On Wednesday, the Competitive Enterprise Institute – a front group funded by ExxonMobil and other big oil companies – launched two advertisements in response to Al Gore’s new movie about global warming, An Inconvenient Truth.
One of the advertisements attempts to show that the scientific evidence for global warming is in dispute, claiming a study found the “Antarctic ice sheet is getting thicker, not thinner.â€
The primary author of that study, Curt Davis, has issued statement blasting CEI’s use of his study. Here’s an excerpt:
These television ads are a deliberate effort to confuse and mislead the public about the global warming debate. They are selectively using only parts of my previous research to support their claims. They are not telling the entire story to the public.
The whole story, according to Davis, is that increased precipitation in the interior of Antarctica is “predicted consequence of global climate warming.†Warmer temperatures mean more participation and more snow on the interior of the continent. Meanwhile, “Growth of the ice sheet was only noted on the interior of the ice sheet and did not include coastal areas. Coastal areas are known to be losing mass.â€
The reality is, there are no legitimate scientists or scientific studies that support CEI’s views on global warming. So they are forced to grossly misrepresent scientific research. Unfortunately for them, the scientists don’t look like they are going to put up with it.
Two things:
May 20th, 2006 at 6:31 pm1)I heard part of the CEI spot today, and it is unintentionally hilarious.
2)Can’t we just ignore these people, and maybe they’ll go away? Why is it every time somebody misrepresents something, there is an attempt made to correct the lie? The issue is out there, everyone knows the truth - even those, especially those! - trying to deny it. Just do your job, and let them bleat.
‘Warmer temperatures mean more participation and more snow on the interior of the continent.’
I’ll be the first to nitpick, but I think it would cause more precipitation. Warmer temps usually cause people to kick back and do less when it’s warmer out, not participate more.
Sorry for the smartass comment.
May 20th, 2006 at 6:39 pmjudd–is it “participation” or “precipitation?”
May 20th, 2006 at 6:40 pm3 - chisholm,
May 20th, 2006 at 6:45 pmGee, you’re quick. Thank God, I did a refresh before I sent my post.
Unfortunately for them, the scientists don’t look like they are going to put up with it.
Good. Knowledge is power, and we need to get more and more of it to the public.
May 20th, 2006 at 6:51 pmThanks, everyone. I’ve fixed the post so it says precipitation.
May 20th, 2006 at 6:57 pmDavis says,
“The fact that the interior ice sheet is growing is a predicted consequence of global climate warming.”
Well that makes no sense at all. What a bunch of horse crap. And he also admits the ice cap is not receding on the eastern shore. Let me know when it starts getting warmer, because it’s not getting any warmer in Homer, AK.
May 20th, 2006 at 7:26 pm> Can’t we just ignore these people,
> and maybe they’ll go away? Why is
> it every time somebody misrepresents
> something, there is an attempt made
> to correct the lie?
That’s the strategy Gore chose, and it cost him the margin he should have gotten in the 2000 election.
That’s the strategy Kerry chose, and it cost him the 2004 election.
As Clinton is fond of saying, they will keep doing it as long as it works. And it does.
May 20th, 2006 at 7:27 pmyou’re welcome, judd… i was trying to NOT embarrass you publicly…
May 20th, 2006 at 7:34 pmThe oil companies are blinded by their own greed. Unless they have an excape rocket, they are still living on the same planet. I guess they figure with enough money they can avoid any problems from global warming. How will they cope with public reaction when they are shown to be theiving liars?
May 20th, 2006 at 7:34 pmJust for a little refresher course in case you missed this post earlier in the week:
CEI Founder on Global Warming: ‘It Looks Pretty Good…We’re Moving To A More Benign Planet.’
CEI’s founder, Fred Smith, was on Crossfire years ago talking about how “global warming was actually a good thing because of all the cool new crops we could grow.â€
Mr. SMITH: Look, the point- what we do know and don’t know, we know that carbon dioxide is increasing. We know carbon dioxide is a plant fertilizer which is a positive benefit to the peoples of the world. We know that there are these elaborate computer models that have never been right before, may be right this time, that suggest climate changes, possibly good, possibly bad. Most of the indications right now are it looks pretty good. Warmer winters, warmer nights, no effects during the day because of clouding, sounds to me like we’re moving to a more benign planet, more rain, richer, easier productivity to agriculture-
That’s right, folks. We should all be happier that the world is getting warmer. Yup, that way, we can all experience the weather of the Carribbean. You know… nice days, nice nights, hurricanes. That stuff.
May 20th, 2006 at 7:38 pmProf. Davis received many emails from people outraged by CEI’s deception, including me. He was kind enough to respond to my email and send the link to his public response. I would be surprised if Davis wasn’t outraged himself.
Thank you, Curt Davis for speaking out, and thank you Judd for posting this.
May 20th, 2006 at 7:43 pmThis is mildly off-topic. I was just reading something about Iran and bellicosity and oil, and I started to think….Suppose Iran gets a nuke. Suppose they start to impose their will around the oil-producing world. I agree that the oil consumers can’t get along without the net-exporters of oil. But, is Iran likely to stifle its only meaningful source of revenue? There is plenty of room for negotiation in this so-called face-off with Iran. Perhaps someone should remind the Pols about that.
May 20th, 2006 at 8:01 pmThe mainstream media has on occasion refused to run some liberal political ads. Will they run this one, even though the author of the study they quote has repudiated the ad and said that it is intended to confuse and mislead the public? Anyone want to place bets?
Perhaps some progressive site ought to promote a campaign to the networks to refuse the ads on the grounds that they are untruthful.
May 20th, 2006 at 8:13 pmEnvironmental moonbats are invogorated having “morally superior” causes. (Everyone needs to feel NEEDED!) I realize it is VERY disconcerting, BUT this is not the first cyclical climate change. MANY glacial expansions and recessions have occurred in the last billion years. Maybe progs should consider “volcano boycotts” - I know it sounds far-fetched, but those damn volcanos are RESPONSIBLE for tearing holes in the ozone layer with their eruptions!!! Forget the fact they recycle through subduction! (I HATE to break this to you - - but vile mankind is not the ONLY reason climate changes occur….)
May 20th, 2006 at 8:24 pmMrs. Boucoup McMillions, educate yourself, as Clams Casino suggested. The warmer the ocean is, the faster the rate of evaporation. Excess moisture in the air causes an increase in precipitation.
May 20th, 2006 at 8:26 pmGod help us the Bush Regime and Corporate Elite are even lying about Global Warming to try to cover-up the fact that the ice caps at the polls are melting quickly! If the ice on Greenland melts the oceans will rise 10 to 15 feet, which means half of Florida would go under water and low lying areas like New Orleans! It is a long term disaster in the making!!!
May 20th, 2006 at 8:33 pmDear Clams - Who/what was to BLAME for all the previous climate changes? How on earth (no pun intended) did the world SURVIVE without benevolent environmentalists to march in and save the day?
May 20th, 2006 at 8:41 pmHey, MA.
Yes. There have been cyclical climate changes in the past. But those happened over a period EONS. THOUSANDS of years.
10 of the warmest years ever recorded happened in the past 14 years.
Why are you afraid of science? I know it’s tough for neo-conservatives to believe in something that has some facts behind it.
May 20th, 2006 at 8:44 pmHow on earth (no pun intended) did the world SURVIVE without benevolent environmentalists to march in and save the day?
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 20, 2006 @ 8:41 pm
Oh… the earth survived. But hundereds of species died out due to the climate changes.
Oh wait…. you don’t believe in evolution, do you? Hmmm… in that case, let me put it in words you’ll understand: God made it cold and then different animals went ‘POOF!’
May 20th, 2006 at 8:47 pmDear Clams - Who/what was to BLAME for all the previous climate changes? How on earth (no pun intended) did the world SURVIVE without benevolent environmentalists to march in and save the day?
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 20, 2006 @ 8:41 pm
Google “methane hydrate.” If temperatures rise at the rate currently predicted, it will release so much stored methane that it could extinguish life as we know it (as has happened before in Earth’s history).
And MA will use her last choking breath to say ” (I HATE to break this to you - - but vile mankind is not the ONLY reason climate changes occur….)”
May 20th, 2006 at 8:51 pmbobcat_grad, saying climate changes of this magnitude happened over thousands of years is a bit too conservative (no pun intended) an estimate.
May 20th, 2006 at 8:58 pmThanks, everyone. I’ve fixed the post so it says precipitation.
May 20th, 2006 at 9:02 pmComment by Judd — May 20, 2006 @ 6:57 pm - - Nope, not at this time/date stamp you haven’t: “Warmer temperatures mean more participation and more snow on the interior of the continent.”
I believe in evolution - the difference between us - I believe God is the creator and designer.
Excuse me. How do you design random natural selection?
Hard to believe, but MAYBE it was their time “to goâ€.
Me, I see the extinction and discovery of new species as part of the evolutionary process.
I’d like you to meet my friend Charles. Charles Darwin. It seems the two of you have a lot in common.
May 20th, 2006 at 9:07 pmMaybe it’s “our time to go” too. Is that what you’re suggesting? Some of us prefer not to speed up that process.
May 20th, 2006 at 9:12 pmWHY DO GLACIERS HATE AMERICA
May 20th, 2006 at 9:20 pmAh yes, conservative wackos have two arguments left: We don’t know, and there’s nothing we can do about it anyway.
Talk about your bold new ideas!
May 20th, 2006 at 9:44 pmI just landed a lucrative consulting job at CEI, and I discovered a climate science paper with the word “snow” in it. This effectively disproves global warming. Now fire up those SUVs we’ve got a lot of gas to burn through!
May 20th, 2006 at 9:46 pmDNA is packed into chromosomes which provide the blueprint that provides the construct for every species on Earth and perhaps the Universe. Viruses have only fragments of the DNA sequences that describe human beings, animals, plants, bacteria and other species. Unfortunately some sequences are shared between species. That is the reason that the swine flu wrought havoc in the early 1900’s. The current avian flu has not yet found a hitch in the human genome. This, in effect, means that it can attack an individual human on a cellular level but the human cannot easily transmit the disease to another human.
May 20th, 2006 at 9:51 pmMIghty Mouth is hopelessly clueless. Evolution and Intelligent Design are contrasting terms.
Evolution says that we evolved from a single celled organism billions of years ago. While, “Intelligent’ Design says that a god made everything that is alive exactly the way it is. You can’t accept Evolution (you don’t ‘believe in’ Science Mighty Mouth), and believe in Intelligent Design simultaneously. It’s like accepting that the Earth is round while also believeing that it is flat.
May 20th, 2006 at 10:09 pm[…] Via Think Progressive comes some news regarding those Manbearpig ads that purport that CO2 isn’t pollution, it’s life itself: On Wednesday, the Competitive Enterprise Institute – a front group funded by ExxonMobil and other big oil companies – launched two advertisements in response to Al Gore’s new movie about global warming, An Inconvenient Truth. […]
May 20th, 2006 at 10:17 pmOh that is total bias. You cannot just hide the fact from this website’s visitors that a Democratic Congressman is being investiaged by the FBI in charges of bribery. If it was a republican it would be all over in this site.
Better confronting it than hiding it. Seriously hope it won’t affect the outcome of the 2006 elections.
May 20th, 2006 at 10:22 pmOh that is total bias. You cannot just hide the fact from this website’s visitors that a Democratic Congressman is being investiaged by the FBI in charges of bribery. If it was a republican it would be all over in this site.
Better confronting it than hiding it. Seriously hope it won’t affect the outcome of the 2006 elections.
May 20th, 2006 at 10:22 pmOh that is total bias. You cannot just hide the fact from this website’s visitors that a Democratic Congressman is being investiaged by the FBI in charges of bribery. If it was a republican it would be all over in this site.
Better confronting it than hiding it. Seriously hope it won’t affect the outcome of the 2006 elections.
May 20th, 2006 at 10:22 pmSimple solution. Put all oil execs in an atmosphere of pure CO2. After 2 hours, let them testify to its benefits.
May 20th, 2006 at 10:23 pmHaving had enough of Corporate greed, I called Citibank to close my credit card account that I just paid off. Of course, they have to transfer me to a ‘Account Specialist’ whose wole purpose is to talk me out of closingthe account because I’m one of the responsible ones who pays my bills on time.
So, I tell the guy that I’m closing my account because I’m tired of the Corporate Greed of companies like Citibank. I wanted it on the record that someone is sick of them. Of course he has to tell me he understands.
“You work for them.” I reminded him. “You help them perpetuate their greed against the average American who is having to choose between food and gas”.
He seems to want to win me over. Offers me zero interest for an entire year to not think poorly of a man with five kids. I bite my tongue. Five kids is greedy too. “Nope, I just want to send a message to your share holders by refusing to do business with your company that couldn’t care less about the plight of teh middle class. Close the account.” When I know that he’s closed the account, I thank him and end the call.
That felt good. Like I stood up for something I believe in. Stood up to the Corporate Greed and showed them that at least someone has had enough.
May 20th, 2006 at 10:43 pmum… no one’s hiding anything… today’s fbi search of the d.c. office is new, as in 7pm tonight new… but, see:
ThinkFast: May 18, 2006
…
After 16 months of inaction, the House ethics committee will begin bribery investigations into Reps. Bob Ney (R-OH) and William Jefferson (D-LA). Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX) will escape scrutiny from the committee because he will be leaving Congress next month, breaking Chairman Doc Hasting’s (R-WA) Apr. 2005 pledge to investigate the former House Majority Leader.
…
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 05/ 18/ thinkfast-may-18-2006/
interesting that it took a democrat to get that “ethics committee” off their asses to begin investigations…
May 20th, 2006 at 10:50 pmhere you go marc - get your fill of what the “culture of corruption” is all about:
May 20th, 2006 at 10:54 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/?tag=Corruption
Better confronting it than hiding it. Seriously hope it won’t affect the outcome of the 2006 elections.
Comment by Marc — May 20, 2006 @ 10:22 pm
One guy?
I went to check it out for myself. It just happened tonight. And it’s just one guy. As opposed to how many Republicans? So many for bribery, pornography, lying to grand huries, etc. that I’ve lost count…
And you throw a hissy fit over one Democrat. Wow…
May 20th, 2006 at 10:58 pm#39 Unbelievable, nice going with Citibank. Just today I was thinking that it might be fun to drive into an Exxon station and ask for directions to the nearest Citgo.
May 20th, 2006 at 11:01 pmfun to drive into an Exxon station and ask for directions to the nearest Citgo.
Comment by Lily — May 20, 2006 @ 11:01 pm
I dare you ; )
Not that I expect the sheep to get it and do anything. I mean, I just saw that Ray Nagin got enough votes today for the Mayor’s race for it to be declared too close to call. I thought he would have been lucky to walk away with just the votes of his friends and family. Astounding. He may have actually been re-elected. The guy who could have put people on empty buses and planes to evacuate them and didn’t.
May 20th, 2006 at 11:08 pm#39
May 20th, 2006 at 11:33 pmCongratulations on paying off your credit card, and on closing your account. Hopefully you still have one though, it can be pretty inconvenient to do some business transactions without one—renting a car, buying anything online… they’re also nice in emergencies. I’m sure you only sounded like a nut to that poor guy at Citibank, and I’m also sure that one measley account being closed will never draw the attention of the shareholders. Good luck in your journey to stand up to corporate greed here in the USA—you’ll either need to become Amish, start a commune, or leave the country. I hope you’ll still write.
I see- if ya can’t find a place to rant about what you want then just jump right in anywhere and blabber away. Even the article to which we are attempting to comment about is weak “unfortunately……”- the last sentence- Unfortunately my ass. What is unfortunate is the simple fact that no matter how hard we try to get major media coverage of anything that we present we are rejected; anytime our representatives try and introduce bills or amendments presenting our positions on the disgraceful bills being presented, voted on and passed, we can’t even get to talk on the bills; every time we try and hold hearings or even discussions regarding pending goper sponsored actions we are put in the basement or other such disgraces. And I could continue but what the hell.
May 20th, 2006 at 11:34 pmWe are to blame. Our choices have been embarassments. Our inability to act as a serious directed and focused party at least a third of our reps bail on the party position. It is a effing joke.
So I say- since there is no where to turn and the gov is completely controlled and the dems don’t truly give a eff- ya all can simply go to hell. NO MORE SUPPORT FROM ME. AND I SUGGEST THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM IN THIS STABLE.
Was it Leary that coined it first- TURN ON TUNE IN AND DROP OUT!– or something like it.
It’s just a joke.
billjpa
#46
May 20th, 2006 at 11:53 pmChill bill,
The moment any politician embraced this global-warming topic, they’ve turned it into a politically motivated hysteria. I doubt that Democrat or Republican leaders even care about the facts. One side wants to feed off the hysteria for their own gain, and the other side wants to deny the whole thing. I’m sure there’s a balanced middleground here. You’re right, there’s nowhere to turn—you can’t count on politicians to really make a difference. Do what is in your power to do, then find a way to enjoy life—it’s too short to spend it in despair.
Credit Card companies are leaches and prey on people until they go into bankruptcy, but that is the rub now thanks to stupid Senators of both parties > you cannot file bankruptcy to get out from under credit card debt any longer! You have to go before a bankruptcy judge now who determines how much you must pay to your credit card debtors each month and the amount is taken from your pay check before you use it to pay other bills or food! Call it debtors prison, because you can never get out of debt untill the day you die > thank your worthless trash senators for screwing you over!
I am lucky that I was able to file for bankruptcy before the new law came into effect, so my debts are free and clear, which gave me a chance to start over in life! Credit card companies contact me all the time, but I tell them to screw off! I am free of the rat-race of debt!!!
May 20th, 2006 at 11:53 pmI don’t care. Let the environment kill me. Nagin won the election here in New Orleans. We are all depressed. Our hope is diminishing to nothing (down from nothing). I feel like our only option is to sell our house and try to imagine living in another city.
We have lost hope.
May 21st, 2006 at 12:45 amIt’s the same depression I felt when Bush was appointed in 2000, and won in 2004. I’m down.
May 21st, 2006 at 12:47 amIt’s OK in Bush world. We just do what we want to do and believe what we want to believe. It’s just OK.
-The Decider, Pickles and Turdblossom
Ha, ha, ha. I’m not laughing.
May 21st, 2006 at 12:54 amI didn’t see it till I read the comments and went back to look, but you’ve still got a participation in there.
May 21st, 2006 at 12:57 amI often wondered what recourse people should take in a situation like this. I use to think ignoring it was the appropriate action because one, why waste your time, and two, people are open minded, intelligent and they will know BS when they see or hear it. But the last couple of decades, and certainly the last 7 years have been astounding what people will believe. So what next, open public debate, back and forth. Or sue them, like some celebrities have been doing to tabloids. It will bring the issue to the forefront and possible provide an incentive for people to be more truthful.
The first African woman who won Nobel Peace Prize, Wangari Maathai, proved that the environment matters at a very fundamental level to peace and economic growth. True Christians know they are stewards of God’s creations. Respecting the planet is a family value.
One issue that doesn’t get enough attention is environmental racism, but it all comes from the same thinking as the CEI is doing here.
May 21st, 2006 at 1:04 amMrs. Boucoup McMillions just can’t take it.
Noooooooooooo, it cannot be that Al Gore was right all along. Nooooooooo
I will say that the Earth is flat if that’s what it takes but I will never ever admit that Gore was right and the wingnuts were wrong.
whine whine whine
Asshole, you know shit about climatology. That’s why it doesn’t make any sense to you. You have the same problem with the general relativity and quantum mechanics.
May 21st, 2006 at 2:00 amAntagonist,
Gore didn’t embrace the issue of global warming as a politician. He was one of the first people — yes people not just pols — who started to pay attention to it.
And there was no hysteria around it in 1980 when Gore — now as a politician — held the first hearings about the issue. Because noone in the political world, except Gore himself, cared about it.
May 21st, 2006 at 2:13 amLet me know when it starts getting warmer, because it’s not getting any warmer in Homer, AK.
Comment by Mrs. Boucoup McMillions — May 20, 2006 @ 7:26 pm
These people can probably tell you a thing or two about warmer temperatures and rising sea levels:
Evacuations have begun in Western Alaska, where rising sea levels will soon wipe out an Eskimo village.
May 21st, 2006 at 2:26 amHouse by house, the Alaskan Eskimo village of Shishmaref is falling into the ocean.
Shishmaref sits on an island a quarter of a mile across and two and a half miles long. Its 600 people are moving. They call themselves the first refugees of global warming.
Alaskan Eskimo Village Soon To Be Wiped Out
[…] From thinkprogress […]
May 21st, 2006 at 2:39 amYou are a moron. I am very well off and have never had a single credit card. If I want a car, I pay cash. WHatever I want, cash. I have a debit card, but that is tied directly to my cash. People don’t have to pay interest to a credit card company to get what they need in life. idiot.
May 21st, 2006 at 2:39 amYou know, I happen to think that Judd and Co. are Swift Boating these Global Warming ads. By continually linking to them and bringing them up, you remind people they are out there. These ads don’t even need to appear on TV to get buzz. It’s simply free advertising.
In 2004, the Swift Boat ads played just a few times on TV but were all over the Internet as people on both sides either cried fair or foul. Now, you’re doing it again with this CEI stuff by showing it and linking to it here. Just let it die.
May 21st, 2006 at 2:50 amPost 49 and 50 > I always wondered why Nagin kissed Bush’s butt so much > now I know why > Bush rigged the vote in New Orleans for him! If I was you I would sell my house before another category 5 hurricane completely destroys NO > Nagin caused people to drown in NO and then betrayed the entire population by kissing up to Bush, so expect God’s wrath again!
May 21st, 2006 at 2:56 am#58
May 21st, 2006 at 3:44 amNot everyone is well off asswipe. A lot of people have a credit card and use it when a special need arises—something they were’nt prepared for—and they pay it off as soon as they can.There’s nothing wrong with having a credit card if you use it responsibly. The fact that I have to even explain this shows what kind of arrogant asshole you are. Do you own a home? Do you pay interest on your mortgage—or are you so well off you can just pay cash for your house? I never said you had to have a credit card to get what you need in life—I said they were handy in some business transactions. Did you ever rent a car without a credit card? You have to put down a hefty deposit, and car rental companies won’t accept a debit card unless it’s a debit/credit card with a visa or mastercard logo on it. Credit is important in our culture, even potential employers will do a credit check on you. I’m sure your name wouldn’t even show up on credit reports though—being well off and paying cash for everything.
#55
May 21st, 2006 at 3:48 amGore is unhinged and part of the hysteria.
Antagonist is unhinged and a neo-con a$$wipe appologist, and I have been able to pay off all my bills House..car bike..and credit cards…yes I use them but pay the bill in full so I do not have to pay interest…use it as a 3-4 week interest free loan, which I get every month, it is nice to have no major bills over my head…but I also accept the limits I live within…much better than the vast majority of this planet…I have enough to eat each day and so does my daughter.
May 21st, 2006 at 4:40 amStrongest May cyclone on record rocks China
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/article548108.ece
But that is nothing as hurricanes and Cyclones(what they call Hurricanes in the pacific) are getting stronger as Antagonist says it is hysteria…unless you lose everything, then it is tragic but too late.
May 21st, 2006 at 5:18 amCEI is selectively using science to present their case? Wow, here I was thinking that Al Gore and his friends are doing the exact same thing. Razzle dazzle.
May 21st, 2006 at 6:52 amyou’ll either need to become Amish, start a commune, or leave the country. I hope you’ll still write.
Comment by Antagonist — May 20, 2006 @ 11:33 pm
Thanks. I’ve decided to only do buisness with smaller banks. No more mega-corporations. Just got a new credit card from a smaller local bank. Unfortunately, you’re right - it’s tough to live without one. I’ve had one since I was a junior in college.
I’m not looking for the extreme or the absolute. Just the least amount of Corporate America that I can get away with. I don’t work for them anymore. I don’t watch much television anymore. I don’t shop at mega-retail anymore. And so on.
The guy at Citibank actually seemed pretty traumatized that I lumped him with Corporate America. I think I hurt his feelings - which wasn’t the intention. I just wanted to make a statement and well, it was his job to take it. I didn’t ask to talk to him. He is there solely to talk me out of leaving. I got the feeling he’d never considered that he is an accomplice to ‘the man’ before. He kept saying “I’m just like you. I’m not Corporate myself.” He didn’t want to be seen as part of the problem. But he is.
I know, I’ve been boycotting Exxon for years and I clearly didn’t make a dent considering their record profits. But, that mindset is beginning to catch on and eventually it might make a difference. A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. And ever since I gave up religion, I’m not afraid to take it - or of much else. Even if I’m walking alone for a while. I don’t mind.
May 21st, 2006 at 8:16 amSeixon
When did they install the internet in your Kintergarten? “But Billy did it too!” is a 4 year olds excuse.
May 21st, 2006 at 8:21 amCredit card companies contact me all the time, but I tell them to screw off! I am free of the rat-race of debt!!!
Comment by Jay Randal — May 20, 2006 @ 11:53 pm
Good for you! Feels good doesn’t it? I had to learn the hard way myself that when you owe people money - they own you. Last year I decided to unplug myself from the Matrix and start a simplier life. Six months after walking away from consummerism, I went to get a massage for my birthday. The masseuse told me that I really didn’t have any knots or tension like most people she sees. It sort of surprised her.
I think this is part of the reason we are the least healthy industrialized nation in the world. Significantly so, in fact. Stress is slow suicide.
We really have to change our culture. There’s so much more to life than money.
May 21st, 2006 at 8:22 amOff topic, but…
“When you owe people money - they own you”
Somehow, I feel that would make a very good bumper sticker.
May 21st, 2006 at 8:26 amWe have lost hope.
Comment by Vaughn D. Taylor — May 21, 2006 @ 12:45 am
So sorry to hear that. I was appalled that he was even in the final race. Who votes for the man that was partly responsible for the massive catastrophe that ruined so many people’s lives? What is wrong with people? It’s not a freaking popularity contest.
Don’t give up. Just call Mr. Nagin every week and ask him how things are coming along. Make sure he’s out there looking at the levees, and badgering the government to fix them. Hold him accountable. It is his job to look out for New Orleans - not collect a paycheck.
May 21st, 2006 at 8:31 amCEI is selectively using science to present their case? Wow, here I was thinking that Al Gore and his friends are doing the exact same thing. Razzle dazzle.
Comment by Seixon — May 21, 2006 @ 6:52 am
Seixon you really don’t think before you hit the post button, do you?
Not even close to the same thing. Exxon is looking after their own best interests (that’s called selfish) by spinning the truth. Al Gore is looking after the best interests of the planet (that’s called philanthropic) by revealing the truth.
May 21st, 2006 at 8:36 amSomehow, I feel that would make a very good bumper sticker.
Comment by Bruce Gorton — May 21, 2006 @ 8:26 am
My favorite is “If you can’t trust a woman with a choice, how can you trust her with a child?”
May 21st, 2006 at 8:38 amAs for Carbon Dioxide emissions - we need to send a rocketship to the planet Venus with these CEI Scientists and Exxon big shots in them..
The planet is relatively the same size as Earth, not that much closer to the sun, and has an atmosphere that is mostly CO2. Some sulfuric acid.
There’s a reason nothing lives on Venus. The atmosphere is very heavy, toxic, and doesn’t let the sun shine through the thick layer of Carbon Dioxide gas. Due to the intense Greenhouse Effect there, Venus routinely gets hot enough to melt lead on its surface.
May 21st, 2006 at 8:43 amWhen the Sea comes in (When the Ship Comes In, Reprise)
Oh soon the time will be up
And the wind’s won’t stop
And the geese will cease to be breathin
Like the silence in the wind
‘Fore when the hurricanes begin
The hour when the sea comes in
Oh big oil will spit
Until the seas all hit
Their homes and their profit margins
As the lies they pound
Will in the truth be drowned
That they doomed all the humans
Oh the fish’s final sigh
As the seagulls die
From the poison gas we’ve been spewing
All the rocks will be stained
With all the blood black gold gained
The hour that the sea comes in
And the words that are used
Won’t get the sea confused
Mercy will be neither known nor spoken
For the chains of the sea
Were melted in the night
And we’ll be buried at the bottom of the ocean
No song will lift
No mainsail will shift
The boats will be drifting to the shoreline
The sun will scorch the bones
of the proud on their thrones
The hour that the sea comes in
The skies will roll
Like a carpet of mold
With ragged brown amongst the grey thunder
The scientists will be silent
As the storms won’t relent
The hour that the seas come in
And they’ll raise their hands
May 21st, 2006 at 9:01 amPraying they met their god’s demands
But he won’t be answering their numbers
For they broke it all
And they caused the fall
And the hour that the seas come in.
As Bill Clinton’s vice-president, Mr Gore helped negotiate the Kyoto treaty on climate change, but Mr Bush refused to sign it.
“It’s just human nature to take time to connect the dots,†he tells a captivated audience, but “there can be a day of reckoning, when you wished you’d connected the dots more quicklyâ€.
On screen, Mr Gore – derisively dubbed “Ozone Man†by the first President Bush – is part environmental evangelist, part stand-up comic. A hit at this year’s Sundance festival, the film shows him tapping on his laptop, pulling his luggage through airports, delivering his message.
“That was a hard blow,†he says of the 2000 defeat. “But what do you do? You make the most of it.â€
Mr Gore’s message is stark. “We are witnessing a collision between our civilisation and the Earth,†he says, and he set himself a goal to communicate this point as clearly as possible. “The only way I know to do it is city by city, person by person, family by family.†That sounds a lot like a political campaign.
Peter Knight, a long-time adviser to Mr Gore who is now a partner with him at Generation Investment Management, says his old friend is trying to make a difference. “I think what he’s doing now is what he really loves doing.â€
http://news.ft.com/ cms/ s/ 35b61390-e75c-11da-9046-0000779e2340.html
May 21st, 2006 at 9:21 amMy gut feeling is that this hurricane season will not have as many storms as last year, but the ones that do form will end up worse and more powerful than Katrina! Imagine a category 5 cane with 175 mph sustained winds, with gusts to 200 mph, and a storm surge of 30 feet hitting Miami, Florida, dead on > it would basically level the city of 6 million people; destroy all the hotels on the beaches; probably kill by debris or drown about 100,000 and injure thousands; about one trillion in insured damages and billions more un-insured! FEMA would NOT be able to handle the situation, and since Dubya Dunce Decider is president he would send in the military, and hire Blackwater mercenary thugs to shoot poor people! A few million would flee Florida to other states never to return, so this would make Katrina look small since only a couple hundred thousand fled New Orleans to settle in other states!
May 21st, 2006 at 9:26 ammighty aphrodite should simply be ignored. Her postings on this forum are consistently incorrect and she refuses to cite sources for her assertions. She obviously believes a debate simply means putting forth your personal viewpoints without any facts to back them up. Of course, that is par for the course for the moronic conservatives that run this country — until November.
May 21st, 2006 at 9:34 amNote: New Orleans was never hit directly by the eye wall of Katrina > it was basically a flood that breeched the levees on a canal > winds in NO only reached up to 100 mph, but that was enough to almost rip the roof off the Superdome and shattered windows in the high rise hotels, so imagine what 150 mph winds would have done to NO > French Quarter would have been completely destroyed and Major Nagin would be selling Internet service in another state!
May 21st, 2006 at 9:36 amMayor not major lol
May 21st, 2006 at 9:40 amBreaking news: FBI just searched the Congressional offices of Rep. William Jefferson who represents New Orleans district of Louisiana. He is being charged with extortion and bribery. He claims he is innocent and that Bush/GOP are taking him down as a vendetta for Rep. DeLay.
May 21st, 2006 at 9:58 am[…] Related: Climate Scientist To CEI: Stop Misrepresenting My Research « House panel boosts Bush plan to build new nuclear warheads: Many arms control experts say idea is huge waste of money […]
May 21st, 2006 at 11:51 amJust a note of caution regarding the push for offshore drilling. One of the major aspects of that activity, one that has kept it from being undertaken for so long, is that doing so releases enormous amounts of methane into the oceans and the atmosphere. Methane is a far more dangerous greenhouse gas than CO2, in terms of its capacity to absorb and retain heat, as well as it being more stable in the atmosphere (less likely to readily breakdown). Offshore drilling, for oil or gas, would seriously and irreparably damage the Earth in the long run, and most probably in the short run. Methane also happens to be toxic to sealife and would kill much of it in and near the drilling sites.
May 21st, 2006 at 2:16 pmI know that things won’t be like the 50’s ever again with the use of fossil fuels, so I traded my 4 cylinder compact truck and bought a big V8 Toyota Tundra and I plan on enjoying the last hoorah with gasoline engine.
May 21st, 2006 at 2:38 pmSpider so true. As a former/future resident of a sea side comunity with lots of offshore oil rigs you can see the polution nightly as the fires from the methane gas burn off can be seen for miles
May 21st, 2006 at 2:40 pmComment by Bruce Gorton — May 21, 2006 @ 9:01 am
…excellent….! Helluva song by Mr. Dylan
Tom
May 21st, 2006 at 2:52 pm#82
The Methane should be used for it’s energy also.
May 21st, 2006 at 3:06 pmThere is NO DEBATE! Global warming will decide for us unless we decide FOR OURSELVES to switch completely to solar/electric NOW!
May 21st, 2006 at 8:50 pmI GOT IT!!!
Let’s round CEI, and especially its founder F****ING LIAR BASTARD SON-OF-A-BITCH, OIL-PAID WHORE Fred Smith and make him inhale some good old fashioned CO2 down his pipe and see if he gets it???
I have the hose; who’s with me???
FS
May 21st, 2006 at 9:09 pmGlobal warming isn’t happening, but if it is, earth will become more climactically benign, with warmer weathers, maybe like Venus.
May 21st, 2006 at 9:12 pmBruce Gorton,
When did they install the internet in your Kintergarten? “But Billy did it too!†is a 4 year olds excuse.
I’m not defending CEI at all, I think their commercials are stupid. I’m just saying that no one here should be crowing about cherry-picking science.
unbelievable,
Not even close to the same thing. Exxon is looking after their own best interests (that’s called selfish) by spinning the truth. Al Gore is looking after the best interests of the planet (that’s called philanthropic) by revealing the truth.
ROFLMAO. Are you seriously THAT naive? Oh boy. Al Gore is doing this for… Al Gore. I hear his movie is all about himself, showing about his own life, growing up, this and that. He just does a Power Point presentation almost the whole movie.
Al Gore isn’t revealing the truth, he’s doing exactly what CEI and others have done: cherry-pick facts to create a false message.
There’s about 4-5 lies or misleading statements just in the trailer for Al Gore’s movie. I can’t wait to see the whole thing, should keep me busy debunking for weeks.
Al Gore is trying to scare the shit out of Americans into voting for him come 2008 so he can save them from imminent doom. In one breath he says that this issue is nothing about politics, and the next he is talking about “the current administration” this and “the current administration” that. Whatever.
Believe what you want, but let me know when you want to come out of the cocoon and realize that Al Gore is no better than George Bush. Bush never insinuated that Gore was a Nazi, which is true vice versa. Gore is a demagogue fed up with losing 6 years ago and being left in the gutter. I voted for him in 2000, but oh boy how he has dropped off my radar within the last 6 years.
If you really think Gore is doing this movie to save the planet, I’ve got some Norwegian tigers to show you.
May 21st, 2006 at 9:27 pmROFLMAO. Are you seriously THAT naive? Oh boy. Al Gore is doing this for… Al Gore. I hear his movie is all about himself, showing about his own life, growing up, this and that. He just does a Power Point presentation almost the whole movie.
Al Gore isn’t revealing the truth, he’s doing exactly what CEI and others have done: cherry-pick facts to create a false message.
Comment by Seixon — May 21, 2006 @ 9:27 pm
Seixon,
I’d ask you for proof to your assertions, but as you never provide anything other than your own ignorant opinion, and state it as fact, I won’t bother.
At least Gore is doing something good. I dare you to name a single valid good thing your Bubble Boy Bush has done.
Laugh now hyena man. At yourself.
May 21st, 2006 at 9:48 pmOk Unbelievable, I’ll ask:
Seixon, can you provide a link for the 4-5 lies or misleading statements just in the trailer ?
May 21st, 2006 at 10:10 pmGood luck Lily! :)
May 21st, 2006 at 10:24 pmfrom Press Notes for “An Inconvenient Truth” - April 25, 2006
For years, he was introduced as the “next President of the United States†— but in the wake of a personally devastating and controversial defeat in the 2000 election, Al Gore did something entirely unexpected. He hit the road, not in search of exile, but as a traveling showman.
His “show†is a non-partisan, multimedia presentation that reveals, via an original mix of humor, cartoons and convincing scientific evidence, the resonant effects that global warming is wreaking upon our planet…With little fanfare, Gore has presented his show more than 1,000 times in cramped school auditoriums and hotel conference rooms in cities large and small, hoping to propel audiences to make a difference in what might otherwise turn out to be the biggest catastrophe of human history.
Two people who became entranced by Gore’s show are leading environmental activist Laurie David and movie producer Lawrence Bender. David hosted two of Gore’s sold-out presentations in New York and Los Angeles, where it had a transforming effect on her. “I felt like Al Gore had become the Paul Revere of our times,†says David, “traveling around the country calling out this vital warning that we really can’t ignore.â€
She also realized that Gore faced a daunting uphill battle in getting his message out into the zeitgeist. “Having researched this subject for some 40 years, nobody understands the issue better than Al Gore…” notes David…“As soon as I saw Gore’s presentation, I knew it could make for the basis of an amazing film,†Lawrence Bender says. “We were all convinced that the moving truth of what Gore was demonstrating needed to be experienced on a much larger scale.†…
So it was that this group of Hollywood producers found themselves pitching the former Vice President of the United States their movie idea…“He [Gore] immediately understood that while he had been getting his message out to thousands of people with his show, a movie could potentially get the message out to millions.â€
“This deepening global climate crisis requires us to act boldly, quickly, and wisely,” says Gore, who saw AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH as one more step towards getting the world to pay attention to the urgent situation at hand.
…
see, wrong again sexion…
May 21st, 2006 at 10:41 pmoh, and bush IS a nazi, a fascist nazi, if that’s possible…
Post 90 Seixon > I see that you claim you live in Norway again, but how could you vote for Gore in 2000 if you are Norwegian? And if you are actually an American in Norway, then after voting for Gore, then why would you support Dubya Dunce Decider now?
May 21st, 2006 at 10:49 pmKaty small correction, Bush is an idiot attempting to play a fascist nazi for dead eye and turdblossum, and he is acting so badly in his “role” the reviews have fallen after each disappointing act.
May 21st, 2006 at 10:51 pmsounds good to me, clif… …except - and i love to call him an idiot also - but i’ve come to realize that everything is calculated, even if he is a puppet… he knows what’s happening…
i heard someone comment a the sunday show that laura was at his side to help his poll numbers because she is so popular… another puppet…
May 21st, 2006 at 11:04 pmSomeone should raise some money for a TV spot to call out the CEI ‘dis-informercials’ for what they are. It would be nice to see Curt Davis get to stand up and show how they misused his research to ‘prove’ their point, and expose them as the bullshit artists that they are.
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:03 amWhile I’m sure he will use this for political gain, as any politician would, the scientific literature on global warming is very clear. I’m interested to know what the “cherry-picked facts” are, and the lies or misleading statements found in the trailer.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:49 amSeixon, you are taking the pill. CEI has no data or facts to support thier positions. They (CEI) only have a huge bankroll and Facist support. Take for example the Chimp we have as Commander in Chief. This Chimp (Sock Puppet) has no idea as to the corporate positioning surrounding his failed policies. Seixon, they got one hand in your pocket, wake up man. Just because you have voted Republican your whole life does not make the Chimp, Or Rush The Junkie, right. Why not try forming your own opinions instead of listening to the Brown-Shirts. I know more about Eichmann now than ever before.
May 22nd, 2006 at 11:01 amTake a look at the amount of money Presidents Bush and Clinton dedicated to R&D in the alternative fuel arena - conservatives will accept progressive apologies graciously….
May 22nd, 2006 at 12:58 pmMay 22nd, 2006 at 1:43 pm
[…] Think Progress […]
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:37 pmEmbracing alternative energies…
(Photo from Earth Voice) First the good news … *Texas has plans for the largest offshore wind farm in the U.S.: Texas officials announced plans Thursday for the nation's largest offshore wind farm, consisting of as many as 500 windmills……
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:18 pmWhy are liberals so crude? If you have to resort to name calling, you have lost the argument. I have voted republican all of my life. I am not sure if I believe in global warming or not. I am 50 years old, many times I have seen scientists say, this is the truth, we all agree, and then a few years later, change their minds. When I was a child, we were all going to freeze to death someday, now we are going to heat up the planet and melt the ice caps. We are losing ice around the edges of the ice cap, but we are gaining snow in the middle. Does the snow we are gaining in the middle mitigate the damage to the edges? If someone goes against the prevailing scientific view, they are crucified, almost seems like a religion to me. I don’t know who to trust, but it sure isn’t anyone who calls people like me sock puppets, or brown shirts. Even though I’m leaning toward the global warming idea, I will hold my nose and vote republican again. I can’t stand the way Democrats always seem to say, we are right, and you are an idiot. I really want to learn the facts, but I deeply distrust people that act like that.
May 22nd, 2006 at 8:58 pm“All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be.” (Mein Kampf, p. 180). The inspiration for CEI’s position on global warming is obvious; they are simply following the advice of arguably the world’s most influential propagandist. Those with no academic qualification or ability to think critically compose the target audience — see the postings by people like Mighty Aphrodite. Perhaps he or she is an administration shill?
May 22nd, 2006 at 9:34 pmIt’s not even about the science to these perpetual doom-n-gloomers. It’s a religion to these people. Actually, it’s political as that Swedish environmental bitch admitted as well as Shitrac.
These econazis are insane. They’re only happy unless the end of the world is just around the corner.
May 22nd, 2006 at 11:15 pmAlaska not getting warmer!??!?!
Lady, you need to quit drinking whiskey and get out more, even if it is still dark most of the day. Ever since 1990, Alaska’s been rapidly warming, and the entire Kenai Penninsula…where you live, when you bother to look out the window… is experiencing massive beetle-kills of spruce because those insects now get two generations a summer, not one. How about all those forest firest in the Interior? Permafrost is melting all over the North Slope, creating disastrous slumps. Virtually all your glaciers are receding at massive rates (say bye bye to salmon spawning), and you’ve even got species like red fox and moose well north of the Brooks Range now.
Your post is just more evidence that Alaska’s annual oil trust fund payout is a bad thing. People up there just use it to drink all winter.
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:11 amWhy are liberals so crude? If you have to resort to name calling, you have lost the argument……
Even though I’m leaning toward the global warming idea, I will hold my nose and vote republican again. I can’t stand the way Democrats always seem to say, we are right, and you are an idiot. I really want to learn the facts, but I deeply distrust people that act like that.
Comment by aju — May 22, 2006 @ 8:58
To Aju,
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:57 amI admit that some liberals use crude language, but you don’t think that certain conservatives like Ann-thrax Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Lielly, etc. do, too? I, for one, would never make a joke, like Coulter, suggesting that a Supreme Court justice–even one that I don’t like– ought to be given rat poisoning, or say that the only way to talk to people on the other end of the political spectrum is with a baseball bat (ie. Coulter on liberals).
In any case, even some Republicans like John McCain have come to see global warming and other environmental matters as problems. I advise you to do more reading on this issue
In any case,
It is interesting to note that the climates of other planets and moons within our solar system are also warming. This is but one of many intriguing facts that are left out of the discussion.
It seems that the prevalent argument for anthropogenic climate change is “everybody says it’s true, so it is true.” That’s somehow not very satisfactory. There are many problems with the theory that have been raised by legitimate climate researchers. Unfortunately, those issues aren’t politically correct so they have a hard time seeing the light of day.
It’s also disingenuous to tag people and organizations as fronts or apologists for the oil industry without documentation simply because they have issues with the science. I’ve worked for 30 years in an industry that has no relationship with any aspect of the oil industry, and that provides a means to reduce consumption of oil, yet I’ve been accused of somehow being a secret agent for Big Oil.
The politics are swamping the science.
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:14 amThe right wing idiots that cite ‘climate change has happened in the past, be happy don’t worry’, are totally looking at the wrong facts.
No surprise there.
You see, our economy will suffer whether climate change is manmade or not. When it stops raining, or when the oceans rise, or when ports and piers are flooded and the movement of int’l commerce is stopped, or when the Gulf Stream shuts down, or when tropical diseases move to the temperate zone permanently, or when tens of millions of people who live on the shore are forced to move inland, the economy will be decimated anyway.
We can slow that arrival date since we have control over what we do.
But, of course, if you’re a right wing nutjob the economy is totally faith based and is spearheaded by none other than right wing nutjobs.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:37 pmI just read that Pops thinks that the climates of other planets and moons in our solar system are warming. There’s a good reason that ‘fact’ has been left out of the discussion.
You made that up.
My major is astronomy and I can tell you that you simply made that up.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:39 pm[…] And he’s hardly the only one talking about those ads. Following their release, the University of Missouri-Columbia released a press release, not so subtly subtitled “Engineering Professor Curt Davis says TV Spots are Misrepresenting His Research†(hat tip to Think Progress). CEI cited a study by Davis, Director of the Center for Geospatial Intelligence, in their Glaciers commercial: “But other scientific studies found exactly the opposite …†Not so opposite, it seems: “These television ads are a deliberate effort to confuse and mislead the public about the global warming debate,” Davis said. “They are selectively using only parts of my previous research to support their claims. They are not telling the entire story to the public.” […]
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:58 pmThere’s about 4-5 lies or misleading statements just in the trailer for Al Gore’s movie. I can’t wait to see the whole thing, should keep me busy debunking for weeks. - Seixon
Ok Seixon, is it 4 or is it 5 lies or misleading statements. please list and explain. Thank you.
May 24th, 2006 at 4:02 amFor those of you in America who think that average temperatures aren’t rising, or that the world would be a better place if they do, take a look at this: http://www.permaculturetas.org/board/viewtopic.php?p=50#50
May 24th, 2006 at 6:24 amAnd bear in mind that the whole bloody lot of you only add up to 6% of the world’s population, yet you consume mor than half of our resources. bon apatit.
Climate change happens. Evolve or die you stupid dinosaurs!
May 25th, 2006 at 6:49 pmZODIAC WORLD LIMITED
Email : zodiac_worldltd@yahoo.com
NEW GSM PHONES/PDA - UNBEATABLE PRICES WE ARE CERTIFIED WHOLESALERS OF
VARIOUS GSM MOBILE PHONES AT VERY AFFORDABLE PRICES ATTACH IS OUR VERY
CURRENT PRICE LIST OF GSM PHONES FOR YOURREFERENCE ALL PHONES/PDA ARE
BRAND NEW SIM FREE/OPEN LINES/UNLOCK.
We are mobile phones wholesalers and we do sale in pieces to enhance
our sales.We deals on all brands and models of mobile phones such as
Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Ericsson,Sagem, Nextel,Sidekick
II,Sprint,Ipods, Laptops, Mp3 players etc at very cheap prices.
We are using this medium to reach interested buyers of mobile phones.Do kindly reply back if you are interested. THE KINDS OF MOBILE PHONES ARE LISTED BELOW:
NOKIA 6230 for……..$130usd
NOKIA 6230i for…….$140usd
NOKIA 6260 For……..$130usd
NOKIA 9300 For……..$130usd
NOKIA 9500 For……..$140usd
NOKIA 7610 For……..$150usd
NOKIA 6680 For……..$130usd
NOKIA 6682 For……..$140usd
NOKIA 7650 For……..$150usd
NOKIA E60 for………$150usd
NOKIA E61 for………$155usd
NOKIA E70 for………$160usd
NOKIA 8800 For……..$150usd
NOKIA N70 For………$130usd
NOKIA N80 For………$140usd
NOKIA N90 For………$160usd
NOKIA N91 For………$170usd
NOKIA N92 For………$180usd
NOKIA N93 For………$230usd
SIDEKICK 2 for……..$120usd
SIDEKICK 3 for……..$160usd
SAMSUNG D600 For……$120usd
SAMSUNG D720 For……$130usd
SAMSUNG D730 For……$135usd
SAMSUNG D800 FOR……$135usd
SAMSUNG D820 For……$140usd
SAMSUNG Z500 For……$150usd
SONY ERICSSON K700i For……$130usd
SONY ERICSSON k750i For……$140usd
SONY ERICSSON W800i For……$150usd
Sony Ericsson W810i For……$155usd
Sony Ericsson W900i For……$160usd
Sony Ericsson W950i For……$180usd
Sony Ericsson S700i For……$140usd
SONY ERICSSON P900 For……$140usd
Sony Ericsson P910i For……$150usd
Sony Ericsson p990i For……$170usd
Sony Ericsson: Z1010 For…..$160usd
MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 for……..$130usd
MOTOROLA RAZOR V6 FOR……..$140usd
MOTOROLA SLVR L7 For……..$140usd
MOTOROLA SLVR V8 For……..$150usd
MOTOROLA A1000 For………..$160usd
MOTOROLA A1010 For………..$200usd
MOTOROLA MPX 220 For…….. $120usd
MOTOROLA MPX 300 For…….. $140usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….$60 usd
Apple 20 GB iPod photo………………..$40 usd
Apple 30 GB iPod Video………………..$80 usd
Apple 60 GB video ipod………………..$140 usd
Email : zodiac_worldltd@yahoo.com
WE PROVIDE A GOOD AND FAST SERVICES, OUR SHIPPMENT IS WITHIN
48HRS.
THANKS,
June 8th, 2006 at 10:23 pmREGARD,
MANAGEMENT.
We have all brands of Mobile Phones,Ipods,Sidekicks,Nextels
phone,Laptops for sell at cheap and affordable prices, they ranges
from Nokia/Samsung/LG/Sony Ericsson/Motorola/Alcatel/panasonic With
Bluetooth, all Brands and Models of Nextel Phones, we want you to get
back to us with your quote so that we can begin a good business
relationship. Note they are all Brand New T2 Euro specs, unlocked, no
operator logo, come in their original sealed box, With 1 year
international warranty from the manufacturer, English & Spanish
manual, Finland made. We want to assure you that you will never regret
buying from us because the delivery will be to your doorstep via FedEx
Courier service.And the Tracking number shall be sent to you upon
acknowledgement of your
WE ARE SELLING LOTS OF MOBILE PHONES FOR VERY CHEAP PRICE AND THESE
PHONES ARE THE LATEST PHONES ALSO THEY SELLS A LOT IN MARTEK SO THEY
ARE AS FOLLOW””””””’
MOTOROLA MPX 220 AT JUST $135usd
MOTOROLA MPX 300 AT JUST $165usd
MOTOROLA V3X AT JUST $180usd
MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 AT JUST $140usd
MOTOROLA V171 AT JUST $60USD
NEXTEL i930 AT JUST $110usd
NEXTEL i860 AT JUST $120usd
SONY ERICSSON P910i AT JUST $150usd
SONY ERICSSON K700i AT JUST $135usd
SONY ERICSSON K750i AT JUST $140usd
SONY ERICSSON P800 AT JUST $120usd
SONY ERICSSON W800i AT JUST $1550usd
SONY ERICSSON S700i AT JUST $140usd
SONY ERICSSON S700i AT JUST $130usd
NOKIA 1600 AT JUST $55usd
NOKIA 2600 AT JUST $60USD
NOKIA 6030 AT JUST $25USD
NOKIA 6030 AT JUST $100usd
NOKIA 9500 AT JUST $200usd
NOKIA 9300 AT JUST $175usd
NOKIA N92 AT JUST $220usd
NOKIA N90 AT JUST $180usd
NOKIA N91 AT JUST $210usd
NOKIA 8800 AT JUST $165usd
NOKIA 7200 AT JUST $130usd
NOKIA 6260 AT JUST $130usd
NOKIA 7210 AT JUST $135usd
SAMSUNG D400 AT JUST $130usd
SAMSUNG D600 AT JUST $190usd
SAMSUNG D500 AT JUST $175usd
SAMSUNG D415 AT JUST $145usd
Sanyo MM-8300 …….$160.00USD
Sanyo mm-9000……..$200.00USD
Nextel i960……….$150.00USD
ppc-6700 ,………..$210.00USD
Sidekick III…………$170.00USD
SIDEKICK II AT JUST $110usd
TREO 600 AT JUST $135usd
TREO 650 AT JUST $150usd
TREO 700 P/W JUST $160
Verizon/Motorola E815 EvDO for just $110
Verizon/LG VX4500 Voice Recognition for just for $100
Verizon’s World Phone for just $120
Verizon/Motorola V265 for just $110
Verizon XV6600 $130
Verizon/Samsung SCH-a890 EVDO Handset $140
Verizon CDM8940 3G EV-DO $140
Verizon LG VX8000 EVDO $110
Verizon/LG VX8100 $110
Verizon/Samsung a950 $110
PLAY STATION 1 AT JUST $100USD
PLAY STATION 2 AT JUST $140USD
PLAY STATION 3 AT JUST $160USD
MICROSOFT XBOX 360 AT JUST $180usd
Apple 20 GB iPod Nano……$60.00USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ……$70.00USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo……$85.00USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……$110.00USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo …..$105.00USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A…….$95.00USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……$50.00USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….$70.00USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano…..$90.00USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe….$150.00USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe……$110.00USD
Send us an email to our email our below:
queentimobiles@hotmail.com marrymobileltd@yahoo.com
Dear customers we deal in all kind of phones and we give you the best price.
delivery method.DHL,TNT,FEDEX,which will be after 48hours .
-
June 19th, 2006 at 5:40 amMOBILE PHONE WORLD PLC.
Email : mobile_worldplc@yahoo.com
NEW GSM PHONES/PDA - UNBEATABLE PRICES WE ARE CERTIFIED WHOLESALERS OF
VARIOUS GSM MOBILE PHONES AT VERY AFFORDABLE PRICES ATTACH IS OUR VERY
CURRENT PRICE LIST OF GSM PHONES FOR YOURREFERENCE ALL PHONES/PDA ARE
BRAND NEW SIM FREE/OPEN LINES/UNLOCK.
We are mobile phones wholesalers and we do sale in pieces to enhance
our sales.We deals on all brands and models of mobile phones such as
Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Ericsson,Sagem, Nextel,Sidekick
II,Sprint,Ipods, Laptops, Mp3 players etc at very cheap prices.
We are using this medium to reach interested buyers of mobile phones.Do kindly reply back if you are interested. THE KINDS OF MOBILE PHONES ARE LISTED BELOW:
SAMSUNG D600 For……$120usd
SAMSUNG D720 For……$130usd
SAMSUNG D730 For……$135usd
SAMSUNG D800 FOR……$135usd
SAMSUNG D820 For……$140usd
SAMSUNG Z500 For……$150usd
NOKIA 6230 for……..$130usd
NOKIA 6230i for…….$140usd
NOKIA 6260 For……..$130usd
NOKIA 9300 For……..$130usd
NOKIA 9500 For……..$140usd
NOKIA 7610 For……..$150usd
NOKIA 6680 For……..$130usd
NOKIA 6682 For……..$140usd
NOKIA 7650 For……..$150usd
NOKIA E60 for………$150usd
NOKIA E61 for………$155usd
NOKIA E70 for………$160usd
NOKIA 8800 For……..$150usd
NOKIA N70 For………$130usd
NOKIA N80 For………$140usd
NOKIA N90 For………$160usd
NOKIA N91 For………$170usd
NOKIA N92 For………$180usd
NOKIA N93 For………$230usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….$60 usd
Apple 20 GB iPod photo………………..$40 usd
Apple 30 GB iPod Video………………..$80 usd
Apple 60 GB video ipod………………..$140 usd
MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 for……..$130usd
MOTOROLA RAZOR V6 FOR……..$140usd
MOTOROLA SLVR L7 For……..$140usd
MOTOROLA SLVR V8 For……..$150usd
MOTOROLA A1000 For………..$160usd
MOTOROLA A1010 For………..$200usd
MOTOROLA MPX 220 For…….. $120usd
MOTOROLA MPX 300 For…….. $140usd
SONY ERICSSON K700i For……$130usd
SONY ERICSSON k750i For……$140usd
SONY ERICSSON W800i For……$150usd
Sony Ericsson W810i For……$155usd
Sony Ericsson W900i For……$160usd
Sony Ericsson W950i For……$180usd
Sony Ericsson S700i For……$140usd
SONY ERICSSON P900 For….$140usd
Sony Ericsson P910i For……$150usd
Sony Ericsson p990i For……$170usd
Sony Ericsson: Z1010 For…..$160usd
Tom Tom Go for $240usd
Tom Tom Portable Nav Preloaded Map USA/C for $200usd
Tom Tom GO 510 Vehicle GPS Navigation (510) for $220usd
Tom Tom Go 700 In Vehicle Navigation System for $260usd
Tom Tom 1D00780 GO 700 Portable Vehicle Navigation GPS for $250usd
WE PROVIDE A GOOD AND FAST SERVICES, OUR SHIPPMENT IS WITHIN
48HRS.
THANKS,
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:23 amREGARD,
MANAGEMENT.
we are exporters of apple ipods. all brand new and boxed with original
accessories. we sell them in bulk and in small quantities.
here is the list of apple ipods that we have in stock:Email: Email: ozaborphilip@hotmail.com
Email: philipmobile01@hotmail.com
Email: sammy_pasifo@yahoo.co.uk
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9802LL/A””””””””””””””’us$64.00
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9804LL/A””””””””””””””’us$64.00
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Green M9806LL/A””””””””””””””us$64.00
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Blue M9803LL/A””””””””””””””’us$68.00
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Silver M9801LL/A””””””””””””””us$68.00
Apple 20 GB iPod M9282LL/A”””””””””””””””””””’us$69.00
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A”””””””””””””””us$49.00
Apple 40 GB iPod photo””””””””””””””””””””””us$49.00
Apple 4 GB ipod nano””””””””””””””””””””””’us$69.00
Apple 2 GB ipod nano””””””””””””””””””””””’us$62.00
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A”””””””””””””””us$49.00
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A”””””””””””””””””’us$86.00
Apple 60 GB iPod photo”””””””””””””””””””””””us$49.00
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A””””””””””””””””””us$73.00
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player
M9724LL/A”””””””””””’us$56.00
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue
M9436LL/A”””””””””””””””””us$49.00
Apple 20 GB iPod U2 Special
Edition”””””””””””””””””’us$73.00
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Green
M9807LL/A”””””””””””””””””us$64.00
NEW apple 60 GB video ipod””””””””’us$140.00
NEW apple 30 GB video ipod””””””””’us$120.00
FOR SELL MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $140usd,
FOR SELL MOTOROLA RAZOR V3x MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $150usd
FOR SELL NEXTEL i930 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $120usd,
FOR SELL NEXTEL i860 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $100usd,
FOR SELL SONY ERICSSON P910i MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $150usd,
FOR SELL SONY ERICSSON W800i MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $140usd
FOR SELL MOTOROLA MPX 220 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $130usd,
FOR SELL MOTOROLA MPX 300 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $140usd,
FOR SELL SONY ERICSSON S700i MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $120usd
FOR SELL NOKIA 9500 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $160usd,
FOR SELL NOKIA 9300 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $130usd,
FOR SELL SAMSUNG D500 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $150usd,
FOR SELL SAMSUNG D500 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $170usd
FOR SELL SIDEKICK II MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $130usd
FOR SELL SIDEKICK III MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $200usd
FOR SELL NOKIA N71 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $150USD
FOR SELL NOKIA N80 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $150USD
FOR SELL NOKIA N92 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $175USD
FOR SELL NOKIA N70 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $150usd
FOR SELL NOKIA N90 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $170usd
FOR SELL NOKIA N91 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $170usd
FOR SELL NOKIA 8800 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $150usd
Contact us birect by Email ozaborphilip@hotmail.com
Email: philipmobile01@hotmail.com
Email: sammy_pasifo@yahoo.co.uk
SONY VAIO A217S– 100GB– 512MB RAM– XP HOME————-$500
SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO————–$430
SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————-$400
SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————-$700
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————$450
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————$600
SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————$550
SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————$650
SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————–$650
SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO————-$300
SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO———-$600
SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN-A117S——————̵