Retired generals targeting Rumsfeld
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Scratch one more excuse off the list for quiet, intrusive intelligence gathering.
April 14th, 2006 at 10:48 pmGodd googly moogly, does Fox News use the passive/aggressive question mark on EVERY freakin’ headline? I think lack of protective body armor and properly armored vehicles is a helluva lot more damaging to the physical as well as psychological health of the troops.
April 14th, 2006 at 10:56 pmMorale ouch
Nearly 2,400 dead and how many seriously wounded? Dying hurts a bit more i would imagine than a few words from retired generals.
The troops would be on the ground and know what is going on in reality Not the fantasy that is invented from either side at the top level.
April 14th, 2006 at 11:03 pmWhat doesn’t hurt morale is the quick war, the lack of rose petals, the nothankfull populace, the lack of WMD’s, no prior link to OBL!
April 14th, 2006 at 11:09 pmMe thinks that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld have more damaged to troop morale then Saddam, al Qaeda, the Taliban and Osama combined.
April 14th, 2006 at 11:13 pmI would think the lies and deceptions of the Comander in Chief would hurt moral more than some honest dissent.
April 14th, 2006 at 11:44 pmDo you know what would raise morale? Having a date when the troops would come home!!!
April 14th, 2006 at 11:50 pmI have a small suspection that many more of the troops have said Rummy was a moron than the six generals seeing that most troops do not have a high regard for “desk jockeys” or REMFs as they are known on the front lines.
REMFs stands for rear echalon mutherfvckers of which Rummy is #2 on the list…….
The generals ALSO CAN NOT “HURT” MORAL IF WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS CONSISTANT WITH WHAT THE TROOPS ON THE GROUND SEE. In that case by speaking out they actually would be helping moral because the troops would see that somebody does actually care about them and see the problems and insanity they do.
April 14th, 2006 at 11:56 pmRemember the Fox headline: Do conservatives treat albinos better than liberals?
That was a classic.
But this whole “are the generals anti-american?” is pretty good too.
April 15th, 2006 at 12:35 amObviously, then, those retired generals are with the terrorists. Time to dust off the old Sedition Act. After all, it was good enough for our founding fathers, so it should be good enough for us.
And, lest we forget, we can also follow the example of that first great Republican President, Abraham Lincoln:
Remember, this is WAR! And President Bush is a WAR-TIME PRESIDENT! And WAR-TIME PRESIDENTS have the inherent POWER as COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF to order the suspension of civil liberties and Constitutional Rights of any American in the name of Democracy, Liberty, Freedom and Justice for All.
The really frightening thing is, there are those who would agree whole-heartedly with the above comments….
April 15th, 2006 at 1:12 amIt ain’t just the generals;
The relevant paragraphs from his article,
I returned disillusioned by what I saw. I participated in the second battle of Fallujah in November 2004. We crushed the insurgents in the city, but we only ended up scattering them throughout the province. The dumb ones stayed and died. The smart ones left town before the battle, to garner more recruits and fight another day. We were simply the little Dutch boy with our finger in the dike. In retrospect, we never had enough troops to firmly control the region; we had just enough to maintain a tenuous equilibrium.
I now know I wrongfully placed my faith and trust in a presidential administration hopelessly mired in incompetence, hubris and a lack of accountability. It planned a war based on false intelligence and unrealistic assumptions. It has strategically surrendered the condition of victory in Iraq to people who do not share our vision, values or interests. The Bush administration has proven successful at only one thing in Iraq — painting us into a corner with no feasible exit.
I will never trust any of them again.
April 15th, 2006 at 1:16 amThe link, don’t know why it didn’t make it,
Coming home — disillusioned
By Christopher H. Sheppard
April 15th, 2006 at 1:19 amSomebody better throw some red meat to the Republicans, they have begun to eat themselves.
Bon apetite’.
-GSD
April 15th, 2006 at 1:23 amall these generals coming out and speaking what should have been said long ago is a HUGE boost to our moral. seriously.
April 15th, 2006 at 5:36 am6 Generals bashing Rummy for mismanaging the illegal invasion and occupation of a sovereign, defenseless country:
Priceless!
April 15th, 2006 at 6:33 amA handful of retired generals out of thousands are critical of the war and they make headlines. But the MSM does not mention the other thousands. Hmmmm.
And you libs are critical of the MSM? This criticism seems to many to be a smokescreen.
April 15th, 2006 at 7:55 amOh troll, my troll, what senseless blathering!
April 15th, 2006 at 9:34 amTroll,
name two.
April 15th, 2006 at 9:43 amListening to Rush Limbaugh on the Military Radio Services has been proven to, scientifically and factually, that Chicken Hawks are not good for Troop Morale. That Chicken Hawks Being the Neo-Cons. Rush is of course a Proven Chickenhawk and a Neo-Con. Like Bush. Bush Has now been Proven to Hurt Troops Morale because he, and this is FACT, is a ChickenHawk.
The Other FACT is that When Bush put up that, Mission Accomplished’ sign, well Troops thought they might be going home soon. Troop Morale has thus been Proven to be Bush’s Fault Again. Dick Cheney himself is a Chicken Hawk, Troops don’t have Good morale when a Chicken Hawk Trys to tell them what to do?
See the Problem is Pundits and ChickenHawks, err the Neo-Cons and their Pundit Spawn Hurt Troop Morale. Its not the ‘Liberals’..No, who cares what the Liberals say? Its the ChickenHawks,
April 15th, 2006 at 10:02 amThe Troops hate Bush Mcnamaras!
Troll you are a Sad little Dominionist. Jeez Man, stand on yer own two feet you little falwellian wacko.
April 15th, 2006 at 10:04 amRemember when Rummy took a swipe at Maureen Dowd last month? Well, today, MoDo gets her revenge.
April 15th, 2006 at 10:15 amDear Troll, anyone with a thinking mind know’s Rumsfeld is a lier and a chicken hawk. Look at his scrawney lily white hands he waves areound during his next speal. What you can’t see is all the blood on them from all his evil dealings in the past and now in the present. This entire administration needs to be thrown out of office for war crimes against Iraq and the American people. Learn, read and listen. If you would listen, even the Col. that was paraded with Rumsfeld in the news yesterday didn’t say he backed Rummy. What he did say was silence was the military code. Get it.? He wanted to keep his retirement and service pay and not get swift boated and outed. Wait till he retires, bet he will have lot’s to say……..Impeach now…
April 15th, 2006 at 10:47 amClif & Coming Home Disillusioned; I’m sorry that you’ve finally figured it out the hard way. I came to the same conclusion waaaaaaaaay back during Vietnam.
April 15th, 2006 at 10:47 amIt’s amazing just how low an opinion the rightwing spinners have of the troops. They’d have us believe that they’re all emotionally needy people with fragile egos, sitting around watching CNN for praise. How demeaning is that?
This morale argument is such obvious BS.
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April 15th, 2006 at 1:52 pmhttp://griperblade.blogspot.com – grumblings from the heartland
Sharon,
April 15th, 2006 at 6:10 pmAnyone with a thinking mind knows they are all full o shite Democrat or Republican alike. Rummy is a dirtbbag and so was Clinton and half his cabinet.
And half the Dems and Repubs in congress as well.
April 15th, 2006 at 11:21 pmIt’s so simple. Whatever is bad for the Republican administration is bad for troop morale. Can I say it any clearer!
April 16th, 2006 at 12:07 amRummy is a dirtbbag
Comment by troll — April 15, 2006 @ 6:10 pm
And yet, here you are, defending him against his critics and implying the media is against him for no good reason.
April 16th, 2006 at 2:27 amTHERE are over 4000 retired Generals in the U.S. by my count thats over 3994 that back BUSH hahahahahahahaha. you are all a bunch of loons
April 16th, 2006 at 8:45 amMake that 3993, another one just stood up to be counted……No more Bush wars, impeach this administration and vote out all the enabelers…….Blessings
April 16th, 2006 at 10:20 am# 30 Paul R.: Just because the 3993 hav n’t spoken;what makes you think they support Bush?Clown.
April 16th, 2006 at 10:35 amThe truth ALWAYS hurts, but not as much as the layers and layers of lies that parade as truth.
So, #30, where can I go to see or read about the “over 3994 retired generals that back Bush”? That’s a lot of retired generals that feel that way about our president. Surely they have a website or talk-show? Why havent’ we heard anything from them???
Methinks you’re grabbing at straws! Just like the over 90 million eligible voting-age adults that didn’t show up for the 2004 presidential election, it looks like they’re vote doesn’t count, right? Unless they SPEAK OUT.
April 16th, 2006 at 1:43 pm#33 That number was a quote from Rummy in his last speal, I think on Friday. I hate watching all these lieing scum bags, but, do to learn their next evil deed. Think oppiset and know what they are realy doing. Looks like the maniac in charge has had Iran and Syria on the distruction table since 2004 or earlier. My bet is wacko will let Israel do it and jump in…..Sad and shameful……….Blessings
April 16th, 2006 at 4:04 pm