VIDEO: O’Reilly Attacks ThinkProgress As “Far Left Smear Website” That Published “Out-of-Context Garbage” About Tony Snow
VIDEO: O’Reilly Attacks ThinkProgress As “Far Left Smear Website” That Published “Out-of-Context Garbage” About Tony Snow
Last night, Bill O’Reilly attacked ThinkProgress for publishing a compilation of critical comments about President Bush by Tony Snow, shortly after it was reported that Snow would become White House Press Secretary. O’Reilly refers to ThinkProgress as a “far left smear site” that “spit out the usual out-of-context garbage.” Watch it:
O’Reilly didn’t provide any examples of quotes that ThinkProgress took out of context. He was probably just short on time.
O’Reilly also claims that ThinkProgress and other sites are hypocritical because we are “trying to portray Snow as anti-Bush” and say “he’s a shill for Bush.” The truth is Fox News has a right-wing bias. A lot of times that means defending the President, but sometimes it doesn’t. O’Reilly, of all people, should know how it works.
Transcript:
Caution, you are about to enter a no spin zone. “The Factor” begins right now.
Hi, I’m Bill O’Reilly reporting tonight from Washington. Thank you for watching us. Smearing Tony Snow – that’s the subject of this evening’s “Talking Points” Memo.
It took about 10 seconds for the far left smear websites to begin attacking Tony Snow, who today was appointed the new presidential spokesman. The smear sites spit out the usual out of context garbage, trying to portray Snow as anti-Bush because Tony did criticize the president on occasion, and at the same time saying he’s a shill for Bush. Not much logic in the smear world.
[Snip]
Also, the far left smear machine has a few so-called mainstream journalists in its pocket. So the propaganda often winds up in your newspaper.
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April 27th, 2006 at 10:59 amThe only bad publicity is NO publicity. I’m sure TP thanks Bill for the unsolicited shout-out.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:05 amthis isn’t a smear site, it’s a truth site… I wouldn’t expect Bill to know the difference…
April 27th, 2006 at 11:06 amGood work. It feels good to irritate the right wingers; especially O’Really.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:08 amBill O’Reilly is a pompous ass and he can go straight to Hell! He is a right wing douche bag!
April 27th, 2006 at 11:08 amI do wonder what an actual smear site looks like…
April 27th, 2006 at 11:09 amFar-left? Smear? Repeating words that have been documented as factually coming out of people’s own mouths are smears?Poor Bill. I bet Tony is glad he has his big brother Bill to stand up for him.Why does Bill have an absolute zero tolerance for legitimate criticism? Poor Bill, Poor Bill.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:10 amI read the Talking Points transcript and I do not see TP’s name mentioned anywhere.
Judd another example of your dishonesty.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:10 amHi Bill,, we knew you’ve been looking in here. Your trolls are failing ,by the way. Smear…you should know all about that word. KEITH OLBERMANN…..now go and sic faux security on me. My ph# is: 1-800-EAT S***.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:12 amI read the Talking Points transcript and I do not see TP’s name mentioned anywhere.
Judd another example of your dishonesty.
Comment by Ben — April 27, 2006 @ 11:10 am
Bill is that you?
April 27th, 2006 at 11:14 amWhy is Bill O’Reilly so afraid of Thinkprogress? Furthermore, if the comments by Snow were not true, why did President Bush have to make a point of saying that he had a talk with Snow about the comments?
April 27th, 2006 at 11:15 amInteresting that the ReichWing has Bill as a spokesmodel. He’s certainly not as sharp, though, as Bush’s granddaddy Prescott’s good friend Joseph Goebbels.
My, how times change…
April 27th, 2006 at 11:16 amPoor widdle Billy boy. Is he offended that we hurt his widdle friend Tony’s feelings?
Well, all I can say is……..
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April 27th, 2006 at 11:17 amFirst Media Matters, now Think Progress — poor Bill must really be feeling persecuted! “Out-of-context garbage”?? Puh-leeeeeeeeze…he would know all about that, wouldn’t he?
April 27th, 2006 at 11:19 amAlso of note is that when Snow was criticising Dubya, it was mosty (of not wholly) from a uber-conservative POV.
Snow’s no liberal (nor friend of liberals). He just has enough honesty (or a loose enough tongue) to point out what should be blindingly obvious: that Dubya’s truly a dickwad.
Cheers,
April 27th, 2006 at 11:20 amYes, but have you made his Media Operations That Traffic In Defamationâ„¢?
April 27th, 2006 at 11:20 amBill really outdid himself last night. First he disses ThinkProgress, then he disses a dead guy. The O’Reilly Rule is if Bill doesn’t like it, it is one or more of the following: a smear, far left, or secular.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:24 amEven worse, no one here has said “Merry Christmas” in the past several months. Godless heathens, I tells ya!
April 27th, 2006 at 11:24 amCongratulations! Think Progress has truly arrived!!
April 27th, 2006 at 11:27 amlistening to what bill o reiley has to say is like arguing with trolls. it’s a waste of time, and it’s not going to change anything. He speaks for idiots, so let idiots worry about what the jackass is saying.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:27 amLast night, Bill O’Reilly attacked ThinkProgress for publishing a compilation of critical comments about President Bush by Tony Snow,
Posted by Judd
Funny stuff Judd. Bill didn’t mention “Think Communist” by name at all. Neither did he mention any “compilation of critical comments”. He simply stated that the far left smear boys wasted no time getting down to their usual monkey business. So, you’re basically taking credit for being a left wing smear site and pretending that O’Reilly actually gave “Think Communist” a plug. I guess one out of two ain’t bad.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:29 amSmear: “To stain or attempt to destroy the reputation of; vilify”
Well that is certainly true most of the time here on ThinkProgress.org and that is because when you expose TRUTH about something that someone is LYING about out, then you are destroying the reputation of the person who is lying. You are proving that they are a liar, and being a liar equals having a bad reputation.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with trying to destroy the reputation of someone who is out there lying to the American people, who is making America less secure, who is harming humans worldwide, putting our soldier in danger. I have no problem at all destroying the reputation of someone like that.
But Bill does it all the time too. Simply speaking bad about Think Prgoress is in itself, a smear tactic. That is all he does towards those he disagrees with. And while trying to show that the person you are arguing with is wrong is not a bad thing, Bill MAKES it bad by doing it in a dishonest and mean way.
That is the difference between Bill and ThinkProgress. While both try and prove the other one wrong, ThinkProgress does it correctly with facts and without personal attacks. Bill on the other hand tries to make lies facts, and does so in an evil and mean way.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:30 amWell Judd that’s a big leap since the NYT is not The Factor.
That’s being dishonest. You do not know that O’Reilly was not referring to those other sites. You, however, knowingly post ” O’Reilly attacks ThinkProgress”. That’s called being dishonest which you apparently like to do with some regularity.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:30 amWell ThinkProgress and Judd should be happy, because Wolf Blitzer on CNN mentioned this blog yesterday and Bill O’Reilly on FOX News too! That means the politicians of both parties are most likely viewing the postings on TP today! Make your comments strong today everybody, because perhaps even Bush is reading these posts now!
April 27th, 2006 at 11:30 amWe were credited in the New York Times, the AP and others as the source for the list of quotes. So when he referred to the sites that published the quotes he was referring to us.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:31 amAs much as I can’t stand Fox or O’Reilly…he does have a point. I made posts myself wondering why one day, all my favorite sites are makign jokes about how Snow wouldn’t have to change his job description as BUsh shill, but the very next day they are all laughing at stories of how Snow attacked Bush in the past and called him an embarassment.
I am anti-Bush, anti-Fox and probably one of the far-lefties O’reilly keeps bashing…but even I felt it was hypocritical to portray Snow as both a Bush shill and a Bush basher. Especially since we all know Snow and everyone from Fox is basically just the Propoganda arm of the Republican party.
I didn’t bother to look up the original Snow comments that attacked Bush, but I’d bet that if I did I would find they were taken out of context and attacked Bush for not being right-wing enough, or enough of a militant dictator and not actual criticism for his policies being wrong or based on lies.
Having said all that. keep up the pressure on O’Reilly. It’s only a matter of time before McCarthy Jr. snaps and ends up in the mental insitution he’s avoided for too long now.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:32 amO’Reilly is afraid of web sites like thinkprogress.org. If he wasn’t, he would completely dismiss the topic. I think he is a closet liberal. He desperately wants to come out. When you internalize your true feelings and frustrations, it can have a negative effect on your health and attitute. Thats why he hates so much. He hates liberals because he can’t be one.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:35 amWe were credited in the New York Times, the AP and others as the source for the list of quotes. So when he referred to the sites that published the quotes he was referring to us.
Comment by Judd
So in other words you admit this is a far left smear site?
April 27th, 2006 at 11:36 amAs for the Bush loving trolls on here, Bush himself might be watching you fools on here today, so I-R-I you might get fired for posting stuff that embarasses Dubya Dunce?!
April 27th, 2006 at 11:37 amThe mayor of St. Paul, Minnesota was on O’ Really’s show. The mayor was caterwauling about how the offices of the city government were not allowing any display Easter decor.
O’ Really asked him when the mayor was going to change the name of St. Paul.
That’s a purdy good one.
But, go ahead and smear Fix News all you can, they deserve ‘fair and balanced’ smearing. O’ Really doesn’t miss a chance.
If you’re going to watch and hear propaganda, it might as well be the best, and that’s Fix News.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:40 amExcellent. Being trashed on O’Reilly’s show is an awesome badge of honor. Congratulations, ThinkProgress!! I am extremely proud of the work you have done!
April 27th, 2006 at 11:42 amJudd sounds like he stepped in it a little bit. It is comical watching him trying to defend his dishonesty. When was the last time Judd posted this often in a thread? That tells you all you need to know. Judd, I know that you know this was a little over the top. C’mon own up to it, your a big boy.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:42 amMake your comments strong today everybody, because perhaps even Bush is reading these posts now!
Comment by Jay Randal
OK, How’s this? -
Dear President Bush,
RESIGN NOW.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
America and most of the rest of the World.
– I guess that’s strong enough.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:42 amMy rating are dropping!!!…waaaaaaaaaaa …Bill O’wrongly
April 27th, 2006 at 11:44 am“I read the Talking Points transcript and I do not see TP’s name mentioned anywhere.”
Well hey, you’re right. But since ThinkProgress.org was one of the sites that “broke” the quotes, we have to assume that ThinkProgress is one of the sites that Bill is referring to.
But what really ticks me off is the fact that he provided zero examples whatsoever of what exactly was being taken out of context and how it was taken out of context. Wouldn’t it strengthen his case all the more if he just gave ONE example? All he has to do is take ten seconds to read a paragraph from a transcript of what Snow said, and that would show without a doubt how TP was taking the quote out of context. I haven’t watched ORielly in a while, but I’m sure I’ve seen him flash text on the screen and read it before. Why didn’t he do it now?
And why do you suppose he didn’t provide the consumers of his show with the name of the blog? He gets all up in arms about raiding the homes of people who say “Keith Olbermann” on his show, yet he won’t call the troops to head over to ThinkProgress to show them what kind of shameful “smearing” it is that we’re up to over here, and to expose us for whatever it is he thinks we are?
Why do you suppose that is? Because he’s “protecting” his viewers from whatever dishonesty he has them believe goes on here?
We on the left have an entire organization devoted to showing liberals what kind of lies and smears and hateful comments come out of the mouths of right wingers (http://www.mediamatters.org)– we intentionally expose ourselves to the drivel you righties spew, so we can collectively figure out how to combat your misinformation. And here Bill has devoted part of a segment of his show to call attention to what’s going on on the liberal blogs, and then provides zero context and zero examples for what he claims is so shameful.
You’d think he’d use this opportunity to give full context for how the “left wing smear sites” work, for the benefit of his consumers, so they don’t get fooled by whatever it is he claims it is we’re doing. Ironically, we’re dispensing truth and fact over here, which is exactly what ORielly doesn’t want his customers to know.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:46 amPost 34 > Thanks trueblue that is the spirit!!!
Post 33 > Ben we all know you work for Karl Rove, so tell him to screw off > lol.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:46 amI’m not sure Mr. O’Reilly will be reading this, but on the off-chance, I would like to take the opportunity to point out that Mr. O’Reilly is a laughable, shrieking twat.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:51 amI do wonder what an actual smear site looks like…
Comment by Ben #7
Yo Ben,
If you mean “pap” smear site…
…that’d be any photos of…
…mighty aphrodite (aka puny hermaphrodite)…
…or IRI…
April 27th, 2006 at 11:51 amJay,
I’m also sporting my
“I Never Thought I’d Miss Nixon” button.
Of course I always carry my Bush Countdown card with me:
April 27th, 2006 at 11:52 am998 days, 13 hrs, 32 sec…31…30…
Dave you want an example? Here are a couple from the WSJ.
One of the oddest responses to the Snow appointment comes from the Center for American Progress, Clintonite John Podesta’s think tank. The center’s ThinkProgress.org site has a chronicle of Snow quotes critical of George W. Bush. It’s not a terribly impressive list: Of 14 quotes, five are from before Bush even became president. Others are taken out of context, for example:
“George Bush has become something of an embarrassment.” [11/11/05]
The quote comes from a column on the Virginia governor’s election, in which Democrat Tim Kaine beat Republican Jerry Kilgore. Here it is in context:
And don’t forget about the Swagger Factor: A party that projects confidence and good cheer will thrash a Chicken Little party any day. Kilgore looked scared. Kaine acted like the cool kid on prom night.
The Swagger Factor has national repercussions because George W. Bush has lost his. His wavering conservatism has become an active concern among Republicans, who wish he would stop cowering under the bed and start fighting back against the likes of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Wilson. The newly passive George Bush has become something of an embarrassment. At the nadir of his campaign, Jerry Kilgore actively dodged having to share a stage with the commander in chief.
Two quotes (shown in boldface below) come from this March 17, 2006, column:
American conservatives have discovered the will-and-morale-sapping properties of political power. A Republican president and a Republican Congress have lost control of the federal budget and cannot resist the temptation to stop raiding the public fisc.
George W. Bush and his colleagues have become not merely the custodians of the largest government in the history of humankind, but also exponents of its vigorous expansion. The president has taken lately to crowing that the Medicare prescription drug benefit will cover 95 percent of all drug expenditures for some of the nation’s old and poor, and is telling younger Americans they have a duty to enroll their parents in the new regime of socialized pharmaceuticals.
April 27th, 2006 at 11:55 amCool post 40 > keep up the good work to get Bush to resign, or to force the Congress to impeach him! ( Yes, George, if you are reading this post > RESIGN for the good of our nation.)
April 27th, 2006 at 11:56 amYou can call me “far left” or “democrat” or “communist” I dont care. I used to be called a “republican”, a “christian goof ball”, etc… All I know is the TRUTH is the TRUTH and facts are facts… and SPIN is all LIES. So if you are a Clinton spinning or a O’Reilly it is all the same. The ONLY reason I keep coming back to this site is because I follow the links and read the stories and it keeps checking out. When I went to the conservative sites (which I do agree with on some subjects like gun control) all I get are half truths or twisted truths which I can see because I follow their links and what they link to either 1) does not match what the blog poster said at all (because they didnt really read it) OR 2) They clip out a small part of a sentence to totally change its meaning… which is a LIE.
I used to watch O’Reilly because I am a bit of a in your face straight shooter like he used to act like he was. But ever since Bush got in the WH he started acting like a crazed reichwinger. I can smell BS just fine and this site is the cleanest I have seen thus far. Red State, etc. are almost 100% BS. If they backed up their “facts” with anything other than “faith” I would give them a chance… but I am a no BS person so until O’Reilly gets back to calling a spade a spade HE is the X-Wing smear machine.
Stick to the truth Think Progress…
April 27th, 2006 at 11:57 am> Funny stuff Judd. Bill didn’t mention “Think Communist†by name at all
April 27th, 2006 at 12:01 pmA little off topic, but did anyone see the Doonsebury where Gary Trudea apologized to the first president Bush?
More on topic, I am not a fan of BO, but I don’t know that he is truly blogworthy. Media Matters does a fine job of pointing out the that he is a turd. I do think more importantly however, that he and the RNC must be worried, if they are choosing to spend time smearing left leaning blogs.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:02 pmthen that must make you a communist too…..
April 27th, 2006 at 12:02 pmObviously TP is far from being a smear site.
When the truth doesn’t agree with the ideology of these neo-cons it’s automatically wrong. Never would they question that they could be incorrect or misinformed.
Repubs never seek the truth. they assume they know everything.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:04 pmLol the Bush trolls are out in force today on this thread > Karl Rove is very upset that Tony Snow got exposed as a hypocrite on TP! Watch for the full attack on TP tonight on FOX News!
April 27th, 2006 at 12:07 pmWhatever happened to the Iranian Oil Borse? It was supposed to kick in sometime in the past 8 weeks right?
April 27th, 2006 at 12:08 pmYes, I can see how one post from Judd could be considered “often”
You’re a dumbass.
And so is Bill O’Rielly.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:10 pmGerald,
what is the Iranion Oil Borse?
April 27th, 2006 at 12:13 pmO’Reilly just get the hell out of the closet already. You fat pansy of a man.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:14 pmHey Bill, can’t you schedule a nice huning trip
April 27th, 2006 at 12:14 pmwith Big Dick? Maybe you could go after the Easter Bunny.
Come to think of it, the Boy King hasn’t been hunting in awhile,
either. I know you like threesomes, Bill. You could have
your phone sex on the way to the hunt, just to get you excited.
Make sure you stay to Cheney’s right…he doesn’t shoot as accurately to the left.
Shotgun-$23,000
Viagra -$125.00
Ammo -$25.00
Beer -$200.00
Seeing you finally shut up-PRICELESS
The Iranian Oil Borse is where they were supposed to be setting up an oil exchange that did not accept US dollars but Euros instead… the idea was that would destroy the American economy and that was the real reason the capitalists wanted to attack Iran…. the deadline passed and I never heard anything else about it… it was posted on this site several times..
April 27th, 2006 at 12:15 pmCNN only called us ‘left-leaning’. :)
April 27th, 2006 at 12:18 pmYou don’t know the first thing about the media do you.
As a PR person, I never ever mention the name of my competitors, even when a editor asks “And who would that be?”
Rule #1 of working with the media, never ever mention your competition.
Bill O’Rielly didn’t mention ThinkProgress by name, because people might come here and learn the truth about Bill O’Rielly.
And yes, I do mean that Bill O’Rielly is just a PR guy, not a journalist.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:20 pmI don’t think the US needs any foreign help in destroying our econmy. We seem to be doing that just fine on our own. I must have missed those threads, or didn’t comment. It is funny that it was dropped. I wonder what kind of pressure was exerted?
April 27th, 2006 at 12:22 pm#36 and all TPers I’m not gonna use the cliche about “assume”. It’s funny how self important you guys are. TP is one of many sites that hate Bill O’Reilly. Wait until you receive your proper reconition. Dreaming of being reconized by O’Reilly is probably the lamest thing ever. The 30 or so of you who post here aint that special. Hell 1/3 of the posters are CONS and they gotta be laughing at all of the self back patting.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:23 pmJay Randal, no one cares about TP. What are there like 50 regular posters? Another 50 occasional visitors? Think about it. If this site had any substance at all it would have many posters everyday. That does not happen. TP is like going to a VFW lodge late in the afternoon. Lots a griping and drinking going on but nothing really happens because of them and no gives a shit what they think anyway. It’s not that they are bad people but clearly they have issues.
I will say this, TP is very entertaining and a true window to the wacky world of the far left. But any thoughts about it being an influence on political thought is crazy. Like the liberal Susan Estrich said yesterday, America is 90% towards the middle and people on the fringes at both ends are of no consequence. TP is at the end of one of the fringes.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:24 pmWouldn’t WingNuts hire better PR men then Bill?
Maybe Republicans are taking the strong lead position on making America stupid. Who would’ve thought…
April 27th, 2006 at 12:25 pmYou got a couple of extra digits there. It should read like this:
April 27th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
Lol post 58 Big Hal > where did Karl Rove dig you up? I bet you are one of the other Bush trolls on here who got a NEW screenname > try harder you Bush dummy!
April 27th, 2006 at 12:28 pm#36 Dave M.,
Nicely put. Good post. And I agree completely that the absolute last thing that O’Reilly wants is for his loyal viewers and listeners to find out the truth, especially about the things he says.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:28 pmYes, I can see how one post from Judd could be considered “oftenâ€
Hey Fudge Boy, Judd posted more than once. I guess your counting skills are little lacking. I apologize if in advance if you are retarded. I didn’t know.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:29 pmMore republican support of our veterans. Way to go.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:29 pm(why does ben lower him/her self by posting here?)
April 27th, 2006 at 12:32 pm#61 #62 today there are more cons posting that libs. the way its going if O’Reilly ACTUALLY mentions TP by name it will become a right wing site in a week.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:32 pm..wait a minute…how long has o’jerkoff been able to read? his home schooling is making amazing progress!
just think: a year ago he didn’t even know what a falafel was…
April 27th, 2006 at 12:32 pmJust keep telling yourself, that you are moderate, and we are all far left loonies. Pretty soon you will find otu what a minority you are in.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:33 pmPost 59 Ben > there are a lot of readers of TP threads that never post comments, but just visit the site to learn information! If this site is so un-important as you claim, then WHY are you wasting your time on here huh? Why are other Bush loving trolls so concerned about what we post on TP threads? ThinkProgress is one of the best progressive blogs on the Internet with an easy to use posting system > very easy to read too!
Most Americans are left of center, so Susan is an idiot > lol.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:35 pmI will say this, TP is very entertaining and a true window to the wacky world of the far left. But any thoughts about it being an influence on political thought is crazy. Like the liberal Susan Estrich said yesterday, America is 90% towards the middle and people on the fringes at both ends are of no consequence. TP is at the end of one of the fringes.
Comment by Ben
My mother is a far right, church going, republican-just-because-her-friends-are person. Yesterday as I was showing her a long list of the “left” truths she said … I dont support that stuff nor Bush. She said a girl at her church the other day had found out that Bush and friends “have something to do with oil companies and maybe that is why they did the Iraq war” …. I know that it seems silly to TPers that someone could just NOW start coming to that realization… BUT keep in mind these people almost NEVER watch the news and only go off of hersay and rumor and “faith”. I at first was shocked someone could be so closed off from the world… but then I felted encouraged… it might have taken them 6 years to finally see that OIL has something to do with this republican regeime, but they are finally coming around to it… AND THEY DONT LIKE IT. I showed her pictues of all the dead Iraqi children I have and she said that abortion is wrong, but that she thinks killing those children in HER name was worse and that she feels the republicans are using abortion to trick people like her….
April 27th, 2006 at 12:35 pm#59 You really must be on the “facist area” of the political scale if you think that TP is “the wacky world of the far left” You need to get out more.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:36 pm#54 Gerald, the Iranian Oil Bourse is experiencing various delays, political and technical… it seems the start date of March 20,2006 you mention was hyped by conspricay theorists and repeated as gospel in the blogosphere (I am sure I linked to that date myself).
April 27th, 2006 at 12:37 pmSo Bill O’Reilly really believes what Snow had to say about GWBush? If that’s what he’s implying, then come out and say it outright. BO’R just cna’t resist smearing “liberals”. It’s nice to know that TS won’t be anywhere near as “candid” as PS as he was on FNC, for he’s already denying everything bad he said about W.
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April 27th, 2006 at 12:39 pm#54 Gerald, the Iranian Oil Bourse is experiencing various delays, political and technical… it seems the start date of March 20,2006 you mention was hyped by conspricay theorists and repeated as gospel in the blogosphere (I am sure I linked to that date myself).
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Thanks… I am looking into it more myself now …thanks again. Wow … left wing wackos looking up facts… I thought wackos didnt do things like that… well when the whole world is wackos except YOU Ben ….what does that make YOU?
April 27th, 2006 at 12:41 pmWell, O’Rightly isn’t going to change his tune, he is committed to being a wingnut. He recognizes TP as being completely opposite to his stance, which is of course true, thank God, and a feather in the TP cap. When the devil points you out as his mortal enemy, you know you’re on the right track.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:42 pmJR – I said TP was entertaining.
GG – if you want to use your mother then that is your business. By the way did you have any pictures of the 3,000 dead Americans from the WTC, PA or the Pentagon from 9/11? See how you guys leave out the parts you need to ignore?
April 27th, 2006 at 12:43 pmReading the article that Terry posted, it doesn’t sound like the Bourse is in good shape, and it doesn’t sound like a workable plan. Of course if our government continues to spend like drunket sailors in Bangkok it just might.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:44 pmSomeone should send Bill this photo of Snow from high school, and the results of his school poll that labeled him “by far the most liberal”
http://miaculpa.blogspot.com/2006/04/tony-snow-remembered-by-his-hometown.html
April 27th, 2006 at 12:46 pmBottom line: This site is gettin’ some real play, and the Right wishes thier sites would get the same play or better.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:47 pmGG – if you want to use your mother then that is your business. By the way did you have any pictures of the 3,000 dead Americans from the WTC, PA or the Pentagon from 9/11? See how you guys leave out the parts you need to ignore?
Comment by Ben
I didnt leave that out no… I showed her info about how the Saudis did it not Iraq and then showed her pictures of Bush holding hands with the Saudis … she didnt seem to like that either >-)
April 27th, 2006 at 12:48 pmBen what does 9/11 have to do with GG saying his church going mother is not happy with the direction Bush has taken with this country?
Fact:
Saddam did not have WMD’s
Saddam did not have ties to Al Qaidi
Saddam did not plan, fund or in anway assist Al Qaidi with the 9/11 attack
Osama Bin Laden is still on the loose and hiding from US troops.
the terrorist Hijackers were mostly from Saudi Arabia.
Those are facts. You are using fear and propoganda to prop up Bush and the war in Iraq. It is very telling that even the church going evangelicals, are no longer supporting Bush. Apperantly even they have limits.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:48 pm#29 – “So in other words you admit this is a far left smear site?”
How about this: you admit that you’re a racist, fascist, hypocritical, partisan bloviator.
Once you come to grips with the truth about you, we’ll “admit” to the lies about this web site.
Sound like a plan to you???
It’s fair! You believe the lies about Pres. Bush (he is /they are good for the economy, he is /they are better at fighting “terra”, he is /they are not flip-floppers) while you spread obvious lies about Dems/Progs (communist, liars, flip-floppers). So, it’s alright to tell the truth about you if we admit to “lies” about us.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:48 pmSomeone should send Bill this photo of Snow from high school, and the results of his school poll that labeled him “by far the most liberalâ€
http://miaculpa.blogspot.com/ 2006/ 04/ tony-snow-remembered-by-his-hometown.html
Comment by Desi
RED ALERT! RED ALERT! He has long hair .. he is a communist! Everyone tell RedState.org we got a commie in the WH!!!!
April 27th, 2006 at 12:50 pmFrom that picture, I am guessing Snow knows how to light a bong.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:52 pmBen what does 9/11 have to do with GG saying his church going mother is not happy with the direction Bush has taken with this country?
Are you just stupid or what? He said I showed her pictues of all the dead Iraqi children
Saddam had WMD’s – fact
April 27th, 2006 at 12:53 pmSaddam had meetings with Al Queda – fact
O’Reilly Attacks ThinkProgress As “Far Left Smear Website†That Published “Out-of-Context Garbageâ€
Bill O’Rielly, Chief Dipshit and Loudmouthed Slander Merchant of Faux News.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but is this the same Bill O’Reilly who slandered and tried every tactic available to smear Andrea Mackris after she filed a lawsuit claiming that he subjected her to repeated instances of sexual harassment, filthy talk, and spoke often to her about phone sex, vibrators, threesomes, masturbation, the loss of his virginity, and sexual fantasies? I mean, the one who proclaimed she was the slanderer and smear merchant to the bitter end before he found out she had recordings of him? The guy who then guiltily settled out of court for an undisclosed sum and vowed never to talk about it again?
Sorry, Bill, but your credibility just absolutely sucks, PAL. Maybe you ought stick to something you think you are good at—-like going after one of Tony Snowjob’s unemployed Fox News secretaries.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:54 pmFudge Boy are you stupid also? You said Judd posted once. That was wrong. Stop being this stupid, please.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:56 pmThose are facts. You are using fear and propoganda to prop up Bush and the war in Iraq. It is very telling that even the church going evangelicals, are no longer supporting Bush. Apperantly even they have limits.
Comment by Krazny
My mother also started talking about how she and some church people went to Guatemala to help the poor. There she learned about all these horrible things that happened to them and how they liked the church people because they came to help… she was trying to defend the christian right with her example…. I then showed her the details of Iran-Contra… she remembered seeing Oliver North on TV but didnt know what it was about …so I showed her…. she was sickened …she met those poor people and had empathy for them… she could not believe Republicans had helped get those people murdered….
Her lips flap a million miles a second … a seed has been planted… and she will tell others… Ben your days are numbered… go back to the end of the line where you belong.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:56 pmGG – I would say your days were numbered but the truth is they never started in the first place.
April 27th, 2006 at 12:58 pmBoy ThinkProgress has struck a nerve on outing Tony Snow as a two face hypocrite! Karl Rove had to send in new trolls in here to try to smear all of us > lol. I bet Hannity on FOX tonight calls us sissies or gurly-men like fat head Arnold in California does, or O’Reilly tonight might call us Osama’s friends > lol. You Bush lovers make me laugh!
April 27th, 2006 at 12:59 pm” TP Far Left” ? I guess it may seem so from way way over there on the Hitler Right? From that far to the right you can’t even see the true left.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:01 pmJay,
Make that new “troll”
Ben, i R i (I-RIGHT-I) and mark have all been here before. Big Hal is the only new name and that is probably just wwallace.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:01 pmWhy yes Ben you are right Saddam had WMD’s before the first Gulf war. WMD’s sold to him by US companies. I am guessing by your statements, that you believe that Saddam transferred all of his WMD’s to Syria, or Iran before the start of the Gulf War II. The available evidence suggest that you are dead wrong. The facts and evidence also show that you are wrong concerning any connection Saddam had to Al Qaidi. If you like I could look the relevant portions of the 9/11 commission report, and reports from reputable news organizations around the world. If you got your news from places besides redstate.org, and poweline you would be familiar with current events.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:02 pmYou’d think he’d use this opportunity to give full context for how the “left wing smear sites†work, for the benefit of his consumers, so they don’t get fooled by whatever it is he claims it is we’re doing. Ironically, we’re dispensing truth and fact over here, which is exactly what ORielly doesn’t want his customers to know.
Comment by Dave M. — April 27, 2006 @ 11:46 am
You’d think, but that’s exactly what Bill and the other Repubs want. They want the public fooled. They want to tell the public what to think, and for the most part during the last 5 or so years, the public hasn’t disappointed them. I saw the same thing in last year’s VA governor race. I live near the TN/VA border. Jerry Kilgore accused Tim Kaine of making fun of his (Kilgore’s) country accent during a public statement. He even posted an article in his Press Release section about this. Only one thing, though…Kilgore conveniently left out the quote of what Kaine allegedly said. All he had was comments from his press secretary and Larry Sabato about what a terrible thing it was. Kaine on the other had did post the quote and proved there was nothing about it that even remotely made refernece to Kilgore’s accent. Guess what, though? People in VA bought it. They were quoted in news articles and wrote letters to the editor about how terrible Kaine was.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:02 pm#87 – how about some evidence, Ben?
April 27th, 2006 at 1:03 pmPost 94 you are probably correct Spudge > Ben I have not noticed before, I-R-I has changed his screenname a bit, Mark I just never paid attention to I guess, and Big Hal is new name but probably wwalace?!
April 27th, 2006 at 1:06 pm#95, thanks Krazny. Still we may see Ben smear poo all over his credibility if we wait a while. Oh and Ben, Freerepublic pages don’t count.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:07 pmI guess one out of two ain’t bad.
Comment by i R i — April 27, 2006 @ 11:29 am
What’s with the make-over?
April 27th, 2006 at 1:08 pmo’moron, during his rant:
how does one explain the fact that the MEDIA has not had one ONE story on the CIA leaker, Drumheller, on 60 minutes last week?
how does one explain the fact that the MEDIA has not had one ONE story on Rice being subpoened for leaking national security secrets to two israeli lobbyists?
i think media matters covered the first case yesterday; i did a lexis/nexis on the rice subpoena last night and ONLY found the original AP and the UPI story. NO ONE ELSE in THE LIBERAL MEDIA discussed it.
fcuk bush
April 27th, 2006 at 1:10 pmFudge Boy are you stupid also? You said Judd posted once. That was wrong. Stop being this stupid, please.
Comment by Ben — April 27, 2006 @ 12:56 pm
Unlike you, Ben, Spudge can actually count to one. Which is the number of comments Judd has posted on this thread (#26 if you need to see it). Please stop being this stupid, unless you just can’t help yourself.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:11 pmThey probably finally banned his racist ass. They need to delete his posts too.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:12 pmshe feels the republicans are using abortion to trick people like her….
Comment by Gerald Gibson — April 27, 2006 @ 12:35 pm
Gerald, sounds a bit like my mom. She’s a Republican because she’s always been a Republican, even though she is pro-choice, pro-equality, pro-gay marriage, and progressive, while her local FOX affliate does nothing to inform her to the contrary. She says that I don’t watch ‘real news’ because I get mine off the internet, or watch CNN on occasion. But. like your mom, she starting to catch on and won’t directly bash Bush, but is starting to bash the Administration in general.
There must be hope if the usual die-hards are starting to turn. Good sign…
April 27th, 2006 at 1:15 pmI always call I-Right-I > I-R-I > so when he got removed by TP I guess he decided to use my name for him > lol. He has NOT posted on this thread since I told him earlier that Bush might be reading the posts today!
April 27th, 2006 at 1:16 pmYou said Judd posted once. That was wrong. Stop being this stupid, please.
Comment by Ben — April 27, 2006 @ 12:56 pm
If you are unable to perform the simplest of tasks, such as counting how many times Judd has posted in the thread (1), there is no reason for the rest of us to make much of your opinions on Hussein’s WMDs (he didn’t have them, even Pres Bush has acknowledged that much).
April 27th, 2006 at 1:18 pmHey subordinate female co-workers at FOX! Turn off your recorders first please.And I do trust you.Wink.Now, If I SMEAR a filafel all over my tall gorgeous body will you lick it off?
April 27th, 2006 at 1:18 pmHave fun all I gotta go > keep up the good work Judd you got FOX News to notice your site!
April 27th, 2006 at 1:19 pmI think what is important is to look at Mr. Snow’s comments instead of allowing O’Rielly to be his spokesman. Yesterday TP posted a transcript of Brit Hume asking Tony about his comments regarding the President.
Did Tony scream, “Out of context! Out of context!!”? Ummm…no. He basically said that he shouldn’t have made the comments. Simple enough.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:28 pmJudd – O’Reilly was just trying to return the compliment! When he named “The Center for American Progress” as being a far-left smear site he didn’t say anything defamatory or slanderous. (The truth is a perfect defense against such an allegation.) For as much time and bytes Think Pessimism spends on Fox News, I was starting to think you guys owned some of Rupert Murdoch’s News Corps stock.
Can you tell me how outraged the far left and the DNC were when George Stephanopolous, Paul Begala and James Carville went to their respective television positions?? Or when Dan Blather posed as “hard news” the obvious forgeries re: GWB Air National Guard service?? Being as fair and balanced as TP isn’t, I won’t waste my time looking further for your glaring inconsistencies.
(I’m so looking forward to Tony Snow answering one of Helen Thomas’ “questions”. I haven’t quite figured out why that hag shows up to a news conference – she has already decided what to write and when to write it. It’s truly a waste of gas and wig pins getting that old gal to the White House.)
April 27th, 2006 at 1:29 pmOr when Dan Blather posed as “hard news†the obvious forgeries re: GWB Air National Guard service?? Being as fair and balanced as TP isn’t, I won’t waste my time looking further for your glaring inconsistencies.
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Defending against swift boating is not being “left”. Bush opened that can of worms and he derserved every bite he was forced to eat. He should be embarressed of letting others go to die in Vietnam while he used his daddies money to live.
Once again being truthful is not being left … that is why you are always twisted into knots MA. You cannot see that the far left truely does make up crazy stuff and so does the far right. And when someone tells the truth and you dont like it you try to label it as far-XXX whatever when in reality YOU are the one that is far-OUT and theirfore offended by the truth.
Far-left in America is everything from “flowerpower to capitalists are pigs!”
Being truthful and progressive does not include “flowerpower to capitalists are pigs!” … it includes “business == good … greedy business == bad” and “preemptive war == evil … defending oneself is honorable”
Can you tell the difference? By your posts it appears not.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:41 pmSo, I gues the trolls had to leave when the math (counting to 1) came into play.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:41 pmSo, I gues the trolls had to leave when the math (counting to 1) came into play.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
Lets see… important things in life lets list them…
1) ME! (I love me because I am a reichwinger and there is nothing more special)
April 27th, 2006 at 1:44 pm…um
….um
1) ME!
Spudge,
When you have only one straw left, and that one is yanked from your hand, it is best to leave.
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April 27th, 2006 at 1:52 pm#110
Outraged? Who says we are outraged? Over Tony Snow going to work for Bush? I say more power to him. I think it’s quite funny. Comical, even. Kinda like a President Kerry hiring Zell Miller to be Press Secretary.
Oh, and the examples you provide…interesting. Those three gentlemen who worked for the Clinton admin didn’t go on their respective TV shows and trash Clinton (well, not that I know of). Now, if they had gone to work for Fox, then we’d have been outraged.
A better choice for you to use, MA, would have been Dick Morris. Now there’s a class act.
Oh, and as far as I know, Tony Snow himself hasn’t said anything about being taken out of context. He hasn’t complained about the left-wing media organizing a smear campaign against him. He hasn’t tried denying that he made the comments (unlike some Republicans have done when they deny comments that are caught on tape), and has basically said that he shouldn’t have said them. Fair enough.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:02 pmSpudge, by your count the site draws less than 40 posters. about the same amount of viewers ac Olberman.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:12 pmBig Hal,
By your count, you are a dumbass. You said there were more cons than libs. You were wrong. And your last comment is just a spin move. Moron. As has been pointed out, not everybody that comes here posts. Most people don’t like having to deal with you trolls. I don’t mind pointing out just how stupid you guys are. Try again.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:17 pm“He should be embarressed of letting others go to die in Vietnam…” – Gerald Gibson
****Or should I call you “Judd” Gibson – how very sweet you are to defend the honourable Judd!!! BTW, your comments about letting others die weren’t discussing the brave former President Clinton who managed to serve out the Viet Nam war in the Soviet Union and England???
But really Gerald, I think you are searching (vainly,I might add) just to have me come out and play with you!
April 27th, 2006 at 2:18 pmSo, I gues the trolls had to leave when the math (counting to 1) came into play.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 27, 2006 @ 1:41 pm
Sorry FudgeBoy but I had to leave for a little while. Judd has removed one of his previous posts. He responded to my post #9 by claiming that the NYT had made statements. Then I responded with #24. But good ole Judd being the dishonest person that he is removed his incorrect post because it revealed his dishonesty. Then he posted #26 which is the one he wanted to keep. Hence you can only count one now.
Let’s see if Judd is honest enoughto acknowledge that he removed his post. I doubt it.
You guys just keep stepping in your own pile. So stupid and so entertaining.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:20 pmLOL Aprodite
Clinton did skip out of vietnam service by heading to the UK, but unlike Bush he didn’t try to talk up his military experiance. On the other hand Al Gore was there as a reporter if I remember correctly, which is more then I can say for many of the republican chickenhawks.
Rush Limbaugh
April 27th, 2006 at 2:25 pmDick Cheney
Paul Wolfowitz
Donald Rumsfeld
George W. Bush
etc
etc
Ben,
You’ve got your panties in a twist over one or two posts?!
You need a hobby, pal.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:25 pmtrueblue, I don’t think I am the one with the panties problem. Maybe you should learn to read.
Fudge Boy are you stupid also? You said Judd posted once. That was wrong. Stop being this stupid, please.
Comment by Ben — April 27, 2006 @ 12:56 pm
Unlike you, Ben, Spudge can actually count to one. Which is the number of comments Judd has posted on this thread (#26 if you need to see it). Please stop being this stupid, unless you just can’t help yourself.
Comment by bluefish — April 27, 2006 @ 1:11 pm
You said Judd posted once. That was wrong. Stop being this stupid, please.
Comment by Ben — April 27, 2006 @ 12:56 pm
If you are unable to perform the simplest of tasks, such as counting how many times Judd has posted in the thread (1), there is no reason for the rest of us to make much of your opinions on Hussein’s WMDs (he didn’t have them, even Pres Bush has acknowledged that much).
Comment by Gregor Samsa — April 27, 2006 @ 1:18 pm
So, I gues the trolls had to leave when the math (counting to 1) came into play.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 27, 2006 @ 1:41 pm
So, I gues the trolls had to leave when the math (counting to 1) came into play.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
Lets see… important things in life lets list them…
1) ME! (I love me because I am a reichwinger and there is nothing more special)
…um
….um
1) ME!
Comment by Gerald Gibson — April 27, 2006 @ 1:44 pm
Spudge,
When you have only one straw left, and that one is yanked from your hand, it is best to leave.
Comment by Krazny — April 27, 2006 @ 1:47 pm
Yet again stepping in more of your own pile. Is there any end to your stupidity?
April 27th, 2006 at 2:33 pmJeez Ben get a sense of humour.
its just a little freindly ribbing.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:35 pmClaiming that the NYT mentioned ThinkProgress is NOT incorrect. It would only be incorrect for those of you righties that have no deductive reasoning.
I have the e-mail in my inbox. The blog is ThinkProgress.
The New York Times is clearly talking about ThinkProgress. Bill O’Rielly’s “Talking Points” Memo will not state ThinkProgress by name as is explained in my post #56.
Get a clue moron.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:40 pmyet Benji can call Judd dishonest and crap all over the posters and we are the problem?
April 27th, 2006 at 2:41 pmWhat kind of mentality is that? What developmental stage are you stuck in?
When you leave the board, our stupidity will be gone.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:42 pmLOL!
April 27th, 2006 at 2:43 pmGood one!
truebs, you guys just have a problem with truth and facts.
Why did Judd remove his post? Why?
Maybe Judd would like to come on here and tell us why himself. I don’t think he will because removing his post was consistent with him being dishonest. This site is frequently dishonest and misleading.
So Judd, tell us, did you remove your previous post? Unless you are going to lie, tell us why? Why would you need to remove your post?
April 27th, 2006 at 2:45 pmI am starting to feel sorry for the trolls… everytime they think they got one on somebody they get smacked down… it must hurt.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:47 pmBen,
You are the one claiming Saddam had connections to Al Qeada, and 9/11, and that he had WMD’s in his posession before the start of GWII.
Please get your facts straight before you tell us we are dishonest and unfactual.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:49 pmFocus, Benji,
We’re talking about O’Reilly.
NOT Judd.
NOT about “was it one post or two.”
BFD, already!
Get back on topic or go away, please.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:49 pm#87 – “Saddam had WMD’s – fact”
“HAD” is the key word. And that’s only because Pres. Reagan sold them to him. By the time Pres. Bush started the war, Saddam had NO WMD’s, NO WMD programs, and NO WMD capability. And THAT is a fact.
“Saddam had meetings with Al Queda – fact ”
I guess you could call this a “fact”. Saddam told Usama bin Laden to never come into his country. Usama said that Saddam was a s bad as America because Iraq allowed women to vote, go to school, and they didn’t have to wear the burkha. The “meetings” consisted of Saddam saying “Stay the hell out of my country! America already wants to kill me, I don’t need you giving them any more ammo to come after me!” And THAT is a fact.
But, believe all the lies you want, Ben. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:50 pmIs Ben seeing double? I only see one Judd post.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:51 pmWho cares, other than you.
There was nothing wrong with it, as has been pointed out to you.
Nobody cares.
Answer this then:
WHY WERE TONY SNOW’S POSTS REMOVED FROM FREE REPUBLIC YESTERDAY?
April 27th, 2006 at 2:51 pm#134
there was a second post from Judd breifly. I am unsure why Ben has latched onto it so much. I think it is his last straw. He is trying to bolster a claim that Judd, and by extension, Think Progress and all progressive posters are dishonest.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:53 pm#110 – “she has already decided what to write and when to write it”
No, I don’t think she works for Faux News. That’s the only place where you already know what they’re going to say: anything to support the failed policies of the Republicans, despite (or in-spite of) the truth.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:54 pmI am unsure why Ben has latched onto it so much. I think it is his last straw.
Comment by Krazny
He’s latched on either because he’s stuck in his Oral Phase, or perhaps with the stubborness with which he is holding on to it, his Anal Phase.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:57 pmBen, Spudge is right. It doesn’t matter. As I posted earlier, Tony Snow, who is the one, after all, who made the various comments about Bush, apparently doesn’t have any issues with his comments being taken out of context.
That pretty much makes O’Rielly a boob.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:58 pmLast night, Bill O’Reilly attacked ThinkProgress for publishing a compilation of critical comments about President Bush by Tony Snow,
Posted by Judd
Funny stuff Judd. Bill didn’t mention “Think Communist†by name at all. Neither did he mention any “compilation of critical commentsâ€. He simply stated that the far left smear boys wasted no time getting down to their usual monkey business. So, you’re basically taking credit for being a left wing smear site and pretending that O’Reilly actually gave “Think Communist†a plug. I guess one out of two ain’t bad.
I read the Talking Points transcript and I do not see TP’s name mentioned anywhere.
Judd another example of your dishonesty.
Well Judd that’s a big leap since the NYT is not The Factor.
That’s being dishonest. You do not know that O’Reilly was not referring to those other sites. You, however, knowingly post †O’Reilly attacks ThinkProgressâ€. That’s called being dishonest which you apparently like to do with some regularity.
There is your back on topic. TP stated a lie. They do it frequently. Like I said Judd will not acknowledge the dishonesty nor that he removed one of his own post which was dishonest.
April 27th, 2006 at 2:58 pmBen,
You have been proven to be both incorrect and stupid. Reposting your incorrect statments and stupidity doesn’t help your cause.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:00 pmWait…just so my comments are not taken out of context, I should have said that Tony isn’t making any claims that his comments were taken out of context.
And I still say that O’Reilly is a boob.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:03 pmbill,bill,bill you must be getting paid for saying all that BS, its amazing hearing O’reilly lie like that hes talented.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:03 pmBILL THE SHILL.
Someone needs to shut him up!
April 27th, 2006 at 3:07 pmFudgeBoy, you guys are too easy. You get your asses kicked on this topic because the title was a lie. It is too funny that TP thinks that it has a profile that is high. It’s a joke. Like I said 50 posters max. There are plenty of sites that are credible. This is not one of them. You do not earn credibility by running stories with dishonest titles.
The entertainment here is priceless because people wonder where the crazies like Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan come from. They need only to read the threads here to know.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:07 pmNumber 23 – RIGHT ON!!!
April 27th, 2006 at 3:11 pmBen, Willard is calling.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:11 pmBen,
It is you that have been bitch slapped up and down one side of this thread to the other. There is no lie and that has been proven time and again. Have fun in the loony farm when they finally catch you. Retard.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:12 pmOh and your use of FudgeBoy is showing your homosexuality. Better not let I-RIGHT-I see that kind of talk or he will want to join in.
How old are you?
April 27th, 2006 at 3:14 pmO’Liely doesn’t need facts to support what he says. He says what he knows his ill-informed, brainwashed viewers of Fox will hear. They don’t need facts either – they simply take the big head’s word for it because he’s “looking out for them.” If he had to back up his assertions with facts, he would lose his show.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:15 pmHe and his ilk are afraid of the “liberals” who are gaining strength daily, while his own beloved BushCo is going down the toilet. When BushCo is gone, will O’Liely have much of an audience? When BushCo is defending itself in court, BO will blame the courts, the justice system, Fitzgerald, Democrats, and Clinton- and his audience will consist only of the IRIs and MAs and wwallaces and Neds of the country.
This is too funny. In law there is a saying….if the facts are on your side you argue the facts, if the law is on your side you argue the law, if neither are on your side you speak very loudly.
That’s what these trolls are doing. They have an incompetent party topped by an incompetent VP and Pres. They are liars, theives and murderers and traitors.
Sooooooo to change the subject let’s just call Judd a liar. Lots of times too. That will get the whole country so angry they won’t notice all of the corruption in the republican party. They will forget about our troops dying in Iraq for oil, they will forget that the WH is spying on Americans and refuse oversight to assure they are not spying on innocent Americans. Just to name a few of this administrations crimes.
They are sad, little people who are so frightened because their party is going to lose everything in November they don’t know what to do.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:16 pmSo if O’Rielly wasn’t referring to TP as one of the far-left smear sites, Ben, then which ones do you think he was referring to, since apparently he didn’t make specific references at all?
April 27th, 2006 at 3:16 pmOh and your use of FudgeBoy is showing your homosexuality.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
…….”not that there’s anything wrong with that……” ;-)
April 27th, 2006 at 3:18 pm(nod to Seinfeld)
O’reilly must be getting paid to say all that BS, he has been saying all this shit for so long that i think hes starting to believe it. It doesnt seem to make a difference in anything, telling the truth that is. ive seen documentary after documentary exposing the truth about our so called great country.if great is another word for stupidity then this is the greatest country ever in the history of greatness.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:19 pmApparently “out of context” to Bill O’Reilly means “someone else was giving him a paycheck at the time”.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:23 pm“Mental” Ben- Chill buddy! You’re gonna give yourself a heart attack!! Your harping about TP, when you claim that we are little more than a speck of dust in the universe, seems excessive, like you are trying to convince YOURSELF, rather than us. Perhaps you would feel better if you went to a more hospitable (to your beliefs) site, where you will get the validation you are so desperately seeking. Good luck.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:28 pmSo, Ben, in other words, Judd initially posted a whopping TWICE. My god, what’s this site coming to? Such corruption on a blog–impeach him!
April 27th, 2006 at 3:31 pmIt is interesting that “Ben” uses the word “crazies” to refer to people like Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore.
What is “crazy” about anything either of them has done? Is dissent in and of itself “crazy”?
Both Moore and Sheehan have always struck me as otherwise reasonable, even mundane humans who have been profoundly moved by what has happened around (and in Sheehan’s case, to) them — moved enough to take action. Is taking action “crazy”? Then give me more “crazies,” please, and fewer of those people who prefer to watch /American Idol/ and let Dumbya and his cohorts urinate on the Constitution.
/I/ reserve the word crazy, rather, for people like O’Reilly (and like “Ben,” I suppose) who hebephrenically keep repeating the same hysterical, tired crap no matter what actual evidence is presented to them. THAT is acting like a psychotic robot – Moore and Sheehan, on the other hand, seem like human beings. Fallible? Yup. Crazy? Nah.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:36 pmwhat really gets me is when the rebulicans make their speeches and they discredit everything that has been said epescaily when it contradicts the right wing agenda, oh like: “theres no credible efidence for global warming”, or “we went to iraq to set the people free, to give them a democracy”. Maybe if we all pretend its not happenig it will just go away on its own, oh wait bush already tried that.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:36 pmBen,
Bill O’Reilly has made it clear in the past that he considers both http://www.thinkprogress.org and http://www.mediamatters.org to be “left-wing smear sites”. All they do is repeat what he says and prove why it’s wrong. He doesn’t bother repeating their names each time he attacks them because he doesn’t want people going to their sites and seeing for themselves that O’Reilly has been proven wrong yet again. So he lumps them all into this grand all-inclusive “left-wing smear sites” name, but he’s primarily referrring to sites funded in whole or in part by George Soros, with whom he apparently has big problems. He should really be saving his wrath toward Mr. Soros for Richard Mellon Scaife, who is one of those billionaire conservatives who, I guess, hated FDR so much.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:37 pmI went to Camp Casey last August (the only good thing about living in Texas). Ms. Sheehan was so nice and gracious. The only thing I could say was “God Bless You” because I was so choked up. I am a mom and I cannot even begin to imagine what she has gone through but she has so much courage to take a stand. She is not crazy, she is mad. You should know never to piss off a mom!
April 27th, 2006 at 3:41 pmYeah she sounds real nice:
Mother Sheehan, in an effort to bolster her victim status, complains that her hometown mortuary (Vacaville, CA) screwed her son Casey over on the funeral arrangments. That poor woman–so much sadness and once again victimized by the Republican establishment!
Except it isn’t true.
Nadeau expressed hurt and disbelief at Sheehan’s comments. He said that the amount of money the military gave the mortuary for Casey’s funeral service and cemetery arrangements didn’t even come close to covering the costs.
“Several kind citizens made donations,” said Nadeau. “I absorbed the rest.”
This was not the only way in which he went above and beyond his responsibilities following Casey’s death, said Nadeau. He also provided a stretch limousine and a driver at his expense, he said, and invited the family to go to the airport with him so that he could accompany them. None of this was required, said Nadeau.
“Having known the Sheehan family for many years through St. Mary’s Catholic Church where Ms. Sheehan had previously been the youth director, it was my desire to provide care and dignity to Casey and the family. I did this in every respect.”
Nadeau also refuted Sheehan’s statement that the mortuary finally paid the cemetery only after the family threatened to bring the story to the media.
“This never happened,” said Nadeau. “I would stop by the family home as I do most families’ homes and check with them on necessary needs, etc.”
Nadeau said the military provided his mortuary $5,736 in funding to pay for the funeral service and cemetery arrangements. The funding came in May 2004, said Nadeau, and he paid the cemetery as soon as the costs had been totaled and the donations received.
In a phone call Monday, Sheehan stood by her allegations. Sheehan also said that Casey’s grave site was now being handled by her soon-to-be ex-husband Patrick.
Patrick Sheehan said Monday that the small plaque currently marking Casey’s grave is something all graves receive before a headstone is constructed. Casey’s headstone is in the works, he said, and is being built by a local monument company.
Victim politics is the ultimate Us-vs-Them paradigm and one wrong isn’t enough to maintain the tension necessary for a political movement–no, you’ve got to throw fresh indignities into the hopper on a regular basis to stoke the fires of hatred. Since the cause is just, the ends are also, so lying is OK, even if it hurts people who actually went out of their way to help you.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:49 pmAnother fine post from Freerepublic Ben?
It is intersting that instead of linking the article you simply cut and paste it from whatever right wing website you pull such garbage from. On a different note about Mrs. Sheehan, one complaint of the right wing is that the left flip flops and changes positions based on polls. You then find a person who’s position has not changed, and who has taken alot of heat becuase of her dedication, and you call her crazy. I guess there is no winning against the right wing. Either you follow the (dear) leader, or you a left wing commie radical.
April 27th, 2006 at 3:53 pmBen – you sad little man. Did you haear one comment by Ms. Sheehan’s ex-husband refuting her claims? No you did not. You do not know what really happend here, nor do I. The difference is that I choose not to believe one over the other.
Ms. Sheehan lost her son to this war that the American people were lied into so this idiot of a president that we have could hand money over to Haliburton and the oil to his oil buddies.
Please do not try to blow smoke up my ass and say we are saving the Iraqi people from a brutal dictator cause that is the biggest bunch of bull I have ever heard. If we are going around the world “saving” people from brutality we should have started with Dufur or Uganda because they have it far worse than the Iraqi people ever did!
April 27th, 2006 at 3:55 pmIf we are going around the world “saving†people from brutality we should have started with Dufur or Uganda because they have it far worse than the Iraqi people ever did!
Comment by Jules
AMEN to that! I’ve often wondered when we became the “Hall Monitor” of the world.
This supposed war is nothing more than oilmen wanting control of oil fields. Screw that another country sits on top of it… (their thinking)…
April 27th, 2006 at 4:03 pmBen,
You are the one claiming Saddam had connections to Al Qeada, and 9/11, and that he had WMD’s in his posession before the start of GWII.
Comment by Krazny — April 27, 2006 @ 2:49 pm
Ben,
You have been proven to be both incorrect and stupid. Reposting your incorrect statments and stupidity doesn’t help your cause.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 27, 2006 @ 3:00 pm
Hmmmmm, false claims of WMD and 9/11 connections, repeating proven BS over and over again – is that you Cheney?
April 27th, 2006 at 4:05 pmIf we are going around the world “saving†people from brutality we should have started with Dufur or Uganda because they have it far worse than the Iraqi people ever did!
Comment by Jules
Don’t forget China, or for that matter rest of Asia, Africa, and South America. Fact is, there are not that many stable true democracies in the world.
April 27th, 2006 at 4:07 pmHey Ben,
Powerline and the National Review have just said that ThinkProgress not only did not smear Snow, but the post was actually helpful and a good thing because it showed Snow’s integrity and honesty. Yes, calling Pres Bush an “embarassment†and “impotent†is a good thing according to them.
Your talking points have just been changed. You can stop blathering now.
April 27th, 2006 at 4:39 pmGregor – they left. The sad, pathetic, little trolls have gone off to try to slime other progressive blogs with their blubbering and idiotic comments.
April 27th, 2006 at 4:45 pmJules,
I actually wanted to get some popcorn to watch these sad little trolls come unhinged.
In a way, it was funny and entertaining.
April 27th, 2006 at 4:54 pmEvery time Bill O’Reilly says “far-left smear site”, an angel gets it’s wings!
April 27th, 2006 at 6:11 pmThis is funny. The trolls are coming in and saying that TP doesn’t matter…but they are wasting their precious time (a lot of it I might add) posting on this irrelevant site. Methinks thou dost protest to much.
April 27th, 2006 at 6:59 pmif they troll enough message boards, they get a little patch that they can sew on their jacket!
April 27th, 2006 at 7:05 pmI am not sure I would want a patch with a big brown troll nose on it.
April 27th, 2006 at 7:45 pm#130 – Gerald, I’m starting to feel sorry for your “Republican ” (ha!) mom and the pseudo-Repub mom of the atheist school marm. Your mothers are what we call social Republicans. (If they have any money, we refer to them as Country Club Republicans.) They aren’t Repub;lican in issues or ideals – they are the sheeple you progs often refer to. (FYI – Country Club Republicans and Limousine Liberals are equally derisive terms. Having you two for offspring is not a surprise.)
April 27th, 2006 at 7:47 pmSomething we can agree on. Shoot all CCRs and LLs.
April 27th, 2006 at 7:50 pmJules – As a kind compassionate and ever-sensitive prog, would you be so kind as to haul Mother Sheehan off her dead son’s casket – using it for a soap box is too pathetic.
April 27th, 2006 at 7:53 pmSpudgeMAN – I wouldn’t shoot them – but I think dropping them off on ice flows might be fun!!! BTW – I think we agree on the 2nd Amendment, the death penalty, etc. Tell you what – we’ll trade you a worthless Lincoln Chaffee for a favourite Senator of mine – Joe Lieberman. (Remember, we already gave you that worthless piece of $h*t, Jim Jeffords, so just be gracious and say, “you’re welcome”.)
April 27th, 2006 at 8:42 pmWhat good is he, he resigned. Useless.
What good is he? He said he would jump to the Democratic side if the Republicans retook the Senate, which he did, but in the end he didn’t. Useless.
This guy needs to switch sides. He doesn’t act like a Democrat. If you guys want him, fine, but he is awefully wishy washy to be in any party.
If you want Joe Lieberman, fine, but you only offered up a guy that isn’t a politician anymore and somebody that Just like Specter, talks big, but doesn’t back it up.
April 27th, 2006 at 8:54 pmThat should be “which they did”
April 27th, 2006 at 8:56 pmHaving you two for offspring is not a surprise.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 27, 2006 @ 7:47 pm
Makes you quake with fear that your offspring will see through their pathetic Republiscum mother’s political stance and become liberals. Well it would. Good thing you aren’t really a woman and they aren’t real children.
I can’t speak for Gerald’s mom, though I would imagine that based on his character, his mother is proud of him. My mother is very proud of me. Well, among the three of us, Mighty Medusa, I guess two out of three ain’t bad.
April 27th, 2006 at 9:03 pmwould you be so kind as to haul Mother Sheehan off her dead son’s casket – using it for a soap box is too pathetic.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — April 27, 2006 @ 7:53 pm
You should start by taking your own advice first. Otherwise, it makes you a hypocrite. Which we already knew about you anyway. You just don’t seem to be even remotely lucid enough to grasp.
April 27th, 2006 at 9:05 pmLol I missed all the stupidity on here by BEN during the afternoon! Wow Karl Rove must have been desperate to send him in here all day to try to smear TP thread posters?! Funny that he claims this site has no importance, but then hangs in here the entire day > lol.
April 27th, 2006 at 9:18 pm#177 You are a nasty, nasty skank. If only your children were fighting. Wait, better that you were since you are such a fan of the war. Pipe dreams, I know, since you righty chickenhawk trolls don’t actually do any of the fighting.
April 27th, 2006 at 9:21 pmBy the way did you have any pictures of the 3,000 dead Americans from the WTC, PA or the Pentagon from 9/11?
Comment by Ben —
I have been meaning to point the following out for a while, but just when did all the people killed on 9/11 turn into “3000 dead Americans?” The victims of 9/11 came from about 40 different nations–Canada, Australia, most of the European countries, and parts of Africa, Asia and South America. This is no way to belittle the tragedy that befell over 2000 Americans, but let’s not forget that there were people of several other nationalities in the WTC and aboard the hijacked airplanes–and I’m not referring to the mostly Saudi hijackers.
April 27th, 2006 at 9:33 pm#185 Come on Lora. Ben is a true patriot. Facts don’t matter to him.
April 27th, 2006 at 10:50 pmBen is a true p(petty)a(arogant)t(trite)r(ranting)i(idiotically)o(over)t(trivia)
Comment by JPark — April 27, 2006 @ 10:50 pm
April 28th, 2006 at 1:33 amTo #186 JPark,
April 28th, 2006 at 2:57 amYou may be right about Ben. But in fairness to him in this particular case, I think I’ve seen or heard references to the “3000 dead Americans” from people from most–if not all–of the political spectrum. I wonder when the general American collective consciousness came to forget about the dozens of other nationalities killed on 9/11 and posted my comment this time merely to remind everyone that not all of the victims were Americans. I could have posted the same comment on some other thread but simply didn’t get around to it until now.
#184 – “You are a nasty, nasty skank. If only your children were fighting” Comment by JPark
****Dear Mr./Ms. Park – My children are too young to serve, my brother is an active duty Navy fighter pilot and both my husband and I have both served in the military. Just remember, the military has provided you the right to make a complete fool of yourself without fear of arrest – just be gracious enough to say “thank you”. You’re welcome.
April 28th, 2006 at 7:38 pm#189 Mighty Hypocrite,
April 28th, 2006 at 10:02 pmSo why aren’t you ever gracious enough to thank Cindy Sheehan for her late son’s service and sacrifice, instead of putting her down every chance you get?
MIGHTY HYPOCRITE….. i dont think the military has ‘PROVIDED’ me the right to DIDDLYSQUAT!!!!! The last time i looked it was the CONSTITUTION that did that. I know you are full of yourself but really thats tooting your own horn a little loud. Give me a break!!! If you have served in the military than you should be genuinely outraged at what is going on right now. instead you tout the party line and ignore reality!!
April 29th, 2006 at 10:26 amDoes he realize the irony of his comments? Someone’s dildo is in the shop.
April 30th, 2006 at 4:57 amMighty Disgusting: As a mother yourself, even if your children are too young to serve in the military, you have not even the least amount of dignity for yourself, in the name of motherhood, nor compassion to be sympathetic to a mother like Cindy who lost a son while he served your pseudo King Bush and his country?
You are sickening.
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