I am one of those 9%. Now that this administration has accomplished it’s mission of completely f@#king up the area, I think its time to get our troops home.
91%- the percentage of rational people who don’t know what the Hell the mission is anyway. Does the pResident and the military even know what the mission is nowadays? Other than drive up the stock of military contractors?
Can anyone here tell me what the mission in Iraq is? In definable terms, not “when the job is done”?
I said this at AMERICAblog and I’ll say it again: I think this is a TERRIBLE polling question that inaccurately portrays people’s views.
Think about it – there are probably a large portion of people in that 9% who are saying that because they want the troops to come home or redeploy and let the Iraqis finish, hell, I might fit into this category!
In the 40% who think it will eventually be accomplished, I might fit into this category as well – but that depends on how you define the mission, and what kind of time span. 50 years after three civil wars, when the country finally splits into three? 100 years, when most cars in the world will run on clean-burning hydrogen, and oil will be economically insignificant? I can see that, too.
As a person who took one college course on survey design, I’m constantly amazed at what passes for legitimate polling.
I’d like to know who these 9 percent are, and ensure that they are sterilized so their genetic material is short stopped from moving further through the gene pool.
My God, 91% percent of the nation is filled with cowards and traitors and America haters! Quick, order the lime and start digging the trenches, we need to start liquidating the domestic 5th Column ASAP!
#4
Who would want to eat a cake made of the human remains caused by an unecessary war? Setting up a government is icing, huh? Was it icing when we set up Saddam’s governmnet, too?
It’s a Daniel Pipes quote that TP posted a few weeks ago. I thought it was an appropriate joke for the thread given the topic.
“Who would want to eat a cake made of the human remains caused by an unecessary war?”
So theres people who would want to eat it if it was a necessary war?
How can you say the mission hasn’t been accomplished? We are in perpetual war which gives Bu$h unimpeded power over congress and the people as a ‘wartime president’, inching us closer and closer to a ‘Presidential’ dictatorship, we are well on our way to establishing permanent military bases in Iraq, Halliburton and it’s subsidiaries are raking in billions, the military industrial complex now has an unending cash cow, and gas is over $70 a barrell, helping Dick and Bu$h laugh all the way to the bank. I say, for all intents and purposes, their mission has been accomplished.
#12
Nice try spinning the question of the cake eating back to me when it was you who thought so highly of the quote to post it. Typical no answer to a question. Attack the questioner. So predictable. So what about the Saddam’s government icing question?
dlet “it was you who thought so highly of the quote to post it. ”
If I thought so highly of it, then why did I post it as a joke?
Attack the questioner.
“So theres people who would want to eat it if it was a necessary war? ”
Was a tounge and cheek response. I would assume no one would want a person cake, unless they are canabalisitic.
“So what about the Saddam’s government icing question?”
From my understanding we didn’t set up his government, he did, we just provided him with intel/armaments to fight the Iranians so we would have a counter weight against Iran in the Middle East, standard Realpolitik political manuevering.
#4 – The mission is accomplished, setting up a proper gov’t in Iraq is just iceing on the cake.
Comment by squegeeboo
Mission Accomplished = clusterf*ck?
Explain your idea of Mission Accomplished, please. If removing Saddam is considered Mission Accomplished, that’s not what we (USA) are supposed to do.
We need to finish the mission so that all of our boys who died won’t have died in vain. What are we supposed to do, leave Iraq and let the terrorists take over? Do you want al qada to come to your town and blow you up?
Get with it people. THe president has a plan and he is unwavering. This is a lot better than some fence sitting Dem.
I don’t hear any viable plans from the left. At least the GOP is trying to help people with a refund. $100 will help my SUV. I haven’t driven it for a few weeks and the darn thing is starting to rot. How can the Dems help me?
Sorry Stupid Republicans at #16, I didn’t see your post.
Squeegy – What Stupid Republicans said at #16.
Zookeeper, what I said at #12, apparently I shouldn’t do subtle humor, it’s to close to the diehard republican position, and you guys seem to expect more blatant humor out of me.
#4 notice also the MoE is 4.5, which indicates a pretty small sample size.
Evidence of the problem with the war is that it has no mission. It used to be about 9/11, then about removing a brutal dictator (true, but not uniquely so), then it was about setting up a democracy there that would topple the rest of the middle east and create a reverse domino effect.
I think the mission in Iraq is to be in Iraq forever (props to Rachel Maddow). Why won’t they give a timeline for getting out? Why won’t they even say they’ll dismantle the bases? Why are we building a $1.5 billion embassy?
And to those who say it’s hypocritical to oppose a war that was initially popular, I’ll relate what Lawrence O’Donnell said: If the reasons for the war are shown to be unsubstantiated, you get to change your mind.
Rayfrom GA, there are plenty of plans on the left, google John Murtha. You may not have heard about his plan as I assume all you watch is Faux News, or listen to Rush the OxyMoron. $100 rebate towards gas? that’s an idea? Where do you think that $100 will come from? Your own pocket you dumbass redneck!
#25
Yeah the greatest idea the Dems have is to take away the fed gas tax. As brilliant as a black hole. So when the price stays the same and the fed has to put the tax back on the price everyone can get mad at the government and the Dems, because it was their idea, instead of the insanely greedy oil companies.
#30: More right wing talking points. The GOP has no plan, but neither do the dems! HA! Anything you can do I can do better! I can do anything better than you! Childish yes, but that is what the GOP sounds like to me. Actually, most dems and progressives are for a windfall profits tax, to be invested in alternative energy source development. What is your plan? $100 of our own tax dollars back to us? LOL. The only plan you people have is to let the rich get richer at the expense of the middle class.
#24 – I do expect more blatant humor from you, Squeegy. This war in Iraq infuriates me.
#22 – You don’t give a flying f*ck what happens in Iraq once we leave, so don’t even pretend. Finishing the mission so our troops will not have died in vain is the most screwed up thing I have ever heard. You say the president has a plan — what is it — exactly? Give me a viable answer Ray.
“See, I understand that people are confused about the mission. That’s because the mission is a matter of national security, and anyone who leaks the mission is a leaker. One more thing — the mission is over when I say it’s over. I’m the sayer. And I’ll say it as many times as I want. Oh yeah, feedom is on the march. “
#22, #29. Yeah, the greatest idea the Republicans have is . . . oh wait, the Republicans haven’t put forth ANY ideas to solve the gas crisis. A tax refund? Great… just what we need from the Right, a deeper record deficit. Seems like all their ideas lead to more spending or bigger tax cuts and straight to debt.
Coincidentally, 9% or Americans are INSANE
May 1st, 2006 at 11:34 amit’s a boondoggle
May 1st, 2006 at 11:36 amI am one of those 9%. Now that this administration has accomplished it’s mission of completely f@#king up the area, I think its time to get our troops home.
May 1st, 2006 at 11:36 amThe mission is accomplished, setting up a proper gov’t in Iraq is just iceing on the cake.
May 1st, 2006 at 11:37 am91%- the percentage of rational people who don’t know what the Hell the mission is anyway. Does the pResident and the military even know what the mission is nowadays? Other than drive up the stock of military contractors?
Can anyone here tell me what the mission in Iraq is? In definable terms, not “when the job is done”?
May 1st, 2006 at 11:38 amI said this at AMERICAblog and I’ll say it again: I think this is a TERRIBLE polling question that inaccurately portrays people’s views.
Think about it – there are probably a large portion of people in that 9% who are saying that because they want the troops to come home or redeploy and let the Iraqis finish, hell, I might fit into this category!
In the 40% who think it will eventually be accomplished, I might fit into this category as well – but that depends on how you define the mission, and what kind of time span. 50 years after three civil wars, when the country finally splits into three? 100 years, when most cars in the world will run on clean-burning hydrogen, and oil will be economically insignificant? I can see that, too.
As a person who took one college course on survey design, I’m constantly amazed at what passes for legitimate polling.
May 1st, 2006 at 11:39 amI’d like to know who these 9 percent are, and ensure that they are sterilized so their genetic material is short stopped from moving further through the gene pool.
May 1st, 2006 at 11:41 amSo 9% of Americans, work for Bush.
May 1st, 2006 at 11:42 amMy God, 91% percent of the nation is filled with cowards and traitors and America haters! Quick, order the lime and start digging the trenches, we need to start liquidating the domestic 5th Column ASAP!
-GSD
May 1st, 2006 at 11:42 amHeck of a job, Bushy.
May 1st, 2006 at 11:43 am#4
May 1st, 2006 at 11:44 amWho would want to eat a cake made of the human remains caused by an unecessary war? Setting up a government is icing, huh? Was it icing when we set up Saddam’s governmnet, too?
#11, dlet
It’s a Daniel Pipes quote that TP posted a few weeks ago. I thought it was an appropriate joke for the thread given the topic.
“Who would want to eat a cake made of the human remains caused by an unecessary war?”
May 1st, 2006 at 11:50 amSo theres people who would want to eat it if it was a necessary war?
Of course, Bush never defined what the mission in Iraq is. The man is an incompetent leader.
May 1st, 2006 at 11:51 amNo, no no.
That’s the 9% of Americans that think that our purpose was to drive UP THE RECRUITING FOR AL QUEADA. And gosh, That has happened.
Mission Accomplished!!!!
May 1st, 2006 at 11:53 amHow can you say the mission hasn’t been accomplished? We are in perpetual war which gives Bu$h unimpeded power over congress and the people as a ‘wartime president’, inching us closer and closer to a ‘Presidential’ dictatorship, we are well on our way to establishing permanent military bases in Iraq, Halliburton and it’s subsidiaries are raking in billions, the military industrial complex now has an unending cash cow, and gas is over $70 a barrell, helping Dick and Bu$h laugh all the way to the bank. I say, for all intents and purposes, their mission has been accomplished.
May 1st, 2006 at 11:56 amThe mission was to remove Saddam Hussein from power. Mission accomplished.
Attacking a nation for the sole purpose of removing its leader is an impeachable offense.
The nonsense about spreading freedom in the mid east is just crap.
Impeach.
May 1st, 2006 at 11:57 am#12
May 1st, 2006 at 12:03 pmNice try spinning the question of the cake eating back to me when it was you who thought so highly of the quote to post it. Typical no answer to a question. Attack the questioner. So predictable. So what about the Saddam’s government icing question?
dlet “it was you who thought so highly of the quote to post it. ”
If I thought so highly of it, then why did I post it as a joke?
Attack the questioner.
“So theres people who would want to eat it if it was a necessary war? ”
Was a tounge and cheek response. I would assume no one would want a person cake, unless they are canabalisitic.
“So what about the Saddam’s government icing question?”
May 1st, 2006 at 12:08 pmFrom my understanding we didn’t set up his government, he did, we just provided him with intel/armaments to fight the Iranians so we would have a counter weight against Iran in the Middle East, standard Realpolitik political manuevering.
mmmm….person cake.
May 1st, 2006 at 12:10 pm#4 – The mission is accomplished, setting up a proper gov’t in Iraq is just iceing on the cake.
Comment by squegeeboo
Mission Accomplished = clusterf*ck?
May 1st, 2006 at 12:13 pmExplain your idea of Mission Accomplished, please. If removing Saddam is considered Mission Accomplished, that’s not what we (USA) are supposed to do.
Sorry Stupid Republicans at #16, I didn’t see your post.
May 1st, 2006 at 12:15 pmSqueegy – What Stupid Republicans said at #16.
I’m the 9%!
We need to finish the mission so that all of our boys who died won’t have died in vain. What are we supposed to do, leave Iraq and let the terrorists take over? Do you want al qada to come to your town and blow you up?
Get with it people. THe president has a plan and he is unwavering. This is a lot better than some fence sitting Dem.
I don’t hear any viable plans from the left. At least the GOP is trying to help people with a refund. $100 will help my SUV. I haven’t driven it for a few weeks and the darn thing is starting to rot. How can the Dems help me?
May 1st, 2006 at 12:17 pmYeah Ray – stay the course is a hell of a plan. It has work so very well for the past three years. What a moron!
May 1st, 2006 at 12:19 pmSorry Stupid Republicans at #16, I didn’t see your post.
Squeegy – What Stupid Republicans said at #16.
Zookeeper, what I said at #12, apparently I shouldn’t do subtle humor, it’s to close to the diehard republican position, and you guys seem to expect more blatant humor out of me.
May 1st, 2006 at 12:19 pmRay
“I haven’t driven it for a few weeks and the darn thing is starting to rot. How can the Dems help me?”
I think they actually suggested having a federal holiday on the gas tax for 2-3 months or some such thing.
May 1st, 2006 at 12:21 pmSqeeg,
May 1st, 2006 at 12:22 pmWhen doing remarks like that I try to add…/joking or /sarcasm or /acting liking a idiot-con…..stuff like that.
#4 notice also the MoE is 4.5, which indicates a pretty small sample size.
Evidence of the problem with the war is that it has no mission. It used to be about 9/11, then about removing a brutal dictator (true, but not uniquely so), then it was about setting up a democracy there that would topple the rest of the middle east and create a reverse domino effect.
I think the mission in Iraq is to be in Iraq forever (props to Rachel Maddow). Why won’t they give a timeline for getting out? Why won’t they even say they’ll dismantle the bases? Why are we building a $1.5 billion embassy?
And to those who say it’s hypocritical to oppose a war that was initially popular, I’ll relate what Lawrence O’Donnell said: If the reasons for the war are shown to be unsubstantiated, you get to change your mind.
May 1st, 2006 at 12:23 pmRayfrom GA, there are plenty of plans on the left, google John Murtha. You may not have heard about his plan as I assume all you watch is Faux News, or listen to Rush the OxyMoron. $100 rebate towards gas? that’s an idea? Where do you think that $100 will come from? Your own pocket you dumbass redneck!
May 1st, 2006 at 12:23 pm#25
May 1st, 2006 at 12:27 pmYeah the greatest idea the Dems have is to take away the fed gas tax. As brilliant as a black hole. So when the price stays the same and the fed has to put the tax back on the price everyone can get mad at the government and the Dems, because it was their idea, instead of the insanely greedy oil companies.
Geez, I had assumed rayfromga was a Steve Colbert type republican…..My sarcasm meter needs fixin maybe.
May 1st, 2006 at 12:28 pm#30: More right wing talking points. The GOP has no plan, but neither do the dems! HA! Anything you can do I can do better! I can do anything better than you! Childish yes, but that is what the GOP sounds like to me. Actually, most dems and progressives are for a windfall profits tax, to be invested in alternative energy source development. What is your plan? $100 of our own tax dollars back to us? LOL. The only plan you people have is to let the rich get richer at the expense of the middle class.
May 1st, 2006 at 12:33 pm#24 – I do expect more blatant humor from you, Squeegy. This war in Iraq infuriates me.
#22 – You don’t give a flying f*ck what happens in Iraq once we leave, so don’t even pretend. Finishing the mission so our troops will not have died in vain is the most screwed up thing I have ever heard. You say the president has a plan — what is it — exactly? Give me a viable answer Ray.
May 1st, 2006 at 12:41 pm“See, I understand that people are confused about the mission. That’s because the mission is a matter of national security, and anyone who leaks the mission is a leaker. One more thing — the mission is over when I say it’s over. I’m the sayer. And I’ll say it as many times as I want. Oh yeah, feedom is on the march. “
May 1st, 2006 at 1:25 pm#1
Absolutely!
May 1st, 2006 at 1:50 pmtypo..that’s 9 people and they are todays trolls.
May 1st, 2006 at 2:03 pm#22, #29. Yeah, the greatest idea the Republicans have is . . . oh wait, the Republicans haven’t put forth ANY ideas to solve the gas crisis. A tax refund? Great… just what we need from the Right, a deeper record deficit. Seems like all their ideas lead to more spending or bigger tax cuts and straight to debt.
May 1st, 2006 at 3:34 pmI haven’t driven it for a few weeks and the darn thing is starting to rot. How can the Dems help me?
Comment by RayFromGA #22
t’Ray’torFromGa,
..follow the yellow brick road…
…see the Wizard…
…he’ll give you a brain…
May 1st, 2006 at 3:40 pmYou say the president has a plan — what is it — exactly? Give me a viable answer Ray.
Comment by Zookeeper #32
Zookeeper,
Bushiva’s plan is quite simple…
…to keep the Middle East in constant conflict…
…so that his buddies at Exxon-Mobil, McDonnel-Douglas, General-Dynamics, Bechtel, Halliburton, GE…
…and ALL the rest…
…can continue making a killing (literally and figuratively speaking)…
…so that when his term is up…
…they can give him HIS going away present…
…like they did Ronnie Raygun when HE left office…
…Raygun’s was a $2.5 million dollar ranch house (among the gifts we were told about)…
…I’d imagine Bushiva and L’il Dick have a LOT MORE they can look forward to…
…and guess who get’s stuck with the bill?
Is there any wonder the right wing inbreds want to abolish abortion?
…after all, they know we’re going to need many more poor/middle/working class slaves…
…to keep those profits coming…
May 1st, 2006 at 3:50 pm#38 – You’re preaching to the chior, big papa. I wanted to hear from Ray, but he’s chickenshit.
What’s with the bold, big papa? It makes my eyes go weird trying to read it.
May 1st, 2006 at 6:14 pm[...] Mission Accomplished: 9% — Percentage of Americans who believe the mission in Iraq has been accomplished. [...]
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