VIDEO: David Corn Confronts Rove On Lying About Plame Leak
VIDEO: David Corn Confronts Rove On Lying About Plame Leak
This morning, Karl Rove gave a speech at the American Enterprise Institute. During the question and answer session, David Corn of the Nation Magazine asked him why he fed White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan misinformation about his involvement in leaking Valerie Plame’s identity. (Rove told McClellan that he was “not involved.”) Rove refused to answer. Watch it:
Full transcript:
CORN: David Corn from “The Nation Magazine” on a different subject. Scott McClellan told the White House press corps, many who are here today, that he had spoken to you and you were not involved in the CIA leak. Can you explain why the American public, almost two and a half years later, hasn’t been given an explanation and don’t you think it deserves one for that misinformation because it does seem you were to some degree, though maybe disputed, involved in that leak?
ROVE: My attorney Mr. Luskin made a statement on April 26th. I refer to you that statement. I have nothing more to add to it. Nice try, though.
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Nice, I wonder when the white house will simply stop any sort of speaches, from anyone in the administration, no matter how loyal the audience? They will instead move to put out canned soundbites.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:18 pmfrist his ass
May 15th, 2006 at 12:18 pmHey, it looks like Tubby McTreason has lost some weight. Maybe his appetite ain’t what it once was. Nerves?
May 15th, 2006 at 12:21 pmwhen is this guy going to jail? I’m tired of waiting.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:21 pmRove looks pale and not at all healthy. I think the impending announcement of his indictment has him worried.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:22 pmRove has a simple out for this question. He merely has to channel Scotty McClellan’s mantra about not commenting on an ongoing investigation.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:22 pmnice try?…………shorter KKKarl Rove to the American people……screw you
May 15th, 2006 at 12:24 pmIt’s interesting that recently tough questions have been reaching Bush, Rumsfeld and Rove. Does anyone have any ideas why this is finally happening?
May 15th, 2006 at 12:24 pmActually, upon watching the video, Pasty Guy seems as arrogant as ever. He probably knows the fix is in–just like the Iran/Contra pardons from a previous generation.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:24 pm“Nice try, though.” He doesn’t even try to hide his contempt for the press and the American people.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:30 pmCan someone explain something to me? : how is it on truthout.org it says that Rove has been indicted but it’s nowhere on today’s news? When you look on truthout.org it is written that the indictment has already taken place. I am a bit confused. Why is CNN etc. not picking this up?
May 15th, 2006 at 12:31 pm> “Nice try, though.†He doesn’t even try
> to hide his contempt for the press
> and the American people.
You beat me to pointing this out it by mere seconds. What a total asshole.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:31 pmIt’s interesting that recently tough questions have been reaching Bush, Rumsfeld and Rove. Does anyone have any ideas why this is finally happening?
Comment by Publicus — May 15, 2006 @ 12:24 pm
the embarrassing public whipping from colbert?
May 15th, 2006 at 12:32 pmRove: “Nice try, though.”
Translation: “Go screw yourself. I don’t have to be held accountable for anything I do. I’m Turdblossom the Magnificent. I’m invincible!”
May 15th, 2006 at 12:32 pmJason Leopold | Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted •
Mr. Fitzgerald Calling •
Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report
Saturday 13 May 2006
Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove.
During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 business hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.
Robert Luskin, Rove’s attorney, did not return a call for comment. Sources said Fitzgerald was in Washington, DC, Friday and met with Luskin for about 15 hours to go over the charges against Rove, which include perjury and lying to investigators about how and when Rove discovered that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA operative and whether he shared that information with reporters, sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said.
It was still unknown Saturday whether Fitzgerald charged Rove with a more serious obstruction of justice charge. Sources close to the case said Friday that it appeared very likely that an obstruction charge against Rove would be included with charges of perjury and lying to investigators.
An announcement by Fitzgerald is expected to come this week, sources close to the case said. However, the day and time is unknown. Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the special prosecutor was unavailable for comment. In the past, Samborn said he could not comment on the case.
The grand jury hearing evidence in the Plame Wilson case met Friday on other matters while Fitzgerald spent the entire day at Luskin’s office. The meeting was a closely guarded secret and seems to have taken place without the knowledge of the media.
As TruthOut reported Friday evening, Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to sources.
Details of Rove’s discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House, where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee.
Speaking on condition of anonymity Friday night, sources confirmed Rove’s indictment was imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove’s situation. A spokesman in the White House press office said they would not comment on “wildly speculative rumors.”
Rove’s announcement to President Bush and Bolten comes more than a month after he alerted the new chief of staff to a meeting his attorney had with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in which Fitzgerald told Luskin that his case against Rove would soon be coming to a close and that he was leaning toward charging Rove with perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators, according to sources close to the investigation.
A few weeks after he spoke with Fitzgerald, Luskin arranged for Rove to return to the grand jury for a fifth time to testify in hopes of fending off an indictment related to Rove’s role in the CIA leak, sources said.
That meeting was followed almost immediately by an announcement by newly-appointed White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten of changes in the responsibilities of some White House officials, including Rove, who was stripped of his policy duties and would no longer hold the title of deputy White House chief of staff.
The White House said Rove would focus on the November elections and his change in status in no way reflected his fifth appearance before the grand jury or the possibility of an indictment.
But since Rove testified two weeks ago, the White House has been coordinating a response to what is sure to be the biggest political scandal it has faced thus far: the loss of a key political operative who has been instrumental in shaping White House policy on a wide range of domestic issues.
Rove testified that he first found out about Plame Wilson from reading a newspaper report in July 2003 and only after the story was published did he share damaging information about her CIA status with other reporters.
However, evidence has surfaced during the course of the two-year-old investigation that shows Rove spoke with at least two reporters about Plame Wilson prior to the publication of the column.
The explanation Rove provided to the grand jury - that he was dealing with more urgent White House matters and therefore forgot - has not convinced Fitzgerald that Rove has been entirely truthful in his testimony and resulted in the indictment.
Some White House staffers said it’s the uncertainty of Rove’s status in the leak case that has made it difficult for the administration’s domestic policy agenda and that the announcement of an indictment and Rove’s subsequent resignation, while serious, would allow the administration to move forward on a wide range of issues.
“We need to start fresh and we can’t do that with the uncertainty of Karl’s case hanging over our heads,” said one White House aide. “There’s no doubt that it will be front page news if and when (an indictment) happens. But eventually it will become old news quickly. The key issue here is that the president or Mr. Bolten respond to the charges immediately, make a statement and then move on to other important policy issues and keep that as the main focus going forward.”
May 15th, 2006 at 12:33 pmfor those who think the “outing” of Plame was not illegal………exactly why has it taken 2 1/2 years for the 2 “senior administration officials” cited in Knovak’s column to step forward and admit to doing something NOT illegal?
May 15th, 2006 at 12:33 pmHe has not been indicted Kurt, sad but true. If you scroll down to the think fast for today, you can read the story.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:33 pmKarl Rove, you go to hell.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:34 pmRove: total f*king liar
May 15th, 2006 at 12:36 pmIt’s interesting that recently tough questions have been reaching Bush, Rumsfeld and Rove. Does anyone have any ideas why this is finally happening?
It’s reflective of more incompetence.
Clearly, whoever is responsible for making sure that “terrorist loving journalists” aren’t allowed into these question and answer sessions is doing a heckuva job. It’s probably Dumbya’s high school prom coordinator.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:36 pma bit off topic…
but, i am voting for chavez in 2008!
May 15th, 2006 at 12:37 pmRe #11: Jason Leopold at TruthOut is standing alone with that story, claiming he has sources. Other sites/media don’t seem to be joining him. Either he’s got the scoop of the year, or he’s full of BS. Meantime we’ll just have to wait and see.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:37 pm… was wondering the same thing… saw the indictment story picked up by truthout, but have not seen it picked up anywhere else, which seems odd.
Red Rover, Red Rover, bend the traitor right over.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:38 pmThat’s almost as good as a Scooby Doo ending. “…and I would’ve gotten away with it too if it weren’t for you medling kids”!
May 15th, 2006 at 12:39 pmIt’s interesting that recently tough questions have been reaching Bush, Rumsfeld and Rove. Does anyone have any ideas why this is finally happening?
Comment by Publicus — May 15, 2006 @ 12:24 pm
I’m guessing so their buddies in the MSM, especially FOX, can then spin the whole “Poor administration officials are being attacked by the big, mean, anti-American liberals” angle.
Look at the way the media handled the Colbert/Bush thing and the McGovern/Rumsfeld thing. Instead of addressing the substence of what was said in both cases, it turned into a “how dare these people call out the administration on the continuous crap they pull.”
I’m at work, and can’t watch TV news (nor would I care to if I could, 24 news shows are comedic entertainment at best), but I’d bet a buck that this exchange gets coverage on FOX News. And the approach they’ll take is: “Today at a speech given by Uncle Karl where he said he was going to do something God-like (because he’s awesome and so is George Bush), some juvenile arse-clown asked a stupid question that makes me question if the reporter is a Communist who supports kicking dogs and enjoys eating used chewing gum from under tables at Denny’s.”
May 15th, 2006 at 12:40 pmWhen these liars, whose paychecks, retirement and benefits WE pay, refuse to answer like Rove just did, the next person called upon should repeat the question, and the next, and the next, and the next. We should never let them get off camera before the American people see them for what they are, lying, self-serving bottom feeders who line their birdcages with the Constitution of the United States of America.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:41 pmrove has lost weight not as pauchy face as he used to be..guess all the shit that is hitting the face has him on a stress diet.
Good Job David Corn! Way to Go!
May 15th, 2006 at 12:43 pmYou ask why the so called media haven’t picked up on KKKarl’s indictment, it is because they don’t report anything damaging to the presnit chimp-n-theif unless forced to.
KKKarl will not quit (resign) until the very very last minute. At that time they will issue another press conference like the one that they did for Goss (wait to see his fate) and then the msm will report on it but only a bit, then
Back on to the more important things ….. Kennedy driving while being an ambien zombie and the Duke lacrosse team…..too bad Natalie Holloway is old news for them.
KKKarl probably has until sometime Tuesday to quit, so don’t expect anything on it until late Tuesday for Wednesday.
The Chimp-n-chief will be blathering on about militarizing the border tonight, but I won’t hold my breath waiting for him to say something about KKKarl. It will be all roses and butterflies, Immigrants, Gays, God and Guns tonight. Nothing heavy like illegal war, illegal spying, or his complicity in treason.
It would be rather satisfying if he would say something catchy like I’m not a crook.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:45 pmI hope his poohole gets ravaged.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:51 pm#13
It’s interesting that recently tough questions have been reaching Bush, Rumsfeld and Rove. Does anyone have any ideas why this is finally happening?
i have considered that lately as well. i liken it to the arrogance and the sickness of the arsonist watching his or her own fire burning, or the common criminal returning to the crime, teasing the police, being aroused by his or her own power over them for just that one moment. i think it is part of their sickness; their twisted evil soulessness…
in other words, they simply ‘get off’ on showing their arrogance and their power openly, knowing that they can not and will not be touched…
any answer to your question must not be based in your or my reality, but, in the reality of the deeply disturbed, the evil psychopathy of the bush crime family.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:52 pmTHAT’S why he lost all that weight. Gotta be light so’s they can’t bugger what they can’t catch.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:55 pmDavid Corn’s a good guy.
Here’s a link to his blog: http://www.davidcorn.com/
The Q&A portion of these speeches is going to go away quickly. Better get the questions in while they can.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:55 pmHe didn’t ask Rove if he is presently indicted????? Way to go, David.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:56 pmI think in a parting gesture of contempt for the American people, we will be treated by dumbya and KKKarl giving us another taste of 9/11.
Just like them bringing up the hate gays thing (I call it the GOP’s greatest hits), they dust off old ideas that have worked for them and give ‘em a rerun.
….See dumbya telling us how great Goss would be, and fast forward to the same speech telling us how great Hayden will be. Same speech, different names inserted.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:56 pmGood stuff.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:57 pmGood God Rove is ugly. It’s no wonder he hates America.
I was soooo hoping for a Fitzmas party today. I hope the chimp’s address does not interfere with the last episode of Grey’s Anatomy!
May 15th, 2006 at 12:58 pm#36 - in the slammer they are all beautiful when they are face down.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:58 pmAnother helicopter was downed in Iraq today. The war is going great.
2602 dead soldiers so far since the mission was accomplished.
Heckuva job, George. Way to go, buddy.
Wake up. Rove needs to go to prison.
The Mexican army will be shooting at national guardsmen before too long also.
War is here to stay, thanks to George and the Bush Cabal and the corrupt US government.
Go war.
May 15th, 2006 at 12:59 pm#39 dumbya has already told the Mexican president that this is just a political stunt, don’t worry.
see
buzzflash.com
today
May 15th, 2006 at 1:01 pmIs it just me, or is the black woman in front of the reporter asking the question trying to hide a smaile?
May 15th, 2006 at 1:05 pmHe’s lost his smirk. Bolten needs to work on his mojo.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:10 pmHe’s lost his smirk. Bolten needs to work on his mojo.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:10 pmThe Bush National Guard speech tonight is just a distraction, to take the attention off of the fact that Bush’s brain wants to “spend more time with his family”
May 15th, 2006 at 1:13 pmI want to see Rove skip the country, that would be awesome.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:18 pmRove has the look of Lee Atwater before he died. The problem with selling your soul to the devil is you do not get to pick when he harvests it.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:20 pmIf Rove is indicted, I propose a national liberal/progressive holiday, and on Rove day we only eat tossed salad with cherry tomatoes.
Perhaps a New Orleans-style parade; paper-mache’ figures of Delay, Cunningham, Ney, Cheney, Hastert, Frist, etc. ankle-chained together and doing the “culture of corruption conga” to the Tubes’ “Don’t Touch Me There.”
Additional music provided by the Fitzgerald Posse, and the Backwash Boyz.
“C’mon down and celebrate the day Bush’s advisor was advised of his rights.”
May 15th, 2006 at 1:26 pmAndy- that’s the best statement I’ve heard.
Looks like we should subscribe to The Nation. It’s a great magazine and has no corporate backing. Cool.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:29 pm[…] Think Progress » VIDEO: David Corn Confronts Rove On Lying About Plame Leak […]
May 15th, 2006 at 1:29 pmfascist asshole, needs to be strung up,
May 15th, 2006 at 1:30 pmor better yet send his ass to afganistan,
i cant take this any longer.
the administration of assholes and idiots.
The Evil One
May 15th, 2006 at 1:31 pmHe looks like his mother was on psychiatric meds and alcohol during pregnancy and while breast feeding. This is what Bush and Rove have in common.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pmLooks like Rove’s got “THE AIDS”
May 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pmHow the hell did David Corn sneak into the American Enterprise Institute? Was he wearing a funny nose and glasses?
May 15th, 2006 at 1:41 pmKarl Rove & Porky Pig : separated at birth.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:41 pmI hope this shit ends soon!
Rove. Indicted. Public acknowledgement by Thursday.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:46 pmKarl is only a piece of the pie. I will bring Dick Cheney to his knees.
http://patrickjfitzgerald.blogspot.com
May 15th, 2006 at 1:46 pmanyone notice that rove has lost a lot of weight?
the stress is obviously affecting him.
maybe someone’s already mentioned it, i didn’t read the comments…
May 15th, 2006 at 1:47 pm#3, #5, #32, #53: Rove’s health is suffering due to his constant diet of fresh puppy blood.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:48 pmI’ll give David Corn credit - it WAS a nice try… Sadly, he throws like a girl, but what can one expect from a socialist/progressive “intellectual”? (FYI - discussing WHO sent Mr. Plame is NOT the same as leaking the information about who is employed where and by whom.)
May 15th, 2006 at 1:48 pmWhile we’re all waiting for the indictment of Rove, this could be a good time to look at the proposed punishments for Turd Blossom offered in the recent “Karl Rove Whack-a-Mole Contest.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:50 pmDid anyone else notice that the video clip started with Rove and the moderator cutting off a questioner and claiming that the questioner had “wasted enough [. . .] time”? I wonder who that person was and what his or her question was.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:54 pm#60 - Mighty Hag, in your world being an “intellectual” is a bad thing?
May 15th, 2006 at 1:55 pmDavid Corn confronted Rove on his lie to McClellan about being involved in the leak case in any capacity. What’s your point?
David Corn followed up with “yes - it was a nice try. But it isn’t my ass that’s going to be sore. Say hi to Bubba for me”
May 15th, 2006 at 1:55 pm#54
good point! the other question is ‘how did he get *out*’ of the aei alive?’
May 15th, 2006 at 1:57 pmMighty Hag, in your world being an “intellectual†is a bad thing?
Comment by Zookeeper — May 15, 2006 @ 1:55 pm
Interesting from someone with a supposed Master’s Degree in Law, huh?
May 15th, 2006 at 1:57 pm#59 Funny you should mention it… Rove just referred to himself as ’sanguine’.
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20060515/ ap_on_go_pr_wh/ rove
May 15th, 2006 at 1:58 pmSadly, he throws like a girl,
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 15, 2006 @ 1:48 pm
Real women do not use that term - because it’s an insult to girls. But, you’re not a woman, so it fits.
May 15th, 2006 at 1:59 pmHOW RUDE! Why are people bringing up such awkward topics lately? It must have been very uncomfortable to poor Mr. Rove to have to sit there and listen to such a harsh question.
I weep for this country.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:02 pmNo karl, it was a GREAT TRY, and it drove home what a lier you really are. Karl looks slimmer, have trouble sleeping?…………..eating?…………want a smaller orange suit?
May 15th, 2006 at 2:09 pmRove. His goose is cooked. His noose is set. His gallows await.
Next up? Dick Cheney.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:09 pmI think MA should head down to a womens fastpitch softball game, and tell them they throw like girls. I would give her about 10′ before she got dropped.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:10 pmI like that, damning with faint praise then an insult completely unrelated to the topic. Then a dispatch from the war on brains.
That’s right. One is an attempt at emasculation (such as referring to a married man by his wife’s name…would a woman find that so clever?) of a critic, and the other is a breach of national security. The administration did both.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:11 pmI heard Jason Leopold being interviewed on the Pacifica Radio Sunday program Background Briefing - with Ian Masters yesterday.
Leopold told Masters that he has a multiple sources that he has agreed to keep private and these sources are aware that if they lie or mislead him they know he’d reveal their identities.
It’s Leopold’s contention that the mainstream news media is too afraid to touch the story until it’s a done deal.
One thing for certain, Jason has been right on so far.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:15 pmRove looks like a huge malevolent baby. Maybe, when his indictment is announced, he’ll cry and throw things.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:16 pmCorn states in the video that most of the White House Press Corp was on hand at this event.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:16 pmThe rovester is looking slim… maybe he’s been laying off the carbs in advance of all of the bread he’ll be eating shortly…
May 15th, 2006 at 2:19 pm#50 : (personal) Hey Kirk, nice poem, I second that emotion. We should get together - come back to LB! - have L contact PB!
May 15th, 2006 at 2:29 pmhttp://tinyurl.com/a6erq
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1) Sign petitions if you have not done so
2) Send a letter to Congress (both Senators & House rep)
3) Send a copy to the media
4) Enlist friends and family to help, ask them to chip in time
5) Spread the link around, email it (with a request to forward) post it on a blog, or in the comments of a news story.
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May 15th, 2006 at 2:30 pmYeah, he’s losing weight. Wants to look good for his jailhouse romance.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:31 pm#68 - Real women do not use that term - because it’s an insult to girls. But, you’re not a woman, so it fits.
Comment by unbelievable
I think the operative word here is “real.” Mighty Hag is neither a woman, nor real.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:35 pmCan someone explain something to me? : how is it on truthout.org it says that Rove has been indicted but it’s nowhere on today’s news?
The Grand Jury may have already returned an indictment against Rove, but Fitzgerald may not have filed it with the Court yet, or he may have been filed under seal. The indictment does not become public knowledge until it is released or announced to the public. It is up to Fitzgerald to determine when the appropriate time is to announce the indictment. In the meantime, he can continue his investigation and attempt to get more indictments, and/or he can attempt to negotiate a plea agreement.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:37 pm#59 - Rove’s health is suffering due to his constant diet of fresh puppy blood.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
I would think the protein would balance out the sweet nectar of puppy blood. :-)
May 15th, 2006 at 2:38 pmMighty Hag is neither a woman, nor real.
Comment by Zookeeper — May 15, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
Agreed. Maybe we should call him Mighty Alexis Arquette instead :)
May 15th, 2006 at 2:38 pm#84 - Why are you being so mean to Alexis Arquette? ;)
May 15th, 2006 at 2:41 pm#63 - Zoopooper - I question the intellects of people who TELL me how intellectual THEY are. Of course being an intellectual is not a “bad thing”. Honesty is also a “good thing” - but face it - NOTHING Karl Rove says would satisfy progs - except “I have terminal cancer and have 20 minutes to live.” (Actually, that would probably be 19 1/2 minutes too long for progs.)
#72 - Krazy - Thanks for your concern - I play tennis.
Dear “Rowboat and Coffee” - Thank you for your critique.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:43 pmMe thinks Mr. Rove will soon be getting the spoon treatment in prison.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:46 pmUnless Rove is indicted and convicted after Bush leaves the White House, the chances of him seeing the inside of a prison are slim. Most likely a presidential pardon will be in order. I wonder if the right will be as outraged over Bush’s last minute pardons as they were over Clinton’s last minute pardons?
May 15th, 2006 at 2:49 pm#47
Please don’t use tossed salad and Karl Rove in the same sentence. I’m hoping he gets to fully understand the definition of that phrase, though.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:50 pmRove’s health - he had kidney stones, and had surgery for them a few months ago.
He may deserve five years in prison, but nobody deserves that.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:50 pmIt’s just the strangest thing: the words “arrogant” “fat” and “asshole” keep coming to mind everytime I see the Turd Blossom in action.
Hmmm…
May 15th, 2006 at 2:51 pmKarl Rove has twenty mintues to live!
Wait … let me get my watch!
One,… two….
Seriously folks, he’s been losing weight. The guy must have lost his appetite for puppies or something. If he gets any lighter, all that hot air is going to lift the fellow right off his feet!
May 15th, 2006 at 2:52 pmKrazy - Thanks for your concern - I play tennis.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 15, 2006 @ 2:43 pm
How? My friends and relatives with just two kids and a job barely have time to sleep. You’re such a liar.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:53 pmRove looks sweaty and will soon be doing the frog walk.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:56 pmRe the comment that Corn throws like a girl - you mean as opposed to that manly man Karl Rove right? Good work, David!!!!
May 15th, 2006 at 2:58 pmRove will never go down! He is a true blue American.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:59 pmFETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME- both of them.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:02 pmRove is my kind of bunk house boy. Fat, round and sassy. When me an the boys get him in the shower, we’re going to have a good ol time frog walkin him around introducing him to all our boys.
C’mon….squeal like a pig!
reeeeee….reeeeeeee!
only 10 more years to go.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:06 pm“too many OBGYNs aren’t able to practice their love with women”
May 15th, 2006 at 3:07 pmis a line out of one of mighty’s harlequins…
Krazy - Thanks for your concern - I play tennis.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 15, 2006 @ 2:43 pm
Tennis would be a good fit, since team sports would not work for you.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:12 pmWhen will Rove and the rest of them be EXECUTED FOR TREASON?!?!?!?!?!?
May 15th, 2006 at 3:14 pmHey M.A.! If you don’t like the attitude toward Rovian hijinks here at TP, why not go elsewhere? Maybe you can still find someone who thinks this guy is on the high road. I only suggest. You seem a bit unhappy with us.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:15 pmLove you Hugo!
May 15th, 2006 at 3:22 pmIt’s amazing how Rover and Rummy always make a dig at the reporter when they don’t want to answer a question.
Rover today: “Nice try”. Even when giving non-answers, they act like the a holes they are!
May 15th, 2006 at 3:32 pmSo, Gus, you old so-and-so, are YOU still practicing your love on women? Hope all is well with you!
May 15th, 2006 at 3:42 pmKarl Rove’s Top Ten Things To Do in Prison
10- Throwing darts at Patrick Fitzgerald’s photograph on his
jail cell wall.
9- Placing a woopie cushion on the Wardens chair during supper.
8- Singing the Purple Rose of Texas in falsetto at open mike night in the prison
canteen.
7- Watching Swift Boat Veterans documentary smearing John Kerry on endless loop
6- Reading Mein Kampf over and over in the prison Library
5- Placing tobasco sauce in the soup of anybody who calls him Turd Blossom.
4- Listenning to the Nixon Tapes on his I-pod while getting homesick for the good ole days
3- listening to Bush’s post 9/11 speech and getting more homesick for the good ole days
2- Having Tom Delay as a cell mate.
1- Farting when he bends over to “pass the soapâ€
copyright Beaugus Kridderz October 10, 2005
May 15th, 2006 at 3:43 pmre: james risser:
“i am voting for chavez in 2008!” I hope you’re joking. Chavez is about as petty a dictatorial nut as anybody else, including Bush. To request a 20 year reign, is an obvious sign of an absolutist thinker.
However, I am not knocking your disdain of Bush. I am pretty much in agreement that Bush (and the stringpullers) is as lowdown as they get.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:47 pm#102 - Thank you, solitaire, for your “thoughtful concern”. I apologize if I convey “unhappiness” - I visit here as a “public prog service”. This site would be so boring if you did not hve one or two kindly conservatives willing to overlook the intolerance of different opinions by some here.
#100 - “Tennis would be a good fit, since team sports would not work for you.” - Comment by Krazy
May 15th, 2006 at 3:50 pm*****It depends if you play doubles or not. It is a great sport for people who enjoy strategizing.
Don’t you mean stratergizing MA? That is the new word after all. Can’t have the dear decider looking like a dunce.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:51 pmFunny!
May 15th, 2006 at 3:52 pmA week after Valerie Plame was outed, Rove was telling Chris Matthews that Plame was “fair game”.
Then Rove lied to Scott McClellan telling him he wasn’t involved in Plame’s outing.
THEN Rove “forgets” to tell Patrick Fitzgerald that he outed Valerie Plame to two news organizations.
Rove has a selective memory problem.
Larry Johnson is also backing Jason Leopold’s claim and he’s as honest as they come. It’s lookin’ like a frogmarch is coming!
Turd Blossom and Hayden should be put in a playpen together. They both look like big Elmer Fuddian babies.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:54 pmHow the hell did David Corn sneak into the American Enterprise Institute? Was he wearing a funny nose and glasses?
Comment by shoeless — May 15, 2006 @ 1:41 pm
Yep. They thought he was Kissinger.
Anyone know what kind of documentation is required for a presidentail pardon? As in, is there a way to find out if one has already been officially issued. I’m betting Karl has a get out of jail free card.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:01 pmQ: Why is is you had Scotty lie and tell the American public you are not involved, when it looks like you eyeball deep?
A: My attorney made a statement April 26th (that has othing to do with your question) and I refer you to that (so I can get the F**K out of here
April 26 Luskin statement: “In connection with this apperance, the Special Counsel has advised Mr. Rove that he is not a terget of the investigation. Mr. Fitzgerald has affirmed that he has made no decision concerning charges. At the request of the Special Counsel, Mr. Rove will not discuss the substance of his testimony.”
This statement has nothing to do with the question asked of you Karl. He asked why you lied about being involved…………..Why did you lie? Why did you lie? If it was not illegal why did you lie? It has been proven that you are at least involved. Why did you lie-answer the question asshat!
May 15th, 2006 at 4:01 pmKrazny, I believe the correct word is ’strategerizing’, I’m studying bush boobonics as a second language:)
May 15th, 2006 at 4:08 pmYes, it does look like Karl has lost some baby fat. He is probably worried about he is going to have to eat when he is in jail. They’ll just love those little fat cheeks in the pen. Karl, it could not happen to a nicer guy than you.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:08 pmactually, krazny - it would be “stategerizing”, the verb for “strategery” (you left out a syllable)…
May 15th, 2006 at 4:08 pmThanks for the correction, I don’t have a bush to english dictionary.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:12 pmHope to see him in jail soon.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:20 pmDefinitely dropped some whale blubber. Must be from several weeks solid of arriving at home from his lawyer’s office and shitting himself.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:25 pmhe wasn’t arrested today because Thruthout forgot to mention he had 24 business day hours to pack his jammies, not weekend hours..Hopefully Tues or Weds for the most gratifying perp-walk I will ever experience
May 15th, 2006 at 4:39 pmRe #8: Like 9/11 these “tough questions” are carefully arranged theater. No punishment will follow. They are merely meant to passify us, to give us an impression that something is being done. Come election time, they will refer to these charges as “old news” trotted out for “political” reasons. Machiavelli has NOTHING on Karl Rove.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:42 pmRove is an attack dog for the neo-con element hell bent on turning the US into an outright fascist Imperium! This traitor deserves to be hounded out of power along with the other nut cases running this fascist regime. What disturbs me most is that a large number of Americans do not see the danger this darth-vader-in-waiting represents to the country. Wake up and smell the coffee or you will not have a nose for long to get the whiff of decay and rot that permeates our government!
May 15th, 2006 at 5:01 pmRove is the most dangerous man in America, because is is so good at packaging sound bites that voters can digest - aka mobilizing the base. All the blood in Iraq and elsewhere is on his hands. It will be good to get him locked up, because whomever he works for in an election will probably win.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:02 pm#86 - I question the intellects of people who TELL me how intellectual THEY are.
Comment by mighty aphrodite
‘nuf said…
May 15th, 2006 at 5:07 pmHere’s the latest from Jason Leopold. He’s sticking to his story. Karl is a goner.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:09 pmI did a fingerpainting in kindergarten and I have nothing more to add to that.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:29 pmLet’s see … Rove won’t answer the media’s questions, but his administration can listen in on the media’s and our most private conversations. What’s wrong with this picture?
May 15th, 2006 at 5:35 pmKarl is losing weight now so when it comes time for the prison prom he can get into that blue chiffon number that Laura gave him.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:36 pmI would be in favor of a public hanging of traitors like Rove.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:49 pmI can’t believe that you people hate Rove so much–for what? Leaking Valerie’s name as a CIA agent is not half as bad as Jimmy Carter dismanteling the whole CIA and we wonder why we have bad intelligence. Plus Ms Plame was about as deep an undercover agent as James Bond. I don’t think I have ever read so many stupid comments. Get a life. Go back under your rocks. FHJ By the way Unfit For Command certainly fit John Kerry. As someone who has been to Vietnam and actually stayed longer than 3 months (8 Plus months in combat) the words written about Kerry ring so true.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:09 pmI agree with many here; my first thought when I saw him today was that he looks sick.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:12 pmI hope his body is as sick as his mind.
People like him should be publicly humiliated and punished.
Bush can visit him in prison until he gets his residency there also.
PEOPLE… lets try this. please dont respond to MA’s phsycho babble okay? a few of us have decided if you dont respond she will go away eventually. she just wants attention be it negative or vitriolic so lets just ignore what her and IRI say. The minds are 1 can short of a six pack anyway! For honest discourse with a moderate or conservative i’d pick Tundra. even tempered and willing to take points without spewing crap!
May 15th, 2006 at 6:14 pmActually, Frank Johnson, you should return to the rock from under which you crawled.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:16 pmToo bad that 30 years after Viet Nam, you are not able to see the truth about your boy-king who went AWOL. Rove and his Swift Boaters first smeared McCain, then smeared Cleland, then smeared Kerry. You can think what you like about Kerry, but he was there - twice - and then came home to condemn the lies of the government.
I don’t know what you think you are defending now, but it sure isn’t the USA.
And, if Plame was not a covert agent working on weapons proliferation in Iran, why in hell would the CIA have jumped all over this?
Go away.
Frank how LONG WAS THE CHIMP IN CHIEF IN VIETNAM?
May 15th, 2006 at 6:18 pmFrank Johnson,how about the 12 months Kerry spent on a destroyer off the coast of North/South Vietnam?When he completed that tour,he immeditaly signed up for Riverboats to go back to Nam.But in your Kool-aid Breaks from watching Faux News/or Swiftboat Vets who Couldn’t tell theTruth,I guess since that fact wasn’t brought up because it didn’t fit in the litany of BS that needed to be spread,right,Frank Johnson?
May 15th, 2006 at 6:26 pmFrank Johnson - We, the few conservatives who come to play at this site, welcome you. but remember, you are dealing with many pseudo-intellectuals who still like to whine about Bush “stealing the election”. This from a group who forget to thank “Nader’s Raiders” for Bushs’ Florida win….oh well…
May 15th, 2006 at 6:39 pmMust be running…
#107
well, i would vote for a candidate that shared his sense of outrage, had his passion, and understood that the bush crime family is the worst thing to happen to planet earth since the gestapo… i don’t want anything one speck less…
i don’t think he is a ‘petty dictator’ since he has no inclination to expand his empire at the expense of his neighbors, admitedly, there are human rights issues there, but, none so great as our black-shirts.
i would rather have chavez than mccain or bush iii or rick santaurum or kyl or cornyn…
May 15th, 2006 at 6:43 pm#107
i see i forgot to link to this, for comparison….
May 15th, 2006 at 6:45 pmNo, Aphrodite, YOU can thank Diebold, the RNC, Katherine Harris and Justice Scalia for Bush’s Florida “win”. There’s absolutely none of us here thanking anyone for Bush’s “win.”
May 15th, 2006 at 6:52 pmAs to why the MSM is neglecting Leopold, the reason is obvious. Leopold’s reputation includes erratic reporting, misstatements and downright preposterous, half-crazy conclusions.
Ask yourself: If this same information were in the NYT would other news outlets be running it?
But don’t despair because of Leopold’s untrustworthiness. You also have David Shuster on your side. His prediction last week of a Rove indictment is—at least among his advocates in the upper and lower echelons at NBC and MSNBC–widely believed.
So, Leopold notwithstanding, though redemption is douobtless his, Rove’s days are numbered—with this his probable final week at the White House.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:57 pmA botanist I ain’t, but Turd Blossom appears to be losing his turgidity. This may have been his last public “official”appearance as Bushco’s brain. We’ll know soon enough.
May 15th, 2006 at 7:14 pmNice try Karl, but you’re still going to jail.
May 15th, 2006 at 7:18 pmThe fatboy HAS slimmed down. HThe sweetheart just wants to be more attractive, in case he does go to prison!
May 15th, 2006 at 7:23 pmDear Jane - Of course no one who voted for Nader in Florida will take responsibility for their vote - too many people these days love to shift responsibility. You may “blame” who you want - I still thank EVERY lovable Nader voter I can. If 95,000 Floridians (and we’re not even considering the convicted felon vote) had NOT voted GREEN - we would be listening to Roaring Al Gore tonite…such is life….
May 15th, 2006 at 7:35 pmThat asshole looks like a ghost in that picture. I hope he is afraid and is not sleeping. He’s done so much damage to so many people over the years, he deserves to suffer.
May 15th, 2006 at 7:42 pm“… would rather have chavez than mccain or bush iii or rick santaurum or kyl or cornyn… ” - Comment by james risser
****Unfortunately, the chronically unemployed or habitually lazy often prefer Communists to head their government - believing the “egalitarian” tripe they are spoon fed….
May 15th, 2006 at 7:42 pmIt’s good that reporters ask these important questions even if the administration won’t answer them as it informs the public what questions aren’t being answered. Vital information to a healthy democracy.
For too long the scoop and soundbite driven media have been wasting everyone’s time and money by avoiding the tough questions knowing they’ll go unanswered and instead asking fluff questions. Then nobody asks tough questions anymore.
Our MSM may have plenty of good people but it’s structurally flawed and no longer responsible to the people.
May 15th, 2006 at 7:55 pmSorry Jason
Monday :: May 15, 2006
Luskin Denies Truth of Leopold Article on Karl Rove Indictment
Robert Luskin, Karl Rove’s attorney, has officially denied the allegations in Jason Leopold’s article reporting Rove has been indicted and that there was a Fitzgerald-Luskin meeting on Friday.
I received the denial directly from Robert Luskin this afternoon.
1. Luskin stands by his April 26 statement in its entirety.
2. Karl Rove’s status has not changed. They remain confident Fitzgerald will decline to bring any charges.
3. There is “no truth whatsoever” to any of Jason Leopold’s recent stories about Karl Rove’s resignation, the alleged meeting in his office or the Indictment. The denial he gave me Saturday night was and was intended to be “all purpose.”
4. As far as he knows, Patrick Fitzgerald was in Chicago on Friday.
5. People should not interpret their “unwillingness to comment on every wild and malicious rumor as a change in position.”
As background, Saturday night I reported on my dismally failed attempt to get Robert Luskin to discuss Jason Leopold’s article.
Sunday night I reported the details of my phone call with Jason in which Jason expressed confidence his report was correct and confirmed that he would out his sources if it turned out they provided false information.
This morning I reported on my telephone conversation with Rove media strategist Mark Corallo and his full and complete denial of the accuracy of Jason’s article.
After that call this morning, I e-mailed Mr. Luskin to properly introduce myself, thank him for connecting me to Mark Carballo and apologize again for calling him so late Saturday night. He responded favorably. Just over an hour ago, he sent me another e-mail with the above denials. He also said his cat is better now.
May 15th, 2006 at 8:20 pmWhy is this news? A reporter did his job.
May 15th, 2006 at 8:21 pmThe real news is why that lazy bunch of job-fearing Washington Press corps haven’t been asking about and investigating this and other stories of the Bush/Cheney administration. How much solidarity will these stuff shirts give ABC and USA today when it comes out the NSA and CIA had been monitoring their activities to find out who leaked our government’s overseas kidnapping and torture atrocities?
My take — before he goes down, Rove will discredit Truthout, one of the admin most powerful unapproved news sources from way back when it was very courageous to be Truthout. And it was the only way WE learned the truth.
May 15th, 2006 at 8:34 pmWhat goes around comes around.
#112 - Preznit can’t pardon anyone unless they’ve been convicted of a crime. The key word here is convicted. First they indict, then they convict. If they can drag out the case (Abramoff, Ney, DeLay, Rove, name a republican) in court until the Preznit
May 15th, 2006 at 8:40 pmis no longer in power, then they will all be wearing a nice shade of orange.
Let’s hope David Corn will remember to say “Nice try” to Karl Rove when federal marshalls finally perp walk him to jail in handcuffs.
Maybe my perp walk fantasy will come true after all.
Mommy, is there really a Fitzmas?
May 15th, 2006 at 8:42 pmIf Rove is indicted, I propose a national liberal/progressive holiday, and on Rove day we only eat tossed salad with cherry tomatoes.
Perhaps a New Orleans-style parade; paper-mache’ figures of Delay, Cunningham, Ney, Cheney, Hastert, Frist, etc. ankle-chained together and doing the “culture of corruption conga†to the Tubes’ “Don’t Touch Me There.â€
Additional music provided by the Fitzgerald Posse, and the Backwash Boyz.
“C’mon down and celebrate the day Bush’s advisor was advised of his rights.â€
Comment by barfly
I don’t mind the tossed salad with cherry tomatoes. But could you please at least throw in some champagne or at least a glass of wine to make the meal more festive?
May 15th, 2006 at 9:18 pm“Nice try, though.”
Who does this punk think he is? When he’s in prison a smart-ass answer like that’s gonna get him a mouthful of blood and broken teeth.
You ought to practice being polite, turd-blossom, the new friends you’re gonna meet later this year don’t cut rosy-cheeked porkers like yourself much slack.
best,
May 15th, 2006 at 9:38 pmYeah, It won’t be long before blubberboy Rove looks like Ned Beatty did in ” Deliverance,” with some hairy hillbilly buggering his fat ass while telling him to squeal like the pig he is. You’re gonna love it Karl. It’ll be a little different though from your secret afternoons at a beltway motel with “Grandma Rottencrotch,” aka Barbara Bush.
May 15th, 2006 at 10:38 pmMaybe she can send you some worn underwear to wear in the showers. Those boys are gonna love you Karl, night and day. And when you cry and whine to the guards and maybe even the warden, they’re just gonna laugh and say, “Nice Try!”
95% of you are reading too much into this statement.
In saying, “nice try” he was simply acknowledging a f***ed up situation where he can’t extrapolate any further in fear of making it worse or more convoluted.
Don’t make it more complicated than is needed.
May 15th, 2006 at 11:11 pmKarl Rove has been working out in the White House gym to lose weight and get trim, but he still has a fat baby face > he needs a head transplant badly > lol.
May 15th, 2006 at 11:46 pmKarl Rove is now working on a new campaign to address what he believes to be the biggest problem facing America today- prison rape. watch your mailboxes for it.
May 16th, 2006 at 12:31 amNotice that aphro-dykie has taken over the body and mind of i-wrong-iwronger?
I assume that those whore-moans are taking effect.
Anyway, you guys assume that KKKarl is not used to having his salad tossed. He is a natural bottom boy, and bottom feeder.
May 16th, 2006 at 2:03 amWhy else would he be so “close” to dumbya?
May 16th, 2006 at 2:04 amIf 95,000 Floridians (and we’re not even considering the convicted felon vote) had NOT voted GREEN - we would be listening to Roaring Al Gore tonite…such is life….
Comment by mighty hypocrite —
What felon vote?
From the May 31, 2001 “Washington Post”:
The impact of the botched felon purge fell disproportionately on black Floridians and, by extension, on the Democratic Party, which won the votes of 9 out of every 10 African American voters, according to exit polls.
No one has proven intent to disenfranchise any group of voters, but the snafus have fueled a widespread perception among blacks that an effort was made to dilute their voting power in an election that George W. Bush won by 537 votes — a victory margin of 0.00009 of the 5.9 million votes counted.
A Washington Post poll, conducted in conjunction with the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation and Harvard University, shows that nearly half of all blacks believe problems with voting machines and ballots fell disproportionately on minority voters; 85 percent of those respondents believe there was a deliberate attempt to reduce their political power.
The U.S. Civil Rights Commission, which is probing the Florida election, in March called the felon purge and other Election Day problems “disturbing” and said the evidence “may ultimately support findings of prohibited discrimination.” A final report from the commission is due for release early next month.
Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and Secretary of State Katherine Harris, who oversees state elections, maintain that problems encountered by voters were unintentional.
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‘There Were Barriers’
Outrage over the felon purge and other Election Day lapses spoiled for many blacks a major political success. Statewide, black turnout jumped 65 percent over 1996’s, partly as a backlash to a Jeb Bush plan that ended affirmative action in university admissions and state contracts.
Blacks account for 13 percent of Florida’s voting population but cast 15 percent of the 5.9 million votes for president, up from 10 percent in 1996, according to exit polls.
Vivian Heyward, who helped register friends and neighbors in Tampa as part of a get-out-the vote effort by the NAACP, can’t get last fall’s election off her mind. The NAACP and five other civil rights organizations have filed a lawsuit alleging that blacks were disproportionately affected by the election problems.
“That was one of the worst things that ever happened in this city. . . . A lot of people are saying, ‘I’m never going to vote again,’ ” Heyward said. “Hopefully, we haven’t lost them.”
Black neighborhoods lost many more presidential votes than other areas because of outmoded voting machines and confusion about ballots. And on Election Day, complaints began rolling in across the state from registered voters whose names were not on precinct voting lists.
But poll workers could not get through to county election offices to verify voters’ status, and many voters said they were forced to leave for work before they could cast ballots.
“They weren’t expecting as many voters in those places as came,” said David Bositis, senior political analyst at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies. He advised the NAACP to focus on turnout rather than registration last fall.
Pam Iorio, the election supervisor in Hillsborough County, said a 50-person phone bank she added on Election Day was not enough. “When you have 6 million people who all do one thing at the same time, get a driver’s license, go to a ballgame, you’re going to have problems,” Iorio said.
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Mary Frances Berry, chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, said testimony at hearings gives credibility to the complaints.
“We know there were barriers to people voting,” Berry said. “What we don’t know is whether those barriers were the result of discrimination or knuckleheadedness.”
‘We Warned Them’
Clearly, however, one of the major impediments to black voting was the purge of the voter rolls. Florida has one of the nation’s strictest laws governing restoration of felons’ voting rights.
The state mandated the hiring of an outside vendor for $4 million to compile a list of voters who had committed felonies in other states. Database Technologies (now ChoicePoint Inc.), creator of an Internet service widely used by law enforcement agencies for investigative purposes, was chosen to sort through state and national databases to identify felons.
From the beginning, Database Technologies raised serious concerns that non-felons could be misidentified. Florida does not regularly record Social Security numbers in its records, so its felons were identified by name and date of birth, including close but not exact matches.
That’s how the state intended the plan to work.
“Obviously, we want to capture more names that possibly aren’t matches and let the [county elections] supervisors make a final determination rather than exclude certain matches altogether,” said Emmett “Bucky” Mitchell, who headed the state purge effort, in a March 1999 e-mail to Database Technologies product manager Marlene Thorogood, who had warned him of possible mistakes.
In an interview, Clay Roberts, director of the state’s division of elections, confirmed the policy. “The decision was made to do the match in such a way as not to be terribly strict on the name.”
In-house concerns persisted. “Let’s remember there is a liability issue in our erroneously identifying individuals as felons or deceased,” said George A. Bruder Jr., a company senior vice president, in a May 26, 2000, e-mail to Thorogood. “We need to be very careful in who we label as what. If we are unsure the default should be to NOT label them as anything.”
The company admits it made some mistakes. One list sent to Florida officials inaccurately contained 8,000 people who had committed misdemeanors — not felonies — in Texas.
People wrongly tagged as felons because of the loose matching policy included judges and the father of a county election supervisor. Also on the list were at least 2,000 felons who moved to Florida from states that automatically restore voting rights.
It was left to local election supervisors to determine whether residents of their counties were accurately listed as felons. With little guidance from the state, county supervisors devised their own rules.
Many counties sent certified letters notifying residents that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement had listed them as felons. People who did not respond were removed from voting rolls — a practice criticized by the civil rights groups that filed the lawsuit.
In places like Escambia County, voters on the list were required to prove to election officials that they were not felons. In Lake County, by contrast, Supervisor Emogene Stegall decided the list of “probable felons” sent by the state was so flawed that she did not use it.
“They’re not sending us what the statute requires them to do, so I feel we’re not bound to process those,” Stegall said. “They’re not sure. There are so many people who have the same name, same date of birth.”
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Many Florida legislators have criticized Database Technologies for accepting $4 million for what they consider shoddy work. But company officials insist the state caused the problem.
Staff writers John Mintz and Peter Slevin contributed to this report.
May 16th, 2006 at 2:37 amDavid Corn might well have effectively replied to Rove’s arrogant final comment, “good try”, by requesting permission to be the first journalist to interview him after he is comfortably ensconced in his prison cell. Rove’s long apprecticeship under Lee Atwater may seem to lend him a veneer of superior self assurance, but he is really that same immature college Republican youth/nerd, dirty trickster, and character assassin that George W. Bush admires so much. Rove was busy
May 16th, 2006 at 3:37 amlearning the fraternity dirty tricks trade when in college, while George was busy getting hammered on booze at Skull and Bones. Neither has learned to grew up. And that’s who we have running the White House. PATHETIC.
Me thinks santa is speaking bush-speak.
WTF?
For those of us paying for the rich people’s tax burden, and funding the Wal-mart employee’s health plan (Welfare)…. we have to work evenings and any time we can….
But we still know how to smell Bush***it.
dumbya was so less than impressive tonight on the tube…. but like Bill Mayer says… it is tough on a chimp.
May 16th, 2006 at 4:27 amAnd food for thought:
If the rich are getting tax breaks, the middle class (as it was) is funding all these grand dumbya-policies, then where the heck are the funds coming for these redneck guys guarding the borders?
And my second question, if they can’t shoot anyone or detain them then what is the purpose of having so called guards at the border?
May 16th, 2006 at 4:30 amHow could he “make it worse or more convoluted” by answering a simple question, and clear the air?
There’s nothing complicated about the “nice try though”. It was a defensive reaction to beiing what I’m sure he perceives to be persecution by the liberal media. But said in a snide school yard manner showing his awesome arrogance.
May 16th, 2006 at 4:43 amthe Rovester must be hittin’ da pipe again
May 16th, 2006 at 7:30 am