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		<title>By: madashell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561826</link>
		<dc:creator>madashell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 16:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was too a libertarian - for about a year.  I believed for a time that government regulations were hampering business.  And that the basic credo is &quot;one can do whatever one wants to do as long NO ONE in the process gets hurt&quot;.  But as far as corporations &quot;policing&quot; themselves?  

As far as &quot;owning&quot; land.  I too am a land &quot;owner&quot;, but have come to the realization that I really &quot;own&quot; nothing.  This is NOT MY land to degrade.  I believe I am merely a steward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was too a libertarian &#8211; for about a year.  I believed for a time that government regulations were hampering business.  And that the basic credo is &#8220;one can do whatever one wants to do as long NO ONE in the process gets hurt&#8221;.  But as far as corporations &#8220;policing&#8221; themselves?  </p>
<p>As far as &#8220;owning&#8221; land.  I too am a land &#8220;owner&#8221;, but have come to the realization that I really &#8220;own&#8221; nothing.  This is NOT MY land to degrade.  I believe I am merely a steward.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561826', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tundra</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561367</link>
		<dc:creator>Tundra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 04:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;PROGRESSIVES ARE HUMANITARIANS - WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU?&lt;/em&gt;
There is that anger again, why don&#039;t you try and &quot;Buck up a little trooper&quot;. I lean toward Libertarian. I would prefer to have my few acres here and you stay the heck off it. I pay taxes on it to keep the schools up, police and fire available and roads clean. I believe I should be able to protect my family and what&#039;s mine to the best of my ability, no offense but I have seen several &quot;wonderful protection&quot; ideas brought up from the government/humanatarians who feel I should be required to flee as a first option so the poor burglar doesn&#039;t get hurt.

I believe the only reason our country should send troops to war is with congressional approval. The cases for this should be extremely sparce.
I believe if you want to have an abortion/get married to a person of the same sex, have fun, but stay off my land.
I believe that if I want to chop a tree down on my land and you want to chain yourself to it or claim that I can&#039;t knock down some old barn on my property because of &quot;Historical&quot; reasons, I should be able to shoot you for being on my land.
I believe that the government assistance programs are needed to help people who are down. I also think they should do what they can to prevent abuses of the system.
I believe that I should be able to own a gun and if you step on my land you will get to see the business end.
I believe if you have a firearm and it is used in a crime you are liable.
I believe that he death penalty saves money and is fair.
I believe if you need my help and I know you, I will do everything I can. If I don&#039;t know you go ask a liberal and they will find a way to make me help you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>PROGRESSIVES ARE HUMANITARIANS &#8211; WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU?</em><br />
There is that anger again, why don&#8217;t you try and &#8220;Buck up a little trooper&#8221;. I lean toward Libertarian. I would prefer to have my few acres here and you stay the heck off it. I pay taxes on it to keep the schools up, police and fire available and roads clean. I believe I should be able to protect my family and what&#8217;s mine to the best of my ability, no offense but I have seen several &#8220;wonderful protection&#8221; ideas brought up from the government/humanatarians who feel I should be required to flee as a first option so the poor burglar doesn&#8217;t get hurt.</p>
<p>I believe the only reason our country should send troops to war is with congressional approval. The cases for this should be extremely sparce.<br />
I believe if you want to have an abortion/get married to a person of the same sex, have fun, but stay off my land.<br />
I believe that if I want to chop a tree down on my land and you want to chain yourself to it or claim that I can&#8217;t knock down some old barn on my property because of &#8220;Historical&#8221; reasons, I should be able to shoot you for being on my land.<br />
I believe that the government assistance programs are needed to help people who are down. I also think they should do what they can to prevent abuses of the system.<br />
I believe that I should be able to own a gun and if you step on my land you will get to see the business end.<br />
I believe if you have a firearm and it is used in a crime you are liable.<br />
I believe that he death penalty saves money and is fair.<br />
I believe if you need my help and I know you, I will do everything I can. If I don&#8217;t know you go ask a liberal and they will find a way to make me help you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561367', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tundra</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561362</link>
		<dc:creator>Tundra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 04:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;so what the hell do you really know anyway??&lt;/em&gt;

Wow always so angry with me, we have to work on that a little. I will honestly say I do not know how many dead Iraqi citizens there are due to this violence. I didn&#039;t want the U.S to go so I don&#039;t know why you are on me about it. If you would like a list of congressmen who authorized the use of force with Iraq I could get that for you. Granted some of them needed to throw pork onto that resolution to sign it (we&#039;ll keep them silent though)

Granted now that we are there I figure we should stay and finish it.

If you would like my opinions on U.S troops outside the states so you can at least be upset with me for a valid reason here goes.

Iraq: Should have never went/Should stay until they are able to defend themselves or the international community is prepared to protect them.
Iran: Screw them, don&#039;t go over there. Let them build a missile I don&#039;t care. Let them nuke 2 million Isreal citizens then let someone else worry about it. If they attack the U.S it will be a big city, quite frankly I don&#039;t know anyone even around a really big city.
North Korea: See Iran
Dufar: Sorry but let them figure it out, no risking soldiers or spending any more cash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>so what the hell do you really know anyway??</em></p>
<p>Wow always so angry with me, we have to work on that a little. I will honestly say I do not know how many dead Iraqi citizens there are due to this violence. I didn&#8217;t want the U.S to go so I don&#8217;t know why you are on me about it. If you would like a list of congressmen who authorized the use of force with Iraq I could get that for you. Granted some of them needed to throw pork onto that resolution to sign it (we&#8217;ll keep them silent though)</p>
<p>Granted now that we are there I figure we should stay and finish it.</p>
<p>If you would like my opinions on U.S troops outside the states so you can at least be upset with me for a valid reason here goes.</p>
<p>Iraq: Should have never went/Should stay until they are able to defend themselves or the international community is prepared to protect them.<br />
Iran: Screw them, don&#8217;t go over there. Let them build a missile I don&#8217;t care. Let them nuke 2 million Isreal citizens then let someone else worry about it. If they attack the U.S it will be a big city, quite frankly I don&#8217;t know anyone even around a really big city.<br />
North Korea: See Iran<br />
Dufar: Sorry but let them figure it out, no risking soldiers or spending any more cash<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561362', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: madashell</title>
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		<dc:creator>madashell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 03:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I simply have empathy for others, unlike alot of people here&lt;/em&gt;

empathy?  even for the poor iragis?


PROGRESSIVES ARE HUMANITARIANS - WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I simply have empathy for others, unlike alot of people here</em></p>
<p>empathy?  even for the poor iragis?</p>
<p>PROGRESSIVES ARE HUMANITARIANS &#8211; WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561361', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: madashell</title>
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		<dc:creator>madashell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 03:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œactually the number one killer right now is WARâ€¦ â€

Do you honestly believe that? 

Comment by Tundra â€” May 17, 2006 @ 4:09 pm 


and those were the answers to your question...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œactually the number one killer right now is WARâ€¦ â€</p>
<p>Do you honestly believe that? </p>
<p>Comment by Tundra â€” May 17, 2006 @ 4:09 pm </p>
<p>and those were the answers to your question&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561360', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: madashell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561358</link>
		<dc:creator>madashell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tundra - remember our government doesn&#039;t do BODY COUNTS OF DEAD IRAQIS - so what the hell do you really know anyway??

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11674.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Number Of Iraqi Civilians Slaughtered In America&#039;s War? As Many As 250,000&lt;/a&gt;

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Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In America&#039;s War 2450


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Cost of America&#039;s War in Iraq

$281,385,241,678
To see more details, click here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tundra &#8211; remember our government doesn&#8217;t do BODY COUNTS OF DEAD IRAQIS &#8211; so what the hell do you really know anyway??</p>
<p><a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11674.htm" rel="nofollow">Number Of Iraqi Civilians Slaughtered In America&#8217;s War? As Many As 250,000</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In America&#8217;s War 2450</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Cost of America&#8217;s War in Iraq</p>
<p>$281,385,241,678<br />
To see more details, click here.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561358', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tundra</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561355</link>
		<dc:creator>Tundra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 03:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>235

&lt;em&gt;MORE THAN 250,000 DEAD IRAQIS.

NOW TELL ME Iâ€™M WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! &lt;/em&gt;


Where did you get that figure? Last I heard they were 95% sure that the number was between 6,000 and 196,000 which is how most people got 86,000 (gotta love such accuracy)</description>
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<p><em>MORE THAN 250,000 DEAD IRAQIS.</p>
<p>NOW TELL ME Iâ€™M WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </em></p>
<p>Where did you get that figure? Last I heard they were 95% sure that the number was between 6,000 and 196,000 which is how most people got 86,000 (gotta love such accuracy)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561355', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tundra</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561354</link>
		<dc:creator>Tundra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 03:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>madashell,

What in the world are you talking about? I allready said that I did not want the war on numerous occasions.

I simply have empathy for others, unlike alot of people here. If someone is scared of spiders, snakes, terrorists I tend to be understanding. Other people would take their fear of spiders and instead of saying I understand and let&#039;s discuss spiders, they would say &quot;hahaha, the spiders in your area don&#039;t kill people, Would you be interested in buying a bridge in brooklyn? You are a fool for believing they are scarry&quot;. 

I just guess I have a little more compassion for my fellow man than some :)

As far as the images I&#039;ve seen them, I have a pretty strong stomache and &quot;well it&#039;s not me so the poor shleps most likely deserved it&quot;  

(Hypocritical slant noted and giggled over)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>madashell,</p>
<p>What in the world are you talking about? I allready said that I did not want the war on numerous occasions.</p>
<p>I simply have empathy for others, unlike alot of people here. If someone is scared of spiders, snakes, terrorists I tend to be understanding. Other people would take their fear of spiders and instead of saying I understand and let&#8217;s discuss spiders, they would say &#8220;hahaha, the spiders in your area don&#8217;t kill people, Would you be interested in buying a bridge in brooklyn? You are a fool for believing they are scarry&#8221;. </p>
<p>I just guess I have a little more compassion for my fellow man than some :)</p>
<p>As far as the images I&#8217;ve seen them, I have a pretty strong stomache and &#8220;well it&#8217;s not me so the poor shleps most likely deserved it&#8221;  </p>
<p>(Hypocritical slant noted and giggled over)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561354', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: madashell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561330</link>
		<dc:creator>madashell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 02:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tundra -

ONE MORE THING - NEARLY 2400 DEAD US SOLDIERS, MORE THAN 250,000 DEAD IRAQIS.

NOW TELL ME I&#039;M WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tundra -</p>
<p>ONE MORE THING &#8211; NEARLY 2400 DEAD US SOLDIERS, MORE THAN 250,000 DEAD IRAQIS.</p>
<p>NOW TELL ME I&#8217;M WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561330', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: madashell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561326</link>
		<dc:creator>madashell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 02:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tundra - want to see????

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/uncensored&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iraq War Images Uncensored&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tundra &#8211; want to see????</p>
<p><a href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/uncensored" rel="nofollow">Iraq War Images Uncensored</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561326', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Bush Awareness Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Snowjob&#8217;s first day</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bush Awareness Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Snowjob&#8217;s first day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 02:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Clif</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561177</link>
		<dc:creator>Clif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 23:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem Zookeeper, but having seen a few too many death by explosives pictures in my training, I had to comment, and that was the easiest to illustrate so the argument crowd here would not try and drag it out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem Zookeeper, but having seen a few too many death by explosives pictures in my training, I had to comment, and that was the easiest to illustrate so the argument crowd here would not try and drag it out<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561177', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zookeeper</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561167</link>
		<dc:creator>Zookeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 22:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#229 - No, Jane!  Think of the kitties!  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#229 &#8211; No, Jane!  Think of the kitties!  ;)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561167', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zookeeper</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561166</link>
		<dc:creator>Zookeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 22:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#228 - Clif, as soon as I posted it, I knew that one was going to come back and bite me in the ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#228 &#8211; Clif, as soon as I posted it, I knew that one was going to come back and bite me in the ass.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561166', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jane E. Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane E. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 22:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, it took so long for me to go through all these comments, I need a cigarette!  How &#039;bout you, Madashell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it took so long for me to go through all these comments, I need a cigarette!  How &#8217;bout you, Madashell?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561137', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clif</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561135</link>
		<dc:creator>Clif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 22:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, everyone dies of cardiac arrestâ€¦

Comment by Zookeeper â€” May 17, 2006 @ 4:46 pm 

Just being facetious but there were some people who happened to live in two Japanese cities named Hiroshima and Nagasaki which were literally vaporised, not enough time for the cardiac arrest, other examples could be found, but that would be more facetious</description>
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<p>Comment by Zookeeper â€” May 17, 2006 @ 4:46 pm </p>
<p>Just being facetious but there were some people who happened to live in two Japanese cities named Hiroshima and Nagasaki which were literally vaporised, not enough time for the cardiac arrest, other examples could be found, but that would be more facetious<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561135', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clif</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/thinkfast-may-17-2006/comment-page-5/#comment-561119</link>
		<dc:creator>Clif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 22:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And all of these acts, I find out later on, are contrary to the Hague and Geneva conventions and to the laws of warfare.

Comment by squegeeboo â€” May 17, 2006 @ 3:25 pm
Try readingand you would see that Kerry is stating that the actions were found out later to be in violation not at the time he was ordered to and did them, thus you argument that you keep making to feel so smug and safe while in you cocoon, but try reality not your made up slant on the facts.

BTW the military did not focus on teaching the Geneva convention until AFTER vietnam because of some of the war crimes that wetre proven...LIKE My Lai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And all of these acts, I find out later on, are contrary to the Hague and Geneva conventions and to the laws of warfare.</p>
<p>Comment by squegeeboo â€” May 17, 2006 @ 3:25 pm<br />
Try readingand you would see that Kerry is stating that the actions were found out later to be in violation not at the time he was ordered to and did them, thus you argument that you keep making to feel so smug and safe while in you cocoon, but try reality not your made up slant on the facts.</p>
<p>BTW the military did not focus on teaching the Geneva convention until AFTER vietnam because of some of the war crimes that wetre proven&#8230;LIKE My Lai<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561119', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 22:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You are not reading what I have said. You keep going back to trying to blame somebody somewhere etc.
Comment by Tundra â€” May 17, 2006 @ 3:58 pm&lt;/i&gt;

I a reading and still think it is BS. Nobody woke up one day feeling threatened by Iraq. There was a reason for that fear.

Once again, bhealy said &quot;I originally supported war on Iraq with the biggest reason being that I thought the US was in danger from Iraq.&quot; Ask yourself, what would that &quot;originally&quot; mean? When did that &quot;originally&quot; happen?

Anyone who &lt;b&gt;originally&lt;/b&gt; bought into that fear, did so because 1) certain group was making sure everyone else got the message and 2) people were gullible enough to believe it. Hence my reply: &quot;You were suckered&quot;. 

&lt;i&gt;All I was saying, is Yes Iraq could hurt us. That is all I have said, that is all I am saying.&lt;/i&gt;

My argument has never been whether Iraq had the potential for hurting the US, but whether it was a real threat. 

&lt;i&gt;I am not justifying anything except for bhealy feeling that they could be a threat.&lt;/i&gt;

bhealy didn&#039;t say &quot;I thought Iraq could be a threat&quot; but &quot;I felt the US was in danger from Iraq&quot;. For him, the threat was real. No hypotheticals. Not potentially. No &quot;could be&quot;. It was real. 

At this point, I will repeat myself: If you believed Iraq was a threat (not &quot;could be&quot; like you say but an actual, real threat as bhealy said he felt), I have a bridge to sell to you too, Tundra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You are not reading what I have said. You keep going back to trying to blame somebody somewhere etc.<br />
Comment by Tundra â€” May 17, 2006 @ 3:58 pm</i></p>
<p>I a reading and still think it is BS. Nobody woke up one day feeling threatened by Iraq. There was a reason for that fear.</p>
<p>Once again, bhealy said &#8220;I originally supported war on Iraq with the biggest reason being that I thought the US was in danger from Iraq.&#8221; Ask yourself, what would that &#8220;originally&#8221; mean? When did that &#8220;originally&#8221; happen?</p>
<p>Anyone who <b>originally</b> bought into that fear, did so because 1) certain group was making sure everyone else got the message and 2) people were gullible enough to believe it. Hence my reply: &#8220;You were suckered&#8221;. </p>
<p><i>All I was saying, is Yes Iraq could hurt us. That is all I have said, that is all I am saying.</i></p>
<p>My argument has never been whether Iraq had the potential for hurting the US, but whether it was a real threat. </p>
<p><i>I am not justifying anything except for bhealy feeling that they could be a threat.</i></p>
<p>bhealy didn&#8217;t say &#8220;I thought Iraq could be a threat&#8221; but &#8220;I felt the US was in danger from Iraq&#8221;. For him, the threat was real. No hypotheticals. Not potentially. No &#8220;could be&#8221;. It was real. </p>
<p>At this point, I will repeat myself: If you believed Iraq was a threat (not &#8220;could be&#8221; like you say but an actual, real threat as bhealy said he felt), I have a bridge to sell to you too, Tundra.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561115', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 21:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;#210 mark&lt;/em&gt;
good post.</description>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 21:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#217 - unbelievable,
I am only trying to illustrate that the world is not all black and white. We as humans are not all susceptible to the same risks. Since your mother is healthy as a horse and smokes, you may not be at risk for second-hand smoke. You may have inherited that horse gene. In any case, encourage your mother to give up the weed. Cold turkey is the best way. Every person who I know who tried patches or gum just used them to up their nicotine input, and the gum people smelled like a wet ashtray to boot (Non-smokers tend to be very sensitive to the odor of tobacco.).
On the genes vs. intelligence, please refer to the following:
http://www.wilderdom.com/personality/L4-1IntelligenceNatureVsNurture.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#217 &#8211; unbelievable,<br />
I am only trying to illustrate that the world is not all black and white. We as humans are not all susceptible to the same risks. Since your mother is healthy as a horse and smokes, you may not be at risk for second-hand smoke. You may have inherited that horse gene. In any case, encourage your mother to give up the weed. Cold turkey is the best way. Every person who I know who tried patches or gum just used them to up their nicotine input, and the gum people smelled like a wet ashtray to boot (Non-smokers tend to be very sensitive to the odor of tobacco.).<br />
On the genes vs. intelligence, please refer to the following:<br />
<a href="http://www.wilderdom.com/personality/L4-1IntelligenceNatureVsNurture.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wilderdom.com/personality/L4-1IntelligenceNatureVsNurture.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=561083', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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