Comments on: VIDEO: Rumsfeld Called Out On Lies About WMD http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:57:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: PD Thinkings » Goss Fired To Protect Bush’s Ass http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-12/#comment-1044534 PD Thinkings » Goss Fired To Protect Bush’s Ass Sun, 29 Oct 2006 00:40:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-1044534 [...] The day before Goss was fired, 3 CIA officials stepped forward. Paul Pillar, a former CIA analyst expert in Middle East and Asian counter terrorism, stated that Bush had an “organized campaign” to manipulate intelligence to justify war based on links between Iraq and al qaeda. The devious nature of Bush’s campaign was also revealed: The Bush team chose the myth of an al-qaeda link because “it was this that most strongly affected public opinion in the United States, and which would keep alive the images of September 11, 2001.” Former 27-year CIA veteran Ray McGovern also spoke out the same day as Pillar when he publicly challenged Rumsfeld’s lies and stated that the CIA intelligence was correct, but the administration simply lied about their “bullet proof”‘ evidence. Equally significant was that McGovern had the audacity (in Bush’s eyes) to confront Rumsfeld at a public event and McGovern refused to blink. On the same day, it was also revealed that a former CIA agent had filed a lawsuit against the CIA, claiming he was fired for refusing to falsify information in accordance with the party line on Iraq and 2 other countries. He also alleged that the CIA tried to stop pursuit of intelligence and bury actionable intelligence. [...] [...] The day before Goss was fired, 3 CIA officials stepped forward. Paul Pillar, a former CIA analyst expert in Middle East and Asian counter terrorism, stated that Bush had an “organized campaign” to manipulate intelligence to justify war based on links between Iraq and al qaeda. The devious nature of Bush’s campaign was also revealed: The Bush team chose the myth of an al-qaeda link because “it was this that most strongly affected public opinion in the United States, and which would keep alive the images of September 11, 2001.” Former 27-year CIA veteran Ray McGovern also spoke out the same day as Pillar when he publicly challenged Rumsfeld’s lies and stated that the CIA intelligence was correct, but the administration simply lied about their “bullet proof”‘ evidence. Equally significant was that McGovern had the audacity (in Bush’s eyes) to confront Rumsfeld at a public event and McGovern refused to blink. On the same day, it was also revealed that a former CIA agent had filed a lawsuit against the CIA, claiming he was fired for refusing to falsify information in accordance with the party line on Iraq and 2 other countries. He also alleged that the CIA tried to stop pursuit of intelligence and bury actionable intelligence. [...]

]]> By: Rummy attacking the war opposition http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-12/#comment-761409 Rummy attacking the war opposition Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:47:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-761409 [...] You know, a guy who on not once, not twice, but three times got caught trying to say he never said something should probably avoid accusing others of any kind of confusion. And then there’s his problem with history. [...] [...] You know, a guy who on not once, not twice, but three times got caught trying to say he never said something should probably avoid accusing others of any kind of confusion. And then there’s his problem with history. [...]

]]> By: IntoxiNation » Blog Archive » Rumsfeld Heckled by Former CIA Analyst http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-12/#comment-652269 IntoxiNation » Blog Archive » Rumsfeld Heckled by Former CIA Analyst Sun, 02 Jul 2006 04:16:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-652269 [...] Former CIA analyst accuses Rumsfeld in a question-and-answer session of lying about Iraq prewar intelligence. Video Filed Under: News Item Permalink Trackback Feed 21 Views Print This Article   Email This article [...] [...] Former CIA analyst accuses Rumsfeld in a question-and-answer session of lying about Iraq prewar intelligence. Video Filed Under: News Item Permalink Trackback Feed 21 Views Print This Article   Email This article [...]

]]> By: Think Progress » Rumsfeld’s Revisionist History: “We Know Where The WMD ‘Suspect Sites’ Are” http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-575083 Think Progress » Rumsfeld’s Revisionist History: “We Know Where The WMD ‘Suspect Sites’ Are” Fri, 26 May 2006 15:55:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-575083 [...] Last night on CNN’s Larry King Live, Donald Rumsfeld was asked about 27-year CIA veteran Ray McGovern, who recently told the Secretary of Defense he lied when he said he knew where the WMD were located in Iraq in March 2003. Rumsfeld refused to acknowledge his error and falsely claimed he was talking about “suspect sites.” Watch it: [...] [...] Last night on CNN’s Larry King Live, Donald Rumsfeld was asked about 27-year CIA veteran Ray McGovern, who recently told the Secretary of Defense he lied when he said he knew where the WMD were located in Iraq in March 2003. Rumsfeld refused to acknowledge his error and falsely claimed he was talking about “suspect sites.” Watch it: [...]

]]> By: WINTER PARK http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-567042 WINTER PARK Sun, 21 May 2006 16:40:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-567042 [...] From Think Progress: [...] [...] From Think Progress: [...]

]]> By: ThreadingWater http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-559547 ThreadingWater Tue, 16 May 2006 20:11:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-559547 <strong>I Love You, Ray McGovern...</strong> My favorite reality show is this one, where Rumsfeld gets pummeled - with his own words - thrown at him by a twenty-seven year veteran of the CIA. I feel as weepy with joy as Dave, ("I'm not your bitch, bitch") and I think I ma... I Love You, Ray McGovern…

My favorite reality show is this one, where Rumsfeld gets pummeled – with his own words - thrown at him by a twenty-seven year veteran of the CIA.
I feel as weepy with joy as Dave, ("I'm not your bitch, bitch") and I think I ma…

]]> By: flamingolake » Ray McGovern with Paula http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-558866 flamingolake » Ray McGovern with Paula Tue, 16 May 2006 07:18:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-558866 [...]  Think Progress:  Former 27-year CIA analyst Ray McGovern courageously challenged Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld yesterday afternoon in Atlanta about his lies about Iraq’s WMD program. He was interviewed last night by CNN’s Paula Zahn. Watch it: [...] [...]  Think Progress:  Former 27-year CIA analyst Ray McGovern courageously challenged Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld yesterday afternoon in Atlanta about his lies about Iraq’s WMD program. He was interviewed last night by CNN’s Paula Zahn. Watch it: [...]

]]> By: SelArom » Blog Archive » Getting the truth, 15 seconds at a time http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-550842 SelArom » Blog Archive » Getting the truth, 15 seconds at a time Thu, 11 May 2006 03:26:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-550842 [...] So I’m watching Jon Stewart and he starts to talk about the exchange between Rumsfeld and Ray McGovern on May 4th. Well I would like to start by saying holy shit that was great footage…. and follow up by saying holy SHIT how many more instances of exposed, outright LYING do we have to put up with before somebody does something about it?! [...] [...] So I’m watching Jon Stewart and he starts to talk about the exchange between Rumsfeld and Ray McGovern on May 4th. Well I would like to start by saying holy shit that was great footage…. and follow up by saying holy SHIT how many more instances of exposed, outright LYING do we have to put up with before somebody does something about it?! [...]

]]> By: Casolaro http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-550468 Casolaro Wed, 10 May 2006 20:33:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-550468 Wackenhutt Wackenhutt

]]> By: Lucidity http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-549441 Lucidity Wed, 10 May 2006 02:58:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-549441 DanW/oDNA Titan hires a lot of them, I believe, but seems to fudge job descriptions. Blackwater, of course, too. Not all are American. But you know all that. The Blackwater ones have been in at lleast Afghanistan, Iraq, and NOLA. Foreign nationals were in NOLA too. My theory is that the U.S. government is using more and more of them, at ghastly high rates of pay, because they are not bound by the ethics most of our military still upholds to protect us from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. I'd suggest joining some Veterans Against the War in Iraq type groups and talking to those who got out too. If I remember anything else offhand, I'll drop you a line. And of course you know about Ogrish and some of the other mercenary video sites, right? It's something that's been nagging at me for a long time now...particularly after Fallujah. DanW/oDNA

Titan hires a lot of them, I believe, but seems to fudge job descriptions. Blackwater, of course, too. Not all are American. But you know all that. The Blackwater ones have been in at lleast Afghanistan, Iraq, and NOLA. Foreign nationals were in NOLA too. My theory is that the U.S. government is using more and more of them, at ghastly high rates of pay, because they are not bound by the ethics most of our military still upholds to protect us from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. I’d suggest joining some Veterans Against the War in Iraq type groups and talking to those who got out too. If I remember anything else offhand, I’ll drop you a line. And of course you know about Ogrish and some of the other mercenary video sites, right? It’s something that’s been nagging at me for a long time now…particularly after Fallujah.

]]> By: Beware The Man » Blog Man Example http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-549235 Beware The Man » Blog Man Example Tue, 09 May 2006 23:20:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-549235 [...] For the general public, who may only budget 5-30 min/day of "news," doesn't this tell you everything you need to know about how we got into the war, all in one little video clip and transcript?  Plus, you can share it with everyone you know. [...] [...] For the general public, who may only budget 5-30 min/day of "news," doesn't this tell you everything you need to know about how we got into the war, all in one little video clip and transcript?  Plus, you can share it with everyone you know. [...]

]]> By: Arminius http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-548848 Arminius Tue, 09 May 2006 20:30:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-548848 As damning as this may actually be, the spin Rummy puts on his answers still sound believable. Yes, I believe he is lying...But, even though he trips up his speech, I think he came out of this smelling like a rose. It wouldn't matter if he did look bad anyway, because these guys are teflon coated. Even when they get caught lying and you can really prove it (e.g. Bush outing Plame), there is seemingly no impact... Business continues as usual... The Media and many other people continually put a degree of stock in what these guys say... Cognative Dissonance is alive and well in this country... As damning as this may actually be, the spin Rummy puts on his answers still sound
believable. Yes, I believe he is lying…But, even though he trips up his speech,
I think he came out of this smelling like a rose. It wouldn’t matter if he did look
bad anyway, because these guys are teflon coated. Even when they get caught
lying and you can really prove it (e.g. Bush outing Plame), there is seemingly no impact…
Business continues as usual… The Media and many other people continually put
a degree of stock in what these guys say… Cognative Dissonance is alive and
well in this country…

]]> By: Another Opinion http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-548508 Another Opinion Tue, 09 May 2006 18:37:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-548508 Regarding Sonia 547 comment and Lucidity 548.... Yes, thanks for the point. I was thinking of making that clearer, but I had rambled on long enough. I definitely didn't mean the portion of the American population that has a consciousness, and have a genuine concern for other human beings. I know that is a huge portion of America, and I even think a large portion of the people who voted for Bush probably have good intentions, but some how are not able to see past the lies. But there is a large portion of the world which do place it on all Americans, which is sad also, since some of the best people I have known, and some of the people doing the most good in the world are definitely Americans. But unfortunately, even if you include the election fraud that obviously took place, close to half of Americans are voting for a policy that is killing hundreds of thousands of innocents abroad. Unfortunately Canada recently has shown it to has a populace that is easily fooled, and easily exchanges small tax benefits at the price of a horrendous foreign policy. Definitely the whole world is gray and not black and white. I hope you can filter out the general American bashing from the constructive ones.... which I try to do with Canadian bashing as well. Cause we definitely have a lot of problems we have to solve up here as well.... Regarding Sonia 547 comment and Lucidity 548….

Yes, thanks for the point. I was thinking of making that clearer, but I had rambled on long enough. I definitely didn’t mean the portion of the American population that has a consciousness, and have a genuine concern for other human beings. I know that is a huge portion of America, and I even think a large portion of the people who voted for Bush probably have good intentions, but some how are not able to see past the lies. But there is a large portion of the world which do place it on all Americans, which is sad also, since some of the best people I have known, and some of the people doing the most good in the world are definitely Americans. But unfortunately, even if you include the election fraud that obviously took place, close to half of Americans are voting for a policy that is killing hundreds of thousands of innocents abroad. Unfortunately Canada recently has shown it to has a populace that is easily fooled, and easily exchanges small tax benefits at the price of a horrendous foreign policy. Definitely the whole world is gray and not black and white. I hope you can filter out the general American bashing from the constructive ones…. which I try to do with Canadian bashing as well. Cause we definitely have a lot of problems we have to solve up here as well….

]]> By: DanW/oDNA http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-548502 DanW/oDNA Tue, 09 May 2006 18:36:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-548502 I was wondering if anyone out there would have any idea where, or the best place to start would be, that I could find out information I could use to compile a list of the specific military jobs that the private companies are filling in Iraq. Like- sniper, bombadier, grenadist, castle stormingeneer, etc.? We need to compile it for our national release movie on private contractors on Iraq being evil. The movie will put it more eloquently and two-housier than that. barely. I was wondering if anyone out there would have any idea where, or the best place to start would be, that I could find out information I could use to compile a list of the specific military jobs that the private companies are filling in Iraq. Like- sniper, bombadier, grenadist, castle stormingeneer, etc.? We need to compile it for our national release movie on private contractors on Iraq being evil. The movie will put it more eloquently and two-housier than that. barely.

]]> By: cliff http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-544083 cliff Mon, 08 May 2006 03:34:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-544083 the first link dosent work because you have to be a member, but it is called American Dictators by Alex Jones of www.infowars.com this interview is very important from an government insider http://www.infowars.com/transcripts/degranpres.htm the first link dosent work because you have to be a member, but it is called American Dictators by Alex Jones of http://www.infowars.com

this interview is very important from an government insider
http://www.infowars.com/transcripts/degranpres.htm

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-544045 Lora Mon, 08 May 2006 03:06:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-544045 To Lucidity and others, A lot of us have hope for the midterm elections, but I'm not so sure. I myself vote in an overwhelmingly Democrat-leaning district, so there's no worry there. However, I am concerned --and I think we also should be--about the possibility of malprogrammed voting equipment, such as the Diebold machines, used in swing districts, as they seem to have been to some extent in 2004. I think we all should be paying close attention to what kind of equipment is being used in our respective voting districts., as the Busheviks may act wildly desperate in the knowledge that a Democrat victory this November could lead to more convictions and possible impeachment. To Lucidity and others,
A lot of us have hope for the midterm elections, but I’m not so sure. I myself vote in an overwhelmingly Democrat-leaning district, so there’s no worry there. However, I am concerned –and I think we also should be–about the possibility of malprogrammed voting equipment, such as the Diebold machines, used in swing districts, as they seem to have been to some extent in 2004. I think we all should be paying close attention to what kind of equipment is being used in our respective voting districts., as the Busheviks may act wildly desperate in the knowledge that a Democrat victory this November could lead to more convictions and possible impeachment.

]]> By: cliff http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-544040 cliff Mon, 08 May 2006 02:59:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-544040 to Lucidity one of the best sites is my uncle's www.crisispapers.org however we are behind the 8 ball and bush and the neocons game plan will not allow them to lose no matter what. Most of us know where the Democrats stand. And most of us know where all of the politicians stand. But if you think the Bush family is here to help this sick country, please think again and give me 20 minutes of your time. I have researched this topic over 3 years ago and now there is a video on the topic. http://www.infowars.com/video/previews/martial_law/ml_bushnazi_qtbb.htm Please do your own research and ask God if you disagree. Then help get this evil out of power. Spread the link, and know that sometimes it does not work because the band width is out i.e. millions of hits at one time wont allow the link to work. Here is another way to help. http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/activist_main.html God help us. to Lucidity

one of the best sites is my uncle’s http://www.crisispapers.org

however we are behind the 8 ball and bush and the neocons game plan will not allow them to lose no matter what.

Most of us know where the Democrats stand. And most of us
know where all of the politicians stand. But if you think
the Bush family is here to help this sick country, please
think again and give me 20 minutes of your time. I have
researched this topic over 3 years ago and now there is
a video on the topic.

http://www.infowars.com/video/previews/martial_law/ml_bushnazi_qtbb.htm

Please do your own research and ask God if you disagree.

Then help get this evil out of power.

Spread the link, and know that sometimes it does not work because the band width is out i.e. millions of hits at one time wont allow the link to work.

Here is another way to help.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/activist_main.html

God help us.

]]> By: Lucidity http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-543998 Lucidity Mon, 08 May 2006 02:20:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-543998 cliff and lora, many, many people are working to prevent this from happpening and are making progress. find the ones who are doing this, both in the government and in grassroots local organizations, including police and national guard, support them however you can, and do whatever you can to spread the word and prepare yourself and you loved ones...stay off their controlling drugs and games. the people perpetrating this on america and americans did not count on the internet, the internet they are trying to control and shut down...they thought they would be able to continue to control us as they have since wwii and before but they can't. too many people remember and too many people see. and if we stand together they will not win. this is not paranoid...it's real and it's happening. talk (face to face...find them they are still out there) to anyone who survived the holocausts in europe and wwii. ask them what they see here in america now. and watch the aipac spy trial (no, the mainstream news will not tell you about any of this, yet it's huge and has widespreading ramifications) and libby trial happenings (also big and widespreading and scaring them to death but wisely somehow postponed by them until after the midterm elections). we won't be fooled again. cliff and lora, many, many people are working to prevent this from happpening and are making progress. find the ones who are doing this, both in the government and in grassroots local organizations, including police and national guard, support them however you can, and do whatever you can to spread the word and prepare yourself and you loved ones…stay off their controlling drugs and games. the people perpetrating this on america and americans did not count on the internet, the internet they are trying to control and shut down…they thought they would be able to continue to control us as they have since wwii and before but they can’t. too many people remember and too many people see. and if we stand together they will not win. this is not paranoid…it’s real and it’s happening. talk (face to face…find them they are still out there) to anyone who survived the holocausts in europe and wwii. ask them what they see here in america now. and watch the aipac spy trial (no, the mainstream news will not tell you about any of this, yet it’s huge and has widespreading ramifications) and libby trial happenings (also big and widespreading and scaring them to death but wisely somehow postponed by them until after the midterm elections). we won’t be fooled again.

]]> By: cliff http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-543838 cliff Mon, 08 May 2006 01:38:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-543838 Lora, Just like both links the media and guests were clapping and groveling to bush. We are in a world of hurt. the only way out of this will be a complete meltdown, which will be good because both parties have sold us out and a cleansing is needed. Unfortuniatly there will be many deaths and a police state. Im a generation Xer and we believe our parents and grandparents have failed to keep this boat a float, they were/are cowards and to this day many are still living in a daze just like the citizens of Hitler's Germany did. get prepared is my advice www.infowars.com many people call Alex crazy but cannot show where he is wrong. Lora,

Just like both links the media and guests were clapping and groveling to bush.

We are in a world of hurt. the only way out of this will be a complete meltdown, which will be good because both parties have sold us out and a cleansing is needed. Unfortuniatly there will be many deaths and a police state.

Im a generation Xer and we believe our parents and grandparents have failed to keep this boat a float, they were/are cowards and to this day many are still living in a daze just like the citizens of Hitler’s Germany did.

get prepared is my advice

http://www.infowars.com

many people call Alex crazy but cannot show where he is wrong.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/comment-page-11/#comment-543700 Lora Mon, 08 May 2006 01:20:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/#comment-543700 Thanks for the link, cliff. At the time I wondered--and I still wonder--how anyone watching Bush's tasteless skit could think that he is concerned with the security and welfare of American citizens other than what he calls the "have mores"--his "base." Are any of the usual reichwing trolls ready to defend it? Thanks for the link, cliff.
At the time I wondered–and I still wonder–how anyone watching Bush’s tasteless skit could think that he is concerned with the security and welfare of American citizens other than what he calls the “have mores”–his “base.”
Are any of the usual reichwing trolls ready to defend it?

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