Senate Speaks: No Permanent Bases In Iraq
Yesterday, the Senate unanimously passed an amendment to the Iraq supplemental spending bill proposed by Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE) that would require the Bush administration not to use any appropriated funds for the construction of permanent bases in Iraq. The amendment also called for the U.S. not exercise control over Iraqi oil. Biden’s amendment reads as follows:
To provide that no funds made available by title I of this Act may be made available to establish permanent United States military bases in Iraq or to exercise control by the United States over the oil infrastructure or oil resources of Iraq.
Earlier this year, the House passed an amendment offered by Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) that similarly stated no funds should be used for permanent base construction.
Congress has now spoken with a clear and unambiguous voice a time when there are troubling signs that the administration wants to make the U.S. presence permanent in Iraq. For example, the administration is currently constructing a $592 million U.S. embassy in Baghdad that spans the size of 80 football fields.
Will this be yet another law that the administration chooses to ignore?
UPDATE: Atrios believes Bush won’t listen.
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Since Bush has ignored, or claimed that over 750 different laws don’t apply to him, I don’t think ignoring one more will make a difference.
May 4th, 2006 at 12:18 pmIt all depends on how you define permanent. Ash to ash and dust to dust. Nothing is permanent in God’ s Kingdom.
May 4th, 2006 at 12:18 pmYou bet there is gonna be a Presidential Signing Statement attatched to this bill.
Duh!
May 4th, 2006 at 12:20 pmDoes this apply to the funds that have already been spent to build permanent bases in Iraq? Probably not. But if it does, it’s just a massive windfall to the companies that took the money to do the work because they will get to keep it without actually building anything.
Putting this together with earlier reports of missing truckloads of contractor cash and you’ve got to wonder if the ‘bipartisan appeal’ of the action wasn’t half anti-war and half pro-embezzlement.
May 4th, 2006 at 12:21 pmI foresee a time when there will be photographs of the embassy fortress being taken over by Iraqis and the US “diplomats being kicked out. Our flag being taken down and Iraq’s flown. It will be just another note in Bush’s failed legacy. Probably will only see it on BBC though.
May 4th, 2006 at 12:22 pmLet’s all pray that nothing this administration has done
May 4th, 2006 at 12:22 pmwill be permanent.
PNSD, (Post Neocon Stress Disorder), is nothing to laugh at.
It creeps into your consciousness, makes you want to vomit
and most always leads to that ‘ah-ha’ moment of WTF?
I can give you 592 million reasons why they’re planning on
permanent bases…let’s make sure we have nothing left but
PNSD after November.
VOTE THE BASTAEDS OUT!
Well that is nice of Biden, but the new American Embassy being constructed in Baghdad is as big as an army base, costing billions, and is considered permanent!
May 4th, 2006 at 12:23 pmI thought the bases were already a work in progress? And if GWB does not sign it, that is the end of it. The construction will just continue.
May 4th, 2006 at 12:24 pmWell I guess that means we blew over a half billion dollars. If it weren’t so frustrating it would be laughable. When the polls indicate that the voters feel we have no plan for Iraq, it is clear that reports like this simply demonstrate the reason why. The lack of a comprehensive plan seems more remote as each day passes.
more observations here:
http://www.thoughttheater.com
May 4th, 2006 at 12:25 pmEmbassy will be a self contained city with its own power supply, water treatment plant, restaurants, gym, duty free shops and military barracks around it to repel invaders!
May 4th, 2006 at 12:27 pm#6 Should read BASTARDS!
May 4th, 2006 at 12:28 pmNote: down payment for construction of the Embassy is a half billion, but believe me it will cost billions in the end to finish it and millions spent yearly to maintain it too!
May 4th, 2006 at 12:30 pmMy Spidey senses are picking up a new executive order.
May 4th, 2006 at 12:31 pmMaybe they intend it to be the new American Corporate Embassy.
May 4th, 2006 at 12:35 pmThe big question is will the embassy have a McD’s or a Burger King?
May 4th, 2006 at 12:37 pmPost 14 it is being built like a fortress, even will have underground escape tunnels, so if Iraqis someday try to overrun it the Ambassador can escape! It would be like storming the French Bastille > probably 10,000 + Iraqis killed to overrun it someday?!
May 4th, 2006 at 12:39 pmCongress be damned, I guess.
Everything you read and hear, they are creating bases.
May 4th, 2006 at 12:43 pmMaybe it depends on ones meaning of permanent.
My feeling is that the Embassy compound gets built and then a military base around it, then a Airforce base next to that, so its a military base with the Embassy in the middle of it!
May 4th, 2006 at 12:43 pm#15 You know that many of our current bases in Iraq do have fast food. From GlobalSecurity.org
May 4th, 2006 at 12:51 pm#19. That CAPS LOCK key can also be used to turn *off* caps… see, you learned something today.
May 4th, 2006 at 12:53 pmwhy do we even need a permanent base there……if we wanted to launch an attack against say Iran, wouldn’t our friends the Iraqis just say sure, go ahead, use one of ours? Kinda like our friends the Saudis do
May 4th, 2006 at 12:54 pmFirst of all- doesn’t this bill have to go to conference? And if it does– guess what!
May 4th, 2006 at 12:55 pmSecondly— as had already been said- does anyone still think that the Liar would have a moments hesitation in simply going ahead no matter what?
The liar has tho asap!
billjpa@aol.com
Bush in public while signing this bill into law: “This law represents our commitment to a stable, self-supporting government in Iraq independent western intervention. It also marks a turning point in the war on terror.” (oh you know he can’t avoid sticking “turning point” in there)
Bush in private signing statement, “Hey doodz! Thanks for the advice! I’ll be sure to remember what I signed when I’m doing WHATEVER THE [expletive] I WANT! Woot! Woot!”
May 4th, 2006 at 12:56 pmYep, this has “signing statement” written all over it.
May 4th, 2006 at 12:58 pmIs #19 serious?
May 4th, 2006 at 1:00 pmANVILHEAD……..I don’t know if Iraq is ours but I am sure the oil underneath it is. Right?
May 4th, 2006 at 1:01 pmah - never fear. Boy Prince George will smile when he signs this bill and opt-out through a signing statement or some other surreptitious method. after all - he’s the unitary executive and these bases will be “vital to keeping america safe” (and will also be vital for the upcoming invasion of Iran)…
May 4th, 2006 at 1:03 pmJust curious - if Congress passed a bill nullifying signing statements, would Bush veto it or just add a signing statement above his signature..?
May 4th, 2006 at 1:06 pmWTF do North Carolina and South Carolina have to do with a Pennsylvania senatorial campaign?
May 4th, 2006 at 1:10 pmSorry, post 31 refers to a different thread.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:13 pmthere you have it folks…….according to republican spokesman ANVILHEAD we invaded Iraq for it’s oil. Haven’t the lefties been critisized for saying that exact thing?
May 4th, 2006 at 1:20 pmWhy do I have to follow rules and obey laws if our government doesn’t? I’ll do what ever I want too.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:23 pmthe oil underneath it is. Right?
Comment by walter66 — May 4, 2006 @ 1:01 pm
WHATS IMPORTANT IS THAT WE CONTROL THE MID EAST…
WE DID IRAQ AND WILL DO IRAN BECAUSE IF WE DIDNT.. RUSSIA AND CHINA WOULD HAVE.
THEN THE OIL FLOW WOULD BE AWAY FROM THE EAST, WEAKENIING THE WEST.
THANK GOD WEVE GOT PEOPLE IN POWER WHO DEFEND OUR INTERESTS.
Comment by ANVILHEAD
Know anything about the history of the middle east? It never plays out well for the conquerer… not Alexander the Great… not even Rome…
Let the oil flow somewhere else… America has the science to be rid of it.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:31 pmI wonder what are the chances that these amendments will make a difference either in the spending or the construction of military bases in Iraq.
Pres Bush still has to show any inclination to respect the law when it stands in the way of his decisions. He has set the stage for a presidential style that will hold the law in absolute contempt on a whim, ignore or uphold it according to his own personal interpretation, and use Congress as a backdrop to give his decisions some semblance of legal credibility.
This administration and their miopic supporters cannot bring themselves to understand the consequences of present actions in decisions made by future administrations: Respect for the law is a protective wall separating a representative democracy from tiranny. Congress has failed to fulfill its responsibilities. We will all suffer the consequences of their neglect for their duties.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:31 pm“Will this be yet another law that the administration chooses to ignore?” - Faiz
****Faiz, Might I suggest a refresher course in U.S Government for you? Hint: when does a “bill” become “law”? The Senate and House bills were signed into law…..when??? Oh…they haven’t been….who knew???
More extreme left-wing propaganda being floated in cyperspace for consumption by the gullible.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:40 pm#30
Corrected.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:43 pmI THINK BUSH WILL IGNORE IT TOO. HE WON’T EVEN PRETEND TO COMPLY. AND THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS WILL DO NOTHING TO CALL HIM ON IT.
THERE IS NO CONGRESS WITH THE REPUBLICANS IN CHARGE.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:43 pm#14 or maybe the new offices for the PNAC.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:45 pmUhhh, hello, they are already permanent. In fact, they are about the only construction, aside from the embassy complex, that will not be destroyed by bombs or neglect.
Comment by Geoff #37
Geoff,
You took the words right out of my head…
…An article I read a few weeks ago described bases with car dealerships, McDonalds and Burger Kings with huge Commissaries…
…and stated that we were laying “miles of concrete” in those bases…
…and just what the hell are we supposed to do with that $600 million dollar U.S. embassy complex?
Oh I know, chalk it up as another Halliburton, Bechtel donation…
…call me crazy but I like to at least get kissed…
…while I’m being screwed…
May 4th, 2006 at 1:45 pmBush is above the law, of course Atrios is right. He can torture, he can illegally wiretap, he can do anything he damn well pleases.
One day in October we are going to wake up and learn that Iran has been nuked. No UN, no Congress, WW3 will begin. He can do what he wants, laws be damned.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:45 pmGet ready for another “signing statement”.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:46 pmThis is a welcomed vote as far as I’m concerned. Why would we want to have permenant bases in Iraq, so our troops can continue to get killed? Any fool no matter how much foreign policy experience he has should be able to see that Iraq has become a breeding/training ground for terrorist. The best policy of Iraq is too get tough with the so called government and make them stand up so we can get out.
The has been nothing but a disaster since we started and it’s because the blind was leading the blind. The troops have performed with honor and courage, but all of the courage in the world doesn’t make up for bad leadership. That’s why the Soviets lost in Afganistan, bad leadership. The best Army in the world has been reduced to dodging roadside bombs. Whatever moron thought this up should not only be fired, but charged criminally. I’d glad I don’t have a son old enough to fight for these fools. It’s easy to sit behind a desk and give stupid orders, but when it was their time to fight, they were cowards.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:48 pm#37
May 4th, 2006 at 1:51 pmGeoff,
I was thinking the same thing. We can’t just fold up the tarmac and bring it back with us. This amendmant is about as easy to get around as a talking point from a troll. The amendmant should have said that all new bases are the sole property of Iraq and we will build and lease them for x amount of years…or something like that.
DICLAIMER: I am not a lawyer.
No, no, no. The military doesn’t build “permanent bases”.
What they are building are “enduring bases”. Therefore, this law is no problme.
Seriously, that’s what they call them and the dodge they will use.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:53 pm“More extreme left-wing propaganda being floated in cyperspace for consumption by the gullible. Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
As opposed to the right-wing propaganda you and the rest of your Gullible Redneck buddies spew? Bahaha, now THAT’s funny…
Oh and Mighty Clueless, let me help you out with this one. Number of ‘bills’ GWBush has vetoed since elected - ZERO. Chance GWBush cares about or follows any law he’s signed but disagrees with - ZERO. Chance that you’re anything but a FAT, STUPID MAN who works as a hack computer administrator somewhere - ZERO.
Oh, and maybe he’ll just ‘breech’ his contract with america (wasn’t that how you the supposed lawyer spelled that word?). Hehehe, you’re so STUPID, it’s almost funny reading you sometimes - but not because you try to be.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:53 pmwell mighty aphrodite…….yea or nay on permanent bases in Iraq?
May 4th, 2006 at 1:54 pmOne solution
http://www.votetoimpeach.org
May 4th, 2006 at 1:55 pmQuestion:
May 4th, 2006 at 2:00 pmAnyone have an idea of how many years it’s going to take to clean up after this maniac leaves office?
Or will the damage be as permanent as those bases?
Walter - I think we should pull our military out of Korea and Japan and have them finish cleaning out the vermin in Iraq and Afghanistan. But of course, Walter, you’ll want to remind Faiz that the President is not flouting “another law” - maybe research interns could help out….any volunteers?
May 4th, 2006 at 2:01 pmwalter,
Mighty Moron hasn’t received orders yet from the hive mind - don’t expect him to think for himself, it’s a lot to ask of a droning troll.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:01 pm#37
May 4th, 2006 at 2:05 pmGeoff,
I was thinking the same thing. We can’t just fold up the tarmac and bring it back with us. This amendmant is about as easy to get around as a talking point from a troll. The amendmant should have said that all new bases are the sole property of Iraq and we will build and lease them for x amount of years…or something like that.
DIsCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer.
let me re-phrase my question for you MA……yea or nay on permanent bases in Iraq?
May 4th, 2006 at 2:06 pm“or to exercise control by the United States over the oil infrastructure or oil resources of Iraq”
I guess this still leaves it open for Halliburton to “excercise control”… mmmm… sounds like oil flavored lipstick on a pig.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:06 pmI am confident Faiz will be issuing a “correction” soon. It’s probably just a matter of getting the OK from Mr. Podesta and other extreme left-wingers “in the know”.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:07 pmGiven we’re apparently already at work on a monstrousity larger than Saddam’s palaces, I wonder what the signing statement was on the earlier bill…
May 4th, 2006 at 2:13 pmI haven’t pondered the idea, Walter. I dislike the idea of permanent bases - but I dislike the thought of abandoning the Shiites and the Kurds. (I know for you “cut and runners” out there, my reluctance is not understandable.) As Zarqawi’s latest video insinuates, I think he’s more bottled up in Baghdad than we knew. But with increased co-operation from the populace I believe he will be captured.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:13 pmyou will never win the war in Iraq never mind how long it takes you to realise this , then that embassy compound will become the new dictators palace with guards
May 4th, 2006 at 2:13 pmBush is damaging this country so fast now that it’s hard to keep up with all the crap and corruption! The Bush family are the PIRATES of our time, so they want to get as much loot as possible, and be damned to everybody else! America cannot survive this level of thievery! Unless Bush and Cheney are forced to resign, or be impeached, the United States is doomed to anarchy just like what they did to Iraq!
May 4th, 2006 at 2:13 pmBush has already stated that the US will not leave Iraq, as long as he is president. No suprise, that if this bill becomes law, he would then ignore the law. The US is not going to leave Iraq, as long as our primary energy supply is oil. After spending years saying this war was not about oil, at least the right wing is coming clean and admitting that control Iraqi oil, and control of Iranian oil are all they care about. Sadly 2400+ US troops and a lot of Iraqi’s died to achieve the PNAC agenda.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:14 pmIts amazing to think that an american goverment is willing to sacrifice 2500 soldiers every 3 years ,
May 4th, 2006 at 2:17 pmThose bases are already under construction — will construction be halted? I don’t think so.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:25 pmEither the amendment won’t become law or it will and then Bush will write one of his infamous “yeah, but this doesn’t apply to me” signing statements.
so MA, what you are saying is that we invaded Iraq to free the Sunnis and the Kurds from the Shia oppression only to have to protect the Shias and Kurds from Sunni oppression. Is that correct? Does that make sense?
May 4th, 2006 at 2:26 pm“The Lancet reported over 100,000 killed over a year ago. This was even before many of the crimes committed by U.S. troops, the Iraqi so-called army, and the government militias, who are all first-class killers, came to light. This brings the number to over 200,000 at the least. On the other hand, those people [Bush and those claiming less than 100,000 dead] not reporting the correct number of civilian casualties – that is a major crime in itself. It looks like they don’t give a damn how many Iraqi people get killed.”
Ps Love neil Young got it on napster today ” Lets Impeach the president”
May 4th, 2006 at 2:27 pmDon[’t they call this shutting the barn door after the horse is out. Read about the plans of the administration.
The bases aren’t permanent, just “enduring”
http://www.globalsecurity.org/ org/ news/ 2004/ 040323-enduring-bases.htm
May 4th, 2006 at 2:36 pmthis nonsense posturing for public consumption. permenant, temporary - just semantics. the bushliar-criminal will call bases planned for 40 years as temporary.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:40 pm.
Bases in Germany: good.
Bases in South Korea: good.
Bases in Iraq: NOOOO STOP EVIL BUSH NO!
Huh? Of all those three locations, having bases in Iraq makes the most strategic sense. Oh well. Apparently letting terrorists run the Middle East is a more viable option.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:41 pmI’m for permanant bases if the Mighty Hermaphrodite and the UGLYANVILHEAD are forced to live there for the rest of their lives.
We know that wont happen because stupid republicans are sissy’s who refuse to fight for their country.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:42 pmMA….I find it touching that all of a sudden you have all this concern for the Shias in Iraq
May 4th, 2006 at 2:42 pm#38 - MA, might I suggest a refresher course in reading comprehension? I don’t see where Faiz said it ‘is’ a law, he asks the questions “Will this be yet another law that….” not “Is this yet another law” - see the difference?
May 4th, 2006 at 2:42 pm#74 Sissy
May 4th, 2006 at 2:53 pmAnvilhead, you’re the internet equivalent of a tragic accident along side the highway - and I’m embarrassed that I slowed down to take a look. The alarm on your ‘freedom fry’ machine is going off, get back to work.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:56 pmSeixon sez……..”Of all those three locations, having bases in Iraq makes the most strategic sense.”
why is that……..to make sure the oil keeps flowing?
May 4th, 2006 at 2:58 pmThe security costs are keeping the private contractors from finishing any of the projects they were contracted to perform, like electricity, water, sewage, etc. But I’m not hearing about any wecurity problems at the new Embassy, or the new bases. That is a puzzler.
May 4th, 2006 at 2:58 pm*security
May 4th, 2006 at 3:00 pm$529 Million US embassy in Bagdad… can we say… rebuilding the Tower of Babel??
May 4th, 2006 at 3:02 pmaccording to Seixon reason #3,186 for the invasion of Iraq was to set up permanent bases
May 4th, 2006 at 3:03 pmWERE KILLLING ARABS AND MAKING OURSELVES AT HOME IN THEIR COUNTRIES. WERE MAKING THEM PAY FOR 911 AND FUTURE 911’s
AND WHOS GONNA STOP US? HUH?
YOU GONNA CRY NOW?
GO AHEAD CRY…. WANT SOME KLEENEX.
Comment by ANVILHEAD
No you benedict arnold bush supporters are PROTECTING THE SAUDI TERRORISTS THAT ATTACKED AMERICA ON 911.
And then you attack some other country of people that look the same and have a similar religion so that you can pretend that you are not the dirty traitors that you are. The day that you stop holding hands with the Saudis and burn BushCos money train bridge between Dallas and Riyadh THEN I might believe you are doing something about terrorism… as it is now you are Saudi appeasers. Saudi colaborators. Saudi appoligists. Saudi loyalists.
May 4th, 2006 at 3:04 pmNeo Con Saudi supporters are terrorist sympathizers, but hey! You call them allys ANVILHEAD…
The most interesting peice to the right wing posters, is they are no longer saying the invastion of Iraq was about WMD’s , freeing the Iraqi people are any other altruisic purpose. It is now a national security issue to ensure the remaing world oil supplies are largely under US control. I suppose this is a step in the right direction. maybe we can get them into a free thinking mode soon.
May 4th, 2006 at 3:04 pmbetween MA, ANVILHEAD and Seixon, I think the only honest one is ANVILHEAD
May 4th, 2006 at 3:07 pmSeixon sez……..â€Of all those three locations, having bases in Iraq makes the most strategic sense.â€
why is that……..to make sure the oil keeps flowing?
Comment by walter66
The spice must flow!
May 4th, 2006 at 3:10 pmHuh? Of all those three locations, having bases in Iraq makes the most strategic sense. Oh well. Apparently letting terrorists run the Middle East is a more viable option.
Comment by Seixon
How about we stop being beholden to their oil and get off the oil addiction all together and then let them “have” their own countries to do with as they please?
May 4th, 2006 at 3:11 pm#62 - “No suprise, that if this bill becomes law, he would then ignore the law.” -kRAZY
*****If you were lucky enough to be paid by the a$$umption - you’d be a very wealthy prog - “no surprise!”
#65 - Dear Walter - Please tell me you are just PRETENDING to be as stupid as you come across. (You and kRAZY must be in the same remedial “A$$umption Cla$$”)
We went into Iraq when Saddam failed to comply with the terms of the Gulf War Cease Fire Agreement.
Walter - Do you view energy and oil as vital national concerns?
May 4th, 2006 at 3:18 pm#82 Gerald Gibson…right on. The neocons are holding hands with the terrorists that flew planes into the World Trade Center Towers and the Pentagon.
Makes them terrorists too doesn’t it? Jail all conspirators! Jail all Republicans!
May 4th, 2006 at 3:19 pmMy bet is Bush won’t listen, therefore there will be no law to ignore. We need bases to protect our friends, the Iraqis. So it will be. While we fight to promote democracy and destroy tyranny and terror, liberals turn their backs on a policy they supported until there became an opportunity to gain political advantage. Biden is the worst offender. Can’t trust them libs.
May 4th, 2006 at 3:20 pmWalter666 - thank you for the compliment!!! post #84 - “between MA, ANVILHEAD and Seixon, I think the only honest one is ANVILHEAD
May 4th, 2006 at 3:21 pm“(You and kRAZY must be in the same remedial “A$$umption Cla$$â€) Mighty ASSumptions”
Bahaha, very funny coming from you. The DRAG QUEEN of A$$umptions.
May 4th, 2006 at 3:29 pm#74 No one is crying over not driving domestic policy. Everyone is crying that the driver is drunk, we’re running out of gas, and you left the parking brake on.
It’s not a matter of doing something, it’s a matter of doing it right.
May 4th, 2006 at 3:31 pm“Walter666 - thank you for the compliment!!! post #84 - “between MA, ANVILHEAD and Seixon, I think the only honest one is ANVILHEAD Comment by mighty Freak”
So you think it’s a compliment that you appear to be dishonest? Well considering that we’ve clearly established that you are a SOCIOPATH, and SOCIOPATHS lie compulsively - thanks for confirming that you at least know that you’re a psycho.
Hey, where did you learn how to spell ‘breech’ again? Was it in your ‘nightschool’ law school, or was it in the junior high you currently attend?
May 4th, 2006 at 3:32 pm“Bases in Germany: good. - Comment by Stupidone”
That depends on who you ask. Many americans and germans both think this is a bad idea.
“Bases in South Korea: good. - Comment by Stupidone”
This is perhaps the only major base in the world that makes sense, but I guess the million troops, and nuclear weapons on the other side of the border don’t factor into a RATIONAL decision as to why these troops are there?
“Bases in Iraq: NOOOO STOP EVIL BUSH NO! - Comment by Stupidone”
Wow, the first thing you’ve posted that wasn’t wrong - but then again you didn’t MEAN to be right, it was an accident.
Reality has a liberal bias, and you have the brain of an IDIOT.
May 4th, 2006 at 3:34 pmUmm if you pay attention to what the Iraqi’s say Red, they don’t seem to freindly towards the US. Mostly they want us to leave and leave now.
May 4th, 2006 at 3:34 pmWe also loves to blowup, use chemicals on,shoot,rape and torture the innocent in Iraq while we leave our soldiers underequiped.
May 4th, 2006 at 3:35 pm“*****If you were lucky enough to be paid by the a$$umption - you’d be a very wealthy prog - “no surprise!†- Comment by Mighty Moron”
Hehe, been there, done that - how about you? Oh that’s right, you WORK for a living, and all the while COMPLAIN about the lazy PROGS at your work. And yet you CLAIM you and your husband are entrepreneurs that own their own business? How did all of those PROGS end up working for you, were you just BAD at hiring, or is it hard to find fellow Nazis in the work force these days?
You shouldn’t SHARE so much about yourself Mighty Moron, it’s easy trip you up in your own lies. You aren’t smart enough to craft believable ones, and you don’t have a good enough memory to remember your own lies…
So in the end you become another STUPID and BORING troll Zzzzz….
May 4th, 2006 at 3:37 pmComment by red curly pubes
May 4th, 2006 at 3:39 pmI’m typing through my tears of laughter on that one.
That is the BEST troll parody name EVER!!!!!
Faiz - Did I miss your clarification of “bill” and “law” after the remedial Civics Class?? If I were your teacher at P.S. 101, I would instruct you to correct your paper which was written with very “sloppy information”. Be careful- “you’ll shoot your eye out…”
May 4th, 2006 at 3:57 pmAll you gotta do is tell the bush evangelicals about the bilderbergs, or the CFR Conspiracy, You Know the ‘Zions’.
Yes I read it all the Time. World Net Daily has all the books and all the Facts on Proven Conspiracies! Anne Coulter has her picture on that Site and everything! If Anne Coulter, a Prominent Lawyer with millions of followers, says its true, then I believe it. These People, the Bilderbergs and the masons want to enslave us and only the Falwell and Robertsons can save us, from the number of the Beast!
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/sarcasm on
May 4th, 2006 at 4:08 pmMighty Aphrodite is one of US!
May 4th, 2006 at 4:11 pmAren’t you Aphrodite! Those Bilderbergers want to destroy the Evangelicals! Im so glad you are here on this Librul Site Aphrodite!
These moonbats dont think Conspiracy at the Bilderbergs is real!
You tell them it is Aphrodite!
your a Evangelical Lawyer Right?
your getting booted out of japan soon…. they dont want you
your losing 6 bases in germany…. they dont want you
Saudi booted you out …. they dont want you
seems by having american bases on your land you ( might ) become the targets for russian Nuclear Missiles
cause america was the sole nation to No or veto a Vote on
For the non-use of nuclear weapons vs. non-nuclear states
You really need a NEW strong sensible president as Neil young has the guts to say
May 4th, 2006 at 4:20 pmand also I aggree Im fed up living with american conscious every day . these poor people in Iraq what did they ever do
No matter what fruitcake George says or does, the bases will be about as permanent as Cam Ranh Bay or Da Nang and the embassy will only serve as an escape platform for the last pieces of Halliburton human garbage to flee from in their helicopters. To all the moron trolls on the thread: Haven’t you ever heard of Viet Nam?
May 4th, 2006 at 4:38 pmThe military contractors are building permant bases.bushco will go ahead will their plans to take over the oil fields and where there is oil there is natural gas.
bush thinks he is far above the laws of this country. remember he was the one that said,”this would be easier if this was a dictorship and i was the dicator”…
750 broken laws later has anyone woken up yet????
May 4th, 2006 at 5:06 pmSouth Koreans are protesting a movement of a US base. Everyone hates us now.
Thanks GW.
heckuva job.
-GSD
May 4th, 2006 at 5:17 pmTell them the TRUTH Aphrodite! You know Don’t you?
May 4th, 2006 at 5:38 pmTell these Ad hominen Liberals, these Godless Serpents!
The Zionists want to Kill us Evangelicals!! Tell them Aphrodite. You cant speak bad of a Fellow Evangelical! Im not a Conspiravcy Nut!
Im not Im not It’s TRUTH!!.
Bilderbergers be damned !!
Come Back Aphrodite Come Back Rush Come Back Anne Coulter I should have never trusted you!
Why wont you tell them the “Truth” Aphrodite!??
Are you a -sniff sniff cry sob- bush hater now too??
What about our KING? Our Monarch George?
“Faiz - Did I miss your clarification of “bill†and “law†after the remedial Civics Class?? Comment by Mighty Pretend Lawyer”
Really? Because what Faiz posted was
That’s a FUTURE TENSE for those of you like the Mighty Moron who seems to never let the english language interfere with her lies and propaganda. Future tense means you ask a question of an event or scenario that has not yet happened. In this case the event could be that the bill will BECOME a law in the future, and also that that law might be ignored. With the construction of this sentence BOTH can be future tense events.
Now perhaps it’s because you’re still in junior high, and haven’t covered this in your grammar lessons, or perhaps you’re just ’slow’ - which is what most people probably presume about you. But it’s IRONIC you would lecture others about civics, when it’s clear you are utterly ignorant on matters of civics, law AND ENGLISH!
Bahaha, WHAT AN IDIOT - you really embarrass yourself every time you open your mouth/type on a keyboard. What a FOOL you are !!!! BAHAHAHA
May 4th, 2006 at 6:39 pmDear Presi -DENSE Womyn - Sounds like you need better bourbon - and stop dabbing it behind your ears….
May 4th, 2006 at 6:48 pmI believe Bush won’t listen, too… he already considers Congress an inconvenience to his agenda…
May 4th, 2006 at 7:27 pm#87 MA sez……”We went into Iraq when Saddam failed to comply with the terms of the Gulf War Cease Fire Agreement.” Is that where Iraq was supposed to destroy their wmd program……….and you are saying that Iraq did not comply?
“Walter - Do you view energy and oil as vital national concerns?”
so you are saying Iraq’s oil is one of our vital national concerns
first it’s about UN resolutions, then about the Shias and now it’s a vital national interest for the US to control Iraq’s oil.
Why the runaround? That’s why I said at least ANVILHEAD was at least honest and certainly not you with all your bluster………moron
May 4th, 2006 at 8:48 pmWhat kind of message does it send to Iraqi’s when we build a huge american complex on their land? No wonder their pissed.
May 4th, 2006 at 9:28 pmYes post 111 > Most of Baghdad is cluttered with trash, and blown up buildings, and hardly any electricity, but all Iraqis see the cranes constructing our new Embassy Fortress that will have its own power station, own water treatment plant, restaurants, nightclub, shops, swimming pool, tennis courts, golf course, gym, and other stuff! Iraqis will continue to suffer, but they will be reminded of the prosperity behind the walls of the Embassy Fortress!
May 4th, 2006 at 10:26 pmLet us be realistic, Rumsfeld is the Secretary of Defeat. Planning is certainly not his forte! I’d be surprised if he knew how to take a sh*t.
May 4th, 2006 at 10:46 pm#100
Thank you for reminding me of WordNetDaily. That’s soem interesting shit, and yes they are so far Right they are Left? Weird.
May 4th, 2006 at 10:56 pmMighty, he has a point, we do share some “radical” type beliefs possibly.
May 4th, 2006 at 10:58 pmThis is the real reason behind the ‘veto’ threat. They’re squeezing cat killer Frist from both ends….
May 4th, 2006 at 11:14 pmI don’t know if anyone has pointed this out yet, but he won’t even need to attach a signing statement for this one. ‘Weasel words’ alone will suffice in this case. By calling it an embassy it is technically under State, not DoD, and is therefore not a US military installation.You could have a whole division living and operating out of it, but if you have an ambassador as the ‘post commander’, so to speak, you can still claim its just a State Department facility.
May 4th, 2006 at 11:42 pmOne more thing…Judging by what we have here already on my base, it will have a Burger King, a Pizza Hut, Popeye’s Chicken, Green Beans Coffee and an AAFES car dealership.
May 4th, 2006 at 11:46 pmHey guys, hate to break it to you, but we are getting less oil from Iraq now than before the war. You know what I said was right, so stop being a bunch of whiny haters.
May 5th, 2006 at 1:01 amIf anyone is wondering what is behind the billion dollar embassy in Baghdad, I would suggest you look up the 1958 novel by Burdick and Lederer “The Ugly American”.
In the novel, a Burmese journalist says “For some reason, the people I meet in my country are not the same as the ones I knew in the United States. A mysterious change seems to come over Americans when they go to a foreign land. They isolate themselves socially. They live pretentiously. They’re loud and ostentatious.”
The phrase “ugly Americans” came to be applied to Americans behaving in this way.
That attitude which seemed like a thing of the past, has now come back with the takeover of Iraq by the Neocons. They’re the new Ugly Americans.
The embassy is a colonial enclave from which American civilization is suppose to spread throughout the Middle East. We are not told yet which megachurch brand will get the fundamentalist franchise but we’ll know soon enough.
NavelHead is not off the mark as far as the intention….. How is it going to turn out?
Judging by past imperial history in the area, Americans are in for a lot of pain!
May 5th, 2006 at 1:25 am# 104 thot’s; You’re good.
May 5th, 2006 at 1:56 amUnfortunately you all have it wrong. The U.S. attacking Iraq isn’t about terrorism or oil. It’s about the Euro. Saddam stopped accepting dollars for oil in 2000. At the time people chalked it up to that “crazy Saddam”. He actually made a 20% bonus with that move as the Euro is a stronger currency than the dollar. That is why we will attack Iran, for in March they set up an oil cartel that will only deal in Euros. European countries are quietly supporting this as well as most of the rest of the world we have terrorized for so many years. The first thing the govt. did after killing countless innocent people was to cancel all Euro contracts and demand dollars for Iraqi oil. The rest of the world is very tired of subsidizing our inflated way of life through the ‘inflation tax’ that needing to have huge dollar reserves takes from the continually decreasing value of the dollar. That is coming to an end and the result will be financial meltdown of the Economy and we have no one to blame but ourselves. China holds our morguage and we can’t possibly pay it. For a concice look at the deep deep shit we are in, Google petro dollar and see for yourself what is about to happen to the U.S. It ain’t going to be pretty and WWIII is a distinct possibility. When a mad dog is cornered, you have a very dangerous beast on your hands. When the multi trillions of essentially counterfeit dollars come back home it will be worse than your worst nightmare. Good luck, I moved out of the aptly named ‘great Satan’ long ago to live in a real Democracy, and pretty much the entire world is looking foward to the end of America as you know it. Aside from our lapdog Briton, we have no allys left, and why should we? No need to worry about gas prices because you won’t be able to afford a car.
May 5th, 2006 at 2:47 amPost 123 what nation did you move to? Just curious I would like to move to Zurich, Switzerland!
May 5th, 2006 at 2:53 am# 124 AssClown;why don’t you move up into somebody’s ass.
May 5th, 2006 at 3:13 amWow. Nice Enlightened discourse toward the end there. I think it can’t be pinned to one factor. Too many hands in the pot. But I do think the war is an expression of numerous corrupt financial interests operating within our government. Think Teapot Dome.
May 5th, 2006 at 6:02 amDear Presi -DENSE Womyn - Sounds like you need better bourbon - and stop dabbing it behind your ears….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 4, 2006 @ 6:48 pm
Who knows this kind of lunactic nonsense? Only those crazy enough to actually do it themselves. And it’s not even funny. You never are. Just very sad. Give it up.
May 5th, 2006 at 7:31 amunbelievable > what is the deal with E-coli #125 nut on here? Is this another screenname for Mighty Moron now masquerading as a foul mouth male, instead of a female? Very strange, but best to ignore a troll who uses vulgar profanity!
May 5th, 2006 at 8:58 amwell, the bush isn’t building “permanent” bases in Iraq, anyway. He’s building “enduring” bases. That’ll fix those pesky congress people.
May 5th, 2006 at 12:02 pm#38 - MA, might I suggest a refresher course in reading comprehension? I don’t see where Faiz said it ‘is’ a law, he asks the questions “Will this be yet another law that….†not “Is this yet another law†- see the difference?
Comment by Quadrajet
I must second Quadrajet’s comment. Faiz’s comment is phrased in the future tense–something Mighty Hypocrite either doesn’t comprehend or is deliberately twisting and nitpicking where there aren’t even any nits to pick, such as when he/she on another thread criticized a comparison I never even made between Japanese and Iranian culture.
May 5th, 2006 at 6:18 pmANVILHEAD; You ain’t got the brains that God gave geese. So just SHUT UP!
May 5th, 2006 at 9:14 pmI think we should pull our military out of Korea and Japan and have them finish cleaning out the vermin in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Bases in South Korea: good.
Bases in Iraq: NOOOO STOP EVIL BUSH NO!
Huh? Of all those three locations, having bases in Iraq makes the most strategic sense. Oh well. Apparently letting terrorists run the Middle East is a more viable option.
Comment by Seixon —
Very interesting that these two reichwing trolls see absolutely no threat from North Korea, which already has nuclear weapons. Or maybe they just don’t care about the fate of South Korea and Japan, since they aren’t sources of oil and, in fact, may be competition for the US in acquiring it from the Middle East, etc. What hypocrisy!
May 5th, 2006 at 9:47 pmTo #124 I moved to a second home I have in Costa Rica if you really want to know. Some of the idiotic posts here are astounding. Particularly the aptly named ANVILHEAD. Someone buy him a ticket and send this idiot down here to me please. I’ve already dug a hole to bury his sorry ass in. And to ANVILHEAD, I’ll bet my life you’re just another chickenhawk that would crap your knickers if you had to face combat. You poor pathetic excuse for a human being. I’d love to introduce you to my good friend Mr. Kalishnakov.
May 6th, 2006 at 5:18 am[…] As ThinkProgress noted last month, the Senate acted to unanimously pass an amendment to the supplemental spending bill that clearly stated that none of the appropriated funds should be used for permanent base construction. In March, Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) wrote on ThinkProgress that the House had unanimously accepted her amendment prohibiting permanent base construction. […]
June 9th, 2006 at 6:25 pm[…] As ThinkProgress noted last month, the Senate acted to unanimously pass an amendment to the supplemental spending bill that clearly stated that none of the appropriated funds should be used for permanent base construction. In March, Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) wrote on ThinkProgress that the House had unanimously accepted her amendment prohibiting permanent base construction. […]
June 9th, 2006 at 9:21 pm[…] Two years ago, word leaked that the U.S. was building a series of "enduring bases" throughout Iraq, "designed to last for years." Critics have demanded a pledge from the White House for no permanent bases. (Such a move would negate the whole neoconservative basis for the war — control the oil spiget through a projection of military power in the region as a hedge against China.) The Senate passed legislation to that effect and the provision was removed in conference. […]
December 17th, 2006 at 2:36 amWe have known about permanent bases for years. There are 12-14 of them either constructed or being constructed and the Taj of world wide Embassies must be about finished by now. Bush chose, and will choose, to ignore Congress and their pitiful amendments and resolutions. Without actual indictments and immediate impeachment proceedings, you might as well kiss America “goodbye”. Nearly every day the Republican administration finds new things to prevent our Democracy from functioning. Courts, civil rights, habeas corpus, wire tapping, spying, Republican overseers, ecology, economy, have all been tampered with or destroyed. Ignoring laws and the Constitution has, so far, caused no problems for the neo-coms. They plan to stay in Iraq. They plan to get richer off the oil. They plan to take Iran’s oil and any other country’s oil. The war fits right into these plans. Out of chaos comes order.
February 23rd, 2007 at 7:55 pmThe order being “complete domination of the oil fields”.
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