New Poll Finds Bush Approval Stuck In Mid-30s, CNN Calls It ‘A Bounce’
By on May 18th, 2006 at 4:32 pm
New Poll Finds Bush Approval Stuck In Mid-30s, CNN Calls It ‘A Bounce’
CNN just reported that President Bush’s new job approval rating is at 36 percent, suggesting it was “a bounce for President Bush.”
But this isn’t a bounce. Bush’s early May approval rating was 34 percent. Each poll has an error of +/-3 points, meaning Bush’s numbers haven’t changed at all.
Is the media really this desperate for Bush’s approval rating to rebound?
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Isn’t this Rausammen? I think this is actually a drop for that poll. So its consistant with Bush sinking in the polls.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:35 pm“A bounce for President Bush.” That had to be Blitzer. *gag*
May 18th, 2006 at 4:36 pmBounced? Off of what? I had no idea shit was so springy.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:36 pmThey were being sarcastic.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:36 pmAh, CNN. Disregard.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:36 pmALL HAIL THE QUESTION MARK HEADLINE!
May 18th, 2006 at 4:37 pmSo if it only goes up 2% with each poll back above 50%, has it never really gone up because each poll is within 3% of the previous one?
May 18th, 2006 at 4:37 pmDo people really change their mind from day to day? On monday morning they don’t approve of Bush but by Wednesday afternoon they do?
To show the 34% and call it a bounce???? It’s amazing how far you need to go to find a positive with this admin.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:38 pmIs the media really this desperate for Bush’s approval rating to rebound?
Well, let me think about it….
May 18th, 2006 at 4:42 pmAs whores for Fascism, I’d say….YES!
The public doesn’t change directions that dramatically over nothingness (Like truthiness, only more nothing)
Two things annoy the hell outa me…stupid spinpolls…and people fixated on this Republican/Democrat paradigm.
Grow up!
I never thought I’d see the day that a 36% approval rating of a public servant would be GOOD news. It’s 36%! That is bad news, period.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:43 pmAnd if my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle…
–
May 18th, 2006 at 4:44 pmBut they don’t look at polls…..right?
May 18th, 2006 at 4:45 pmRight…
May 18th, 2006 at 4:46 pmNow the media is heralding a meager 36% approval rate as good news?
Talk about low expectations…
May 18th, 2006 at 4:46 pmThis poll is probably “un-legally documented,” if it’s from CNN.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:46 pmCNN calls Paula Zahn a journalist too.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:46 pmIsn’t it obvious? Calling it a “bounce” is a typical liberal-media move!
Darn that crafty liberal media!
May 18th, 2006 at 4:48 pmThese media weasels are truly pining for a ‘comeback’ for their Dear Leader.
I’m not sure they are aware of how pathetic they appear to the rest of the world.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:48 pmThis is the Rasmussen Poll and he was at 39% two days ago. It’s a bounce all right but there is some serious backspin on it.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:49 pmbouncing all the way out of office….boing….boing….
May 18th, 2006 at 4:50 pmCNN should poll people on who they like more, Charles Manson or George Bush. I wonder what the results would be.
Bush is done. The Republicans, if they dare call themselves one, are done.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:50 pmFolks, I clicked the link and the headline was “Bush Popularity Still Down.” Why are blasting CNN for what is clearly an accurate headline?
May 18th, 2006 at 4:50 pmNo, no… you see. Due to the new illegal immigration policy being pushed by Bush, CNN is no longer required to count the illegal immigrant vote in their polls.
That’s where they got their 2% ‘bounce.’
May 18th, 2006 at 4:51 pmAnd the disapproval hasn’t changed much even in this poll. “BUSH DISAPPROVAL DOWN TO 57%! A point better than 58% in our last poll!
May 18th, 2006 at 4:51 pmRasmussen, generally 5 to 10 pts. higher than all the others, had finally dipped to 37% near the end of April, so they changed their methodology, which popped it back over 40% again, but now, with the NEW methodology, they’ve hit a new all-time low of 36%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm
May 18th, 2006 at 4:54 pmSo… previously it was 34%, with a +/- of 3% points. So, it could have been 37%, right?
Now, it’s at 36% with a +/- of 3% points. So it could be at 33%, right?
Yea! Bush is down 4%! Look how I can rearrange numbers!
My real question: Will Karl Rove and Laura Bush believe this poll? Cause they didn’t believe the other one.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:54 pmThe link goes to the web site, which tends to be more liberal. The thread is based off of what was on the screen on the CNN television channel. See the picture of Bush up there? Now look under his ugly mug. See where it says “A BOUNCE FOR PRES. BUSH?”
Good, now we are all on the same page.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:54 pmYes, the media is desperate to promote the culture of incompetence, corruption and greed fostered by Bush. Faux News, Conservative News Network, and other corporate-controlled entertainment marketers have no interest in upsetting the apple-cart, even if it means blinding the American public to the truth. Remember when we used to mock the Soviet Union for its state-controlled (official) news outlets like Pravda? What we have is worse. Make you take the time to contact CNN and thank them for this thoughtless analysis.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:55 pmI clicked the link and the headline was “Bush Popularity Still Down.â€
Comment by bad news — May 18, 2006 @ 4:50 pm
Yes, that was the headline in May.
Why are blasting CNN for what is clearly an accurate headline?
Because, if you look at the screen shot, today’s talking point is “A bounce for Pres Bush?”
That was then, this is now.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:55 pmI love how he had to crash to the basement before they’d concede he had troubles. And now it’s “wait, he’s bouncing around in the margin of error! It’s a rebound!”
May 18th, 2006 at 4:55 pmWell it feels like a bounce.
Math is hard.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:56 pmsing it with me now folks…
boing boing
May 18th, 2006 at 4:56 pmout going
boing boing
bounce!
Careful – he’ll start using some of that “political capital” with this surge of confidence.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:57 pmIf CNN is calling this a “bounce” then Fox News must be touting it as “rocket launching.”
May 18th, 2006 at 4:57 pmRasmussen shows him at 36 today, 2 points below yesterday’s number, and the lowest ever recorded on Rasmussen. He’s sinking like a stone.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:58 pm#32 – You’re hilarious, Mash! Love your website.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:58 pmDid everybody see that Bush got out his blue shirt and rolled up the sleeves again today.
Got himself a photo-op on the border today. I am going to add this one to my collection of Bush in blue shirt, with sleeves rolled up, collection.
May 18th, 2006 at 4:58 pmWell yes, it’s bouncing off the sides of the shaft as it plunges deep, deep, deep into the bowels of the Earth..
May 18th, 2006 at 5:00 pmIf I got a D- on an exam
and then got a D on a followup exam….
my professor certainly would not call that a bounce….
get over 40 percent and then maybe maybe we can talk CNN
Fox News Lite strikes again
May 18th, 2006 at 5:00 pmEvery poll says a different number. Late April said 29%, so Bush has almost nowhere to go but up. But it’s disheartening to see that he can experience a 5-7% bounce just for making a little bit of sense during the Immigration speech.
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May 18th, 2006 at 5:00 pmYES, USE SHAMM SHAMPOO AND YOU TOO CAN HAVE A BOUNCY BUSH
May 18th, 2006 at 5:01 pmHey #39 –
I’ve used a similar analogy before.
“Hey, I got 100% on that test if you don’t count the questions that I got wrong.”
I feel that’s how the Bush administration addresses most issues. And I KNOW that’s how Fox ‘News’ reports on the Bush administration.
May 18th, 2006 at 5:02 pm“I am going to add this one to my collection of Bush in blue shirt, with sleeves rolled up, collection. ”
May 18th, 2006 at 5:03 pmMe too Spudge, which would go next to the one of the fratboy pickin’ his fat ass off the assphalt afternoon a bike wreck. Which goes next to the one with Chimpy walkin’ hand in hand with Saud Faud. Now, you can find that one next to the fight with a pretzell…and on and on…
A bounce? So why then, when W’s approval numbers DROP by two or more points, does CNN and the rest of the MSM call it “statistically the same as the month before”, and not a freefall?
Even if there ever is a bounce, that’ll just mean that the BA is eavesdropping on the polling call and cutting the connection for a Dem or Independent.
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Only on SSA
#36 Zookeeper, thanks…I just cant get that jingle out of my head
May 18th, 2006 at 5:06 pmCNN calls Paula Zahn a journalist too.
Comment by unbelievable
Heck they call Glen Beck one. That speaks volumes for the people running CNN now. They are trying to recreate Fox Network
May 18th, 2006 at 5:06 pmTed Turner, please come back !!! LOL
please, it’s a cnn poll — fox lite.
May 18th, 2006 at 5:06 pmA Hindenburg Bounce!
May 18th, 2006 at 5:07 pmRR Bush Job Approval
Approve Disapprove
Today 36 63
May 17 38 61
May 16 39 60
May 15 No Calls on Mother’s Day
May 14 39 60
May 13 40 59
May 12 39 60
May 11 40 58
May 10 41 58
May 9 41 58
May 8 41 58
May 7 42 57
May 6 43 55
May 5 43 56
May 4 41 57
May 3 40 59
May 2 40 59
May 1 40 59
Any other questions…it has been going down here too even if they tried to fix the numbers higher…
May 18th, 2006 at 5:08 pmSen. Hagel is on camera now. One by one, watch the Republiscum defend Bush, the NSA, Hayden, and vow to re-write the laws for the future, ignoring the fact that laws have been violated.
May 18th, 2006 at 5:10 pmRoberts earlier today. Even Specter on an unrelated issue with Feingold today. Do not pay attetion to what they say — watch what they do in the end.
Roberts does it outright; I am watching Hagel start to crawdad now.
Well to be fair, it’s probably the first poll CNN has done for a while where Bush has actually gone upwards instead of downwards. Come on guys, you know the media likes to speculate about just about anything. The “new low” spiel got kinda old after a while.
May 18th, 2006 at 5:12 pmThat is a great idea. We could compare lots of people to Bush and see who is liked more. Even if he is more well liked than Charlie Manson, buy how much?
May 18th, 2006 at 5:12 pmOnly 6 percent of the people like the President MORE than Charles Manson.
(of course it would be funnier if it was the SAME 6 percent!
Wolfie can’t bring himself to face the decline of der Fuher.
May 18th, 2006 at 5:12 pmDismal polling and he puts on a positive spin.
Kinda of reminds me of Pres. Clinton going from 66% approval to 64% approval, and the right-wing talking-heads saying “His approval rating is taking a nose dive!”
It’s all opinion. A “bounce” for a 2% increase is the same as a “nose dive” for a 2% decrease.
Actually, it’s all “spin”! Need proof? Listen to Bill O’Riely (sp?) spin away. . . . .
May 18th, 2006 at 5:16 pmAmanda – Progs were crowing about “29%” within the last week – Which poll was “incorrect”?? Your 34% or the former 29%?
“CNN should poll people on who they like more, Charles Manson or George Bush. I wonder what the results would be.” – Ron
May 18th, 2006 at 5:20 pm*****Ron, don’t be coy – we ALL know progs would prefer Charles Manson to President Bush. I can just hear the lefty spin, “I mean he had the GUTS to carve a swastika on his forehead – something the evil fuhrer would NEVER do….”
shows how subtle yet sinister mainline news is, we will not forget
May 18th, 2006 at 5:24 pmI’m sure we can find someone to carve a swastika on Chimpy’s head. Anyone?
May 18th, 2006 at 5:26 pmALL HAIL THE QUESTION MARK HEADLINE!
Comment by pgw — May 18, 2006 @ 4:37 pm
You beat me to it! Sorry I was late to the party…I’ll have to read the other posts later.
May 18th, 2006 at 5:27 pmJust like a ping pong ball bounces it will bounce lower and lower each time till it ends up on the floor.
May 18th, 2006 at 5:30 pmBush is at 22% approval rating in the State of NY.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny–bush-newyork0518may18,0,7932437.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork
(note that upstate NY is quite conservative)
May 18th, 2006 at 5:36 pmThat goes along with the “Only one indictment is a good thing” mentality being thrown around after Libby.
May 18th, 2006 at 5:40 pmStop watching CNN. Stop watching that intellectual powerhouse Wolf Blitzer. I swear to god that apathetic piece of garbage is on xanax…
check out this one – it shows all 50 states – only 3 are net positive for bush
http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2006/50StateGov060518State.htm
May 18th, 2006 at 5:42 pmmighty,
May 18th, 2006 at 5:44 pmthere’s no doubt you enjoy abuse…
No matter what we say…
You’re a friggin commie. That’s all there is to it. You want big brother to protect you so you can eat cheetos, patiently waiting to see if Gilligan will make it off the island. Go jump on a tack you kept whore.
#64 – Dear “Will spread Venereal disease for Food” – - No, leech, the “friggin commies” are progs at this site and others radical moon-bat sites. I am a proud capitalist – until later…..
May 18th, 2006 at 5:50 pmEven a dead cat will bounce. Plus I don’t trust anything CNN says any more – they are as bad as Fox Noise.
May 18th, 2006 at 5:54 pm#64 – Much better! No wishes for slow and painful death!
Mighty Hag is hanging on by its fingernails. Face it Hag — all the polls are bad, no matter how you look at them!
May 18th, 2006 at 5:54 pmHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
beavercleaver,
You can put it next to the video of Governor Bush and Laura picking their noses at a Rangers game. Classic.
May 18th, 2006 at 6:04 pmNope, that never gets old.
May 18th, 2006 at 6:06 pmIf I had a choice of liking Darth Vader and the Chimperor, I’d take Darth Vader.
After all, he was a fictional character and was a victim of a Bush-like Emperor.
May 18th, 2006 at 6:14 pmI don’t care, that is still a low IQ score, for the Bush supporters. Oh, sorry not their IQ but close. You’d need an IQ in the low 30’s to still support these crooks in Washington. To think so many people have given their lives for our freedoms and this group just drops in and cancel all of them.
May 18th, 2006 at 6:16 pmMarie- Wolfie or Leslie, since that’s wolf-boy’s real name, is scared to admit his hero has problems is because, like Snow White (see Tar Baby reference), he wants a job licking Bush’s ass****.
Soon, he’ll turn into a John Gibson and express fear that people like you and me are “corrupting America” and that people like me will run the country.
If Gore was President, he would have had Olbermann as Press Secretary. And Olbermann would do a better job that Leslie or Snow White.
May 18th, 2006 at 6:20 pmhe has no balls to bounce
May 18th, 2006 at 6:24 pmRepublicans are brave enough to send women to the ‘theatre of operations’ in Iraq, just to protect their own children from having to serve.
Wothless cowards. dumbasses, one and all, save The Honorable Ron Paul.
The polls should show a zero percent approval rating. There aren’t enough words in the dictionary to describe the disgusting behavior of these buffoons. Well, I found a couple of them.
May 18th, 2006 at 6:46 pmthat would be ‘worthless’
meaning nothing at all, which is what they’re worth. what a sad state of affairs. they can’t be gone fast enough. I hope they pack their bags NOW!
May 18th, 2006 at 6:48 pmHey Mighty Mouth you gonna kill some animals, say some words from your Kabbalah, make some Talismans and put some bad mojo on us?
Hahhahahahhaaa!!
May 18th, 2006 at 6:51 pmYour a Wacko Might Mouth. Go Back to Kommie Land!
Not according to SurveyUSA.
Here’s April: http://surveyusa.com/50State2006/06041850StatePOTUSApproval.html
Here’s May: http://surveyusa.com/50State2006/50StatePres060515Approval.htm
There’s a pretty consisent 3-5% decline across the board. Check it out for yourself.
May 18th, 2006 at 6:57 pmThe only people I know that approve of Bubble boy are mental.
Does that mean more Americans are becoming mental?
May 18th, 2006 at 6:57 pmThat ‘bounce’ has the vertical leap of a freaking slug ! lmfao
May 18th, 2006 at 7:02 pmAarggh! I am sick. CNN is reporting how Bush will be back at 40% approval before November. This is the turn around for him. He hit bottom and is on the way up.
May 18th, 2006 at 7:07 pmOMG – I can’t stand it any more. Wolfie (aka Leslie) is kissing up so much, I am going to lose my supper.
Chimpy gave interviews to reporters one-on-one today — he is desperately seeking approval, but every time he opens his mouth, he reminds me of his incredible, inarticulate stupidity and phony persona.
2% and you’d think his path was lined with palm fronds.
Personally, I hope this is the dead cat bounce. Only one, before it’s splat on the ground.
Not much to say about the number of dead in Iraq and Afghanistan today. That’s a number that would nullify this 2%.
May 18th, 2006 at 7:10 pmEl Busho the Jerk actually said that the dying in Iraq are worth it. I think he said that to Suzanne Malveaux. That quote should be captured and repeated across the CNN crawl all day every day.
Just to be clear – he said something like all the dying in Iraq is worth it.
May 18th, 2006 at 7:11 pmEasy Marie . . . . deep breaths.
May 18th, 2006 at 7:15 pmAll of those channels front for them.
They suck up the lies, and give their opinion on how good it tastes.
They own them.
It’s sick enough that I can’t watch their ‘news’.
#67 – Dear Zooscooper – since President Clinton governed by the polls, I can understand your love of those polls. So we can expect progs to embrace the overwhelmingly large poll numbers to ban partial birth abortion? And you’ll be jumping on the “build the border fence” soon bandwagon???
ANYONE can govern by polls, – but that is not the definition of a LEADER. (Check the POLL numbers during the Civil War – you might be surprised where our country might be had we RELIED on polls…)
May 18th, 2006 at 7:17 pmAh, Mighty Asshole plays the abortion card… when you’re losing an argument with a fish, throw some dynamite in the pond…
May 18th, 2006 at 7:21 pmhttp://billmon.org/archives/002451.html
Bwaaahahaha.
May 18th, 2006 at 7:23 pmMighty Aphrodite,
I like to be called The Decider.
-G.W. Chimpcakes
May 18th, 2006 at 7:29 pmIt’s a well known phrase in the investment world: ‘the dead-cat bounce’.
May 18th, 2006 at 7:37 pm#86 – THE discussion WAS polls – you hypocrite! (I confusion was glaring…)
So throwing abortion out of the polling discussion, we can count on Dems and progs to support marriage between one man and one woman?? POLLS show the American people support such a position overwhelmingly…School vouchers should be given to poor children – POLLs taken of POOR parents show huge support for this issue….
May 18th, 2006 at 7:44 pmThat point is well-taken, Aphro. Still, making the slaves legal humans put the country further in line with our constitution. So in supporting the current president. So are you pro-slavery or anti-constitution? Just to clarify.
May 18th, 2006 at 7:49 pmThat point is well-taken, Aphro. Still, making the slaves legal humans put the country further in line with our constitution. So in supporting the current president, are you pro-slavery or anti-constitution? Just to clarify.
May 18th, 2006 at 7:50 pmSo if it only goes up 2% with each poll back above 50%, has it never really gone up because each poll is within 3% of the previous one?
Comment by squegeeboo — May 18, 2006 @ 4:37 pm
If it’s up to 38 from 34, even if it taks two weeks, it’s a bounce jackass.
May 18th, 2006 at 7:52 pmANYONE can govern by polls, – but that is not the definition of a LEADER
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 18, 2006 @ 7:17 pm
Thus Bush is a poor leader by any definition…..
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May 18th, 2006 at 8:06 pmSo if there is a 3% margin of error and it went up by 2%… I think it could be down by 1%. ?
I think this “bounce” is really the weight of this administration working it’s way through the floorboards. Once we are through that.. we have a 30 points to go.
May 18th, 2006 at 8:07 pm#93 – “That point is well-taken, Aphro. Still, making the slaves legal humans put the country further in line with our constitution.” – Comment by Dano
Dear Dano – The cessation of slavery was brought about by utilizig the Amendment process provided for in the Constitution.
Your ridiculous”question” re: “So in supporting the current president. So are you pro-slavery or anti-constitution?” – - more tengental “thoughts” by Dano
May 18th, 2006 at 8:13 pm****I have a relative on my father’s side who recognized the abhorrence of slavery and was killed in the Civil War after enlisting in the Union Army. (That tradition regarding the humanity of our fellow people and the preservation of our Union is very deeply held by our family.) To be more explicit for you, I am anti-slavery and pro-constitution.
Oh Man! Unbelievable! What a bunch of Morons!! I’ll say this though, between CNN calling this a bounce for the Shrub and the CEI ads slamming Al Gore’s new movie its been a day of Comedy. Then their is Hastert’s assertion about making $40000.00 and paying no taxes.
May 18th, 2006 at 8:18 pmIf it wasn’t for 9/11, it would have been at the this level
May 18th, 2006 at 8:48 pmhis entire presidency…Then again, he wouldn’t have been
reelected, so never mind!
I think I threw up, just a little in my mouth.
Yeah, mighty aphrodite, you are a pillar in this society.
May 18th, 2006 at 8:58 pm#84 – Mighty Hag,
Your darling Bush baby DOES govern by the polls, ass master. He just tells the sheep (i.e. you) that he doesn’t pay attention to polls — and you believe him! How else can we account for Incurious George’s countless embarassing speeches and photo-ops?
May 18th, 2006 at 9:05 pmGULI-BULL!
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May 18th, 2006 at 9:06 pm#100 – Shit can be stacked in a pillar?
May 18th, 2006 at 9:06 pmOk first, I clicked the poll link and it is nothing but a steady decline every few days by another point and if this is a poll he has been strong in they are all screwed but people have to wake up to the fact that the Social Liberals are different from the Political Liberals. New York Times=Social Liberal but they still feed us the same lies the rest of the corporate media does. Go to war be afraid kill kill. Ever noticed when the economy would turn down a tad in the 90’s the media would begin to whisper about gun control legislation and whamoo bamoo 100,000 Ak47’s sold. IT IS MARKETING they do it for our two party system (”voting third party is throwing your vote away”) and they do it with our safety(ever notice how journalists can miss all of these great fun facts about the war until we are already in it all the while the blogs were filled with the same things they are regurgitating back up now like breaking news. Why do they do this? They have been doing it for decades but until the web very very few people knew. Now noone can keep a secret so that only leaves the establishement with one choice ignore them like they always have unfortunatly there are alot more out there now. The fringe grows and grows as more and more people learn that we live in a society that caters only to the rich and corporations (oddly heavily invested in by the rich). Oh yea and why did they begin to leak on the media about Clinton/Lewinsky for the righty bloggers but wouldnt do it for the lefty bloggers until the last year or so MONEYYY c’mon say it with me becuase it is the law. Hmm sounds like a Fascist state that took control quietly via lobbyists instead of a democracy. Guess what thanks to this little tirade I will be put on a watch list in less than an hour, think im paranoid? This is the computer age folks do some diggin and you’ll see.
May 18th, 2006 at 9:09 pmHey Jeff
the chimpenfuhrer provoked 9-11 because in July 2001 he angered the Taliban by threatening to invade them. The Taliban did not wait for the invasion and struck us first and Bush has exploited 9-11 for his own popularity.
Since when does provoking the attacks and then failing to defend against them show strength on national defense that he can fool independents into voting for him?
Ohh yes it appears about the tax cuts.
May 18th, 2006 at 9:10 pmI think I threw up, just a little in my mouth.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
Yeah, MA tends to give alot of people that response with her insane rambling drivel
May 18th, 2006 at 9:22 pmmighty aphrodite, the only poll you need to consider will be the exit polls in november. you guys had your chance and to quote the big lewbowski “the losers lost”. see you at the local voting location asshole.
May 18th, 2006 at 9:28 pmmighty aphrodite, the only poll you need to consider will be the exit polls in november. you guys had your chance and to quote the big lewbowski “the losers lost”. see you at the local voting location asshole.
May 18th, 2006 at 9:28 pmwe ALL know progs would prefer Charles Manson to President Bush. I can just hear the lefty spin, “I mean he had the GUTS to carve a swastika on his forehead – something the evil fuhrer would NEVER do….â€
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Mighty Hypocrite,
May 18th, 2006 at 9:39 pmSo you’re hearing strange voices now? That doesn’t surprise me. Maybe that’s why you always make ridiculous statements without being able to substantiate them.
America,
Please open your mouths a little wider, I have to take another shit.
-George W. Bus
May 18th, 2006 at 9:42 pmOk, folks, sorry to come in late to the discussion. That’s what happens when one works on the West Coast and his employer’s internet firewall blocks posts (even duringin my lunch period).
I looked at the source for this “bounce.”
CNN transcripts:
And on the CNN website:
So, this “bounce” is limited to the immigration issue. Period. So, 36% of those polled think it is a good idea to put a fence between us and Mexico and patrol the region with National Guard troops. Yea….we have gone from seeing the fall of the Berlin Wall, to erecting a wall…..
May 18th, 2006 at 9:46 pmSee my URL for the expected values in October, before the November election. Based on recent changes, things could get worse.
May 18th, 2006 at 10:01 pmIf they’re looking at the Rasmussen poll, either they’re imbeciles or they’re deliberately being dishonest about what it means. Rasmussen polls are weighted more with Republicans than an average sampling. They’re consistently higher in approval for Bush than any others. And 36% is their all-time low for Bush.
Way to spin it for the prez, CNN!
May 18th, 2006 at 10:29 pmNo way no bounce.
I have a message for the repugs in washington. You can take my $17 tax break that you just gave me and stick it! $17 is what the middle-class is getting from the REPUBLICAN tax cuts, while millionaires get a measly $42,000 tax break. Wow, I can buy a 1/4 tank of gas with that big tax break and my millionaire buddy can buy a new car. How screwed up is that? Grover Norquist’s wish comes true about wanting to drown our government in a bathtub of debt. Look what these bozos are doing to our future generations! Mountains of debt. Conservative my butt.
These poll numbers will never recover.
May 18th, 2006 at 10:42 pmMA-WTF? You are such a turnip. Do you not have any self respect? How could a “Human” slither so low into the gutter? I would love to meet you..Really! How could a human be so ” sub Human?’. You are supporting the corrupt, evil, dumb bunch of sh*t heads in history. Please, please, tell me were you live ;;; I really want to meet a bastard like you face -to-face. But, you won’t will you??
May 18th, 2006 at 10:45 pm11 points between 34 and 36? Must be counting in binary. I’m not surprised that he got a bounce really, his speech was pretty good and people were glad he didn’t embarrass us. It’s the content that has a few people upset… but he’s a likeable guy and he was really trying to make EVERYONE happy, which never makes the right happy and was actually not too unpalatable for the middle’uns. The left are glad that the neighbors family won’t have to hide in their attic. On the whole, this isn’t too bad. The English thing is a red-herring. The fence will scar our concience for years to come, standing silently in the desert to remind us of what happens when government forgoes it’s mission to indulge in ideological experiments on our economy, our defence, and our Constitution. One of the points was a non-point being “this is not Amnesty, I’m agin it” . There’s a hidden one of internment camp threat. But I think he would much rather have them working in the fields than sitting in a camp eating our free food. Not much there. An ID card which really implies EVERYONE has to have one, or what good is it. What, NOT having one is proof of citizenship? Bush was smirking at that one. What can we take seriously out of the whole package? The guest worker program and the path to citizenship.
May 18th, 2006 at 10:49 pmWorks for me. I wanted to change that room in the attic into a grow room anyway.
Oops.. thought the url would post… trying again..
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4234u/id9.html
May 18th, 2006 at 11:43 pmThe first post seems to be correct, the latest Rammussen poll puts Bush’s job approval rating at 36% but that is down from there last poll that put it at 38%
May 18th, 2006 at 11:51 pmYou can say whatever you want. That does not make it a fact. BushCo has shown us that, repeatedly, but that does not stop them from doing it. It’s up to you whether or not you accept it. That they are all jazzed up over 2%, is pretty telling.
May 19th, 2006 at 1:21 amCyra if you go to the link and follow the daily poll released this is the low for this slanted poll, which should be higher because this firm slants their polls to the right by asking more repugs, but in another post above #49 I pasted their list and the freefall of Bush’s poll numbers becomes apparant .
May 19th, 2006 at 1:27 amBush’s approval rating is steadaly falling even by Ramussens account see thier site http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm
May 19th, 2006 at 2:00 amCampaign for progressive legislation http://www.zazzle.com/maximus7
May 19th, 2006 at 2:14 amI stopped watching CNN in November 2005. They usually have right wingers and moderate democrats and not very many to the left of Alan Colmes.
May 19th, 2006 at 2:16 amSorry to have just tuned in.
I was looking at some of the speculation above, about which polls have what kind of bias. Here’s a guy who does that sort of thing for a living — and blogs about it for free. He recommends that when you get to one of his pages you “Click a graph, and click again for best resolution”: Political Arithmetik, 5/18/06
He doesn’t follow every poll there is, only a generous helping of the ones he finds most reliable. He then analyzes the living crap out of his data, adjusting for “house effects” and everything else. His latest results simply show Bush continuing to drop like an anvil.
Prof. Franklin has already raised the question: Is there a limit to how low presidential approval can go? (3/4/06) His answer seems to be: it depends on who’s still left out there to get turned off to Bush.
May 19th, 2006 at 2:43 amOkay, for some reason I’m not able to post links, so here is the story from msnbc
The tragedy moves on
May 19th, 2006 at 6:26 amTheir lie still goes on
And My Lai echoes
CNN’s ineptitude is exactly why I started the Pollkatz site five years (!) ago. You have to compare Rasmussen to Rasmussen, Gallup to Gallup, Pew to Pew. If you compare the Apple Poll to the Orange Poll, you’re going to find all kinds of inexplicable “bounces.”
May 19th, 2006 at 7:10 amAgain, This particular “bounce” is limited to one issue, and one issue only: Immigration.
The problem is, that particular detail is buried in the story. Corporate* Media. Go figure.
*I no longer feel like calling it “Main Stream Media” as it seems out-of-touch with the mainstream. Corporate Media is more appropriate, I think, because it represents Corporate Interests.
May 19th, 2006 at 7:57 amKrugman asks some good questions today.
May 19th, 2006 at 8:08 amI KIND OF EXPECT HIM TO BOUNCE AROUND IN THE 30s FOR THE REST OF HIS TERM.
IT’S ANNOYING THEY’RE MAKING IT INTO A BIG COMEBACK, BECAUSE HE’S REALLY JUST BOUNCING ALONG THE BOTTOM, BUT THAT’S THE CORPORATE MEDIA FOR YOU.
May 19th, 2006 at 8:13 am#22:
You know, that’s interesting.
Earlier this week, I saw another headline on CNN’s Home Page, claiming Bush’s immigration speech did well with viewers. But, when reading the story, I noticed Schneider was quoted as saying that those speeches always poll well because Bush supporters are the only ones who watch them and, in fact, the immigration speech still polled worse than most of Bush’s other speeches.
I was going to capture the the Home Page headline and send it to CNN with Scheider’s quote and say: “Hey! Your own expert disagrees with your headline. What gives?”
But, before I had a chance, the headline was changed to something more truthful….something about Republican Congressmen vowing to fight Bush on it.
Not sure if that was the case here, but, if so, I wonder if they have some little Neocon working with their Web site, who’s putting up headlines favorable to Bush. Then, some editor or another is catching them and changing them?
May 19th, 2006 at 8:22 amummm… we call every point drop a plummet. guess we can let them call a small uptick a bounce. let’s not get too carried away, ok?
May 19th, 2006 at 8:29 am(Check the POLL numbers during the Civil War – you might be surprised where our country might be had we RELIED on polls…)
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 18, 2006 @ 7:17 pm
They did polls during the Civil War? Can anyone whose opinion I respect confirm this “factoid”? I mean, polls are pure bullshit anyway, but I find it hard to believe that they could go around the country questioning people on issues and still gather the results in time to have any relevance to the discussion. After all, the Civil War did pre-date telephones. So how would they collect opinions from all across the country?
If there really was some kind of polling during the Civil War (other than the November elections), then I apologize.
May 19th, 2006 at 8:52 amHey Mitey Ass-bitey,
May 19th, 2006 at 8:55 amI was not involved in your lame ‘discussion’, and did not direct any post toward your man-chimp supporting dome, so take a hike.
Watch out folks, at this rate he’ll be popular again in 2014.
May 19th, 2006 at 9:00 amSG, you can’t post links like the video I just watched. George Bush will never pull out of the Saragasso Sea of Oblivion.
George Bush is toast. Hit him with an acoustic weapon. Shout him down continuously until he is deaf.
The Republicans are toast.
They’ll never recover from their criminal behavior and betrayal of the American people.
There they were… gone. Good.
May 19th, 2006 at 9:06 am#126 You have to compare Rasmussen to Rasmussen, Gallup to Gallup, Pew to Pew. If you compare the Apple Poll to the Orange Poll, you’re going to find all kinds of inexplicable “bounces.â€
Exactly. I keep telling people, when they say we shouldn’t take the poll numbers for granted, that it’s not the numbers–it’s the trend. Bush has been trending downward for months in every poll. There is no discernible upturn in the polls in CNN’s story. They are clearly trying to spin this for Bush.
May 19th, 2006 at 9:45 amBush could have a higher rating if he spread democracy in both Mexico & Venezula, as his dad did in panama.
May 19th, 2006 at 12:45 pmBush is at 36% in the Rasmussen (Republican) poll.
This is Bush’s lowest rating ever in that poll.
75% of the people were polled “AFTER” el Presidente gave his big prime time speech on immigration. Obviously, the American people aren’t buying it! I think it has reached the point where the American people have figured this president out and their opinions of him have solidified. No matter what he says or does now can give him a bounce…….The coup de grace will be if Karl Rove gets indicted as expected
he will sink even lower, the question is “how low can he get?
This President is history……Only 15% of the peole “Strongly approve” of this President.
May 19th, 2006 at 12:56 pmI’d like to know who those 15% are. It’s looking more and more that
“I think I threw up, just a little in my mouth. Yeah, mighty aphrodite, you are a pillar in this society.” – Comment by Spudge_Boy
May 19th, 2006 at 12:58 pm*****Dear Sponge – I’m sorry to hear you’re not feeling well….
This “TOPIC” is a sad testament to the infuriating frustration that many of us Progressives feel today…
…in regard to the criminal Bushite junta…
…lacking the resolve, and ability to arrest, impeach, imprison and destroy the criminally inept, corrupt and TREASONOUS President and his corporate cabal…
…”we the people” are pitifully grasping (as signs of HOPE) ANY morsel of negative news on scum Bushiva, L’il Dick et al…
…we long for accountability, JUSTICE and a return to sanity…
…we want desperately for the corrupt ELITISTS occupying the halls of Congress, the White House, the airwaves and in corporate America…
…to pay for their war crimes, crimes against humanity, TREASON, destruction of the poor/middle/working class’ social safety net, loss of civil rights/liberties, moral authority /global reputation and general loss of TRUST and FAITH in our government (and way of life)…
…so here we are, lapping up the meaning of headlines… :(
May 19th, 2006 at 1:35 pmDear Wayne – Thank you for the informational tidbit re: the lack of telephones in the 19th century!! Polling places were the place most political polling was done when people voted. Another historical snapshot is found in the newspapers, riots, and orators of the day. As the Civil War dragged on, support for the war diminished and Lincoln had to persevere to maintain support.
As a progressive I’m sure you’ll be proud to know the Democrat Party has a “long and illustrious” history of opposing war and proposing “cut and run” scenarios. Northern Dems (Copperheads)were especially upset that President Lincoln “chose” to make the Civil War a campaign issue. (As opposed to the Southern Dems who were blatantly IN FAVOUR of slavery.) (I guess history DOES reapeat itself!!) From http://www.worldhistory.com:
“Copperheads vehemently criticized him for violating the Constitution, overstepping the bounds of executive power, refusing to compromise on slavery, declaring Abraham Lincoln/1864 election and second inauguration
May 19th, 2006 at 1:35 pmThe Democrats, hoping to make setbacks in the war a top campaign issue, waited until late summer to nominate a candidate. Their platform was heavily influenced by the Peace wing of the party, calling the war a “failure,” but their candidate, former General George McClellan, was a War Democrat, determined to prosecute the war until the Union was restored, although willing to compromise on all other issues, including slavery.”
“They are in my view the most insidious traitors”.
-George Herbert Walker Bush- (when in office)
…on leakers of CIA agents names…
There’s currently a GREAT television PSA commericial on the airwaves…
…parallelling the TRAITOR Bushiva’s Sept.2003 comments about how he’d fire any leaker in his administration…
…and those of his father above…
Look for it…
May 19th, 2006 at 1:42 pmHey geniuses, the plus or minus sampling error is not what you think it is.
Plus or minus 3-percent means that if the pollsters redo the poll, they will be accurate plus or minus 3-percent of the actual results 97 percent of the time.
It has to do with the validity of the sample.
Now I don’t expect you Einsteins to be able to comprehend that…
So in the meantime why don’t you take a statistics class and kiss my Republican a–!
May 19th, 2006 at 2:21 pmBrent, i don’t think the Republicans can count on their asses being smooched anymore by ordinary citizens, not yours, not BushCos. Maybe you can still get a GOP politician to kiss it for you. Try Santorum.
May 19th, 2006 at 2:54 pmBrent,
Opinion polls are pure bullshit and a misuse of statistics. It’s one thing to say that there’s a statistical certainty that some natural event will happen within a certain time frame. But when you’re talking about the opinions of human beings, you can’t extrapolate from what a couple of thousand (at most) people think to determine what 300,000,000 people think! The results would have to depend on too many unprovable assumptions, the not least significant of which is did the person answering the questions knows enough about the subject to give an informed answer? And most of the time this will not be the case. It also depends on everyone giving truthful answers. That ABCNews poll that claimed 66% of the public didn’t have a problem with the warrantless spying programs was based on, like, 500 people. And the question mentioned nothing about the controversy over whether or not the program was constitutional. So the “results” were pure fantasy, with no basis in reality.
You cannot ask 1000 ill-informed people what they think to determine what 300,000,000 sometimes better-informed people think.
May 19th, 2006 at 4:15 pm[...] New Poll Finds Bush Approval Stuck In Mid-30s, CNN Calls It A …Think Progress, DC - 23 hours agoCNN just reported that President Bush s new job approval rating is at 36 percent, suggesting it was a bounce for President Bush. . … [...]
May 19th, 2006 at 4:19 pmAs opposed to the Southern Dems who were blatantly IN FAVOUR of slavery.) (I guess history DOES reapeat itself!!) From http://www.worldhistory.com:
Comment by Mighty Hypocrite
Mighty Hypocrite,
May 19th, 2006 at 9:10 pmFor more recent history, from the very same http://www.worldhistory.com, you can read about Nixon’s southern strategy and the switchover by the southern Democrats to the Republican Party in the 1960s, starting with prominent segregationist Strom Thurmond (a hypocrite who fathered a child with a 16-year old maid in his house):
“On September 16, 1964; Thurmond switched his party affiliation, becoming a Republican in protest of the Democrats’ support and President Johnson’s shepherding of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Thurmond played an important role in building Republican support in the South, which was overwhelmingly Democrat prior to the early 1960s. He campaigned on behalf of Richard Nixon”
bounce this you lying sack of monkey crap.
bush lies so much, he has to get someone else to call his dog
May 19th, 2006 at 11:45 pmBut this isn’t a bounce. Bush’s early May approval rating was 34 percent. Each poll has an error of +/-3 points, meaning Bush’s numbers haven’t changed at all.
Yet you idiots never miss a chance to report it moving 1% and apparently know you are making an issue out of nothing when you do.
May 20th, 2006 at 7:05 amSo CNN has been wrong once and you’re wrong every week. Great stuff.
So CNN has been wrong once and you’re wrong every week. Great stuff.
Comment by Tank — May 20, 2006 @ 7:05 am
Do you actually believe the nonsense you post?
Bush’s ratings are in the toilet, have been for months, and you’re whining over whether of not teh toilet seat cover is a shade of cranberry or red? Shoo now. You’re not mentally qualified to be here in a public forum – speaking.
May 20th, 2006 at 7:34 amI just finished reading a fairly recent state by state poll measuring The Idiot Bush’s approval rating vs his disapproval rating. Only 4 western states give Bush an approval rating between 51%-55%,
14 states give The Idiot an approval rating between 40%-49%, 24 states come in with an approval rating of 30%-39%, and 8 states give him between 24%-29% approval rating.
This poll is about a month old, but the results have been about the same for several months now.
Those 4 states in which 50% or more of it’s citizens are as insane as The Shrub probably wouldn’t change their outlook towards The Idiot Bush unless he admitted to the country that those direct one on one talks this psychotic President has admitted to having with God were really dry drunk hallucinations, and he’ll be getting treated for them just prior to serving his jail time.
Did it ever occur to anyone that when Bush is brought up on criminal charges he’ll try to claim ‘insanity’ as his defense. Who in the Hell could ever argue against that? Most people, other than fundamentalist Bible thumpers and our ‘ordained’ President, who wander around talking to God in one on one conversations have either been, or currently are in psychiatric instituions.
The President walks around convinced he’s been ordained by God to be our President, and in addition to this insanity, he has one-on-one conversations with GOD. He’s not mentally stable, and that’s what people around the country are beginning to see, but are not quite ready to admit to themselves exactly what it is they’re picking up on about Bush. HE’S CLINICALLY INSANE FOLKS!
GOOGLE “DRY DRUNK” AND SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH… AND WHILE YOU’RE AT IT, IF YOU WANT AN GREAT LAUGH, GOOGLE “ASSHOLE” AND HIT “I FEEL LUCK”, YOU’LL HOWL WITH LAUGHTER.
May 20th, 2006 at 11:50 pmEd,
thanks for the links. I noticed “Dry Drunk” was written in October of ‘02. Too bad it didn’t get more press time back then. Too bad it’s not getting enough press time now, as Bush seems to have refocused his aggressions on Iran.
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