60 Minutes: CIA Official Reveals Bush, Cheney, Rice Were Personally Told Iraq Had No WMD in Fall 2002
60 Minutes: CIA Official Reveals Bush, Cheney, Rice Were Personally Told Iraq Had No WMD in Fall 2002
Tonight on 60 Minutes, Tyler Drumheller, the former chief of the CIA’s Europe division, revealed that in the fall of 2002, President Bush, Vice President Cheney, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and others were told by CIA Director George Tenet that Iraq’s foreign minister — who agreed to act as a spy for the United States — had reported that Iraq had no active weapons of mass destruction program. Watch it:
BRADLEY: According to Drumheller, CIA Director George Tenet delivered the news about the Iraqi foreign minister at a high level meeting at the White House.
DRUMHELLER: The President, the Vice President, Dr. Rice…
BRADLEY: And at that meeting…?
DRUMHELLER: They were enthusiastic because they said they were excited that we had a high-level penetration of Iraqis.
BRADLEY: And what did this high level source tell you?
DRUMHELLER: He told us that they had no active weapons of mass destruction program.
BRADLEY: So, in the fall of 2002, before going to war, we had it on good authority from a source within Saddam’s inner circle that he didn’t have an active program for weapons of mass destruction?
DRUMHELLER: Yes.
BRADLEY: There’s no doubt in your mind about that?
DRUMHELLER: No doubt in my mind at all.
BRADLEY: It directly contradicts, though, what the President and his staff were telling us.
DRUMHELLER: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming, and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy, to justify the policy.
Read the full transcript HERE.
UPDATE: More at CBS News.
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What absolute Bastahds! I wrote a piece on the Real Military (IOW - Enlisted Military)’s take on Don Rumsfeld if anyone’s interested. I spent much of last week with dozens of friends on active duty who’ve recently returned from Iraq and Afghanistan tours.
Have a look. Troops love the smell of fresh Bullshit in the morning…
-Nate
April 23rd, 2006 at 8:30 pmNow this is the CBS of ‘Good Night and Good Luck’ legend! It was an excellent piece that connected all of the dots. If this isn’t the final nail in Bush’s coffin, then I really don’t know what will be.
April 23rd, 2006 at 8:34 pmEven my self-professed “Hardcore Republican” friends who are currently serving active duty–several of whom recently returned from one or more tour(s) of duty in either Iraq and/or Afghanistan–spit scorn and drip contempt in every conversation where this assholes’ name is mentioned. References to him always involve colorful language and often include interesting scenarios consisting primarily of some quality “alone” time in a locked room with him.
Nate, I gotta think no one really wants to piss of the military… and yet the three stooges in Washington don’t seem to care at all. Good to hear the soldiers aren’t falling for their lies anymore either. We’re gonna need them on our side when Bush tried to declare a police state next year.
April 23rd, 2006 at 8:37 pmCan we impeach them all now? PLEASE.
These A-Clowns have given terrorists a reason to hate us: We invaded for a bogus reason. The least we can do is show the iraq government that in a democracy we hold our leaders responsible for their actions. But no. Not with this republican congress. They don’t give a shit about what are actions show the world.
April 23rd, 2006 at 8:38 pmAs great as this is, some other kind of breaking news story will find its way to dominate tomorrow’s major networks, maybe some ivy league chess team will be accused of drug running to keep an underground monopoly on college gambling and prostitution.
April 23rd, 2006 at 8:42 pmOne subpoena. Just give me one subpoena.
April 23rd, 2006 at 8:42 pmThey don’t give a shit about what are actions show the world.
Comment by Colorado Jyms — April 23, 2006 @ 8:38 pm
Because we’ve let them get away with it, and I won’t be surprised in November if they keep their jobs. Things are bad, but not yet bad enough for some to start a Revolution of ballots.
April 23rd, 2006 at 8:43 pmLet the coup d’etat begin…
April 23rd, 2006 at 8:52 pmComment by unbelievable — April 23, 2006 @ 8:37 pm
Thanks for the read unbelievable… I was actually surprised by the level of vitriol coming from these guys. So many of them were so Gung Ho about heading to Iraq just two short years ago. Their morale was extremely high and for the most part, they had great faith in Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld.
Man the vehemence and venom that laced their conversations about these guys was startling. I’ll be if there was a way to do a true poll of active duty military about this administration… The results would stun a stampeding hoarde of neocons into silence and stillness.
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:00 pmThis interview on CBS with Bradely and Drumheller was well done and could be easily followed so that even the dullest of the 33% that still support the DOLT in the White house could follow it. Bush got away with his ineptness and incompetence prior to and on 9/11. He followed that with his inability to capture bin Laden. He then lied as indicated in the interview about yellow cake and WMDs, resulting in a preemptive invasion of a country that did us no harm but was a target of the PNAC. The lie has escalated into the killing field and money pit of Iraq. The American people are aiding and abetting malfeasance and misfeasance in the highest office in the land each day he is in office. Three(3)more years remain in his term to continue the mischief. His arrogance, cockiness and incompetence are more than a person can endure. The mischief borders on the criminal.
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:07 pmNova,you were rolling along nicely until you got to the part about the American people aiding and abetting. Setting aside the likelihood you are a part of that noble body politic,the only aiding and abetting being done is that associated with having to live with the consequences as well as the benefits of the republic in which we live. Your arrogance,cockiness and incompetence in the accusations you hurl so carelessly is shocking. Too bad because you had every other trite phrasing from the codebook neatly arranged.
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:16 pmAs interesting as it is, you can’t bring down a Faith Based administration with facts. I’m sure Rove has faxed Rumball, O’Really, etc with talking points to question the CIA guy’s character. Hell, they’re experts at it. A million former CIA agents can claim this and Bush will just keep on grinin’
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:17 pmNah, SLAB, not a chess club. They’ll use the old standby. Release another Bin Laden tape!:
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:19 pmIt’s hard not to be a conspiracy theorist these days when the conspiracy theory fits so easily into reality.
Drumheller will be smeared soon, GOP talking points on the way!
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:25 pmIf I may say, this is confusing. If Tenent told the administration that there was no active WMD program in Iraq, does this not contradict his claim that the reason to go to war in Iraq was because the intelligence connected to Iraq was a “slam dunk”? Which one of Tenent’s assertions is to be believed?
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:27 pmI submit that as a member State of the United Nations we are bound by its Charter.
I submit that to initiate a war of aggression for regime change violates Article 2, Section 4 of the United Nations Charter.
In the past, I have asked I-Right-I and Mighty Aphrodite (who claims to be an attorney) to make their case justifying Bush’s war, citing relevant international treaties, charters and conventions. So far, they have refused to do so.
I present the above documents to demonstrate why I think Bush’s war constitutes an international war crime.
Can anyone present a reasoned counter-argument?
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:27 pmSee Josh Marshall for details of his conversation with Drumheller regarding the 60-Minutes interview.
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:30 pmBush does not CARE about ANY laws, this is what will bring him down.
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:33 pmAll those who believed and supported Bush on going to war in Iraq should take a line from a Toby Keith song ” How Do You Like Me Now?” and answer the question.
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:35 pmTJM-The benefits that I enjoy in no way are associated with the failed policies and programs of the inept administraton and the corrupt republicans in congress. As a matter of fact most Americans have come to realize that they have been duped and deceived by this administration and have no confidence in it and know that this country has been and continues to go in the wrong direction. Anyone who supports this duplicitous cabal in Washington is either delusional or looking for profit. Which one are you?
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:35 pmAnother smoking gun. How many more do we need before we as patriotic American’s gather at the gates of the White House and demand that these criminals step down and be prosicuted for their crimes?
Join the march in New York for Peace April 29.
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:39 pmIn a way, Nova is right. The American people re-elected Bush. He received some 62 million votes.
In a way, every day we go to work, come home, watch tv, we aid and abet this Administration. Every day we do not take to the streets and demand accountability and an end to the bloodshed, we aid and abet this Administration. Our silence is our acquiesence. The Administration is counting on us to be complacent.
Could you imagine the impact if, for just one day, every man, woman and child in America took to the streets to protest this war?
Yea, I agree with Nova…the American people are aiding and abetting this Administration.
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:43 pmWatch these sick fks roll out the “Swift Boat” team on this brave American. Guy deserves the Citizen’s Medal of Freedom.
The Sht is far too deep now for Bush Jr though.. I fear he will attack Iraq in some desperate moment of madness trying to regain his lost glory. Chimp’s gonna start WWIII and set the world on fire.
90 to 33% in the polls and falling like a rock — an olympic skier wouldn’t go down that slope.
What did we ever do to deserve these azzholes.
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:47 pm24 - we voted for them…or at least a substantial number of us did.
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:54 pmThis is old news. The world is going to care now that it’s on TV? How Reaganesque!
April 23rd, 2006 at 9:56 pmNow it explains why the Osama tape was released this morning. I hope that people remember that next Saturday there is a march in New York.
The students at Standord stopped the president.
Dissent is Patriotic!
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:00 pmI believe the key word to focus on here is criminal
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:00 pmIs this the integrity Bush said he was going to bring?
Will we see accountability?
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:01 pm#2 I agree. This is what CBS News was supposed to be about. 60 Minutes is the only part of CBS news left that’s worth trusting. Edward R. Murrow would be proud that at least, there is a journalist that can expose the truth on politcal corruption and that he can still get the truth from someone who truly knows.
Maybe Katie can take some lessons from Ed Bradley on how to ask tough questions.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:02 pm“Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear — kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervour — with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not rally behind it.â€
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:03 pm~ Douglas MacArthur, 1957, WW II general
“Sometimes when I sleep at night I think of ‘Hop on Pop’.â€
~ George W. Bush, speaking on educating children, 2002-04-02
“I believe that, as quickly as possible, young cows ought to be allowed go across our border.â€
~ George W. Bush, Ottawa, 2004-11-30
“The idea of putting subliminable messages into ads is ridiculous.â€
~ George W. Bush
“I don’t think we need to be subliminable about the differences between our views on prescription drugs.â€
~ George W. Bush
Orlando Florida, 2000-09-12
“Lacerates ran down my cheeks.â€
~ George W. Bush (trying to sound grand with a Thesaurus on an Andover essay).
“Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?â€
~ George W. Bush
“Sometimes when I sleep at night I think of ’Hop on Pop’.â€
~ George W. Bush
“In 1994, there were 67 schools in Texas that were rated exemplorary [sic] according to our own tests.â€
~ George W. Bush
“The question is, how many hands have I shaked.â€
~ George W. Bush
“What is [sic] your ambitions?â€
~ George W. Bush
speaking at the Parkview Arts and Science Magnet School Source: Federal News Service, Remarks by President George W. Bush at a Back-to-School Event, 2002-08-29
“The California crunch really is the result of not enough power to power the power of generating plants.â€
~ George W. Bush, 2000-09-15
“Will the highways on the Internet become more few?â€
~ George W. Bush
“And out of the evil done to America is going to come a more peaceful world, and a more better America…â€
~ George W. Bush
Source: FDCH Political Transcripts, George W. Bush Participates in Welcome Ceremony, 2002-10-22
“Do you have blacks, too?â€
~ George W. Bush
speaking to Brazilian President Fernando Henrique Cardoso. Source: Reported 2002-04-28 by columnist Fernando Pedreira (and friend of the Brazilian president) of the Estado Sao Paulo in an article titled An Overwhelming Ignorance. Also cited by The Washington Post and der Spiegel, 2001-11-08
“I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family.â€
~ George W. Bush
“We ought to make the pie higher.â€
~ George W. Bush
“Some communities, you say, ‘Hey, American dream,’ and they go, ‘What does that mean?’â€
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:06 pm~ George W. Bush
If Bush got 62 million votes, I’m St. Patrick. Folks, it doesn’t take believing in a “vast right wing conspiracy” to know that Diebold backed Bush to the hilt — and they programmed the voting machines in every swing state! Ask any literate computer geek, especially those involved in the electronic voting business. Not only is it easy to change vote tallies before the fact — it’s virtually untraceable!
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:09 pmNova- I agree. I think that what happened in 2004 was not just the stupid Diebold machines. A percentage of the public believed the fear that if Kerry won, we’d die.
Also, people in think tanks like Frank Luntz, who never revealed that he was partisan until it was too late, tend to influence people by focusing on performance and manipulating others into not being impressed enough to gaurantee someone who has the right idea the vote.
We have Bush and if he launches WW3 in Iran, we certainly will die. And the last words on our lips will be in that line from the film “The Hunt For Red October”: “You arrogant ass. You killed us.”
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:11 pmBush is an arrogant ass and will kill us.
Bordering on criminal? Is that a joke? All of these lying traitors should be arrested, taken out of the “white House” and Put on trial for treason and Crimes against Humanity.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:12 pmThen a Representative of this country should go to the UN and apoligize to the World Saying that the presidential vote was corrupted (which it was) by these criminals and their cronies, that the Amerian People never elected this group of traitors, and that they do Not represent the people of the United States, or the will of the people of the United States. If this was done, I feel we would see a 180 degree shift from the people of the world, they would no longer hate the USA and would probably forgive the horrible things that have been done by these criminals. Then the US would again have the respect and admiration of the people of the world, and would be the Beacon of Freedom and Hope for the world that it has always been.
Amazing! 60 minutes here in Washington State is scrambled….what’s with that. I can’t wait to see when we get a good broadcast back.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:13 pmThe Bush Regime members are all liars, so nothing surprises me anymore! They all need to be sent to Siberia and never allowed to return!
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:14 pm[…] The CIA Director told Bush and Cheney of evidence of no WMD: Tonight on 60 Minutes, Tyler Drumheller, the former chief of the CIA’s Europe division, revealed that in the fall of 2002, President Bush, Vice President Cheney, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and others were told by CIA Director George Tenet that Iraq’s foreign minister — who agreed to act as a spy for the United States — had reported that Iraq had no active weapons of mass destruction program. […]
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:16 pmErroll: Both Tenet and Colin Powell were forced to bite the bullet and support the big lie about WMDs or suffer the wrath of Cheney/Bush. It is unfortunate that they were aware of the lie, but failed to convey the truth, probably similar to the retired military officers criticizing Rumsfeld and Bush for the misconduct of the debacle in Iraq. They would not criticize while on duty for obvious reasons.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:17 pmAnother bent nail. This coffin will just not close.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:17 pmThis group of criminals will not have to fear any action from Americans as long as they control congress. Congressional repubs will protect bushco from ANY serious investigation or even questions. Why do you think Rove has been assigned to continue the repub control of congress in November? They need single party protection to continue their criminal ways.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:18 pm#16 BnF
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:18 pmThere is no counter-argument. BTW, am I right in thinking you are in the legal field?
Your arguments are always well written.
As for the compelling CBS segment — we did not hear anything we didn’t already know did we?
Over and over we hear the truthas it is squeezed out of the bag of lies in the White House, but nothing really changes, and nothing will change. At least not in the foreseeable future. The best we can hope for is that the Dems take over the Congress in eight months and Bush can’t accomplish anything in the next 1000 days.
The loco cowboy-in-chief will never resign. In his desperate last days, what outrageous, illegal, unethical and immoral acts will he commit?
He is already planning his bombing of Iran; and he will act whether or not he has permission from Congress or the UN — but after he does it - we have to deal with it.
[…] Think Progress: 60 Minutes: CIA Official Reveals Bush, Cheney, Rice Were Personally Told Iraq Had No WMD in Fall 2002 […]
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:20 pmIMPEACH THEM NOW!!!
When will there be enough evidence?
When will America wake the Hell up?
We need to take our Country back before this LUNATIC sets into motion his “ultimate resolution” and blows us all up!
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:21 pm#33 Dalloway
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:28 pmIt is my greatest fear that the Rethugs will steal the upcoming elections with their rigged, paperless voting machines, and other unethical practices that disenfranchise and otherwise discourage voters.
I am an election judge and I saw my own county slip in the Diebold machines last month over the outrage from Democrats and others who have read of the history of Diebold and Sequoia. My husband was a poll watcher and heard many lies that Repub. judges were telling voters extolling the “virtues” of the electronic machines.
As I went to vote, I was publicly ridiculed by a Repub. judge because I dared to ask for a paper ballot.
I think this is only the beginning of how they will steal the election because they know they can’t win it legally.
Come on America’s citizens, George W. Bush needs to be brought to book for his incompetence and the lies he and his cronies have disseminated to justify his administrations invasion of Iraq.
While this new piece of evidence is damning in showing that Bush had an agenda, and nothing was going to stop Bush from invading Iraq. What Tyler Drumheller has disclosed to 60 Minutes is hardly earth-shattering is it. It’s just another piece of the incriminating jig-saw which fits nicely into the whole Neo-con picture, which is starting to take shape, and from which people can make out what Bush and his cohorts have been up to over the last four and a half years.
Though this story is infuriating to those who wonder how Bush gets away with what he does, it shouldn’t come as a surprise to anybody that this went on before the invasion of Iraq. There have been a number of stories and leaks, which have substantiated that the Iraq invasion was pre-conceived, and no amount of intelligence that contradicted their indoctrinated beliefs that Iraq was a danger to the US with their WMD’s was going to stop the invasion.
After-all George W. Bush is the ‘Great Decider’ or should that be the ’Great Deceiver’. When your inner sanctum is full of the type people with the characters that Bush relies on to tell him how to do his job, then what does anybody expect from the President.
This forum is great for people to meet and discuss the topics that are raised everyday on Think Progress. But more needs to be done with stories like this particular one, if you want to see your hard work come to fruition in ousting George W. Bush from the White House, along with any other of his cronies who have blood on their hands, from George W. Bush’s futile ‘War On Terror’.
Good-luck to all of you, keep up the good work.
Abraham Lincoln Speech: The Gettysburg Address
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that “all men are created equal”
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of it, as a final resting place for those who died here, that the nation might live. This we may, in all propriety do. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow, this ground– The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have hallowed it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here; while it can never forget what they did here.
It is rather for us, the living, to stand here, we here be dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that, from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people by the people for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
Two Of Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill’s Quotes:
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.
Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:31 pmWell keep in mind that the people also voted for all 435 Representative but 133 of those Representatives voted against the AUMF. If the administration lied us into war,how was it that Reps like John Murtha got re-elected despite voting for the war? How is it that Harry Reid is the Dem leader in the Senate,yet he,too,voted for the war? Or Kerry or Kennedy? The people voted them back in also. What people are you talking about? It’s not enough to be against the Pres. if you’re going to support the true aiders and abetters,Congress.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:35 pmMy Rep (a Dem) voted against the AUMF and so I gladly crossed party lines (party isn’t everything) with support for him and will again in Nov. Would you vote for Reid,knowing that his lack of judgment as to the AUMF shows his true nature? Why would you want Senate leadership from someone like that?
It’s politicians like Murtha who would be more credible if he had resigned when he announced his opposition to the war. Instead,he runs again and wins as he will in Nov.
It’s “heroes” like Joe Wilson who took 6 months to write an op-ed after the SOTU. What was he waiting for? But,no,he is a hero for revealing (what numerous others had already revealed) 4 months after the invasion that the justification (well one piece) was unfounded,some hero.
When you get your house to look like a house instead of the political hovel the Democratic party occupies currently,with real leaders instead of the spineless snakes you have now,all this talk of “aiding and abetting” is just hot keystrokes.
Iraqi foreign minister, Hans Blix many other people were saying the same thing about the Iraq WMD programs. 60 Mins could maybe do a segmant showing all of the people and the information they provided and the WH response to them.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:36 pm#46. If the the administration lied us into war,how was it that Reps like John Murtha got re-elected despite voting for the war? How is it that Harry Reid is the Dem leader in the Senate,yet he,too,voted for the war? Or Kerry or Kennedy? The people voted them back in also.
Surely you have heard of gerrymandered districts. Nearly all House seats are safe for the incumbant, thanks to redistricting following the census every 10 years. Or sooner, if Delay gets his way, which he did in Texas.
Now, throw electronic voting machines supplied by a Republican businessman into the mix and who knows, maybe the Republicans will make a clean sweep of it in ‘06. Must be something wrong with the exit polls……………
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:41 pmI blame the Democrats for their cowardice. It was clear a long time ago that the Bush team were liars, dangerous America destroying scumbags + obvious lawbreakers.
The constitution designed a system of checks and balances - legislative, administration, and supreme court. It is the duty of Congress to do oversight on the administration - even a very partisan Nixon congress took the responsibility seriously.
This congress has done ZERO hearings or oversight of this admin.
A handful of Dems pulling together could have stopped all business in congress and demanded sworn hearings a long time ago. I bet with the news generated it would have only taken 3 or 4 days —WHICH ISN’T SHT ! AND WOULD HAVE CAUSED ZERO HARM.
What have we done to deserve this devolvement into a useless pathetic pack of absolute cowards. IT MAKES ME WANT TO SCREAM.
I get these stupid fund raisers left and right from the democratic party and I want to jam it up their kester.
Whatever happened to bravery and guts — does Joe Sixpack have to take to the streets for revolution. DNC DON’T SEND ME ANYMORE STUFF TILL YOU GROW SOME BALLS - YOU ARE AS RESPONSIBLE OR MORE RESPONSIBLE THEN THE CHIMP FOR DESTROYING AMERICA
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:42 pmTJM most of the congress voted for the AUMF based on cherry picked intell and the PROMISE that Bush would get a SECOND UN resolution before invading….only Bush knew at the time he WAS NOT going to keep his word…and he was mis-stating the intell….the intell that Bush hid was what congress needed….and that is the reason Bush hid the intell, because if congress had that intell Bush knew he wouldn’t get His “authorisation” which he intended the subvert.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:43 pmImpeach the traitors and then bring them to court .
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:44 pmTJM most of the congress voted for the AUMF based on cherry picked intell and the PROMISE that Bush would get a SECOND UN resolution before invading….only Bush knew at the time he WAS NOT going to keep his word…and he was mis-stating the intell….the intell that Bush hid was what congress needed….and that is the reason Bush hid the intell, because if congress had that intell Bush knew he wouldn’t get His “authorisation” which he intended the subvert.
Stop being SOOOOO dishonest…you sound like Bush…..
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:45 pmThe way for Americans to stop aiding and abetting is to stand up on their hind legs and get in their elected representative’s face and DEMAND impeachment and subsequent indictment of the asshole Bush.
The sooner these clown are ousted, the sooner the healing can begin.
If the Republicans still had any fucntioning brain tissue after years of drinking the Kool-Aid - they’d know that the only way to save their precious GOP is to get out front on impeachment. If they want to distance themselves from Dubbya - that’s the express lane.
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:47 pmSure. The liberals in the liberal media on the the liberal show never bother to ask him if he ever donated money to a Democrat or if he ever voted for a Democrat. [/restupidlican]
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:54 pm#54 yo moron the truth ain’t democratic or republican….and that is where the neo-cons have failed, they think the truth is what they say it is……
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:59 pmI’m tired of these guys coming forward now. Where the hell were they four years ago when avoiding an invasion was possible?
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:00 pmNico - What did our high level spy say about inactivated WMD’s in Iraq?? Or was the spy referred to on 60 Seconds concentrating only on active WMD’s? Our intelligence was compromised because of…could it be the Frank Church Commission?? Churches dismantling of viable intelligence operations borders on the treasonous. But allow me to commend you, Nico, on fine word parsing and reporting….you should look into a part time gig at CBS - they are SO “fair and balanced”.
Good night!
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:01 pmNo American wants to believe the President lied. Well how many facts and people have to tell the truth before Americans realize Bush has lied and is still lying. Bush/Cheney/Rove have really done a job on good Americans to make them believe Saddam had WMD when on TV we saw the weapons with USA written on them and they were so old they would fall apart. No one wants to admit they’ve been played for a fool but we should get use to it. The other countries knew Bush was lying notice how many countries join in the invasion. Only the small countries that we paid were involved. Blair will be gone in Dec. and England will not trust us again while Bush is in office. So for all those fools that still say Bush is telling the truth remember when you put gas in your car at $5.00 per gallon that Bush said Iraq would help lower our gas bills. Now he wants to invade Iran next the Saudi’s and then all of the middle east. Dumb people can be fooled all the time I guess the United States is an example of that even with the truth out Americans believe the liar.
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:05 pmMA if you actually knew anything about WMD’s you’d know they have a shelf life, and must be updated or rebuilt, there are NO inactivated WMD’s except those which are being De-milled or inactivated for dismantaling in the case of nukes, chemical agents are burned usually. Unless Iraq had an ongoing program then they would have none because most of their 80’s stockpile were destroyed by the UN inspections in 96-97 after Saddams son-in-law ratted his stocks out….Having worked in the Army with WMD’s I understand that you might not have the expertise given the # of law schools, jobs and children you have had in the 15 years you have been “all-grown-up”(LOL)
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:09 pmThis is the best 60 min in a long long time. I’m so relived that the MSM has finally caught up with the rest of us who knew this administration was a pack of liars all along.
I thought one of the best parts was when he talked about confronting his relatives that can’t believe that the President would lie about such a serious issue.
BELIEVE IT! Don’t be the last on your block to see through this pack of prevaricators.
Come with us you Republican come latelys into the world of truth.
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:11 pm#59 - Thank you for your WMD lesson. It’s not difficult to do what I have done if you have a positive relationaship with God, a wonderful spouse, well-liked and well-behaved children, sleep 4-5 hours a night, great law professors, supportive colleagues, and funny, wonderful brothers, sisters and cousins.
Thank you for your service - my active duty brother is delighted you are no longer serving.
Good night.
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:27 pmthe only hope
these filthy miscreants in the white house are indistinguishable from hitler but for the frigging mustache!!!!
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:36 pmObviously you do not know me… but you keep making value judgements like your boy george… all made up with no facts…….
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:37 pmObviously you do not know me… but you keep making value judgements like your boy george… all made up with no facts…….and if your brother who never met me and knows nothing about me but what you tell him he is not a very informed soldier thus must be LOW ranking otherwise he would want more info before makjing a judgement for himself. As a medically retired Officer I never took one persons personal views about another as the whole truth,
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:42 pmFor the latest PlameGate and Iraq WMD news, reports, documents, and timelines, see:
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:50 pm- “The PlameGate Scandal Resource Center”
- “The Iraq WMD Intelligence Center.”
I’d mentioned the Drumheller story in last night’s Assclowns of the Week. You wouldn’t know it because I was in such a rush to get the post up that I (der) neglected to mention Drumheller’s name.
But nothing much will come of this because Drumheller is only corroborating what countless CIA officials and intelligence analysts have been saying for years, now (including Robert Greenwald’s Exposed): That the Bush administration was cherry-picking intelligence to retrofit their prefab notions about Iraq.
And to retroactively blame the intelligence community for the intelligence failures that made Iraq possible is not only the height of chutzpah, it’s downright despicable. This sets a dangerous precedent for future administrations who will have a read-made scapegoat for future policy and military failures.
Breaking news: How can the Illinois State Legislature initiate impeachment proceedings against Bush? Click on this news article and find out more about this bombshell that’s screaming down toward DC.
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:51 pmyes, as for the illinois impeachment, they are relying on:
Section 603 of Jefferson’s Manual. This is not something that silly since the HR rule page list the Manual right along with the other substantive HR rules…
Should make for a fun monday!
peace.
April 24th, 2006 at 12:07 amThank you for your service - my active duty brother is delighted you are no longer serving.
Good night.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 23, 2006 @
Just another republican using the troops for cheap partisan reasons. Your brother would probably like a little company, chickenhawk. Enlist, cowardly scum, and take his place if you’re so concerned about his welfare.
April 24th, 2006 at 12:07 am#
I’m tired of these guys coming forward now. Where the hell were they four years ago when avoiding an invasion was possible?
Comment by Lesly — April 23, 2006 @ 11:00 pm
They saw Joe Wilson gang-raped by Bush, Cheney, Rove and their willing dupes in the media. It is now save to go back to the poolhall and have a drink, now that the drunk gang of rapists is getting run out of town, one by one. Libby, Delay, Wayne Allen, Casino Jack, and more to come.
-GSD
April 24th, 2006 at 12:15 am[…] 60 Minutes: CIA Official Reveals Bush, Cheney, Rice Were Personally Told Iraq Had No WMD in Fall 2002 […]
April 24th, 2006 at 12:27 amThe real issue is not the Administration but the very powerful MEDIA, i expect politician to lie, cheat and steal if the ABC’s NBC’s and CBS turn the other cheek…. finally the worst president in human history is being caught … time will tell
April 24th, 2006 at 12:31 amBut allow me to commend you, Nico, on fine word parsing and reporting….you should look into a part time gig at CBS - they are SO “fair and balancedâ€. Good night! Mighty Moronâ€
And thanks for demonstrating that you really believe Fox news is propaganda - why else would you use “fair and balanced”, the trademarked signature line for Fox, to refer sarcastically to CBS? It is only sarcasm if you think “fair and balanced” is bullshit, just like the rest of us. Careful, or we’ll start to think you’re a closet liberal; which wouldn’t really come as a surprise, seeing that most republicans are social deviants.
April 24th, 2006 at 12:37 am#41 Marie, I am not yet in the legal field, but I do thank you for your compliment. I graduate this May with a Juris Doctor degree. I have studied a fair amount of International Law, enough to be sickened by what my country is doing, all in the name of freedom and democracy.
I notice Mighty Aphrodite hasn’t stepped up to the challenge to actually defend her Commander in Chief against charges of International War Crimes. And she claims to be a Defense Attorney, no less. Perhaps she could say “res ipsa loquitur” or something legal like, something that reaches beyond the latest episode of Law and Order.
My heart goes out to all the active duty soldiers, men and women, who are in harm’s way in Bush’s War. And to their parents. I have kids their age, and I can empathise with what they are going through every night and every day. We should all pray for them.
Peace and Blessings.
April 24th, 2006 at 1:43 am…” Once more there was a sound of boots outside. Winston’s entrails contracted.”
April 24th, 2006 at 1:44 amNothing here that the world didn’t know already.
April 24th, 2006 at 1:49 ammighty tripey is just an idiot. i mean a full-blown, worthless hack of an idiot.
sure, jump into the conversation with a total non sequitor, and then duck out, but not before taking the time to heap praise upon “herself” and hurl another insult or two for good measure.
if you want to defend your worthless idiot president, tripey, then give it a shot. i believe the topic is: cia agent accusing administration of ignoring hard evidence of no wmd’s - with the all-too familiar theme … “they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy.”
can you refute that? can you justify that? i don’t think so. you’re just a valueless piece of human trash, tripey. i know that’s extreme to say, but i also know that you pretty much regard most people here in exactly the same way. so i’ll spare us all the niceties.
if you actually demonstrated ANY ability to make judgements based on FACT, i might be able to give you the benefit of the doubt. but there is no doubt anymore — you are a completely hopeless partisan screw-up with only one purpose: TO GLORIFY HERR LEADER! HEIL BUSH! HEIL BUSH! HEIL BUSH!!!
as if bush actually gives even the most accidental fart about your life. what a loser you are.
that is all.
April 24th, 2006 at 2:28 amRyan,
As you can see, as long as the Unites States is a member of the United Nations, we are under a Treaty obligation to uphold its Charter. And Treaties are the Supreme Law of the Land under our Constitution. You know, the document Bush took an oath to uphold…that ’scrap of paper.’
I’m still waiting for MA’s rebuttal.
April 24th, 2006 at 2:30 amMA is going to have a hard time claiming Valire Plame didn’t work on the WMD issue with the Memo declassified recently, available here:Valire Wilson a CIA WMD manager,
wonder what (s)he will slander the state department for about this little fact.
April 24th, 2006 at 2:40 am[…] CIA Official Reveals Bush, Cheney, Rice Were Personally Told Iraq Had No WMD in Fall 2002 DRUMHELLER: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming, and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy, to justify the policy. […]
April 24th, 2006 at 2:48 am“Tis gas prices that slaid the beast” was told to the reporters as King Kush finally met his end.
April 24th, 2006 at 3:04 amPerhaps we should start a “black ribbon campaign” to run for the remained of the time we have the traitor in the white house! It could signify the mourning of the loss of all the values our great nation was founded upon. Then maybe, just maybe, once 100 million people start showing them everywhere the rest of the world will realize that America is currently under the thumb of a corrupt regime that appointed itself by means of corrupt Supreme Court Justices even though they lost the 2000 election. It is a great deal to hope for I know, but I fear this may be our only hope to remove these miscreants from our hallowed halls of government. I’d even go so far as to suggest writing letters to delegates in the UN urging countries to break off all ties With this administration until a truly independent body was permitted to examine the true evidence from 9/11 which is in direct conflict with the 9/11 commissions report. And the UN should look into the fixing of the Pre-war intel since it does directly violate the law and is indeed all the justification they would need to charge GWB and his admin with war crimes as well as numerous human rights violations.
April 24th, 2006 at 3:19 amITMFA
April 24th, 2006 at 3:32 amI will bring them to their knees.
April 24th, 2006 at 4:21 amI wouldn’t get too excited. They’ll just “Swiftboat” and (falsely) discredit this guy like they do everybody else.
April 24th, 2006 at 4:23 amKing George must go. As quickly as possible with as much fanfare as possible a correction must be made. Today the figure that lays on the trigger along still mad man. Certainly I will support anything he does in Afghanistan. The hidden boldface lie to start wars cannot be left uncorrected.
April 24th, 2006 at 6:46 amClif,you can’t be serious since the fact that 133 reps weren’t taken in by the “false” intel,what happened to the rest. Your argument is as vacuous as your accusations. The fact that you can’t comprehend declarative sentences is an educational flaw you should work on in your spare time.
April 24th, 2006 at 6:58 amBriseadh,again you seem to have a real blind spot over this election stuff. What I said about Murtha,a Democratic rep has nothing to do with Delay or anyone else. It has to do with voters like you who stand in opposition to the administration and can’t seem to recognize that the Democratic party’s leadership is non-existent. So long as Reid (voted for the AUMF) Kerry (voted for the AUMF),Kennedy (voted for the AUMF) and the others constitute the “leadership”,the party will wander in the desert. There is no there, there.
You can’t make a response,so you blame it on someone else. The posters here (Judd,Faiz etc.) are worth reading,but the commenters like you two are singers of the same song on every thread: Bush lied,he’s a criminal,he’s corrupt,well,duh! But I notice you wouldn’t respond to the leadership issue. Oh well,I’ll go find some adults on the Wash.monthly blog.
Thank you for your WMD lesson. It’s not difficult to do what I have done if you have a positive relationaship with God, a wonderful spouse, well-liked and well-behaved children, sleep 4-5 hours a night, great law professors, supportive colleagues, and funny, wonderful brothers, sisters and cousins.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 23, 2006 @ 11:27 pm
You really should keep a journal of what you say, dude. As Ryan already pointed out, this is in complete conflict with your previous imaginary life. Clearly, because you don’t have a photographic (or even decent) memory, you fail to understand that there are those who do.
No way you are or have any of the things you say, or you wouldn’t spend so much time in here insulting people. It’s not logical. But, neither are you, so what’s to be expected really?
Oh well, keep running your mouth. It’s become funny to see what lie you’ll try to sell next. I’m guessing you’ll be appointed judge or have another baby. Whatever it is it will be incredulous as usual.
April 24th, 2006 at 7:12 amThe results would stun a stampeding hoarde of neocons into silence and stillness.
Comment by Nate — April 23, 2006 @ 9:00 pm
Now that would be a treat! :)
Keep us posted. It’ll be interesting to see how this will develop.
April 24th, 2006 at 7:14 amI wouldn’t get too excited. They’ll just “Swiftboat†and (falsely) discredit this guy like they do everybody else.
Comment by JPV — April 24, 2006 @ 4:23 am
Fortunately, they tied in his information with an interview with Joe Wilson, and the history of the event. It will be tough to discredit this one. CBS was on the ball with it. As if they knew they had to be.
April 24th, 2006 at 7:16 amThen bush is a liar - But more importantly a MASS MURDERER
April 24th, 2006 at 7:48 ama mass murderer that bombs INNOCENT women and children, to say the very least
April 24th, 2006 at 8:52 amI guarantee you that Drumheller had a wife who donated money to Kerry.
April 24th, 2006 at 8:54 amYeah except this man, Sabri, told us that Iraq HAD chemical weapons, wanted nuclear weapons, and had a nascent biological program. Not to mention that this was coming from Saddam’s inner circle. So once again, we hear a bunch of half truths from political operatives. Wonderful.
Let’s declassify the reports coming from Sabri and let’s see who the liar is.
April 24th, 2006 at 9:09 amfriends and family of US soldiers in Iraq need to inundate the White House with angry phone calls… they need to let W know they’re NOT HAPPY!
April 24th, 2006 at 9:17 amNow this is the CBS of ‘Good Night and Good Luck’ legend! It was an excellent piece that connected all of the dots. If this isn’t the final nail in Bush’s coffin, then I really don’t know what will be.
Comment by unbelievable #2
unbelievable,
Not so fast…
…the republiscum party realizes that their “Golden Boy” turned dogsh*t…
…will almost certainly be dragged through the mud, if they lose the midterm elections in Nov…
…this raises cause for much concern as to electoral dirty tricks (a’ la Diebold, katherine Harris/Ken Blackwell)…
…many states STILL have electronic voting machines and crooked voting apparatus set up to steal elections..
… therefore it is incumbent upon all patriotic Americans to be vigilant, and vocal in exhorting our/ your local elections officials to get optical scanning votin machines installed BEFORE this election…
…these machines offer a much needed paper trail…
…the Bushites are desperate, and their inbred base (the perpetual 33%) care so much about the image of the “presidency” and their gods Bushiva and L’il Dick..
…that they are willing to run this country straight into hell to preserve their potentates’ dignity…
…that is their “PERCEIVED” dignity (which of course we thinking Progressives know is non-existent)…
… Progressives ALL, let’s get busy and demand optical scanning voting machines!
…on Mr. Drumheller, another American patriot risks everything to get the truth out…
…we MUST NOT let him, the generals, Mary McCarthy, or Bunnatine Greenhouse and Coleen Rowley down!
April 24th, 2006 at 9:18 amGood morning Unbelievable - the 60 Minutes piece was very well done, wasn’t it? While they mentioned other lies regarding WMD, they wisely concentrated on outting one particular lie, the phony Niger claims, and told the story from beginning to end in a way that will make it very difficult to dispute. I look forward to MA and IRI’s eloquent arguments disputing the facts of this piece, don’t you?
April 24th, 2006 at 9:24 amSeixon: If Saddam had chemical weapons, where did he get them? According to the record, during the Iraq-Iran war, the US was only to happy to support and supply him with tactical and chemical material to defeat Iran. Wonder who has the largest supply of nuclear and chemical weaponry in the world? Wonder how that supply of Napalm is holding up?
April 24th, 2006 at 9:26 amI find it amazing that a little punk so called President was allowed to start a war just for the hell of it and he still hasn’t been impeached. He launched another Gulf of Tonkin and was laughing all the way “It’s so much fun to start wars, dur dur dur!” Now he’s on to step 2, Iran. The PNAC plan was set years ago and people still elected this moron when they all should have known was he was going to do and based on the people all around him, all of whom signed that PNAC letter. America got what it asked for and if they re-elect the GOP to keep control in Nov., then all that says is “I enjoy getting beaten up and abused, I don’t care”…..Republicans beat up and abuse the American people like a step-child but it sure seems like they enjoy getting beaten on day after day after day. Sad…very sad.
April 24th, 2006 at 9:28 amI look forward to MA and IRI’s eloquent arguments disputing the facts of this piece, don’t you?
Comment by Quadrajet — April 24, 2006 @ 9:24 am
Morning Quadrajet,
Yeah, I was impressed with the piece. It was as if they’d all been inspited by their past all of a sudden, hu? I hope they keep it up, cause aside from 60 Minutes I’ve stopped watching them after they caved into the pressure and didn’t air the Reagan biopic.
Mighty Medusa is predictable. He’ll say: udhhkjdvlkjhvu vhushc;dhciudhc lhcudubvisuhvksvkjcnv hdcbbckbvkji nsldcvniosnsli idncsncsnc ncnsdjn indlcnslkdnc hiubhiudc nzin incknc izsdcjklnzljcn.
There are no valid arguments to dispute this anymore, so I’m sure the invalid ones will be humorous :) Guess we’ll see….
April 24th, 2006 at 9:32 amBig Papa, They will try. I just don’t think they have many people left who are listening.
April 24th, 2006 at 9:34 amMighty Medusa is predictable. He’ll say: udhhkjdvlkjhvu vhushc;dhciudhc lhcudubvisuhvksvkjcnv hdcbbckbvkji nsldcvniosnsli idncsncsnc ncnsdjn indlcnslkdnc hiubhiudc nzin incknc izsdcjklnzljcn.
Comment by unbelievable — April 24, 2006 @ 9:32 am
Bwhahahahahahaha! Thanks for the laugh Unbelievable:) Wonder what the diversion will be today?
April 24th, 2006 at 9:39 amI have to wonder how those 5000 American parents without sons and daughters as a result of his deceptions feel about King George today. I mean, do they tell themselves that Bush is really smart and if he said the troops had to go to Iraq, well then he was no doubt right… or do they sometimes wonder if this stooge has half the mind he was born with? Do they look at the pictures of their daughters and thank god that the Iraqi people are now free to choose Sharia Law? Do they look at the pictures of their sons and wonder if they would have made better Presidents than the man that sent them to their death?
April 24th, 2006 at 9:47 amThe Drumheller interview on 60 Minutes was well done and informative for all of you who have your head beneath the covers for the past 6 years.
There was absolutely nothing new in this interview that has not been brought to your attention time and time again. Yet, you allow you elected representatives in Washington ignore the lies and deception of George W. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and numerous others.
From the gitgo this whole thing should have been investigated by the Senate. Was there one outcry for such an investigation? If so, I did not hear it. The thing was buried by the Republican congress with the aid of the Amurkan public. NO ONE CAME FORTH.
This morning there should be millions at the gate of the White House awaiting the return of fearless leader from his pussyfooting trip in California. Will there be anyone at the gate? I doubt it. Will there be a call in the halls of congress for any sort of investigation? I doubt it. Will there be swiftboating of the messenger? Absolutely. Will there be further revelations e.g. the bin Laden tape? Absolutely. Will this all be forgotten and swept under the rug, one again? Absolutely.
The American people have the attention span of a three year old. Period.
April 24th, 2006 at 9:50 amBwhahahahahahaha! Thanks for the laugh Unbelievable:) Wonder what the diversion will be today?
Comment by Quadrajet — April 24, 2006 @ 9:39
Some sympathy ploy, perhaps? It was a dead child last week. Maybe his brother will go down in a black hawk in Iraq? Something extreme I bet.
I was once having a conversation with another liberal, and MA posted something to me. I ignored him, so 15 minutes later he posted it a second time. He’s all about getting attention at any cost. So, no telling what outrageous faux tragedy he will cook up next… Any ideas?
April 24th, 2006 at 9:54 am#61 It’s not difficult to do what I have done if you have a positive relationaship with God,
That’s not what he told me.
a wonderful spouse,
That’s not what she told me.
well-liked and well-behaved children
Well, just the same, I’d keep the gun cabinet locked.
April 24th, 2006 at 9:57 am[…] 60 Minutes: CIA Official Reveals Bush, Cheney, Rice Were Personally Told Iraq Had No WMD in Fall 2002 […]
April 24th, 2006 at 10:09 amMighty Medusa is predictable. He’ll say: udhhkjdvlkjhvu vhushc;dhciudhc lhcudubvisuhvksvkjcnv hdcbbckbvkji nsldcvniosnsli idncsncsnc ncnsdjn indlcnslkdnc hiubhiudc nzin incknc izsdcjklnzljcn.
Comment by unbelievable — April 24, 2006 @ 9:32 am
April 24th, 2006 at 10:18 amHe’s all about getting attention at any cost. So, no telling what outrageous faux tragedy he will cook up next… Any ideas?
Comment by unbelievable — April 24, 2006 @ 9:54 am
Well, I’d guess some unfounded claim that Drumheller supported Kerry in ‘04, but as irrelevant as such a claim would be even if true it would still be too applicable to the topic at hand for MA so I’m ruling that out. I’m sure that Clinton is behind all of this somehow - and possibly FDR - so maybe something along those lines. I hadn’t read the ‘baby’ claim - I know this is cold but I have to ask, was it a suicide? And to think that even a death in the family doesn’t prevent him from posting here, what a trooper!
April 24th, 2006 at 10:20 amWhy aren’t Bush supporters furious with him for lying to them, over and over, and over again? It was the worst thing EVER, when President Clinton lied about cheating on his wife with another (younger) woman. Poor America, will she ever recover? Woe to us. We wasted several YEARS, and millions and millions of dollars investigating an ’sex scandal’. People are shocked that a man would lie about cheating on his wife???? The “Righties” happily raged on and on about it, EVERY SINGLE DAY, FOR YEARS!!! Gawd!!! I wish that was all that BushCo was lying to us about now. But nooooooo, every day, more lies come out, each one more horrifying than the one before it. Clinton lied about sex, Bush lied us into a “war” with Iraq, and is NOW trying to start another one, based on even more lies, but THIS TIME he wants to use NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!! Clinton Bashers should be consistent, you need to bash Bush for all of his lies, which have been exposed by mountains of evidence, but they continue to lie to all of us anyway, and any who dare to contradict their assertions are destroyed. People had no problem accepting that Clinton lied about “Oral in the Oval Office”, but WILL NOT believe that GWB lied, and continues to lie, about war, and would prefer that we remain fearful, and actively reinforce it, with more lies. Yes, it’s awful to admit it to yourself, and to see what it caused you to do, trying to defend them. But, of course you wanted to believe the President, because if he was willing to lie to your face, just to do whatever he wants to do, what WON’T he do? Hell, he wants to NUKE IRAN!!!! Why would lying bother him?
April 24th, 2006 at 10:33 amSo what mischief are the Bush loving trolls up to today? More of the same or some new slander? They have to be paid well to defend a turd like Bush ass > lol.
April 24th, 2006 at 10:39 am“Tyler Drumheller, the former chief of the CIA’s Europe division,”
Some Liberal asshats in the CIA have been working against Bush since he got in office. With a little luck some of them will be tried and sent to prison for turning over classified information to the Left Wing Press. Like this bitch:
In a rare occurrence, the CIA fired an officer who acknowledged giving classified information to a reporter, NBC News learned Friday.
The officer flunked a polygraph exam before being fired on Thursday and is now under investigation by the Justice Department, NBC has learned.
Intelligence sources tell NBC News the accused officer, Mary McCarthy, worked in the CIA’s inspector general’s office and had worked for the National Security Council under the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12423825/
These are the kind of people who were working for Bill Clinton and still in place to allow a dozen ragheads to kill three thousand Americans on 9-11. Now they are working to undermine our war efforts. I’d sure like to see these bastards put away but it seems they have too many high profile Democrats running interference for them
The CIA’s war against the Bush administration is one of the great untold stories of the past three years. It is, perhaps, the agency’s most successful covert action of recent times. The CIA has used its budget to fund criticism of the administration by former Democratic officeholders. The agency allowed an employee, Michael Scheuer, to publish and promote a book containing classified information, as long as, in Scheuer’s words, “the book was being used to bash the president.†However, the agency’s preferred weapon has been the leak. In one leak after another, generally to the New York Times or the Washington Post, CIA officials have sought to undermine America’s foreign policy. Usually this is done by leaking reports or memos critical of administration policies or skeptical of their prospects. Through it all, our principal news outlets, which share the agency’s agenda and profit from its torrent of leaks, have maintained a discreet silence about what should be a major scandal.â€
http://www.weeklystandard.com/ Content/ Public/ Articles/ 000/ 000/ 006/ 417aldhj.asp
This is your post modern Progressive (communist) Democratic Party. The party of Treason, Abortion and Sodomy.
April 24th, 2006 at 10:44 amCongrats IRI, in one post you managed an attempt to change the subject to CIA leaks, blame Clinton for something, inject your personal brand of bigotry and hatred, and label those who dissent as treasonous and supporters of abortion. I’ll give you an 8.
Now, how about giving us your thoughts on the white house’s promotion of intelligence it knew to be false.
April 24th, 2006 at 10:54 amhow is this news? Just because it made 60 mins means nothing. The facts have been there for anyone to see. If you only now are coming to the conclusion that bushit lied then you are not paying attention.
April 24th, 2006 at 10:59 amAs to the american people voting in this evil cabal,,,well, the elections were rigged. bushit has never been elected to the office he holds, has never had political capitol to spend. he is the anti-christ as far as I’m concerned. Hope his father and “babs” are happy with what they unleashed on our country and the world.
bushit is a liar, a thief, a fake. Those that did vote for him support something they don’t understand, dancing to a tune sung from hell.
Hopefully we will get a democracy back when all is said and done, if we still have a country to work with.
So, who is this traitor?
Prior to joining CSIS in August 2001, Mary O. McCarthy was a senior policy adviser to the CIA’s deputy director for science and technology. Until July 2001, she served as special assistant to the president and senior director for intelligence programs on the National Security Council (NSC) Staff, under both Presidents Clinton and Bush. From 1991 until her appointment to the NSC, McCarthy served on the National Intelligence Council. She began her government service as an analyst, then manager, in CIA’s Directorate of Intelligence, holding positions in both African and Latin American analysis. From 1979 to 1984 she was employed by BERI, S.A., conducting financial, operational, and political risk assessments for multinational companies and banks. Previously she had taught at the University of Minnesota and was director of the Social Science Data Archive at Yale University. McCarthy has a B.A. and M.A. in history from Michigan State University, an M.A. in library science from the University of Minnesota, and a Ph.D. in history from the University of Minnesota. She is the author of Social Change and the Growth of British Power in the Gold Coast (University Press of America, 1983).
Guess who else belongs to the Center for Strategic and International Studies ?
Zbigniew Brzezinski — Counselor and Trustee, CSIS
General Wesley Clark USA (Ret.), Distinguished Senior Adviser
General Anthony Zinni USMC (Ret.), Distinguished Senior Adviser
http://www.csis.org/ component/ option,com_csis_experts/ task,view/ type,34/ id,98/
What a surprise! Guess who promoted the traitor within the department? Oh come on, you get three guesses. How about Sandy the Burglar? You know the Donk operative that got caught stuffing secret papers down his pants and then “losing” them.
Washington — National Security Advisor Samuel R. Berger announced June 16 the appointment of Mary O’Neil McCarthy as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Intelligence Programs.
http://www.fas.org/ irp/ news/ 1998/ 06/ 98061701_tpo.html
I think that around election time a sitting US Senator on the Donk side will be charged for leaking secret information. It’s just a guess. Really.
April 24th, 2006 at 11:00 amIRI, any chance of getting you to comment on the subject of the thread? For your clarification, the topic is the Bush administration’s knowledge that the WMD claims were suspect at best.
April 24th, 2006 at 11:11 amoh well, that changes everything … i get it now, iris …
April 24th, 2006 at 11:13 amit’s all good that thousands have died to enrich a few…
who cares about LIES, the real criminals are those that
try to save the democracy… it’s all clear now…
Now, how about giving us your thoughts on the white house’s promotion of intelligence it knew to be false.
Comment by Quadrajet
Who said it was “known” to be false? One of your leaking traitorous Democratic Party political operatives working with the CIA to bring down our government? Really? Your sources are corrupt. Try again.
April 24th, 2006 at 11:14 amI-RIGHT-I, your posts are a complete joke, as usual. Sorry but changing the subject isn’t an effective way to defend your boy.
as for the rest of you, don’t get all worked up about this, i doubt this will even be a blip on the radar, this is considered old news by most and FNC if they even talk about this today will talk about CBS and their liberal bias and that talking about the past isn’t an effective way to fight the “War on terra”.
April 24th, 2006 at 11:22 am#98 Nova16,
Seixon: If Saddam had chemical weapons, where did he get them? According to the record, during the Iraq-Iran war, the US was only to happy to support and supply him with tactical and chemical material to defeat Iran. Wonder w