Comments on: ABC’s Ross: Surveillance of Journalists ‘Makes Me Feel…As If We Are Drug Dealers or Terrorists’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:22:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: big muscle bear http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-5361686 big muscle bear Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:16:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-5361686 <strong>big muscle bear...</strong> So just what are some of these ingredients? Alpha-lactalbumin has a protein efficiency ratio of 4. Whey concentrate powders are quit... big muscle bear…

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]]> By: Teknosis : Exposed: The Carlyle Group,. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-570697 Teknosis : Exposed: The Carlyle Group,. Tue, 23 May 2006 20:20:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-570697 [...] Exposed: The Carlyle Group,.   .               Exposed: The Carlyle Group Shocking documentary uncovers the subversion of Americas democracy. I defy you to watch this 48 minute documentary and not be outraged about the depth of corruption and deceit within the highest ranks of our government. Note: The first one minute forty seven seconds of this program is in broadcast in Dutch, The remainder is in English. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm SOURCE FILE Other articles on this topic Translation of the first one minute forty seven seconds of this program. "The war in Iraq does not seem to be over al all, but in the meantime the rebuilding has already started. This has unleashed fiercecompetition for contracts, which are mainly awarded to American (ed: U.S.) companies.  What is remarkable about these companies, is that they have people on their payroll from American politics and the military. Is this a conflict of interest, or is this the new global way of doing business?  [text in the screen at this time reads: 'the iron triangle']  One of the companies that operates in this manner is the Carlyle Group." On their payroll are people like : George Bush (Sr.), James Baker III and old premier John Major.The Carlyle Group is a private investment bank which doesn't come to the publics attention very often but it is one of the biggest American (ed: USA) investors of the defense industry, telecom, property and financial services.What is the Carlyle Group? Who are the people behind the name? And how much power does Carlyle have? MORE:  Fruit of the Poison Tree By Charles Sullivan Every aspect of American politics is enacted within the shell of Plutocratic corporate rule. Therefore, the Plutocratic tree will continue to bear the fruit of Plutocracy, regardless of which party is in power. During the past fifty years of the American experiment the difference between Democrat and Republican has become increasingly subtle. In essence there is only one party—that of wealth and privilege. Continue Paranoia, depression, or a world of hope:By Stephen SoldzThe country that proportionally consumes more of the world’s resources than any other is concerned that others want to steal from us, to take away the resources we stole fair and square. And every once in a while our defenses weaken and we glimpse the environmental destruction that awaits us if we do not change the path we are on. Continue Star Wars In IraqIs The U.S. using new experimental "Tactical High Energy Laser" weapons in Iraq? RAI - Italian TV Investigation" It was a very strange and horrible situation. In the roof of the car there were parts of the body: intestines, brains, all parts of the body. It was a very very very miserable situation." Click here to view Robert Fisk: You're talking nonsense, Mr Ambassador By Robert Fisk: All the while, new diplomatic archives are opening to reveal the smell of death - Armenian death Continue The Revolution Will Not Be TelevisedVideo Documentary: Their film records what was probably history's shortest-lived coup d'état. It's a unique document about political muscle and an extraordinary portrait of the man The Wall Street Journal credits with making Venezuela "Washington's biggest Latin American headache after the old standby, Cuba." Click here to watch: At least 22 killed in continuing violence: Thirteen people were killed and 18 wounded when a bomb exploded inside a Baghdad restaurant popular with police, police said. Iraq is Disintegrating: Across central Iraq, there is an exodus of people fleeing for their lives as sectarian assassins and death squads hunt them down. At ground level, Iraq is disintegrating as ethnic cleansing takes hold on a massive scale. Blair wants troops out of Iraq next year: The prime minister believes that his best chance of securing his place in the history books is with a legacy as a “peacemaker” after his reputation with the left was damaged by the Iraq war and power sharing in the province collapsed. Franks: GI Deaths Is the Cost of Security: Those who count the increasing number of American soldiers killed in Iraq are missing the bigger picture, retired Gen. Tommy Franks said Saturday night. Father's Mission: Hours after he buried his soldier son, David Timmons Sr. said yesterday that people should ask questions about the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. 9 Afghan soldiers killed in Taliban territory: Nine Afghan soldiers who were trapped in Taliban-held territory following an ambush were killed after holding out against the rebels for nearly a day, an army commander said yesterday. Car Bomb in Kabul Kills 3 More Afghan: A car bomb possibly targeting a convoy of coalition forces killed three people in the Afghan capital Sunday while officials added 12 Afghan troops and one coalition soldier to the toll of those killed in violence a day earlier. Four killed, including child, mother, grandmother, in Israeli airstrike in Gaza : Four Palestinians were killed in an Israeli 'targeted assassination' on Saturday, and four more seriously injured. Three of those killed were a child, his mother, and his grandmother, travelling in a car behind the 'targeted' vehicle, which was hit by two missiles fired from a helicopter by the Israeli airforce. Israeli occupation forces shoot 48 year old woman in head, killing her instantly: Israeli forces killed 48 year old Aisha Abu Muslim in eastern Nablus’ Balata Refugee Camp. Israeli forces have invaded and reinvaded the northern West Bank city almost daily for weeks, months, years on end since the beginning of the Intifada. War pimp alert: Olmert: Iran's Atomic Bomb Not Far Off : Iran is just a few months away from acquiring the technological know-how that will allow it to build an atomic bomb, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said in an interview broadcast Sunday. West urged to halt Iran: Israeli general warns of proliferation: Time running out to stop Tehran's plans Peretz approves expansion of four West Bank settlements : Defense Minister Amir Peretz has approved expansion of four West Bank settlements, the first such approvals under his tenure. Ohio County purchases $ 5 million in Israel Bonds: Rokakis’s investment may not be an outright political statement, but Guttman believes the purchase to be a “testament to the enduring strength of the state of Israel.” Who's singling out Israel?: Supporters of the Palestinian cause are wrongly accused of anti-semitism. Inside story of the Guantanamo uprising : The camp commander's claims of a co-ordinated revolt are challenged by new details of the violence. The New York Times Versus Chavez: You can tell that the US-led campaign against Hugo Chávez has reached a critical stage when the New York Times starts providing rhetorical cover for Condoleezza Rice's and Donald Rumsfeld's increasingly desperate efforts to isolate the Venezuelan president. Noam Chomsky : Venezuela's oil and Massachusetts' chimneys : "How Venezuela Is Keeping the Home Fires Burning in Massachusetts," reads a recent full-page ad in major U.S. newspapers from PDVSA, Venezuela’s state-owned oil company, and CITGO, its Houston-based subsidiary. UK: Soldiers to get life in jail for refusing to act as occupiers: SOLDIERS who object to taking part in a military occupation of a foreign country will face life in prison under measures due to be rubber-stamped in the House of Commons on Monday. UK: Voters want Blair in the dock over loan scandal: Tony Blair should face criminal charges over the "cash for honours" scandal if Scotland Yard's investigation finds that Labour broke the law, voters believe. UK: Cabinet's golden pension pot : Ministers will enjoy multi-million packages - and retire at 60 - while telling others to work for longer Markets ‘are like 1987 crash’: CONDITIONS in the financial markets are eerily similar to those that precipitated the “Black Monday” stock market crash of October 1987, according to leading City analysts. FBI search of Jefferson's office "outrageous": Attorney: Jefferson. an eight-term congressman, is under investigation for his role in helping a Nigerian company with an Internet venture. He has maintained his innocence, but a Kentucky businessman pleaded guilty earlier this month to bribing Jefferson in the venture. Congress Faces Multiple Criminal Probes : "We have an entire generation who imagines their member of Congress in an orange jumpsuit," said Paul Light, a New York University professor of public service, referring to the common prison uniform. "It‘s like members of Congress don‘t have any shame." Ex-deputy secretary of state new figure in CIA leak probe : Armitage's testimony could hurt Vice President Cheney's indicted former chief aide Lewis (Scooter) Libby, or President Bush's political guru, Karl Rove. US could prosecute reporters for leaks: Gonzales: The federal government appears to have the authority to prosecute journalists or newspapers for publishing classified information, U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said on Sunday. ABC’s Ross: Surveillance of Journalists ‘Makes Me Feel…As If We Are Drug Dealers or Terrorists’ Law-Enforcement Demands Information About Customers, Suppliers: Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement efforts to secure corporate information about clients and suppliers have reached such levels that some companies have had to create special units that do nothing but deal with these demands, a process often called "subpoena management." [...] [...] Exposed: The Carlyle Group,.   .               Exposed: The Carlyle Group Shocking documentary uncovers the subversion of Americas democracy. I defy you to watch this 48 minute documentary and not be outraged about the depth of corruption and deceit within the highest ranks of our government. Note: The first one minute forty seven seconds of this program is in broadcast in Dutch, The remainder is in English. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm SOURCE FILE Other articles on this topic Translation of the first one minute forty seven seconds of this program. “The war in Iraq does not seem to be over al all, but in the meantime the rebuilding has already started. This has unleashed fiercecompetition for contracts, which are mainly awarded to American (ed: U.S.) companies.  What is remarkable about these companies, is that they have people on their payroll from American politics and the military. Is this a conflict of interest, or is this the new global way of doing business?  [text in the screen at this time reads: 'the iron triangle']  One of the companies that operates in this manner is the Carlyle Group.” On their payroll are people like : George Bush (Sr.), James Baker III and old premier John Major.The Carlyle Group is a private investment bank which doesn’t come to the publics attention very often but it is one of the biggest American (ed: USA) investors of the defense industry, telecom, property and financial services.What is the Carlyle Group? Who are the people behind the name? And how much power does Carlyle have? MORE:  Fruit of the Poison Tree By Charles Sullivan Every aspect of American politics is enacted within the shell of Plutocratic corporate rule. Therefore, the Plutocratic tree will continue to bear the fruit of Plutocracy, regardless of which party is in power. During the past fifty years of the American experiment the difference between Democrat and Republican has become increasingly subtle. In essence there is only one party—that of wealth and privilege. Continue Paranoia, depression, or a world of hope:By Stephen SoldzThe country that proportionally consumes more of the world’s resources than any other is concerned that others want to steal from us, to take away the resources we stole fair and square. And every once in a while our defenses weaken and we glimpse the environmental destruction that awaits us if we do not change the path we are on. Continue Star Wars In IraqIs The U.S. using new experimental “Tactical High Energy Laser” weapons in Iraq? RAI – Italian TV Investigation” It was a very strange and horrible situation. In the roof of the car there were parts of the body: intestines, brains, all parts of the body. It was a very very very miserable situation.” Click here to view Robert Fisk: You’re talking nonsense, Mr Ambassador By Robert Fisk: All the while, new diplomatic archives are opening to reveal the smell of death – Armenian death Continue The Revolution Will Not Be TelevisedVideo Documentary: Their film records what was probably history’s shortest-lived coup d’état. It’s a unique document about political muscle and an extraordinary portrait of the man The Wall Street Journal credits with making Venezuela “Washington’s biggest Latin American headache after the old standby, Cuba.” Click here to watch: At least 22 killed in continuing violence: Thirteen people were killed and 18 wounded when a bomb exploded inside a Baghdad restaurant popular with police, police said. Iraq is Disintegrating: Across central Iraq, there is an exodus of people fleeing for their lives as sectarian assassins and death squads hunt them down. At ground level, Iraq is disintegrating as ethnic cleansing takes hold on a massive scale. Blair wants troops out of Iraq next year: The prime minister believes that his best chance of securing his place in the history books is with a legacy as a “peacemaker” after his reputation with the left was damaged by the Iraq war and power sharing in the province collapsed. Franks: GI Deaths Is the Cost of Security: Those who count the increasing number of American soldiers killed in Iraq are missing the bigger picture, retired Gen. Tommy Franks said Saturday night. Father’s Mission: Hours after he buried his soldier son, David Timmons Sr. said yesterday that people should ask questions about the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. 9 Afghan soldiers killed in Taliban territory: Nine Afghan soldiers who were trapped in Taliban-held territory following an ambush were killed after holding out against the rebels for nearly a day, an army commander said yesterday. Car Bomb in Kabul Kills 3 More Afghan: A car bomb possibly targeting a convoy of coalition forces killed three people in the Afghan capital Sunday while officials added 12 Afghan troops and one coalition soldier to the toll of those killed in violence a day earlier. Four killed, including child, mother, grandmother, in Israeli airstrike in Gaza : Four Palestinians were killed in an Israeli ‘targeted assassination’ on Saturday, and four more seriously injured. Three of those killed were a child, his mother, and his grandmother, travelling in a car behind the ‘targeted’ vehicle, which was hit by two missiles fired from a helicopter by the Israeli airforce. Israeli occupation forces shoot 48 year old woman in head, killing her instantly: Israeli forces killed 48 year old Aisha Abu Muslim in eastern Nablus’ Balata Refugee Camp. Israeli forces have invaded and reinvaded the northern West Bank city almost daily for weeks, months, years on end since the beginning of the Intifada. War pimp alert: Olmert: Iran’s Atomic Bomb Not Far Off : Iran is just a few months away from acquiring the technological know-how that will allow it to build an atomic bomb, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said in an interview broadcast Sunday. West urged to halt Iran: Israeli general warns of proliferation: Time running out to stop Tehran’s plans Peretz approves expansion of four West Bank settlements : Defense Minister Amir Peretz has approved expansion of four West Bank settlements, the first such approvals under his tenure. Ohio County purchases $ 5 million in Israel Bonds: Rokakis’s investment may not be an outright political statement, but Guttman believes the purchase to be a “testament to the enduring strength of the state of Israel.” Who’s singling out Israel?: Supporters of the Palestinian cause are wrongly accused of anti-semitism. Inside story of the Guantanamo uprising : The camp commander’s claims of a co-ordinated revolt are challenged by new details of the violence. The New York Times Versus Chavez: You can tell that the US-led campaign against Hugo Chávez has reached a critical stage when the New York Times starts providing rhetorical cover for Condoleezza Rice’s and Donald Rumsfeld’s increasingly desperate efforts to isolate the Venezuelan president. Noam Chomsky : Venezuela’s oil and Massachusetts’ chimneys : “How Venezuela Is Keeping the Home Fires Burning in Massachusetts,” reads a recent full-page ad in major U.S. newspapers from PDVSA, Venezuela’s state-owned oil company, and CITGO, its Houston-based subsidiary. UK: Soldiers to get life in jail for refusing to act as occupiers: SOLDIERS who object to taking part in a military occupation of a foreign country will face life in prison under measures due to be rubber-stamped in the House of Commons on Monday. UK: Voters want Blair in the dock over loan scandal: Tony Blair should face criminal charges over the “cash for honours” scandal if Scotland Yard’s investigation finds that Labour broke the law, voters believe. UK: Cabinet’s golden pension pot : Ministers will enjoy multi-million packages – and retire at 60 – while telling others to work for longer Markets ‘are like 1987 crash’: CONDITIONS in the financial markets are eerily similar to those that precipitated the “Black Monday” stock market crash of October 1987, according to leading City analysts. FBI search of Jefferson’s office “outrageous”: Attorney: Jefferson. an eight-term congressman, is under investigation for his role in helping a Nigerian company with an Internet venture. He has maintained his innocence, but a Kentucky businessman pleaded guilty earlier this month to bribing Jefferson in the venture. Congress Faces Multiple Criminal Probes : “We have an entire generation who imagines their member of Congress in an orange jumpsuit,” said Paul Light, a New York University professor of public service, referring to the common prison uniform. “It‘s like members of Congress don‘t have any shame.” Ex-deputy secretary of state new figure in CIA leak probe : Armitage’s testimony could hurt Vice President Cheney’s indicted former chief aide Lewis (Scooter) Libby, or President Bush’s political guru, Karl Rove. US could prosecute reporters for leaks: Gonzales: The federal government appears to have the authority to prosecute journalists or newspapers for publishing classified information, U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said on Sunday. ABC’s Ross: Surveillance of Journalists ‘Makes Me Feel…As If We Are Drug Dealers or Terrorists’ Law-Enforcement Demands Information About Customers, Suppliers: Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement efforts to secure corporate information about clients and suppliers have reached such levels that some companies have had to create special units that do nothing but deal with these demands, a process often called “subpoena management.” [...]

]]> By: Brian Tilley http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-570204 Brian Tilley Tue, 23 May 2006 18:59:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-570204 "As If We Are Drug Dealers or Terrorists" You are terrorists! amerika is the number one terrorist state on the planet. Your only competition is Israel, and they have been teaching you how to become even more effective at murdering people and then blaming your victims for their own murder. “As If We Are Drug Dealers or Terrorists”

You are terrorists! amerika is the number one terrorist state on the planet. Your only competition is Israel, and they have been teaching you how to become even more effective at murdering people and then blaming your victims for their own murder.

]]> By: Nova16 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-569706 Nova16 Tue, 23 May 2006 15:04:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-569706 Schmidt--Just read your reply. First of all I did not vote for the dolt in the White House and have contributed time and money to end the worst presidency in the history of the country. Any one who supports The Bush regime and corrupt republican congress is aiding and abetting malfeasance and misfeasance in the high office of the president and congress. Blaming me for Bush's incompetence is fine with me. I'll admit that I could do more to help those that want him removed as I do. Hopefully a more rational and reasoned approach to governance is at hand in November. The majority of Americans now know they have been duped and deceived by the Bush cabal and want new direction for the country, Now, my question to you smart ass--Where do you stand on Mr. Bush and his mismanagement? Schmidt–Just read your reply. First of all I did not vote for the dolt in the White House and have contributed time and money to end the worst presidency in the history of the country. Any one who supports The Bush regime and corrupt republican congress is aiding and abetting malfeasance and misfeasance in the high office of the president and congress. Blaming me for Bush’s incompetence is fine with me. I’ll admit that I could do more to help those that want him removed as I do. Hopefully a more rational and reasoned approach to governance is at hand in November. The majority of Americans now know they have been duped and deceived by the Bush cabal and want new direction for the country, Now, my question to you smart ass–Where do you stand on Mr. Bush and his mismanagement?

]]> By: KEVIN SCHMIDT, STERLING VA http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-568822 KEVIN SCHMIDT, STERLING VA Tue, 23 May 2006 03:54:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-568822 they have only themselves to blame for relinquishing their responsibillty as a watchdog of governmental operations in order to protect the public interest. If ignorance is bliss–’Tis folly to be wise. Comment by Nova16 — May 22, 2006 @ 4:51 pm --------------------------- Nova16, you truly experience blissful ignorance. It may be true that the press has been lax as the watchdogs of governmental operations, but the blame falls first on the Bush/Cheney administration, and second on everyone else combined, including you. they have only themselves to blame for relinquishing their responsibillty as a watchdog of governmental operations in order to protect the public interest. If ignorance is bliss–’Tis folly to be wise.

Comment by Nova16 — May 22, 2006 @ 4:51 pm

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Nova16, you truly experience blissful ignorance.

It may be true that the press has been lax as the watchdogs of governmental operations, but the blame falls first on the Bush/Cheney administration, and second on everyone else combined, including you.

]]> By: KEVIN SCHMIDT, STERLING VA http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-568820 KEVIN SCHMIDT, STERLING VA Tue, 23 May 2006 03:45:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-568820 AL G THE ATTY GEN CONTRADICTS HIMSELF Al G said, 'journalists can be prosecuted for publishing classified information, citing an obligation to national security... "We have an obligation to enforce those laws. We have an obligation to ensure that our national security is protected."' Please reread the last sentence. Is it not a fact that our national security is best protected by first enforcing the laws of our nation? Is that not our first priority, to uphold the law of the land? If so, then how can anyone who breaks U.S. law have their illegal actions legally designated as classified information? I cannot understand how this would be possible? If I am correct, then anyone who blows the whistle on illegal activity cannot by definition be revealing classified information. Quite the contrary, that whistle blower is assisting in upholding U.S. law and thus is assisting in protecting our national security. Therefore, either an error was made when the illegal behavior was designated as classified information, and that error is further compounded by Al G the Atty Gen. The other possibility is the Executive Branch of the U.S. government no longer adheres to the rule of law. If that is so, then we now live in a state of anarchy with fascists in the White House attempting an outright coup of the U.S. AL G THE ATTY GEN CONTRADICTS HIMSELF

Al G said, ‘journalists can be prosecuted for publishing classified information, citing an obligation to national security…

“We have an obligation to enforce those laws. We have an obligation to ensure that our national security is protected.”‘

Please reread the last sentence.

Is it not a fact that our national security is best protected by first enforcing the laws of our nation?

Is that not our first priority, to uphold the law of the land?

If so, then how can anyone who breaks U.S. law have their illegal actions legally designated as classified information? I cannot understand how this would be possible?

If I am correct, then anyone who blows the whistle on illegal activity cannot by definition be revealing classified information.

Quite the contrary, that whistle blower is assisting in upholding U.S. law and thus is assisting in protecting our national security.

Therefore, either an error was made when the illegal behavior was designated as classified information, and that error is further compounded by Al G the Atty Gen.

The other possibility is the Executive Branch of the U.S. government no longer adheres to the rule of law.

If that is so, then we now live in a state of anarchy with fascists in the White House attempting an outright coup of the U.S.

]]> By: Nova16 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-568390 Nova16 Mon, 22 May 2006 20:51:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-568390 A comment was made that Bush is trying to "stifle" the press. The press stifled itself when the dolt took office and has been a fellow traveler with Bush throughout his administration. If the MSM views the current electronic surveillance as an invasion of privacy, then they have only themselves to blame for relinquishing their responsibillty as a watchdog of governmental operations in order to protect the public interest. If ignorance is bliss--'Tis folly to be wise. A comment was made that Bush is trying to “stifle” the press. The press stifled itself when the dolt took office and has been a fellow traveler with Bush throughout his administration. If the MSM views the current electronic surveillance as an invasion of privacy, then they have only themselves to blame for relinquishing their responsibillty as a watchdog of governmental operations in order to protect the public interest. If ignorance is bliss–’Tis folly to be wise.

]]> By: The Mantis » Blog Archive » The War on the 1st Amendment and Our Press http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-568342 The Mantis » Blog Archive » The War on the 1st Amendment and Our Press Mon, 22 May 2006 20:24:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-568342 [...] http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. –1st Amendment [...] [...] http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. –1st Amendment [...]

]]> By: Jack http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-568006 Jack Mon, 22 May 2006 17:32:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-568006 <a href="http://www.truthout.org/imgs.art_01/3.052206BC1.jpg" rel="nofollow"> To Be Monitored by the N.S.A., Press 1 To Be Monitored by the F.B.I., Press 2 .... If you are a member of the Press... </a>
To Be Monitored by the N.S.A., Press 1
To Be Monitored by the F.B.I., Press 2
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If you are a member of the Press…

]]> By: mighty aphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567961 mighty aphrodite Mon, 22 May 2006 17:19:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567961 #73 - "It all began with the theft of the 2000 election." - Oft repeated stupid statement by flappe *****Dear Progs - I realize "personal responsibility" is not a progressive trait, but while you're busy whining about a "stolen" election and a "selected" President, please take the time to thank the 95,000 leftists who cast their ballot for Ralph Nader. Those are the people responsible for "depriving" Al Roar the presidency. #74 - "The only real news is available from overseas and on independent media on the net." - Just Plain *****Indymedia has a left wing tilt you should LOVE!! Nothing objective - but definitely left. I am amazed you forget the Dem boot licker Dan Rather and his ilk. Poor Dan - such a wonderful Dem suck up - undone by Microsoft Word. (It must have been a conspiracy of "evil"Corporate Powers.) #73 – “It all began with the theft of the 2000 election.” – Oft repeated stupid statement by flappe
*****Dear Progs – I realize “personal responsibility” is not a progressive trait, but while you’re busy whining about a “stolen” election and a “selected” President, please take the time to thank the 95,000 leftists who cast their ballot for Ralph Nader. Those are the people responsible for “depriving” Al Roar the presidency.

#74 – “The only real news is available from overseas and on independent media on the net.” – Just Plain
*****Indymedia has a left wing tilt you should LOVE!! Nothing objective – but definitely left. I am amazed you forget the Dem boot licker Dan Rather and his ilk. Poor Dan – such a wonderful Dem suck up – undone by Microsoft Word. (It must have been a conspiracy of “evil”Corporate Powers.)

]]> By: The Smirking Cynic » Keep Your Eye On The Ball http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567878 The Smirking Cynic » Keep Your Eye On The Ball Mon, 22 May 2006 16:27:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567878 [...] It’s the Twilight Zone: The fact that this country was, a scant 20 years ago, reporting on the horrors of the Soviet Union using the KGB to silence defectors of the communist party, and now appears to have allowed the our intelligence agencies to make threats to anyone who questions this administration’s policies can only be explained by Rod Sterling narrating to a TV audience that I can’t see. Thankfully, it appears that not everyone in the media has rolled over to accept being capitulation mokeys. ROSS: [I]t makes me feel, in a way — and this is, I think, the disturbing part — as if we are drug dealers or terrorists trying to traffic in information, and should we be using bags full of quarters like old Mafia capos to avoid having our phone calls traced? I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong; I don’t think any other reporter is, either. We’re trying to cover these stories, which are difficult, but which are very important. [...] [...] It’s the Twilight Zone: The fact that this country was, a scant 20 years ago, reporting on the horrors of the Soviet Union using the KGB to silence defectors of the communist party, and now appears to have allowed the our intelligence agencies to make threats to anyone who questions this administration’s policies can only be explained by Rod Sterling narrating to a TV audience that I can’t see. Thankfully, it appears that not everyone in the media has rolled over to accept being capitulation mokeys. ROSS: [I]t makes me feel, in a way — and this is, I think, the disturbing part — as if we are drug dealers or terrorists trying to traffic in information, and should we be using bags full of quarters like old Mafia capos to avoid having our phone calls traced? I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong; I don’t think any other reporter is, either. We’re trying to cover these stories, which are difficult, but which are very important. [...]

]]> By: sree.us » Good Night and Good Luck http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567867 sree.us » Good Night and Good Luck Mon, 22 May 2006 16:21:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567867 [...] Think Progress has an interesting post where it quotes ABC’s Brian Ross saying the following about government surveillance operations targetting journalists: ROSS: [I]t makes me feel, in a way — and this is, I think, the disturbing part — as if we are drug dealers or terrorists trying to traffic in information, and should we be using bags full of quarters like old Mafia capos to avoid having our phone calls traced? I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong; I don’t think any other reporter is, either. We’re trying to cover these stories, which are difficult, but which are very important. [...] [...] Think Progress has an interesting post where it quotes ABC’s Brian Ross saying the following about government surveillance operations targetting journalists: ROSS: [I]t makes me feel, in a way — and this is, I think, the disturbing part — as if we are drug dealers or terrorists trying to traffic in information, and should we be using bags full of quarters like old Mafia capos to avoid having our phone calls traced? I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong; I don’t think any other reporter is, either. We’re trying to cover these stories, which are difficult, but which are very important. [...]

]]> By: Audrey http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567796 Audrey Mon, 22 May 2006 15:02:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567796 When Brian Ross says to Kurtz, "...well, my gosh - what are we going to do about this? It means a lot more in-person visits." How naive can Brian Ross be? They <em>know who he is</em> and there are many ways of monitoring a person's activities. Big Brother is everywhere. When Brian Ross says to Kurtz, “…well, my gosh – what are we going to do about this? It means a lot more in-person visits.” How naive can Brian Ross be? They know who he is and there are many ways of monitoring a person’s activities. Big Brother is everywhere.

]]> By: Just plain mad http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567785 Just plain mad Mon, 22 May 2006 14:49:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567785 MSM corporate owners: <strong> "mission accomplished"</strong> Journalists have been pimping for the war. They are goose-stepping with the congress and the administration in spreading war across the entire middle east. The people watching the news only get propaganda anyway. The only real news is available from overseas and on independent media on the net. I suppose that the internet will soon be shut down from access to the outside world just as what China has done. MSM corporate owners: “mission accomplished”

Journalists have been pimping for the war. They are goose-stepping with the congress and the administration in spreading war across the entire middle east. The people watching the news only get propaganda anyway. The only real news is available from overseas and on independent media on the net. I suppose that the internet will soon be shut down from access to the outside world just as what China has done.

]]> By: frappe http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567669 frappe Mon, 22 May 2006 12:57:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567669 It all began with the theft of the 2000 election. Remember when ABC first called Florida for Gore?...When you can't trust that your vote is counted properly, you have no democracy. I still don't trust that our election apparatus is tamper proof. Electronic voting machines (Diebold) with no paper trail is an absolute outrage and MSM and the public in general should have been SCREAMING for remedial action. It all began with the theft of the 2000 election. Remember when ABC first called Florida for Gore?…When you can’t trust that your vote is counted properly, you have no democracy. I still don’t trust that our election apparatus is tamper proof. Electronic voting machines (Diebold) with no paper trail is an absolute outrage and MSM and the public in general should have been SCREAMING for remedial action.

]]> By: Right Voices » » Prosecution of Journalists Is Possible in NSA Leaks http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567644 Right Voices » » Prosecution of Journalists Is Possible in NSA Leaks Mon, 22 May 2006 11:45:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567644 [...] Think Progress, The Democratic Daily, Pacific Views, and The New York Times [...] [...] Think Progress, The Democratic Daily, Pacific Views, and The New York Times [...]

]]> By: Wes http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567597 Wes Mon, 22 May 2006 09:14:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567597 I have to disagree with those who call US governemt fascist, they are not they are commies in disguise. I have to disagree with those who call US governemt fascist, they are not they are commies in disguise.

]]> By: Beth http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567583 Beth Mon, 22 May 2006 07:52:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567583 I perceive the invasion into the professional work of journalist of a free press by such a powerful and covert agency such as the NSA, without not only oversight but outrage by the public for their violations of the 4th amendment, to signify the onset of a new form of politics in the US, and it is called Tyranny. Beth San Diego I perceive the invasion into the professional work of journalist of a free press by such a powerful and covert agency such as the NSA, without not only oversight but outrage by the public for their violations of the 4th amendment, to signify the onset of a new form of politics in the US, and it is called Tyranny.

Beth
San Diego

]]> By: Beth http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567581 Beth Mon, 22 May 2006 07:52:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567581 I perceive the invasion into the professional work of journalist of a free press by such a powerful and covert agency such as the NSA, without not only oversight but outrage by the public for their violations of the 4th amendment, to signify the onset of a new form of politics in the US, and it is called Tyranny. Beth San Diego I perceive the invasion into the professional work of journalist of a free press by such a powerful and covert agency such as the NSA, without not only oversight but outrage by the public for their violations of the 4th amendment, to signify the onset of a new form of politics in the US, and it is called Tyranny.

Beth
San Diego

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/comment-page-2/#comment-567514 Briseadh na Faire Mon, 22 May 2006 03:11:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/21/ross-surveillance/#comment-567514 <strong>ROSS: [I]t makes me feel, in a way — and this is, I think, the disturbing part — as if we are drug dealers or terrorists trying to traffic in information</strong> What did you expect, Ross. You've reported the Commander-in-Chief saying either you are for us, or you're against us. And then you go and start reporting things critical of Him. Which means you're against Him. And as Commander-in-Chief and a War-Time President He has unlimited powers under His interpretation of the Constitution. He might even decide to label certain reporters "enemy combatants" for their role in exposing the operations of the NSA, secret renditions to foreign countries, torture in Guantannamo and Abu Gharib, pictures of flag-draped coffins.... Note: While Corporate Media supported His ascent to Power, it will be the line reporters who will be incarcerated. ROSS: [I]t makes me feel, in a way — and this is, I think, the disturbing part — as if we are drug dealers or terrorists trying to traffic in information

What did you expect, Ross. You’ve reported the Commander-in-Chief saying either you are for us, or you’re against us. And then you go and start reporting things critical of Him. Which means you’re against Him. And as Commander-in-Chief and a War-Time President He has unlimited powers under His interpretation of the Constitution.

He might even decide to label certain reporters “enemy combatants” for their role in exposing the operations of the NSA, secret renditions to foreign countries, torture in Guantannamo and Abu Gharib, pictures of flag-draped coffins….

Note: While Corporate Media supported His ascent to Power, it will be the line reporters who will be incarcerated.

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