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CNN: Goss Resignation Is Complete Shock To Defense Dept., Fueling Speculation Over Backstory»

Jamie McIntyre, CNN’s senior Pentagon correspondent:

Well you know Tony we’re trying to find the story behind the story, what’s actually going on here with Porter Goss. And talking with intelligence officials here in the building, I can tell you it came as a complete surprise to them.

In fact, Porter Goss was apparently supposed to attend a regularly scheduled afternoon meeting that takes place right about this time in the afternoon. The Defense Department has representatives there and, according to sources, none of the people at that meeting had any advance word that Porter Goss was going to be tendering his resignation.

So it indicates the sudden nature that this took place, and again it just fuels the speculation of what the real backstory is here. And again, nobody here seems to know. They are all all just really surprised, they had no idea this was coming. And they’re really just wondering what was actually behind it.

Learn about the backstory HERE.

UPDATE: Goss releases a statement. Still no explanation as to why he resigned now.




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73 Responses to “CNN: Goss Resignation Is Complete Shock To Defense Dept., Fueling Speculation Over Backstory”

  1. lib4 Says:

    Well could you at least speculate that Hookergate may have some role in the sudden resignation…..

    quit playing dumb CNN……………..


  2. Sunhawk Says:

    That be my first thought too.

    Second is… “What does he know the adminstration doesn’t?” ^_^


  3. mr. thinkfree Says:

    Could it be…

    Prostitutes?


  4. Grand Moff Texan Says:

    The pre$$titutes are already trying to push the angle that this was in the works for weeks, and therefore no big deal.

    Push back.
    .


  5. barfly Says:

    Blowjobs? Please God, let there be BLOWJOBS!

    NOW we’re talking about a scandal the American people can understand!


  6. Quisp Says:

    Hookers!


  7. Zookeeper Says:

    Porter Goss resigned to spend more time with the hookers.


  8. Erroll Says:

    This seems to be a variation of what Claude Rains tells Bogart in Casablanca, except instead of gambling the indignation will be “We are shocked, shocked! to find out that prostitution was going on around here”. The irony, of course, is that this is happening at the CIA, where intelligence is supposed to be the strong suit at that organization.


  9. Stupid Republicans Says:

    Go to Moores site http://www.michaelmoore.com

    He has the clip from Fahrenhiet where Goss admits he is not qualified for the CIA

    Priceless!


  10. chisholm Says:

    Jamie McIntyre needs to read unhinged left wing blogs. Jesus, what an out-of-the-loop dolt–we’ve been on this story for how long?


  11. Badmoodman Says:

    Negroponte asked Goss to step down. Lots of testosterone being flung around D.C.


  12. big papa Says:

    MESSAGE TO BUSHIVA:

    “Don’t fu*k with the CIA!”

    MESSAGE TO DISGRUNTLED CIA OPERATIVES:

    “Please get Roger Ailes at Fox, and all the other heads of the Bush propaganda networks”…

    …we need to clear out Bushiva’s propaganda network so that when he’s impeached and brought to justice…

    …his ability to spin will be nil

    Watching the Fox Propaganda network’s spin, and CNN’s skirting around their CERTAIN knowledge…

    …that Goss is going to be implicated in the Cunningham/Defense contractor/Watergate prostitution/corruption debalce

    …is frustrating, but still satisfying…


  13. Linda Says:

    Doesn’t he have to put a two week notice in like the rest of us? This will not look good on his resume…


  14. Jay Randal Says:

    Congratulations ThinkProgress and Judd you have helped to take down Porter Goss a vile Bush loving stooge and thug! Bravo for your post on that DC sex scandal > Goss was involved!


  15. Stupid Republicans Says:

    ABC NEWS BRIEF: Kennedy appeared drunk when he crashed his car..

    What? No mention of “Hookergate”?

    Thank god, real Americans get their news from the internet.


  16. Rich in Fat Little Brother Land Says:

    Check out this interesting link to Porter Goss’ past.

    I got if from a posting on Firedoglake.

    Maybe its real serious………………………….

    http://www.findarticles.com/ p/ articles/ mi_m1571/ is_30_16/ ai_64426325


  17. chisholm Says:

    #11 This isn’t a power play. Timing is much too coincidental with Fornigate. “Bridge to Darkness” may have pushed him out because he saw the writing on the wall, but Goss is only going because he knows he’s in serious sh*t. I think this is also much bigger than hookers–it’s about complicity in Foggo’s contract-awarding crimes.


  18. Canuck Stuck in Muck Says:

    But, but, what’s this got to do with Jack Abramoff? Just kidding. Forni-gate trumps DeLay’s Abramoff ‘problems’, Mehlman’s phone-jamming problems, Frist’s ‘blind-trust’ problems, Ney’s ‘Cunningham’ problems, Cheney’s ‘face-peppering’ problem, Gannon’s problems, Colbert’s ‘chilly-climate’ problems, and my personality disorder all put together!


  19. Canuck Stuck in Muck Says:

    In fact (and sorry for this addendum) I think RICO statutes should be invoked at this point, and then the entire federal government can get in on the act! Stiffer penalties for conspiracy, for transporting women for the purposes of prostitution, you name it. Everyone who attended those parties will now be at pains to show cause why they should not be included in a conspiracy indictment.


  20. Pete Says:

    I wonder how long it will take before they find his body, a “suicide” it will be ruled, convenient for the people who would most stand to lose should he be subpeoned and asked to testify in any number of ongoing investigations….


  21. Stupid Republicans Says:

    #16, good find.

    Funny that Goss was bidding for Tenents job when in Fahrenhiet 911 he claimed he was not qualified.


  22. SuperEdo Says:

    Does this count as “everything falling apart”, or is that still on the way?


  23. Pete Says:

    that’s SUBPEONAED… lol


  24. Stupid Republicans Says:

    #20 Pete, funny you should mention suicide….read the article in post #16


  25. big papa Says:

    Will somebody PLEASE pull the plug on Fox!

    …permanently…


  26. Lindsey Says:

    #20 - how long did it take before Vince Foster committed “suicide.”

    I can’t wait til the left loses in November. No mercy on America haters.


  27. Pete Says:

    Just did, and I swear I had not when I posted my two cents. This man obviously had ambition to direct the CIA, so his stepping down so abruptly begs the question why? I think it may have more to do with plamegate than hookers. Ahh what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive…


  28. Ben Says:

    Rep. Patrick Kennedy will enter rehab for addiction to prescription pain medication Friday evening after a highly publicized car crash near the Capitol.

    Kennedy, D-R.I., plans to seek treatment at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn.

    TP’s policy is to only post scandals that involve conservatives. At least Patrick had the courtesy not to drive over a bridge with a passenger and let them drown while he went home and subsequently arrange a coverup to protect his corrupt political career.


  29. Pete Says:

    Lindsey Lindsey Lindsey. You are part of the roughly 30% of the population left still stupid enough to buy into the right wing bullshit. You are a minority, so you have absolutely NO credibility to make the claim that people who don’t agree with your emperor and his 4th reich hate America. It is backwards ass ignorant rednecks like yourself that hate America. Why else would you support a despot who is trampling our rights and our constitutiuon?


  30. barfly Says:

    The silence from the chickenhawk squadron is deafening. I guess today they have “other priorities.” At least they’re playing true to form, and sitting this one out.


  31. Pete Says:

    #28: The difference between Rush and Kennedy is Rush committed a FELONY by doctor shopping.


  32. Jay Randal Says:

    Agents of the CIA are told to never compromise themselves with prostitutes, because foreign governments can use them as spies to get classified information in the heat of lovemaking! For the CIA Director to do this is extremely serious and the reason for his abrupt resignation!


  33. Lindsey Says:

    Pete - you hang onto polls (which also show Dems in the dumps, I might add) and I will hang onto my congressional majority. Frist and Hastert might be shitheads, but they are better than the hatemongering left.

    What will it say about Democrats when Bush is polling 20% and they still can’t take Congress? Here’s a hint - they have no agenda or plan to solve the countries problems except to call Bush a liar.

    Pete - talk to me after Kavanaugh and Boyle are confirmed - lol!


  34. Lindsey Says:

    #33 - how dare you report news before it happened.

    In related news, Jay Randal raped a 9 year old boy.


  35. barfly Says:

    Ben #28

    Or wait twelve hours to report shooting someone in the face.

    You seem to have intimate knowledge of the events - or you’re just making up crap. Were you there? Try for a scandal in the last couple of decades (we’ve got plenty of republican ones if you haven’t noticed). I guess you can’t use Whitewater for that though, as this one involves republican blowjobs, and that would be a little too hypocritical - even for you.


  36. Jay Randal Says:

    Porter Goss came into the CIA to remove any agents who refused to pledge themselves to the Bush Regime! Valerie Plame Wilson was one of those agents who Goss helped to destroy! Ray McGovern has been retired for several years, but he has ties to agents still in the CIA who oppose Bush and his war for OIL! Elements inside the CIA did payback on Goss and exposed his laisons with hookers! Payback/revenge is a bitch > lol.


  37. Lindsey Says:

    Jay Randal raped a 9 year old boy.


  38. barfly Says:

    how dare you report news before it happened.

    In related news, Jay Randal raped a 9 year old boy.

    Comment by Lindsey — May 5, 2006 @ 3:22 pm

    Linsey enlists! . . . Hey, this is fun! Your turn. . .


  39. barfly Says:

    how dare you report news before it happened.

    In related news, Jay Randal raped a 9 year old boy.

    Comment by Lindsey — May 5, 2006 @ 3:22 pm

    Linsdey enlists! . . . Hey, this is fun! Your turn. . .


  40. terry Says:

    Well it could be an American Profuma (sp?) Affair, but given the arrogance and hubris which has dominated Dumbya’s administration, I am holding out for something juicier.


  41. Jay Randal Says:

    LOL post 34 you must be a Bush lover and Goss agent on here! I am not a pedophile but go ask Goss if he likes boys or girls?


  42. madashell Says:

    seriously - you must see Republican Hypocrisy Revealed


  43. AvengingAngel Says:

    The downfall of Porter Goss couldn’t be more fitting. In the wake of the CIA’s utter failure on 9/11 and its abdication to the White House on Iraq WMD, President Bush appointed a partisan hack to lead the American intelligence effort during the war against Al Qaeda. During the 2004 election, then Congressman Goss and House intelligence committee leader repeatedly attacked Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, including a bilous op-ed piece titled “Need Intelligence? Don’t Ask John Kerry.” Upon taking the reins of the CIA, Goss started a politically motivated purge, driving essential senior analysts and leaders out of the agency. And back in February, Goss penned a cynical New York Times op-ed (”Loose Lips Sink Spies”) threatening to persecute leakers and claiming that he “filed criminal reports with the Department of Justice because of such compromises,” while maintaining silence of the outing of CIA agent and Iran nuclear program expert Valerie Plame. As Goss put it in 2004, “Somebody sends me a blue dress and some DNA, I’ll have an investigation.”

    For the full story, see:
    “Goss Goes Down Over HookerGate?”



  44. RunningDogLackey Says:

    Franklin Child Sex Ring Part II.

    Dubya just has to do EVERYTHING bigger ‘n’ badder than his old man.


  45. Pete Says:

    Lindsey, the hatemongering left are the almost 70% of the nation that wants to see democrats run congress. LOL. keep living in your fantasy world. The real world has already passed you by. The only way you people can hold on to power is by lying, cheating, and stealing. I don’t think this time around Americans will allow Diebold to steal another election. Face it, conservatives finally got their dream of all three branches, and they have crashed head on with a brick wall. That’s a good thing though; it finally exposed the GOP for what it really is: the political wing of the corporation, and the KKK without the sheets.


  46. my name is Laa.. aaa... ry Says:

    What or who was behind Goss’s actions? That would depend on if he is a” top” or a “bottom”.


  47. Irresponsible Speculator Says:

    I’d like to think he had his tallywhacker caught in the hookergate wringer, but given the peevishness and petulance of our leader, at whose pleasure Goss was serving, combined with the ex-CIA analyst’s verbal challenge to Rumsfeld in Atlanta the other day, I have a hunch he’s getting canned for allowing that to happen. Or refusing to terminate.


  48. billjpa Says:

    Maybe the foggo is starting to lift!


  49. Zookeeper Says:

    #44 - Dammit! I knew that was Horsley and I still looked. Brillo pad to the eyes….


  50. madashell Says:

    Zookeeper - sorry…


  51. JPark Says:

    Ugh, Ben and Lindsey leave a bad taste in my mouth. Oh, yeah, backwash always does.


  52. Stupid Republicans Says:

    The silence from the chickenhawk squadron is deafening. I guess today they have “other priorities.

    They’re hiding the kiddie porn.


  53. Paul in Mexico Says:

    39 - RANDALL HAS GOT IT RIGHT!

    Porter Goss was put in the catbird seat by Bush for one reason, and one reason only. To get rid of all the CIA agents who happened to be dems, liberals or progressives.

    Bush wanted nothing but ultra-rightwing cronies in the CIA, those who would do the bidding of the White House.

    Goss is involved in HOOKERGATE, up to his jock strap. Bet on it. All the TOP level of the CIA, all pukes beholden to Bush, are involved.

    Guess who dug all this up? The Defense Intelligence Agency which is Rummies outfit. Look for a huge shuffle once again in the intelligence agencies as Rumhead is going to be put in as head of ALL intelligence. This is what Rummy has been shooting for since he has been in the cabinet. He has been backstabbing everyone connected with the intelligence services. Bush has been egging him on.

    There is more to come folks! Loooooooook out.


  54. Lora Says:

    TP’s policy is to only post scandals that involve conservatives. At least Patrick had the courtesy not to drive over a bridge with a passenger and let them drown while he went home and subsequently arrange a coverup to protect his corrupt political career.

    Comment by Ben

    #28 Ben,
    And you, on the other hand, appear to be concerned only with scandals and bad news involving Democrats. If you are so interested in an accident that happened in the 1960s, how about commenting on the following?
    from Wikipedia:
    “On November 6, 1963, 2 days after she turned 17, Bush (then Laura Welch) was driving her Chevrolet sedan with her classmate Judy Dyke. It was shortly after 8 p.m. on a clear night when Welch entered the intersection of State Highway 349 and Texas Farm Road 868 (now a four lane highway). Welch drove through the intersection’s stop sign and collided with a Chevrolet Corvair sedan killing classmate and boyfriend Michael Dutton Douglas, also 17. Welch and Dyke sustained minor injuries; Douglas was later pronounced dead on arrival at Midland Memorial Hospital. Welch was not criminally charged in connection with the collision.”


  55. The Daily Background Says:

    […] Earlier today, CIA Director and Bush appointee Porter Goss resigned. I wrote a little bit about him here, after he resigned, in which I mentioned that he was unqualified for his job by his own direct admission. I didn’t speculate at the time about the reasons for the abrupt and unexpected resignation however (FDL has a word on who his replacement might be). Well, a few hours have passed, and the most widespread thing that’s going around is that his extremely abrupt resignation (the Department of Defense had no idea this was coming) was prompted by ‘something that happened this week.’ What could that mean? Only one thing. Hookergate. He was already rumored to be involved in the prostitution/bribery/poker scandal, and I wouldn’t be surprised if some more concrete links started showing up soon. […]


  56. Ben Dover Says:

    I agree with the headline of this post. There is definitely a backsidestory here.


  57. TSop Says:

    Rummy just officially got into the ‘intelligence business’.


  58. Jay Randal Says:

    Post 54 Paul is correct > there is a battle going on inside the Bush Regime, because all their lies on Iraq are getting exposed, and Ray McGovern upsetting Rumsfeld caused a feud between the CIA and the Pentagon to boil to the surface! Rummy must have got pissed off and demanded that Goss be terminated for not shutting up McGovern, as well as the sex scandal coming to light sped up the need for house cleaning at the CIA! Lots more to be exposed if the press would stay on this story like glue, instead of sniffing the Kennedy drunken driving event!


  59. mighty aphrodite Says:

    #55 - I hope to God, Lora that you NEVER blow through a stop sign and have a horrible accident. The differences between Laura Welch Bushes’ accident and Ted the Swimmer criminal negligence are: she didn’t run home, lock the door, call her cousin to alibi up, AND fail to seek help for 10 hours. Mary Jo Kopechne did not drown - she suffocated because the self-centered coward, Ted the Swimmer, was too embarassed to get her help in time to save her life. Rational people understand the difference between these two horrible circumstances. Hmmmm….rational….THAT’S why you cannot seem to discern the difference.


  60. Lora Says:

    #60 Mighty Hypocrite,
    I have been the victim in a car accident caused by someone who ignored the proper signals. Obviously I survived but not without considerable pain and the inability to move my neck to the right for nearly three years.
    You were not present at either Laura Welch Bush’s accident nor at Ted Kennedy’s, so all your tripe is mere speculation.


  61. Lora Says:

    #62, 63: Ryan,
    I’m glad you brought up the shock factor. After hastily posting my comment in #61, I realized that I had forgotten to mention the element of shock. I was simply the passenger in an automobile that was crashed into and bore absolutely no responsibility for the accident I was in, but I know that shock affected my behavior. I didn’t even feel any pain at first, so the inexperienced MD on duty at the hospital I was taken to on a Sunday night didn’t examine me so well–didn’t even take an x-ray. Two mornings later my back and neck ached so badly that I could move; after that, needless to say, a more experienced doctor found several things wrong with me.
    Anyway, this thread is supposed to be about Porter Goss and scandals surrounding him; we shouldn’t let the trolls divert us too much from the real topic.


  62. mighty aphrodite Says:

    #61 - “You were not present at either Laura Welch Bush’s accident nor at Ted Kennedy’s, so all your tripe is mere speculation.” - Comment by Lora
    ****Witness testimony is available as long as the testimony is not impeached. Ted the Swimmer’s cousin, Joe Gagnon, appears to have good recall. An autopsy was perfomed contrary to your sisters’ posting. It revealed the cause of Mary Jo Kopechnes’ death and the fact she was not pregnant.

    You’re right about this thread and the topic of Porter Goss. YOU brought up Laura Bushs’ accident - remember???


  63. Emboldened » Blog Archive » Speculation of accountability? Says:

    […] Yet the Bush administration is now spinning Goss as having never connected to Bush, a square peg and a round hole. They say he was forced out, in part by Negroponte, because he just wasn’t capable of working how Bush wanted. Claiming an official had been on the chopping block for weeks doesn’t carry water when we know Goss had meetings scheduled for the time of his resignation and the DoD was shocked that he wasn’t there to liaise with them. Claiming Goss is quitting because of the pending indictment of a subordinate no one has ever heard of is equally specious. The fact that Johnson’s sources at the CIA are telling him Goss is leaving because of Foggo’s connections to Wilkes’ sex for contracts scheme, to me at least, hints at either a larger role for Goss in the same scandal or a similarly damning involvement in some heretofore unknown scandal. As Josh Marshall wrote yesterday, We don’t know definitely why Goss pulled the plug yet. But the CIA Director doesn’t march over to the White House and resign, effective immediately, unless something very big is up. […]


  64. Lora Says:

    You’re right about this thread and the topic of Porter Goss. YOU brought up Laura Bushs’ accident - remember???
    An autopsy was perfomed contrary to your sisters’ posting

    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    To Mighty Hypocrite,
    I brought up Laura Welch Bush’s accident in response to #28 Ben’s posting on Patrick Kennedy’s accident, remember??? It’s right there in my posting #55. (And, for once or twice, I will imitate your penchant for over-punctuation.) And I do recall seeing your repeated mention of Ted Kennedy’s accident in several related threads, even if you don’t remember. It seems to be one of your obsessions, remember?????
    Incidentally, sisters’ (with the apostrophe after the final “s”) refers to plural sisters–not one sister. I indeed do have more than one sister, but they don’t post here nor are they named Ryan (nor is my brother for that matter). I see from your putting the apostrophe after the “s” instead of before it in Laura Bushs’(SIC) and Mary Jo Kopechnes’(SIC) that you are unfamiliar with its usage. And we’re all supposed to believe that you managed to graduate from law school?


  65. Lora Says:

    #66 Mighty Hypocrite,
    Since Ryan claimed in #62 that Mary Jo Kopechne wasn’t autopsied and you claimed she was, I looked up, and then copied and pasted the following about Ted Kennedy’s accident from Wikipedia:

    “The car plunged into tide-swept Poucha Pond (at that location a channel) and landed upside down under the water. Kopechne died, but as no autopsy was performed, the precise cause of death is unknown………

    Kennedy discussed the accident with several people, including his lawyer, before he contacted the police.

    The next morning (July 19, 1969) the police recovered Kennedy’s car. Kopechne’s body was discovered by diver John Farrar, who observed that a large amount of air was released from the car when it was righted in the water, and that the trunk, when opened, was remarkably dry. These observations and others have led some to believe that Kopechne had not drowned, but suffocated in an air pocket within the car.”

    Would you care to list your source about Kopechne’s supposed autopsy and that she died from suffocation?
    Ps. I noticed that you brought up the Kennedy accident again on an unrelated thread about Rumsfeld. If you continue to keep on bringing this up practically every chance you get, you can most likely expect others to remind you that your dear first lady also caused an accident that took a young life. So give it up already.


  66. Bring it On! » Blog Archive » Goss: Speculation of accountability? Says:

    […] Yet the Bush administration is now spinning Goss as having never connected to Bush, a square peg and a round hole. They say he was forced out, in part by Negroponte, because he just wasn’t capable of working how Bush wanted. Claiming an official had been on the chopping block for weeks doesn’t carry water when we know Goss had meetings scheduled for the time of his resignation and the DoD was shocked that he wasn’t there to liaise with them. Claiming Goss is quitting because of the pending indictment of a subordinate no one has ever heard of is equally specious. The fact that Johnson’s sources at the CIA are telling him Goss is leaving because of Foggo’s connections to Wilkes’ sex for contracts scheme, to me at least, hints at either a larger role for Goss in the same scandal or a similarly damning involvement in some heretofore unknown scandal. As Josh Marshall wrote yesterday, We don’t know definitely why Goss pulled the plug yet. But the CIA Director doesn’t march over to the White House and resign, effective immediately, unless something very big is up. Foggo isn’t big and the Bush administration has never valued accountability as a hallmark of leadership. My money is still on Goss accepting free sex in exchange for millions of dollars of defense contracts to MZM and ADCS, which unfortunately for Goss is a far more serious crime than adultery. […]


  67. mighty aphrodite Says:

    Lora - Thank you for the English punctuation lessons. As I type more rapidly than I handwrite, your attention to minute detail is appreciated.

    Wikipedia is NOT the most reliable source for info - but the fact it was determined post-mortem that Ms. Kopechne was not pregnant and did not have water in her lungs suggests the opposite of your well punctuated assertion.

    Thank you!!


  68. Lora Says:

    #72
    You’re welcome. Now would you like to tell us the sources you used about Ms. Kopechne, so that all of us can judge whether or not they are known to be more accurate than wikipedia?


  69. unbelievable Says:

    You’re welcome. Now would you like to tell us the sources you used about Ms. Kopechne, so that all of us can judge whether or not they are known to be more accurate than wikipedia?

    Comment by Lora — May 7, 2006 @ 5:31 pm

    Because, like MA told me, if you can’t give your sources, then how can anyone take you seriously? (Although my source was myself and I said so repeatedly, he refused to answer my question, just asked for irrelevent sources).

    I guess he doesn’t get that if you don’t do an autopsy, you can’t determine what’s in someone’s lungs, or what officially killed them. Maybe she held her breath. I knew someone who almost drowned to death, and he’d done some research on the subject out of morbid curiosity. People will hold their breath until they suffocate themselves. Rare, but possible… but without an autopsy… well, it’s all speculation.


  70. Lora Says:

    To unbelievable,
    You apparently got the job you were hoping for, so congratulations and good luck with it.
    Frankly, it doesn’t matter that much to me whether Mary Jo Kopechne died by drowning or of suffocation. But I do think people who insist that they are right and what they write/say is a fact ought to be able to state their sources. However, our usually loquacious Mighty Hypocrite has suddenly become silent–not that this surprises me here.
    Incidentally, I was recently asked to look over a translation from Japanese into “Engrish” (spelling deliberate) done by a Japanese person. The translator consistently wrote “low” for what should have been “law” or “laws,” but maybe this wouldn’t have even been a misspelling or mistranslation if he/she had meant it about our silly troll–the phony attorney.


  71. unbelievable Says:

    Lora,

    Thanks. I did.

    Know what you mean about MA. He’s not here to debate - just to condescend or insult. Not very goos at it either. Does not lack the ability to offer an argument. Hardly an example of a law school graduate - or should I say ‘low’ school :). How very funny - and appropriate!


  72. Dr.Q Says:

    People take decitions on basis of need. It is not the first nor will be the last time an agency official will renounce his or her position.



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