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Matthews on Rove Indictment: ‘It Could Be Today’

MSNBC’s Chris Matthews appeared was on Don Imus’ show this morning and said that Karl Rove could be indicted today.

Transcript:

MATTHEWS: If, however, something happens with Karl Rove, we’re going to go to general quarters around here.

IMUS: What does that mean?

MATTHEWS: Meaning we will be taping probably on Saturday or late night because everything will change. Last time, when he picked up Scooter, when he nailed him 30 years of charges, that happened on 1:00 on a Friday. So we don’t know when it might happen, if it’s going happen.

IMUS: Are we expecting something with Karl Rove today?

MATTHEWS: Well, it could be today. It could be next week. Everybody is buzzing about when or if. It’s a big if, big when. There is a lot of talk because he is still being interviewing by the special prosecutor. He keeps being hauled before the grand jury. So something is going on here with the special prosecutor. We don’t know whether he is going to clear him or nail him.

Last night, Matthews reported that the grand jury is meeting today. Raw Story reports that networks are staking out the courthouse.



125 Responses to “Matthews on Rove Indictment: ‘It Could Be Today’”

  1. kurt says:

    Down for the count!


  2. GG says:

    I’ll believe it when I see it.
    and
    Don Imus looks like a Muppet.


  3. G.W.SuperChrist says:

    If it happens I will celebrate… not a second before.


  4. Curlew says:

    I dont care it its today, next friday or July 4…all i want is that pompous ass indicted. Actually the longer this drags out and the closer to election day the indictment comes, the more impact it should have. Remember we live in a land of sheeple who generally have the attention span of a paramecium. If Rove is indicted today, we can be assurred that the majority will have it in the ‘ho-hum’ category by election day.


  5. Ron says:

    Is Don Imus is one for the books. So is Karl Rove.


  6. seesdifferent says:

    a couple of real Walter Cronkites


  7. Flamethrower says:

    Thank you #6. Tweety will say anything to get his fat face on Imus.


  8. squegeeboo says:

    Hey TP,

    “MSNBC’s Chris Matthews appeared was on Don Imus’ show this morning and said that Karl Rove could be indicted today.”

    When even I notice the grammer screw up it might be worth fixing.

    “Well, it could be today. It could be next week”
    It could be next month, I think even if Fitz has what he needs to indite him he’s gonna keep on pushing it off to keep the story up front.


  9. Punchy says:

    Well, it could be today. It could be next week.

    ‘Nuff said. Wake me in September when Fitz actually indicts him.


  10. The Muse says:

    calls for a reprise of the October surprise that wasn’t

    Fitzgerald Issues Frog-Marching Guidelines

    Suspense builds, and a prosecutor prepares.

    EWM – (October 18, 2005) In anticipation of imminent activity resulting from his two-year investigation into the White House leaking of undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has issued guidelines to FBI agents outlining the proper techniques to use when “frog marching” suspects.

    It is clear that the ever thorough Fitzgerald does not want any missteps. Due to the historical nature of the upcoming frog marches, and the fact they will be replayed thousands of times on cable news networks, he issued a memorandum on the subject which EWM obtained through a double super-secret source…


  11. Ba'al says:

    I can’t help wondering who has more advanced liver pathology, Hitchens or Imus?


  12. Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying » It’s Beginning To Look A Lot Like Fitzmas says:

    [...] And now the rumors are flying Speculation rising Say that he’s been trying someone else’s wife Somebody at the airport Somebody on the phone Says he’s at the station and he’s coming on the noon Then we get the story a serious breeze And a photograph taken in the hall You don’t have to worry with the previous release Right now, he’s saying nothing at all But in the communique you know he’s gonna come clean Think what he say, say what he mean Maybe on Monday he got something to say Communication Communique Communique   Update: Chris Matthews is beating the Fitzmas drum this morning. fitzmas indictment karl rove patrick fitzgerald   [...]


  13. Zimzone says:

    Tweety & Imus…
    I thought the radical left was supposed to look weird.
    What’s the Imus story?
    He looks like Robert Redford on acid.

    KKKarl, you’re going to be seeing a lot more of
    Tom DeLay soon!


  14. Matt bors says:

    “It could be today”

    Very insightful.


  15. Jay Randal says:

    Nothing is in the works today on Karl Rove! Rove should go to prison, but I doubt he ever will serve any time! Americans would have to stage a revolution to put the Bush Regime away!


  16. Briseadh na Faire says:

    King George still has the power to pardon Rove.


  17. BMc// says:

    White House Memo: For everyone’s convenience, future cabinet meetings will be moved to Jack Abramhoff’s cell.


  18. profmarcus says:

    “If it happens I will celebrate… not a second before.”

    my sentiments exactly… rove is perhaps the most transcendentally evil personage in the entire bushco rogues gallery with the possible exception of dick cheney… he needs to be put out of commission – permanently…

    Visit my blog: And, yes, I DO take it personally


  19. Noam Sane says:

    Imus looks like Margaret Hamilton visiting a dude ranch.


  20. thinkaboutit says:

    squeege, aren’t you the one who didn’t care so much about the gramatical errors you make? Once again you’re a bit hypocritical. How about the content of the message. Doesn’t it concern you that the chief puppeteer may be hog tied?


  21. Steve says:

    I will bet doughnuts to dollars that he’s cleared. It’s a pretty common game Rove plays. He makes it seem like something bad is going to happen then nothing, so they then look good. Remember when the administration projected a 550 billion dollar deficit but it was only in the 400’s? They came out smelling like roses. Same thing with the possible indictment. He leaks to the press that he may get indicted only to be cleared. Makes him look all the more better.


  22. jeffs says:

    Even if W pardons Rove, the damage’ll be done.

    First things first, though.

    Damn, an indictment would be fine.


  23. Kenny says:

    Mathews and Imus? Aren’t they the two reporters that broke Watergate?


  24. trueblue says:

    Fun Fact:
    Don Imus was listed #9 on “100 Least Sexiest Men”
    Osama Bin Laden was #8.
    (I believe) Michael Jackson was #11.

    You Go, Imus!


  25. Kenny says:

    Mathews and Imus? Bert and Ernie are a more credible source.


  26. big papa says:

    Mathews and Imus? Aren’t they the two reporters that broke Watergate?

    Comment by Kenny #23

    Naw Kenny,

    …you’ve got them mixed up…

    …these two clods (Matthews and Imus)…

    …broke the story about…

    …”Deep Throat” the movie…


  27. Kenny says:

    And better looking


  28. squegeeboo says:

    thinkaboutit
    “squeege, aren’t you the one who didn’t care so much about the gramatical errors you make?”

    I’m just a comments poster, not the people running the blog, they should keep to a higher level of professionalism when it comes to things like grammer/spelling.

    “How about the content of the message. Doesn’t it concern you that the chief puppeteer may be hog tied?”
    You mean the same message that we’ve been hearing for the past year? How many times now have you read/heard/seen Rove days from being indited? At this point it’s like the boy who cried wolf to me.


  29. Flying Spaghetti Monster says:

    Why do you suppose that Duke Cunningham isn’t talking? My guess is that if he did spill his guts, we’d learn things that we don’t even suspect, and that the promise of a presidential pardon has already been made. “Just hang in there, Duke! We’ll have you out in January ‘09!”


  30. dlet says:

    MATTHEWS: Well, it could be today. It could be next week. Everybody is buzzing about when or if. It’s a big if, big when. There is a lot of talk because he is still being interviewing by the special prosecutor. He keeps being hauled before the grand jury. So something is going on here with the special prosecutor. We don’t know whether he is going to clear him or nail him.

    So Matthews came on another show to say this? What actually is he saying? Nothing. As usual. The man just wanted camera-face time. This age of celebanchors sucks. I know that is an obvious statement but gotta say again once in awhile.


  31. merlallen says:

    Is Don Imus trying to play some kind of character? Why does he dress like that?


  32. princess calamari says:

    I implore the wonderous Flying Spaghetti Monster for a downpour of marinara sauce over the white house and most of DC. May the streets be flooded with red sauce. May your rath on those who are deserving be quick. And I am doing a pesto novena today for the indictment of Karl Rove. Please grant this request.
    And may we all be touched by Your Noodley Appendage.
    Ramen


  33. eightnine2718281828mu5 says:


    Remember when the administration projected a 550 billion dollar deficit but it was only in the 400’s? They came out smelling like roses.

    Remember when they predicted something like 8 million new jobs from those tax cuts? And only a couple million actually showed up? And they reverted to plan B, which was to just *claim* they smelled like roses.

    Which is a lot easier once you factor in the msm uncritically repeating said claim ad nauseam.


  34. eightnine2718281828mu5 says:

    Did I say ‘tax cuts’? I meant ‘hikes’, since they didn’t offset them with spending cuts. And taxes will be higher to pay the interest on the debt.


  35. thinkaboutit says:

    Squeege, of course it’s all smoke and mirrors. certainly Mr. Rove hasn’t done any unethical or illegal. It’s obvious that the vast left wing conspirers have nothing. 5 times in front of a grand jury mean nothing. So what if his “story” has changed, he’s a busy man and can’t remember who he said what to. We should turn our attention to the more important matters of the day like……. that’s where i need your help squeegepoo, what should i be more concerned about?


  36. Badmoodman says:

    I’m sure many posts have mentioned the fact that an indictment could NOT come today too. It’s no surprise this grand jury is meeting today – - they meet every Wednesday and Friday. Matthews is a bipolar flip-flopper at any rate.


  37. GW Bush the Retard says:

    Tweety Matthews is another puppet of the Bushes. He is hoping that Rove doesn’t get indicted. He also said when asked by Imus whether the Democrats would take both Houses of Congress, “I really think they are going to win both the House and the Senate, that’s what it looks like”…..then he sighed after he said it…..way to hide your true feelings Tweety.


  38. thot's says:

    I don’t believe anything will come of this .bush will do a Blanket Pardon.

    2000 the year that America’s Consitution was put on lifesupport.
    2004 The year that America got even weaker .Oxygen was the only support given to her Consitution.
    2006 America is gurgling her last breath of Freedom,her hands are clinching the Consitution and Bill Of Rights but all Americans are saying take her off life support we don’t The Bill of Rights Or The Consitution we just need to “Feel Safe and Secure” Here is my freedoms take them Now!

    The Peace of Mind Government………When Fasicm Come To America It will Be Wrapped In a Flag Carrying a Cross ..


  39. thinkaboutit says:

    The fact the Matthews says it doesn’t make it so. Fitz has been methodical and if there is enough evidence to indite then indite he will. There is only speculation at this point.


  40. squegeeboo says:

    thinkaboutit

    “certainly Mr. Rove hasn’t done any unethical or illegal. It’s obvious that the vast left wing conspirers have nothing. 5 times in front of a grand jury mean nothing.”

    There you go, now your on the track to recovery, just let the truth flow thru you. :)

    My crywolf comment wasn’t to imply that he hasn’t done anything unethical(i think he has) or anything illegal(I’ll leave that up to the lawyers/judges/jury to decide) but rather that I’ve heard the ‘rove hours from inditement’ line so often now, that I instantly disregard it as something that will happen, and won’t bother to do anything more then mock it until he’s actually been indited.

    “that’s where i need your help squeegepoo, what should i be more concerned about?”
    American Idol? 20+ million sheepeople can’t be wrong.
    Frisbee, thats always good for an afternoon.
    Hockey play offs?

    There’s tons to do/follow, all you have to do is learn to ignore the man behind the curtain.


  41. the fly-man says:

    Here is a great article from Glenn G. about the essence of the Administration’s MO.
    http://alternet.org/story/36070/


  42. wisedup says:

    dumb and dumber think they know something?…..right…..


  43. thinkaboutit says:

    “There you go, now your on the track to recovery, just let the truth flow thru you. :)” Are you implying my concern over abouse of powers is an illness? I put no great emphasis on what Matthews said or the grand jury meeting today but i will not ignore the past. This is just one more example of the misdeeds by this administration. The man behind the curtain has been there long enough. To expound on your idea of truth. “the truth shall set you free”. I, for one would like to know the truth.


  44. Grinnin' and OBGYNin' says:

    Imus makes me want to crawl right back into bed…


  45. D Allen says:

    FITZMAS! Today could be the day, oh please god or whoever, make it today. I want to see Queen Karl’s Frog March more than anything…well, OK, McFlightsuit and Dr. Evil’s Frog March should be a Pay Per View event and I would sell off body parts to witness that! But for today – FITZMAS!


  46. Hardy Haberman says:

    Crossing my fingers and making my Fitzmas wishes.


  47. Grinnin' and OBGYNin' says:

    I’m really frusterated because I’m a good “Doc” and I’m not able to practice my love with women.


  48. RacingTowardTheStoneAge says:

    If it happens I will celebrate… not a second before.

    Exactly.


  49. Ahmad Chalabi says:

    Dammit, where are those WMDs?


  50. Retired Republican Soldier says:

    By all means Rove should go to prison! Everyone knows that beating Democrats in elections is a crime of the highest order. Now if you girls and boys have been good the Fitmaz fairy will bring you a new talking point that might last two weeks. Can’t wait until Scooters trial and actually see what Fitz calls “evidence” and the crime that supposedly was committed. I wonder if he will write the forward for Plames tell-all book on her so-called “secret” life? No crying when you don’t get what you want or the Fitzmas fairy won’t ever come back again.


  51. Zookeeper says:

    #51 – You’re so funny. Was it cherry kool-aid? Was it nice and sweet? Someday the truth of what is going on these days will dawn on you, and you will be devastated. Sorry…


  52. madashell says:

    hey people – its INDICT!!!!!!


  53. thinkaboutit says:

    Hey RRS, it’s now known that Plame was working on the nuclear activities of Iran, so for the sake of keeping the fear going on the terrible (but trumped up) charges about the mushroom cloud from Iraq they damaged the intelligence gathering on the real threat in Iraq. Clear your head and drop the idol worship of an administration that has not put the american people first.


  54. Drew Mackenzie says:

    Is Don Imus trying to play some kind of character? Why does he dress like that?

    Because if he doesn’t wear the hat he looks like Tom Baker (Doctor Who).


  55. Sven says:

    Is that IMUS or Estaban trying to sell me his guitar?

    #51 It is unfortunate that 2 weeks is too long of a shelf-life for for a “talking point” due to the sheer amount of corruption your people are dispensing… Its not anything to be proud of, you know?


  56. Hamster Brain says:

    Heard this line too many times, I will believe it when it happens, till then, and even now, who cares about Rover?

    I don’t. He’s Just another Liar Apologist. Like FLUSH DIMBULB.
    Useless Liars. The World has no need for these people, they have no purpose, they have done nothing to improve the World.


  57. Antagonist says:

    I’m going to laugh my ass off when Rove is not indicted. I will also laugh my ass off if he is—because it would be bogus charges to make political points, just like it was with De Lay. I’m already laughing my ass off because all you lefties are so sincere, and so serious, and yet so gullible. You hang on every word of the Democrat talking points—amplified by an adoring media, and you’re totally blinded. The proof is in that you are unable to hear anything about Bush or the administration, and process the information with any objectivity or fair-mindedness. You’ve totally bought into this so-called culture of corruption B.S. and therefore everything that Bush and the Republicans do must be bad. I’ve never seen such a collection of arrogant psuedo-intellectuals anywhere, like I’ve seen here. you wait in great anticipation for the media and ThinkProgress to serve up some bad news about your political enemies, and then you go into feeding frenzy. Your useless attempts to sound convincing are laughable as well. All you do is provide links and quote others who agree with you–like that somehow makes your positions credible. I guess I should be grateful though—you give me a lot to laugh about.


  58. madashell says:

    antagonistic FOOL — 29% and sinking – how does it feel imbecile?


  59. madashell says:

    FOR YOUR READING PLEASURE ANTAGONISTIC FOOL –

    Republican Hypocrisy Revealed

    AND ALL OF IT IS BACKED UP BY THE TRUTH


  60. Sven says:

    #59

    Name one irrefutable thing Bush has done for the good of our country.


  61. Antagonist says:

    #60

    I couldn’t care less what Bush’s approval rating is—they’re just over-sampling the Democrats anyway. Why are all these approval rating polls coming in such rapid succession anyway? Is it the plan to keep hammering away at Bush in order to brainwash the public into thinking that the (”we don’t have a plan, but we’ll somehow do everything smarter and better”) Democrats are a better choice come November?
    Don’t be such a gullible dumbass.


  62. madashell says:

    Ah the Repukes – the party of Tim McVeigh and Ted Bundy.


  63. thinkaboutit says:

    #63

    A plan? tell me what’s GW’s plan. The democrats have put forward plans for troop reduction only to be stopped by ideologs in the house and senate. They are the one’s who put forth the only bill that’s been voted on and it was for immediate withdrawl. The republicans spent our tax dollars on throwing together a bullshit bill they knew would fail. Now there’s a plan. polls have always come out in rapid succession, go to pollingreport.com and look at the history of the polls on this administration. Hell even Fox shows them in the crapper. do you think Fox is sampling democrats. The people in charge now aren’t true republicans. Fiscal responsibility (no), less government (no) more accountability (Hell No).


  64. Sven says:

    #63 (re #62) didn’t think so

    “I couldn’t care less what Bush’s approval rating is” -of course not, look at it.

    “they’re just over-sampling the Democrats anyway.” -proof?

    “Why are all these approval rating polls coming in such rapid succession anyway?”- they usually do and besides these are record lows and is therefore newsworthy especially considering the overwhelming support he enjoyed in the not so distant past.

    “Is it the plan to keep hammering away at Bush” -yes

    “in order to brainwash the public” no, but it looks like they’ve done a good enough job in brainwashing you to believe there is no alternative Democrat plan.

    “Democrats are a better choice come November” – yup. “better” is the operative word, but yeah.

    Wake up and use your advice to view things more objectively instead of through your blind allegiance.


  65. barfly says:

    I’m going to laugh my ass off when Rove is not indicted. I will also laugh my ass off if he is—because it would be bogus charges to make political points, just like it was with De Lay.
    Comment by Antagonist — May 12, 2006 @ 12:57 pm

    Schizo comment noted, and saved.

    Desperation drips from your post; a “tell” if ever I saw one.


  66. Antagonist says:

    #62

    That a loaded questiion. No matter what I say, you’ll quote another liberal, or provide a link to some article that you agree with, written by yet another liberal, and then declare that I’ve been refuted—Then all your liberal buddies here will chime in and pat you on the back for sticking it to me. Now that I’ve said this much—you’ll try to convince me that your sources are indeed unbiased and fair, and there must be something wrong with me because I don’t agree with your liberal ideologies or your mock intellectual honesty. Just for the record though, and I’m purposely speaking in general, I think Bush has done a lot of things good for our country, and I also think he’s made some mistakes. The fact that you have to ask for one “irrefutable thing” only proves your incapacity for objectivity and fair-mindeness.


  67. madashell says:

    so what is it antagonist – what is the ONE THING?


  68. Sven says:

    #68

    didn’t think so…

    You could have at least tried something YOU find irrefutable.


  69. Sven says:

    #68 Again, didn’t think so…

    You could have at least stated 1 thing that just YOU find irrefutable. Or is that you admitting that you can’t.

    and there must be something wrong with me because I don’t agree with your liberal ideologies or your mock intellectual honesty. – Was it that Hippychick who turned you down in College?


  70. Antagonist says:

    #67

    Sober up barfly, you can note and save my comments all you want—to what end?. And being able to laugh my ass off no matter the outcome for Rove is not schizo—it’s healthy—something a barfly probably knows little about. As for my being desperate—only in your dreams. I have nothing invested in Rove’s guilt or innocence. If he’s truly guilty of a crime, then he deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. If he’s not guilty, I’m going to ridicule everyone like you, because you’re wholly invested in his guilt—and you’ll all look stupid.


  71. madashell says:

    Study of Bush’s psyche touches a nerve

    Julian Borger in Washington

    A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in “fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity”.
    As if that was not enough to get Republican blood boiling, the report’s four authors linked Hitler, Mussolini, Ronald Reagan and the rightwing talkshow host, Rush Limbaugh, arguing they all suffered from the same affliction.

    All of them “preached a return to an idealised past and condoned inequality”.

    Republicans are demanding to know why the psychologists behind the report, Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition, received $1.2m in public funds for their research from the National Science Foundation and the National Institutes of Health.
    The authors also peer into the psyche of President George Bush, who turns out to be a textbook case. The telltale signs are his preference for moral certainty and frequently expressed dislike of nuance.

    “This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and stereotypes,” the authors argue in the Psychological Bulletin.

    One of the psychologists behind the study, Jack Glaser, said the aversion to shades of grey and the need for “closure” could explain the fact that the Bush administration ignored intelligence that contradicted its beliefs about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.

    The authors, presumably aware of the outrage they were likely to trigger, added a disclaimer that their study “does not mean that conservatism is pathological or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false”.

    Another author, Arie Kruglanski, of the University of Maryland, said he had received hate mail since the article was published, but he insisted that the study “is not critical of conservatives at all”. “The variables we talk about are general human dimensions,” he said. “These are the same dimensions that contribute to loyalty and commitment to the group. Liberals might be less intolerant of ambiguity, but they may be less decisive, less committed, less loyal.”

    But what drives the psychologists? George Will, a Washington Post columnist who has long suffered from ingrained conservatism, noted, tartly: “The professors have ideas; the rest of us have emanations of our psychological needs and neuroses.”


  72. Sven says:

    I have nothing invested in Rove’s guilt or innocence. – You are an American, aren’t you? Do you really not believe that you have something vested in wether or not a top official in the White House outed an operative who may have been able to obtain better information regarding the Nuclear issues in Iran? Or did you not know that was what she was working on. I do, thanks to someone…


  73. madashell says:

    Sven – and he still won’t answer the question – because he can’t.


  74. madashell says:

    “Liberals might be less intolerant of ambiguity, but they may be less decisive, less committed, less loyal.”

    only because we have the ability to think for ourselves.


  75. Antagonist says:

    #71

    Oh I get it….If I won’t give you some little morsal in which you can supposedly “refute” — then it’s because I truly can’t think of one good thing Bush has done. (I can’t wait to see how that comment will be parsed) How childish of you Sven


  76. madashell says:

    semantics – its all about semantics when it comes to talking their dribble -

    okay antagonistic fool – without the word “irrefutable”, just name ONE GOOD THING BUSH HAS DONE


  77. Sven says:

    madashell- Even I can think of one: He has made more “average” people politically aware than anyone in our recent history. Of course that’s only going to come back to bite those of his ilk in the ass.


  78. madashell says:

    The “conservative” loyalty BS, is the same as MAFIA loyalty. no matter what.


  79. madashell says:

    Sven – you’re right to a point. Sure he woke up a lot of people. But I think he has indirectly made some people check out of life early…I for one am sick of being OUTRAGED!


  80. madashell says:

    And Sven, I was actually thinking more in the terms of something good he did for the good of HUMANITY!


  81. Sven says:

    #77 Are you really having that much trouble coming up with just one? I didn’t expect the question to be so intimidating.


  82. Sven says:

    #81 No, I get it. I’m right there with you.


  83. madashell says:

    “Liberals might be less intolerant of ambiguity, but they may be less decisive, less committed, less loyal.”

    another take on this, for more clarification

    decisive – making the best judgment call.

    less committed – to who?

    less loyal – again to who?


  84. Antagonist says:

    #75

    I think it would be a better exercise for you to think of one thing Bush has done that was good for our country. Pretend you’re in therapy (again) and that you have to think of at least one thing—no giving up—no saying “I can’t” you must think of one thing. I’m sure it will be painful for you, but it will be for your own good. Soon objectivity and common sense will start to trickle back into your thickened liberal skull.


  85. Sven says:

    86 Nope, I already gave you a freebie. Now its your turn. Is that really the best you got? Are you really trying to convince anyone that Conservative=Objective? Isn’t that an oxy-moron? I mean that in only the most objective way possible.


  86. madashell says:

    round and round and round and round and round he goes.


  87. madashell says:

    and to think I have a 25 year old niece “fighting” for his freedom to speak.


  88. madashell says:

    y’know, Sven, there is no point in talking to sociopaths. Really.


  89. Antagonist says:

    #73

    I almost fell out of my chair laughing… the lengths people will go to assert their positions—conservatism is a pschological disorder! Oh my God—are you serious? I’m sure you believe every word of that report too! I’ve seen plenty of equally outrageous stuff published about liberalism, but I see no need to quote it or to believe it. Conservatism and liberalism are two different ideals—neither of which is wrong. What is wrong is when you are so blinded by your own ideals, that you cannot see, or understand, or represent any opposing ‘ideals’ with any degree of accuracy or fairness.


  90. Antagonist says:

    #87

    I’m not going to play your little game Sven. Take your ball and go home.


  91. ZoneFlood » Media to Stakeout Fitzgerald Court on Friday says:

    [...] Chris Matthew’s on Karl Rove’s Possible Indictment: “It could be today.” [Don Imus Show | Friday, May 12, 2006] [...]


  92. madashell says:

    you, antagonistic fool, are no conservative. You are just a delusional little pea-brained nobody.


  93. madashell says:

    A true conservative, in the traditional sense, would have the open mind to debate intelligently. These trolls on this blog are in no way a true conservative. That much I do know to be true.


  94. Sven says:

    Satantagonist,

    Conservatism and liberalism are two different ideals—neither of which is wrong. What is wrong is when you are so blinded by your own ideals, that you cannot see, or understand, or represent any opposing ‘ideals’ with any degree of accuracy or fairness. – I am not afraid to say that I completely agree with this statement. Now its your turn. C’mon.

    This is no game, (well it wasn’t to begin with, anyway) just a simple quesiton you seem completely unable to answer. Why are you so afraid to back up your opinion? with just 1 thing. 1. Are you that insecure in your beliefs? Seriously.


  95. thinkaboutit says:

    Blah, Blah, Blah says the antagonist while holding his hands over his ears and keeping his eyes shut tight. Go ahead and laugh your ass off. might just be the best exercise you’ve had in years. There is no need convincing you of anything. Please stay and continue to spooge your thoughts here. You’re not the only one laughing their asses off.


  96. Elmo_Buzz says:

    #60….I’ll tell you one good thing W Bush has done (well, almost done…the mission isn’t quite yet accomplished, but he soon will have completed it): Destroyed the Republican Party!


  97. Sven says:

    90 No kidding. Wow…

    I mean: 2 and a half hours and counting and not 1 “morsel” to back his support of the guy and yet I’m being close minded. Why even continue to post without answering? It was funny at first, now its just weird.


  98. Clif says:

    In Antagonists mind what he can’t say is George Bush has pushed the government to the christian right and given trillions of all of our childrens and grandchildrens money to his lackeys and idiotic minions, he sees that as good but is way too afraid of actually outing his greed and intolorance here, thus he just states a non provable point and ignores any facts that counter it sort of like his chimp in chief……you know the one who falls close to Hitler in the psyche exam….


  99. Sven says:

    Satantagonist,

    Okay, I would like to offer you one more chance to save some face. This time I will allow you to site a “fair” source and use that source to refute your 1 thing that Bush has done for the good of the country. Then, I will go home with my ball.


  100. Clayton says:

    Remember, Fritz is a republican, appointed by Republicans…


  101. Sven says:

    Antagonist,

    Well, its been 4 hours since I initially posed the simple question to you and I actually do have to leave (and take my ball with me), but not before I thank you for helping to confirm my growing suspicion that the tide is truly finally turning on Bush and his blind supporters.

    Even just a matter of weeks ago, who would have thought that a Bush supporter would be too afraid of a Liberal’s ability to refute even just one thing that Bush has done for the good of the country? Have a good weekend. I know I will.

    Thank You,
    Sven


  102. nyblues says:

    #102 Clayton That’s simply not true. Fitzgerald is neither Dem or repug. He’s an Independent.

    I guess we’ll have to wait until next week.


  103. Scott says:

  104. madashell says:

    Scott- That is BIG news, but somehow it still won’t be enough….


  105. Kenny says:

    13 hours later and Mathews is still the worst commentator on the tube. He’s about a reliable as a firestone 500 tire on a ford pinto


  106. Sally says:

    I notice that MSNBC is lying again..they have “LIVE” in the right hand corner of the Imus screen..that is a bold face lie he can’t possibly be living.


  107. Kenny says:

    Monday May 15 Mathews announces on Imus show indictment of Marvin the Martian for blowing up the earth to improve his view of the moon.


  108. mm briggs says:

    if matthews is even admitting that he’s heard of prosecutor fitzgerald then you know all of washington must be abuzz with the story that rove is about to be indicted. and of course if you read al the blogs, you know that the surprise will be if rove beats the wrap. but take a look at imus–he looks like a drag queen in cowboy attire. what a piece of work!


  109. Seixon says:

    Yet another false alarm. How many of these are the folks at MSNBC allowed to have? We’ve heard this same spiel for weeks now. Every Friday. Guess we’ll have to wait until next Friday for Shuster and Matthews to tell us the same thing! Catch you guys then!


  110. SEIXON says:

    Truth Out on Rove?…

    Rove is going to get indicted. Says Jason Leopold at Truthout. Says David Shuster. Says Chris Matthews. Something they’ve been saying for a long time now. When is it going to happen guys? Or is this the anti-Bush fantasy that just keeps on giving?…


  111. unbelievable says:

    Or is this the anti-Bush fantasy that just keeps on giving?…
    Trackback by SEIXON — May 13, 2006 @ 10:58 am

    Name one valid positive thing Bush has done that equals anyone of the numerous bad things he’s done.

    So far none of you neocons can. Don’t you thhink you ought to get over the fact that you voted for the wrong guy and act like an American who wants an Administration who respects and upholds the Constitution? It is in your best interest you know. Even if you spend the rest of your life in Norway.


  112. Rathergate.com » Indict Karl Rove? says:

    [...] Chris Matthews tells Don Imus that Karl Rove mightl be indicted immediately. From Friday morning: MATTHEWS: If, however, something happens with Karl Rove, we’re going to go to general quarters around here. [...]


  113. Mark A. Kilmer (the weblog) » Who wants to indict Rove says:

    [...] Chris Matthews tells Don Imus that Karl Rove mightl be indicted immediately. From Friday morning: MATTHEWS: If, however, something happens with Karl Rove, we’re going to go to general quarters around here. [...]


  114. Jed B. says:

    The failure of the Congress to immediately impeach George W. Bush is at this point unconscienable.

    Bush must be driven from office and this madness must end now.

    For our dignity if nothing else.

    Torture. Camps in Cuba run by Marines. Torture. Lies. Spying on millions of people without warrent. Searches in the subways. A culture of fear, war and repression.

    It’s got to end.


  115. mighty aphrodite says:

    #116 – “Torture. Camps in Cuba run by Marines. Torture. Lies. Spying on millions of people without warrent. Searches in the subways. A culture of fear, war and repression.” – Comment by JB

    ***** You are absolutely RIGHT – it is unconscienable that the US has sought to protect itself from radical Islamists! The fact that you have a diffiCULT time differentiating between “spying” on Americans and data-mining phone patterns is telling. Silly me – it does make it easier for people who want to blow up subway trains to have the ability to bring explosives in backpacks – (i.e. 7/7 – London).


  116. Cyra Brown says:

    What ‘Trolls’ are saying, as they cling, oh so desperately, to the slick surface of the ‘commodes’ they call home, is being drowned out by the roar of the water that will eventually carry them away. How satisfying it is to watch them, as they witness their own demise. I feel sort of sleazy, for feeling this pleasure, as I observe their suffering. But I will get over it, just not in the near future. I am a bad girl. O.k. ‘Trolls’, carry on… you do it SO well!


  117. Satyagraha says:

    Rove Indicted!

    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051306W.shtml

    http://boston.indymedia.org/otherpress/display/4661/index.php

    Where’s the 24/7media? 3/4 of a day later.

    Hunting with Cheney and Scalia talk’n the next
    (s)election?


  118. Nominay says:

    Something is wrong here … this story has been out for half a day about and it is still only confined to one source.


  119. Tank says:

    Happy 2000th premature Rove indictment story ThinkProgress !!


  120. nuffsnuff says:

    Just trolling here to see how the hamsters are trying to spin this. On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being “I am on the road to Damascus” and 10 being “I would rather do an Oedipal ocular excision than face the truth, so far the Mighty Aphrodite is the only perfect 10.


  121. Wilco Wise » Blog Archive » Stay Tuned says:

    [...] We’ve been watching this *story* develop since Friday. The liberal bloggers and news blatherers are having a field day with the story that Karl Rove has been secretly indicted and will surrender to authorities some time this week. Chris Matthews has repeated the story to Don Imus and others are following suit. [...]


  122. Progressaurus Rex says:

    happy 2000th troll-and-protect-kkkarl-at-all-costs, backwash!

    that means you get to be kkkarl’s boy-toy for a day, tank!

    don’t let dog-on-mAntagonist know, he’ll be jealous!


  123. TruthSeeker says:

    You’re going down, Karl. Bye bye tubby.


  124. The Storms Blog » Blog Archive » No Rove Indictment says:

    [...] Matthews on Rove Indictment: ‘It Could Be Today’ [...]


  125. The Storms Blog » Blog Archive » No Rove Indictment says:

    [...] Matthews on Rove Indictment: ‘It Could Be Today’ [...]



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