O’Reilly Reversal: “There Is No Attack On Easter”
O’Reilly Reversal: “There Is No Attack On Easter”
Last night, Bill O’Reilly attacked Cynthia Tucker of the Atlanta Journal Constitution for writing this:
Still, fresh from their holy war against “holiday trees” and “the fat guy in the red suit,” talk show hosts are taking up arms in defense of an embattled Easter, which they claim is under attack by the same political correctness that supposedly menaced Christmas trees and Santa.
O’Reilly called Tucker’s piece a “nutty diatribe” and then set the record straight:
First of all, there is no attack on Easter. Only two dumb incidents, one in St. Paul, Minnesota, where a secretary was asked to take down decorations featuring the Easter Bunny. And one in Georgia, where an Easter event was changed to a Spring event. After pressure, it’s back to an Easter event.
Gosh, where could Tucker have gotten the idea that talk show hosts like O’Reilly claimed Easter was under attack? Bill O’Reilly, 4/11/06:
Although some left-wingers in the media deny it, we have documented a number of cases where Christian holidays like Christmas and Easter have been attacked by secular interests. Lawsuits and corporate policies have proved this point over and over again.
When will those nutty left-wingers get their fact straight.
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Then some school will cancel an easter egg hunt and Bill will be right back on the ‘war on easter’ train again. In fact, he’ll claim he was the first to break the story about how secularists are trying to kill the easter bunny.
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April 14th, 2006 at 1:20 pmhttp://griperblade.blogspot.com - grumblings from the heartland
Could O’Rielly have finally come to the realization that the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus have nothing to do with Christianity?
April 14th, 2006 at 1:22 pmYeah, take that Cynthia…you are now in the spin zone…er… I mean the no spin zone…whatever.
April 14th, 2006 at 1:22 pmWhat a silly, silly man. He’s just trying to get attention. Since no one is watching his show anymore…
April 14th, 2006 at 1:23 pmDammit! Ok, so we’re still having Easter Bunny stew at La Casa Luna, but ya’ll aren’t invited. The orders for pink and blue chicks, and ham-fisted toddlers are canceled. Fine, Bill, just FINE!
April 14th, 2006 at 1:24 pmThere have to be two of them … twins, clones, something. That’ the only thing that could explain it.
April 14th, 2006 at 1:25 pmP.S. Judd, I love these goofy photos you’re able to find to match the absurd demeanor of these out-of-control freaks.
April 14th, 2006 at 1:25 pmLets put it this way, all of those drugs these pundits are taking aren’t exactly good for the memory centres of the brain.
April 14th, 2006 at 1:27 pmWe have always been at war with EastAsia!
April 14th, 2006 at 1:35 pm“First of all, there is no attack on Easter. Only two dumb incidents..” - - B-b-b-but Bill, there’s only been ONE terrorist attack on the U.S. by them towel-headed, one-worlder, false-idol heathens, and aren’t we under attack from them?
April 14th, 2006 at 1:39 pmI caught this last night actually. The thing that continues to amaze/scare me is that so many people do tune in to his show. I’m starting to wonder if America isn’t two completely different countries.
April 14th, 2006 at 1:44 pm“First of all, there is no attack on Easter. Only two dumb incidents..†- - B-b-b-but Bill, there’s only been ONE terrorist attack on the U.S. by them towel-headed, one-worlder, false-idol heathens, and aren’t we under attack from them?
Comment by Badmoodman — April 14, 2006 @ 1:39 pm
Or maybe, he’s calling them ’smart’ incidents. And, therefore, calling the attackers smart? Not very American Bill. Perhaps there should be a media war on you?
April 14th, 2006 at 1:49 pmWill someone please up his meds.?
April 14th, 2006 at 1:52 pm#2—Spudge, you are correct…Easter and Christmas are not mentioned in the
April 14th, 2006 at 1:52 pmbible at all, and are a figment of psuedo-christian delusional worship. Note to B.O.: When you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember anything–simple.
#12 Oh but it is… do recall the political cartoons featuring the united states of canada and jesusland… i stay away from jesus land because although i’m male, middle class, and white red states sure as hell don’t appreciate me… or take notice to the 2004 election results vs free states and slave states pre civil war. i think it was 2 states that flip flopped (well keep in mind also not all the states existed, but the lines are very similar if you look at maps that display these things) it really is 2 different countries, and the rift between us doesn’t seem to be mending itself all that well. it seems you’re either a christian fundamentalist, or you still have some form of free thought.
April 14th, 2006 at 1:52 pmWas it not at first the ultra-right christians who attacked the easter bunny and santa claus for steering people away from the true meaning of religous holidays . I remember the church lady Dana Carvey himself or herself saying santa was just a word scramble for SATAN . One thing is for sure O’Really and all other right-wing pundits and politicians are like the easter bunny and santa , symbols of christianity tthat actually have little resemblence to their true meaning .
April 14th, 2006 at 1:55 pmUnbelievable- I am so sure that Keith Olbermann will find out about this and shame that silly old man in public once again as he has done so. I can’t wait for Keith’s book “The Worlds Worst People in the World.” to come out. O’Lielly will be so pissed that he will inadvertantly promote the book by trying to destroy him.
April 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pmbeavercleaver,
Actually Easter is mentioned in Acts. Because it was already a Pagan holiday before the Christians put a holiday at the same time and took the Pagan rituals.
Both the rabbit and eggs are symbols of fertility. The Christians didn’t like the fact that the Pagans were running around naked and having sex.
Sound familiar? Same shit, different century.
April 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pmO’Reilly Contradicts Self on “War on Easter”…
How about we put Bill in a steel cage and have him beat himself up?…
April 14th, 2006 at 1:57 pmStandard fare from the spinmeister himself, Bill O’Reilly. Making he’ll take back FNC’s purported “War on Christmas” too. Maybe there should be a war on Bill O’Reilly?
http://www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
April 14th, 2006 at 1:57 pmIran nukes in “16 days”? hmmm…: Now on LCL
Standard fare from the spinmeister himself, Bill O’Reilly. Maybe he’ll take back FNC’s purported “War on Christmas” too. Perhaps there should be a war on Bill O’Reilly?
http://www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
April 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pmIran nukes in “16 days”? hmmm…: Now on LCL
I’m crushed…peeps aren’t mentioned in the bible?
April 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pmHey JUles let’s give a shout ou to our peeps .
April 14th, 2006 at 2:02 pmUnbelievable- I am so sure that Keith Olbermann will find out about this and shame that silly old man in public once again as he has done so. I can’t wait for Keith’s book “The Worlds Worst People in the World.†to come out. O’Lielly will be so pissed that he will inadvertantly promote the book by trying to destroy him.
Comment by JIMBO — April 14, 2006 @ 1:56 pm
My local cable carrier does not carry MSNBC, so I haven’t seen Olbermann since I left San Francisco. Miss him. Good to know he’s writing a book. Bet it will be an instant classic!
April 14th, 2006 at 2:06 pmI’m crushed…peeps aren’t mentioned in the bible?
Comment by Jules — April 14, 2006 @ 1:58 pm
Would you settle for talking donkeys and fire-breathing dragons? :)
April 14th, 2006 at 2:07 pmPapa Bear is a Flip-Flopper.
April 14th, 2006 at 2:07 pmMichdem…I try not to discriminate but I inexplicably find myself drawn to the blue ones!
April 14th, 2006 at 2:08 pmWell, it is flip-flop weather…
April 14th, 2006 at 2:11 pmFor a laugh out loud, check out today’s “The Onion - Radio News” (audio)
“People Saying ‘Happy Spring Holiday’ Just to Piss Off Bill O’Reilly”
April 14th, 2006 at 2:19 pm
i love that second shot of Bill O’Liely. It looks like he’s playing with himself and just about “there”.
April 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pmSpudge_Boy: I ,for one,appreciated your dissertation on the Apocrypha the other day.
April 14th, 2006 at 2:37 pmchristmas, easter, two “holidays” designed for commerce.
both are based on fiction, and the fiction causes the friction
since the people talking about it have no clue about it, it becomes funny
I can’t wait for the next installment!
April 14th, 2006 at 2:42 pm# 31 kindness:Yea,he looks a little pale as if the blood is leaving his cabeza.
April 14th, 2006 at 2:44 pmThis is one of the reasons why it is said liars should have good memories.
It took O’Reilly, what? two days? to deny ever having said Easter was under attack.
Sad thing is, people still watch this show even as it is painfully obvious he has lost touch with reality.
April 14th, 2006 at 2:45 pmMy eyes have been kind of tired lately…but doesn’t he look an awful lot like Elmer Fudd?
April 14th, 2006 at 2:46 pmYep!, Spudge Boy, those darn christians took all our pagan holidays and then started the burning times. Now their just gonna bomb the crap out of the world and put all dissenters in prison as soon as they are done with their wiretapping and finding out who WE are….Blesssings
April 14th, 2006 at 2:56 pmThe incident in MN is laughable. Hey O’Lily the Easter Bunny has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. No more than Santa has to do with the birth of Christ. These repubs need to grow up.
April 14th, 2006 at 3:11 pmBill O’Reilly Confused On Easter “War”…
Fox News top talk host Bill O’Reilly tied himself into pretzels, unclear on whether there was a “war” declared by the left on the Easter holiday. Following up his previous diatribes about a mythical “war” on Christmas, O’Reilly claimed that……
April 14th, 2006 at 3:23 pmIt reminds me of arguing with squishpoop. He does the same crap of bringing up an argument, and switching sides main stream and claiming ‘victory’. These psycho morons are all alike.
April 14th, 2006 at 3:26 pmMaybe’s that’s not the Easter Bunny with Santa in the picture behind Oreilly, maybe it’s Harvey! Shame on the left wingers for attacking a poor six foot invisible rabbit whose only idiosyncrasy is an alleged fondness for rumpots, crackpots and ‘how are you Mr. Wilson’ comments…
April 14th, 2006 at 3:56 pmThe left hates bunnies. I knew it!
April 14th, 2006 at 4:03 pmWe don’t refer to him as O’Liely for nothing!
April 14th, 2006 at 4:34 pm#40 - Where is Squeegy (troll-lite) anyway? I promised to flip him shit 2 days ago, and he hasn’t been around much. He’s one of my favorites because I think he might be teachable. I leave the rest of them to your tender mercies, Ryan.
April 14th, 2006 at 4:43 pmZookeeper,
Squishy isn’t teachable, because he’s one of those retards that thinks he already has the answers. He’s a lot like GeoMetro. They’re both nicer than Mighty Moron and MizzWrong - but don’t put any hope in ever reaching these braindead guys. It’s just not likely to happen.
If you want to talk to someone who has half a brain, I think that’s Tundra. He’s the only troll I’ve encountered that isn’t basically brain dead.
April 14th, 2006 at 4:51 pm#45 - Ryan, compared to you, we’re all braid dead. :-)
I’ll reserve judgment on Squeegy…
April 14th, 2006 at 5:35 pmWar on Easter?#
It reminds me of arguing with squishpoop. He does the same crap of bringing up an argument, and switching sides main stream and claiming ‘victory’. These psycho morons are all alike.
Comment by Ryan Neat — April 14, 2006 @ 3:26 pm
Its their “Assault ministry” style, rattle off a whole lotta non factual broad sweeping blame, on a word, religion, or group.
The be an Ultimate Hypocrit, as Rush Dimbulb, sitting on a non-existent higher moral ground.
Hypocrisy done wacko Neo-Con Style.
April 14th, 2006 at 6:20 pm#25 Call your cable carrier and demand MSNBC. Otherwise, satellite Tv looks good.
April 14th, 2006 at 6:26 pmOf course you can also listen to the show if you have XM Satellite Radio like me. It also repeats at midnight as well.
McCarthyism: Standard Operating Procedure
Commentary: The essence of the tactic of McCarthyism is to de-legitimize one’s opponent so as to avoid addressing the substance of his argument
By Eric Alterman
April 13, 2006
More on modern McCarthyism
Article created by the The Center for American Progress.
The essence of the tactic of McCarthyism is to de-legitimize one’s opponent so as to avoid addressing the substance of his argument. When say, Ann Coulter, accuses liberals of being “perverts,†“liars,†“felons,†“traitors,†“terrorists†and the like, the obvious goal is to make it impossible for liberals to be heard respectfully in the national political discourse. (Ironically, Coulter goes even further in this regard than her hero, McCarthy himself who, during his heyday in 1951, continued to use the term as a compliment. McCarthy accused Gen. George C. Marshall and Secretary of State Dean Acheson of being part of “a conspiracy so immense as to dwarf any previous such venture in the history of man. A conspiracy of infamy so bleak that, when it is finally exposed, its principles shall be forever deserving of the maledictions of all liberal men.”)
Coulter is a kind of well-paid circus clown, even to her ideological brethren, but her tactics, like those of Limbaugh, O’Reilly and others, tend merely to represent exaggerations of what is standard operating procedure on the political right in this country; in part, one imagines, because given their domination of the punditocracy, they are so rarely called on it. The Weekly Standard, edited by William Kristol, represents the most exalted plateau of right-wing journalism, but it too revels in the use of McCarthyism as a political tactic.
April 14th, 2006 at 6:32 pm——————————-
To Bolster my Argument above, the neo-cons have but renamed the essential political tactics of Mcarthyism as ‘Neo-Conservatism’ or ‘Assault Ministry’ blame game also comes to mind.
‘Fair and Balanced’ it is not.
Where is Squeegy (troll-lite) anyway? I promised to flip him shit 2 days ago, and he hasn’t been around much. He’s one of my favorites because I think he might be teachable. I leave the rest of them to your tender mercies, Ryan.
Comment by Zookeeper
I don’t mean to take credit for it, because this could be mere coincidence or even the culmination of many Squeegy statements that were torn down by more knowledgable posters, but he/she seems to have disappeared after I reminded him/her of how to spell Reagan. One would think that a person who admired the 40th president of the US would at least know how to spell his name.
April 14th, 2006 at 6:44 pmAnyway, let’s hope that the Easter Bunny stays out of Dickhead Cheney’s line of fire.
A Magus (plural Magi, from Latin, via Greek μάγος ; Old English: Mage; from Old Persian maguÅ¡) was a member of the Magi tribe from ancient Media, (inhabitants of Persia)[1], who were responsible for the religious and funerary practices. Later they accepted the zoroastrian religion, however, not without changing the original message of its founder, Zarathustra. They became the guardians of religion under the three persian empires. The best known Magi are the “Wise Men from the East”, in the Bible. And, of whom Marco Polo wrote that he had seen their graves in what is today the district of Saveh, in Tehran, Iran. In English, the term may refer to a shaman, sorcerer, or wizard; it is the origin of the
April 14th, 2006 at 9:53 pmEnglish words magic and magician.
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So the Bush ‘Dominionist Christians’ are bombing and destroying that which gave rise to their God, the messiah, the adept, the Vis Jesus Christ?
Why so do you “Christians” destroy your own religion in the name of your own religion? No Wonder O’rielly and Ilk are so confused. War on Christ-mas and Easter, being waged by the “Christians”
# 51:Uncle T.: Insightful.
April 15th, 2006 at 2:18 am#33
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christmas, easter, two “holidays†designed for commerce.”
Also, two holidays STOLEN from secular holidays welcoming Winter and Spring.
Christmas, was actually moved from the true date calculated as the person called Jesus’ birthdate (his last name was not Christ BTW) The true date of his birth is supposedly January 6 (”Little Christmas”) Ever hear of it. Just another of the lies that Christiandom has brought us. Stand by for more.
Winter Solstice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice
And Spring, which I am pretty sure was happening BEFORE the person called Christ came along.
Vernal Equinox SPRING
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernal_equinox
http://www.thegodmovie.com/
April 15th, 2006 at 10:32 amUm, Spudgeboy, “Easter” in the sense of the actual religious observance of Christ’s Resurrection may be mentioned in Acts, but the word CANNOT be, as the word itself derives from the Anglo-Saxon language which was unknown to any of the presumed authors of the works of the New Testament (the word itself is presumed to be derived from an Anglo-Saxon or possibly Teutonic deity of the Springtime–or fertility or rebirth–named Eostre). As for the pagan symbols (the eggs and bunnies), those haven’t been fully adopted (or subsumed) by Christianity in the same fashion as the various Winter Solstice symbols have for Christmas (admittedly, many churches do hold special activities for the children–usually just Easter egg hunts–but most Western churches don’t pay any special attention to the pagan-based “secular” Easter symbols).
April 15th, 2006 at 12:04 pmAnd, Thomas Paine, I’m not sure where you got your info about the “true” date of Christ’s birth, but most serious New Testament scholars largely agree the true date is most likely sometime during Spring (and some early Church traditions placed His Birth shortly after the Vernal Equinox) but the Church felt it easier to move the Nativity to coincide with the Winter Solstice since the Passion narrative was too closely connected with the Passover for what the Church felt was the most important aspect of Christ’s Life to be moved. (The early Church, in fact, considered His Birth to be of little importance to the faithful compared to His Resurrection; the events of the Passion are believed to have been honored during the First Century CE while “Christmas” wasn’t generally observed until the latter part of the Second Century or early part of the Third Century CE.) The presumption for a Springtime Birth comes from the realities of modern sheepherding and tending in the Levant; December is not a time when “shepherds keep watch over their flocks by night” as the weather is not amenable to shepherding.
The importance of January 6 in the Christian calendar has nothing to do with His Birth, but rather is recognized as the date when the Magi visited the Infant Christ (tellingly, the date is known as “The Day of the Three Kings” in many Romance-language nations); also, some Eastern traditions consider it to be the date that Christ was baptized (which, of course, was as an adult and would have absolutely nothing to do with His Birth). The date is best recognized among English-speakers as the “12th Day” in the well-known Christmas song, “The Twelve Days of Christmas” (even though *most* English-speakers are under the mistaken notion that Dec 25 is the 12th day; actually, Dec 26 is the First Day of Christmas–Christmas Day itself doesn’t factor into the song).
You are correct about the hijacking of the Winter Solstice (as well as other celebrations held at the same period, such as the Roman Saturnalia) for Christmas, and the point that the Vernal Equinox took place long before Christ’s appearance, but (and, meaning no disrespect to Christians) the very existence of Christ is a case of “johnny-come-lately”. The Nativity tale is a very traditional story among several pre-Christian Mediterranean and Middle Eastern cultures (the tale of Mithras, for instance–Mithras was a very popular cult, especially among Roman soldiers, for roughly a century before the Nativity’s presumed date and remained popular in Palestine, Syria and Mesopotamia well into the early 2nd Century CE). The Crucifixion and Resurrection are incredibly old-hat in the region (going back as far as the Osiris tale in Egyptian mythology, but was also paralleled by the legends of Balder in Teutonic and Norse mythology; even the pre-Columbian Native Americans had death-and-rebirth myths which obviously developed independently of any Christian connections). Some Biblical scholars even note very strong parallels between the stories of Moses and Christ (specifically, in a King’s orders that all males of a specific age be slaughtered; but also, the fact that both spent time before they were “called” to their destinies and the reverse parallel regarding Egypt, where Moses fled from Egypt to save his life while Christ fled to Egypt to save His–there are others, but these most immediately come to mind).
“What a silly, silly man. He’s just trying to get attention. Since no one is watching his show anymore… ”
Comment by unbelievable — April 14, 2006 @ 1:23 pm
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Ignorance personified. The O’Reilly Factor is the highest rated cable show in the nation. You can’t liberal spin it, Kumyaba sing it, or do the standardized group hug “can’t we all just get along” BS, nor does staring into the blue fart cloud of liberalism give you the answer. The O’Reilly Factor grows stronger each rating period, and there is no way to spin this fact.
April 15th, 2006 at 1:58 pmIgnorance personified. The O’Reilly Factor is the highest rated cable show in the nation. You can’t liberal spin it, Kumyaba sing it, or do the standardized group hug “can’t we all just get along†BS, nor does staring into the blue fart cloud of liberalism give you the answer. The O’Reilly Factor grows stronger each rating period, and there is no way to spin this fact.
Comment by Grouper — April 15, 2006 @ 1:58 pm
You obviously don’t get out much. His ratings have been declining. No matter how much you pray or lie to yourself, like just about everything your religion and Republican Party have been doing to damage this country. Go back to using your head as a door stop. It was more effective there.
April 15th, 2006 at 3:28 pmYour condescending arrogance is very apparent. Firstly, I have no religious preference, so your comment is simply more liberal blather about what you wish it to be versus the reality. Your Republican Party comment is more laughable, as I am a certified and registered Independent, so again, the fecal content of your posting is more wishful thinking versus factual representation.
Damage to this country? For your information, I was defending this country long before you had the opportunity to express your distasteful opinion, or becomes a glob in a sperm count. My honorable service to this country was exemplified by Duty, Honor, and Country, and if I were physically able, I would be serving her again.
The number of seditious liberals in this country is truly shameful, and when it comes to defending this nation, the majority of citizens realize they cannot trust a liberal with national defense. Your ilk continually blusters about nonsensical and unworkable solutions such as “defining root causes”, and “understanding the enemies rage.”
As we demonstrated in WWII, just kill the sons-of-bitches and let God sort it all out later. Thankfully, the nation doesn’t have to depend on a person such as yourself and others in your shameful mold. Pussies one and all!
April 15th, 2006 at 3:52 pmSo EL [Thoht] had a Tan and Noel [Khrist Kringle] Didn’t =)
April 15th, 2006 at 5:20 pmYour a Liberal Grouper, so is Bush and those Other Chicken Hawks YOU voted for.
The Senate is more corrupt than it has been in quite a while since the ‘Righteous’ started buying thrm off, Your Righteous Bush ‘Noble lies’ have killed Americas Sons in ‘Gods’ name? How so did Your ‘GOD’ tell you to Kill? Delay called you Wackos, not me. The Delay Types say that you “christians are stupid and will believe anything. Thats your neo-cons bragging about how they duped you. Bush is a Ivey League Liberal from way back when, the name ‘conservative’ is but a political tool for the HEGELIAN Neo-Con liars.
Neo-Cons are from past likes such as Jean Kirkpatrick, whom flipped parties.
April 15th, 2006 at 5:37 pmGrouper the ‘Liberal’ DUPE!
Congratulations, this is by far the most idiotic and least understandable post ever encountered on the Internet. It is best to let other’s imagine your foolishness than to opine and confirm their suspicions.
You have managed in one paragraph to both acknowledge and avow your inability to comprehend and state in a clear and concise manner your thoughts. Maybe Prozac would be in order to correct your thought process.
April 15th, 2006 at 5:54 pmYour a Fool Grouper. Is that simple enough for your imbalanced convoluted mind to interpolate?
April 15th, 2006 at 6:01 pmTo all on this thread: I am also what everyone is calling “liberal”, “leftie”, etc. However, I am also Christian. I would like to express to you all that not all Christians are the type seemingly at the brunt of the exchange here. A professing Christian should hold to some of the values extolled by our Lord Jesus. However, I fail to see any coming from this administration, or from Republican leadersip. Rather what theire example has been is lies, graft, and corruption. Jesus was an advocate for the poor. Bush and the republicans act as enemies of the poor, and their agenda seems self-serving and supportive only of corporatists and big money in whose interests is to keep down the poor and middle class. So please keep in mind, all Christians are not the Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson types, who, to myself, suffer from a gigantic lack of credibility. But there are many, like me, who pray for our great nation to be extricated from this dilemna we all share together. Remember, Jesus was a liberal too. And to Spudge boy, Sharon Cox, unbelievable, and Ryan Neat. God bless you and keep up the good work. You are truly helping to open some eyes.
April 15th, 2006 at 6:06 pmChristians are not the Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson types,
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I understand AL. The Dominionists are the Falwell, Robertson, Rushdoonies. The Neo-Cons, such as Wolfowitz, Feith, Perle, follow a Hegelian Ideology where a societies religion is used as a means of control. Wolfowitz is a Straussian. Often the Straussians are called Lie-o-cons becasue they lie with intent. Grouper doesn’t seem to understand ‘Hegelian’
That means watch this hand over here Grouper I am performing a magic trick, mean while I kick you in the Nads cause you aint looking.
April 15th, 2006 at 6:15 pmThats Hegelian Neo-Cons. Liars.
Comment by Grouper — April 15, 2006 @ 3:52 pm
You are clearly retarded, and as a general rule, I don’t argue with severly brain damaged megalomanics. Go change your diaper. It’s stinking up the room.
April 15th, 2006 at 6:29 pmThe GOD Loop the Loop.
Hes Canaan, Hes Egytpian, Hes Hebrew, Hes Jewish, He’s Thoht, hes Moses, hes EL, hes NoEL, Hes Adom, No Hes Adonai, No Hes EDOM, No Esau, no its A-TOM, Wait the Bible Says John 1;1, AETZI, but Hes Medea, No Hes Magi, no Hes magyar, is not hes OGhuzz, no hes Ghu. Christ, no its Christo, no its not ITS Khristo. Khagan, The AZAR King, The AZARS, but it was AEETE,
No Twas Zeus..No it was Brahma! No Heir Khrist!. Krishna Damnit!! COWS, BAAL , RAMS, no Snakes, Tulum, he was Mayan Mayatraya! the Arc is underground, no its on the mountain, no its hidden, no its the universe, no its the mothers womb, the grail, the ankh, the arkh,
Generic Names for God:
Elohim. Occurring about twenty-five hundred times in the OT, Elohim is one of three common generic names for deity in the OT. The term is plural and on occasion means ‘gods’ (e.g., Exod. 20:3), but most often it is a plural of majesty for Israel’s ‘God’ (e.g., Gen. 1:1). Unlike the term El, Elohim is not found in other Semitic languages. While originally possessing polytheistic associations, Israelite theologians transformed the meaning of the term and used it to refer to God. While the name was used in most traditions, periods, and regions, it was especially favored in Northern Israel.
Eloah. The second generic name for deity in the OT is Eloah (Heb., ‘God’), though it is found only fifty-seven times, the great majority of which occur in Job. The poet of Job may have used this generic word for God to avoid the specific Israelite conceptions of covenant and salvation history associated with the name Yahweh. Job, a part of wisdom literature, prefers to speak of the universal dominion of creation theology.
El. Occurring more than two hundred times in the OT (including compounds), El (Heb., ‘god’) is the common Semitic name for deity in ancient Near Eastern cultures. Every divine being was properly designated by this generic name. El is also the name of the head of the pantheon of Ugarit, however. As creator and father of the gods, El possessed the authority of the divine decree that ordered the world of gods and humans. Polytheism and the worship of El were major components of both Canaanite and Israel’s ancestral religions. In the settlement of Canaan, the tribes of Israel began to assimilate Canaanite religious centers and associate those religious traditions with Yahweh, the one who liberated them from Egypt.
El Shaddai. According to P (Exod. 6:3), El Shaddai (Heb., ‘God, the One of the Mountain[s]’) was worshiped by the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. In the mythologies of the ancient Near East, gods often resided on a cosmic mountain that was the center of the earth. Shaddai came to be identified with El, the head of the Canaanite pantheon, and then with Yahweh (Exod. 6:3; Ezek. 1:24). The lxx translated Shaddai ‘Almighty.’ Thus many English Bibles translate El Shaddai as ‘God Almighty.’
El Elyon. El Elyon (Heb., ‘God Most High’), originally a compound for the high god El, was worshiped in Jerusalem before David’s conquest (ca. 1000 b.c.). In Genesis 14, Melchizedek is the priest-king of Jerusalem who blesses Abraham in the name of ‘God Most High, Maker of Heaven and Earth,’ the ‘God who gave Abraham’s enemies into his power. In J’s rendition of this story, El Elyon is identified with Yahweh. After the Israelite takeover of Jerusalem, the El Elyon tradition is associated with Yahweh (Ps. 47:2-3).
El Olam. El Olam (Heb., ‘God of Eternity’) was the Canaanite god of Beersheba. After this religious center was incorporated into Israelite religion, the title came to designate Yahweh (Gen. 21:33).
El Berith. El Berith (Heb., ‘God of the Covenant’) was the Canaanite god of Shechem (Judg. 9:46). In Joshua 24 the Deuteronomic historians placed the covenant renewal ceremony at Shechem following the conquest of Canaan. In the D history the covenant became the basis for the tribal league during the period of the Judges (eleventh century b.c.).
El Roi. El Roi (Heb., ‘The God of Seeing/Divination’) was a localized deity of a sacred spring (Beer-la-hai-roi) whose water sustained Hagar in the desert and inspired her to see a divine vision (Gen. 16:13-14). J connects this story with Yahweh, who promises Hagar a son (Ishmael) who will have many descendants.
In summary, the local Canaanite gods and El, the head of the pantheon, were worshiped in sanctuaries eventually taken over by Israel. Canaanite religious traditions were eventually applied to Yahweh. In this theological process, Yahweh, the God of liberation from Egyptian slavery, merged with Canaanite gods, including the high god El, who legitimated a stratified social system of city-states ruled by local dynasts. This combination provided the critical tension that characterized Israelite religious expression throughout the OT.
Social Titles for God: The changing social constructions of Israel also provided important titles for God.
Adonai. Adonai (Heb., ‘My Great Lord’) is a plural of majesty derived from the singular Adon (Heb., ‘lord’), a title of respect used to address a social superior (e.g., king, husband, slave owner). In the postexilic period, Adonai came to replace the name Yahweh in common worship because of the increasing sanctity associated with the latter name (e.g., Job 28:28).
Baal. Baal (Heb., ‘lord’) is a title designating a social superior (e.g., leader, owner, husband). In Canaanite religion, Baal is the name of the storm god of fertility who brought rain and military victory. This god rivaled Yahweh for Israel’s devotion, as especially noted in prophetic literature (e.g., Hosea). While certain theomorphic names may indicate that some Israelites identified Baal with Yahweh (e.g., Meribbaal, the son of Jonathan), the term was generally avoided because of strong pagan associations (cf. Hos. 2:16-17).
Royal Titles. The political matrix of Israel and other ancient Near Eastern cultures provided a host of titles and images for God. Among the more important are royal titles: king (Ps. 95:3), judge (Gen. 18:25), and shepherd (Ps. 23). These titles signified God’s position and function as ruler over Israel.
Family Titles. Other important titles derived from the Israelite family, including father (Deut. 32:6), brother (Ahijah: Heb., ‘brother of Yahweh,’ 1 Sam. 14:3), kinsman (‘kinsman [fear] of Isaac,’ Gen. 31:42), and redeemer (Ps. 19:14). These titles may have originated in patriarchal religion where the personal deity of the head of the clan became the protector of the group (‘The God of My Father,’ Exod. 3:6). The ‘redeemer’ was the next of kin responsible for delivering the relative from hard times (Lev. 25:25). While God is not explicitly called ‘mother’ or ‘sister,’ the OT does use female images to speak of God. God is depicted as mother who conceives, bears, and gives birth to Israel (Num. 11:12; Deut. 32:18) and as midwife (Ps. 22:9-10). These images demonstrate that the OT does not limit and confine God to the masculine gender
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Basically people have been at War, of one form or another, for what appears to be the same ‘GOD’ for thousands of years Now.
Intelligent Beings my ASS.
April 15th, 2006 at 10:23 pmBasically people have been at War, of one form or another, for what appears to be the same ‘GOD’ for thousands of years Now.
Intelligent Beings my ASS.
Comment by Uncle Togarma — April 15, 2006 @ 10:23 pm
Well said Uncle!
April 15th, 2006 at 10:38 pm#56 Grouper,
It appears someone took the time to check into O’Reilly’s claims of how many viewers he gets, and it seems that Mr. O’Reilly is not being accurate. (Now there’s a surprise!)
http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/politics/cablenewsratings.htm
And as an atheist, registered Independent voter and five-year veteran of the US Air Force, I agree with what unbelievable said in the prior post. Do yourself a favor and stop believing ANYTHING O’Reilly says, because more often than not, he’s full of shit. And the people you clearly support in power are ruining what this country is all about. You want to serve your country again despite your physical inability? Write to your Representative and demand he or she support impeaching both the President and Vice President. To continue to supprt either of them is to spit on the Constitution we both took an oath to support and defend. President Bush and Vice President Cheney (who once shot a 78-year-old man in the face) are enemies of that Constitution.
April 15th, 2006 at 11:49 pmTo continue to supprt either of them is to spit on the Constitution we both took an oath to support and defend. President Bush and Vice President Cheney (who once shot a 78-year-old man in the face) are enemies of that Constitution.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — April 15, 2006 @ 11:49 pm
Well said Wayne! I think there’s little that’s more sobering to one vet than the logical words of another. Hopefully this one is no expection and he’ll hear you.
April 16th, 2006 at 7:19 amI love pagan holidays, especially when they are about sun gods and romans screwin each other on december 25th.
April 16th, 2006 at 10:38 pmOK, OK Lets be fair here. It’s not really a suprise that Bill blew this one. I mean come on when you have you your head so far up you rear end, who has time to check facts or even what you said 5 days ago.
April 17th, 2006 at 11:55 amI have somthing to say to all the Demacreaps on this site. I kept hearing you say that there is no war on Christmass. Last year 24 Jewish Demacrate members of congress voted to ban Christmass from being a holyday.
April 18th, 2006 at 9:18 pmthis is a very good article, “Fundamentalism and the Modern World”.
I was thinking as I was listening to Karen Armstrong on public radio, that we need a big dose of “bring it on” as far as religious debate goes in this country. Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, do not speak for all Christians. In fact, I would argue that they are not Christian-like themselves by their daily actions and how they speak ill of others. They want to be Superior. They want their dogma. If that ain’t anti-Christian.
And O’Reilly has to cut this baloney out.
April 23rd, 2006 at 4:45 pmI reported to the DOJ our daughter was killed by the “Mormon Mafia” and they didn’t do anything about it.
May 11th, 2006 at 11:38 pmAll these silly law suits about religion tend to make people think that there is an attack on religious holidays and/or religion itself. For example, nativity scenes, ten commandments, “One Nation Under God”, “In God We Trust”, Easter, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays… and so on. What would anybody think? Its a sad world! Every little thing has to be politically correct. I only wish things would get better in the world today, but sadly enough things will only get worse.
November 3rd, 2006 at 5:48 pm[…] As sure as April showers bring May flowers, so too does Fox News every year around this time announce that there is “a War on Easter.” Last year, Bill O’Reilly suggested the Easter bunny was “under attack.” After embarrassing himself and his colleagues, O’Reilly eventually acknowledged, “There is no attack on Easter.” […]
March 7th, 2007 at 7:35 pm