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Much bigger than the Dukestir.

By Payson Schwin on May 10th, 2006 at 12:24 pm

Much bigger than the Dukestir.

Rick Gwin, the Pentagon’s special agent in charge of the Cunningham investigation, on the scandal’s reach: “This is much bigger and wider than just Randy ‘Duke’ Cunningham. All that has just not come out yet, but it won’t be much longer and then you will know just how widespread this is.”



187 Responses to “Much bigger than the Dukestir.”

  1. twolf1 says:

    Did Chimpy go to a party?


  2. War4Sale says:

    Plenty of room for all of the K Street crooks in federal prison! The more, the merrier!


  3. Krazny says:

    woot, maybe I should get a six pack and watch the daily show tonight. I hope this blows up like a runway hurricane. Keeps getting bigger and bigger until it hits landfall. We will see who is left standing after Hurricane Duke-stir


  4. Badmoodman says:

    How about waiting for the criminal floodgates to open say, oh, around early October this year?


  5. bushllit says:

    #1…Bush playing poker, please…i would give anything to get in on that game, i would pay to see him try to bluff…Cheney, now there is an expressionless poker face…I would be more worried about Dick stabbing me (or shooting me in the face) than what he had in his hand!


  6. big papa says:

    Was Jeff Gannon there (at the Watergate)?

    …I can’t wait for the Brokeback pictorial to come out…

    …I just hope L’il Dick wasn’t wearing Speedos


  7. rf says:

    Maybe they should send their best to torture the Dukestir-


  8. Sofia says:

    We’re ready! Bring ‘em on!


  9. Jules says:

    Why should Duke talk. After the 2006 elections Bush is going to pardon Duke for keeping his mouth shut!


  10. dlet says:

    #7
    Its not torture if not organ failure happens.
    Wow. This is like watching a NASCAR race. The biggest crash is usually the first. I thought it would be Scooter but this sounds pretty extensive.


  11. The Left Nut Hangs Lower says:

    I’d be real surprised if this extended into the executive office.
    Then again, I wouldn’t be surprised, nah, even pictures of the whole charade would just make me nod my head and move on with my life.
    They’re murderous criminals with a serious fetish management problem.
    Let them self-destruct.


  12. JRock says:

    Man this is fustrating, BUT DAMMITT something HAS to GIVE!!!


  13. Optimist says:

    Since when did the pentagon take the lead in criminal investigations?


  14. Marie says:

  15. Marley, Brooklyn, NY says:

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  16. dlet says:

    #13
    Good point. In the article it says he is the Pentagon’s Top Investigator. I would think the DOJ is “leading” this but since a lot of the investigation centers on the DOD I am sure they have someone in charge of coordinating the information gathering in the Pentagon.


  17. Hardy Haberman says:

    I sincerely believe this investigation along with the Abramoff scandal will be the biggest in US history. These criminals have infiltrated every branch of government and it might just be impossible to prosicute them unless we have a regiem change.


  18. Martin says:

    I like how it all comes back to the watergate hotel… again. That place is like a lightning rod and these guys just keep stroking it.


  19. drtomaso says:

    I could be wrong, but in order to receive a presidential pardon, you have to have been convicted, right? I think someone low on the totem pole will talk- not everyone can be hoping for a pardon. Would it suprise anyone if it turns out the FBI was camped out in the suite across the hall in the Watergate, recording the comings and goings of all involved? They will get someone who can talk.

    I just hope this all serves as a warning to the American people. This party, the Republican party, does not have your best interests at heart. If you give them power, they will get drunk on it, and then the next thing you know, they’re being flown about the globe by casino owners, blown by hookers paid for by defense contractors, and enjoying lavish vacations from drug compay czars, all in exchange for voting against programs that help *you*.

    I remember the 90s- does anyone remember any democrats having contributor-organized hooker parties? I don’t. The worst we had under the democrats was two consenting adults not married to each other playing hide the cigar. The worst you can say about that one is that one of the parties lied about it when caught. No one died as a result. There was no tit-for-tat against the interests of the American people. Just two people who worked together deciding to get it on.


  20. Jules says:

    Well Marley, the only thing left to say is AMEN!


  21. Jules says:

    The individuals pardoned during Iran-gate were not convicted. Remember Casper?


  22. foxbot says:

    #5 If you find yourself playing poker with Cheney, watch if he shoots the player to his left in the face. That’s his “tell.”


  23. Marley, Brooklyn, NY says:

    You said it Jules… there’s nothing left to say. Let’s just wait for justice tp prevail. It will.

    #19
    The worst we had under the democrats was two consenting adults not married to each other playing hide the cigar.

    I have not laughed like this since… Bush chocked on a Pretzel Thanks that was great!


  24. Godfry Daniel says:

    Abatross! Albatross!


  25. Drew Mackenzie says:

    I knew it was a bad idea to try and pick on the CIA.


  26. Jay Randal says:

    Abramoff is small time potatoes compared to Brent Wilkes who bribed Cunningham and set-up the poker/hooker parties for CIA personnel and GOP Representatives! Expect at least 6 members of the GOP to fall, but could be as many as 15?!


  27. twolf1 says:

    #5 – you’d have to sit with your back to the corner with that crowd.


  28. Marty Didier says:

    Wait, there are OTHER areas that still haven’t surfaced. They too, are equally as insane, plus this “criminal system” extends outside of the US. There are many more insane situations out there also.

    Personally, I view these situations as human behavior relationships, since they better define “why” the “out of control” behavior exists. In your personal life, most people know others trapped in some type of “insanity” and for some reason, they just can’t get out of it. Everything about them happens to incubate more insanity no matter what they do. There’s usually a good reason for this. For me, applying behavior principles makes sense and easily explains our situation because our system is “out of control” supported by “out of control” and with “no effective controls” on spending. For them, it’s as if they are managing a candy store and everyone one of them have a huge sweet tooth. We really need to be “results oriented” which is the opposite of what we have now because this is the game they play on us.

    However, sex, scandals and Indictments are always a great sell, but they are only window dressing to what lays underneath. From being in a family for more than 26 years who’s part of this, I’ll tell you that you haven’t seen ANYTHING YET! Although, what is surfacing is very shocking, considering who is involved, this is another example of other areas yet to surface.

    Dukestir isn’t cooperating probably because he knows they would squash him like a bug faster than you could flick your finger. Being already so huge and there is more in front of us and other bigger crimes underneath suggests that to “manage” this mammoth sized criminal system requires something extra-ordinary to “Police it”!

    Dukestir’s silence, is by itself is also an admission that something bigger lays underneath. I expect my ex-in-law’s wouldn’t be any different. Since I know them well, I’ll say that they are totally scared with what might happen to them for talking. I personally was threatened in 1996, while Bush was Governor of Texas, to make me realize that what was happening in Texas would happen to me if I talked. The reason why they are scared confirms what I’ve been saying all along that there are worse crimes this group is responsible for. It’s a well known fact within the whole criminal organization, as they rule by fear! They are well linked with communication that spreads around their evil doing, so to continue the fear. That adds to their intention to run continued Phsy-Ops which strengthens their hold through fear. I’ll end this post with explaining that my ex-wife’s family after joining this group started to become seriously and extremely paranoid so it’s obvious to me why Dukestir isn’t talking.


  29. Innocent Bystander says:

    There’s so much smoke in the room, I can’t see the herd of elephants who are obviously in a state of panic….

    This is just an incredibly perfect storm. The Right is fracturing over illegal immigration while the Plame indictments are about to consume Karl. Add the whole Duke-stir/Goss/Foggo/Ney/Jackson orgy of corruption…..if there is a god, he sure has an impeccable sense of timing.


  30. Sharon Cox says:

    Bravo Marley………You covered it all………Blessings


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    #29, I couldn’t agree with you more!

    It’s amuzing of course. But certainly everyone needs to be on the look out for heavy handed tactics with Nazi’s popping out of hats. This isn’t a group who takes lightly to finding themselves in trouble especially when cornered and at that time, would be expected to use drastic measures. They”ve done it in the past and there are more than a few “setups” sitting out there, waiting to be used.


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