Abramoff visits exposed.
By on May 1st, 2006 at 4:12 pm
Abramoff visits exposed.
“The Secret Service has agreed to turn over White House visitor logs that will show how often convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff met with Bush administration officials — and with whom he met.” Mark your calendar: the visitor logs are to be delivered to Judicial Watch (which sued to gain access to the records) by May 10.
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Does anyone really believe Judicial Watch is to be trusted?
May 1st, 2006 at 4:16 pmAll they are is a right wing group of lawyers who attempt to hold Democrat leaders of government accountable.
Where have they been the past 5 years?
When Clinton was President, they filed lawsuits by the minute.
Since Bush has been President, Judicial Watch might as well have disbanded…and Bush is the one who is destroying the Consitution.
So what’s going to topple the Bush Cabal?
Will it be the outting of an undercover CIA agent?
Will it be lying about WMD to justify occupation of Iraq?
Will it be spying on US citizens illegally?
Will it be the Jeff Gannon sex in the whitehouse scandal?
Will it be the lack of government response to Katrina?
Will it be Mr. Fitzgerald doing his job to expose the truth about Libby, Rove, Cheney, and Emperor Numbnutz?
Or will it be Jack Abramhoff’s dealings wtih Emperor Numbnutz as ReichWingNuts dialed for campaign dollars?
May 1st, 2006 at 4:17 pmOk, so will these logs be scrubbed or redacted? Anyone…?
May 1st, 2006 at 4:24 pmAnd on May 9th, the dog will eat them, followed by the dog mysteriously being burned to death, with the dogs ashes blown into the ocean, just prior to a hurricane.
May 1st, 2006 at 4:28 pmi am guessing that judicial watch will fairly re-produce what is given to them.
the extent that the bush’s bush black shirts, will lie about the visits, should it show, say, that Gannon and Abramoff both visited Dick Cheney to have three-way boy sex, is rather high..
the assumption must always be: whatever this administration says, does, thinks, considers, acts upon is a LIE
May 1st, 2006 at 4:35 pmWhat I enjoy the most is that the bad news keeps coming slowly over time…thus preventing the administration from mounting a “campaign” to alter the reality on the ground. Like the saying goes…corruption, the gift that keeps on giving. Let’s just hope it continues through the midterm elections so that the Democrats can finally begin real investigations with actual consequences.
read more observations here:
http://www.thoughttheater.com
May 1st, 2006 at 4:36 pmThis is win win for you guys, if it shows nothing worth mentioning, then you can all assume they scrubbed the records and it helps prove how currupt the bush administration is.
May 1st, 2006 at 4:39 pmIf it shows something worth mentioning, it helps prove how currupt the bush administration is
Hey Oxy — Give JW their due. They took Cheney to the SCOTUS (Sierra Club was 6 months late & joined their suit). They got the Iraqi Oilfield Maps and the Halliburton/KBR contracts. You’ve been snoozin’. JW seems to offend both sides.
May 1st, 2006 at 4:39 pmWhile they’re at it they should get the Gannon records.
May 1st, 2006 at 4:44 pmI’m with #1 on Judical Watch. I haven’t gone there in a long time because they seemed to be very one-sided in what they selected to pursue and to what degree. It is a great idea, if it truly were nonpartisan. A crime is a crime, regardless of party, and ethics and integrity should be valued by all.
May 1st, 2006 at 4:49 pmI guess we will see how “Snow Job” holds up to some interesting questioning.
May 1st, 2006 at 4:50 pm#3 – My guess would be redacted, since a second set or scrubbed log books would be too clean. National security, you know…
May 1st, 2006 at 4:55 pmKudos to Judicial Watch for thinking outside the box on the Abramoff scandal. Even though there have been rumblings that the WH had close ties to Abramoff, for some reason the simplest way to document that seemed to escape both the MSM and the prosecutors.
Well done!
Visualize Impeachment.
May 1st, 2006 at 5:04 pmWhat I enjoy the most is that the bad news keeps coming slowly over time…thus preventing the administration from mounting a “campaign†to alter the reality on the ground.
Comment by Daniel DiRito — May 1, 2006 @ 4:36 pm
Didn’t somebody tell Bush We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in “reality.” And reality has a well-known liberal bias.
Thus Bush doesn’t have to trust reality anymore? At least that will be his latest excuse…
May 1st, 2006 at 5:05 pmWonder if the Abramoff log agrees with the Gannon one..
May 1st, 2006 at 5:10 pmhuh huh.
This is win win for you guys, if it shows nothing worth mentioning, then you can all assume they scrubbed the records and it helps prove how currupt the bush administration is.
If it shows something worth mentioning, it helps prove how currupt the bush administration is
Thats a great point…we will see….. the estimates should be in the 50-200 range ….anything less would definately be suspect….
I mean Gannon was in there 196 times for “free” ….Abramoff had to be in there at a minimum of 50 – 100 times in the 5 years..
May 1st, 2006 at 5:13 pmThe problem that the WH would have scrubbing the visitors log, is that the Secret Service is in charge of it. That would mean Bush would have to propose to certain agents that they collaborate in a criminal conspiracy.
When I did advance work for Mondale in 1980, I got to know a few Secret Service agents. Of course, all agents aren’t the same but my sense was that they were pretty regular guys, if a bit conservative. While there could be someone that Karl Rove feels he can rely on, it would be a huge risk to try and get an agent or two to cover-up a scandal, particularly the Abramoff scandal.
While I don’t rule out Rove scrubbing the logs, if he thought he could get away with it, it’s not an easy thing to do. These days the logs are probably computerized, and erasing electronic evidence envolves a lot of expertice.
So take heart folks. This could be the smoking gun we’ve been waiting for.
May 1st, 2006 at 5:24 pmSo when you have to sue these a-holes to get them to follow the law, do you get your legal fees paid back as part of the settlement? Like in this case, did the secret service pay judicial watch back for the legal expenses?
May 1st, 2006 at 5:39 pm#18
nope. in fact, the black-shirts will charge them a small administrative fee for xeroxing the documents. maybe a dollar or so a page, something like that.
May 1st, 2006 at 5:56 pmIt’s not the Secret Service that is the target of the ivestigation, Bush is. The Secret Service, among other things, is in charge of the record of who comes and goes to the White House. They are neutral (or supposed to be) when it comes to this sort of thing.
If Bush choses to appeal the decision then Bush pays for the legal fees.
My biggest surprise when dealing with the agents was how normal they were. It makes sense if you consider how carefully screened these people are, I’m sure they have to take a battery of psych tests, both before they are excepted, and through out their years of service. That’s one reason why I think it’s unlikely that the logs will be tampered with.
May 1st, 2006 at 6:04 pmWe should all remember that every time this administration turns down a FOIA request or forces someone to sue them to turn over public documents that should have been made public in the first place, it is because this administration does not want the public to learn the truth. It is as simple as that. Even before 9-11, former Attorney General John Ashcroft was instructing the Jutice Dept to turn down all FOIA requests as a matter of course. He was forcing people to take them to court where the government would eventually lose anyway. It makes no difference what the subject is, President Bush, and especially Vice Presient Cheney (who once shot a 78-year-old man in the face and then didn’t want to tell anyone about it), do not want you to learn what is really going on. They have absolutely no respect for you at all, and even less for the truth.
May 1st, 2006 at 6:16 pm#19. The Secret Service are not Black Shirts, far from it. While I’m sure there are many questionable people in the military, black ops types and the like, the Secret Service agents are as normal as you can get, and not knee jerk conservative either.
It’s interesting how someone who has no direct experience or knowledge of the Secret Service, would make such a claim.
May 1st, 2006 at 6:27 pmI have to concur with Aurore. I worked with the Secret Service in 90-92 when I was in the US Army and forund them to be very professional but also friendly and sociable, far from a “black shirt” mentality
May 1st, 2006 at 6:38 pm#21 – Well said, Wayne.
May 1st, 2006 at 6:38 pm#24 Thanks, again, Zookeeper. I’m trying to make ‘em count today.
May 1st, 2006 at 6:56 pm#21 Wayne, I agree with you also. Whatever info we are denied equals damaging info.
Fitzgerald is going to have a very busy year.
May 1st, 2006 at 7:07 pmHow much shall we wager that there are so many redactions in the records, they are virtually useless?
May 1st, 2006 at 8:14 pm#22
yes, they don’t wear the arm-bands…yet. bush uber alles, baby!!!
May 1st, 2006 at 8:24 pmJudicial Watch always was about the money (a lot from RM Scaife). What if Soros “asked” Larry Lizard to look into the Energy meetings and then made another donation to get at the Abramoff white house connection?
Any Republican hatchet man will change his tune for enough money; ask David Brock.
May 2nd, 2006 at 11:06 amAbramoff was a ‘member’ of the Interior Dept. “transition” team, when BushCo took over. But why?? How was a Lobbyist useful? And Gale Norton did resign, to “spend more time with her family.” That is never a good sign with BushCo. But I think they will just ‘forget’ to hand the records over.
May 2nd, 2006 at 11:11 amAbramoff visited the white house 200 times in a 10 month period. This amounts to 20 visits per month. There are, on average, 22 working days per month.
This means that Abramoff visited the white house every working day for 10 months. Hell I don’t bathe that regularly.
Impeach the Beast (666)
May 2nd, 2006 at 11:57 amwell, here is our answer…
filthy lying bastards…
fcku bush
May 2nd, 2006 at 11:57 am