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ABA On Bush Nominee: ‘Insulated,’ ‘Very Stubborn,’ and ‘Sanctimonious’

The Senate Judiciary Committee is holding a hearing today to consider the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh, the current White House staff secretary. Bush has nominated him for lifetime seat on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals.

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In 2003, the American Bar Association rated Kavanaugh “well-qualified” despite acknowledging “he had never tried a case to verdict or judgment” and “he had very little experience with criminal cases.”

Yesterday, the ABA expanded upon those earlier concerns and announced it had downgraded Kavanaugh’s rating to “qualified” after conducting new interviews with judges and associates familiar with his work. (The ABA only offers ratings of well-qualified, qualified, and not qualified.)

Stephen Tober, the chairman of the 14-member committee, released a statement yesterday explaining why Kavanaugh was downgraded. The ABA contacted 91 individuals in the legal community, and here’s a sampling of what they said about Kavanaugh:

One judge who witnessed the nominee’s oral presentation in court commented that the nominee was “less than adequate” before the court, had been “sanctimonious,” and demonstrated “experience on the level of an associate.”

A lawyer who had observed him during a different court proceeding stated: “Mr. Kavanaugh did not handle the case well as an advocate and dissembled.” Other lawyers expressed similar concerns, repeating in substance that the nominee was young and inexperienced in the practice of law.

[T]he recent supplemental evaluation contained comments from several interviewees with more recent experience with the nominee, which caused them to characterize the nominee as “insulated.”

“(He is) immovable and very stubborn and frustrating to deal with on some issues.”

Another heckuva qualified Bush nominee.



86 Responses to “ABA On Bush Nominee: ‘Insulated,’ ‘Very Stubborn,’ and ‘Sanctimonious’”

  1. Fed Up American says:

    Does this story REALLY surprise anyone? A bushy appointed lackey stubborn and frustrating to deal with. WHAT A SHOCK!


  2. unbelievable says:

    Bush was taught nepotism works when Harvard and Yale gave him diplomas he didn’t actual earn. Really, what did we expect from him? Hard work and ethics?


  3. Krazny says:

    Bush’s primary quality in a candidate is loyalty. As long as this guy continues to push the admins agenda, he is a perfect fit.


  4. James says:

    The only qualification that interested Bush was his youth:)


  5. unbelievable says:

    And 7.5 lb perch :)



  6. Zookeeper says:

    In my experience in Idaho, the Bar will give you a good rating if you have your dues paid up, and don’t have a bunch of client complaints filed against you. Once your name is in the running for Judge, they will send out anonymous questionaires to the attorneys and judges in the state, and they rate you in several areas. That’s where the truth comes out, although if the judicial panel wants you, you’re in. As an attorney, you could be rated well at the Bar, but at the same time be a real SOB to with, and an idiot in court. Clients don’t see that side of their attorney, so they’re not a good source of information most of the time.

    Sounds perfect in Bush World.


  7. Badmoodman says:

    He’s young, white, Republican and so far, untouched by scandal. That makes him highly qualified, if not rare.


  8. Krazny says:

    I am not going to hold my breath on him being untouched by scandal. I don’t think enough is known yet.


  9. Massachusetts Liberal says:

    What’s he nominated for? (who, what, when, where)


  10. katy says:

    mass.lib. -
    click on “current White House staff secretary.” link above


  11. Faiz says:

    #10, I’ve added: “Bush has nominated him for lifetime seat on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals.”


  12. KHRISTOL KHAGANS says:

    Another one of
    the ‘K’ streeters
    Greed is thy name
    Men with no shame
    money o’er man
    agenda hidden plan
    Death be damned
    they profiteth from
    death of man
    moire conquering wind
    war monger be
    cremation of care
    sociopaths truly be


  13. KHRISTOL KHAGANS says:

    Stubborn, Sanctimonius, Insulated

    Sounds like a photo copy of Bubble boy


  14. Jack says:

    Another heckuva qualified Bush nominee

    When Bush said the terrorists “hate us for our way of life”, what I don’t understand then, why is Bush himself destroying “our way of life”?


  15. nostrafarious says:

    The Nazi agenda advances by one point with this nomination. When will we learn? The smell of Armageddon is stronger than ever. We approach 7 minutes to Doomsday. Does the saber rattling with Iran move it to 6 minutes? 5 minutes?

    http://www.thebulletin.org/doomsday_clock/timeline.htm


  16. I-RIGHT-I says:

    “One judge who witnessed the nominee’s oral presentation in court commented that the nominee was “less than adequate” before the court, had been “sanctimonious,” and demonstrated “experience on the level of an associate.” ”

    Meowwwwww


  17. nostrafarious says:

    The Nazi agenda advances by one point with this nomination. When will we learn? The smell of Armageddon is stronger than ever. We approach 7 minutes to Doomsday. Does the saber rattling with Iran move it to 6 minutes? 5 minutes?

    Doomsday Clock


  18. Antagonist says:

    Face it—the biggest problem you guys have had with all of these nominations, is that Bush is the one doing the nominating. The left’s hatred is so transparent—good luck in November and in 08.


  19. james risser says:

    sounds perfect!!!

    and, it seems that dick cheney has a good hunting partner here as well!

    it’s a win/win


  20. james risser says:

    ‘the brettster’

    ‘kavvy’

    ‘the kav-meister’


  21. unbelievable says:

    Meowwwwww
    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 9, 2006 @ 12:39 pm

    That’s a good language for you. Alley cat :)


  22. james risser says:

    #20

    i wear my hatred for the bush crime family as a badge for all to see. you seem to imply that hatred for bush is something non-transparent. perhaps it is because the people that you support mask their hatred for humankind, in general, with layers and layers of bullshit.

    i hate this animal. every decision he makes is wrong. every word he speaks is a lie. will you now state an epiphany for seeing this hatred as transparent?

    as for this post you are commenting on, it appears to be regarding a statement by the aba who, if memory serves me, gave roberts and alito their highest rating. this statement by the aba is really something significant since it is, again, if i remember correctly, for the aba to speak so sharply in opposition to a candidate.

    and, just so we all understand, this candidate is the better of the two! the next one is truly abhorent…stay tuned.

    peace.

    and, please generously fcku bush


  23. unbelievable says:

    The left’s hatred is so transparent—good luck in November and in 08.
    Comment by Antagonist — May 9, 2006 @ 12:53 pm

    Very few people start off hating a random stranger. Usually, a public official has to earn it. Granted there are some of the lunatic fringe who hate anybody who is of the opposing viewpoint, but that’s to be expected. It’s not the 68% majority. And certainly not the 44% of conservatives who now disapprove of him.

    I still don’t hate Bush. I think his parents did a very bad job in raising him to think he could get whatever he wanted without earning it. No wonder that is the person he has become. It’s his mother I detest. She is a soulless wretch.


  24. Blue State Red says:

    Gee, if all these terrible things about Brett Kavanaugh are true, how did the ABA manage to miss them the first time around, when they rated him “well qualified”?

    Answer: Now that the Dems see the Kavanaugh nomination headed for confirmation, their allies at the ABA are ginning up critical comments on the nominee.

    Result: This is another nail in the coffin of ABA credibility in the judicial nomination process. For this organization to change its rating of a nominee in less than three years, while the nomination is still pending, is unprecedented. It is a breach of the ABA’s pledge to be nonpartisan in the nomination process.

    Both TP and the ABA predictably ignore the recent bipartisan letter endorsing the Kavanaugh nomination. There are none so blind as those who will not see.


  25. Blue State Red says:

    My favorites here are “stubborn” and “sanctimonious.” Has anyone ever met a federal judge who didn’t occasionally display these qualities? Indeed, we applaud these qualities in some judges – for example, Judge Brinkema in her handling of the Moussaoui trial. Yet the ABA cites these comments as grounds for changing Kavanaugh’s rating.

    The ABA has shot itself right in the heart of its credibility. This emperor has lost its clothes.


  26. orionATL says:

    insulated

    stubborn

    sanctimonious

    are you sure the ABA wasn’t describing

    bush

    rather than

    kavanaugh.


  27. james risser says:

    #26

    Gee, if all these terrible things about Brett Kavanaugh are true, how did the ABA manage to miss them the first time around, when they rated him “well qualified”?

    you aren’t from norway, are you?

    anyway, if you were to spend twelve minutes and read the statement that those blind people at tp linked to, you would have your answer. actually, you would have *the* answer; i’m afraid *your* answer would be something else…

    There are at least three general reasons to support the most recent rating given to this nominee. First, there was a wider universe of individuals contacted during the supplemental evaluation, than during the initial formal report or its update. The Standing Committee generally requires, at a minimum, 40 to 60 contacts with judges, lawyers and others in any nomination it is reviewing, although an evaluator is certainly free to do more. In 2003 there were 55 such contacts regarding Mr. Kavanaugh. In 2006, there were 91 such contacts. Nineteen more judges and seventeen more lawyers with potential knowledge about Mr. Kavanaugh were contacted, and not all of the original 55 contacts were summarily repeated. Thus, in 2006 a larger group of individuals was given the opportunity to share with the Standing Committee knowledge of the nominee’s integrity, professional competence, and potential for judicial temperament.

    Second, some individuals who may have had no contact with the nominee in 2003 were now individuals who had crossed paths with him. Some in public service or in the practice of law in 2003 were now no longer active, having been replaced in some measure by others. And, simply put, events and times had moved on, creating new and different developments and landscapes in which the professional qualifications of the nominee could be viewed, that were not present in 2003 or even 2005.

    Third, it should be pointed out that with both earlier ratings issued by the Standing Committee, there was a “minority Qualifed” as part of the vote. The official rating by the Standing Committee has always been and remains the majority rating, yet nonetheless it is important to underscore that some members of the 2003 and 2005 Standing Committee considered this nominee to be “Qualified.”

    just so you know, those little different colored lines underlining some of the words can be ‘clicked on’ and it will bring you to something you can ‘read’, or, have someone read to you…

    have a great day!


  28. Zookeeper says:

    #25 – It’s his mother I detest. She is a soulless wretch.
    Comment by unbelievable

    *shudder*


  29. big papa says:

    I still don’t hate Bush.

    I think his parents did a very bad job in raising him to think he could get whatever he wanted without earning it.

    Comment by unbelievable #25

    unbelievable,

    You’re MUCH too forgiving and…

    …you forgot to mention racist WASP male dominated American society’s double standards that helped to create ALL of the Bushivas of this country…

    Look at Kavanaugh…

    …all he has to be is the “right” color…

    …and understand that he only has to rule against the “wrong” ones…

    …and he’s got a job for LIFE!


  30. ElectricBassPlayer says:

    Hm, let’s see. . . “sanctimoniuous,” “dissembling,” and “insulated.” As well as using polite terminology for “mediocre.”

    Sounds like a perfect choice for this administration. They know what they’re doing.


  31. big papa says:

    Both TP and the ABA predictably ignore the recent bipartisan letter endorsing the Kavanaugh nomination. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

    Comment by Blue State Red #26

    Fool State inb’Red,

    The time for renewal of your optical scripts…

    …has long since past…

    …”SEEING” is definitely NOT your strong suit…


  32. Antagonist says:

    #25

    I think it goes much deeper for you and many others here than that. I think you’re diametrically opposed to conservatism. I think you’re all for minorities having positions of power, and I think you’re all for a woman being president, but let any of them be a conservative—endorsed by the GOP, and your tune will change instantly. Relentless criticism and character assassination will be in order, as it is in this case–except that Brett Kavanaugh is neither a woman or a minority–he just happens to be nominated by Bush…a conservative…head of the Republican party…


  33. unbelievable says:

    You’re MUCH too forgiving and…
    Comment by big papa — May 9, 2006 @ 1:35 pm

    Forgiveness has nothing to do with it. It’s about not wanting to be an alcoholic eaten up with cancer like my father who hated everything the Republicans told him he should hate. He died at 59. I avoid hate. And cigarettes.


  34. Antagonist says:

    #24
    Nice website James. What do you call it–a monument to lunacy?


  35. Spudge_Boy says:

    Now that the Dems see the Kavanaugh nomination headed for confirmation, their allies at the ABA are ginning up critical comments on the nominee.

    Blue State Red, you are an idiot. If the Dems had allies at the ABA, Alito and Roberts wouldn’t have received their highest mark. Do you think before you post, after you post or not at all?


  36. Antagonist says:

    #31 big papa

    I think your idiotic rants could find a home here http://www.rissercouk.blogspot.com/


  37. unbelievable says:

    think it goes much deeper for you and many others here than that.

    You really can lump millions of people in one pool of generality like that, you know?

    I think you’re diametrically opposed to conservatism.

    Not really. I was raised with conservative values, and though I didn’t like the whole enchilada, I kept a few. I think most people are a similar dichotomy is you look at it on an issue by issue basis.

    I think you’re all for minorities having positions of power, and I think you’re all for a woman being president, but let any of them be a conservative—endorsed by the GOP, and your tune will change instantly.

    Not so. Ask I-RIGHT-I what I said to him about that very subject. No one should be suppressed or elevated for things they don’t control – like gender and skin color. But by achievements and attitude. (Not to ruin his reputation around here, but he basically agreed. Go look it up in the archives if you want). The only place we did differ on the subject is that I think some people should be cut a break for certain inequities established by circumstances of birth (socio-economic mostly) – because we are very much the cultural products of our environments.

    Relentless criticism and character assassination will be in order, as it is in this case–except that Brett Kavanaugh is neither a woman or a minority–he just happens to be nominated by Bush…a conservative…head of the Republican party…
    Comment by Antagonist — May 9, 2006 @ 1:42 pm

    Yes Bush, with is 31% approval rating who has appointed some really incapable leaders. I’m just saying that it should be expected since he was raised on it.


  38. unbelievable says:

    Do you think before you post, after you post or not at all?
    Comment by Spudge_Boy — May 9, 2006 @ 1:46 pm

    C


  39. big papa says:

    I think your idiotic rants could find a home here http://www.rissercouk.blogspot.com/

    Comment by Antagonist #38

    Antichrist,

    …in your head is good enough for me…


  40. james risser says:

    #38

    the site you refer to is merely a collection of relevant news-articles supporting its thesis that

    george w. bush is a lying, murdering, evil, war-criminal

    it is a monument to the lunacy of your president and his crime family, yes. it is factual, and has dozens of links to news agencies from across the planet. it memorializes the lies, murders, the evilness, and attempts to catalogue the war crimes of the beast names bush…

    i don’t opine on the site, other than on occassion add headlines…it is in that sense a research/resource to those who choose to use it that way…


  41. Spudge_Boy says:

    Oh yeah and while were at it:

    ANTAGONIST, BUSH IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE. MY MOM AND DAD ARE CONSERVATIVES.


  42. Antagonist says:

    #42

    Oh… so you collect other peoples crackpot opinions and put your stamp of legitimacy on them.


  43. Antagonist says:

    #43

    Oh yeah and while were at it:

    ANTAGONIST, BUSH IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE. MY MOM AND DAD ARE CONSERVATIVES.

    Comment by Spudge_Boy

    …And they haven’t kicked you out of their house yet?


  44. Spudge_Boy says:

    Oh… so you collect other peoples crackpot opinions and put your stamp of legitimacy on them.

    The only crack pot opinion I see here is yours, but you already knew that.

    If you were talking abou the people that I mentioned, they ARE conservatives. Maybe you need to look up the definition. You might find out that you are something very scary.


  45. Spudge_Boy says:

    …And they haven’t kicked you out of their house yet?

    I have been supporting myself for the last 20 years. Next.

    Personal attacks on me won’t get you anywhere. Everybody here knows that not only do I work, but I am the conservatives worst nightmare. A highly trained, well paid member of society and I am a liberal. Eat it bitch.


  46. thelonegunman says:

    “One judge who witnessed the nominee’s oral presentation in court commented that the nominee was “less than adequate” before the court, had been “sanctimonious,” and demonstrated “experience on the level of an associate.”

    yep – sounds like a rovian through and through


  47. t-mac says:

    What’s a conservative anyway?
    Tax cuts for the rich?
    State sponsored religion?
    Hyper-capitalism?
    Middle class decay?
    Culture war?
    Global hegemony?

    Why do conservatives hate America?


  48. Antagonist says:

    #47

    Personal attacks on me won’t get you anywhere. Everybody here knows that not only do I work, but I am the conservatives worst nightmare. A highly trained, well paid member of society and I am a liberal. Eat it bitch.

    Comment by Spudge_Boy

    Conservatives worst nightmare! Don’t flatter yourself—I have three teenage daughters and you sound just like one of them—inflated ego…the world revolves around them…intense over-reaction to minor circumstances…their shit doesn’t stink…


  49. thelonegunman says:

    people, people, people…

    re: “Antagonist” – ignore wankers like this. After all, merely 10 years ago, people like this were cheering on Oxycontin-Rush and blaming Clinton for everything. Granted, Clinton left the country with a budget surplus, was only guilty of getting blown in the oval office, and governed during a huge boom – which wankers like these choose to forget except when they open their brokerage account statements.

    Don’t justify ignorance like this with similar petty low-brow comments.


  50. Krazny says:

    Just so the trolls don’t go apeshit. Clinton was guilty of lying under oath to a grand jury. True the thing he lied about didn’t affect national security, and was not part of the original scope of the investigation. But he did lie under oath. Bush has never lied under oath, mostly because he has never had to testify under oath.


  51. Zookeeper says:

    Ya’ll correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Antagonist is aptly named.


  52. Antagonist says:

    #51

    Thanks for that inspirational message thelonegunman. I especially liked the way you opened with people, people, people… It’s both an assumption of superiority and condescention at the same time…Brilliant! Then you followed with a unique blend of misrepresentations, history revisionism, and a dash of name-calling. You went through a lot of trouble to make yourself look like an ass—but it was worth it.


  53. Spudge_Boy says:

    Conservatives worst nightmare! Don’t flatter yourself—I have three teenage daughters and you sound just like one of them—inflated ego…the world revolves around them…intense over-reaction to minor circumstances…their shit doesn’t stink…

    Once again, you are wrong. You know nothing about me personally, so your personal attacks bounce off like foam rubber nerf arrows.

    Sounds to me like you have a case of bad parenting on your hands. You should ship your daughters off to a relative who is a liberal. Then your daughters won’t have the influence of a conservative asshole in their life.

    You are the one having problems, not me buddy. My oldest daughter is joy to be around as is my youngest. No talking back, no egos, they live within their means. They don’t take advantage of people and always help others, as they were taught.

    You are a stupid jerk that raised some brats. Your problem not mine.

    Also, a rich liberal IS the conservatives worst nightmare. I really think you outta look up what conservative means and what they stand for. You aren’t a very good one.


  54. SL Aronovitz says:

    Antagonist,

    Well now we know which one takes after you.


  55. Spudge_Boy says:

    You went through a lot of trouble to make yourself look like an ass—but it was worth it.

    You do that everytime you post, so you must be familiar with the technique.


  56. thelonegunman says:

    #54 – nice comeback, but again, you continue to try to instigate a fight and insult people rather than debate. this is a forum for debate, commentary, and not incendiary antagonism.

    in the future, I will ignore you petty and ahallow comments and encourage everyone here to do the same.


  57. thelonegunman says:

    #54 – nice comeback, but again, you continue to try to instigate a fight and insult people rather than debate. this is a forum for debate, commentary, and not incendiary antagonism.

    in the future, I will ignore your petty and ahallow comments and encourage everyone here to do the same.


  58. Antagonist says:

    #55

    Sounds to me like you have a case of bad parenting on your hands. You should ship your daughters off to a relative who is a liberal. Then your daughters won’t have the influence of a conservative asshole in their life.

    I give you a wee bit of information and you go and create your own reality.

    You are the one having problems, not me buddy. My oldest daughter is joy to be around as is my youngest. No talking back, no egos, they live within their means. They don’t take advantage of people and always help others, as they were taught.

    Pure crap…You probably don’t even have any daughters, or they’re not teenagers yet.
    The teen years are difficult years for kids. if your daughters were teenagers you would know this.

    You are a stupid jerk that raised some brats. Your problem not mine

    I also have a son…It could be your problem if your daughters were to meet him–unless you’re encouraging them to be lesbians.


  59. Krazny says:

    Children do emulate their parents. It is called learned behavior. You set the role model for your children every day in how you conduct yourself.


  60. unbelievable says:

    Children do emulate their parents. It is called learned behavior. You set the role model for your children every day in how you conduct yourself.
    Comment by Krazny — May 9, 2006 @ 3:21 pm

    Absolutely! Parents influence who their children will become more than anything else.


  61. Antagonist says:

    #59
    … but again, you continue to try to instigate a fight and insult people rather than debate. this is a forum for debate, commentary, and not incendiary antagonism.
    in the future, I will ignore your petty and ahallow comments and encourage everyone here to do the same.
    Comment by thelonegunman
    Debate with you guys is pointless. Any “troll” who posts an opposing view here is immediately under attack. It is the liberal regulars here who create an environment unsuitable for discussion. Any expectation of continuing a discussion and maintaining some respect for you guys is quickly dashed to the ground. I’ve learned to just cut to the chase, and get right into the antagonism.
    Go ahead—warn everyone about me—I guarantee that the worst offenders when it comes to name calling and insults will always respond to my antagonism. My presence alone embodies everything you guys loath—Conservatism, Republicans, Christianity, and traditional values. So with all your hate, many of you go after me like a punching bag with Bush’s face on it. You just don’t like getting hit back.


  62. Antagonist says:

    Children do emulate their parents. It is called learned behavior. You set the role model for your children every day in how you conduct yourself.
    Comment by Krazny — May 9, 2006 @ 3:21 pm

    Absolutely! Parents influence who their children will become more than anything else.

    Comment by unbelievable

    Those with no children always seem to know the most about raising them.


  63. Krazny says:

    Umm I do have children. I have posted about him before. You might want to get your facts straight before you attack.

    As for the other bullshit you spew, I am a moderate, I believe in living within my means, I believe that laws should be enforced, I go to church, and believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit. I love my wife and my family. I work hard, I pay my taxes, and my bills. I donate money to charity, and I try not to hurt my neighbors.

    Anything in there you don’t agree with antagonist?


  64. unbelievable says:

    Those with no children always seem to know the most about raising them.
    Comment by Antagonist — May 9, 2006 @ 3:43 pm

    A) it’s basic Psychology and Cultural Anthropology, not my opinion.

    B) I teach 120 kids. The fact that they are mostly not that different than who their parents raised tehm to be is a big clue that A is coorect.

    C) I attempt to discuss with yuo. You just ignore me when I do or insult me. So, take responsibility in here that you contribute to what you get. You’re not the victim.


  65. james risser says:

    Oh… so you collect other peoples crackpot opinions and put your stamp of legitimacy on them.

    #44

    first, for you, any opinion that offends your war-criminal are crackpot, apparently. most of the posts on fcuk bush are less opinion than they are news. for example, if the bush crime family goes to geneva to defend their hundreds of violations of the convention against torture, that is NEWS and not OPINION, crack-pot or otherwise. if your president bombs a village in pakistan and kills 14 civilians, that, likewise is NEWS and not OPINION.

    second, i don’t think i have the ability, nor the desire to add legitimacy to anyone mentioned on fukc bush. unlike your president, god hasn’t spoken to me and told me that one argument is more ‘legitimate’ than another. arguments are either well-founded or not well-founded. and NEWS is either TRUE or FALSE or somewhere in-between…

    perhaps you are from norway and have a different reality and different definitions of what is news and what is opinion. perhaps you are a dim-wit and are so enarmoured of your war-criminal that you not capable of making coherent arguments, but, prefer simple name-calling and making unsupported statements based on your ignorance. your issues are not my concern.

    shoo!!!


  66. Krazny says:

    James,

    if you are making the connection to between Norway and Bush because of Seixon. Please be aware that norway is the second ultimate liberal paradise right behind sweden. I have an uncle who lives in Norway, (really great uncle) but they don’t like Bush either. Plus I am norwegian, and prefer to not have them slandered.


  67. Antagonist says:

    #65

    I am a moderate, I believe in living within my means, I believe that laws should be enforced, I go to church, and believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit. I love my wife and my family. I work hard, I pay my taxes, and my bills. I donate money to charity, and I try not to hurt my neighbors.

    Anything in there you don’t agree with antagonist?

    NOPE!

    But I do have somewhat of an issue with this comment…

    Children do emulate their parents. It is called learned behavior. You set the role model for your children every day in how you conduct yourself.

    Sometimes children turn out the way they are in spite of their parents. I’ve heard many instances where the same set of parents raised a couple of kids, and one turned out great, and one not so great. It’s too easy to blame the parents for everything their kids are doing wrong. Granted, there seems to be a serious lack of parenting these days, but sometimes a kid will start going their own way, and all of a parents best efforts be lost on them.


  68. Antagonist says:

    #67

    Well it’s nice to see you’ve found an outlet for your unheathy obsession—I shudder to think what kind of people frequent your site though. You don’t happen to have a bunker somewhere and stockpiles of ammo do you?


  69. Krazny says:


    But I do have somewhat of an issue with this comment…

    Children do emulate their parents. It is called learned behavior. You set the role model for your children every day in how you conduct yourself.

    Comment by Antagonist — May 9, 2006 @ 4:11 pm

    I would suggest you do some reading on child psychology and developement then, or speak with a psychologist who specializes in children and adolescents.


  70. Spudge_Boy says:

    Pure crap…You probably don’t even have any daughters, or they’re not teenagers yet.
    The teen years are difficult years for kids. if your daughters were teenagers you would know this.

    My 17 year old will be 18 on August 19. She has never been nor has ever had any of the problems associated with bad parenting. You need to learn how to be a good parent and you wouldn’t have that problem.

    My daughter would have nothing to do with other teens that weren’t raised the way they should have been. Your son doesn’t deserve the time of day from my daughter.

    The other one isn’t old enough, so I would shoot your son for getting near her.


  71. james risser says:

    #68

    my apologies. as you identified, i was trying to not mention that person’s name and assumed that everyone here would understand that… it is my short-handed way to stress that, as with the person you mention, there is a serious disconnect between reality and the common use of words by that individual.


  72. Krazny says:

    LOL thanks for clearing that up James.


  73. Spudge_Boy says:

    You don’t happen to have a bunker somewhere and stockpiles of ammo do you?

    Hey dipshit, it is the conservative that are scared of everything. It is the conservatives that form groups like the FReemna in Montanna. Is the consevatives that are chicken hawks and like to play with their guns all the time. Stop projecting.


  74. james risser says:

    #70

    i do not have a significant amount of traffic and it doesn’t particularly matter to me; the site is there so that i may keep track of the several constitutional and statutory violations of your president…

    i keep it public so that people can see the latest violations of this miscreant and hope to enlighten anyone who would like to visit the opportunity to track his crimes, his murderous path…

    as for the personal attack, i have no guns and don’t live a bunker, thanks so much for asking. and, if you think living under the most lawless administration in american history and noting it as an ‘obsession’ than, yes, i am ‘obsessed’ with the existence of the re-incarnation of hitler on american soil…

    have a nice day!


  75. Spudge_Boy says:

    WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM JUDAS

    Actually, we have learned recently that Judas was not a evil person, he was doing God’s work. Somebody had to turn Jesus in, so he could be crucified and then be resurrected.


  76. Krazny says:

    Can someone get Santo a tinfoil hat, I think the alien microwaves are getting to him.


  77. JPark says:

    I smell flip-flopping from the trolls. When Roberts and Alito were nominated they were yelling “The ABA gave them their highest rating!!!”. Now those ratings don’t mean anything or are a liberal plot? Please develop some consistency folks.


  78. Progressaurus Rex says:

    i can’t imagine dog-on-mAntagonist’s children being anything but ill-informed, assholes like their father. that is, if they act anything like he does here.

    pure backwash children.


  79. WaltTheMan says:

    My mom and her older sister both baby-sat the Kennedy brats in Brookline., MA. Joe was off to college or prep (Hence out of the picture), Bobby a pest, John, diplomatic and Teddy hid in the corner. Neither had any comments on the girls other then that they tended to retire to their rooms and read or fanaticize.


  80. Arne Langsetmo says:

    Oh, but of course he’s qualified. He’s undoubtedly Federalist Society….

    Cheers,


  81. Antagonist says:

    Kranzy and Spudge_Boy

    You guys are getting ridiculous. In an earlier comment I was likening one of Spudges comments to that of a stereotypical teenage girl. I decided to mention my daughters in order to give my response some credibility, and you guys are now off to the races—creating your own reality about my so-called lack of parenting. To echo Spudges words—You don’t know anything about me or my kids. My wife and I have a great marriage, and our kids are well behaved and well adjusted. The difficulty that I’ve been refering to with the teen years has to do with their hormones and their emotions—not unacceptable behavior as you so wrongly assume. The difficulty is for them. They’re the ones with the changing bodies, the growing independence, and the important decisions to make about thier friends and their future. Much has been written about this subject, and any fair-minded person knows these things. By the way—great editing job in #71 Kranzy. You parsed my comments in #69 in order to completely miss my point. I was not disagreeing with your comment— {Children do emulate their parents. It is called learned behavior. You set the role model for your children every day in how you conduct yourself}—I was rejecting the notion that you have a guranteed outcome with your children.


  82. Antagonist says:

    #77

    I think it’s a pretty safe bet that Bush is NOT the reincarnation of Hitler. I know it’s getting to be an increasingly popular thing to say for you guys out on the fringe, but it simply isn’t true. Why would you want to spend so much time and energy on something that is false? Bush will be gone in two years—relax!


  83. progressive and proud says:

  84. progressive and proud says:

    BushCo. can only relate to low IQ thugs like himself. Birds of a feather…


  85. big papa says:

    their shit doesn’t stink…

    Comment by Antagonist #50

    No Antichrist,

    …it’s just that the stench of you braindead (morally decaying) “conservative” inbred Bushite TRAITORS and money grubbing who*es…

    …is so overpowering…

    …we progressives really CAN”T smell our own sh*t…

    …especially when cretins like YOU are in the vicinity…



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