ThinkFast: May 5, 2006
ThinkFast: May 5, 2006
The Bush administration is refusing to talk directly with a host of regimes it criticizes, including Iran, Syria, and the Palestinian government led by Hamas. Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage criticized this approach: “[D]iplomacy is not simply meant for our friends. It is meant for our enemies. … In fact, our enemies need diplomatic engagement more. We ought to have sufficient self-confidence in the correctness of our policy and the ability of our diplomats.”
33: Approval rating of President Bush, his lowest ever as recorded by an AP-Ipsos poll. Bush has also lost the support of his base: “Forty-five percent of self-described conservatives now disapprove of the president.â€
The House yesterday overwhelmingly approved a $7.4 billion port security bill, though conservatives bowed to industry and “blocked consideration of a Democratic amendment that would have required that all cargo be screened before it leaves foreign ports for the United States.”
A sad commentary on the way Americans must carry themselves abroad: “The official team bus to be used by the United States during the World Cup will not bear a flag for security reasons. The 32 official buses were presented Thursday in Frankfurt and the other 31 buses have large national flags of the teams painted on rear sides.â€
“Under intense pressure,” Rep. Charles H. Taylor (R-NC) has agreed to “drop his effort to block federal funds for a memorial to the passengers and crew of United Airlines Flight 93.”
Students at the Broad Creek Middle School in North Carolina write to Mark Rey, under secretary of agriculture, to protest his proposal to sell 309,000 acres of National Forest land. “What is the deal with cutting down the Croatan National Forest? … How would you like it if we cut down some trees around your house?” Meanwhile, President Bush’s nominee to be the next Secretary of the Interior distanced himself from the proposed sale.
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) says “he’s not surprised by allegations of prostitution” in former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham’s case. “If I’m trying to connect dots, this is not a surprising outcome.”
Cheney friend and Petroleum Finance Corporation head J. Robinson West candidly discusses the effects of peak oil: “Worldwide production will peak. The result will be skyrocketing prices, with a huge, sustained economic shock. … For the last 20 years, U.S. policy has discouraged production and encouraged consumption. If we dither any more, we will pay a terrible price, the economic equivalent of a Category 5 hurricane.â€
The federal government’s no-fly list continues to malfunction, often trapping government officials with security clearances. Examples: an active-duty Army officer who holds a top-secret clearance, a State Department diplomat, and Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-MA).
“Poor women in America are increasingly likely to have unwanted pregnancies,” a new study shows. Asked to explain the trend, authors “noted that some state and federal reproductive health programs have been cut or made more restrictive in recent years.” Analysts suspect the shift to abstinence-only education “is leading to less use of contraceptives and more unintended pregnancies.”
And finally: Yesterday the Do-Nothing Congress tried to prove it does more than nothing. The House Government Reform Committee took up the important business of approving H. Res. 753, commending “American craft brewers;” H. Con. Res. 399, recognizing “the 30th anniversary of the victory of United States winemakers at the 1976 Paris Wine Tasting;” and H. Res. 327, affirming support for “the goals and ideals of National Passport Month.”
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U.N. grills U.S. on torture ban
TP, you forgot this one, it should make all your (dirty) hippies happy.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:03 amYesterday the Do-Nothing Congress tried to prove it does more than nothing.
Not to exclude the notion of a Constitutional ban on flag burning! They can’t bother with oil prices, illegal immigration, Katrina clean-up, the war in Iraq, etc. But they have time to implement a Constitutional Amendment aginst lighting fire to a tablecloth…
November can’t come soon enough. Their replacements will be just as incompetent, but the joy in firing them will overshadow that reality.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:04 amHere’s another:
Peace deal for Darfur?
The main rebel group in Sudan’s troubled Darfur region says it will sign a peace agreement with the government if some changes are made, an African Union adviser said today at talks in Abuja, Nigeria. The peace talks are aimed at ending the deaths of tens of thousands and the displacement of nearly 2 million people since February 2003.
http://www.cnn.com/
May 5th, 2006 at 9:06 amA sad commentary on the way Americans must carry themselves abroad: “The official team bus to be used by the United States during the World Cup will not bear a flag for security reasons. The 32 official buses were presented Thursday in Frankfurt and the other 31 buses have large national flags of the teams painted on rear sides.â€
Um – if 31 of the 32 busses will have flags on them and only 1 won’t, I wonder which one that might be? Weird.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:09 amAnalysts suspect the shift to abstinence-only education “is leading to less use of contraceptives and more unintended pregnancies.â€
Ummm…. Duh?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:09 amUm – if 31 of the 32 busses will have flags on them and only 1 won’t, I wonder which one that might be? Weird.
Comment by MrTimPA — May 5, 2006 @ 9:09 am
Funny how frightened people never think things all the way through, huh?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:11 amDon’t forget about the golden family’s latest mishap
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/04/kennedy.accident/index.html
He crashes his car at 3am, on the way to a congressional ‘vote’ and somehow isn’t breathalized? Like father like son, at least this time, the Kennedy involved wasn’t near a bridge with a passenger.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:11 amIt’s National Passport Month?!?!?! Thank god I found out. My wife would have killed me if I didn’t get her gift again this year.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:12 amThe Bush administration is refusing to talk directly with a host of regimes….
[snip idiotic nonsense]
We ought to have sufficient self-confidence in the correctness of our policy and the ability of our diplomats.â€
No doubt the Filthy Left would love to see the US give terrorists regimes the respectability they desire by sitting down at the table with them. One problem though, we don’t negotiate with terrorists, we kill them.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:13 am#4
May 5th, 2006 at 9:14 amAlso if the US has the ONLY bus without a flag, wouldn’t that stand out as a taret?
No doubt the Filthy Left would love to see the US give terrorists regimes the respectability they desire by sitting down at the table with them. One problem though, we don’t negotiate with terrorists, we kill them.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 5, 2006 @ 9:13 am
Damn I’m good! :)
Did you have to promise to stop bashing Hillary?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:15 amIRI, your back!!! HOORAY!!!!
I missed you this much
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Their the only team with out a bus, but how many other bus’s will there be from fans? I’m sure they’ll stick out only at the very end of their trip to the stadium right when they unload at the players entrance, beyond that, they shouldn’t stick out on the majority of the drive.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:17 amLike father like son, at least this time, the Kennedy involved wasn’t near a bridge with a passenger.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 9:11 am
If I’m willing to admit that there are idiot Democrats as well as idiot Republicans in Washington, would you stop using it as a talking point in and of itself?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:18 amthe rest of missed IRI this much
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Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 9:15 am
I thought you were straight… ?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:19 amUnbelievable
May 5th, 2006 at 9:20 amNot if it’s a Kennedy or Kerry, they call to me like a siren song. Their my version of Clinton bashing if you will.
Analysts suspect the shift to abstinence-only education “is leading to less use of contraceptives and more unintended pregnancies.â€
Ummm…. Duh?
Comment by unbelievable
I suspect that the shift away from teaching children the reality of STD’s and the nasty results from catching one has them forgetting to put on their rubbers and the statistics showing the growing problem of STD’s all the way down to grade school would tend to back that up.
I also suspect that the success of teaching children responsibility to one another and personal virtue has the Filthy Left just a little upset thus trotting out “studies” that show raising kids the old fashioned way is somehow harmful. It’s an old worn out trick and we’re not falling for it again.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:21 amAsk Tundra, I always give him hugs.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:21 amthe rest of missed IRI this much
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Comment by trueblue
It beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:22 amAnalysts suspect the shift to abstinence-only education “is leading to less use of contraceptives and more unintended pregnancies.â€
Analysts suspect that the fact the air we breathe contains oxygen “is leading to us still being alive.”
May 5th, 2006 at 9:23 amI also suspect that the success of teaching children responsibility to one another and personal virtue has the Filthy Left just a little upset thus trotting out “studies†that show raising kids the old fashioned way is somehow harmful. It’s an old worn out trick and we’re not falling for it again.
How about teaching both? Abstinence first. But if you’re going to do it, this is how to practice safe sex. I’d ask if that works for you, but I’m guessing not.
A Democrat could discover the cure for cancer, and you’d find something stupid and petty to say about him/her.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:28 amthe bus thing….another way of looking at it is that it makes it (potentially) unsafe for people/fans in regular buses. not a smart move in many regards.
on the other hand, over here, buses have numbers of some sort, right? — usually in connection with the bus line or owner. not to mention license plates. i wonder if that’s all true over there. since the buses were “presented” for all to see, it seems like the un-flagged bus is still pretty much a known entity, and the attempt at secrecy is flaccid at best.
why isn’t the UK bus unmarked? they just piggy-back on our ideas, anyway.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:28 amI also suspect that the success of teaching children responsibility to one another and personal virtue has the Filthy Left just a little upset thus trotting out “studies†that show raising kids the old fashioned way is somehow harmful. It’s an old worn out trick and we’re not falling for it again.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 5, 2006 @ 9:21 am
What do you consider ‘the old fashioned way’? When I was in high school, just as many girls were sexually active, and just as many got preganant as they do now. The only difference I can see is that now they have their babies, and back then they had abortions, or put them up for adoption.
You can’t stop people from having sex. We’ve had this conversation, ad nauseum, and I would think that as an educated man you would understand that sexual desire is requisite to survival of a species. Humans included.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:28 amAsk Tundra, I always give him hugs.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 9:21 am
And he lets you?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:29 am“A sad commentary on the way Americans must carry themselves abroad: “The official team bus to be used by the United States during the World Cup will not bear a flag for security reasons.”
It is a sad commentary but not the kind you Left Wing Anti-American Losers are alluding to. You’d like people to believe we are hated abroad because of our imperialistic war mongering. The fact is we’re hated because we are the ONLY force for GOOD left in the world today. The day the USA has no enemies among the defeated cowardly and immoral majority of Europeans and the Communist and Islamic thugs in the rest of the world is the day we are no longer a light shining in the darkness.
If elected President I’ll pull us out of all international competition that includes mass murdering thugs and those countries that support them, like Germany.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:32 amWe’ve had this conversation, ad nauseum, and I would think that as an educated man you would understand that sexual desire is requisite to survival of a species. Humans included.
Comment by unbelievable — May 5, 2006 @ 9:28 am
Man, you sure are assuming a lot about IRI.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:32 amGood Morning Unbelievable and resident trolls. Good posts, thank’s for the threads and info. Not spending much time here last few days, busy with planting and out side stuff and trying to keep from getting to round assed sitting in front of the puter.
The latest rummy debacle would of been pretty funny if it wern’t for all the hundreds of thousands of killed and maimed lives because of the bush regime lies.
Noted…kennedy auto accident. Do the repugs have so little to talk about they ignore their own failings and enphasize any thing on the left. By the way those of us on the left do bathe, therefore not filthey.
About the buses..why put markings on any. …..Blessings
May 5th, 2006 at 9:33 amIRI & Squeegeblow are perfect examples of why abortion
May 5th, 2006 at 9:33 amhas to remain legal…too bad it wasn’t considered at the
time of their birth.
How about teaching both? Abstinence first. But if you’re going to do it, this is how to practice safe sex. I’d ask if that works for you, but I’m guessing not.
Comment by bobcat_grad — May 5, 2006 @ 9:28 am
As someone who spend my days with teenagers I can assure you that they think they know everything at this age and the best any adult can do is to encourge them to be temperate or responsible. Even then, good luck. We learn from making mistakes. And at this age, unfortunately, the hormones are more mature than their brains. Nature really needs to fix that in the next version…
May 5th, 2006 at 9:33 amand I would think that as an educated man you would understand that sexual desire is requisite to survival of a species. Humans included.
Comment by unbelievable
As an educated women I’d expect you to understand that mankind has a calling to be better than animals.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:33 amYOU GET THE FEELING BUSH “IGNORED” THE GIRLS HE REALLY LIKED IN HIGH SCHOOL, EXPECTING THEM TO WONDER WHY HE’S “IGNORING” THEM?
DIDN’T WORK THEN, WON’T WORK NOW.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:34 amIf elected President I’ll pull us out of all international competition that includes mass murdering thugs and those countries that support them, like Germany.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 5, 2006 @ 9:32 am
Fortunately for us, you’re not yet eligible. :)
May 5th, 2006 at 9:35 am#31 Zimzone
“IRI & Squeegeblow are perfect examples of why abortion
has to remain legal…too bad it wasn’t considered at the
time of their birth.”
To bad its just you hippies that get aboritions, slowly dwindling your own vote generation by generation, its no accident the GOP swept back into power 20 years after aboritions became incapable of being illegal.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:36 amImportant Public Announcement:
Today is Cinco de Gringo
Have you kissed a Gringo today?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:36 amDear Residents of the Planet Earth,
Sorry for IRI.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:36 amMan, you sure are assuming a lot about IRI.
Comment by bobcat_grad — May 5, 2006 @ 9:32 am
Not assumptions. I believe he graduated from kindergarden :).
May 5th, 2006 at 9:36 am#33
May 5th, 2006 at 9:39 amHow can humans be “better” than animals if we are animals? Can you mean to be the best animal?
Fortunately for us, you’re not yet eligible. :)
Comment by unbelievable
I’m not only eligible I’m electable. (as long as no one finds out about my misogyny, homophobia, racism and deep seated hatred of all things Left of Center. Oh, wait…that’s exactly what makes me electable. My bad.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:39 amIf this site is so truthful and honest and all that why have we not seen anything about Mr. Kennedy this morning?
Police labor union officials asked acting Chief Christopher McGaffin this afternoon to allow a Capitol Police officer to complete his investigation into an early-morning car crash involving Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-R.I.), son of Sen. Ted Kennedy.
ROLL CALL reports: According to a letter sent by Officer Greg Baird, acting chairman of the USCP FOP, the wreck took place at approximately 2:45 a.m. Thursday when Kennedy’s car, operating with its running lights turned off, narrowly missed colliding with a Capitol Police cruiser and smashed into a security barricade at First and C streets Southeast.
“The driver exited the vehicle and he was observed to be staggering,†Baird’s letter states. Officers approached the driver, who “declared to them he was a Congressman and was late to a vote. The House had adjourned nearly three hours before this incident. It was Congressman Patrick J. Kennedy from Rhode Island.â€
Baird wrote that Capitol Police Patrol Division units, who are trained in driving under the influence cases, were not allowed to perform basic field sobriety tests on the Congressman. Instead, two sergeants, who also responded to the accident, proceeded to confer with the Capitol Police watch commander on duty and then “ordered all of the Patrol Division Units to leave the scene and that they were taking over.â€
A source tells the DRUDGE REPORT: “It was apparent that the driver was intoxicated (stumbling) and claimed he was in a hurry to make a vote.
“When it became apparent who it was, instead of processing a normal DWI, the watch commander had the Patrol units clear the scene. The commander allowed other building officials drive Kennedy home.”
This morning’s incident comes just over two weeks after Kennedy was involved in a car accident in Rhode Island.
“I was involved in a traffic accident last night at First and C Street SE near the U.S. Capitol,” Kennedy said in a written statement released by his office. “I consumed no alcohol prior to the incident. I will fully cooperate with the Capitol Police in whatever investigation they choose to undertake.”
May 5th, 2006 at 9:40 amIt is a sad commentary but not the kind you Left Wing Anti-American Losers are alluding to.
Good opening. Name calling gets you a lot of credit.
You’d like people to believe we are hated abroad because of our imperialistic war mongering.
Yup. And we’d be right. And not everyone hates us. Some people laugh at us instead.
The fact is we’re hated because we are the ONLY force for GOOD left in the world today.
Shhhh… don’t tell our allies that we think they’re evil. Hey, can someone have a narcisistic complex for their country? If so, I believe IRI has been diagnosed.
The day the USA has no enemies among the defeated cowardly and immoral majority of Europeans and the Communist and Islamic thugs in the rest of the world is the day we are no longer a light shining in the darkness.
Gag. Hey, guess what. Christians thought the same thing a few years back. It was called the Crusades. Oh, and the Spanish Inquisition. Here’s a wild idea: instead of requiring EVERYONE to think and act like us, how about we just try getting along with them. You know, less killing and dying that way.
If elected President I’ll pull us out of all international competition that includes mass murdering thugs and those countries that support them, like Germany.
You? Elecected President? I shudder.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:40 amAbout the buses..why put markings on any. …..Blessings
Comment by Sharon Cox — May 5, 2006 @ 9:33 am
Good morning Sharon…
Another perfect example of why we need to let women run the world for a while. Get rid of the superfluous labeling heirarchical systems require. We’re all humans who inhabit earth. Why do we need to divide ourselves further and further? Craziness.
My tomato plants have their first flower clusters… I might just survive when we all have to grow our own food again too :)
May 5th, 2006 at 9:40 amIRI just spoke Spanish…alert the neo-nazis! They will have to reprogram him.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:41 amI-RIGHT-I:
WHO NEEDS A WOMAN WHEN YOU GOT FOX NEWS, HUH?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:41 amAs an educated women I’d expect you to understand that mankind has a calling to be better than animals.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 5, 2006 @ 9:33 am
My cats are more moral than most people. And they are natural born killers.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:42 am#33
How can humans be “better†than animals if we are animals? Can you mean to be the best animal?
Comment by dlet
That’s something you’ll have to figure out for yourself should you ever feel the need. Until that time just remember that a large majority of this country know the answer to that and deal harshly with those of you who act our your animal tendencies.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:42 amIt’s astonishing to realize that our government neglects to pursue the benefits of skilled diplomacy around the world, preferring instead to be bellicose and contentious.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:44 amTheirs is a regressive, more primitive approach to resolving difficult and complex differences.
One needs to understand the “enemy,” his culture and his desires while fully explaining our own desires in global affairs, with the goal of mutual agreement somewhere and building on that base.
Unfortunately our state department, as well as other high officials in Bush’s administration, are more likely to antagonize delicate relationships, making them potentially more divided.
My cats are more moral than most people. And they are natural born killers.
Comment by unbelievable
Animals are incapable of morality and so are some people. We call those folks psychopaths and deal with them accordingly.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:44 am#20: I suspect that the shift away from teaching children the reality of STD’s and the nasty results from catching one has them forgetting to put on their rubbers and the statistics showing the growing problem of STD’s all the way down to grade school would tend to back that up.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 5, 2006 @ 9:21 am
What did you analyze to arrive at that suspicion? Your belly-button? The article doesn’t say anything about a deemphasis in teaching the reality of STDs. The comparison is made between teaching that you can avoid STDs by using condoms and teaching that you can avoid STDs by not having sex. So this hypothesis is irrelevant.
I also suspect that the success of teaching children responsibility to one another and personal virtue has the Filthy Left just a little upset thus trotting out “studies†that show raising kids the old fashioned way is somehow harmful. It’s an old worn out trick and we’re not falling for it again.
Right…studies are just a measure of reality and reality has a well-known liberal bias.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:45 amIt’s astonishing to realize that our government neglects to pursue the benefits of skilled diplomacy around the world, preferring instead to be bellicose and contentious.
Theirs is a regressive, more primitive approach to resolving difficult and complex differences.
One needs to understand the “enemy,†his culture and his desires while fully explaining our own desires in global affairs, with the goal of mutual agreement somewhere and building on that base.
Unfortunately our state department, as well as other high officials in Bush’s administration, are more likely to antagonize delicate relationships, making them potentially more divided.
Comment by Marie
Dear God! Another navel gazer. You’re a fool Marie, understand that.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:47 amSorry IRI, no war was ever started in the name of “dlet”. I am pretty comfortable in the knowledge that humans are a species of animal that have been evolved on this extraordinary sphere in space.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:48 am8 DEMS Vote YES For Corruption?
Friday 5th of May 2006
by Jay Randal
On Wednesday this week 8 House Democrats voted YES for a bogus Lobbying Reform Bill, which passed 217 YES to 213 NO, so those 8 Dems screwed us all!
Democrat voters are becoming cynical about Congress in general, so this turncoat type behavior reinforces that view, and makes voters desire a new third party!
Those 8 Democrats must be punished by the Party leadership, or told to resign their seats in the House, so real Democrats with guts can take their positions!
Why should any progressives support fools who help the GOP, by voting for continued sleaze in DC, who help to pass legislation that does nothing to reform it!
Core/base Democrats when they receive requests for contributions, for some incumbents, cringe in outrage and wonder why they even bother to vote anymore!
Sen. Joe Lieberman, for example, no longer represents average Democrats, but he expects to be supported by the party membership, while he defends Bush Regime!
( Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Stone Mountain, Georgia, USA.)
May 5th, 2006 at 9:50 amOh, wait…that’s exactly what makes me electable. My bad.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 5, 2006 @ 9:39 am
Not in 2008.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:51 am#51 You feel incapable of morality?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:54 amThe House yesterday overwhelmingly approved a $7.4 billion port security bill, though conservatives bowed to industry and “blocked consideration of a Democratic amendment that would have required that all cargo be screened before it leaves foreign ports for the United States.â€
So how do they expect our ports to be secure?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:55 amAnyone else shaking their head over this?
mankind has a calling to be better than animals.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 5, 2006 @ 9:33 am
Is that a fact? Got any proof to back that claim up?
May 5th, 2006 at 9:56 amIs that a fact? Got any proof to back that claim up?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Just the history of mankind. Read it, it’s an interesting story Wayne.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:58 am#8- I don’t remember Dick Cheney taking any tests after he shot his friend in the face, He didn’t even talk to the police until the next day. And Kennedy did not hurt anyone. To bad the “righties” won’t hold members of their own party to the same standards as they expect of the Dems.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:58 amWHO CARES ABOUT DRUNKS .gIVE ME A COCAINE SNIFFING AND A DRUNK PRESIDENT I CAN VOTE FOR ! THAT;S WHAT iri AND OTHER FREAKS FROM THE EXTREME RADICAL RIGHT CAN APPROVE AND DEFEND AS LONG AS THEY GET LAID , SORRY I MEANT PAID.
May 5th, 2006 at 9:59 amWe call those folks psychopaths and deal with them accordingly.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 5, 2006 @ 9:44 am
Like by deleting their posts? ;)
May 5th, 2006 at 10:00 amCyra,
May 5th, 2006 at 10:00 amI don’t recall Laura Bush doing jail time for mowing down her High School Boyfriend, either.
“To bad the “righties†won’t hold members of their own party to the same standards as they expect of the Dems.”
It sounds like we did. No one on the right expects any standards to be applied to the Dems.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:01 amOnly problem is, humans seem to be falling woefully short of their calling, whatever that might be. Many animals are smart enough to not shit where they eat; humans seem to have ignored that basic precept judging by what they’ve done to Creation in the hopes of getting filthy rich.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:01 amBack at ya, Unbelievable, no tomato plants in my yard yet, fruit trees blooming nicely.
[R]…Think I would have a better chance at being Miss. America than you would getting nominated for any office. No offence, but, we already have all our offices filled with bigots, waramongers, liers, thieves and murderers. This admnistration doesn’t need any more followers.
About abstenence, something bush himself did not adhere to, remember him paying for his girlfriends abortion. Ofcourse we have Laura, bless her if you choose for using retro active birth control on her boyfriend, much like her husband does today with our troops and all the people of the world. A survey last year pointed out there were less abortions during the Clinton administration. It seems to me if there is enough information on birth control along with abstenance there would be fewer inwanted births. Better education on all things is the answer………….Blessings
May 5th, 2006 at 10:01 am#60 I meant proof about the “calling” part. How do you know that there aren’t animals who believe they have a “calling” to be better than mankind?
Let’s skip your likely immediate response and go back to my question…
May 5th, 2006 at 10:01 amhow do you know?
Just the history of mankind. Read it, it’s an interesting story Wayne.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 5, 2006 @ 9:58 am
Which version?
May 5th, 2006 at 10:02 am#69 The victors, the others arn’t worth it.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:04 am[R]…Think I would have a better chance at being Miss. America than you would getting nominated for any office.
Comment by Sharon Cox — May 5, 2006 @ 10:01 am
LOL!
May 5th, 2006 at 10:05 amThe victors, the others arn’t worth it.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 10:04 am
Okay, generation gap alert… what are you talking about?
May 5th, 2006 at 10:07 am#69 Which version?
Comment by unbelievable — May 5, 2006 @ 10:02 am
Good point. The only “versions” we have of history were almost all written by the winning sides of the conflict. And we all know how people like to re-write history, even as it’s happening.
Years from now (hundreds), kids in school may be taught about the heroic battle of Pvt Jessica Lynch that the Pentagon tried to trot out when she was first rescued. She later admitted that there were plenty of things wrong with the “official” story, but the misinformation did not originate with her.
I know that a lot of people refuse to believe that our government had any involvement (to at least some degree) with 9-11, but the facts recorded on that day conflict with the official government account of that day’s events. What will future generations be told about the actions of this corrupt, mendacious, totally dishonest administration? Only with the help of liberals will they ever learn the truth. Teach them well, unbelievable. Teach them well.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:10 amThe version of history as written by the victors throughout history. Why read what the losing side has to offer(if you can even find it), their the losing side.
“History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.” – Churchill (which is actually a reason to read the losers side, so you get the complete picture, but anyways, I’ve always liked the qoute)
May 5th, 2006 at 10:10 am#74 Wow, a flip-flop within the same post.
Actually, you were right the second time when you suggested that we should try to learn the losing side’s version of events. Only there are you likely to learn about atrocities and illegalities committed by the winning side, which will rarely, if ever, mention them. Our government, just like every other government, has done it.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:15 am#72:
I believe he’s referring to the fact that history books are written by the victors. You know, so you get one side of the story. The side that won.
Kinda like Fox News.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:15 amGood posts all, Yep! your right Jay.. Time to go hug and feed the trees…..Blessings
May 5th, 2006 at 10:19 amGood point. The only “versions†we have of history were almost all written by the winning sides of the conflict. And we all know how people like to re-write history, even as it’s happening.
So that’s what Squeegie meant. Gotcha. Why I love ‘A People’s History of the United States’ by Howard Zinn. No autocrat to edit it.
Years from now (hundreds), kids in school may be taught about the heroic battle of Pvt Jessica Lynch that the Pentagon tried to trot out when she was first rescued. She later admitted that there were plenty of things wrong with the “official†story, but the misinformation did not originate with her.
What is the Official story?
If it’s any consolation, the history textbooks actually are better written than when we were in school. They do talk about the genocide of the Native Americans by the original American settlers. I was surprised. But, as neocons go after money rather than knowledge, I guess it makes sense that acedemia is more liberal as a result.
I know that a lot of people refuse to believe that our government had any involvement (to at least some degree) with 9-11, but the facts recorded on that day conflict with the official government account of that day’s events. What will future generations be told about the actions of this corrupt, mendacious, totally dishonest administration? Only with the help of liberals will they ever learn the truth. Teach them well, unbelievable. Teach them well.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — May 5, 2006 @ 10:10 am
I don’t buy the Conspiracy Stuff though. It’s too wacky and doesn’t add up any better than what the 9/11 report says. The truth, as usual, it probably somewhere in between. It’s why I routinely encourage my students to get multiple sources and then logically reason their own opinions for themselves. I figure getting them to think rather than just accept what hey are given is the best we can do to prepare them for the real world. Unfortunately Wayne, the rules and regulations of the Administration expects them to to exactly the opposite. “Follow the rules” is the Public School System’s Philosophy. And teaching students that, well, we’re simply manufacturing sheep.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:23 amOde fof Sharon Cox :
”May I make my fond excuses
May 5th, 2006 at 10:26 amFor the late-ness of the hour;
But we accept your invitation,
And would bring you Beltane’s flower.”
“They do talk about the genocide of the Native Americans by the original American settlers.”
Why teach children that stuff? Save it for HS at the earliest, before that feed them the regular propaganda shill so they become proud automaton citizens. later on in life they can learn the reality, after they’ve been in America long enough to know the sins of our forefathers were worth it.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:29 amWhy teach children that stuff? Save it for HS at the earliest, before that feed them the regular propaganda shill so they become proud automaton citizens. later on in life they can learn the reality, after they’ve been in America long enough to know the sins of our forefathers were worth it.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 10:29 am
I teach high school. They very well may sell the propaganda in elementary and middle school levels. I don’t know.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:34 amRead half of these comments and all will know why I dont comment when the majority are idiots like IRI.
You people feed these idiots and wonder why they keep coming back for more.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:35 amMy daughter is writing a research paper on the rate of teen pregnancies and STD’s in states, such as Texas, and those that teach a broader program such as preventative measures, such as California (also coutries such as France and Spain have a broder program).
California’s rates of both STD’s and pregnancies among teenagers is much lower than Texas.
There has been a lot of research on this and even a study by Texas A&M has found that Texas’s program, which was implemented by Bush’s administration when he was governor, has been ineffective at preventing pregnancies and STD’s.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:40 amIf our politicians, don’t address this issue in an adult, ethical, rational, and common sense way, aren’t they as bad as the people who do harm to us. Isn’t it a form of terrorism or treason. They know the problem exists, yet they do nothing.
I hate what Karl Rove and some brand of Christian Fundamentalists have done to our country and politics. They have paralyzed progress and national security by focusing on their own self-righteousness.
Duh. They needed a study to prove that.
And that says it all.
I thought smart people, hard-working, ethical, problem-solvers, critical thinkers were in Congress because they wanted to be public servants to help the people of our country be the best they can be, and to preserve the beauty of this country for future generations.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:47 amRead half of these comments and all will know why I dont comment when the majority are idiots like IRI.
You people feed these idiots and wonder why they keep coming back for more.
Comment by Paul in Mexico — May 5, 2006 @ 10:35 am
It’s all play with him. He’s not serious.
But you’ll be happy to know that he e-mailed me that he can’t seem to post anymore this morning and wanted to let everyone know that he apologizes for not being able to respond to their comments to him. A trait of a real jerk, you know?
May 5th, 2006 at 10:48 am#16 that’s funny, just can’t get enough of Chappaquiddick even after almost 40 years. Almost as funny as “Take my wife…please” Got any “It’s Clinton’s fault anecdotes to go with that one?
IRI Really misses his Russian homeland. After all almost everything he advocates sounds like hardliner Stalinist policy, so he must be from Russia, or perhaps North Korea. Or I sometimes get the impression that the republican party is a political version of the WWF and their supporters are on the same mental level as WWF fans.
#33 mankind has been having sex out of marriage for thousands of years whether you want to admit it or not. My very pious grand parents who were totally against premarital sex, had their first child five months after they were married.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:48 am#79 unbelievable,
When Pvt Lynch was first rescued, the Pentagon began putting out a story about how she fired her weapon until she emptied the clip, she fought hand-to-hand, and how the American troops that recovered her (it was more a recovery than a rescue) had a fierce fire fight outside the hospital.
All lies. By Pvt Lynch’s own account, most of her injuries were sustained in the accident when her truck rolled over. She didn;t “empty her weapon”, it got jammed and was pretty much useless. And the team that recovered her from the hospital met no resistance at all. In fact, doctors at the hospital had tried to return her to the American troops, but the vehicle they were in was fired upon by soldiers at an American checkpoint.
If the Pentagon had bothered to learn the facts, they never would have said all the things they did about her, unless the truth was irrelevant to the story they wanted to tell. This is not meant to take anything away from Pvt Lynch and her sacrifices. She is a brave woman, and I applaud her courage. But her real story does not match the Pentagon’s first “official” account which, judging by how inaccurate it was, they must have made up entirely.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:48 amThank You, Guru……..And a belated Happy Beltane to you as well……Blessings
May 5th, 2006 at 10:50 am#87 Mark “It’s Clinton’s fault anecdotes to go with that one?”
I would, but to my knowledge Clinton never let a woman drown, so I’m not that upset with him having been in gov’t.
Hey TP “But you’ll be happy to know that he e-mailed me that he can’t seem to post anymore this morning ”
May 5th, 2006 at 10:52 amWay to suppress Free Speech.
But her real story does not match the Pentagon’s first “official†account which, judging by how inaccurate it was, they must have made up entirely.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — May 5, 2006 @ 10:48 am
Thanks for the information Wayne.
Sounds a lot like the propaganda they released on the football player who was actually killed in friendly fire. Just spin the situation to make them look like Superheros instead of the incapable government providing our soldiers incompetent weaponry and gear.
I do believe in being skeptical of the government. It’s what Jefferson requested, verbatim… but we also have to be careful of what battles we choose. And how we fight them. Don’t want to become the enemy that we oppose. And some do.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:56 amThe latest installment from Charles Krauthammer tells us that Hitler lives in Iran and we should kill him. But we won’t get fooled again.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:58 amWay to suppress Free Speech.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 10:52 am
I asked him to find out if it’s him or some kind of glitch – so he knows whether it’s censorship or faulty electronics. Gotta give the benefit of the doubt most of the time Squeegie. Most poeple are doing the best that they can.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:59 am#93 Fair enough.
Sorry to blame with out knowing for sure TP, please don’t suppress my free speech now also.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:00 am#79 And as for the 9-11 “Conspiracy Stuff”, I would only ask that you remember a couple of things:
First, the offical explanation is a “Conspiracy Theory”, and I am concerned that people think of that term as a pejorative. It’s actually just nothing more than an accurate description. Yes, some “theories” are true tinfoil hat stuff, but some are factually accurate. (For example, the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre was a conspiracy.)
Second, while I admit that I am not ready to jump into the entire “Our government was behind the whole thing”-theory, I do believe that there are truths that the government just does not want us to find out, and their actions (and inactions) that day raise an awful lot of questions. As I’ve said before, if you start with the premise that nobody in our government knew anything about what was going to happen that day in any way, shape or form, then you have a story of an incredibly inept and incompetent government, and the official explanation leaves a lot of questions unanswered and raises new ones. But, if you start with the premise that, at the very least, some people in our government knew something of what might happen that day, then many of the perplexing things make more sense. It may be that this plot was planned entirely without our government’s help (though facts and eyewitness testimonies make that unlikely) but that the administration let it happen as part of the “New Pearl Harbor” they would need to implement their PNAC plans. In any case, I do not believe our government is completely innocent in all of this. I started going through http://www.loosechange911.com and I think you should too when you have the time. Also check out http://www.911truth.org. If nothing else, you should come away believing that whatever happened, it didn’t happen the way the 9-11 Commission said it did.
And while all of this might change the way you think about me, it doesn’t change what I think of you. You’re still on the side of good.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:02 am#94:
You must have us confused with the people who organize Bush’s public speaking engagements.
Oh, and the security group at Rummy’s speech yesterday. I know you’ll say, “Hey, he let McGovern talk.” But only after four women were removed for excercising their right to free speech. And Rummy had to explicity tell security to let McGovern stay.
Bet he regrets that decision.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:07 amOde for Sharon Cox :
”But the May Day is the great day,
May 5th, 2006 at 11:07 amSung along the old straight track;
And those who ancient lines did lay,
Will heed this song that calls them back.”
And while all of this might change the way you think about me, it doesn’t change what I think of you. You’re still on the side of good.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — May 5, 2006 @ 11:02 am
I should let you know that I’m not like that. MA is the only person in here that I dislike. And even then, it’s because of disrespectful behavior, and not opinions. Even IRI and I have become ‘friends’ (or whatever the term is for people who communicate online as friends). So, with that said, the only thing that will change my opinion of someone is disrespect. And I don’t think you are capable. You try very hard not to be.
I agree that our government hides things from us. They always have. I’m sure psychological profiles of people who want to ‘lead’ are frought with some deep seeded need to be in control. And, by definition, you aren’t in control if you let really assinine stuff happen or make mistakes. I believe 9/11 was the result of mistakes, and arrogance that we are untouchable. I just don’t believe they intentionally assisted the terrorists from what I’ve seen so far. But, where I different from RemoveBush and SANTO is that I’m willing to say that I might be wrong. They aren’t. It’s why they get the negative labels. I just haven’t been convinced yet.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:13 am“Forty-five percent of self-described conservatives now disapprove of the president.â€
In other words, the meds are working for some…
Hey mentals that hang around here…..there are meds out thare that actually work!
Call your doctor now, you too can be a healthy productive American.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:13 am“And while all of this might change the way you think about me, it doesn’t change what I think of you. You’re still on the side of good.”
Dont worry Wayne, I never thought good of you to begin with :) (Just don’t tell the wife, she scares me)
May 5th, 2006 at 11:15 am#10 – “we don’t negotiate with terrorists, we kill them”
“Right between the I’s” is forgetting Kim Jung Il in North Korea. We’ve been “negotiating” with him ever since we p*$$ied out and DIDN’T attack him for having Nuclear weapons that can reach US soil. Pres. Bush and his stupid flip-flopping butt had to fake “WMD’s” in Iraq so we could go over there.
Come this November, you’ll be crying like a stuck pig when Republicans lose seats, and you’ll only have your failed policies to blame for it.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:16 am“Forty-five percent of self-described conservatives now disapprove of the president.â€
But if his numbers still match the 33% from a week or two ago, while conservative support has dropped, dosn’t that mean liberal support has increased?
May 5th, 2006 at 11:17 am#102, go to school for the retarded…they may be able to help you comprehend simple statements.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:20 amBut if his numbers still match the 33% from a week or two ago, while conservative support has dropped, dosn’t that mean liberal support has increased?
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 11:17 am
I’m going out on a limb here, but I’ll say no.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:22 am#98 Thanks, unbelievable. I try to be respectful, and I try to address just the arguments being made and not attack the person making the argument. As I said, all I ask is that you look at those two links, and let your mind decide what it wants to do about it after that. I will say this, though. You’ll be able to understand why you see some of the comments that you do about 9-11 here.
But I’ll tell you what. We can’t all address every issue, and some of us have strengths that make looking into certain things easier for us than for others. I know that there are other things that you believe are more important and provable than this, and I won’t disagree. So, if it’s okay with you, I’ll keep pursuing this as one of my “pet projects”, and we can have you put your strengths toward the issues that motivate you. And together we’ll get these lying SOBs out of office and into prison where they belong.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:23 amBobcat
May 5th, 2006 at 11:24 amSo his independent support went up? Something must have increased to keep the percantages the same. It’s a zero sum game.
But if his numbers still match the 33% from a week or two ago, while conservative support has dropped, dosn’t that mean liberal support has increased?
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 11:17 am
Not necessarily. The key is “self-described conservatives”. A lot of people describe themselves as “independents” or “moderates”. The 33% figure bundles all of them, as well as liberals, in with the conservatives to come up with 33% of the country. It just means that support among liberals and moderates must be well below 33% to make the whole country average out to 33%. (Assuming you believe in the validity of opinion polls in the first place, which I don’t.)
May 5th, 2006 at 11:29 am#106 – You’re getting your numbers mixed up.
The Ap-Ispos poll is done on a monthly basis. You’re comparing another poll where Pres. Bush’s approval ratings were 36-34% to the new Ap-Ispos poll.
http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/client/act_dsp_pdf.cfm?name=mr060505-1topline.pdf&id=3071
I di understand why you’re getting confused, it’s because of all the times you hear “all-time low”. One week, it’s 36% is the lowest, then the next week 34% is the lowest. Each time you hear “all time low” it’s in relation to the same polling study.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:34 amBobcat
So his independent support went up? Something must have increased to keep the percantages the same. It’s a zero sum game.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 11:24 am
True, but you’re making assumptions. It just says that “Forty-five percent of self-described conservatives now disapprove of the president.”
Didn’t really say that the number has gone down. It was just saying that 45% of conservatives disapprove.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:35 amAnd together we’ll get these lying SOBs out of office and into prison where they belong.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — May 5, 2006 @ 11:23 am
It’s hard for me not to argue something that I feel strongly about. Regardless of the person’s political affliation or how much we might agree on other issues. And I feel very strongly that the architecture side of the main Conspiracy Theory is deceptive. It’s inate for me to comment to that. And I will probably continue to do so.
But as for the crroks in Washington, I thnk we’ll only replace them with new crook in November. Not until we figuratively storm the Bastille and change the laws (getting the money out of politics and revoking Corporate Personhood), will we see an impact.
I think it has to get much uglier before we have any chance in pushing for change. People in our culture fear change. Pain is the only thing that is a stronger motivator to them than fear. And right now, they are just uncomfortable.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:37 am#109/#108 “Didn’t really say that the number has gone down. It was just saying that 45% of conservatives disapprove.”
“I di understand why you’re getting confused, it’s because of all the times you hear “all-time lowâ€.
Man, stupid word smithing, then again, its not hard to confuse me, shiny things excel at that.
But hes on his way back up, Fox’s poll went up 5% from a few weeks ago.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:38 amBut hes on his way back up, Fox’s poll went up 5% from a few weeks ago.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 11:38 am
And next week he’ll be down again. You have to see these things as averages.
He’s been consistently below 38-35% for months. THAT is not good, no matter how much he might be up this week.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:40 amHey! It’s Friday…..
Rove indictments?
Fitz, Fitz, Fitz, Fitz!!!!!!
May 5th, 2006 at 11:41 am#112 “THAT is not good, no matter how much he might be up this week.”
It’s great, it means he dosn’t have to worry about pleasing people, because he can’t. So he can just stick to the business of running the country. Which he is doing the best of compared to any other president who served soley in the 21st century.
Hes got you right where he wants you.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:42 amAfter reading the whole article about the poll, I had to share with everyone my favorite part:
“I think he’s the dumbest president we’ve ever had,” said Mark Rauzi, a conservative voter from Gillespie, Ill. “I disapprove of a lot of the stuff he’s doing. This war was a big boo boo and he won’t admit he did wrong.”
Other good news:
In addition, 27 percent of registered voters were strong Republicans just before the 2004 election, while only 15 percent fit that description today.
It keeps on coming. Regarding energy policy and gas prices:
Those who strongly disapprove outnumber those who strongly approve by an extraordinary 55 percent to 8 percent.
I’m happier and happier reading this:
In the past six decades, only one president had a lower job approval rating six months before a midterm election — Richard Nixon in May 1974, the year in which Watergate-scarred Republicans lost 48 seats in the House and four in the Senate.
This is VERY telling:
Nearly half of the public strongly disapproves of Bush, a huge jump from his 5 percent strong disapproval rating in 2002. The poll has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:46 amIt’s great, it means he dosn’t have to worry about pleasing people, because he can’t.
Uh, it’s his job… It’s all about the people. Sure, some on the fringes are always unhappy, but you do understand that this means 68% – the majority in this case – no not approve.
And you do know that elections are based on approval, Squeegie?
So he can just stick to the business of running the country. Which he is doing the best of compared to any other president who served soley in the 21st century.
You need a yardstick, not a ruler. Bush is the worse president ever. And I’m not being anything but serious.
Hes got you right where he wants you.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 11:42 am
He wants me writing to my Representatives demaning he be held accountable through censure and/or removal from office? Don’t think so.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:48 amthe year in which Watergate-scarred Republicans lost 48 seats in the House and four in the Senate.
Comment by bobcat_grad — May 5, 2006 @ 11:46 am
That would be GREAT news if I didn’t think that the Democrats are just as corrupt and inept as the Republicans. One party – two shades of beige.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:51 amsquegeeboo, you’re very good at defending criminals. Its obvious you’re an ex-con yourself.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:51 amRemember, your parole officer is watching, stay away from the child porn sites, Bubble boy and his fellow criminals need you now more than ever.
21st century.
Just caught that detail. Ha ha.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:53 am“Uh, it’s his job… It’s all about the people.”
It’s all about the good of the people, not the people, at least not anymore, he can’t be re-elected. And it’s about time we lost the congress anyways, we did a much better job controling graft and waste as the minority party.
On an unrelated Tangent, the UK is sceduled to finish paying off lend-lease this year.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:55 amIt’s great, it means he dosn’t have to worry about pleasing people, because he can’t. So he can just stick to the business of running the country. Which he is doing the best of compared to any other president who served soley in the 21st century.
Hes got you right where he wants you.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 11:42 am
Great logic, there.
I’m tired of the argument of “he doesn’t have to worry about pleasing people.” If close to 70% of the people he is ‘leading’ think he’s doing a bad job, maybe…. JUST MAYBE, he’s actually doing a bad job.
Being decisive and determined is only a good quality if you are correct in your convictions and decisions. Otherwise, you’re being stubborn and stupid.
And as for Bush being the “best of compared to any other president who served soley in the 21st century,” you are correct. Being #1 on a list comprising a total of one person isn’t all that tough. I’ll use that logic back on you and say that he is the worst of any president that has served soley in the 21st century.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:56 amAnd I feel very strongly that the architecture side of the main Conspiracy Theory is deceptive. It’s inate for me to comment to that. And I will probably continue to do so.
…revoking Corporate Personhood…
Comment by unbelievable — May 5, 2006 @ 11:37 am
I agree 100% on revoking Corporate Personhood. Everybody should be against that. Jefferson was.
In all seriousness, because I want to learn and because I respect your views on this being that architecture is your specialty, what is it about the “architecture side of the Conspiracy Theory” that you feel “is deceptive”? (And to clarify, which Conspiracy Theory are you referring to? The “official” one or the one of the others?) [I hope I can stick around long enough for an answer. I'm at the garage getting my car fixed and it might actually be ready soon, more than five hours later.]
May 5th, 2006 at 11:57 amIt’s all about the good of the people, not the people, at least not anymore, he can’t be re-elected. And it’s about time we lost the congress anyways, we did a much better job controling graft and waste as the minority party.
You have your unrelenting energy going for you. And I get a headache if I beat my head against that wall. Someone else will burp you. I need to go bury your dirty diaper.
On an unrelated Tangent, the UK is sceduled to finish paying off lend-lease this year.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 11:55 am
The British people are better at holding their government accountable than we are.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:58 am“Great logic, there.”
At least some one thinks so, and you already said it, no take backs.
“I’ll use that logic back on you and say that he is the worst of any president that has served soley in the 21st century.” I disagree.
May 5th, 2006 at 11:58 amSqueegy, your Mom called, you’re grounded.
May 5th, 2006 at 12:02 pm#95 & 105 – Wayne, I’m going to take a look at those websites. I’m inclined not to believe BushCo could think up this kind of crap, but I would readily believe they would let it happen. I don’t care what anyone says, you’re still the greatest. ;)
May 5th, 2006 at 12:05 pmThanks, Zookeeper. I think my car is finally ready! If you’re out there, Jane, I’m sorry this took so long, Honey. I’ll explain where all the money went when I get home.
May 5th, 2006 at 12:09 pmAnd no, Honey, I didn’t give it all to Zookeeper. :)
May 5th, 2006 at 12:13 pmWayne,
By feeling the need to state that it makes you look guilty and like you have something to hide. Amature mistake really :)
May 5th, 2006 at 12:18 pm#128 – Jane, he did, honestly. ;)
May 5th, 2006 at 12:32 pmOne problem though, we don’t negotiate with terrorists, we kill them.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #10
…not ALL of them apparently…
…but I’m sure God has something in a “shock and awe” size…
…for murderous, criminal, TREASONOUS al Crackkker racists like you IRI…
…enjoy your 72 pigs…
May 5th, 2006 at 12:40 pm#124
Turn your sarcasm filter on.
May 5th, 2006 at 12:41 pmI agree 100% on revoking Corporate Personhood. Everybody should be against that. Jefferson was.
You a fan of Thom Hartmann?
In all seriousness, because I want to learn and because I respect your views on this being that architecture is your specialty, what is it about the “architecture side of the Conspiracy Theory†that you feel “is deceptive�
The one that says the buildings couldn’t have collapsed under the circumstances without some previous government sponsired placement of explosives.
Buildings are designed to handle certain stressed – both natural and unintentional. Wind and rain are examples of natural, while fire and plane crashes are unintentional. The towers wer designed to withstand a lot of natural and some anticipated unintentional stresses at the same time. When you build that high you have to consider these things – a benefit of having government oversight that some neocons would like to do without – as a result of building codes. One of these requirements is fir proofing. It’s applied to steel structural members to make them last long enough for people to get out of a building if it is on fire. Steel is easily compromised by temperature. It doesn’t have to melt to fail – just by weakened enough to no longer hold it’s intented load (itself and the rest of the building).
When the planes hit the towers, they possibly irradicated the fire proofing. It would make sense that they did because of the force (fireproofing is not designed for wind or high impact loads :). And although the buildings were designed to take the impact of a plane, they weren’t designed for the impact of planes this large (from the designers’ mouthes). As a result of losing fire proofing, it allowed the steel to become compromised enough that when the top portions of the building severed and began to fall (on top of the rest of the building), the destructive force of their weight in free fall was no match for the weakened interior steel columns. Because they were NOT designed for that type of stress, much less that type of stress in addition to the fire and the plane crash simultaneously – they collapsed.
As long as it is possible to collapse a building by excessive stresses (which it is), the notion that they were intentionally blown up as part of a government involvment in collapsing them is very absurd to me. And this is the notion of the majority of people in the profession. The few who dispute it are within the pecentages of the usual random few who always dispute everything.
(I hope I can stick around long enough for an answer. I’m at the garage getting my car fixed and it might actually be ready soon, more than five hours later.]
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — May 5, 2006 @ 11:57 am
Have fun with that… :) Hope it’s nothing major!
May 5th, 2006 at 12:45 pm#133 yep all the fire had to do was weaken the structural steel and once one level started to collapse the rest would follow. The consiracists think the metal had to be melted to collapse and that is simply not the case. Additionally the WTC was not like other buildings. It’s stuctural support was all on the outside of the building. It was more like a bug with an exoskeleton, while other more traditional buildings are more like humans with internal skeletons. The exoskelton of the WTC was weakend by the plane gashing a hole in it and then by the intense heat which may not have melted the metal suppor, but it did definately weaken it.
May 5th, 2006 at 12:53 pm#132 bobcat
“#124
Turn your sarcasm filter on. ”
It’s on, I normally choose to ignore it.
May 5th, 2006 at 1:00 pmMark – appreciate the additional info. I’ve been trying to explain this so many times that it’s become a very condensed version. It’s hard to explain something in lay terms this complex.
May 5th, 2006 at 1:03 pmunbelievable
I’m still waiting for you to refute my version of the pancake theory. To date you haven’t.
Because its stupid and ludicrous? Perhaps, but it might be because you CAN’T.
May 5th, 2006 at 1:29 pmI’m still waiting for you to refute my version of the pancake theory. To date you haven’t.
Because its stupid and ludicrous? Perhaps, but it might be because you CAN’T.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 1:29 pm
I can’t refute something that I don’t know what you’re talking about. What’s your version of the Pancake Theory. Keep in mind that it’s Friday and I’m a little tired, so you might not get a dissertation.
May 5th, 2006 at 1:31 pmUm, it was the one that the pancake theory can’t be true, becuase people use syrup on pancakes, and no syrup was used to bring down the WTC, although the lack of syrup could be a gov’t coverup.
Allow me to repeat myself
May 5th, 2006 at 1:34 pm“Because its stupid and ludicrous? Perhaps, but it might be because you CAN’T.”
Squeegie,
Respond to this:
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You CAN, but why would you?
Same applies to your nonsense above.
May 5th, 2006 at 1:37 pmHere’s my Pancake Theory: You lock the little child, Squeegy, in the closet as soon as he can speak; slide flat foods, such as pancakes and quesadillas, through the crack under the door occasionally to silence the moaning; when Squeegy comes of age — seal up the crack.
May 5th, 2006 at 1:39 pmUnbelievable
Your statement dosn’t make any sense, perhapes you wanted mg’lkm not mgl’km in the third line. Then it works.
“You CAN, but why would you?”
May 5th, 2006 at 1:40 pmbecause you can, thats why.
#141 “seal up the crack.”
Why are we waiting, instead of just throwing out the baby with the bathwater to begin with?
May 5th, 2006 at 1:41 pmwhen Squeegy comes of age — seal up the crack.
Comment by Zookeeper — May 5, 2006 @ 1:39 pm
If you don’t get deleted for “violent undertones” again :), works for me!
May 5th, 2006 at 1:42 pmbecause you can, thats why.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 1:40 pm
I can also bite my toenails, but I CHOOSE not to… Clear?
May 5th, 2006 at 1:44 pm#143 – Why would I throw out perfectly good bath water?
May 5th, 2006 at 1:45 pmWhy are we waiting, instead of just throwing out the baby with the bathwater to begin with?
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 1:41 pm
You aren’t advocating abortion now are you? Might revoke your neo-con status you know.
May 5th, 2006 at 1:46 pm#144 – No violence, it’s passive aggressive. ;)
May 5th, 2006 at 1:49 pm“Why would I throw out perfectly good bath water?”
To water the plants, plus, you bury the baby, and it provides nutrients to your flowers/vegtables.
“You aren’t advocating abortion now are you?”
Personally? Never
If you want to though, it’s not my kid, I don’t really care.
“Might revoke your neo-con status you know.”
May 5th, 2006 at 1:50 pmHa, I doubt even they would take me to begin with.
#145 – Thank you. Salma, chewing toenails, not good for the image…
May 5th, 2006 at 1:50 pmNo violence, it’s passive aggressive. ;)
Comment by Zookeeper — May 5, 2006 @ 1:49 pm
Good. I’d hate to lose ALL of my favorite people to the delete key :)
May 5th, 2006 at 1:51 pm#149 – To water the plants, plus, you bury the baby, and it provides nutrients to your flowers/vegtables.
No can do, the f*cking dog keeps digging them up.
May 5th, 2006 at 1:52 pmIf you want to though, it’s not my kid, I don’t really care.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 1:50 pm
If I’d been careless 23 years ago, you might have been the kid…
May 5th, 2006 at 1:53 pm#151 :P
May 5th, 2006 at 1:53 pm#153 – If I’d been careless 23 years ago, you might have been the kid…
Comment by unbelievable
Now there’s a plot for a scary movie!
May 5th, 2006 at 1:55 pmThank you. Salma, chewing toenails, not good for the image…
Comment by Zookeeper — May 5, 2006 @ 1:50 pm
Glad you approve of my hygiene methods Pippi :). I’d been meaning to ask…
May 5th, 2006 at 1:55 pmNow there’s a plot for a scary movie!
Comment by Zookeeper — May 5, 2006 @ 1:55 pm
Rosemary’s Baby Revisted? Or worse…?
May 5th, 2006 at 1:57 pm“If I’d been careless 23 years ago, you might have been the kid…”
That would have been awsome, you could have had me, real, live, and in person. And for some reason you choose not?
May 5th, 2006 at 1:57 pmThat would have been awsome, you could have had me, real, live, and in person. And for some reason you choose not?
Comment by squegeeboo — May 5, 2006 @ 1:57 pm
At 17, I didn’t need to have a baby. You’re better off with the mother you have.
Plus a semi-live version of you online is exhaustive enough already. I can’t imagine you in person. :)
Did ya’ll hear about the 63 year old woman who is pregnant?
May 5th, 2006 at 2:01 pm#156 – Well, I was chewing my toenails at my desk one day, and Zoo Boss voiced a certain displeasure. That’s how I worked it out. ;)
May 5th, 2006 at 2:01 pm#159 – Did ya’ll hear about the 63 year old woman who is pregnant?
Comment by unbelievable
I heard she’s delighted. Personally, I’d drive myself across the beautiful Columbia Gorge, and down the lovely coast highway of California, to the gorgeous Bay Area, and throw myself happily off the Golden Gate Bridge.
May 5th, 2006 at 2:05 pm“You’re better off with the mother you have.”
She is kickass. How many other moms go rock climbing and the such, and manage to deal with me on a regular basis.
May 5th, 2006 at 2:06 pmWell, I was chewing my toenails at my desk one day, and Zoo Boss voiced a certain displeasure. That’s how I worked it out. ;)
Comment by Zookeeper — May 5, 2006 @ 2:01 pm
Corporate Nazis!
May 5th, 2006 at 2:06 pm#162 – You’re a good boy Squeegy, make sure you tell your Mom thanks from us. ;)
Zoo Jr was singing “I’ve got the best Mom in the world” this morning, but it was in the voice of Cartman, and he wanted $2 for lunch, so I’m suspicious.
May 5th, 2006 at 2:08 pmand throw myself happily off the Golden Gate Bridge.
Comment by Zookeeper — May 5, 2006 @ 2:05 pm
I think abortion is still legal in Idaho… Would save you the gas money of that drive :).
I miss the Golden Gate Bridge, and the park, and the ocean. Don’t miss the high rent or taxes though…
May 5th, 2006 at 2:08 pmThe Coming Decline of Oil, by Lester Brown, Earth Policy Institute.
Twilight in the Desert: The Coming Saudi Oil Shock and the World Economy, by Matthew R. Simmons
We have the wrong administration, the wrong people in the WH for these types of problems. As they said over at Buzzflash: their theme song should be “Don’t Send in the Clowns; We’re Already Here.”
May 5th, 2006 at 2:09 pmZoo Jr was singing “I’ve got the best Mom in the world†this morning, but it was in the voice of Cartman, and he wanted $2 for lunch, so I’m suspicious.
Comment by Zookeeper — May 5, 2006 @ 2:08 pm
Thanks for reminding me why the children I have go home at the end of the school day. :)
May 5th, 2006 at 2:09 pmCorporate Nazis!
I know, I was considering filing a complaint about the hostile workplace.
I think abortion is still legal in Idaho…
It is, but I’d have to go to Washington or drive to Boise. I’d rather drive to my old home and people watch on the Wharf. ;)
May 5th, 2006 at 2:12 pmI know, I was considering filing a complaint about the hostile workplace.
I bet Johnny Cochran would take that case!
I’d rather drive to my old home and people watch on the Wharf. ;)
Comment by Zookeeper — May 5, 2006 @ 2:12 pm
Do you ever visit?
May 5th, 2006 at 2:14 pm#169 I’d like to see Johnny Cochrane take any case these days – that would be quite a stunt.
May 5th, 2006 at 2:16 pm#169 – It’s hard to take a case when you’re a moldering corpse. ;)
See #170.
I haven’t been back to the Bay Area for about 16 years. We left just before the big earthquake during the world series. Drove out of there on the road that collapsed. *shiver* Zoo Jr wanted to go down that way on our after-graduation road trip, but with gas prices our trip is probably going to be toward Canada.
May 5th, 2006 at 2:21 pmif zombie regan can run in 2008, then Cochrane can take one more case.
May 5th, 2006 at 2:25 pm#172 – Point taken.
May 5th, 2006 at 2:33 pmAddition:
Fake TV News: Widespread and Undisclosed, “A multimedia report on television newsrooms’ use of material provided by PR firms on behalf of paying clients”
I thought these were called infomercials, to sell something, and had to have disclaimers.
The media should be unbiased and report accurately what is happening in our government(s), country, and the world. If we can not trust the media for accurate information to make informed, educated decisions, then do we really have a Democracy… do we have freedom.
May 5th, 2006 at 2:43 pmIt’s hard to take a case when you’re a moldering corpse. ;)
When did that happen? Shows you how much I’ve been paying attention to that kind of news… :)
I haven’t been back to the Bay Area for about 16 years. We left just before the big earthquake during the world series. Drove out of there on the road that collapsed. *shiver* Zoo Jr wanted to go down that way on our after-graduation road trip, but with gas prices our trip is probably going to be toward Canada.
Comment by Zookeeper — May 5, 2006 @ 2:21 pm
I was always creeped out driving out of the city toward Oakland on the Bay Bridge. The view of the road above made me want to get off as fast as possible. And I had only seen the ramifications of the quake.
Canada as in Banff or Kootenay or some similar natural spendor? I’ve been dying to get to that part of the world. Would love to hear about your trip. :)
May 5th, 2006 at 3:08 pm“Famed attorney Johnnie Cochran dead – Mar 30, 2005″
That’s why I didn’t know – was on a multi-week cross country trip through places that occasionally got Rush Limbaugh on the radio. Needless to say, I listened to CD’s. :)
May 5th, 2006 at 3:10 pmIf Iraq pumps between 2,000,000, to 1,000,000 barrels a day of oil, and the oil price is appx. $70/ barrel, that’s $140 to $70 million per day.
Who is getting that money? Where is that money going? Is it helping to pay for Iraq security, military, schools, hospitals, etc?
Is this money above and beyond what we are paying for the Iraq war?
Stupid question to be asking at this point, but is Iraq a war? It doesn’t seem to be in the traditional definition. When the history books are written and the kids start memorizing, what will it say? We attacked Iraq because ___?
May 5th, 2006 at 3:31 pm#175 – Mmmm, Banff. Brokeback Mountain country.
Sorry to break the news about Cochran so rudely. :0
May 5th, 2006 at 4:14 pmSmart man, too smart for his own good, didn’t like him much.
Breaking News:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/05/kennedy.accident/index.html
Turns out that Kennedy feels the need to go to rehab for his addiction problem, even though he had been “taking the prescribed amounts of a sleep aid and an anti-nausea drug.”
May 5th, 2006 at 4:33 pm[...] Think Progress [...]
May 5th, 2006 at 4:50 pm179
Turns out that Kennedy feels the need to go to rehab for his addiction problem, even though he had been “taking the prescribed amounts of a sleep aid and an anti-nausea drug.â€
I am actually proud that he is going to get needed help. I am also glad that he admitted he had a problem to the country.
The negatives
The cops didn’t go through procedure and let him go home. (What would happen if it was a republican here, what would be said about the cops then)?
Why did this get release on Friday Afternoon so that it can all be forgotten about by Monday?
May 5th, 2006 at 5:05 pm#181 – Re rehab: I’m proud, too. Best to get this kind of thing taken care of right away.
Re cops: The cops should have been allowed to do their jobs. If it was a repub, it would be the same thing, except they wouldn’t have admitted a problem as quickly.
Re Friday: Old trick, both parties. I’m pretty sure we’re catching on though. ;)
May 5th, 2006 at 5:23 pm183
Re Friday: Old trick, both parties. I’m pretty sure we’re catching on though. ;)
The public is adapting what will they do next :)
May 5th, 2006 at 5:42 pm#183 – Missing white girls 24/7
May 5th, 2006 at 5:58 pm#184, damn, did another one go missing? Where are they all going? People should be more careful with their white girls.
May 5th, 2006 at 6:39 pm#186 – I’m a white girl, and I’ve never gone missing. I’ve never even been to Aruba. I feel like I’m missing something. :(
May 5th, 2006 at 8:03 pmthe bus thing….another way of looking at it is that it makes it (potentially) unsafe for people/fans in regular buses. not a smart move in many regards.
on the other hand, over here, buses have numbers of some sort, right? — usually in connection with the bus line or owner. not to mention license plates. i wonder if that’s all true over there. since the buses were “presented†for all to see, it seems like the un-flagged bus is still pretty much a known entity, and the attempt at secrecy is flaccid at best.
why isn’t the UK bus unmarked? they just piggy-back on our ideas, anyway.
Comment by commander other
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They’re the official team’s buses. Only the individual teams will use them. It’s a sad indictment that the US has taken this decision not to have the stars & stripes displayed on their team coach (when do the US give up the chance to show nationalistic pride). But if they want to standout from the rest, draw more attention to themselves, then that is their over-reaction prerogative.
As for the question as to why the UK’s team coach will not be unmarked? The England football team will be the only team from the UK at this year’s football World Cup in Germany. As Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, didn’t qualify for these years’ finals. Oh what a shame for Scottish football.
As for Great Britain piggy-backing on American ideas. Yes that is what we do, and fine damn ideas they’re to. George W. Bush is the master ideas tactician. If only Tony Blair was as bright as George W. Bush, then everything would just be super-dooper.
May 5th, 2006 at 10:16 pmSqueege Clinton was President from Jan 1 2001 until noon Jan 20 2001 there fore Bush is the worst president of the 21st century and Clinton the best….hell even artman would be a better president than the chimp in chief…
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