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		<title>By: Bank Business Plan Nonprofit Youth</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/15/thinkfast-may-15-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-4317882</link>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Warning! Your Internet Business Could Be Emptying Your Bank Account.&lt;/strong&gt;

Its a well-stated fact that most people involved in MLM or internet marketing are losing more money than they are making. The above statement is shocking buy also true with recent information suggesting that around %95 of all online business owners are...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Warning! Your Internet Business Could Be Emptying Your Bank Account.</strong></p>
<p>Its a well-stated fact that most people involved in MLM or internet marketing are losing more money than they are making. The above statement is shocking buy also true with recent information suggesting that around %95 of all online business owners are&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4317882', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 16:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 265 WaltTheMan:

I heard that.Keep up the good work.
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<p>I heard that.Keep up the good work.<br />
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/15/thinkfast-may-15-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-560100</link>
		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 10:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#264 - Denny,
This nurturing educator who administers tests or shows audio/visuals each and every school day needs to be set straight before she does permanent damage to future generations. I argue with her as a service to humanity. Besides that, it is a diversion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#264 &#8211; Denny,<br />
This nurturing educator who administers tests or shows audio/visuals each and every school day needs to be set straight before she does permanent damage to future generations. I argue with her as a service to humanity. Besides that, it is a diversion.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=560100', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 06:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>: WaltTheMan :

Why even argue with that know-it-all ?
All she does all day is sit behind her computer and tell herself,and others,how smart she is.Even smarter than her Mom and Dad and siblings, and everyone else to boot.
She is disrespectful and insufferable.</description>
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<p>Why even argue with that know-it-all ?<br />
All she does all day is sit behind her computer and tell herself,and others,how smart she is.Even smarter than her Mom and Dad and siblings, and everyone else to boot.<br />
She is disrespectful and insufferable.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=560017', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 22:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops - that &lt;strong&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;2% number should be &lt;strong&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;02%. Bad math day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; that <strong>.</strong>2% number should be <strong>.</strong>02%. Bad math day.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=559762', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/15/thinkfast-may-15-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-559624</link>
		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 20:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll state my opinion in another way. Knowledge is an acquired trait, intelligence is an inherited trait that may or may not be cultivated. MBAs and historians acquire knowledge, the intelligent create it. It&#039;s like the difference between trying to conquer Pike&#039;s Peak in a Harley as opposed to a moped. Both would do equally well in quicksand, but the Harley would excel in the hill climb. So I admit that environment is a factor, but resources also play into the equation. We are one species, but our genes make each of us unique. That is the reason that I used a gerbil as an extreme. Something like 98%+ of our DNA is shared with that little rodent. In humans, the difference is like &lt;strong&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;2%, but that can allow drift in many areas, including the ability to think (as in create new knowledge).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll state my opinion in another way. Knowledge is an acquired trait, intelligence is an inherited trait that may or may not be cultivated. MBAs and historians acquire knowledge, the intelligent create it. It&#8217;s like the difference between trying to conquer Pike&#8217;s Peak in a Harley as opposed to a moped. Both would do equally well in quicksand, but the Harley would excel in the hill climb. So I admit that environment is a factor, but resources also play into the equation. We are one species, but our genes make each of us unique. That is the reason that I used a gerbil as an extreme. Something like 98%+ of our DNA is shared with that little rodent. In humans, the difference is like <strong>.</strong>2%, but that can allow drift in many areas, including the ability to think (as in create new knowledge).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=559624', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 20:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt,

Don&#039;t act like Giacomo and turn something I said into something I never meant just because I don&#039;t agree with you.  I thought you were beyond that kind of approach.

Of ocurse there are physical limitations of the brain capacity.  I never said there weren&#039;t... Or thought I had to.  

We just don&#039;t agree,and there&#039;s really no hard core proof in genetics to validate or invalidate your claim.  I&#039;m going by the professional expertise of the psyhologists I know and have read. That within the capacity of human intelligence, a normal functioning brain is nurtured to success.  That, essentially, intelligence is a learned trait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t act like Giacomo and turn something I said into something I never meant just because I don&#8217;t agree with you.  I thought you were beyond that kind of approach.</p>
<p>Of ocurse there are physical limitations of the brain capacity.  I never said there weren&#8217;t&#8230; Or thought I had to.  </p>
<p>We just don&#8217;t agree,and there&#8217;s really no hard core proof in genetics to validate or invalidate your claim.  I&#8217;m going by the professional expertise of the psyhologists I know and have read. That within the capacity of human intelligence, a normal functioning brain is nurtured to success.  That, essentially, intelligence is a learned trait.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=559532', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 17:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unbelievable,
So if I nurture a gerbil in the correct fashion, I can create a new Gauss or Newton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unbelievable,<br />
So if I nurture a gerbil in the correct fashion, I can create a new Gauss or Newton?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=559302', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/15/thinkfast-may-15-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-559287</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 17:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt,

I studied Genetics in college for a semester.  At some point, recessive genes fall out of the family tree, while dominant ones remain (unless there is incest like with hemophelia in British history).  I would imagine that any genetics associated with intelligence would be dominant and not recessive as it advances the species.  So, by that awareness, if both of my parents were of average intellect - I could not be of high intellect.  Just doesn&#039;t make sense to me that intelligence is largely genetic.  I have to continue to disagree with you.

I&#039;m sure there are genetic attributes.  But ultimately, it is about nurture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,</p>
<p>I studied Genetics in college for a semester.  At some point, recessive genes fall out of the family tree, while dominant ones remain (unless there is incest like with hemophelia in British history).  I would imagine that any genetics associated with intelligence would be dominant and not recessive as it advances the species.  So, by that awareness, if both of my parents were of average intellect &#8211; I could not be of high intellect.  Just doesn&#8217;t make sense to me that intelligence is largely genetic.  I have to continue to disagree with you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are genetic attributes.  But ultimately, it is about nurture.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=559287', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/15/thinkfast-may-15-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-559282</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 16:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/05/16/math.science.girls.ap/index.html

&lt;strong&gt;Why do girls lose interest in math and science?&lt;/strong&gt;

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Low participation in math and science activities by girls is keeping them from achieving their full potential and weakening the nation&#039;s ability to compete, Education Secretary Margaret Spellings said Monday.

&quot;We need definitive insights into what goes wrong, when and why,&quot; Spellings said. She asked her department&#039;s Institute of Education Sciences to review existing research and determine why girls are not as well represented in the sciences as boys.

Schools have put more emphasis on math in the past five years because of the No Child Left Behind law, which requires testing and yearly progress in the subject.

&quot;This is all about global competitiveness,&quot; Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, said at conference sponsored by the Education Department and the National Science Foundation. &quot;We cannot do what we need to do to create high-skill, high-wage jobs for our country if we write off the prospects of half our population.&quot;

Government data show that girls fall behind boys in math and science as they progress through school. In the fourth grade, 68 percent of boys and 66 percent of girls say they like science, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

But only one-third of high school students enrolled in Advanced Placement physics classes are girls, Spellings told summit attendees. At the college level, she continued, fewer than one-fifth of engineering majors are women.

Former astronaut Sally Ride suggested several strategies for keeping girls interested in math and science, including involving them in after-school or summer programs. She also recommended introducing girls to women scientists.

&quot;Allow them to put a female face on these careers,&quot; she said.

Ride emphasized the importance of involving parents and preventing perpetuating stereotypes that girls are not good at math or science.

Spellings said mothers can inadvertently send signals to their daughters that math skills are not important. Educators must change the culture so it is not acceptable for women to brag about not being able to balance their checkbooks, she said.

A National Mathematics Advisory Panel created by Bush last month is scheduled to issue an initial report on how to improve math teaching by the end of next January and a final report a month later.</description>
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<p><strong>Why do girls lose interest in math and science?</strong></p>
<p>WASHINGTON (AP) &#8212; Low participation in math and science activities by girls is keeping them from achieving their full potential and weakening the nation&#8217;s ability to compete, Education Secretary Margaret Spellings said Monday.</p>
<p>&#8220;We need definitive insights into what goes wrong, when and why,&#8221; Spellings said. She asked her department&#8217;s Institute of Education Sciences to review existing research and determine why girls are not as well represented in the sciences as boys.</p>
<p>Schools have put more emphasis on math in the past five years because of the No Child Left Behind law, which requires testing and yearly progress in the subject.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is all about global competitiveness,&#8221; Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, said at conference sponsored by the Education Department and the National Science Foundation. &#8220;We cannot do what we need to do to create high-skill, high-wage jobs for our country if we write off the prospects of half our population.&#8221;</p>
<p>Government data show that girls fall behind boys in math and science as they progress through school. In the fourth grade, 68 percent of boys and 66 percent of girls say they like science, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.</p>
<p>But only one-third of high school students enrolled in Advanced Placement physics classes are girls, Spellings told summit attendees. At the college level, she continued, fewer than one-fifth of engineering majors are women.</p>
<p>Former astronaut Sally Ride suggested several strategies for keeping girls interested in math and science, including involving them in after-school or summer programs. She also recommended introducing girls to women scientists.</p>
<p>&#8220;Allow them to put a female face on these careers,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>Ride emphasized the importance of involving parents and preventing perpetuating stereotypes that girls are not good at math or science.</p>
<p>Spellings said mothers can inadvertently send signals to their daughters that math skills are not important. Educators must change the culture so it is not acceptable for women to brag about not being able to balance their checkbooks, she said.</p>
<p>A National Mathematics Advisory Panel created by Bush last month is scheduled to issue an initial report on how to improve math teaching by the end of next January and a final report a month later.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=559282', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 16:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unbelievable,
Your father carried genes from countless earlier generations. The same would be true of your mother. The exact mix that you inherit is bound by the laws of chance. When I said &quot;God throws the dice&quot; I was backward referencing Einstein&#039;s abhorrence of quantum mechanics and Schroederâ€™s cat (â€œGod does not throw dice.â€).  He was also an agnostic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unbelievable,<br />
Your father carried genes from countless earlier generations. The same would be true of your mother. The exact mix that you inherit is bound by the laws of chance. When I said &#8220;God throws the dice&#8221; I was backward referencing Einstein&#8217;s abhorrence of quantum mechanics and Schroederâ€™s cat (â€œGod does not throw dice.â€).  He was also an agnostic.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=559279', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 16:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt,

I don&#039;t believe in god(s), just nature.  Genetics says dominant genes rule (why I have brown eyes like my father and not blue like my mother).  So, if intellect were purley genetic, I would have gotten one or the other.  I&#039;m also much smarter than my father was.  By your premise, this is NOT possible.  And I see this with many students whose parents came form impoverish beginnings, but want more for their child - so the child is smarter than both parents.

Mozart couldn&#039;t be Mozart then if it is genetic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe in god(s), just nature.  Genetics says dominant genes rule (why I have brown eyes like my father and not blue like my mother).  So, if intellect were purley genetic, I would have gotten one or the other.  I&#8217;m also much smarter than my father was.  By your premise, this is NOT possible.  And I see this with many students whose parents came form impoverish beginnings, but want more for their child &#8211; so the child is smarter than both parents.</p>
<p>Mozart couldn&#8217;t be Mozart then if it is genetic&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=559228', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/15/thinkfast-may-15-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-559168</link>
		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 15:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unbelievable,
You got half of your neurological mix from your mother and half from your father. There is no reason that your intellect should exactly match either parent. In this case, God throws the dice when thousands of sperm pursue a single egg. There is a 53% probability that you could have been born male. How rapidly the neurons interconnect and how frequently they connect is a matter of the luck of the draw. That&#039;s the reason for Mozart. In most cases the brain peaks at puberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unbelievable,<br />
You got half of your neurological mix from your mother and half from your father. There is no reason that your intellect should exactly match either parent. In this case, God throws the dice when thousands of sperm pursue a single egg. There is a 53% probability that you could have been born male. How rapidly the neurons interconnect and how frequently they connect is a matter of the luck of the draw. That&#8217;s the reason for Mozart. In most cases the brain peaks at puberty.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=559168', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/15/thinkfast-may-15-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-559107</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 15:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt,

You can assume the conditions were identical, but I would be the ranch that they were not.  Your study is an isolated study out of all studies done.  There have been decades of research with thousands of children.  I tend to give them more validity.  Sorry.  I know you know a lot about a lot of things, but my personal preoccupation with psychology disagrees with your post.

There&#039;s also a variable in which the eldest tends to have the highest I.Q., and that subsequent children have decreasing I.Q.s.  The premise is that the first born child has the attention of two parents, where as subsequent children have divided input.  In my family this held true.  I have the highest I.Q., second brother has the seconf highest and youngest has the lowest.  If it were nature, all three of us would have similar I.Q.&#039;s and would not be typical of the study - but rather an anomoly.

Most psychologists tend to beliefe it is nurture that sets intelligence and not nature - although there are always exceptions.  And there are certainly things that can occur (such as dietary deficiencies) to affect it.  But generally - intelligence occurs during the first 5-6 years of life when the child&#039;s brain is still devoloping (we are born before our brains fully develop so that we can be born because they have evolved beyond the birth canal), and critical thinking is introduced - in varying degrees of course.

A child whose parents do and tell the child everything are establishing no critical thinking patterns in behavior.  Parents who gradually allow their children to think for themselves are setting an excellent foundation.  My mother was the latter, and I am significantly smarter than she is.  She was not raised the way she raised me, and my afther worked nights so he was not much of an influence.  Had it been genetic, then I could not be smarter than she is.  She raised me to be a critical thinker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,</p>
<p>You can assume the conditions were identical, but I would be the ranch that they were not.  Your study is an isolated study out of all studies done.  There have been decades of research with thousands of children.  I tend to give them more validity.  Sorry.  I know you know a lot about a lot of things, but my personal preoccupation with psychology disagrees with your post.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a variable in which the eldest tends to have the highest I.Q., and that subsequent children have decreasing I.Q.s.  The premise is that the first born child has the attention of two parents, where as subsequent children have divided input.  In my family this held true.  I have the highest I.Q., second brother has the seconf highest and youngest has the lowest.  If it were nature, all three of us would have similar I.Q.&#8217;s and would not be typical of the study &#8211; but rather an anomoly.</p>
<p>Most psychologists tend to beliefe it is nurture that sets intelligence and not nature &#8211; although there are always exceptions.  And there are certainly things that can occur (such as dietary deficiencies) to affect it.  But generally &#8211; intelligence occurs during the first 5-6 years of life when the child&#8217;s brain is still devoloping (we are born before our brains fully develop so that we can be born because they have evolved beyond the birth canal), and critical thinking is introduced &#8211; in varying degrees of course.</p>
<p>A child whose parents do and tell the child everything are establishing no critical thinking patterns in behavior.  Parents who gradually allow their children to think for themselves are setting an excellent foundation.  My mother was the latter, and I am significantly smarter than she is.  She was not raised the way she raised me, and my afther worked nights so he was not much of an influence.  Had it been genetic, then I could not be smarter than she is.  She raised me to be a critical thinker.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=559107', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 13:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unbelievable,
There were about 30 families in the support group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unbelievable,<br />
There were about 30 families in the support group.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=558996', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Briseadh na Faire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Briseadh na Faire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 13:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt,

if we accept the nature v. nurture argument, that nature defines and delimits our capacities, then we undermine the very premise of No Child Left Behind, which mandates that &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;every&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; child reaches the Proficient plateau, regardless of nature.

Again, No Child Left Behind really means No School Will Succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,</p>
<p>if we accept the nature v. nurture argument, that nature defines and delimits our capacities, then we undermine the very premise of No Child Left Behind, which mandates that <em><strong>every</strong></em> child reaches the Proficient plateau, regardless of nature.</p>
<p>Again, No Child Left Behind really means No School Will Succeed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=558995', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 13:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;(I can be sure about this for my family and believe it was so in the others,) 
Comment by WaltTheMan â€” May 16, 2006 @ 9:32 am &lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s one isolated incident.  It doesn&#039;t define all others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>(I can be sure about this for my family and believe it was so in the others,)<br />
Comment by WaltTheMan â€” May 16, 2006 @ 9:32 am </em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s one isolated incident.  It doesn&#8217;t define all others.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=558976', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 13:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unbelievable,
I disagree. I am from a family where paternal triplets were born. They did not share the exact same gene set as they were not identical. Each had a different rational threshold. Because of our circumstances, I was also introduced to other multiple birth families and observed the same phenomenon in non-identical triplets and twins. In every case, the children were raised under identical conditions (I can be sure about this for my family and believe it was so in the others,)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unbelievable,<br />
I disagree. I am from a family where paternal triplets were born. They did not share the exact same gene set as they were not identical. Each had a different rational threshold. Because of our circumstances, I was also introduced to other multiple birth families and observed the same phenomenon in non-identical triplets and twins. In every case, the children were raised under identical conditions (I can be sure about this for my family and believe it was so in the others,)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=558967', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 13:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yes, but your meat eating freinds are prob. how I was about 3 weeks ago, meats cheeses and grains, basically no fruits or vegtables.
Comment by squegeeboo â€” May 16, 2006 @ 8:50 am &lt;/em&gt;

Nope.  They are omnivores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yes, but your meat eating freinds are prob. how I was about 3 weeks ago, meats cheeses and grains, basically no fruits or vegtables.<br />
Comment by squegeeboo â€” May 16, 2006 @ 8:50 am </em></p>
<p>Nope.  They are omnivores.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=558939', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: squegeeboo</title>
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		<dc:creator>squegeeboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 12:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As a vegan, I am far healthier than my meat eating friends. &quot;

Yes, but your meat eating freinds are prob. how I was about 3 weeks ago, meats cheeses and grains, basically no fruits or vegtables.
(Since then I&#039;ve added in fruit, hopefully veggies in a few weeks)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As a vegan, I am far healthier than my meat eating friends. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but your meat eating freinds are prob. how I was about 3 weeks ago, meats cheeses and grains, basically no fruits or vegtables.<br />
(Since then I&#8217;ve added in fruit, hopefully veggies in a few weeks)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=558933', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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