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I can tell you right now that all statistics show that teens who receive contraceptive education (not just abstinence instruction) have far lower incidence of sexual activity and those who ARE sexually active use condoms (the only device to protect against pregnancy AND HIV) more often. Anyone who thinks that sex ed. will “make” teens go out and have sex is an idiot! If they really want to do it…they WILL, regardlesss of how much they know. Better to have them educated than operating in ignorance and producing unwanted children!

Strange how I didn’t see anyone mentino (DID anyone mention?) adoption? You never hear the anti-choice, anti-sex-ed morons say how much value a kid’s life has AFTER it’s born. They’re probably too busing abusing and/or neglecting the poor children!

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/14/religious-contraception/comment-page-3/#comment-559295 big papa Tue, 16 May 2006 17:10:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/14/religious-contraception/#comment-559295 <strong>Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Jerry "Tinkie-Winkie Falwell, Reid</strong> ALL of them... ...are inbreds, and continue to <strong>practice incest </strong>and inbreeding... ...<strong>why do you think </strong>they... ...and their constituents are <strong>so RETARDED</strong>?... ...and <strong>hypocritical</strong>... ...look at all of the <strong>indictments of right wing conservatives </strong>on <strong>child porn and molestation charges </strong>lately... ...this is <strong>NO aberration</strong>... ...they're ALL <strong>sexually repressed sick-o's</strong>... Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Jerry “Tinkie-Winkie Falwell, Reid ALL of them…

…are inbreds, and continue to practice incest and inbreeding…

…why do you think they…

…and their constituents are so RETARDED?…

…and hypocritical…

…look at all of the indictments of right wing conservatives on child porn and molestation charges lately…

…this is NO aberration…

…they’re ALL sexually repressed sick-o’s…

]]> By: kilgore2345 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/14/religious-contraception/comment-page-3/#comment-558311 kilgore2345 Tue, 16 May 2006 00:03:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/14/religious-contraception/#comment-558311 <em>That’s not what you said or what I took issue with. You said you refused to have children unless they could be guaranteed peace, safety and security. That’s stupid and just another way of saying that you pretend to want the “best” for children but what you really mean is that you are selfish and materialistic. Been there done that. Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 15, 2006 @ 3:34 pm </em> What is exactly selfish about wanting to have the best environment to raise my children in? What is exactly materialistic about that? Am I suppose to just have children, because the Christian Conservative Movement says I should? I do want what is best for my children -- why shouldn't I expect safety and security? That is all I have heard since 9/11; safety and security - safety and security, but I do not feel one more iota safer and more secure since that day. Here you (a right winger) admit it, that it is "stupid" to think that one should expect peace, safety, and security. I don't want to extrapolate too much, but it does seem to speak that the Right may not care about the security of this country. That’s not what you said or what I took issue with. You said you refused to have children unless they could be guaranteed peace, safety and security. That’s stupid and just another way of saying that you pretend to want the “best” for children but what you really mean is that you are selfish and materialistic. Been there done that.

Comment by I-RIGHT-I — May 15, 2006 @ 3:34 pm

What is exactly selfish about wanting to have the best environment to raise my children in? What is exactly materialistic about that? Am I suppose to just have children, because the Christian Conservative Movement says I should? I do want what is best for my children — why shouldn’t I expect safety and security?

That is all I have heard since 9/11; safety and security – safety and security, but I do not feel one more iota safer and more secure since that day. Here you (a right winger) admit it, that it is “stupid” to think that one should expect peace, safety, and security. I don’t want to extrapolate too much, but it does seem to speak that the Right may not care about the security of this country.

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]]> By: For Truth http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/14/religious-contraception/comment-page-3/#comment-557819 For Truth Mon, 15 May 2006 21:24:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/14/religious-contraception/#comment-557819 <em>The Religious Right and Republican party want to attack a symptom without addressing the root causes, so we end up with the worse of all situations. Comment by Jack — May 15, 2006 @ 1:27 am </em> THis my friend is the way Most Republicans try to solve problems. The Religious Right and Republican party want to attack a symptom without addressing the root causes, so we end up with the worse of all situations.

Comment by Jack — May 15, 2006 @ 1:27 am

THis my friend is the way Most Republicans try to solve problems.

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