Rove On Bush: ‘People Like Him, They Respect Him, He’s Somebody They Feel A Connection With’
Rove On Bush: ‘People Like Him, They Respect Him, He’s Somebody They Feel A Connection With’
Today in his speech at the American Enterprise Institute, Karl Rove claimed that the most credible polls on President Bush are run by the RNC, and they are saying the American public likes him:
But the polls I believe are the polls that get run through the RNC. And I look at those polls all the time. The American people like this president. His personal approval ratings are in the 60s. Job approval is lower. And what that says to me is that people like him, they respect him, he’s somebody they feel a connection with, but they’re just sour right now on the war. And that’s the way it’s going to be.
Rove should look at some polls done by non-political organizations. They paint a very different picture:
55 percent have an unfavorable opinion of Bush. [CBS/NYT, 5/4-8/06]
60 percent have an unfavorable opinion of Bush. [USA Today/Gallup, 4/28-30/06]
52 percent have a somewhat or very negative opinion of Bush. [NBC News/WSJ, 4/21-24/06]
57 percent have an unfavorable opinion of Bush. [CNN, 4/21-23/06]
Looks like Rove and the First Lady are in denial.
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May 15th, 2006 at 2:57 pmDid I put the batteries in the right way ?
There may be one brain between them both.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:58 pmNo, let Rove keep reading his fairy tales. That will make November even easier.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:58 pmI detest the smell of others gas. Only my farts smell good.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:59 pmThey look like co-joined twins. At the head.
May 15th, 2006 at 2:59 pmFeed those Guppies Karl………..
May 15th, 2006 at 3:00 pmYeah, I like Bush like a sharp stick in the eye.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:00 pmThe man is an international joke. Some of his supporters do not realize there is a world that exists outside of the good old U.S. of A. and the only geography lesson they get is when America goes to way.
What would the world be like had Gore taken his rightful place in office?
May 15th, 2006 at 3:00 pmTweedle dum and tweedle dumbass?
May 15th, 2006 at 3:00 pm“I think I might have to go pee pee Carl. Can I Carl, Can I, can I go Carl, should I go now Carl ?”
May 15th, 2006 at 3:01 pmkarl meant to say that 60% of the people who approve of Bush approve of Bush.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:02 pmMakes sense. After all, the only polls Joseph Goebbels believed were the polls that got run through the Nazi party.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:02 pmRove obviously hasn’t found the shutoff valve for the stupid gas Laura Bush was inhaling.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:03 pmThis explains everything…… Now I know why George is in denial. Karl has been feeding him a lot of BS that people love and respect him. George should start reading newspapers and checking out the “INTERNETS”.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:04 pm
A lot of people like me. Should I be Prez-O-Dint?
May 15th, 2006 at 3:07 pmI think what he meant is people would like to tear the flesh off his bones.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:10 pmKarl’s just sucking up for a pardon.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:10 pmThere’s a better quote on CNN – Rove basically saying that people like W, they’ve just soured on the Iraq war.
This guy is in LA-LA land.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:11 pmCaption Contest:
May 15th, 2006 at 3:12 pm“EEK, Karl that tickles….heh, heh, heh!”
Bush is looking for his talking points to scroll across the tele-prompter embedded in the Back of Karl’s head… “what”… “what’s that”… “the terrorist hate us for our freedoms”… “but I thunked I got riddid of those?”
May 15th, 2006 at 3:13 pmThe only connection I would like to feel with Bush is my foot connecting briefly and rapidly to his genitals.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:13 pmRove said that polls are unimportant and then cited polls to bolster Bush’s approval ratings. Now there is an honest man.
-GSD
May 15th, 2006 at 3:14 pmCaption contest
Hey Karl does these pants make my butt look too big?
May 15th, 2006 at 3:14 pmThe ONLY connection I feel with GWB is the one between my wallet and his Oil Industry buddies. Thieves!
May 15th, 2006 at 3:15 pmCaption Contest,
May want to plug your nose Karl, I just released some methane from the national strategic reserve..he..he..he.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:17 pmLet ‘em think that way.
I think the 1st week of November will shock them.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:21 pmThat’s funny!
May 15th, 2006 at 3:22 pmBush says he doesn’t beleive in polls, yet he is the first pResident in history to appoint a political hack/dirty trickster to a cabinet level position. And this cabinet level political hack DOES beleive in polls.
America is a much bigger place than you left wing bloggers and your beloved pollsters realize. Just because the media has successfully shaped your opinions, you think the whole nation thinks like you. Most people don’t seem to care a whole lot about all this negative Bush stuff—only the Democrats, the media, and all you fringe kooks jonesing for your regular anti-Bush fix.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:22 pmPlug your ears, cross your fingers, and scream lahlahlahlahlahlahlahlah all the live long day…
Wow,,, get a life-
May 15th, 2006 at 3:25 pmMost people don’t seem to care a whole lot about all this negative Bush stuff—only the Democrats, the media, and all you fringe kooks jonesing for your regular anti-Bush fix.
Comment by Antagonist — May 15, 2006 @ 3:22 pm
Just keep telling yourself that, it may come in handy when the republicans are back to square one, and control nothing. As for you, America is a big place with a number of disparate views. One of those views, which has a growing consensus, is Bush and the republican party are doing a poor job. but please antagonist continue to make the bubble smaller and smaller. You are in the minority, if you think that you are not then you better start asking around.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:27 pmA connection? ICK!
People like KKKarl Rove? Maybe 29% of people, but not the rest of us smart thinking humans.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:29 pmClearly Steven Colbert has been running the RNC polls.
“Question 10 – George W. Bush: Great President, or The Greatest President?”
May 15th, 2006 at 3:30 pmCaption contest
“Hey Turdy – is that mousse behind your ear or you been polling Papa Bear Gannon again”?
May 15th, 2006 at 3:31 pmA definite trend on the blogs today: The same tired old branding of the MSM as liberal and discrediting the majority opinion. Sorry, won’t work trolls. You been there, and done that, one too many times.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:31 pmIcks!
But that is coming from Rove, so we have to consider the source.
Would you believe anything that Karl Rove says!
May 15th, 2006 at 3:32 pm$3 bucks a gallon says your wrong Agony…
May 15th, 2006 at 3:33 pmoops excuse me, You’re wrong Agony.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:34 pmHe could have saved a lot of time by just saying, “I only look at our polls and they show that America thinks GWB is really a swell guy.” Hell, just ask all those ultra richer folks. . . they would vote for him again on their way to the bank….!
May 15th, 2006 at 3:39 pmCaption contest
“So that’s what my thoughts look like”
May 15th, 2006 at 3:40 pmI think Ann has the correct answer… he knows his tushie’s in a sling this week with SuperFitz about to spring his trap… and needs a BIG favor from the Shrub-meister.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:43 pmDa’g Karl! What you been smokin? I want some!
You seeing flying, pink elephants too???
May 15th, 2006 at 3:44 pmJeesh. talk about creating your own reality…the problem is the other reality can overrun the created reality……that is what is happening….
Bush was supposed to be the honest adult. Now he, Rove and his wife don’t believe the reality that stares them in the face. The people aren’t liking you and your ideas anymore.
-GSD
May 15th, 2006 at 3:45 pmCaption Contest
“Look ma, no facts!!”
May 15th, 2006 at 3:48 pm“Most people don’t seem to care a whole lot about all this negative Bush stuff—only the Democrats, the media, and all you fringe kooks jonesing for your regular anti-Bush fix.”
Quintessential BushCo. Deny, deny, deny … then project ones own delusions onto someone else. Classic addict behavior.
This is why I am not hopeful much will change even if Rove is indicted in the next twenty minutes and the Dems take the House and Senate in 2006.
Rabbid fools such as ‘antagonist’ will be willing to shoot-up that one last fateful time, addiction assisted suicide, before they will allow a change of belief. Willing to go to the death over it –reasonable people will not– they will force upon us as well as themselves such destruction that generations shall pass before reason and enlightenment rule the day.
Expect no quarter.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:49 pmWhat would you expect Rove to say about Bush. Kind of a moot point.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:49 pmRove and Cheney’s days as free men are numbered.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:52 pmMost people don’t seem to care a whole lot about all this negative Bush stuff—only the Democrats, the media, blah blah blah
Hey, Ant, most people know Bush is an incompetent moron, but you don’t. What’s wrong with you? You seem to be more stupid than most people, maybe you should look into that.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:52 pmGee, we sure have been seeing a lot more of these crowds waving with the middle finger
May 15th, 2006 at 3:55 pmup lately, Turd. You say that means they really really like me, huh?
Master Blaster.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:56 pmA better way to treat this kind of statement is as republicans saying EXPLICITLY that they never intended to govern for the entire AMERICAN population, but rather ONLY for the republican population.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:58 pmthat waving with the middle finger is the hawaiin good luck wave.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:00 pmThese Nazis listen to no one but their own inner circle, scarry.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:02 pmKarl only listens to the polls that ask questions like, “Which do you prefer, George Bush at NASCAR, or an indefinite detention in a secret prison run by Lynndie England?”
May 15th, 2006 at 4:05 pmYeah, he is, if you’re a fascist, right-wing neo-con, homophobic nutcase. Hey that’s Karl Rove, Dick Cheney ( scratch homophobic for him) and the rest of the BA. Oh well.
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“karl meant to say that 60% of the people who approve of Bush approve of Bush.” –WaltTheMan
Clever, but even that would be a bold exaggeration.
Rove and Antagonist are demonstrating one of the 14 themes Umberto Eco identified: “Ur-Fascism is based upon a selective populism, a qualitative populism, one might say.”
May 15th, 2006 at 4:05 pmGee if you only look at polls run through the RNC, I can believe that only 60% of the people approve of Bush.
Consider who you’re polling. Rabid Republians.
Let’s see when Bush got elected by 50% of the voters, assume he had 100% approval from those voters. When his overall approval rating went down to 40%, that means 80% now approved of him. So I can believe the 60% figure, when the overall approval rating is hovering around 30% of the U.S.
So what are they going to do when his overall approval rating gets below 24.5%? That will mean that only 49% of the people who voted for him still approve of him.
If you start extending this to the percentage of register voters who actually voted. The vast number of people who don’t bother to vote, etc.
What would you guess Bush real approval is? 8%
May 15th, 2006 at 4:06 pmA majority in our poll prefer Republican leadership to having their guns taken, their flags burned, their churches razed, and their children turned into homosexuals. I think those are the polls Karl refers to.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:09 pmAntagonist = 29 percenter = backwash
May 15th, 2006 at 4:09 pm“Rove On Bush: ‘People Like Him, They Respect Him, He’s Somebody They Feel A Connection With’”
By people, please note that this refers to HIS constituency, the upper income 10%, and to some degreee to the north, south, east, and west.
• They like him because he has reversed fifty years of legal regulation on their activities.
• The respect him because he gives them huge tax breaks.
• They feel a connection to him because in their hearts they know he’s white.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:11 pmI guess Rove doesn’t mind being on the wrong side of history. a href=”http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/12/bush.clinton.poll/”>Public opinion is already jelling around the conclusion that Clinton was better than Bush on the economy, foreign affairs, natural disasters, uniting the country, and honesty (though that one was within the MoE). Misusing the National Guard on the border with Mexico to compensate for the misuse of them in Iraq isn’t going to help. Even though I’m still nervous about 2006 and 2008, I think Bush’s legacy will be one of incompetent corruption (or is it corrupt incompetence?). His job approval ratings are on the Nixon/Carter level, and to get out of there he’s going to have to either die or win the Nobel Peace Prize.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:14 pmHey, Antagonist. I live in Mobile f’ing Alabama, about as red a place as you can get. And Bush is not that popular even here. It used to be you’d get rude stares if you made a negative reference to Bush in the way people naturally do when they casually talk about the government. Not anymore. Letters to the editor and calls to the media from the kinds of folks who are almost knee-jerk reflexively Republican, the kind who despise the librul media and talk about Democrats the way you do — or used to — are getting much more negative about Bush. At the very least they think he’s an incompetent moron. And more are disagreeing with his policy positions, sometimes from the right (the immigration issue) and sometimes from both sides (free trade, privacy). Rove and Laura are living in Fantasyland. Me, I’d rather live in that alternate universe on SNL with President Gore. Unfortunately, I have to suffer through this one people like you and your pathetic leader have built. Thanks for nothing.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:15 pmThere’s got to be a lower bound. I heard in a recent poll 10% of Americans think Satan is behind the popularity of the book/movie The Da Vinci Code. I don’t know if they’re wholly part of the 29% or not; I’m just saying 100% concensus on anything is statistially impossible.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:18 pmAmanda “brilliantly” notes “Rove should look at some polls done by non-political organizations. They paint a very different picture…”
May 15th, 2006 at 4:22 pm****CBS, USA TODAY, NBC and CNN nonpolitical???? You must be joking bacause this is LOL (!!) moment!!!
Sorry, it’s 19%
May 15th, 2006 at 4:22 pmwaiting for the update…
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/index.html
May 15th, 2006 at 4:23 pmHah…
Karl needs to speak for himself. I don’t trust this Executive. I don’t like him. Not in the least. No way. There is nothing he has done to earn the trust back and plenty he has done to destroy any trust I might have once given him.
Hah!
May 15th, 2006 at 4:28 pmEven a recent fox news poll, had Bush’s popularity at what 32% or so?
Is it just me or are MA, and IRI sounding even more shrill then usual? I guess the knowledge, that they backed a losing horse must be upsetting to them.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:28 pmListen to what these people say. All of them. every sentence starts with “we believe”-and they never say “I/we think” anything. it’s all faith based to them.
I say, let them have their beliefs. we’ll make do with facts–esp the ones that say that 2/3ds of Americans DON’T like the lying sack of sh*t Chimperor.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:29 pm“He’s shockingly brilliant, stunningly competent and, gosh darn it, people like him!”
Will someone please indict this prick???
Bob Herbert’s “America the Fearful” is up, as promised.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:31 pmCaption Contest:
GWB: Mmmm, mmmmm Karl, would you take a look at the ass on Gannon?
May 15th, 2006 at 4:34 pmRove: So yummy I want to take a bite out of it.
Is it just me or are MA, and IRI sounding even more shrill then usual?
I was actually going to say they seem awfully quiet. I don’t blame them. After all, what do they really have to be proud of at this point? Bush is still a couple of percentage points better than Nixon before he got impeached? Yup, that’s a winner.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:41 pm#71 – We may say “I believe…” but it sure beats the “he//” out of “I feel….” – when progs start out mumbling that preface, it’s easy to turn off the interest in what they might say.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:44 pmThey must still be suckering someone , because that has to sound stupid to even him .
May 15th, 2006 at 4:49 pmCBS, USA TODAY, NBC and CNN nonpolitical????
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 15, 2006 @ 4:22 pm
As compared to Fox, the cheney approved non news, entertainment corporation…yes the list you ran is non politiocal…especially as compared to the BBC, NPR, PBS for actually covering the news.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:52 pmI don’t care what Rove says. A lot of people would also “like” to see Bush impeached!!
May 15th, 2006 at 4:55 pm#71 – We may say “I believe…†but it sure beats the “he//†out of “I feel….†-
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 15, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
Okay I will bite, I believe you are a hopeless fanatic, who would destroy this country in an effort to “save it”.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:55 pmit’s easy to turn off the interest in what they might say.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 15, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
If you lost interest – then why are you here everyday yapping and snipping about the ankles? You aren’t converting anyone. Just validating the claims about you neocon thugs.
May 15th, 2006 at 4:58 pmCaption
May 15th, 2006 at 5:00 pmPsst, Karl. Your fly’s unzipped!
Rove’s comments remind me of that notorious 1930’s phone poll (obvious bias — in 1932, only rich people had telephones) that had Herbert Hoover winning reelection in a landslide over FDR…
History finds ways of repeating itself, apparently in the same way the street finds its own uses for things.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:02 pm#81, KKKarls reply..”glad you noticed, how about telling Jeff Gannon I’m ready.”
May 15th, 2006 at 5:04 pmI don’t care what Rove says. A lot of people would also “like†to see Bush impeached!!
At a very minimum, 55 million would like to see Bush impeached.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:14 pmKrazy – I believe you are a hopeless fanatic who would see this country destroyed by radical Islamic barbarians rather than “save it”.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:17 pm#81 – Nancy L.,
May 15th, 2006 at 5:24 pmWhat’s the difference? Karl is a dick.
#77 – Clif – were you asleep when Dan Blather and Mary “I HATE GWB” Mapes were defending “memoGATE”? Or David Gregory grandstanding at WH news conferences?? To be fair (and balanced!), Fox does present a conservative viewpoint – if you don’t like their news presentation, you have plenty of other options. (It would give the MSM to much credit to label them “choice”.) But for people who were sick of CBS, CNN et al. we have a different option. I thought progs loved “choices”….
May 15th, 2006 at 5:25 pmTo read an analysis on what appears to be Republican infighting but is more likely part of a larger Karl Rove campaign strategy…link here:
http://www.thoughttheater.com
May 15th, 2006 at 5:30 pmKrazy – I believe you are a hopeless fanatic who would see this country destroyed by radical Islamic barbarians rather than “save itâ€.
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Project much?
May 15th, 2006 at 5:31 pmOnly difference is you’d rather see the country destroyed by radical Evangelical barbarians.
I would like to here her (MA) reasoning, on how radical muslim fundamentalist, could ever directly challenge both the government, and the people of the US, and be able to take over the country. Yes they can attack us, both here and around the world, but they do not have the power to change our way of life, or destroy us. Not unless we give them that power. Our constitution, and bill of rights is what has made the US unique for over 200 years. I don’t believe that a bunch of fanatics in the deserts of the middle east are capable of destroying us. We however are capable of destroying ourselves through fear and isolation.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:36 pmTrueblew – The difference between conservative Christians and Jews and the radical Islamists you are trying to “play off of” is the fact that the former don’t care if you believe what they believe or not. Christians and Jews are not going to chop off your head to strike fear and exercise control over a secular population. Go back and try again….this attempt of yours failed miserably. (I hope your self-esteem was TOO badly damaged.)
May 15th, 2006 at 5:37 pmMighty Hypocrite….. shouldnt you be busy making more white babies?? I’d rather ‘feel’ than ‘kill’! which is what your president is doing as we speak. Faux News is a foghorn for the conservatives. they get ‘MONEY’
May 15th, 2006 at 5:39 pmfrom repugs just like you do when you come here prostituting yourself! try picking up a book once in a while. it might broaden your scope a smidge!
**Correction** Trueblew – Last sentence in #91 should read “…not TOO badly damaged”.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:39 pmExcuse Me?????
May 15th, 2006 at 5:41 pmEvangelicals are trying to push THEIR AGENDA on the rest of the US.
It is YOU who are wrong.
Mighty Hypocrite….. shouldnt you be busy making more white babies?? I’d rather ‘feel’ than ‘kill’! which is what your president is doing as we speak. Faux News is a foghorn for the conservatives. they get ‘MONEY’
May 15th, 2006 at 5:41 pmfrom repugs just like you do when you come here prostituting yourself! try picking up a book once in a while. it might broaden your scope a smidge!
#93,
May 15th, 2006 at 5:43 pmNo matter how you phrase it, my self esteem is NOT hinged on your approval.
Really bad attempt at slander.
Pathetic, really. Like all the drivel you type here on a daily basis.
t-mooch – - People should have the number of children THEY can take care of – not their welfare system take care of. (Fox is conservative – in the media having the “whordes” of left media outlets and one or two conservative outlets is considered balance. Fearful progs hate opposition views but conservatives will take the odds.
“I’d rather “feel than “kill” – what a stupid statement. No one relishes killing – except Islamic headchoppers when the video cam is rolling – but sometimes it is necessary to defend a country to the death. If you’re a member of the “white hankie cut and run” brigade, obviously this statement does not apply to YOU.
Speaking of reproducing, gotta love Bill Cosby’s commencement speech to the grads at Spellman College….
May 15th, 2006 at 5:48 pmTrueblew – Of course you did NOT refute the stupidity of your claim about “evangelicals” – but you did mention how you FEEL about YOURSELF – LOL!!
May 15th, 2006 at 5:51 pmOMG – You really are psychotic!
Wow! The hate that spews from you is horrific. I truly feel sorry for you. You are a sad, sad, sad, human being.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:52 pmTrueblew – Of course you did NOT refute the stupidity of your claim about “evangelicals†– but you did mention how you FEEL about YOURSELF – LOL!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite
DUH!!!!
May 15th, 2006 at 5:54 pmLook at post 94!
You really are a pyscho who needs serious meds.
Clif – were you asleep when Dan Blather and Mary “I HATE GWB†Mapes were defending “memoGATEâ€? Or David Gregory grandstanding at WH news conferences?? To be fair (and balanced!), Fox does present a conservative viewpoint – if you don’t like their news presentation, you have plenty of other options. (It would give the MSM to much credit to label them “choiceâ€.) But for people who were sick of CBS, CNN et al. we have a different option. I thought progs loved “choicesâ€â€¦.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 15, 2006 @ 5:25 pm
Panties in a twist? even though we do not think you are a woman, we’re sure you still wear them, thge pink lacy type KKKarl loves you in….
May 15th, 2006 at 5:57 pmThere is cerainly a disconnect, as to the reality of this current situation, in the mind of Mr. Rove. Definitely prayer is needed to expose the true condition of this administration.
May 15th, 2006 at 5:58 pmKrazy – 200 years in the Muslim mind is not much. I agree with you that our unique way of life is strong but like all things, it is not invincible and must be protected. Several strategically placed nuclear weapons in the hands of President AmIdeadyet of Iran would have a devastating effect on America – and I argue that we would come under stringent and awful totalitarianism to guard against the “enemy among us”. I don’t want that outcome.
I view this time historically as similar in degree with the Civil War but with the increase in population, shifts in population, modern communications, and increased layering of bureaucracy, it is a wholly different time. I realize the IAEA and elBaradai are wanting to believe Iran – but for now, I am hoping Israel will NEVER knowingly allow Iran to complete such weaponry or delivery systems.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:04 pm#81 Nancy – Karl’s response, “Yes, George, but you’ll have to get your hand out of there so I can zip it!”
May 15th, 2006 at 6:06 pmDear Clif – Are you hoping I am a man to satify your “gay tendencies”?? Sorry to disappoint – foolish progs say they love “strong women” – they even have names for a few of them: Hillary, Janet, Madeline, etc. but we know progs LOVE women to be completely dependent on them and the largesse of socialized governments….
Naturally, Clif, you haven’t demonstrated the intelligence to switch the channel from FOX to a news outlet of your liking – poor dear!
May 15th, 2006 at 6:09 pmPEOPLE… lets try this. please dont respond to MA’s phsycho babble okay? a few of us have decided if you dont respond she will go away eventually. she just wants attention be it negative or vitriolic so lets just ignore what her and IRI say. The minds are 1 can short of a six pack anyway! For honest discourse with a moderate or conservative i’d pick Tundra. even tempered and willing to take points without spewing crap!
May 15th, 2006 at 6:11 pmClif,
May 15th, 2006 at 6:13 pmDo not take poor MA’s words to heart.
As I stated in a previous post, when she accused a male poster of having ED,
that she was once again projecting her problems – that time on her battery operated device that suffered from ED each time it was called into service.
Poor Dear, seems it’s happened again, and she’s taking her frustration out on the TP boards.
Iran is at best 10 years from completion of nuclear weapon, and any use of a such a weapon would result in the near total destruction of the region, I sincerely doubt even he is crazy enough to use one. Another factor not often considered, is the Iranian president is elected by the people of Iran, with the permission of some sort of ruling religious council. It is very conceviable, that Mr. unpronounceable will be gone shortly.
If you are worried about foreign terrorists smuggling such a weapon into the US, then we should beef up port and border security. We should also have an aggressive and mobile military force able to track and intercept terrorists around the world. We should also be working with countries to freeze bank accounts and funding. Furthermore, we should switch our energy dependence to something besides oil. By purchasing oil from the middle east, we are not only excasperating the very situation we need to avoid, we are also indirectly funding the very people who want us dead.
I also have issue, with the idea the we need to eliminate the basic freedoms granted by the constitution and the bill of rights. We can fight an enemy without losing our soul. Flexibility can be given to law enforcement, and intelligence agencies to combat terrorists, without losing the 4th amendment.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:16 pm#94 – “Excuse Me????Evangelicals are trying to push THEIR AGENDA on the rest of the US.” – “Comment by Trueblew
My apologies – It is YOU who are wrong – I do not hate you or posters here. (The few I choose not to respond to are viciously cruel and not worthy of my time or attention.) I do HATE radical Islamists and make no apologies for that – I won’t even wring my hands over that statement. I will excuse you (stupidity and prejudice are easly attributed to ignorance) but conservative Christians and Jews are not trying to convert you – please quit trying to secularize them.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:16 pmYou are right, meg_mac.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:16 pmI would have restrained myself from that last post had I read your post.
I usually ignore her, and I shall endeavor to resume my past behavior. Thanks for the reality check.
Mighty I only tune to Fox a couple times a day when checking how the different news and supposed news organisations are spinning a story.
As for the rest of your rant up the prozac, or what ever your doctor has you on…….
May 15th, 2006 at 6:20 pmTRUEBLUE…. :) . Thanks . we are just beating a dead horse. i want her marginilized out of here!
May 15th, 2006 at 6:22 pmNo need to thank me, meg_mac!
May 15th, 2006 at 6:24 pmWhen you’re right, you’re right.
And you are RIGHT! (wait a minute……. CORRECT!!!!!!) ;-)
Krazy – The estimate of 10 years is a variable – and again, our ally Israel will not put themselves in such a precarious position without some thorough “bunker busting”. I do not disagree with you about much of your statement – but considering the state of the world and communications, we should rely on 21st century legislation and update the FISA laws, the borders etc. as you correctly suggest. I would MUCH rather fill up at a Canola or Mazola station than a Chevron or Mobil. As I have said MANY times in this forum and others, the Saudis are no friends of the US. To be able to wave goodbye in my rear view mirror to the corrupt shieks and Communist Chavez is such a delicious thought!!
May 15th, 2006 at 6:28 pm#106
you are so correct! as i was reading through this thread from top-to-bottom, i was going to write the same thing…
odds are the hermphrodite is either a) mentally ill; b) a troll; or, simply an idiot…in any case, best to keep one’s eye on the ball and not dilly-dally with such miscreants…
May 15th, 2006 at 6:30 pmlaura and kkkarl can suck on hugo chavez’s POLL:
May 15th, 2006 at 6:35 pm
Caption
“I’m the Decider and I make the decisions. Remember that, Turd Blossom.”
May 15th, 2006 at 6:37 pmPeople respect Bush?!?
May 15th, 2006 at 6:42 pmKarl, I didn’t know you were such a comedian. Colbert, Stewart, watch your back! Rove is headed to comedy central.
Krazy – I believe you are a hopeless fanatic who would see this country destroyed by radical Islamic barbarians rather than “save itâ€.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 15, 2006 @ 5:17 pm
May 15th, 2006 at 6:42 pmThere is no difference between the radical Islamic barbarians and the radical Christian Fundamentalists. Both want to dominate and both are filled with hate and violence. No – I don’t want either to rule the world or this country. To hell with both of them because that’s where they belong.
#116 – ALL this from a “Chevezista” who swears GWB is a lying, evil murdering, war criminal…and still around to spread such concise observations. Please comment on the journalists Chavez has thrown in jail….if you can.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:45 pmDear Cats – perhaps you are comparing medeval Christians with todays radical Islam. Your sweeping statements cannot be supported with facts.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:47 pmhermaphrodite, i am not your dog and wouldn’t give you the sweat on my balls, let alone attempt a conversation with such a moron.
have a nice day!
May 15th, 2006 at 6:48 pmbbbzzzzzzzz, bbzzzzz,bbzzzzzzzz,….
meg_mac, james r., did you hear something?
May 15th, 2006 at 6:52 pmSeems there’s some pesky gnat here……
Jim???? I heard (perhaps erroneously) that when you have no argument you claim to have balls…I doubt it. Apparently the argument premise IS true…
May 15th, 2006 at 6:54 pm’til later….
… stringent and awful totalitarianism…
We’re heading there now – Chimpy, Cheney and Rumsfeld would like nothing more than a total totalitarian state – the US of King George.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:55 pmRove projects fantasy. I don’t think the idiots buy it any more.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:55 pmbbzzzzzzzbbbzzzzbbbzzzzz
May 15th, 2006 at 6:55 pmDamn!
That pesky bug again!
Bush is a sad joke. No one respects him. Not even Rove or Laura. They laugh at him just as much as I do.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:59 pmNo Karl, you are the one that likes and respects your man-chimp.
May 15th, 2006 at 6:59 pmNice try though.
oh goodie!
here is some potentially great news.
hollinger is famous for having two of my ‘favorite’ war-criminals on their board: Henry Kissinger, and Richard Perle…. so, with any luck, this will be ‘not just another neoconservative scandal’ and actually go somewhere good. looks like kissinger may have to be as careful about landing at o’hare almost as much as has to worry about landing in the eu…
May 15th, 2006 at 7:07 pmEven tweety called Roves bush is liked by 60% of the population BOGUS, losing tweety must have hurt the shrub since the shrill for MSNBC voted for the idiot in chief twice….
May 15th, 2006 at 7:09 pm“Damn! That pesky bug again!” – - Comment by trueblew
May 15th, 2006 at 7:26 pm*****You have my condolences – without compromising your privacy in this medium, I might suggest a good antibiotic if it’s a venereal problem or RID if your lice has returned…Good luck!!
BBBBBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!
May 15th, 2006 at 7:29 pmSanto,
read above posts.
We’ve been infected with a NeoCon Gnat!!!!
Very Annoying.
May 15th, 2006 at 7:40 pmTrueblue think your bug would voluntarily drinjk a couple of gallons of rid?
May 15th, 2006 at 7:41 pmLOL!!!
Great one, Clif!!
If we were that lucky….!
May 15th, 2006 at 7:44 pmThere were many “good” Germans who liked, respected, and felt connected to Hitler too.
May 15th, 2006 at 7:45 pmDon’t worry about guys like Atagonist. He’ll believe whatever he’s told to believe. Evenutally, as even the most ignorant of us come to see what’s really been going on, there will be voices that replace those of the Rush Limbaugh’s and Michael Savages. In fact, I’ve got it on good authority that Savage’s ratings are so bad that he’s about to lose a lot of his syndicated stations, and Limbaugh has been on a slow decline for several years.
So when the next guy comes along spewing hate, Antagonist will get on board. We should never worry about people like him. They are ultimately nothing without a strong leader (hopefully with a little brush mustache and shiny uniform). They will spend their lives moving from one talk radio host to another. But do something? Never. I’m guessing that Antagonist doesn’t even vote.
May 15th, 2006 at 7:45 pmKarl, Karl, Karl. Just because you say it, doesn’t make it so. Scumbag to the max.
May 15th, 2006 at 7:55 pmI can’t believe wingnuts are still using the “Bush hater” line – they really don’t know how controlled it shows them to be.
Anyone who hasn’t turned their critical thinking over to Rush, Hannity, Sabage and Fox and all their cult leaders knows that it is just a mind control technique to allow the cult of conservatism to ignore the issues being talked about. They have to make out like the person’s opinion is subhuman and below the cults reality.
The Moonies use the same technique. Just have the cult accuse the other side of being a “hater” or of not wanting to give father Moon a breakand the cult mind controlled can rationalize away anything.
In the case of wingnuts, they are conditioned to rationalize treason for instance.
Rove is talking to the cult. He means that when polling members of the cult of conservatism, they still love Father Moon,,,, er ah, Bush.
May 15th, 2006 at 7:55 pm133
Tony Snow is another member of the cult who is a SMMTB. A Sun Myung Moon Tittie Baby.
Snow not only helped Moon train the right’s minds – taking Moon cash for helping the right’s Savior push our nation right as their Savior, Moon, intended, but Snow traveled to Korea to speak before a Moon front group in 1995.
The Washington Times is the conservative’s mind trainer, funded with BILLIONS of bucks Moon swindled from the Japanese, targeting widows.
Sick shit but that is how they gained power. Without their Savior’s billions, conservatives are still called Birchers, theocrats, and fascists. Funny how the right absorbed Moon’s homophobic theocratic agenda.
Conservative’s like to brag about “winning” elections, when the fact is that without their savior Moon, they are nothing. Moon brags about using the Washington Times to “influence” our country. Of course he had to have conservative tools going along with his vision to do it.
Bow to your savior conservatives, he molded your minds and screwed our nation all at the same time.
May 15th, 2006 at 8:12 pmI didn’t read all of the comments so the queston may have already been raised….
Notice how much weight Turdblossom has lost?
Guess the stress of pending jail time is getting to him.
Or…..he’s just trying to look his best for Bubba.
May 15th, 2006 at 9:02 pmThe situation is getting more bizarre by the minute.
May 15th, 2006 at 9:13 pmHow can anyone with an ounce of sanity support this administration?
Rove has done a heckuva job describing the qualities that make for a great…. er, bartender.
May 15th, 2006 at 9:35 pmWhatever Karl’s been drinking or smoking, he should pass it around…that’s stuff’s SERIOUSLY powerful. Talk about La-La-land…
What I couldn’t get over was the fact that Karl apparently blames all of Dubya’s bad poll numbers on the War in Iraq. I mean…EARTH TO KARL!! Dubya is a one-trick-pony, and he’s been coasting almost exclusively on the War in Iraq for the past four years. The War is probably the only reason that his poll numbers haven’t collapsed quicker than this. The reason why Dubya’s poll numbers have held out this long is probablly because for the past four years, Americans have been bombarded almost constantly with the message (sometimes subtle, sometimes not) that the United States would be a smoking wasteland by now if it weren’t for Bush — that supposedly, he’s the only thing standing in between us and another terrorist attack and that he’s the only one who can stop them. you don’t have to look too far or think about it too hard to realize that this fear has been more than enough to encourage a lot of Americans into giving him their blind support. It’s only now, when the War In Iraq comes closer to resembling a second Vietnam with each passing day and when gas prices continue to rise, that the gilt is starting to come off the gingerbread…
May 15th, 2006 at 11:01 pmMaybe Karl already cashed in a while ago, he knew this was a possibility. He’s already got hi$ and the rest is a technicality (pardon).
May 15th, 2006 at 11:18 pmKarl Rove is out of touch with reality the same as Dubya Dunce Decider! 70% dislike Bush, but Rove thinks the 30% who are mentally retarded are the majority > lol.
May 15th, 2006 at 11:32 pmCaption…. Hey turdblossom…. your comb-over is weak! heh heh heh!
May 16th, 2006 at 12:01 amKarl Rove (and Tom Delay) do not believe they are serving 100 percent of the US citizenry. They believe that they represent the interests only of their “majority”. So it is quite consistent for Karl to claim that 60 percent of this population favors Bush. The rest of us, the other 50 percent of the US population — we just don’t count.
May 16th, 2006 at 2:30 amUh… Karl that works out to under 30 percent. Oh I get It! You were using your political genius to insult our intelligence. WOW you really are good! Nice frozen grimace by the president. Having a bad day? week? month? our boys are dying for lies! @#$%@#$#%
May 16th, 2006 at 3:06 am#147 Plunger, I agree with your entire post.
May 16th, 2006 at 8:26 amWhat do you expect to hear from soon-to-be felon and worthless liar Rove?
May 16th, 2006 at 8:41 amI thought that Karl was supposed to be “Bush’s Brain”. So he only pays attention to polls conducted by the RNC? What the %&#^? Are you kidding me? I bet he only watches Faux News too.
Maybe we shouldn’t be too intimidated by “The Architect”, since it seems he is living in a bubble just like Dubya & Dick. Of course, his pending indictment should put him out of commission for a while, but if he seriously believes that the American people “like” Bush he’s nuts! So what if the RNC pimps a 60% personal approval rating? Did they include ANY people outside of the GOP in their poll? How can that one poll by a partisan group trump more scientific and nationwide polls that put Dubya at about 29% approval?
Look, the whole “personal approval” bit is really meaningless. Sure, Dubya might be likeable in person, maybe even fun to have a drink with, but he is completely inept and incompetent as president. He simply is unqualified for the job! Too bad that voters didn’t figure that out in 2004!!
May 16th, 2006 at 9:45 amA public service announcement (for Mr. Fitzgerald):
“Cut off the head…
…and the snake will die”…
May 16th, 2006 at 10:10 amCaption contest……..Weird eyes and his streight guy………..
May 16th, 2006 at 10:25 amStupid Republicans.
I was thinking the same thing… Rove lost a ton of weight.
According to Truth Out Karl has been indicted already. He was served on Friday. Why is the mainstream media not caching up with this? It’s Tuesday and no one said a word… Could someone give me a plausible explanation? Did Bush threatened the media if they dare talking? Hence Karl losing weight. He’s shitting in his pants!
Caption Contest: Rovy did you make a stinky?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051306W.shtml
May 16th, 2006 at 10:43 amOf course Rove’s polls are right. After all, he’s been listening to all your phone calls.
May 16th, 2006 at 10:52 amRNC polls you have to pay the RNC to count your vote., I was on the Republican mailing list and recieved many RNC surveys, I only had to make a donation for my opinion to count. 60% is a low number for people who support the RNC
May 16th, 2006 at 11:36 amYesterday I listened to a young man on the radio who said it is liberals that hate America, and he used as his proof that his freedom of speech was being infringed upon because he could not preach for his hatred against gays. The Bush administration, and especially Karl Rove, create an environment for this to grow, against many, and pander to this hatred of all sorts and worse. We need to heal the Nation not pull it apart, how can one respect a person that is destroying our way of life. People are dying in Iraq, people died on the streets in New Orleans, people died in coal mines, fear is stoked, truth is no where. Character counts. He is not governing. He is biding his time and gaining power for himself and cronies. What is there to respect? What is there to be connected with? What is there to like? He has a job to govern all people of this country, and he ain’t doing the job.
May 16th, 2006 at 12:09 pmWe need to heal the Nation not pull it apart, how can one respect a person that is destroying our way of life. People are dying in Iraq, people died on the streets in New Orleans, people died in coal mines, fear is stoked, truth is no where.
Comment by Jack #163
Jack,
Precisely because SO MUCH damage to the stability of our fundamental democratic/humanistic values and principles has been done…
…by the criminal Bushite junta, their corporate co-conspirators and inbred base…
…America cannot be reunited until…
…there is some SERIOUS ACCOUNTABILITY…
…accountability for:
mass murder
war crimes
crimes against humanity
theft and corruption
erosion of civil liberties and civil rights
violations of the Constitution
cronyism and corporate skulduggery
incompetence
collusion
price gouging
electoral fraud
class warfare/ wealth transferrence
…’til Bushiva, L’il Dick Cheney and the architects of this foul regime are brought to justice (REAL JUSTICE)…
…there will be NO PEACE and NO RECONCILIATION…
May 16th, 2006 at 1:00 pm[...] A tip of the hat heads over to ThinkProgress once again, as they have a good quick refutation of Rove’s claim. Naturally, he only listens to RNC polls, which of course are going to be a liiiiittle bit skewed. It’s not that much different than doing a poll at a GLAAD meeting on whether or not you like the idea of gay marriage. [...]
May 17th, 2006 at 1:11 amGeorge Bush haunted by the ghost of Ronald Reagan …
(Welcome to everyone coming over from Sadly, No! The post Gavin referred you to, A whole passel of swoopers, is just below this one. Scroll down or just click on the link.) Karl Rove says the people like his boss. They don’t like the way he’s doing h…
May 17th, 2006 at 6:52 amWho would disapprove of a treasury draining, false-war profiteering, 9-11 “complicit” (we all know it goes deeper than being simply complicit – how about INTEGRAL) CONSPIRATOR?!?!?
May 17th, 2006 at 10:43 amPeople seemed to have forgotton, despite all the CSI watching, that the first questions asked in any crime (re: 9-11) are:
1) Who has the motive?
2) Who has the ability?
If CSI would research 9-11….well, we all know what would happen. That’s why FIVE YEARS later, they are releasing the Pentagon tapes. It took them a while to Dr. them up.
The OK City tapes (15 of them) could not be released either due to “national security”. Maybe it’s because the building expolded from WITHIN!! Again, who had the motive? Who had the ability?????!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!
I wake up everyday to this NIGHTMARE of knowing, knowing.
May 17th, 2006 at 10:59 amHow low can he go?…
Is George Bush Junior a Frankenstein president? Or perhaps he’s some weird manic-depressive mix of Stuart Smalley … (Read More)…
May 17th, 2006 at 7:41 pm[...] Seems it doesn't matter if people are satisfied with the President's job performance, only that the people like him… they really, really like him. If that is the bar Republicans are setting for President, then I have your next nominee. [...]
May 18th, 2006 at 10:45 amPapa- Very Funny stuff! I didn’t think anyone used the term “skulduggery” anymore, nice to see you bringing it back. I really liked the list going from “incompetence” to “collusion”…WOW, incompetent collusion. You had me at skulduggery….
June 14th, 2006 at 8:36 am