President Bush, attacking war critics
By on May 9th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
President Bush, attacking war critics
during the 2004 presidential campaign: “See, we don’t create enemies and terrorists by fighting back. We defeat the terrorists by fighting back.” Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli, the U.S. commander in charge of day-to-day military operations in Iraq, from today’s Los Angeles Times: “We have to understand that the way we treat Iraqis has a direct effect on the number of insurgents that we are fighting. For every one that I kill, I create almost 10 more.” (HT: Salon’s War Room)
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That dude is plagerizing me. I have been saying from the begining that you create more insurgents by bombing innocent people than you do by occupying a country.
It is nice to hear a “commander on the ground” say it.
May 9th, 2006 at 2:07 pmDuh. Incurious George is clueless and unteachable.
May 9th, 2006 at 2:09 pmBasic. Common. Sense.
May 9th, 2006 at 2:11 pmBush doesn’t tend to see beyond the “Yeehaww lets kill some aaAAAAAA rabs”
May 9th, 2006 at 2:11 pmUnless of course, that is what they are trying to do,”create more” Because I don’t think you could do a much better job of it.
May 9th, 2006 at 2:18 pm#2: “Incurious George is clueless and unteachable.” – - If he’s unteachable, he must be impeachable.
May 9th, 2006 at 2:34 pmUnless of course, that is what they are trying to do,â€create moreâ€
May 9th, 2006 at 2:42 pm- another part of the plan for a never-ending war, profits for the “industrial military complex”
just announced on al franken’s show
May 9th, 2006 at 2:53 pma whole hour of RICHARD PERLE on thursday
stream it online if you have to
For every one that I kill, I create almost 10 more. AT LEAST plus another 100 family members that hate you and also 2000 extra people world wide who hate youSo Violence only breeds violence
I knew this at the age of 5 from my Mum
May 9th, 2006 at 3:03 pmChiarelli, however, assured the classroom full of camouflage-clad troops that he was not changing the rules of engagement and did not want them to back down from insurgents. “You must maintain an offensive mind-set. Don’t pull any punches,” he told the group about to be deployed to several forts along Iraq’s border, where it would assist in training the Iraqi border patrol.
Too bad, amid reports that insurgents and AQ have no support from the Iraqis, this report actually proves that the pussin’ out and retreat policy promoted by libs is not shared by Chiarelli.
May 9th, 2006 at 3:28 pmSince Bush keeps saying that he listens to his “commanders on the ground” and not people in Washington to make decisions about the war, maybe this time the message will get through…probably not.
Who wants to bet that Lt. Gen. Chiarelli’s rotation in Iraq will be up pretty soon?
May 9th, 2006 at 3:31 pmAt the beginning of the 20th century 90% of casualties were soldiers. As of the first Gulf War, 90% of the casualties were cvivilian. When I look at this I can see no ethical basis for war. It is immoral the way it is conducted. Yes, we may have very good reasons for going to war, but the ends don’t justify the means. We should do everything possible to avoid war. No one wins anymore. It is time for us to evolve and this means impeaching Bush and Co. and putting some adults in the places of power in this country.
May 9th, 2006 at 3:35 pmAt the beginning of the 20th century 90% of casualties were soldiers. As of the first Gulf War, 90% of the casualties were cvivilian. When I look at this I can see no ethical basis for war. It is immoral the way it is conducted. Yes, we may have very good reasons for going to war, but the ends don’t justify the means. We should do everything possible to avoid war. No one wins anymore. It is time for us to evolve and this means impeaching Bush and Co. and putting some adults in the places of power in this country.
You must be crazy to think that 90% of war deaths were soldiers pre-Gulf War. You’ve got your statistics backwards and that is precisely why we spend SO much money on precise, advanced weaponry so that we minimize civillian deaths and maximize target neutralization.
May 9th, 2006 at 4:01 pm#13 Do you really think there are less civilian deaths now? Iraq was an great opportunity to TEST your precise, advanced weaponry. Civilian deaths in Iraq are in the 10’s out thousands. Were those simply accidents? “We don’t do body counts”
May 9th, 2006 at 4:09 pm14>
Make no mistake–In no way am I justifying this war or any of our actions in Iraq. If you think civillian deaths due to the US military approach anywhere near WWII or Vietnam civilian deaths by the US military, you are crazy.
Do I think the deaths caused by our military actions in Iraq are improper and unjustified? Absolutely. I merely want to point out false statistics and numbers anywhere they are thrown about.
May 9th, 2006 at 4:24 pm15. Thank you for clarifying.
May 9th, 2006 at 4:32 pm#6 – If he’s unteachable, he must be impeachable.
Comment by Badmoodman
You’re channeling Johnnie Cochran.
May 9th, 2006 at 4:34 pm:-D
This just in from Captain Obvious:
well….DUH!
May 9th, 2006 at 4:44 pm“The lunatic neocon war plan for Iran is doomed to failure, just as their Iraq adventure was,†Tarpley concluded. “If attacked, there is every indication Iran would cut the world oil aorta at the Straits of Hormuz, fire off missiles at Israel and other targets, and unleash Iraqi Shiites and Iranian volunteers around Basra. The position of the US and especially the UK forces there would soon become extraordinarily critical. If Russians and Chinese were killed in the raids, the stage would be set for larger confrontation. All of this would guarantee endless war and economic ruin for the US and the dollar. Why not avoid this incalculable folly by calling right now for a new Bretton Woods international monetary conference, which would be welcomed by the world community as a whole?â€
May 9th, 2006 at 5:11 pmThese Iraqi men, women and children have go to quit standing in the path of our precise weapons, our super secret heat seeking civilian dodging missiles.
Hundreds of Iraqis have been killed by our “precision weapons”. Hundreds more are gunned down just for the hell of it. They are used for target practice by our disgruntled amurkan soldiers. Bet on it!
May 9th, 2006 at 5:19 pm2428 gone up 6 since yesterday how many more losses can Bush handle
May 9th, 2006 at 5:40 pmLollerskates, I think you misread Pagan American’s post: At the beginning of the 20th century… I don’t think WWII and Vietnam were to be considered in the statement.
May 9th, 2006 at 5:47 pm#22 – Lily,
May 9th, 2006 at 8:50 pmI was thinking the same thing. WWI was fought in the trenches, the Civil war in the woods and fields, except for Sherman’s rampage. Iraq and Nam are where the targets of interest were civvies on the ground. WWII was another conflict where civvies were taken out (in air raids), but Adolph started that mess and the Allies followed suit (not to say that the Allies were innocents).
President Numbnutz Attacks 3/4 of America for being Anti-war?
Way to go George, you are rally helping the neo-Cons get re-elected.
Just wanted to say thanks Presidense numb nutz
May 9th, 2006 at 10:58 pm#3 HERE HERE
May 10th, 2006 at 10:17 am