I am another American who is repulsed by this Bush administration. I would rather have Clinton any day than what we have now. I wonder if Hilllary would like an ex Republican on her team. An Unhappy Republican
April 17th, 2006 at 11:42 amOf all the people to piss off– the head of the 82nd. I mean .. damn.
April 17th, 2006 at 2:23 pmso… anyone have a take on masons and the brass? as far as the Skull & Bones in office, personally, i think they’re ruining the us economy on purpose – and are in cahoots with the fed.. strengthening the euro/the ‘world’ economy at the expense of america. TREASON! i think HAARP, and other interesting technology needs to be DISMANTLED around the world. katrina cost 70 billion – and we’re now being warned of some massive volcano/quake that’s gonna hit the northwest. i am against a ‘new world order’, and i consider it treason for those in office to do as they have; deregulation, the spy act, the executive orders – the powers of fema… skull and bones, high masons, and the badguy isrealis.
April 17th, 2006 at 2:51 pm‘Be Wise As Serpants’ is an interesting book – if you can find it.
my take on things is that there is an anti-Christ comming, and some of the zionist isrealis dont realize they’re playing on the wrong team… which i think will lead all the nations against isreal. Illumaniti game made in 1995, the Lone Gunmen – pilot episode (aired 6 mos before 911)… there are many many things going on for those who aren’t paying any attention. do a quick googlesearch for ‘aspartame’ – rummi was largely responsible for getting that passed through the FDA. they need taken out of power, but how? and who could you trust to replace them? there’s some cool technology out now – fMRI that you can tell if someone is attempting to lie; i’d LOVE to use it & to put ‘em all on the stand. satan showed jesus all the nations….
as far as president stuff.. i think things are well understood by polls/statistics well before running. kerry is also skull & bones..
So hey warhawk, assuming that you actually did 20 years in the military (that’s the Army,
April 17th, 2006 at 7:37 pmMarine Corps or Navy, the Air Farce doesn’t count) how much dick did you suck to get your rank? I’m assuming that since you know so much about how Clark got his fourth star that you sucked quite a bit to get that third rocker, have you gotten the taste out of your mouth yet you little bitch?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12290187/site/newsweek/
An informal panel of senior Pentagon officials has been holding a series of unannounced private meetings during the past several weeks about how to proceed with a possible merger between the Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA), a post-9/11 Pentagon creation that has been accused of domestic spying, and the Defense Security Service (DSS), a well-established older agency responsible for inspecting the security arrangements of defense contractors. DSS also maintains millions of confidential files containing the results of background investigations on defense contractors’ employees.
http://www.freedomdomain.com/cia.html
i’m just curious as to who has the power to slow down the new world order… or at least, how to minimize their damage.
April 17th, 2006 at 8:35 pmscan the most cursory biography of rumsfeld and you catch a glimpse of how entrenched he is in some of the most troubling companies and developments in this country. Take your pick: a drug company he used to own developed Asparatame and is now owned by Monsanto. During the Cold War he was instrumental in building up the defense budget by making stuff up about the Soviet economy. He makes money on every bird flu virus sold to the government. He is the worst exampel of the worst administration in the history of this country. At least the last 100 years if you exccuse harding.
April 18th, 2006 at 6:54 pmRumsfeld should be fired, arrested and sent to jail for war crimes, and facilitating the murder of 3000 citizens on september 11, 2001.
As should Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the PNAC mob.
Why are none of you talking about this? Do you not care?
April 18th, 2006 at 10:32 pmNO MATTER IF ALL OFFICCERS AT THE PENTAGON CUT THEIR VEINS, RUMSFELD KNOWS SO MANY DARK STUFF OF BUSH AND CHENEY; SECOND EVEN IF HE DOESN´T CONFESS, RUMSFELD HAS ISRAELI ROOTS, THAT´S A POWERFUL BUT A COVERED UP INFLUENCE, SO ALL 3 KNEW IRAK DIDN´T HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, BUT SO SIMULATED, AMERICAN BLOOD IS BEING USED TO CLEAN AROUND ISRAEL´S FEARS. SO DISGUSTING, BUT ACTUALLY A BIT MORE LATER, RUMSFELD AND HIS TEXAS ASSOCIATES WILL PAY. ASSOCIATES BECAUSE JEWS DON´T HAVE FRIENDS, ONLY ASSOCIATES…AND BY THE WAY, THEN DUMPED!!
April 19th, 2006 at 1:42 am[...] Van Riper follows the calls of Generals Swannack, Newbold, Eaton, Zinni, Batiste, Riggs, and Clark. [...]
April 24th, 2006 at 3:16 pmzinni said “I spent 40 years defending the constitution, now Im going to start exercising my first amendment rights under it.”
why have critics on the one hand, stated that this undermines civilian control of the military and military authority,when generals have a right to speak as citizens, and yet on the other, claim that they should have spoken out sooner, before retiring, when that would have undermined military authority and civilian control far more, the very reasons they say they should not speak out now?
April 25th, 2006 at 12:20 pmThis country is a mess right now. To kill a weed i.e. a dandelion, you do not simply remove the flower, you kill the roots.
There must be a neutral third party to investigate any and all insinuations. Bearing false witness is not the truth. Let’s stop our complaining and start resolving the problem.
I am tired of vague descriptions of terrorists, blah blah. I want facts, not heresay. 9th commandment: Thou shalt not bear false witness.
I am not convinced of anything at this time. Hence, there is the OBVIOUS need for a neutral investigative unit to investigate. This is for the well being of of us all.
If you are generals, then start acting like one. I am not impressed if you all have been guarding the territory that I live in.
Passing the blame is very lame.
Give me some answers, not BS and no propaganda. The sooner that everyone fesses up to horseshit and tells the truth. The sooner this will be a better place.
September 25th, 2006 at 11:38 pmThis country is a mess right now. To kill a weed i.e. a dandelion, you do not simply remove the flower, you kill the roots.
There must be a neutral third party to investigate any and all insinuations. Bearing false witness is not the truth. Let’s stop our complaining and start resolving the problem.
I am tired of vague descriptions of terrorists, blah blah. I want facts, not heresay. 9th commandment: Thou shalt not bear false witness.
I am not convinced of anything at this time. Hence, there is the OBVIOUS need for a neutral investigative unit to investigate. This is for the well being of of us all.
If you are generals, then start acting like one. I am not impressed if you all have been guarding the territory that I live in.
Passing the blame is very lame.
Give me some answers, not BS and no propaganda. The sooner that everyone fesses up to horseshit and tells the truth. The sooner this will be a better place.
September 25th, 2006 at 11:39 pmI question the motive and the timing. If Abu Graib is an atrocity than the bridge hangings was a nuclear war.
We all know the anti American, anti military media is demon rat infested. I cancelled advertising in the Stars and Stripes because it resembled the New York communist slimes.
It is harder to brain wash battle hardened troops than Kerry poison ivy league college kids but demoncrats will try anyhing to win reinfection.
November 4th, 2006 at 12:48 pmOne nation under God.
Two under Bush
Three under Der Rumsfeld Marshall.
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http://www.pirateradio.com
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