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	<title>Comments on: The Importance of &#8216;Nine Fingers&#8217;: Second Powerful Goss Aide Linked to Wilkes Parties</title>
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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; &#8216;Nine Fingers&#8217; also linked to Wilkes.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; &#8216;Nine Fingers&#8217; also linked to Wilkes.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 00:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Harper&#8217;s Ken Silverstein: &#8220;Two former CIA officers told me that Foggo, Bassett [aka &#8220;Nine Fingers&#8221;], and a third man &#8212; a CIA official close to Goss, whose name I learned but am withholding because he remains undercover &#8212; have been friends for years and worked together overseas. According to these two sources, Bassett and the undercover officer (whom Goss brought up to the 7th Floor at Langley when he took over the CIA) positioned Foggo to be picked by Goss for the number-three slot. Perhaps more importantly, I&#8217;m told that Bassett, like Foggo, has connections to [corrupt defense contractor Brent] Wilkes.&#8221; &#160;  8:39 pm &#124; Comment&#160;(0) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Harper&#8217;s Ken Silverstein: &#8220;Two former CIA officers told me that Foggo, Bassett [aka &#8220;Nine Fingers&#8221;], and a third man &#8212; a CIA official close to Goss, whose name I learned but am withholding because he remains undercover &#8212; have been friends for years and worked together overseas. According to these two sources, Bassett and the undercover officer (whom Goss brought up to the 7th Floor at Langley when he took over the CIA) positioned Foggo to be picked by Goss for the number-three slot. Perhaps more importantly, I&#8217;m told that Bassett, like Foggo, has connections to [corrupt defense contractor Brent] Wilkes.&#8221; &nbsp;  8:39 pm | Comment&nbsp;(0) [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=549322', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 13:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time for phased-in term limits for all elected American officials.  Thank you for your public service, next please.  Ready to just say  noe more?  I need help - thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time for phased-in term limits for all elected American officials.  Thank you for your public service, next please.  Ready to just say  noe more?  I need help &#8211; thanks<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=547668', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: KJ Lovell</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 08:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Darth Cheeney is scheduled to be in Duncan, OK for the Halliburton Shareholders meeting on 5/16/06. City officials on the record deny it, but off the record say it is true. Some schools will be closed that day, again school officials on the record deny it, but off the record admit it.

One official with law enforcement off the record says it is true, and that over 600 SWAT team members will be at the ready should anything go afoul.

What is really funny is the fact that the meeting, usually held in Houston was moved for the first time in over two decades to a little po-dunk town where Halliburton originated.

The thing that smells of fascism is over 60 groups have filed with the City for permits to gather, yet only one permit has been issued. Boys and girls can you say coverup/limit dissent?

you can call the city of duncan to ask at 580-252-0250 and ask for the city manager you can call the police dept at 580-255-2112
you can call the board of ed at 580-255-0686
you can call the sherriffs dept at 580-255-3131

Thanks for all your help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Darth Cheeney is scheduled to be in Duncan, OK for the Halliburton Shareholders meeting on 5/16/06. City officials on the record deny it, but off the record say it is true. Some schools will be closed that day, again school officials on the record deny it, but off the record admit it.</p>
<p>One official with law enforcement off the record says it is true, and that over 600 SWAT team members will be at the ready should anything go afoul.</p>
<p>What is really funny is the fact that the meeting, usually held in Houston was moved for the first time in over two decades to a little po-dunk town where Halliburton originated.</p>
<p>The thing that smells of fascism is over 60 groups have filed with the City for permits to gather, yet only one permit has been issued. Boys and girls can you say coverup/limit dissent?</p>
<p>you can call the city of duncan to ask at 580-252-0250 and ask for the city manager you can call the police dept at 580-255-2112<br />
you can call the board of ed at 580-255-0686<br />
you can call the sherriffs dept at 580-255-3131</p>
<p>Thanks for all your help<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=547105', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/08/importance-of-9-fingers/comment-page-1/#comment-546546</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 04:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks KJ Lovell for all the information you posted on here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks KJ Lovell for all the information you posted on here!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=546546', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: KJ Lovell</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 03:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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Northwoods Memorandum (March 13, 1962) Click PDFOperation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro as part of the U.S. government&#039;s Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative. The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real state sponsored terrorism (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the highest ranking member of the U.S. military, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.

The proposal was presented in a document entitled &quot;Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba,&quot; a collection of draft memoranda (PDF PDF) written by the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) representative to the Caribbean Survey Group. The document was presented by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13 with one paragraph approved, as a preliminary submission for planning purposes.

The previously secret document was originally made public on November 18, 1997 by the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Review Board[1], a U.S. federal agency overseeing the release of government records related to John F. Kennedy&#039;s assassination.[2][3] A total of about 1500 pages of once-secret military records covering 1962 to 1964 were concomitantly declassified by said Review Board.

&quot;Appendix to Enclosure A&quot; and &quot;Annex to Appendix to Enclosure A&quot; of the Northwoods document were first published online by the National Security Archive on November 6, 1998 in a joint venture with CNN as part of CNN&#039;s 1998 Cold War television documentary series[4]â€”specifically, as a documentation supplement to &quot;Episode 10: Cuba,&quot; which aired on November 29, 1998.[5] &quot;Annex to Appendix to Enclosure A&quot; is the section of the document which contains the proposals to stage terrorist attacks.

The Northwoods document was published online in a more complete form (i.e., including cover memoranda) by the National Security Archive on April 30, 2001.[6]


In response to a request for pretexts for military intervention by the Chief of Operations, Cuba Project (Col. Edward Lansdale), the document lists methods (with, in some cases, outline plans) the author believed would garner public and international support for US military intervention in Cuba. These are staged attacks purporting to be of Cuban origin, with a number of them having real casualties. Central to the plan was the use of &quot;friendly Cubans&quot;â€”Cuban exiles seeking to oust Fidel Castro.

The suggestions included:

Starting rumors about Cuba by using clandestine radios. 
Staging mock attacks, sabotages and riots at Guantanamo Bay and blaming it on Cuban forces. 
Firebombing and sinking an American ship at the Guantanamo Bay American military baseâ€”reminiscent of the USS Maine incident at Havana in 1898, which started the Spanish-American Warâ€”or destroy American aircraft and blame it on Cuban forces. (The document&#039;s first suggestion regarding the sinking of a U.S. ship is to blow up a manned ship and hence would result in U.S. Navy members being killed, with a secondary suggestion of possibly using unmanned drones and fake funerals instead.) 
&quot;Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type [sic] planes would be useful as complementary actions.&quot; 
Destroying an unmanned drone masquerading as a commercial aircraft supposedly full of &quot;college students off on a holiday&quot;. This proposal was the one supported by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. 
Staging a &quot;terror campaign&quot;, including the &quot;real or simulated&quot; sinking of Cuban refugees 
&quot;We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute [sic] to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized.&quot; 
Burning crops by dropping incendiary devices in Haiti, Dominican Republic or elsewhere. 
According to James Bamford in Body of Secrets:

Operation Northwoods, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war. 
[edit]
Related Operation Mongoose Proposals

In addition to Operation Northwoods, under the Operation Mongoose program the Department of Defense had a number of similar proposals to be taken against the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro.

Twelve of these proposals come from a February 2, 1962 memorandum entitled &quot;Possible Actions to Provoke, Harass or Disrupt Cuba,&quot; written by Brig. Gen. William H. Craig and submitted to Brig. Gen. Edward Lansdale, the commander of the Operation Mongoose project.[7][8][9][10][11][12]

The memorandum outlines Operation Bingo, a plan to, in its words, &quot;create an incident which has the appearance of an attack on U.S. facilities (GMO) in Cuba, thus providing an excuse for use of U.S. military might to overthrow the current government of Cuba.&quot;

It also includes Operation Dirty Trick, a plot to blame Castro if the 1962 Mercury manned space flight carrying John Glenn crashed, saying &quot;The objective is to provide irrevocable proof that, should the MERCURY manned orbit flight fail, the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic].&quot; It continues, &quot;This to be accomplished by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans.&quot;

Even after General Lyman Lemnitzer lost his job as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Joint Chiefs of Staff still planned pretext operations at least into 1963. A different Department of Defense policy paper created in 1963 (reported on by the Associated Press on January 29, 1998[13] and later in journalist James Bamford&#039;s book Body of Secrets, published April 24, 2001[14]) discussed a plan to make it appear that Cuba had attacked a member of the Organization of American States (OAS) so that the United States could retaliate. The Pentagon document says of one of the scenarios, &quot;A contrived &#039;Cuban&#039; attack on an OAS member could be set up, and the attacked state could be urged to take measures of self-defense and request assistance from the U.S. and OAS.&quot; The plan expresses confidence that by this action &quot;the U.S. could almost certainly obtain the necessary two-thirds support among OAS members for collective action against Cuba.&quot;

Included in the nations the Joint Chiefs suggested that the United States covertly attack were Jamaica and Trinidad-Tobago. Since both were members of the British Commonwealth, the Joint Chiefs hoped that by secretly attacking them and then falsely blaming Cuba, the United States could incite the people of England into supporting a war against Castro. As the Pentagon report noted, &quot;Any of the contrived situations described above are inherently, extremely risky in our democratic system in which security can be maintained, after the fact, with very great difficulty. If the decision should be made to set up a contrived situation it should be one in which participation by U.S. personnel is limited only to the most highly trusted covert personnel. This suggests the infeasibility of the use of military units for any aspect of the contrived situation.&quot;

The Pentagon report even suggested covertly paying a person in the Castro government to attack the United States: &quot;The only area remaining for consideration then would be to bribe one of Castro&#039;s subordinate commanders to initiate an attack on [the U.S. Navy base at] Guantanamo.&quot;


It has been reported that John F. Kennedy personally rejected the Northwoods proposal, but no official record of this exists. The proposal was sent for approval to the Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, but was not implemented. President Kennedy removed General Lyman Lemnitzer as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff shortly afterward, although he became Supreme Allied Commander of NATO in January 1963.

The continuing push against the Cuban government by internal elements of the U.S. military and intelligence community (the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion, The Cuban Project, etc.) prompted President John F. Kennedy to attempt to rein in burgeoning hardline anti-Communist sentiment that was intent on proactive, aggressive action against communist movements around the globe. After the Bay of Pigs, John F. Kennedy fired then CIA director Allen W. Dulles, Deputy Director Charles P. Cabell, as well as Deputy Director Richard Bissell, and turned his attention towards Vietnam.

Kennedy also took steps to bring discipline to the CIA&#039;s Cold War and paramilitary operations by drafting a National Security Action Memorandum (NSAM) which called for the shift of Cold War operations to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and The Pentagon as well as a major change in the role of the CIA to exclusively deal in intelligence gathering.

Since its declassification, the document has often been cited as evidence of historical precedent for a number of claimed contemporary conspiracies relating to government manipulation of public sentiment surrounding foreign policy through violent acts, including the suggestion that the U.S. government was responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks.</description>
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<p>Northwoods Memorandum (March 13, 1962) Click PDFOperation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro as part of the U.S. government&#8217;s Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative. The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real state sponsored terrorism (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the highest ranking member of the U.S. military, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.</p>
<p>The proposal was presented in a document entitled &#8220;Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba,&#8221; a collection of draft memoranda (PDF PDF) written by the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) representative to the Caribbean Survey Group. The document was presented by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13 with one paragraph approved, as a preliminary submission for planning purposes.</p>
<p>The previously secret document was originally made public on November 18, 1997 by the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Review Board[1], a U.S. federal agency overseeing the release of government records related to John F. Kennedy&#8217;s assassination.[2][3] A total of about 1500 pages of once-secret military records covering 1962 to 1964 were concomitantly declassified by said Review Board.</p>
<p>&#8220;Appendix to Enclosure A&#8221; and &#8220;Annex to Appendix to Enclosure A&#8221; of the Northwoods document were first published online by the National Security Archive on November 6, 1998 in a joint venture with CNN as part of CNN&#8217;s 1998 Cold War television documentary series[4]â€”specifically, as a documentation supplement to &#8220;Episode 10: Cuba,&#8221; which aired on November 29, 1998.[5] &#8220;Annex to Appendix to Enclosure A&#8221; is the section of the document which contains the proposals to stage terrorist attacks.</p>
<p>The Northwoods document was published online in a more complete form (i.e., including cover memoranda) by the National Security Archive on April 30, 2001.[6]</p>
<p>In response to a request for pretexts for military intervention by the Chief of Operations, Cuba Project (Col. Edward Lansdale), the document lists methods (with, in some cases, outline plans) the author believed would garner public and international support for US military intervention in Cuba. These are staged attacks purporting to be of Cuban origin, with a number of them having real casualties. Central to the plan was the use of &#8220;friendly Cubans&#8221;â€”Cuban exiles seeking to oust Fidel Castro.</p>
<p>The suggestions included:</p>
<p>Starting rumors about Cuba by using clandestine radios.<br />
Staging mock attacks, sabotages and riots at Guantanamo Bay and blaming it on Cuban forces.<br />
Firebombing and sinking an American ship at the Guantanamo Bay American military baseâ€”reminiscent of the USS Maine incident at Havana in 1898, which started the Spanish-American Warâ€”or destroy American aircraft and blame it on Cuban forces. (The document&#8217;s first suggestion regarding the sinking of a U.S. ship is to blow up a manned ship and hence would result in U.S. Navy members being killed, with a secondary suggestion of possibly using unmanned drones and fake funerals instead.)<br />
&#8220;Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type [sic] planes would be useful as complementary actions.&#8221;<br />
Destroying an unmanned drone masquerading as a commercial aircraft supposedly full of &#8220;college students off on a holiday&#8221;. This proposal was the one supported by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.<br />
Staging a &#8220;terror campaign&#8221;, including the &#8220;real or simulated&#8221; sinking of Cuban refugees<br />
&#8220;We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute [sic] to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized.&#8221;<br />
Burning crops by dropping incendiary devices in Haiti, Dominican Republic or elsewhere.<br />
According to James Bamford in Body of Secrets:</p>
<p>Operation Northwoods, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war.<br />
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Related Operation Mongoose Proposals</p>
<p>In addition to Operation Northwoods, under the Operation Mongoose program the Department of Defense had a number of similar proposals to be taken against the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro.</p>
<p>Twelve of these proposals come from a February 2, 1962 memorandum entitled &#8220;Possible Actions to Provoke, Harass or Disrupt Cuba,&#8221; written by Brig. Gen. William H. Craig and submitted to Brig. Gen. Edward Lansdale, the commander of the Operation Mongoose project.[7][8][9][10][11][12]</p>
<p>The memorandum outlines Operation Bingo, a plan to, in its words, &#8220;create an incident which has the appearance of an attack on U.S. facilities (GMO) in Cuba, thus providing an excuse for use of U.S. military might to overthrow the current government of Cuba.&#8221;</p>
<p>It also includes Operation Dirty Trick, a plot to blame Castro if the 1962 Mercury manned space flight carrying John Glenn crashed, saying &#8220;The objective is to provide irrevocable proof that, should the MERCURY manned orbit flight fail, the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic].&#8221; It continues, &#8220;This to be accomplished by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even after General Lyman Lemnitzer lost his job as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Joint Chiefs of Staff still planned pretext operations at least into 1963. A different Department of Defense policy paper created in 1963 (reported on by the Associated Press on January 29, 1998[13] and later in journalist James Bamford&#8217;s book Body of Secrets, published April 24, 2001[14]) discussed a plan to make it appear that Cuba had attacked a member of the Organization of American States (OAS) so that the United States could retaliate. The Pentagon document says of one of the scenarios, &#8220;A contrived &#8216;Cuban&#8217; attack on an OAS member could be set up, and the attacked state could be urged to take measures of self-defense and request assistance from the U.S. and OAS.&#8221; The plan expresses confidence that by this action &#8220;the U.S. could almost certainly obtain the necessary two-thirds support among OAS members for collective action against Cuba.&#8221;</p>
<p>Included in the nations the Joint Chiefs suggested that the United States covertly attack were Jamaica and Trinidad-Tobago. Since both were members of the British Commonwealth, the Joint Chiefs hoped that by secretly attacking them and then falsely blaming Cuba, the United States could incite the people of England into supporting a war against Castro. As the Pentagon report noted, &#8220;Any of the contrived situations described above are inherently, extremely risky in our democratic system in which security can be maintained, after the fact, with very great difficulty. If the decision should be made to set up a contrived situation it should be one in which participation by U.S. personnel is limited only to the most highly trusted covert personnel. This suggests the infeasibility of the use of military units for any aspect of the contrived situation.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Pentagon report even suggested covertly paying a person in the Castro government to attack the United States: &#8220;The only area remaining for consideration then would be to bribe one of Castro&#8217;s subordinate commanders to initiate an attack on [the U.S. Navy base at] Guantanamo.&#8221;</p>
<p>It has been reported that John F. Kennedy personally rejected the Northwoods proposal, but no official record of this exists. The proposal was sent for approval to the Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, but was not implemented. President Kennedy removed General Lyman Lemnitzer as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff shortly afterward, although he became Supreme Allied Commander of NATO in January 1963.</p>
<p>The continuing push against the Cuban government by internal elements of the U.S. military and intelligence community (the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion, The Cuban Project, etc.) prompted President John F. Kennedy to attempt to rein in burgeoning hardline anti-Communist sentiment that was intent on proactive, aggressive action against communist movements around the globe. After the Bay of Pigs, John F. Kennedy fired then CIA director Allen W. Dulles, Deputy Director Charles P. Cabell, as well as Deputy Director Richard Bissell, and turned his attention towards Vietnam.</p>
<p>Kennedy also took steps to bring discipline to the CIA&#8217;s Cold War and paramilitary operations by drafting a National Security Action Memorandum (NSAM) which called for the shift of Cold War operations to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and The Pentagon as well as a major change in the role of the CIA to exclusively deal in intelligence gathering.</p>
<p>Since its declassification, the document has often been cited as evidence of historical precedent for a number of claimed contemporary conspiracies relating to government manipulation of public sentiment surrounding foreign policy through violent acts, including the suggestion that the U.S. government was responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=546274', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: KJ Lovell</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 03:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KJ Lovell â€” youâ€™re right: the gender of the prostitutes is never mentioned by
     journalists covering this story. Can we infer by their not specifying gender that 
     they *mean* female prostitutes by default? Or is somebody playing word/gender 
     games to obfuscate? I wonderâ€¦ do you have any other background/sourcing on 
     this, that makes you think they might be male prostitutes? I know there have 
     been some gossipy Web rumblings about Duke Cunninghamâ€™s proclivities w/r/t 
     loving men, but thatâ€™s about it. Anybody have any evidence for either/or? 

     Comment by IncandenzaH

Washington times - 6/29/89 front page story....HOMOSEXUAL PROSTITUTION INQUIRY ENSNARES VIPS WITH REGAN AND BUSH - CALL BOYS TOOK MIDNIGHT TOUR OF WHITE HOUSE
The story is complete and even has pictures of receipts from the prostitutes. ONCE A DOG, ALWAYS A DOG.....more of the same time and again.

(even dumbya&#039;s speech about Hayden today was a dust off and repeat of the speech he gave when Goss was to be next head guy - only the names were changed)


     Porter Goss was in the CIA from around 1958 to 1972 &gt; he did take part in 
     the â€œBay of Pigsâ€ fiasco, that failed CIA invasion of Cuba! So did George Bush 
     Senior as well and it was called â€œOperation Zapataâ€ named after his oil drilling 
     company in Mexico! Bush supplied 3 of his oil ships for that debacle &gt; one was 
     named â€œBarbaraâ€ for his wife, another â€œHoustonâ€ for that Texas city, and I forget 
     the name of the third ship!

     Bush Senior was also in Dallas, Texas, the day JFK was shot dead, so why was he 
     there? 

     Comment by Jay Randal â€” May 8, 2006

And Jay, you forgot to mention &quot;Operation Northwoods&quot; a false flag operation that would use hijacked planes for domestic terror attacks here in the USA and they would blame Cuba and have an excuse to invade....McNamara said no....

So like I said above ONCE A DOG, ALWAYS A DOG....the REPUGnicans saved it for 40 years, dusted it off and used it 9/11......(see wikipedia for this one)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KJ Lovell â€” youâ€™re right: the gender of the prostitutes is never mentioned by<br />
     journalists covering this story. Can we infer by their not specifying gender that<br />
     they *mean* female prostitutes by default? Or is somebody playing word/gender<br />
     games to obfuscate? I wonderâ€¦ do you have any other background/sourcing on<br />
     this, that makes you think they might be male prostitutes? I know there have<br />
     been some gossipy Web rumblings about Duke Cunninghamâ€™s proclivities w/r/t<br />
     loving men, but thatâ€™s about it. Anybody have any evidence for either/or? </p>
<p>     Comment by IncandenzaH</p>
<p>Washington times &#8211; 6/29/89 front page story&#8230;.HOMOSEXUAL PROSTITUTION INQUIRY ENSNARES VIPS WITH REGAN AND BUSH &#8211; CALL BOYS TOOK MIDNIGHT TOUR OF WHITE HOUSE<br />
The story is complete and even has pictures of receipts from the prostitutes. ONCE A DOG, ALWAYS A DOG&#8230;..more of the same time and again.</p>
<p>(even dumbya&#8217;s speech about Hayden today was a dust off and repeat of the speech he gave when Goss was to be next head guy &#8211; only the names were changed)</p>
<p>     Porter Goss was in the CIA from around 1958 to 1972 &gt; he did take part in<br />
     the â€œBay of Pigsâ€ fiasco, that failed CIA invasion of Cuba! So did George Bush<br />
     Senior as well and it was called â€œOperation Zapataâ€ named after his oil drilling<br />
     company in Mexico! Bush supplied 3 of his oil ships for that debacle &gt; one was<br />
     named â€œBarbaraâ€ for his wife, another â€œHoustonâ€ for that Texas city, and I forget<br />
     the name of the third ship!</p>
<p>     Bush Senior was also in Dallas, Texas, the day JFK was shot dead, so why was he<br />
     there? </p>
<p>     Comment by Jay Randal â€” May 8, 2006</p>
<p>And Jay, you forgot to mention &#8220;Operation Northwoods&#8221; a false flag operation that would use hijacked planes for domestic terror attacks here in the USA and they would blame Cuba and have an excuse to invade&#8230;.McNamara said no&#8230;.</p>
<p>So like I said above ONCE A DOG, ALWAYS A DOG&#8230;.the REPUGnicans saved it for 40 years, dusted it off and used it 9/11&#8230;&#8230;(see wikipedia for this one)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=546260', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 23:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 27-31 year old drama teacher had sex with a 13 thgru 17 year old boy(me)(it was fun and she did not carry any STD&#039;s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 27-31 year old drama teacher had sex with a 13 thgru 17 year old boy(me)(it was fun and she did not carry any STD&#8217;s).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545864', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: james risser</title>
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		<dc:creator>james risser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 23:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30

are you from norway, by any chance?

anyway, if you look at the main thread on this issue, you will see that a) there are pirate perch in texas; b) a much larger perch, the nile perch, was &#039;seeded&#039; in several texas lakes and ponds because it was seen as a more &#039;sporty&#039; fish; and c) whitehouse.gov has your president saying that there are perch in his private hole, as well as bass.

however, if your answer to the initial question posed is &#039;yes&#039;, then, maybe not so much...</description>
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<p>are you from norway, by any chance?</p>
<p>anyway, if you look at the main thread on this issue, you will see that a) there are pirate perch in texas; b) a much larger perch, the nile perch, was &#8217;seeded&#8217; in several texas lakes and ponds because it was seen as a more &#8217;sporty&#8217; fish; and c) whitehouse.gov has your president saying that there are perch in his private hole, as well as bass.</p>
<p>however, if your answer to the initial question posed is &#8216;yes&#8217;, then, maybe not so much&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545861', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: james risser</title>
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		<dc:creator>james risser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 23:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did johnny nine fingers ever spend time in &lt;a href=&quot;http://joi.ito.com/archives/2004/05/28/chopping_pinkies_and_swords_grips.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;japan&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://joi.ito.com/archives/2005/06/04/differences_in_meaning_of_finger_chopping_in_korea_and_japan.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;korea&lt;/a&gt;?

he may have lost it up porter&#039;s bunghole?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did johnny nine fingers ever spend time in <a href="http://joi.ito.com/archives/2004/05/28/chopping_pinkies_and_swords_grips.html" rel="nofollow">japan</a> or <a href="http://joi.ito.com/archives/2005/06/04/differences_in_meaning_of_finger_chopping_in_korea_and_japan.html" rel="nofollow">korea</a>?</p>
<p>he may have lost it up porter&#8217;s bunghole?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545858', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Politisink - Post details: Nine Fingers, CIA Agent and lover of hookers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Politisink - Post details: Nine Fingers, CIA Agent and lover of hookers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 23:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: For Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>For Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 23:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I was linked to Wilkes parties. They sound like a good time. Now wait a minute, what are Republicans doing at my party, only I like parties with hookers and shit. Conservatives don&#039;t like that stuff, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I was linked to Wilkes parties. They sound like a good time. Now wait a minute, what are Republicans doing at my party, only I like parties with hookers and shit. Conservatives don&#8217;t like that stuff, right?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545819', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 22:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post 39 &gt; the White house does not want the press to publish the sex of the hookers or their ages either! Underage hookers means under 18 teenagers, which would mean sex crimes took place as well! If Foggo had sex with a 16 year old boy this scandal would explode like a nuke?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post 39 &gt; the White house does not want the press to publish the sex of the hookers or their ages either! Underage hookers means under 18 teenagers, which would mean sex crimes took place as well! If Foggo had sex with a 16 year old boy this scandal would explode like a nuke?!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545747', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: IncandenzaH</title>
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		<dc:creator>IncandenzaH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 22:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KJ Lovell -- you&#039;re right: the gender of the prostitutes is never mentioned by journalists covering this story. Can we infer by their not specifying gender that they *mean* female prostitutes by default? Or is somebody playing word/gender games to obfuscate? I wonder... do you have any other background/sourcing on this, that makes you think they might be male prostitutes? I know there have been some gossipy Web rumblings about Duke Cunningham&#039;s proclivities w/r/t loving men, but that&#039;s about it. Anybody have any evidence for either/or?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KJ Lovell &#8212; you&#8217;re right: the gender of the prostitutes is never mentioned by journalists covering this story. Can we infer by their not specifying gender that they *mean* female prostitutes by default? Or is somebody playing word/gender games to obfuscate? I wonder&#8230; do you have any other background/sourcing on this, that makes you think they might be male prostitutes? I know there have been some gossipy Web rumblings about Duke Cunningham&#8217;s proclivities w/r/t loving men, but that&#8217;s about it. Anybody have any evidence for either/or?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545736', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Stupid Republicans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stupid Republicans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 22:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Build more prisons!

Invest in KY Jelly!

The republican party is going down!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Build more prisons!</p>
<p>Invest in KY Jelly!</p>
<p>The republican party is going down!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545728', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 22:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Porter Goss was in the CIA from around 1958 to 1972 &gt; he did take part in the &quot;Bay of Pigs&quot; fiasco, that failed CIA invasion of Cuba! So did George Bush Senior as well and it was called &quot;Operation Zapata&quot; named after his oil drilling company in Mexico! Bush supplied 3 of his oil ships for that debacle &gt; one was named &quot;Barbara&quot; for his wife, another &quot;Houston&quot; for that Texas city, and I forget the name of the third ship!

Bush Senior was also in Dallas, Texas, the day JFK was shot dead, so why was he there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porter Goss was in the CIA from around 1958 to 1972 &gt; he did take part in the &#8220;Bay of Pigs&#8221; fiasco, that failed CIA invasion of Cuba! So did George Bush Senior as well and it was called &#8220;Operation Zapata&#8221; named after his oil drilling company in Mexico! Bush supplied 3 of his oil ships for that debacle &gt; one was named &#8220;Barbara&#8221; for his wife, another &#8220;Houston&#8221; for that Texas city, and I forget the name of the third ship!</p>
<p>Bush Senior was also in Dallas, Texas, the day JFK was shot dead, so why was he there?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545726', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 21:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey if we find out that &quot;Nine Fingers&quot; was in Dallas in 1963 he could be the hitman on JFK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey if we find out that &#8220;Nine Fingers&#8221; was in Dallas in 1963 he could be the hitman on JFK?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545709', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Hardy Haberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hardy Haberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 21:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys are looking more and more like the criminals I have always believed they were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys are looking more and more like the criminals I have always believed they were.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545706', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 21:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26..We still haven&#039;t gotten the truth about Goss&#039;s activites in Mexico City-1963 and a guy named Lee Harvey Oswald.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26..We still haven&#8217;t gotten the truth about Goss&#8217;s activites in Mexico City-1963 and a guy named Lee Harvey Oswald.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545704', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 21:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the Mafia plays a poker that if you lose the game your pinky little finger gets cut off! Interesting to find out what digit is missing? If a little finger is missing, then perhaps the CIA guy has Mafia connections? His pet name of &quot;9 fingers&quot; implies a Mafia hitman guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the Mafia plays a poker that if you lose the game your pinky little finger gets cut off! Interesting to find out what digit is missing? If a little finger is missing, then perhaps the CIA guy has Mafia connections? His pet name of &#8220;9 fingers&#8221; implies a Mafia hitman guy!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545702', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MXXLENT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MXXLENT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 21:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the second time I check left wing blogs and caught another lie.  First it was lying about what Jon Seceda sang at the inaugruation

Now left wing blogs are lying about what Bush said to the BILD magazine

&quot;And so I would say the toughest moment of all was after the whole reality sunk in and I was trying to help the nation understand what was going on, and at the same time, be empathetic for those who had lost lives. 

The best moment was -- you know, I&#039;ve had a lot of great moments. I don&#039;t know, it&#039;s hard to characterize the great moments. They&#039;ve all been busy moments, by the way. I would say the best moment was when I caught a seven-and-a-half pound large mouth bass on my lake. (Laughter.) &quot;

First of all it&#039;s a bass not a perch as several left wing blogs are lying about.  Also you can see Bush is making a joke obviously after saying he couldnt single out one.

Anyway the point here is that left wing blogs are not holy - they twist words and lie just like right wing blogs.  So next time you call Bush a liar, look at yourself first</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the second time I check left wing blogs and caught another lie.  First it was lying about what Jon Seceda sang at the inaugruation</p>
<p>Now left wing blogs are lying about what Bush said to the BILD magazine</p>
<p>&#8220;And so I would say the toughest moment of all was after the whole reality sunk in and I was trying to help the nation understand what was going on, and at the same time, be empathetic for those who had lost lives. </p>
<p>The best moment was &#8212; you know, I&#8217;ve had a lot of great moments. I don&#8217;t know, it&#8217;s hard to characterize the great moments. They&#8217;ve all been busy moments, by the way. I would say the best moment was when I caught a seven-and-a-half pound large mouth bass on my lake. (Laughter.) &#8221;</p>
<p>First of all it&#8217;s a bass not a perch as several left wing blogs are lying about.  Also you can see Bush is making a joke obviously after saying he couldnt single out one.</p>
<p>Anyway the point here is that left wing blogs are not holy &#8211; they twist words and lie just like right wing blogs.  So next time you call Bush a liar, look at yourself first<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=545698', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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