Bush ‘Doubts’ He’ll See Gore Movie; Wants To ‘Set Aside’ Global Warming Science
Bush ‘Doubts’ He’ll See Gore Movie; Wants To ‘Set Aside’ Global Warming Science
President Bush was asked this morning whether he will watch Al Gore’s new movie on global warming, An Inconvenient Truth. “Doubt it,” the president answered. He went on to argue that we need to “set aside whether or not greenhouse gases have been caused by mankind or because of natural effects.”
Two important points need to be made:
1. Bush casts his answer in terms of a debate that exists on whether greenhouse gases are caused by human activity. In fact, as ThinkProgress has repeatedly documented, there is no scientific debate on this issue. Not a single peer-reviewed study conducted between 1993 and 2003 challenged the consensus that the earth’s temperature is rising due to human activity.
2. Bush cannot solve the problem of global warming if he does not understand its root cause. By “setting aside” the issue of why the globe is warming, Bush wants to also sidestep the need for his administration to begin efforts to regulate carbon dioxide emissions, as he once pledged to do.
Sounds like Bush is someone who could really benefit from watching the movie. (It’s playing close to the White House. Here’s a map.)
Full transcript below:
QUESTION: Will you see Al Gore’s new movie?
(LAUGHTER)
BUSH: Doubt it.
(LAUGHTER)
But I will say this about the environmental debate: that my answer to the energy question also is an answer to how you deal with, you know, the greenhouse gas issue. And that is new technologies will change how we live and how we drive our cars, which all will have the beneficial effect of improving the environment.
And in my judgment, we need to set aside whether or not greenhouse gases have been caused by mankind or because of natural effects, and focus on the technologies that will enable us to live better lives and, at the same time, protect the environment.
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Bush set aside Science the same way he set aside the Constitution.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:33 pmWe need to set aside Bush.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:34 pmI saw a gentleman speak about how Nuclear war/testing could affect the growing season, shorting it up to a month, so it sounds like we just need to bring back above ground nuclear testing to combat global warming, problem solved, Gore gets his climate control, and the army gets new toys. A win-win if I’ve ever seen one
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:34 pm(We could even start the testing in Iran, deal with that issue too)
Pffft science is sooo 20th century. Realistically, I am not suprised. Bush has consistantly ignored science to promote a very anti-environment agenda.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:36 pmAnyone who does not think humans are contributing to greenhouse gases need only sit in an idling car in a closed garage.
Please post your results when finished.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:38 pmI understand that there are many problems with Bush’s stance on this issue, but at least he recognizes the need to develop new technology. He doesn’t want to blame his buddies in the oil industry, fine - at least he recognizes that regardless of the source something needs to be done.
Now, if only he would back up the rhetoric with something more than token investments. At the moment, the US is letting other countries develop these “new technologies”.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:38 pmHere’s the photo caption:
“Who wants to smell my finger?”
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:41 pmApparently the decider has reached superhero status - now when he decides to ignore something it ceases to exist.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:43 pmPhoto caption #2.
The rest of the story…
Do you know why Bush doubts he will see Al’s movie???
Bush: “I once tried to convince Laura to go see Al’s movie. ONCE!”
(This is for those who remember the movie Johnny Dangerously)
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:51 pmJust got this in my inbox:
eedback Loops in Global Climate Change Point to a Very Hot 21st Century
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:52 pmAnd my favorite part, this un-equivocating statement as to the state of research: “Serious scientific debate about global warming has ended, but the process of refining and improving climate models is ongoing.” I take scientific debate ended as meaning only a fool would think there is any chance anthropogenic activities are not leading to global warming.
Why not set aside science? I mean freedom, compassion, leadership, and integrity (to name but just a few) have been set aside, why stop at cold hard facts?
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:53 pmWants To ‘Set Aside’ Global Warming Science
Normally, I would be appalled.
So, I guess he was lying when he said during his State of the Union speech that he wanted to invest in Science and Science education… or do you think he just doesn’t know where Scientific Theories come from?
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:57 pmScience is hard. It’s based in too many facts. Americans need to just ‘feel in their gut’ that global warming isn’t happening. Much easier that way. Not as messy.
May 22nd, 2006 at 3:59 pmWell, you know what the relics of the Bush administration will be saying 40 years down the road when most cities along the U.S. coastline are under water…
“No one could have predicted…”
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:00 pmAnyone else notice the following
A typical Bush Q & A Session with the media
Reporter : [Insert serious question regarding Iraq War, Energy prices, the economy, immigration, or anything that is potentially threatening to the average American]
Bush : (Laughter)
Bush : [Insert smart aleky quip unrealted to question, ramble for an additional minute]
Bush : Laughter
WHAT THE HELL IS SO DAMN FUNNY Mr. Bush….
I am not laughing and lot of people in this country arent laughing, alot of soldiers in iraq arent laughing, alot or ordinary Iraqi citizens arent laughing, alot of people in NOLA arent laughing……
Would you like to clue us in on what is so funny about record deficits, never ending wars, high energy prices, stagnant wages, domestic wiretapping, human rights abuses…
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:02 pm#3 Squeeg - that’s genius man… we could keep global warming in check with nukular winters… fanfreakintastic!!!
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:03 pm“Why would I wanna see somethin that might make me sad or hafta think? I got plenty of visors to help me think about stuff I should think about. Besides I spend ma free time watchin 3 Stooges movies, taking naps and watchin out for them pesky pretzils. Gotta watch out for those things. They’re like the figure 6 axis of evil.”
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:05 pmOff topic: Bush and illegal immigration:
For more than a decade, Maria Galvan, 53, has worked for Bush, looked after his daughters, befriended his wife and won the affection of the First Family for her loyalty, decency and hard work. As governor of Texas, Bush encouraged his housekeeper to become a U.S. citizen.
Perhaps she was an illegal immigrant until that point? Anyone?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:06 pmBest moment of Presidency quotes: Carter, Clinton, and Bush
How did President Carter answer the question?
“I think the best time was probably dealing with the Middle East issue at Camp David,” he said, “and even better I think was the peace treaty that came along six months later. I made a very difficult decision over the almost unanimous opposition of my cabinet and my staff to take the initiative and to go to Egypt and to go to Israel to try to get Begin and Sadat to agree on a peace treaty. And when they did sign-both of them signed the agreement-I guess that was probably my best moment.”
http://www.americanpresident.org/history…
How did President Clinton answer the question?
JIM LEHRER: As we sit here right now, Mr. President, is this the best moment of your presidency?
PRESIDENT CLINTON: Oh, no, I won’t say that. I don’t know. So many things have happened here at home that have been important to me; passing economic plan, passing the Brady Bill and assault weapons ban, so many things have happened internationally, the role that I was fortunate to be able to play in the peace process in the Middle East and in Northern Ireland, but this could have the biggest long-term positive consequences if we do it right. But frankly, I hadn’t, you know — Sometimes people say “do you feel vindicated?” The answer is no. I think America has been vindicated. I think what we stand for has been vindicated. But keep in mind that there have been times in the past where people win a conflict and then squander the peace. So a lot of our work is still ahead of us. We’ve gotta get the people home, get the land mines up, work out the details of who is involved in the peacekeeping mission. We have to get this — We’ve got to organize police forces and civil government for the Kosovars. And then the really big thing over the long-run, our European friends want to take the lead in this but we ought to help them, we’ve got to get the World Bank and all these other people involved in a development plan for the Balkans that involves not just Kosovo, but Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Romania, and I hope someday Serbia if they have a government that respects freedom and democracy and human rights. So that these people have something pulling them together instead of these ancient ethnic troubles pulling them apart.
Now if we get all that done, it might be perhaps the most satisfying thing because it might prove that people can lay down their hatreds of people who are different. You know, I basically think free people will figure out a way to make the most of their lives and work out their problems if they can get the rules of engagement right. That’s why I gave somewhat of an extended answer to what you said about the Republicans. Because, I think, you know, differences are good. Nobody’s got the whole truth. But you gotta get the rules of engagement right. And I think what we did in Kosovo was profoundly important.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/europe/ja…
How did President Bush answer the question?
You know, I’ve experienced many great moments and it’s hard to name the best,” Bush told weekly Bild am Sonntag when asked about his high point since becoming president in January 2001.
“I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5 pound (3.402 kilos) perch in my lake,” he told the newspaper in an interview published on Sunday.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:10 pmshe has something for George!…lol…
http://www.rawstory.com/ news/ 2006/ Report_Bush_Blair_to_announce_phased_0522.html
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May 22nd, 2006 at 4:10 pmEven the flat earth society believes in the science of global warming. King George, I don’t believe, therfore it doesn’t exist. Take a look at air and water quality in Texas before and after the decider was finished as Gov. It will indicate what the King knows of environmental science.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:10 pmIt does not matter if global warming is real or not. But it is disturbing that Republicans are gambling that it isn’t without apparent thought.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:10 pmSqueegyt booe don’t spout such idioticy and we will stop assumimg you are as stupid as you seem most of the time
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:13 pm#16 G.W.SuperChrist
“that’s genius man… we could keep global warming in check with nukular winters… fanfreakintastic!!!”
Alright, thats one more person on board, bringing the total to two.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:13 pmBush should watch Michael Moore’s movie “Fahrenheit 9/11″ > he might learn from it that he is a stupid worthless jerk!!!
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:14 pmBush: Forget about science, sheeple, blind faith is the answer. When you have a direct line to God like I do you don’t need science. I already know everything that needs to be known. All you have to do is believe. I believe in Jesus and I believe in killing and I believe in torture and I believe in hate and I believe in spreading fear and I believe in stealing from the poor and giving to the rich and all those other things that Jesus forgot to talk about. Why I have more knowledge in my little pink finger than Jesus had in his entire lifetime.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:14 pmCaption contest:
My mama dun tolded me that the global is warmed by that fiery ball up dare in the sky
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:15 pmOf course GW wants to set aside Global Warming science, it is based on facts, and we all know how facts have definite a liberal bias.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:18 pmBetween 1993 and 2003? Well then, what about since 2003? OOPS!
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:19 pmWhy is all the focus on CO2? What about methane? Oh right, methane comes from cows, rice-patties, and production of natural gas. Anthropogenic global warming is only interesting if you can attack the oil companies with it… ;)
Science is the enemy of the Right. They base many of their core beliefs on unscientific principals. Sad that our President is the best argument for man being descended from chimps. (apologies to Darwin)
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:20 pmClif
“Squeegyt booe don’t spout such idioticy and we will stop assumimg you are as stupid as you seem most of the time”
Excuse me for offering possible solutions to this problem. Any attempts for emission cut downs while necessary, are going to take years to have a full effect, this would be a good stopgap measure until then. Set them off in some desert or pointless atoll, and the radiation effects on the rest of the world are negligible.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:20 pmCaption contest:
“The number of functioning brain cells I have”
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:21 pmAnd in my judgment, we need to set aside whether or not greenhouse gases have been caused by mankind or because of natural effects, and focus on the technologies that will enable us to live better lives and, at the same time, protect the environment.
Read this over three times and I still can’t squeeze a drop of sense from this statement. Forget what scientific facts are telling us so that we will be able to solve a problem. Stupidest thing I have heard in a….well since he last opened his mouth.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:21 pmOf course there global warmin’ stupit its summer.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:24 pmWhat about methane? Oh right, methane comes from cows, rice-patties, and production of natural gas.
Comment by Seixon — May 22, 2006 @ 4:19 pm
Not in comparable quantities to CO2! That would be the difference between how much you fart and how much your car pollutes the atmosphere. There’s a reason no one is doing studies on your ass…
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:25 pmSet them off in some desert or pointless atoll, and the radiation effects on the rest of the world are negligible.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 22, 2006 @ 4:20 pm
Not according to those who lived when the testes were above ground, there is a reason every major nuclear power finally agreed to stop above ground testing. and as for stopping global warming, how about the neo-con and reichwing appologist talking heads shut up for about 6 months and see if tyhis helps… at least the rest of us would enjoy the peace and quiet
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:26 pmMention Al Gore to Dubya Dunce Decider and he goes nuts! He is very touchy about Gore, because he knows Al won the election in 2000 and he swindled himself into the presidency!
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:30 pmSince Bush has spent twice a much money on alternative energy R&D as President Clinton and VP “Roaring” All Gore, I thought it was very sweet of him not to rub “Gores’ Green Nose” in it. (Do you think the GREEN nose is due to Gores’ malignant envy or a publicity stunt extolling his enviroMENTALism?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:32 pmClif
“Not according to those who lived when the testes were above ground, there is a reason every major nuclear power finally agreed to stop above ground testing.”
Scientific consensus can change, why I seem to remember reading about global cooling claims from around that time period.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:37 pmIn fact, skeptics are begining to jump ship.
Once skeptical, Michael Shermer, now advocates that “[i]t is time to flip from skepticism to activism”
He then presents a new arguement…
Go read for yourselves.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:37 pmA pop quiz for all of you Environmental Guardians: How many of the 15 signature countries in the morally superior European Union are adhering to Kyoto? What is the cost (in money, “pollution credits” and economy) to the 2 countries? I’ll be back to pick up your quizzes shortly…
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:38 pm“It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment. It’s the impurities in our air and water that are doing it.”
- Dan Quayle
This guy has more brains than Bush
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:39 pm#39
Some thx goes to Gore for keeping the presure on your boy Bush.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:39 pmPresident Bush was asked this morning whether he will watch Al Gore’s new movie on global warming, An Inconvenient Truth. “Doubt it,†the president answered.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:41 pmThey omitted Bush’s next sentence.
“But I am fixin’ to see that “Over the Hedge” movie. Heh Heh. That Steve Carrell makes me laugh.”
MA-where did you hear that stat? Bush in 2001 cut the alternative energy research budget by 30%. Do you mean Hydrogen research that will not effect us for 20 years?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:42 pmSo to whom are you billing this time, mighty?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:42 pmCaption contest:
Tonight Laura and I are playing finger puppets, heh heh, this is my best finger.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:42 pmI save the middle finger for the American people.
#46 - Might Hag doesn’t trouble itself with stats.
Or facts.
Or truth.
Or integrity.
Or decency.
Oh, I do go on…
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:45 pmI thought it was very sweet of him not to rub
Again, mighty, you’ve got it wrong. It’s not about how you feel about the numbers.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:46 pmAnd did you expect an impropmtu Bush to be able to say anything other than “Doctors want to practice Speculum Love”?
It’s actually “Sweet” when your president completes a sentence.
Sorry, Aphrodite, I seriously doubt your statement. Can you back that one up?
Hope all is well with you!
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:50 pmmighty’s husband has an I love my wife bumper sticker that she put on his Japanese import.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:50 pm#42 Hermaphrodite - does Jesus approve of you making shit up?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:50 pmAw, it’s just a matter of semantics: You call it: “Global Warming” or “Catastrophic Climate Change, bush calls it: “the Rapture” (just like how You call it “Domestic Spying” and bush calls it: “Terr’st Surveillance”)
..and after 5 years of hard work, you think he’s gonna stop trying to bring on the rapture NOW?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:51 pmZooscooper - You’ll just have to learn to use Google like the rest of us….(Hint: check the federal budget.)
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:52 pm#49-You are right, I forgot for a minute “it” doesn’t bother with the facts-Thanks for brining me back to reality! Too bad we can’t do that with MA…
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:54 pmWhat the heck were they laughing at?
Is this supposed to be a funny question?
Will you see Al Gore’s new movie?
Will you eat tomorrow?
(LAUGHTER)
Yes.
(LAUGHTER)
Do you get it?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:55 pmScientific consensus can change, why I seem to remember reading about global cooling claims from around that time period.
Comment by squegeeboo — May 22, 2006 @ 4:37 pm
Yes when a super computer had the processing speed of my desk top…..better models and better computers have improved the theory’s but since radiation has not changed. Some isotopes from a nuke blast are not healthy for anyone, if we can’t keep them from testing which is the current consensus, even with Bush’s June 2 .7Kton non nuke test, we should at least keep it deep underground
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:55 pm#55 - So, Mighty Hag, you’re not disputing your lack of integrity or decency?
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:56 pmCaption contest:
Question from audience: “In the 5 years since you were sworn in as president, how many scientists have you met with to discuss the issue of global warming?”
Bush: “One.”
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:58 pmmighty,
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:58 pmAll this time you spend propagandizing you could be tightening up your ass or maybe taking off that extra pound or two. Hell, just clean up alittle. Anything to keep your man.
Are the stretch marks gone? Is your husband happy?
“And in my judgment, we need to set aside whether or not greenhouse gases have been caused by mankind or because of natural effects, and focus on the technologies that will enable us to live better lives and, at the same time, protect the environment.
Read this over three times and I still can’t squeeze a drop of sense from this statement. Forget what scientific facts are telling us so that we will be able to solve a problem. Stupidest thing I have heard in a….well since he last opened his mouth.”
Comment by dlet — May 22, 2006 @ 4:21 pm
The way I read it is, “Let’s not point fingers at my friends Big Oil and such and hold them responsibile for the damage they have caused while they stole all your cash, let’s just help them develop new stuff for us to shovel our money at….here’s some tax dollars to subsidize them.
I suspect they know EXACTLY what’s going on and who’s responsible for it. They also know eventually it’s gonna come to class action ala smoking suits and AT&T and such.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:58 pm#7, sadly, 35% of people would still smell his finger. More shocking? 46% of adults would smell his “terrorism finger”.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:59 pmMan he looks demented in that photo…..chilling…
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:00 pmDumbya probably won’t acknowledge global warming until Washington is under water; then he will think it was a tsunami.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:00 pmHeres some info on Europe and Kyoto
http://org.eea.europa.eu/ documents/ newsreleases/ ghg_inventory_report-en
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2005/ 06/ 28/ AR2005062801248.html
Basically, CO2 is up up up, but overall their slightly down in total emissions, but but still not on track enough to hit their goals for 2008-2012
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:00 pmWasn’t that the finger he was using to mine gold during the Rangers games?
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:02 pmWe all understand the “inconvenient truth” that is the diminished mental capacity of this president. However, I want to hear more about this because it may drive my derision for this man’s mental capacity even lower - possibly lower than whale shit.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:04 pmaphrodite,
You are not only a fool but also color-blind. Gore’s nose is NOT green.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:04 pmAnd the Earth is not flat, either. Regardless of what you think.
And what should Gore envy? Bush’s high poll numbers?
#49 - Zookeeper, don’t worry. I checked the historical federal budgets and funding for alternative fuels, and Pres. Bush has steadily decreased the budget for these programs since he’s been in office. Can’t tick off his “special interest” base of Oil Companies, now can he?
I guess Mighty Aphro refuses to link to a source because she doesn’t want her mendacity uncovered.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:05 pm(Hint: check the federal budget.)
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 22, 2006 @ 4:52 pm
The same federal budget where they keep the expensives for Iraq off budget, the same one where they take from social security accounts to pay for tax cuts and then borrow from the Chinese and Japanese and OPEC to balance it at the end ? Is that the federal budget you might be referencing? You mean the one where Bush had to put the money back right after calling for alternatives in the SOTU speech but had cut the funding….
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:07 pmFirst, our President has not hesitanted to use his religiousness for political purposes when it it convenient. Let it be stated very clearly: It is very Christian-like to take care of the planet, to be good stewards.
Second, if we error on global warning side, some corporations may lose some short-term profits, but others will gain, but if we error on Bush’s side of non-science, we lose a lot, from our way of life to our very lives.
Science should triumph over short-term politics.
A President should NOT be closed-minded and unwilling to listen to ideas, otherwise he endangers all of us.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:10 pmMore proof that Mighty Aphro selectively filters her information. (Or only listens to Faux news. Same thing.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-srv/ politics/ interactives/ budget07/ agencies.html
“The department (Department of Energy) budget is essentially flat; the president’s budget shows a modest increase of $20 million to nearly $23.6 billion, but the agency says it is actually a decrease of $6 million from fiscal 2006. Included is $250 million to fund a global nuclear energy program that the administration hopes will lead to the expansion of nuclear power production domestically and abroad. The department called yesterday for the development of technology to recycle nuclear fuel and create waste that is less hazardous and more difficult to use in weapons.
The budget adds money to research some alternative fuel technology. Environmental groups said the funding increases are insufficient.
Some programs designed to increase energy efficiency would be cut, as would research money for hydropower and geothermal energy. The spending plan cuts funding for oil and natural gas research programs. The administration, which sought unsuccessfully to cut the programs last year, said the industry can afford to pursue the research on its own given high oil and natural gas prices.“
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:14 pmIt’s him giving his daughters their first OBGYN lesson.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:20 pmReplubicans haven’t been too fond of the theatre since 1865.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:23 pm#70 - I wasn’t worried, Dem Soldier. I just consider the source.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:27 pmThanks. :-)
Look at his face… he just looks… evil.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:27 pmThank You #5!!!!!!!!
Loved it!!
Dumbya has also expelled a lot of noxious gasses in his own plain spoken without saying anything way………
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:28 pmIt also setting himself up to say:
“We need to set aside the fact that me and my administration have been lying to y’all about everything from the very beginning, and try to figure out how to make a lotta money on some new fangled technology that runs on oil and batteries and dumb ya’ll down even further, like say to MY level! Heh Heh!”
Caption Contest:
“I’ll start believing in global warming when the guy up there tells me about it, but right now, he is only telling me to bomb Iran. What was I talking about?”
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:34 pm( I think he’s starting to look more and more like a televangelist, too…..)
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:38 pmHis rhetoric is about as believable as well…………….
Dear Zooscooper - since you have not demonstrated an understanding of “facts, truth,
integrity, or decency” I would recommend picking up a dictionary.
Frankly, I wish one HONEST American prog would emerge and reiterate to the world what Jacques Chirac emphasized when discussing global warming, “levelling of the economic paying field, globally”.
The goal of the emotionally charged enviro-saviours, the new York times and the Boston globe is to brush aside and ignore a Harvard-Smithsonian study, “Proxy Climaticand Environmental Change in the Past 1000 Years”. Before reading the study, I was skeptical. 1000 years? so what - the earth is millions of years old. But consider the exponentially smaller population 500 - 1000 years ago and the non-existence of autos, truck, manufacturing plants. What caused the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm? Sea Levels have risen and fallen throughout history - only self-absorbed environMENTALists and humanists believe they have they POWER to affect substantial climate change. Remember, this movement is about progressive/socialism spreading it’s evil tenacles of power and establishment of (…hum Kumbayaa together..) “One World Government.”
later…
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:41 pmWait …wait …wait …in a second…here it is…pheetttttt,
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:42 pmIn the words of Kofi Annan, “This is a President that cannot think properly.” It’s illegal to put mentally ill criminals to death in this country but completely legal to elect them President.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:49 pm#81
Oh sweet jesus, that is about the funniest thing I have read in while. The best part of course is MA believes every word of it. I especially liked the progressive/socialist movement spreading its ten(t)acles of power. or did she mean testicles? I also like that she didn’t bother to link her precious harvard-smithsonian study, but then again since they are part of the “east-coast liberal elite” how do we know they can be trusted?
Anyway ROFLMAO
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:49 pmWas that an expelling of a greenhouse gas in the general direction of a misguided mythical greek god?
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:51 pmI approve of the judicious offgassing of noxiuos fumes in the neighborhood of fouler yet smelling toxic wastes.
“Environmental groups said the funding increases are insufficient.” - Soldier for Dems
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:51 pm****OF COURSE they whine about their amount of funding increases - progs are weaned on whining about smaller increases in funding AT EVERY TURN…
You left out this nugget “…water vapor…”???
It turns out that stem cell fetus matter is responsible for that “water vapor”.
Gore may be a smart nerd (who actually served in war) who was correct all along, but thank god we got ourselves a good’ol frat boy. Too bad he didn’t drink himself into a coma at that prissy college.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:53 pmI guess MA missed this part-”Not a single peer-reviewed study conducted between 1993 and 2003 challenged the consensus that the earth’s temperature is rising due to human activity.”
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:54 pmHow does someone live in denial world? It is just strange and illogical.
Lil’ George had much the same response when asked if he intended to view another recent controversial movie about some of his cowboy buddies…….
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:55 pmAre we perhaps exhibiting a bit of denial here, Mr. president? A touchy subject mayhaps?
Bush can’t have an intelligent thought about science. He simply relies on political slogans for his thoughts. Of course he won’t see the movie, or try to educate himself in any way regarding what the scientists say (they’re not politicos, so what good are they?) - he won’t even try to be an effective leader and learn what his so called “enemies” are thinking. He prefers to remain ignorant in every sense of the word, and his administration honchos like it that way.
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:58 pm#81 - I picked up a dictionary to look up “Zooscooper,” and I found it! I also found a picture of a zooscooper and its contents were labeled, “Mighty Hag.”
Wow! I learn something every single day. Thanks, Mighty Hag!
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:58 pmQuestion from audience: “In the 5 years since you were sworn in as president, how many scientists have you met with to discuss the issue of global warming?â€
Bush: “One.â€
Bush: His name is Michael Crichton
(Laughter)
Reporter : Ahh, Mr President, Mr Crichton is an author
Bush: An author is a scientist….and vice versa
Bush: (Laughter)
Reporter/Press Pool : Laughter
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:04 pmJust look at this thug.
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:09 pmHe wouldn’t make a pimple on a President’s ass.
Science? We don’t need no stinking science!
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:14 pmLook, you have to be a little careful here. There are two issues you are conflating.
1) There is no doubt whatsoever that enhanced concentrations of greenhouse gases are due to us. None. There has been no doubt about that for decades. What is shocking in Bush’s statements is that he does not apparently seem aware of this. But then why should an incurious person like him be so aware? Gore has been on this since college days when the only gas Bush was interested in was that which foamed up in his kegs of beer. It is notable that even the laughable CEI ads underwritten by Exxon last week don’t doubt this and rather seek to argue that CO2 is “life”.
2) There is an overwhelming consensus that said anthropogenic greenhouse gases cause global warming. This is the consensus reflected in IPCC reports and in the Naomi Oreskes article you refer to in your posting.
To the extent there is any room for debate about global warming this is it. And the scientific debate is essentially nil on the matter.
So this is much, much more revealing about the level of idiocy at the top of the Bush administration than your post would suggest–he is disputing whether the greenhouse gases themselves are due to us. I believe you would have to go back to the 19th century to find any debate about that issue.
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:15 pmI smell greenhouse gas right now. Did somebody pull his finger?
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:20 pmMA lives in the world where:
Black is white
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:21 pmUp is down
Lies are truth
War is peace
Devil is Jesus
#95 Thanks for that info.
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:23 pmIf polution or something to the effect of global warming would just hit a fiancial institution like say Dean Ritter or Merrel Lynch we could call it what it is ” terrorism” and and just attack it , with a plan to win and a plan to exit we’d be able to turn it around a bit , if only we could find a small country with a dictator to blame .
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:33 pm#96, The Arc, I was going to use “Pull My Finger” as my entry in the caption contest.
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:38 pm#100 that was the idea of my post #82
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:42 pmLOL!!!
http://humour25.free.fr/php/radio.blog/?autoplay=6
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:51 pmmighty….
Bush has not spent more…
http://www.usnews.com/ usnews/ biztech/ articles/ 060306/ 6energy.htm
I’ll quote the best paragraph here…
Despite the hoopla of the president’s whirlwind tour, and his promises of more federal dollars in the future, the nation’s premier center for research into wind, solar, and ethanol energy labors under a shrunken budget at a time when consumers are facing record-high prices for fossil fuels. Regardless of the last-minute move that allowed NREL to hire back its fired workers, the center’s funding is down 11 percent from last year, and Bush’s proposed budget would not even restore the lab to 2005 levels.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:01 pm——————–
Love the last minute budget increase to re-hire the layed off workers. Just a PR stunt like the rest of the circus stunts he pulled off in the past that keeps the sheep blinded.
A Cartoon
by Mr. Fish
http://harpers.org/ CartoonMoammar-20380918230.html
Moammar and Bush make peace
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:12 pmIt is just so depressing/discouraging to deal with this fool of a president that we have anymore. It seems to me to have as much effect to just sit and cry out of exasperation with all his dangerous policies, policies based on thinking so completely lacking in real thought that it’s astounding, as to actually speak up about it. This is the White House that has demonstrated time and time again that it just won’t listen to anyone who goes against the given mantra for any conceivable issue. Be it Iraq or any other foreign policy question, the environment or any other science-based issue, or any other issue at all, the administration’s unchanging policy is more guns and less taxes on the wealthy and on corporations, and as for the negative consequences that may result for everyone but the select few who benefit, it’s just tough luck for us.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:28 pmJust goes to show that Bush will say whatever is placed in front of him. Let’s see: 10 billion a month in Iraq, when biorefineries and solar cell factories run about $100 million each (Honda just built one in Japan for $100 million). 10 billion a month equals 100 solar cell factories a month. The US renewable energy budget is about $100 million a year - for clean coal and carbon sequestration research, mostly! We could have a functioning renewable system in place this very moment - except for the fact that the coal, oil &energy sector runs the government, and can’t handle the notion of losing their lucrative markets to renewable competitors. Environmental and economic destruction linked to climate change is just too bad. Of course they are going to get Bush, their paid-for talking clown, to avoid the issue of global warming.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:29 pmDear Duped Denver Dem - One lab? My assertion of increased funding OVERALL is not refuted by your puny one lab evidence in US NEWS. Nice try….
Linda - Thank you for input on peer reviewed studies. But what I found extremely telling were the numbers utitlized by the architects of the Kyoto Discord. Taking numbers from 1990 RUSSIA- (right after the breakup of the USSR when industrial production was DOWN) and relying on THOSE figures shows how disingenuous many environMENTALists are. (Keep up the good work- the Party is proud of you!)
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:39 pm(Keep up the good work- the Party is proud of you!)
Comment by mighty aphrodite — May 22, 2006 @ 7:39 pm
You copied that from your nightly email from KKKarl
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:44 pmIf Bush simply took all the money he’s blown since he’s been in office and doled it out to each American, we ( all 300 million of us), each and every one of us, would literally be as rich or richer than any one of his oil buddy pals. This whole system is complete crapola. Seems to me the entire game is based on ‘keeping Americans on the bottom and keeping him and his buddies on top’. He works awful hard at stealing our money right out of our pockets and glad handing to his fat cats…laughing all the way to the Saudi Arabian bank.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:53 pmBush sez”Global warming is junk science”.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:58 pmThat’s the same kind of shit the Nazis used to tell their people.
The “Party” may be proud of you mighty, but the country thinks you are a criminal.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:59 pm#108 - “You copied that from your nightly email from KKKarl” -Comment by Clif —
*****No Clif, the NSA let me read your nightly e-ms from the KKKKarl Marx Party.”
Spongey - You must be confusing me with our latest congressional criminal honoree, Rep. Jefferson….Have a great evening….
May 22nd, 2006 at 8:06 pmDon’t get emails from any ficticous party that you made up just like your fantasy story of being a lawyer with all day long to blog….
May 22nd, 2006 at 8:15 pmMighty, ok here’s another, hmm even published by your govt.
http://www.energy.gov/media/FY2007Budget/lab.pdf
Since I know most fans of shrubby have an attention span of about 30 seconds, jump to page 76, you can see 2006’s budget was much less that 2005, and 2007’s requested budget even less. And since that’s only their request, shrubby could decide to not even give them that.
I do admit wind enrgy was increased, but that’s to keep blowing smoke up your ass. Everything else pretty much was cut.
May 22nd, 2006 at 8:15 pmNope, I don’t have your crazy ass confused with anybody. I am directly responding to a comment that you made, not some Congressman. Those were your words, no confusion here. IF anybody is confused it is you. You are the one who can’t keep a shred of normality in you posts. You are the luny here. You. I don’t have you confused with anybody else, just you. You you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you.
No confusion. It is you. Stupid.
Oh and BTW mighty. At least I am willing to say, as I always have, if Jefferson is guilty, string him up with all of the republican trash.
You on the other hand continue to pretend that the republicans are squeaky clean. You are a dumb bitch. Go get a job.
May 22nd, 2006 at 8:16 pmDamn Spudge! You gotta be drinking some strong coffee!
May 22nd, 2006 at 8:49 pmIt’s just too sad and ironic — if this administration and congress had been asked to spend billions on cleaning the environment, providing healthcare for all Americans, guaranteeing education for all students, and subsidizing R&D for technology research, (not to even mention using our resources to aid third world nations), they would have had nothing but contempt and scorn before laughing themselves silly. But the dollars being spent on a futile war based upon lies, with all the accompanying death and destruction seems to be OK with the Bush crowd. Priorities.
May 22nd, 2006 at 8:55 pm#66. you should read your own links.
The article cites a rise in 2003 over 2002 levels. However, the article also has a chart, which demonstrates a decline in C0 of 1.7% from the base year, 1990 through 2003.
The target, according to the chart on the link you posted, is a reduction of 8%.
Now, do you have the data from 2004 and 2005 to support your assertions?
May 22nd, 2006 at 8:56 pmOh and BTW mighty. At least I am willing to say, as I always have, if Jefferson is guilty, string him up with all of the republican trash.
You on the other hand continue to pretend that the republicans are squeaky clean. You are a dumb bitch. Go get a job.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
Spudge,
May 22nd, 2006 at 8:57 pmMighty already admitted twice on the Murtha thread to being a paid troll. That is his job at present; he even admits that the Rethugs pay better than the Democrats.
I think the troll must get paid by the asterisk, considering its normal (visually annoying) writing style.
********OK. THIS STYLE IS VERY CREATIVE. I HAVE SOMETHING CUTE AND WHIMSICAL TO STATE THAT HAS NO MERIT!!!! I AM SO DAMNED CLEVER I CAN HARDLY STAND MYSELF!! HEHEHE.
Comment by WEAK TROLL
May 22nd, 2006 at 9:09 pmThis, from the “morally superior European Union.” (thank you, Mighty Aphrodite, for that quote.)
http://org.eea.europa.eu/ documents/ newsreleases/ GHG2005-en
Meanwhile, emissions of CO in the United States rose 17.4% from the same baseline year, 1990 to 2003.
http://yosemite.epa.gov/ oar/ globalwarming.nsf/ UniqueKeyLookup/ RAMR6P5M5M/ File/ 06FastFacts.pdf
May 22nd, 2006 at 9:17 pm#119 Lora
May 22nd, 2006 at 9:27 pmThanks for the tip on MA — I missed it at #97 on the Murtha thread.
MA-Fat,lonely. bald,Loser!! Nothing you can post will change it. You can jump threads, hump IRI or what ever(there is nothing wrong with that) But, you can not change the fact that you///repeat YOU are a loser. Not only a big fat loser but, a very sick fat loser. Now this is not disrespectfull–just trying to help you (where the hell is “Pumpkin” when you need him?? Need you to move to Houston. Have great medical center here. IRI cleans windows there. We can get you real help. May take strong anti-cancer drugs..no worry. If you get sick IRI will clean up UPCHUCK> I think I am still within the “Terms of use” and have not reverted to ad hominem attacks.(sic); Will track down MA on next thread.
May 22nd, 2006 at 9:59 pmI doubt Bush will see me at Gore’s movie.
May 22nd, 2006 at 10:03 pm#107 Mighty,
OK lets say the Kyoto Protocol is a sham, doesn’t work. The nations that have signed on are one step closer to actually doing it. Pretending to do something, or faking it till you make it, is a lot closer to success than never had tried at all.
May 22nd, 2006 at 10:08 pmIf anyone at this point still thinks that this buffoon has any intention of pursuing our national interests, then I pity the fool. Bush can’t do anything because he’s surrounded by big energy and oil cronies. What’s ironic is that global warming poses and will likely pose a MUCH bigger problem to America than terrorism. Bush, the war criminal, is undermining our national security every single day he’s in office. IMPEACH THE BUFFOON.
May 22nd, 2006 at 10:17 pmPraise the leader, Thats the tip of the iceberg(that has melted). Now we get to experince what the Germans went through. We look back and say “WTF” were they thinking?? Now we know..They were watching Faux ? News. What troubles me is that when I go to parts of Germany with friends and meet their parents.. they are still pissed at us for our pilots droppings their bombs they did not have targets for on civilan places. Then I recoil and say WTF were you doing when 6 Million people were MURDERED?? So if any of you are international (I am a German desendent) and still can’t get over it.
May 22nd, 2006 at 10:43 pm[…] Think Progress comments on President Bush’s statement that we need to “set aside whether or not greenhouse gases have been caused by mankind or because of natural effects.†Considering that there is no real debate on this issue, the person that needs to set it aside is the president himself, who has been in denial since the start of his first term. […]
May 22nd, 2006 at 11:13 pmhttp://www.rawstory.com/ news/ 2006/ Paper_Powell_aide_key_witness_in_0520.html
http://www.rawstory.com/ news/ 2006/ Omnipartisan_Democrat_challenges_Feinstein_in_CA_0522.html
http://www.rawstory.com/ news/ 2006/ Report_Bush_Blair_to_announce_phased_0522.html
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May 23rd, 2006 at 12:04 amI see the Wire Tap propaganda didn’t play into the GOP Rove hands as they thought it would =]
If I were Bush/Rove/Cheney I would steer well clear of this Carbon issue. The writing on the wall doesn’t look good for them.
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:49 am[…] This is frustrating, but I cant say I'm at all surprised: President Bush was asked this morning whether he will watch Al Gore’s new movie on global warming, An Inconvenient Truth. “Doubt it,” the president answered. He went on to argue that we need to “set aside whether or not greenhouse gases have been caused by mankind or because of natural effects.” […]
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:51 am(Do you think the GREEN nose is due to Gores’ malignant envy or a publicity stunt extolling his enviroMENTALism?
Comment by mighty hypocrite
Although I realize it’s a waste of time to respond to Mighty Hypocrite now that he has admitted twice (on the Murtha thread) to being a paid GluttonsOfPlenty troll, I would like to remind others that Al Gore wrote a book, “Earth in the Balance,” on environmental matters while a Senator to Vice-President. I’m sure Mighty will respond that it was just a self-promoting book along the lines of true ego-tripping as in Bill Frist’s “Good People Beget Good People.” But I myself was involved, when he was VP, in setting up a conference call between him and some leading Asian scholars working in environmental science and sustainable energy. Can anyone imagine Bush wanting to hear the opinions of scientists outside of the oil industry–let alone those in other countries– on global warming?
May 23rd, 2006 at 2:50 amMighty shouldn’t project his own “malignant envy” on others.
global warming considerations and logic under the current far right wing leadership, and the evnironmental record of the current adminstration, are detailed here unfortunately, as environmental goups note, is is easily the worse environmental record in history. why?
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:39 am[…] I’ve learned recently that we are now destroying the earth; that for the first time in history (I guess) humans are causing ice to melt and the water level to rise. It is seriously affecting my life. I drove my SUV as fast as I could to work this morning, because I didn’t want it to be running longer than it had to. All I could do was think about the penguins getting closer and closer to the water. […]
May 23rd, 2006 at 7:55 amI wish Gore would speak out more against the Bush Regime, since all the Democrat Senators in DC are scared frightened bunnies! America craves someone like Gore to openly oppose Dubya! Former President Clinton and his wife Hillary have sold out to the Bush cabal now!
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:07 amThe title of Gore’s documentary says it all. Global warming is indeed an inconvenient truth to President Bush. God forbid that he should listen to anyone outside his tight little White House group, not to mention (oh the horrors!) a Democrat. Bush reminds me of Fonzie on Happy Days. Remember the trouble he had admitting that he was wrong? He struggled to even get the word out of his mouth.
I did find this in a current story on CNN.com:
“The president noted in 2001 the increase in temperatures over the past 100 years and that the increase in greenhouse gases was due to certain extent to human activity,” said White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino.
How convenient. He noted it. What probably constitues perhaps a 60 second verbal “notation” of greenhouse gasses was all that he is willing to commit to the discussion. Now he wants to set it aside.
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:16 amThe CEO of Shell oil was on Today this morning. In response to Couric’s question about the President’s statement on the science of Global Warming, the CEO flatly stated his company no longer questions the science of global warming and the time has come to start addressing it.
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:43 amIs this the same interview where Couric asked…
“would it help the long term reputation and value of your company and shareholders if you could feel the pain that consumers were feeling and decrease the wholesale value of gasoline? Is that something you would ever consider?”
Someone needs to give Katie a little lesson in supply and demand.
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:53 am*Newsflash*
Max Headrum has been upgraded to lead the Fox News Network. In 30 years there will be no need to fear the shortage of 30-35 year olds since his prototype is succeeding well in place of the oft-error prone human that has difficulty handling the overload of electromagnetic currents that are trapped inside the greenhouse gas umbrella. Let the planet burn, the economy will move along jus fine.
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:18 amSomeone apparently didn’t clue Bush in when in 2000 he advised Gore to suggest to Clinton that he demand that OPEC open the spigots to lower oil prices.
After he was comfortably installed as president, he announced to the world that we should just let the market decide prices.
Someone apparently didn’t clue Bush in when in 2006 he decided to suspend the resupplying of the SPR, yet in the campaign of 2004 he refused to do so because it would have a negligible effect on prices. Oh, and John Kerry suggested it, and we just can’t have Bush following the advice of the enemy, now can we?
Oh, and as far as this “supply and demand” thing goes, there are also two other factors that are in play, and that is greed and choice. Consider this: when the Chrysler PT Cruiser was first introduced in the spring/summer of 2000, many dealers were charging as much as $10,000 over sticker price because of “supply and demand.” However, many weren’t charging a penny over MSRP; they chose not to do so because, I would imagine, they weren’t greedy.
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:54 am#138 I’ll clue both you and Katie in….supply and demand means in order to keep the price high you limit supply (i.e. Cecil Rhodes and the diamond cartel=same difference). The suppliers control the price, don’t let them lie to you.
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:02 pmSomeone should tell Pres. Bush that Global Warming IS NOT the feeling he gets when he puts that white powder up his nose!
May 23rd, 2006 at 7:06 pmSo as we always see–MA ducks out when the heat is turned up. He has better things to do(what are their names?). Ma always will be “Sh*t for brains” and deep down loves that Sh*t. I repeat–I know you…Big fat bald loser!!! Disagree?? post it turd blossom!!. I will stay on your case..Chicken sh*t palms are sweatty, never had a date. gross tro women,, fu*ktard. Boy aren’t you “Special”? Come on fire back with blanks–just like IRI scum–know what that is??
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:22 pm[…] If this is the “same advice†that the President is receiving from his senior environmental adviser, then why is Bush now arguing that we should “set aside†the scientific evidence? […]
May 24th, 2006 at 12:36 pm# 143 Jokefriday/AssClown:
Why not pick on someone your own size,like me,asswipe.
May 24th, 2006 at 5:48 pmWhat a dirty nasty sh*t stained skidmark you are.
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WE ALL KNOW HOW YOU AND CARL ROVE FIXED THE ELECTION. THAT’S WHY YOUR SHITS FALLING APART AND REAL AMERICANS HATE YOU. KARMA IS EXPOSING YOU FOR NOT EARNING YOUR POSITION. CHEATER! VERY UN-AMERICAN IF YOU ASK ME.
May 25th, 2006 at 7:16 amWE ALL KNOW HOW YOU AND CARL ROVE FIXED THE ELECTION. THAT’S WHY YOUR SHITS FALLING APART AND REAL AMERICANS HATE YOU. KARMA IS EXPOSING YOU FOR NOT EARNING YOUR POSITION. CHEATER! VERY UN-AMERICAN IF YOU ASK ME.
May 25th, 2006 at 7:17 am[…] Despite Bush’s repeated efforts to muddy the picture, there is no real scientific debate over whether global warming is manmade or naturally-caused. Most recently, the National Academy of Sciences has unequivocally stated that natural causes cannot explain the unprecedented warmth over the last 400 years. Rather, “human activities are responsible for much of the recent warming,†the report states. The failure to acknowledge this scientific fact prevents Bush from taking the necessary actions to regulate carbon dioxide emissions, which he once pledged to do. […]
June 26th, 2006 at 2:57 pm[…] What to call those who deny that global warming is an urgent problem or who seek to delay strong action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, people like Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK) or President George W. Bush or Michael Crichton, author of State of Fear, a deeply flawed novel that attacks climate science and climate scientists? This is a question that everyone who writes on climate change must grapple with. […]
August 29th, 2006 at 11:02 am[…] Bush Not Likely to See Gore’s Film […]
January 13th, 2007 at 12:33 amDidn’t the scientists have the same consensus about global COOLING in the 70s? We were all supposed to freeze, no? I also recall the terror of impending acid rain, which was also confirmed by scientific consensus. What happened to that? Can’t science be polluted by politics? It seems that academia is corrupted by groupthink and the problem of the overextended open palm for grant money. Some notable scientists in relevant fields claim that global warming is a hoax. Real or not, global warming panic is going to be exploited - for more gov’t regulation, taxation, and intrusion. Real or not, DON’T PANIC!
February 15th, 2007 at 9:04 pm