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	<title>Comments on: Memorandum To Tony Snow On The Use Of The Term &#8216;Tar Baby&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; McCain on &#8216;getting into a tar baby.&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-2231152</link>
		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; McCain on &#8216;getting into a tar baby.&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] because doing so would be &#8216;getting into a tar baby of enormous proportions.&#8217;&#8221; (Memo to McCain: The expression tar baby is a racial slur &#8220;used occasionally as a derogatory term for black [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] because doing so would be &#8216;getting into a tar baby of enormous proportions.&#8217;&#8221; (Memo to McCain: The expression tar baby is a racial slur &#8220;used occasionally as a derogatory term for black [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2231152', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-1274919</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was a bit &quot;niggardly&quot; of him to use the term &quot;tar baby&quot;, but not racist.

this administration is responsible for so much death and destruction, and people are upset about a choice of words.

makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was a bit &#8220;niggardly&#8221; of him to use the term &#8220;tar baby&#8221;, but not racist.</p>
<p>this administration is responsible for so much death and destruction, and people are upset about a choice of words.</p>
<p>makes sense.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1274919', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jerryb</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-1160495</link>
		<dc:creator>jerryb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>33 - &quot;I didnâ€™t know there was one, and Iâ€™m both smart and educated. How can you expect it of society as a whole then?&quot;

So you expect more from others than from yourself? CAN YOU HEAR YOURSELF?
This is the DEFINITION of P.C.; to prefer the controversial connotation over the denotation simply because it inflames.
Idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>33 &#8211; &#8220;I didnâ€™t know there was one, and Iâ€™m both smart and educated. How can you expect it of society as a whole then?&#8221;</p>
<p>So you expect more from others than from yourself? CAN YOU HEAR YOURSELF?<br />
This is the DEFINITION of P.C.; to prefer the controversial connotation over the denotation simply because it inflames.<br />
Idiots.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1160495', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ThinkProgressShouldGetABrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-987971</link>
		<dc:creator>ThinkProgressShouldGetABrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 04:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read above, &quot;But in â€œAmerican lore,â€ the expression tar baby is also a racial slur â€œused occasionally as a derogatory term for black people.â€ &quot;

Now exactly what &quot;lore&quot; is that? Is that from an  American oral-tradition folk tale or a old folk song from the Delta? Nope! I don&#039;t think we are talking about lore here. I think we are just talking about usage (actually misusage) of a term, and mostly I gather by certain African Americans who for some reason think it is significant that they happen to be a shade lighter-skinned than someone else.

That isn&#039;t lore, that&#039;s just perversion of lore--perversion of a legitimate folk tale that exists in many variations across West Africa--and the destruction of one more little piece of African American history and ethnology. The Tar Baby story communicates wisdom about traps and inextricable situations. It has not one single thing to do with skin color. 

But avoid the term completely! Strike it from your vocabulary and your memory! And also never use the word &quot;niggardly&quot; to refer to stinginess. Because if you say any of these things, you may inadvertently get all wrapped around and tangled up with uneducated fools who think that somehow every thing in the world   refers covertly to race and skin color. And that is just a big Tar Baby you must avoid at all cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read above, &#8220;But in â€œAmerican lore,â€ the expression tar baby is also a racial slur â€œused occasionally as a derogatory term for black people.â€ &#8221;</p>
<p>Now exactly what &#8220;lore&#8221; is that? Is that from an  American oral-tradition folk tale or a old folk song from the Delta? Nope! I don&#8217;t think we are talking about lore here. I think we are just talking about usage (actually misusage) of a term, and mostly I gather by certain African Americans who for some reason think it is significant that they happen to be a shade lighter-skinned than someone else.</p>
<p>That isn&#8217;t lore, that&#8217;s just perversion of lore&#8211;perversion of a legitimate folk tale that exists in many variations across West Africa&#8211;and the destruction of one more little piece of African American history and ethnology. The Tar Baby story communicates wisdom about traps and inextricable situations. It has not one single thing to do with skin color. </p>
<p>But avoid the term completely! Strike it from your vocabulary and your memory! And also never use the word &#8220;niggardly&#8221; to refer to stinginess. Because if you say any of these things, you may inadvertently get all wrapped around and tangled up with uneducated fools who think that somehow every thing in the world   refers covertly to race and skin color. And that is just a big Tar Baby you must avoid at all cost.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=987971', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The A-Team &#187; What if a Republican had said this?</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-890357</link>
		<dc:creator>The A-Team &#187; What if a Republican had said this?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, that just isn&#8217;t a hypothetical. See the liberal conniption fit when Tony Snow used this term back in May. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Well, that just isn&#8217;t a hypothetical. See the liberal conniption fit when Tony Snow used this term back in May. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=890357', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Reno and Its Discontents&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Condi Rice: International Best Dressed List</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-703837</link>
		<dc:creator>Reno and Its Discontents&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Condi Rice: International Best Dressed List</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When Condi&#8217;s all buttoned up in red, you know she means business. Watch out Helen Thomas&#8211;Condi doesnt suffer any fools and won&#8217;t hug the tar baby. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When Condi&#8217;s all buttoned up in red, you know she means business. Watch out Helen Thomas&#8211;Condi doesnt suffer any fools and won&#8217;t hug the tar baby. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=703837', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MoveOnMorons</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-703570</link>
		<dc:creator>MoveOnMorons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Boston Globe has used the term in at least two editorials, reports the Boston Herald&#039;s Victoria Buckingham: &quot; In a 1994 editorial, the Globe described U.S. dealings with Iran as resembling a &#039;tar baby&#039; and even articulated the term&#039;s assumed meaning in a 1998 editorial on China&#039;s censoring of the Internet: &#039;The Communist rulers of Beijing ended last year tangling with a tar baby. The tar baby--passive, sticky and invincible--was played by the Internet, which the leaders want to censor.&#039; &quot; (The Herald also referred to the Big Dig as a &quot;tar baby&quot; in a 2004 editorial.)


Ditzy left-wing columnist Molly Ivins wrote in October 2001, &quot;It now looks, with 20-20 hindsight, as though he should have taken a few more deep breaths before smacking that tar-baby that is Afghanistan.&quot;


In a 2003 interview with the Boston Globe, John Kerry described 1992 hearings on missing soldiers in Vietnam as a political &quot;tar baby.&quot;


This past May, White House press secretary Tony Snow said of a program to monitor terrorist communication, &quot;I don&#039;t want to hug the tar baby of trying to comment on the program--the alleged program--the existence of which I can neither confirm nor deny.


The athletic teams at California&#039;s Compton High School are called the Tarbabes. (The population of Compton is more than 40% black.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Boston Globe has used the term in at least two editorials, reports the Boston Herald&#8217;s Victoria Buckingham: &#8221; In a 1994 editorial, the Globe described U.S. dealings with Iran as resembling a &#8216;tar baby&#8217; and even articulated the term&#8217;s assumed meaning in a 1998 editorial on China&#8217;s censoring of the Internet: &#8216;The Communist rulers of Beijing ended last year tangling with a tar baby. The tar baby&#8211;passive, sticky and invincible&#8211;was played by the Internet, which the leaders want to censor.&#8217; &#8221; (The Herald also referred to the Big Dig as a &#8220;tar baby&#8221; in a 2004 editorial.)</p>
<p>Ditzy left-wing columnist Molly Ivins wrote in October 2001, &#8220;It now looks, with 20-20 hindsight, as though he should have taken a few more deep breaths before smacking that tar-baby that is Afghanistan.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a 2003 interview with the Boston Globe, John Kerry described 1992 hearings on missing soldiers in Vietnam as a political &#8220;tar baby.&#8221;</p>
<p>This past May, White House press secretary Tony Snow said of a program to monitor terrorist communication, &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to hug the tar baby of trying to comment on the program&#8211;the alleged program&#8211;the existence of which I can neither confirm nor deny.</p>
<p>The athletic teams at California&#8217;s Compton High School are called the Tarbabes. (The population of Compton is more than 40% black.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=703570', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Don Meaker</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-699497</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Meaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My discussion of this subject will be niggardly.

If an atheist is offended by my use of the term &quot;in Jesus Name&quot; must I not use it?

If a Racist is offended by my use of the Term &quot;equal opportunity&quot; must I not use it?

If a Muslim is offended by my use of the term &quot;Mohammed, the pedofile prophet&quot;, must I not use it?

If a Jew is offended by a Muslim&#039;s use of of the term &quot;Decendents of apes&quot; is he forbidden to use that term?

I should be obvious that the use by Tony Snow of the Tarbaby term refers to the Brer Rabbit story. It is a common enough story, Disney made millions off it (though will not rerelease &quot;Song of the South&quot; now).

That a racist subminority once used a term as a derogatory does not poison the wonderfully descriptive term. Rather the people who would reject a wonderful story from our common black/african heritage are revealing their Racism.

Projection. It has a cure: Honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My discussion of this subject will be niggardly.</p>
<p>If an atheist is offended by my use of the term &#8220;in Jesus Name&#8221; must I not use it?</p>
<p>If a Racist is offended by my use of the Term &#8220;equal opportunity&#8221; must I not use it?</p>
<p>If a Muslim is offended by my use of the term &#8220;Mohammed, the pedofile prophet&#8221;, must I not use it?</p>
<p>If a Jew is offended by a Muslim&#8217;s use of of the term &#8220;Decendents of apes&#8221; is he forbidden to use that term?</p>
<p>I should be obvious that the use by Tony Snow of the Tarbaby term refers to the Brer Rabbit story. It is a common enough story, Disney made millions off it (though will not rerelease &#8220;Song of the South&#8221; now).</p>
<p>That a racist subminority once used a term as a derogatory does not poison the wonderfully descriptive term. Rather the people who would reject a wonderful story from our common black/african heritage are revealing their Racism.</p>
<p>Projection. It has a cure: Honesty.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=699497', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-698498</link>
		<dc:creator>JW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But in â€œAmerican lore,â€ the expression tar baby is also a racial slur â€œused occasionally as a derogatory term for black people&quot;

Uh, the it should be VERY easy to produce such evidence. But one problem... there is no such evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But in â€œAmerican lore,â€ the expression tar baby is also a racial slur â€œused occasionally as a derogatory term for black people&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, the it should be VERY easy to produce such evidence. But one problem&#8230; there is no such evidence.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=698498', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SAT</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-698231</link>
		<dc:creator>SAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But we call our Children KIDS (baby goats), some cookies CRACKERS, Homosexuals are now Gay, Blacks can use the &quot;N&quot; word, 
I guess if you control the meaning of words you have control over the rest of us who are not as smart and &quot;progressiveâ€?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But we call our Children KIDS (baby goats), some cookies CRACKERS, Homosexuals are now Gay, Blacks can use the &#8220;N&#8221; word,<br />
I guess if you control the meaning of words you have control over the rest of us who are not as smart and &#8220;progressiveâ€?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=698231', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Crooks and Liars &#187; Tony Snow: Tar babies&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-687218</link>
		<dc:creator>Crooks and Liars &#187; Tony Snow: Tar babies&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 06:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Video-WMP Video-QT (rough transcript) CBS REPORTER: Why not declassify [the NSA&#8217;s call records database]? I mean, the President did talk about the surveillance program a day after the New York Times broke that story. This would seem to affect far more people and it did sound like the President was confirming that story today when he was answering questions. &#160; SNOW: If you go back and look through what he said, there was a reference of foreign to domestic calls. I am not going to stand up here and presume to declassify any kind of program. That is a decision the President has to make. I can&#8217;t confirm or deny it. The President was not confirming or denying. Again, I would take you back to the USA Today story to give you a little context. Look at the poll that appeared the following day [&#8230;] something like 65% of the public was not troubled by it. Having said that, I don&#8217;t want to hug the tar baby of trying to comment on the program&#8230; the alleged program, the existence of which I can neither confirm or deny. &#160; I asked Judd at Think Progress about it and he agreed.&#160;TP then explains to Tony the problem with using that term: &#160; Based on the context of the term, we believe you meant tar baby to mean: &quot;a situation almost impossible to get out of; a problem virtually unsolvable.&quot; &#160; But in &quot;American lore,&quot; the expression tar baby is also a racial slur &quot;used occasionally as a derogatory term for black people.&quot; Use of the term has resulted in people being fired. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Video-WMP Video-QT (rough transcript) CBS REPORTER: Why not declassify [the NSA&#8217;s call records database]? I mean, the President did talk about the surveillance program a day after the New York Times broke that story. This would seem to affect far more people and it did sound like the President was confirming that story today when he was answering questions. &nbsp; SNOW: If you go back and look through what he said, there was a reference of foreign to domestic calls. I am not going to stand up here and presume to declassify any kind of program. That is a decision the President has to make. I can&#8217;t confirm or deny it. The President was not confirming or denying. Again, I would take you back to the USA Today story to give you a little context. Look at the poll that appeared the following day [&#8230;] something like 65% of the public was not troubled by it. Having said that, I don&#8217;t want to hug the tar baby of trying to comment on the program&#8230; the alleged program, the existence of which I can neither confirm or deny. &nbsp; I asked Judd at Think Progress about it and he agreed.&nbsp;TP then explains to Tony the problem with using that term: &nbsp; Based on the context of the term, we believe you meant tar baby to mean: &quot;a situation almost impossible to get out of; a problem virtually unsolvable.&quot; &nbsp; But in &quot;American lore,&quot; the expression tar baby is also a racial slur &quot;used occasionally as a derogatory term for black people.&quot; Use of the term has resulted in people being fired. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=687218', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: buzz</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-680008</link>
		<dc:creator>buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, just .....wow.  You people are nuts.  I also never heard this used in a racial manner.  I knew if from Brer Rabbit.  I had no idea Brer Rabbit was also supposed to be a slur.   God forbid he use the word &quot;niggardly&quot; in a speach.  Your heads would blow off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, just &#8230;..wow.  You people are nuts.  I also never heard this used in a racial manner.  I knew if from Brer Rabbit.  I had no idea Brer Rabbit was also supposed to be a slur.   God forbid he use the word &#8220;niggardly&#8221; in a speach.  Your heads would blow off.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=680008', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: IntoxiNation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Snow&#8217;s First Day With Cameras</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-652875</link>
		<dc:creator>IntoxiNation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Snow&#8217;s First Day With Cameras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 18:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Think Progress points this out: Based on the context of the term, we believe you meant tar baby to mean: &#8220;a situation almost impossible to get out of; a problem virtually unsolvable.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Think Progress points this out: Based on the context of the term, we believe you meant tar baby to mean: &ldquo;a situation almost impossible to get out of; a problem virtually unsolvable.&rdquo; [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=652875', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sooner Thought &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Huffington: Tony Snow: You Can Take the Man Out of Fox News, But You Can&#8217;t Take the Fox News Out of the Man &#124; The Huffington Post</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-629514</link>
		<dc:creator>Sooner Thought &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Huffington: Tony Snow: You Can Take the Man Out of Fox News, But You Can&#8217;t Take the Fox News Out of the Man &#124; The Huffington Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Then there were Snowâ€™s head-scratching comparison of the gay marriage ban to the civil rights struggle (compounded by his inability to define civil rights) and his unfortunate use of â€œtar babyâ€ imagery to deflect questions on NSA surveillance programs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Then there were Snowâ€™s head-scratching comparison of the gay marriage ban to the civil rights struggle (compounded by his inability to define civil rights) and his unfortunate use of â€œtar babyâ€ imagery to deflect questions on NSA surveillance programs. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=629514', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-591414</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never heard the term &quot;tar baby&quot; in ANY context.  When I saw a clip on the Daily Show, I googled it.  Get a life everyone.  As anti-Bush as I am, this isn&#039;t a big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never heard the term &#8220;tar baby&#8221; in ANY context.  When I saw a clip on the Daily Show, I googled it.  Get a life everyone.  As anti-Bush as I am, this isn&#8217;t a big deal.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=591414', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pamlico-Tar River Foundation - Tar Links</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-572684</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamlico-Tar River Foundation - Tar Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 09:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Think Progress Memorandum To Tony Snow On The Use Of The Term Memorandum To Tony Snow On The Use Of The Term Tar Baby Date: May 16, 2006. To: White House Press Secretary Tony Snow. From: ThinkProgress.org [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Think Progress Memorandum To Tony Snow On The Use Of The Term Memorandum To Tony Snow On The Use Of The Term Tar Baby Date: May 16, 2006. To: White House Press Secretary Tony Snow. From: ThinkProgress.org [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=572684', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-568634</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 23:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a parrot says &quot;Polly want a cracker,&quot; is it racist?  Maybe it wants a white boy.

If I say I was on vacation and saw a water buffalo, am I a biggot?

Give me a break.  This is ridiculous.

I really dislike this administration, but just because someone knows a different word usage from yourself, you can&#039;t condemn him.  Show some understanding.  He&#039;s a white boy and probably never heard the term used racially before.  Personally, I&#039;ve never heard the term used racially - and I&#039;m a 30 year old college educated international businessman.

I hate what the republicans have done to our country, but the complete lack of perspective of idiots like those posting here is really disheartening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a parrot says &#8220;Polly want a cracker,&#8221; is it racist?  Maybe it wants a white boy.</p>
<p>If I say I was on vacation and saw a water buffalo, am I a biggot?</p>
<p>Give me a break.  This is ridiculous.</p>
<p>I really dislike this administration, but just because someone knows a different word usage from yourself, you can&#8217;t condemn him.  Show some understanding.  He&#8217;s a white boy and probably never heard the term used racially before.  Personally, I&#8217;ve never heard the term used racially &#8211; and I&#8217;m a 30 year old college educated international businessman.</p>
<p>I hate what the republicans have done to our country, but the complete lack of perspective of idiots like those posting here is really disheartening.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=568634', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DM</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-568286</link>
		<dc:creator>DM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 20:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I&#039;m black, and grew up hearing the story of Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby...a folk tale in which the feisty rabbit is tricked and gets stuck in the tar. In this instance, I don&#039;t think Snow is culpable.  Granted, it was the wrong choice of Snow to use a term like that, but sometimes ignorant people don&#039;t know how to self-censor. Here&#039;s a link to the folk tale:
http://www.americanfolklore.net/folktales/ga2.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I&#8217;m black, and grew up hearing the story of Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby&#8230;a folk tale in which the feisty rabbit is tricked and gets stuck in the tar. In this instance, I don&#8217;t think Snow is culpable.  Granted, it was the wrong choice of Snow to use a term like that, but sometimes ignorant people don&#8217;t know how to self-censor. Here&#8217;s a link to the folk tale:<br />
<a href="http://www.americanfolklore.net/folktales/ga2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanfolklore.net/folktales/ga2.html</a><br />
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		<title>By: Fierce Reagan Conservative</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-567760</link>
		<dc:creator>Fierce Reagan Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 14:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In comment 322, Dee says that he was called a &quot;tar baby&quot; when he was in elementary school.  While I sympathize with him, because some racist morons misused that term in an offensive way, that still doesn&#039;t mean that Snow was making a racist comment.  Lots of terms have been misused in offensive ways, against blacks, but that doesn&#039;t mean that each of those terms should now be retired from use, because some moron used it offensively.  If you actually read the story of Brer Rabbit, and understand the moral of the story, you will see that in the proper context (i.e. the context used by Tony Snow), calling a situation a &quot;tar baby&quot; means that it is a sticky situation in which the more you try to get out of it, the more stuck you become, and it has absolutely nothing to do with black people.  People need to take their blinders of paranoia off and realize that people are really not out to get you.  Just read the story of Brer Rabbit, and go over the transcript, where Snow makes this statement, and you will see that there is absolutely nothing racist in what he said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In comment 322, Dee says that he was called a &#8220;tar baby&#8221; when he was in elementary school.  While I sympathize with him, because some racist morons misused that term in an offensive way, that still doesn&#8217;t mean that Snow was making a racist comment.  Lots of terms have been misused in offensive ways, against blacks, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that each of those terms should now be retired from use, because some moron used it offensively.  If you actually read the story of Brer Rabbit, and understand the moral of the story, you will see that in the proper context (i.e. the context used by Tony Snow), calling a situation a &#8220;tar baby&#8221; means that it is a sticky situation in which the more you try to get out of it, the more stuck you become, and it has absolutely nothing to do with black people.  People need to take their blinders of paranoia off and realize that people are really not out to get you.  Just read the story of Brer Rabbit, and go over the transcript, where Snow makes this statement, and you will see that there is absolutely nothing racist in what he said.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=567760', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fierce Reagan Conservative</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/16/snow-memo-tar-baby/comment-page-7/#comment-567696</link>
		<dc:creator>Fierce Reagan Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 13:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You dumb liberal idiots!  You can try, all you want, to make Snow out as a racist, but you are just making yourselves look like the fools that you are, and only ingnorant liberal idiots will believe and follow you like sheep (power to the sheeple).  Snow is definitely NOT a racist, and the &quot;tar baby&quot; comment is definitely NOT a racist comment.  Wise up, you morons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dumb liberal idiots!  You can try, all you want, to make Snow out as a racist, but you are just making yourselves look like the fools that you are, and only ingnorant liberal idiots will believe and follow you like sheep (power to the sheeple).  Snow is definitely NOT a racist, and the &#8220;tar baby&#8221; comment is definitely NOT a racist comment.  Wise up, you morons!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=567696', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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