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CIA-Director Nominee Gen. Michael Hayden

By Amanda Terkel on May 10th, 2006 at 10:57 am

CIA-Director Nominee Gen. Michael Hayden

will have to be confirmed by both the Intelligence and the Armed Services committees. ABC News’s Z. Byron Wolf: “A four-star general cannot be reassigned without the say-so of the Armed Services Committee. So, President Bush has essentially nominated Hayden to two posts. One as CIA Director and the other as a reassigned four-star general.”

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lib4 says:

Good luck with that one Georgie…or are you gonna pull a John Bolton and give GENERAL “Mike” Hayden a RECESS APPOINTMENT……

My money is on the recess appointment…….
May 10th, 2006 at 11:10 am
Zookeeper says:

#1 – It looks like a “recess appointment” would be difficult since he needs the approval of the Armed Forces Committee. Heh. This is going to be good.
May 10th, 2006 at 11:13 am
darknyte7 says:

I think the White House will withdraw this nomination by the end of the week.
May 10th, 2006 at 11:14 am
Marie says:

So when did legalities stand in the way of Bush’s will?
May 10th, 2006 at 11:15 am
Marie says:

Speaking of interim appointments — when does Bolton’s reign at the UN end?
May 10th, 2006 at 11:17 am
Christy2 says:

Do you really not get why Rummy has not ’spent’ 60% of the monies…?

Probably because it is already gone and if they tried to ’spend it’ their books would fall apart.
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Follow the Money Not Rummy. You will come back to him and the two trillion he announced was missing on September Tenth 2001, 12 hours before we were attacked, YOU WILL FIND THAT TOO.

And when you do, you will find out the cause of simply EVERYTHING else.
May 10th, 2006 at 11:17 am
Hardy Haberman says:

This is part of Bush’s plan to consolidate his grip on power. Make no mistake, his seeding of loyal followers in key posts is to facillitate his move toward absolute control of the government.
May 10th, 2006 at 11:20 am
Christy2 says:

They are stealing all that money and blowing up the evidence.

Is is damn hard to read the clues when there is blood all over everything.

WARNING…. TO ASK WHAT MISSING TWO TRILLION DOLLARS YOU MUST WILLINGLY ACCEPT THE OFT REFERRED TOO ‘PRE NINE ELEVEN MINDSET’ AND SIMPLY REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAW AND HEARD ON THE EVENING OF SEPTEMBER TENTH.

It was in the news papers the next morning, described as ‘possibly the largest theft in history’.

Then we were attacked barely before anyone could really wake up. The two trillion is still ‘missing’.
May 10th, 2006 at 11:27 am
Flamethrower says:

what a moran.
May 10th, 2006 at 11:36 am
Dr Benway says:

Ok Christy2, I’ll bite.

Would you be so kind as to provide some citations regarding a missing $2 trillion. Let’s start with references to mainstream media reports. I get the feeling there are ample sites that have spend much time exploring this issue. But let’s not start there. Best to start with facts we all might be able to agree on.

P.S. Your name is a dead link.
May 10th, 2006 at 11:39 am
Jay Randal says:

The Senate must inform the Bush Regime that General Hayden is rejected to replace Porter Goss as Director of the CIA! We the American people will NOT stand for illegal wiretapping of everyone un the United States! If the government is so paranoid of its citizenry, then perhaps those in the government are themselves the real enemy?!
May 10th, 2006 at 11:41 am
thot's says:

in a dicatorship anything the dicator wants he gets.
May 10th, 2006 at 11:47 am
G.W.SuperChrist says:

# 10 – I agree Doc – there has been so much written (still not nearly enough though) about the 9 billion missing in Iraq… you would think that someone would have mentioned the 2 trillion in one of these 9 Billion articles.

Anything yet Christy2?
May 10th, 2006 at 11:52 am
Christy2 says:

The GAO themselves released a report that outlined it.

Murtha even got nailed with it and denied it was ‘trillions, they must have meant BILLIONS’

But yes I will go get those links now, but have company and am multitasking my arse off.
May 10th, 2006 at 11:55 am
Christy2 says:

Try this one to get started

I may be in and out.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/620276/posts
May 10th, 2006 at 11:57 am
Christy2 says:

PS.

Im not saying Free Republic is acurate in all things but its the first link I got on yahoo that seemed mostly right.

Not endorsing the link but the info can be googled.

I myself remember seeing the announcement Rummy made that night… I forgot about it until years later when I suddenly started screaming at my TV cause bush was talking , I started screaming ‘Pre nine eleven mindset, Pre911 thinking! What in the hell does that actually mean…?!!”

I realized I could not remember September 10th. What was I doing, what was I thinking, what did I eat that night for dinner?

As soon as I googled the date and saw it I remembered seeing it myself that night. He announced it late in the evening after the news cycle had slowed for the night.

I cried like a baby as soon as I realized what I had forgotten. I really did. I broke down weeping.

Two trillion dollars. Who would you kill to hide you took it?

Who would you lie too for it?
May 10th, 2006 at 12:03 pm
james risser says:

yes, this story was on cbs–i want to say 60 minutes, but, i am not certain–

here is a link to a cbs story…i think 60 minutes did a full report on it…still looking.

oh, for those believing cbs is an evil left-wing propaganda network, here is the link to the war-criminal’s site with the original quote….

the war-criminal says:

All this costs money. It costs more than we have. It demands agility — more than today’s bureaucracy allows. And that means we must recognize another transformation: the revolution in management, technology and business practices. Successful modern businesses are leaner and less hierarchical than ever before. They reward innovation and they share information. They have to be nimble in the face of rapid change or they die. Business enterprises die if they fail to adapt, and the fact that they can fail and die is what provides the incentive to survive. But governments can’t die, so we need to find other incentives for bureaucracy to adapt and improve.

The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it’s stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.

as one of these animals said, ‘democracy is hard work…’

there was also a rumour going around, and again i do not have a cite, but it claims that two trillion was transferred from the new york federal reserve to iraq, but, that rumour has it as happening during the illegal occupation of iraq and not on 9.10…
May 10th, 2006 at 12:48 pm
G.W.SuperChrist says:

Christy2 – I am sorry I doubted you!

I found rummy’s speach on the DOD website.

Here it is strait from the horses ass… I mean mouth.

“The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.”
May 10th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
G.W.SuperChrist says:

james risser – beat me to it… good job man!
May 10th, 2006 at 12:55 pm
james risser says:

in an ironically named hearing titled ‘financing the insurgency’ we get a peak at the rumoured ‘loss’ of two-trillion from the FRBNY…

3. Assisting Iraq’s Establishment of an Effective Payment System

At present, nearly all payments in Iraq are made in cash; dollars for bigger-ticket (imported) items and real estate transactions, and dinars for other payments. For example, the U.S. military pays its contractors in U.S. dollars, and almost all Iraqi salaries, including the salaries of Iraq government employees, are also paid in cash dollars. Reliance on currency for transactions not only leads to very large inefficiencies in terms of the operation of the financial system; it also carries significant risks with respect to insurgency financing. Since Iraq and its neighboring countries are flooded with U.S. dollars, insurgents can move funds into the country by cash courier without raising attention. Insurgency flows blend into the movement of legitimate funds.

The Department of the Treasury has been engaged in a major effort to help develop a modern payment system for Iraq that follows international best practices.

The Iraq Payment System, as the project is called, is being coordinated by Raleigh Tozer, Senior Vice President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and involves various parties, including the Central Bank of Iraq, Iraqi Telephone and Post Company, the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, the IMF, and the World Bank, as well as the Department of the Treasury. Once implemented, the Iraq Payment System will be able to process instantaneous, electronic large value payments (real time gross settlements (RTGS) and smaller recurring salary and other payments (automated clearing house (ACH)). The system will be internal to Iraq, but will be capable of linking to international payment systems to make or receive payments from outside Iraq.

The Iraq Payment System should begin providing widespread benefits shortly after its implementation. The targeted date for implementing RTGS is January 2006, with ACH a month later, though delays are possible. The Kurdish region has not participated in preparations for the new payment system; however, Kurdish officials have recently expressed interest in taking part.

Establishing a modern payments system could significantly help combat the use of cash couriers by insurgents. Moving from a largely cash economy to a functioning banking and payment system will make it easier to monitor and control financial flows, thereby improving the ability of U.S. and Iraqi financial and law enforcement officials to detect the movement of insurgency funds into and within Iraq.

July 28, 2005 Thursday
COMMITTEE: HOUSE ARMED SERVICES
SUBCOMMITTEE: TERRORISM, UNCONVENTIONAL THREATS AND CAPABILITIES
HEADLINE: FINANCING THE IRAQI INSURGENCY
TESTIMONY-BY: DANIEL L. GLASER, ACTING ASSISTANT SECRETARY
AFFILIATION: U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

____________________

the natural question is to ask why someone with more gravitas than the four or five of us writing on this thread have not pursued this matter is beyond my comprehension…
May 10th, 2006 at 1:00 pm
Marie says:

the natural question is to ask why someone with more gravitas than the four or five of us writing on this thread have not pursued this matter is beyond my comprehensionâ€¦

Comment by james risser â€” May 10, 2006 @ 1:00 pm

That’s the “liberal” press doing its job catapaulting the propaganda.
May 10th, 2006 at 1:15 pm
Zookeeper says:

#18 – It’s cute how Rummy slipped in the thing about the missing trillions right in the middle. F*cking wanker. Is this “pre 9/11″ thinking?
May 10th, 2006 at 1:18 pm
G.W.SuperChrist says:

the natural question is to ask why someone with more gravitas than the four or five of us writing on this thread have not pursued this matter is beyond my comprehensionâ€¦

Comment by james risser â€” May 10, 2006 @ 1:00 pm

I agree!!!
May 10th, 2006 at 1:36 pm
Dr Benway says:

Thanks for the clarification on the issue of $2.3 trillion.

First, based on the primary source you cite (Rumsfeld), the credibility of the story is lacking. He is/was motivated by his own goals to make such claims. Those goals being to revamp the DoD, and everybody’s favorite attack against the DoD is its wastefulness.

Secondly, there is a world of difference between stealing $2.3 trillion and that amount of money not being able to be accounted for. And it sounds like the claim Rumsfeld was making was one of lack of accountability.

I recall seeing discussed on Frontline once that all departments are required to balance their books once a year. This is a requirement from Congress to the Executive branch. At first, DoD tried but had to ask Congress for an extension. The extension turned into an exemption. At this point, the exemption has been written in law and the DoD is no longer required to even try and balance its books.

So, sadly, the Sec of Def claim that $2.3T has fallen through the cracks is not surprising to me. I have grown up in the DC area, worked with the DoD and am just used to such waste and unaccountability. I think it should be changed, but we have seen how good a a job the Neocons have done.
May 10th, 2006 at 1:36 pm
Christy2 says:

Hey I just had a wierd thought.

Let us say for a moment I stole 2 trillion from the pentagon.

Now, in order to hide it I would need a person almost EXACTLY like Abramoff… would I not?

Now see that would make sense that money was flowing both ways through him.
May 10th, 2006 at 1:55 pm
james risser says:

#25

money gets laundered through dubai…abramoff can’t handle that amount…

ask carlyle group. i would bet one of my testicles that most if not all the 2.3 went through dubai to carlyle and to other of their billions of dollars of investments in boeing, et al.
May 10th, 2006 at 4:10 pm
snookered says:

Perhaps I’ve missed something? Isn’t it rather simple and appropriate to ask the general to resign his commission? Why does he need to be a military man to run the CIA?
May 10th, 2006 at 5:16 pm
Marty Didier says:

#26… The Tribune today’s article Potential Supreme Court nominee resigns from bench suggests that Boeing Co is preparing for a show-down!

This missing couple trillion is one situation out of many that will certainly surface once this one hits the fan. It appears the corrupt corporations are getting ready for what’s anticipated up ahead. Although this is about Military contracts, in the Chicago area, many huge corporations are also involved and that’s been quiet too.

Dubai is for sure the World’s Biggest Laundromat, however a hiding a few trillion is a lot to hide!
May 10th, 2006 at 5:21 pm
james risser says:

#28

err, do you want to reconsider that answer?

The UAE has pumped at least half a trillion dirhams into infrastructure and other projects over the past 10 years to maintain growth and turn gross domestic product into one of the highest economies in the Middle East, official figures showed. The gross fixed capital formation, which includes public and private investment in development, crossed that figure this year, and Abu Dhabi and Dubai emerged as the key investors, pumping around 83 per cent of the total capital, the Planning Ministry said. Between 1993 and 2001, total investments stood at around Dh441.7 billion and with an estimated Dh61.8 billion pumped this year, the cumulative gross fixed capital formation is set to climb to Dh503.3 billion (US$137.1 billion).

Abu Dhabi, the main oil producer in the UAE, alone invested Dh279.3 billion (US$76.1 billion), nearly half the total capital, while Dubai pumped around 141.1 billion (US$38.4 billion), accounting for more than 28 per cent of the overall investments.

Capital formation stood at around Dh45.2 billion (US$12.3 billion) in Sharjah, Dh12.2 billion (US$3.3 billion) in Ras Al Khaimah, Dh10.3 billion (US$2.8 billion) in Ajman, Dh8.9 billion (US$2.4 billion) in Fujairah and around Dh3.5 billion (US$953 million) in Umm al-Qaiwain.

Such massive investments pushed the country’s GDP by nearly 87 per cent, from around Dh137 billion (US$37.3 billion) to Dh249.5 billion (US$67.8 billion) in 2001 and a projected US$70 billion in 2002, according to the Ministry’s 2002 report.

The figures showed the construction sector was the main beneficiary given its high investment yield, receiving a total Dh221 billion (US$60.2 billion) between 1993 and 2002.

they can wash up that 2.3 before lunch!
May 10th, 2006 at 6:15 pm
Marty Didier says:

29# I wasn’t that aware of the abilities that Duai had when discussing Trillions. But as you say, it appears that if your detail is correct, then Dubai has a huge appetite for laundering, relatively speaking.

I felt it was interesting regarding the Tribunes article then reading speculations about Boeing. Sometimes there aren’t any coincidents. I’m sure those involved are trying to stay ahead especially if they know they have done wrong. Seems guilt has always been a reliable motivating factor in behavior.

I knew that Mandarin Oriental Group is a Laundromat but wasn’t that up on Dubai. I wasn’t also expecting to find much information on them either. Please let me know if it’s available and where to find it if you can.
May 10th, 2006 at 9:36 pm
Wretched Refuse says:

Hey guys watch C-Span for yourself:
“Representative Cynthia McKinney Grills Rumsfeld On Dyncorp Sex Rings, Missing Pentagon Trillions & 9/11 Wargames”
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/240305mckinneygrills.htm
May 10th, 2006 at 11:47 pm
Cyra Brown says:

#5- Marie, I believe his time is up (ends on the day) when the newly-elected Congressmembers are sworn in, Jan.? 07. Thank goodness!!
May 11th, 2006 at 4:40 am
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Another ‘fake-out appointee? Keep everyone focused on this person, while they wait for the most opportune (for them) moment to put up the one they REALLY want, like the H.Myers,(sp?) Sam Alito swap? Otherwise, somebody boo-booed. Ooops. We shall see…
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