Exxon-Backed Pundit Compares Gore To Nazi Propagandist
Exxon-Backed Pundit Compares Gore To Nazi Propagandist
Sterling Burnett is a senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, an organization that has received over $390,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998. This afternoon on Fox, Burnett compared watching Al Gore’s movie, An Inconvenient Truth, to watching a movie by Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels to learn about Nazi Germany. Watch it:
ExxonMobil doesn’t have a substantive answer to Gore’s movie, so it bankrolls people like Burnett to smear Gore personally.
Dutifully, Burnett recently wrote an editorial defending former Exxon CEO Lee Raymond’s lavish compensation (which amounted to $190,000 a day in 2005). He failed to mention his financial connection to the company.
Transcript:
That’s the problem. If I thought Al Gore’s movie was as you like to say, fair and balanced, I’d say, everyone should go see it. But why go see propaganda? You don’t go see Joseph Goebbels’ films to see the truth about Nazi Germany. You don’t go see Al Gore’s films to see the truth about global warming.
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“…and you don’t watch FOX to get the truth.”
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:08 pmHey look, it is fat bastard number 2!
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:10 pmexcuse #2 Gore rhymes with bore, therefore anything Gore does is boring, including the movie…i’ll straighten my tie and get on fox to say this
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:10 pmLee Raymond being fat bastard number 1, of course.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:11 pma logical conundrum: if a liar calls something a lie, is it a fact? if a propogandist organ accuses something of being propoganda — does that make a truth?
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:12 pmLee Raymond is fat bastard number 1, of course.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:12 pmHe will drown right along with the rest of us. Probably sooner seeing what a fat ass he is.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:13 pmI wonder how many “Hey you look like Michael Moore” comments he gets. And it probably drives him nuts.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:15 pmIs that is ASS or his face?
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:16 pmMaybe his neck’s throwing up, which is what usually happens
to me when the ‘F’ channel comes spewing into my living room.
Defend Lee Raymond’s salary?
Defend Exxon’s push at disinformation?
Where do they find these guys.
Caption Contest of the Day…
‘Look! I can fart though my mouth!’
Judd may not like it, but both of the last two quoted sentneces are true, without intending any implication that Gore is some kind of Nazi. He is not a Nazi, of course, and Burnett never said that he was one. But Gore is the purveyor of one of the biggest lies of our time. For more facts on this subject, see http://eteam.ncpa.org/ news/ new-study-points-to-an-inconvenient-truth-about-global-warming and http://www.cei.org/gencon/030,05331.cfm.
These site do, indeed, demonstrate the inconvenient truth about Al Gore’s twisted environmental scare tactics. It is Al Gore who is betraying us, by his efforts to undermine the American economy. Judd ought to be ashaned that he supports such a fool.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:16 pmhow much lower is fox going to go? is it even possible, I mean really….
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:17 pmBlue State Red - why don’t you spew your utter bullshit somewhere else. I would prefer to listen to CLIMATE SCIENTISTS, rather than bushretards.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:18 pmFOX News whores are going crazy today! What is in the Bush lovers Kool-Aid I wonder?
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:19 pmBTW, that business about Burnett’s compensation is nothing more than a one-sided cheap shot. It was Gore, not Burnett, who just took an entire entourage to Cannes for the premiere of his worthless propaganda piece. Would TP care to do an anlysis of who earns more from promoting his views on this issue - Burnett or Gore? No? I thought not.
When it comes to the truth, TP is always MIA.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:20 pmCan I just say Think Progress is ON FIRE today with their screen captures. The pictures of O’Leilly, Cavuto, etc. are priceless.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:20 pmthey are real scared aren’t they? now they will start making some big mistakes, should be real informing to watch them.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:21 pmi love it, the cei (in partnership with aei, pnac, etc) is quoted as a source for ‘facts’ but al gore, who does not profit from us stopping global warming (while the corrupt repug machine does in fact profit due to global warming) tries to peddle the bullshit because they PROFIT from global warming. how does al gore get anything out of this?
if anyone is harming the economy, it’s the corrupt pug machine and it’s trillion dollar hole in the iraqi desert.
way to go pugs. not only do you show your ignorance and greed, you prove it too!
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:22 pmWOW! The paid shills are really out today. Too bad there’s not a single peer-reviewed study that backs up CEI’s claim that global warming is simply a natural phenomenon.
But hey, Blue State Red, keep on trucking, brother! Maybe they’ll discover that the earth is actually flat, the moon really is made of cheese, and the current President was, in fact, born in Texas.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:23 pmGuy in the pic is so fat he has no neck > wow is he the son of Exxon’s fat slob Raymond?
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:24 pmso wait, bsr, you are arguing that no one can predict the weather, so as a result, al gore is lying?
keep watching fox, something has to entertain you after sesame street is over
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:24 pmGlobal warming is this guy in a sauna.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:24 pmBSR: Gore isn’t making any money from this movie. It’s all being donated.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:24 pmWell, like the Exxon ads say, “Carbon Dioxide, some see pollution, we see life!”
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:26 pmI would prefer to listen to CLIMATE SCIENTISTS, rather than bushretards.
Then I’m sure you will enjoy the sites I referred to above. Since you seem incapable fo finding them yourself, I consider it my civic duty to assist you.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:26 pmTHOSE OIL GUYS ARE ALL FAT, AREN’T THEY?
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:26 pmWhen All Is Lost…
invoke Godwin’s Law…
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:27 pmBSR - refer back just a couple of days here for how CEI is funded by Exxon.
Your global warming denial crowd is getting shrill because reality is intruding into your bubble. The truth is going to steamroll you all.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:27 pmI think all these fat bastards got that way since they heard McDonalds was healthy!
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:28 pmfolks, let’s lay off on the poor fellow. it is fox that is melting, and we should watch it so we will know how fascist news organizations face their demise. it will be a sociological marvel to watch them implode. don’t think we can foresee Alan Colmes being the “go to guy” anytime soon, but you will see some marked changes as their video clips come back to haunt them this year
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:28 pmI think for myself.
I’m not gonna listen to SHULTZ critique a movie he’s paid to debunk.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:28 pmPost 25 it is all the caviar they eat and gallons of champagne to wash it down > makes them very corpulant and plump > lol.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:29 pmHere’s an idea for an alternative fuel source…
How ’bout we round up all of these right-wing pundits/propagandists/smear artists and have them all just talk into a machine that converts all of their hot air into energy.
We could probably keep the lights on in the entire state of California with just these guys the oil industry has deployed to “counter” Al Gore and An Inconvenient Truth
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:29 pmto Blue State Red:
Give it up, buddy. Both ncpa and cei are funded by exxonmobil. Find an scholarly article in a reputable, juried scientific journal to refute Gore. Otherwise, peddle your balloon juice elsewhere.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:30 pma truly inconvenient truth is thinking that the propagandists of cei and ncpa somehow are more competent to investigate global warming phenomenon than is the actual scientific community.
… and I must say it takes some huevos grande for anyone on foxnews to call someone else goebbels.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:32 pmGore must really be on to something good, if they are pulling out all these hired guns. They can’t debate, so they attack. So how much is Exxon and the oil industry paying Fox and this guy to make crap up and attack, attack, attack.
Go Gore!!!
Wow, that guy knows Fox: if Fox was as you like to say, fair and balanced, I’d say, everyone should go see it… But… they know whence they came.
I’m no fan of Michael Moore or O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Coulter and the likes, but those with perspective and reason, know this is something entirely different. I loved Gore’s book “Earth in the Balance”. Gore has more experience, knowledge, and research than Fox has in its pinky.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:32 pmAnswer the question, Blue State Red: Did Sterling Burnett’s organization receive over $390,000 from ExxonMobil since ‘98? There goes his credibility, as well as yours. Of course, he didn’t actually refute anything Gore said to begin with.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:33 pmOh, yea. Another thing, BSR. Nice swerving the conversation away from the initial, OUTRAGEOUS comparison between Gore and Goebbels
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:33 pmEbert and Roepper and Burnett? Nah, two thumbs are enough…
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:33 pmHey Sterling (what a misnomer),
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:34 pmWhy hasn’t EXXON paid the 4.5 BILLION dollars
for toxcifying our Alaskan coastline yet?
That was nearly THREE DECADES AGO!
Caption #2…
‘Is it getting warm in here or am I imploding?’
Typical - can’t attack the message, so attack the messenger.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:35 pmThis guy is a paid spokesman for the oil industry, which eh doesn’t own up to, and he slanders Gore, who has worked for years on environmental issues, as a propagandist.
The entire Fox network is Bush-shit propaganda.
It looks like his neck is trying to blow a balding bubble.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:35 pmDear BSR,
What does it feel like to when you wake up at 3am, look in mirror and realise that you are a propaganda whore for the greedy selfish men who pay you to lie?
Repent and save your soul while you still can.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:36 pmI think Lee raymond looks like Jabba the Hutt. and that idiot Jabber jaws
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:36 pmBurnett needs to shut up his piehole.
Caption Contest:
Sterling Burnett, now weighing in at a cool 300 lbs. claims he lost 60% of his mass due to the increase in carbon dioxide within the atmosphere.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:37 pm#10 - the CEI is “A pro-market, public policy group”. Basically, they are special interest “whores” for the market and industry.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/ index.php?title=Competitive_Enterprise_Institute
CEI was founded in March 1984. In 1986, it began its “free market legal program,” which seeks to overturn government regulations that the CEI regards as inappropriate, such as regulations pertaining to drug safety, rent control, and automobile fuel efficiency (see the case study, Fuel efficiency standards and the laws of physics.
In March 1996, CEI’s Michelle Malkin and Michael Fumento published “Rachel’s Folly,” which claims that dioxin is good for you.
In 1997, CEI’s Adler lobbied Congress to cut off federal funding for the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation. In July, it participated in an anti-environmental summit sponsored by the conservative Western States Coalition in Spokane, Washington. Under the theme of “Responsible Legislation Through Education: Solutions That Work,” the conference showcased Michael Sanera’s attacks on environmental education. Ironically, while much of the conference focused on the alleged indoctrination of school children by environmentalists, the event featured a “trade show” of industry-sponsored K-12 curricula and materials.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:38 pm“The paid shills are really out today.”
Oh, they’re not paid shills.
They’re volunteers for the fossil fuel industries’ F.U.D. campaign.
Suckers. Dupes. Useful idiots.
If you read enough Ayn Rand, your frontal lobes decay to the point where you confuse pleasing rationalizations for fact, and come to believe that grovelling worship of the powerful is the same as defending liberty.
In ten years they’ll be in the same boat as the pathetic ideologues who still maintain that cigarettes don’t cause health problems.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:38 pmBy the way, Blue State Red, how much is ExxonMobil paying you? Hope that’s all getting reported to the IRS…
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:38 pmBSR: Gore isn’t making any money from this movie. It’s all being donated.
What exactly is being donated and to whom? Who gets credit for the donations? Who benefits from any marketing of related products? Who is paying for the production “expenses?” Who is paying for Al Gore’s trip to Cannes? Maybe Gore can afford to donate proceeds from the movie because he is independently wealthy - an his income stream includes revenues from oil company stocks. You haven’t even begun to analyze these issues, Judd, and you never intended to do so. That’s what makes your post a cheap shot.
BTW, since you raised the issue of Burnett’s alleged corruption, how about separate threads for Rep. William Jefferson (D-LA) and other corrupt Democtrats? It’s kinda hard to get excited about TP’s corruption complaints when TP never devotes equal time to ethically challenged Democrats like Mollohan and Jefferson.
Then there’s the DNC’s decision to throw its weight behind failed mayoral candidate Mitch (â€Mary Had a Little Brotherâ€) Landrieu, and “Credit Chuck†Schumer’s decision to throw Paul Hackett under the bus. Come to think of it, Schumer’s illegal foray into the confidential credit file of Lt. Gov. Michael Steele (R-MD) also deserved a thread of its own - one that TP never saw fit to provide. But given the opportunity, I’m quite sure that someone will be able to explain how virtue and honor were served by these events.
I shouldn’t be surprised at TP’s silence on these issues. Moral relativism is so rampant on the left that almost any evil - including political corruption - becomes an “eye of the beholder†kind of thing.
Time to go. Wake me up when you decide to be fair and balanced.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:38 pmI consider it my civic duty to assist you.
Comment by Blue State Red — May 23, 2006 @ 3:26 pm
Too bad your civic duty doesn’t seem to include military service for you or our family. how is you boy doing? I still have those army brochures, just need to know where to send them BSr
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:39 pmIts unbelieveable how the people who will not even think about accepting the scientific studies from all of the renowned institutions that say that global warming is happening and it is hapening from human activity. Its not like science just came out of nowhere funded by left-wing activists that want…..oh I don’t know to help the planet stay habitable. BSR and his ilk really are scared little shut-ins that are afraid of anything that challenges their way of thinking. That or they are paid to say what they say. Either way waste of a brain.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:39 pmThen I’m sure you will enjoy the sites I referred to above. Since you seem incapable fo finding them yourself, I consider it my civic duty to assist you.
Perhaps the best source of scientific information on the web re: global-warming is http://www.realclimate.org.
However, the material there demands more of an attention-span than Blue-State Red would ever be able to muster, so it most likely won’t do him much good. But I’d strongly recommend that the rest of the folks here check it out — pretty much everything that a mindless global-warming denier is likely to spew is thoroughly debunked there.
In particular, check out this realclimate.org article for a thorough demolition of the CEI’s latest bunch of anti-global-warming swill. Most of the article, unfortunately, will most likely sail over BSR’s head, but the rest of you should find it enlightening.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:41 pmI will defend this guy on precisely one basis: fat. Fat has nothing to do with it. I’m fatter than he is, no question. Fattitude has nothing to do with it.
On the other hand, I’m not evil.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:41 pm“BTW, since you raised the issue of Burnett’s alleged corruption”
Once again, answer the question, Blue State Red: Did Sterling Burnett’s organization receive over $390,000 from ExxonMobil since ‘98?
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:41 pmCaption #3:
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:42 pm‘Pat Robertson can bench press me with one leg’
Hey BSR:
That link you promote does not contain any work by any of the well known climate scientists, but by paid shills from Exxon-Mobil. In case you really want to study the effects of warming (which I doubt you do), read up this site
http://www.realclimate.org/
Oh yeah, these are the credentials of the guys who promote this site
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?cat=10
They are all accredited climate scientists who are published in peer reviewed journals (does your kind even know what that means ?)
Anyway, I do not think it’s my duty to educate self-lobotomized Bush-lovers, but then it doesnt hurt to try, does it now ?
BTW, I have a PhD in Engineering and work in the industry (although not in the Environmental/Climate Science Areas), I publish regularly and my technical training allows me to sift through and distinguish between scientific fact and talking points. So, please do not spew your red-state BS here and waste bandwidth.
The research and development which we (as in Dem voting Scientists and Engineers) do allow you to enjoy cheap computing power and the internet, so, please so us a favor and put it to good use by educating yourself and ridding yourself of the foot-in-the-mouth disease.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:42 pmI’ve seen the name Blue State Red here before. Dude, I’m not gonna get into it with you, but I am gonna ask you a question, one that I’m pretty sure CEI and their corporate masters never ask.
How badly do you want your kids and grandkids to be able to breathe?
Because that’s the chance we’re taking here. Republican, Democrat, rich, poor, white, black, redneck, elitist, none of it matters five days after you run out of potable water, or five minutes after you run out of breathable air.
If you really think the profit-driven oil companies are going to do anything about that, well, I wish you luck. But I hope you’ll understand if I work for the other side of the argument rather than chance on the goodwill and public spirit of ExxonMobil.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:45 pmOh. My. God. If the energy companies spent as much trying to improve their environmental standards as they do smearing everyone and anyone who speaks out about the TRUTH of global warming then maybe we’d have it all worked out by now.
If Faux News failed to report Burnett’s deep ties to ExxonMobil then they are even less credible then I already believed.
Science is on our side; the evidence is clear, and there are few if any scientists who are in any doubt about the reality of global warming, save those who receive big $$$$ from the oil companies.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:48 pmAnd you don’t go to Sterling Burnett for advice on male sexual attractiveness.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:49 pmFind an scholarly article in a reputable, juried scientific journal to refute Gore. Otherwise, peddle your balloon juice elsewhere.
It doesn’t matter whether I cite CEI, or NCPA, or Bjorn Lomborg (”The Skeptical Environmentalist”), or Freedom 21 Santa Cruz (http://www.freedom21santacruz.net/site/article.php?sid=17), or Frederick Seitz’s Petiton Project (http://www.oism.org/pproject), or any of a dozen other sources. You will still plug your ears and cover your eyes and protest that the debunking of the global warming myth just ain’t so. Go ahead, live in denial. Just don’e try to impose it on me.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:49 pmYo Blue State Red
Then there’s the DNC’s decision to throw its weight behind failed mayoral candidate Mitch (â€Mary Had a Little Brotherâ€) Landrieu
This was a made-up smear that has been retracted by Drudge; see
The rest of your stuff is trying to change the subject.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:50 pm“Time to go. Wake me up when….”
BSR, do you feel a coma coming on? Might wanna check your blood sugar level……
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:50 pmWhat a porker! Oink! Oink!
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:51 pmThat whole “Gore took an entourage to the premiere” garbage was an unfounded lie by Drudge which has since been retracted as the real truth is that they WALKED to the theatre, but that didn’t stop people from accepting the bullshit.
What was that about doing more research?
RIIIIIIIIIIGHT….
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:52 pmAnswer the question, Blue State Red: Did Sterling Burnett’s organization receive over $390,000 from ExxonMobil since ‘98?
I don’t know. Has Al Gore received millions of dollars in oil stocks and oil stock revenues over the years? If both things are true, who’s the hypocrite?
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:52 pmThat whole “Gore took an entourage to the premiere†garbage was an unfounded lie by Drudge which has since been retracted as the real truth is that they WALKED to the theatre
By “they” I assume you are referring to Gore and his entourage.
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:57 pmFrederick Seitz’s Petiton Project (http://www.oism.org/pproject), or any of a dozen other sources…
That OISM petition???? What a $#@! joke! Amongst the “scientists” who signed that petition are dentists and veterinarians! BSR, do you really think that someone who has been trained to snip off Fido’s gonads is a credible climate-science expert?
May 23rd, 2006 at 3:58 pmThere seems to be a deafening silence from the coal industry. The policy implication of greenhouse gas induced global warming is that we should stop using all fossil fuels, not just oil. And this country uses just about as much coal as oil. But we get this kind of defensiveness from the oil industry, and I haven’t heard peep from the coal industry. Wonder why.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:00 pmGore Unveils $125 Billion Energy Plan
Just think, with Gore as President, we could have spent $125 Billion to help ease pollution and lessen our dependence on foreign oil, instead, we are spending $400+ billion on a pointless war in Iraq.
If Gore has alot of investments in Oil and Gas companies, he isn’t promoting policies to increase the value much. I don’t know, must of your other points are worthless right-wing smears that are demonstratively false, so this point probably is too.
BSR, you truly have no conscience
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:03 pmJust ask BSr about his heroic military service, that usually shuts him up.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:04 pmMmmm… Jefferson. Way to go off-topic there :-p
But as for him (Jefferson)… well, to me the case is pretty open-and-shut. He’s on video accepting a bribe from an informant, they found the money in his freezer, he’s guilty — lock him up and throw away the key. What is there to talk about?
The Burnett/CEI thing… again, it looks kinda scummy from here. The CEI gets a whole lot of money from Exxon/Mobil. Ergo, they profit by some back-scratching in return (assuming, of course, that they are not outright a front group). Again, can you find a single peer-reviewed journalistic study that “debunks” global warming claims? Preferrably in a journal that gets high marks for its review process, but any would be a start.
As for Gore’s film… well, I seem to recall the “taking an entourage to the showing” claim a few days ago; it was debunked — they walked.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:05 pmHey BSR…
Maybe Jefferson doesn’t get his own space here just yet simply because his crimes haven’t reached the level of, oh, say, Duke Cunningham. Funny what you find at the end of a Yahoo! news story about Jefferson:
Republican Randy “Duke” Cunningham of California, a Vietnam-era jetfighter ace, was sentenced in March to more than eight years in prison for accepting bribes on a scale unparalleled in the history of Congress.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:06 pmBSR, do you really think that someone who has been trained to snip off Fido’s gonads is a credible climate-science expert?
I don’t know. Do you think that someone like Al Gore, who thinks he invented the Internet, who was a bag man for some Buddhist monks, who employs “alpha male” consultants, and who is a trained lapdog of the environmental left, is a “credible climate-science expert”? Al Gore is a product of the Jim Crow South, a child of privilege who has never distinguished himself in any field of endeavor. The fact that you believe anything he says tells us a whole lot more about you than it does about me.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:08 pmBlue State Jerk,
Yes as we all know Gore was undermining our economy for 8 years in the 90s.
That’s why the economy was so horrible under Clinton/Gore.
BTW is there a bigger asshole than you on the face of the Earth?
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:09 pmSorry, Godfry. Fat floats. Otherwise everything else you wrote was o.k.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:10 pmOr his sexual orientation.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:11 pmBack on topic…
If Burnett and his group had been supporting Gore’s documentary, what would BSR and the trolls be saying?
“Oh, he’s just a paid shill. He’s a hypocrite because his group accepted money from ExxonMobil.”
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:11 pmYou know, it makes perfect sense that people like Blue State Red are peddling their lies harder and harder these days. Deep down, in places where they don’t like to talk about, these guys are scared shitless. They know that when — not if, but when — the American public finally starts to realize that the Rush LimbaughBillO’ReillySeanHannityMichaelSavage Progapanda Machine has sold them nothing but a pack of lies on global warming, there won’t be a police force in the world that will be able to stop the angry mobs from seeking them, and their supporters (such as Blue State Red), for some very public, and very gruesome, public executions.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:12 pm…a child of privilege who has never distinguished himself in any field of endeavor. The fact that you believe anything he says tells us a whole lot more about you than it does about me.
Comment by Blue State Red — May 23, 2006 @ 4:08 pm
Damn…for a minute there I could have sworn you were talking about George Bush!
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:13 pmBlue State Nuts,
Did you get this our of your ass?
“an his income stream includes revenues from oil company stocks.”
Gore does not own a single oil company stock, asshole.
Gore was not wealthy while in office. And his post-2000 wealth comes mostly from Apple, Google. The two best companies in the world. Unlike ExxonMobil.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:16 pm“I don’t know. Has Al Gore received millions of dollars in oil stocks and oil stock revenues over the years? If both things are true, who’s the hypocrite? ”
Care to come up with a response that actually makes sense? And more importantly, BSR, are you going to stop ducking the point of the original post, that a paid shill for ExxonMobile compared Gore to a Nazi?
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:17 pm“A child of privilege who has never distinguished himself in any field of endeavor” actually better describes someone else, someone formerly affiliated with Yale, the Texas Air National Guard, the Harvard Business School, the Texas Rangers, and Arbusto, who happened to be appointed by the Supreme Court in 2000.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:17 pmSo what we have here, is a guy who has accepted thousands of dollars from the oil industry, telling us that global warming caused by human made pollution is a myth. This follows the statement by Bush that we “need to set aside” global warming science. The biggest problem we face, is the deep pockets of the oil companies, and the greed of individual people. Instead of honestly assessing the impact of humanity on our environment, we are reduced to quoting junk science and political partisian ideas. We may be lost.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:18 pmcomic book guy was unavailable for comment.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:19 pm“It doesn’t matter whether I cite CEI, or NCPA, or Bjorn Lomborg (â€The Skeptical Environmentalistâ€), or Freedom 21 Santa Cruz (http://www.freedom21santacruz.net/site/article.php?sid=17), or Frederick Seitz’s Petiton Project (http://www.oism.org/pproject), or any of a dozen other sources.”
Again, I want to see a PEER-REVIEWED journal with an article. Petitions aren’t good enough — I want a study that has been published and reviewed by a reputable scientific journal, preferrably within one of the relevant academic fields (”Science” does all right, but it tends to be too broad in scope). CEI is a POLITICAL group — a lobbying organization; that’s not a good scientific source.
Bjorn Lomborg… I look at the credentials and I see “M.A. in political science (Cand.scient.pol.) 1991. Ph.D. at the Department of Political Science, University of Copenhagen. 1994.” A political science degree, NOT a degree in any of the fields that would relate to climate change. That doesn’t really say “environmentalist” to me; how about you? His other work revolves around the application of welfare economics to global problems. Moreover, in relation to the “skeptical environmentalist”, he’s had some complaints lodged against him for scientific dishonesty — accused of both the use of misleading data and flawed conclusions. THE RESULT was a verdict in 2003 by the Danish Committee on Scientific Dishonesty that the book was “scientifically dishonest” (Bjorn Lomborg was considered not at fault because… wait for it… it wasn’t his field he was writing in). According to the wiki entry, the elements included fabrication of data, selective citation, deliberately misleading data, distorted conclusions, plagarism (!!!), deliberate misinterpretation of others’ results (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjorn_Lomborg). To be clear though, after he filed a complaint, the decision was voided on procedural grounds, and there was no decision to re-examine (because he was found ‘not guilty’ in the first place).
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:20 pm#72. Show me evidence that Al Gore thinks he invented the Internet. A transcript will be fine, but not hearsay.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:22 pmDon’t pay attention to this guy. He is a time waster, he’s posted similar rhetoric in multiple other blogs. Really, there is no point in addressing his posts.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:22 pmBSR said…
The fact that you believe anything he says tells us a whole lot more about you than it does about me.
It is a simple matter for scientifcally literate folks to verify that Al Gore’s claims about global-warming are backed by real climate-scientists. When it comes to global-warming, nobody has to take Gore’s word for anything — they can consult the climatology literature themselves to verify that Gore is correct.
And of course, Al Gore never claimed to have “invented” the internet. What he *did* claim is that he provided crucial political leadership (funding, legislation) that made the Internet what it is today. Anyone familiar with the history of the Internet realizes that Gore played a very important *political* role in the development of the Internet.
You don’t believe me? Then just ask Vinton Cerf.
The “Gore said he invented the Internet” claim is so manifestly stupid that you should be too embarrassed to bring it up.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:24 pmAnother great example of PR pollution. Unreal.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:26 pmThanks for the coverage – I’ll be linking it over at the DeSmogBlog.
Dear BSR..
Your jousting at windmills dude..Gore has his own financial group which ONLY puts money into companies that are doing something about Global Warming..and..his Think Tank recently enlisted THREE repubes who aren’t as narrow-minded as you apparently are:
Brent Scowcroft, national-security adviser to presidents George H.W. Bush and Gerald Ford, Lee Thomas, EPA chief under Ronald Reagan, and Teddy Roosevelt IV, venture capitalist and great-grandson of his namesake, the GOP president.
Global warming shouldn’t be a partisan issue..only the repubes and Faux news makes it one.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:26 pmthese guys are scared shitless…
Comment by Gramma Millie — May 23, 2006 @ 4:12 pm
Here Here Gramma!!!
This does seem to be a very strange phenomenon… I don’t remember this much organized resistance to Fahrenheit 911.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:26 pmHeh. I digressed a bit — looking up Lomborg was interesting.
NCPA is a political policy group — again, NOT an academic source at all. It’s work is to influence the political tide, not to perform strict scientific studies.
“Freedom 21 Santa Cruz is a freedom policy center that celebrates the principles of self governance and individual liberty which inspired the Declaration of Independence. We are individuals who advance the freedom of all by promoting the protection of unalienable rights in local, state, and national government.”
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:29 pmTime to boycott Exxon. They are plowing their obscene profits into more deceptive ads and lobbyists, meanwhile they have not paid to clean the mess from the Exxon Valdez.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:29 pmWow. Who needs comedy central when you have Burnett belching into a microphone.
I see that CEI was not wanting to go down alone. Toss the anchor to NCPA.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:31 pmWow. Who needs comedy central when you have Burnett belching into a microphone?
I see that CEI was not wanting to go down alone. Toss the anchor to NCPA.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:31 pmDear Blue State Red:
Please get help. Its out there. Your self-loathing is hard to watch. You are in my prayers.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:36 pmBSR, you keep trying to spew these right-wing talking points, that have no basis in reality.
What Gore said,
“During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.” - Al Gore
What does Vint Cerf, the inventor of the Internet Protocol have to say about Gore…
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:37 pmGlobal warming to people like this happy troll here is nothing but an opinion - much akin to their stance on evolution. They have no regard for the scientific method whatsoever, so it’s not surprising the stuff they will try to pass off as ’science’. After all, science to them is either ‘observations and numbers that I can use to support my position’ or ‘observation and numbers that I cannot use to support my position and therefore must label as junk’.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:41 pmseems the only real question for BSR is ‘ when and where did you see Gores movie?
come on back after you do.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:41 pmOne fart from that guy will raise the ocean levels 40 feet.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:41 pmBOYCOTT EXXON. I’m realling liking the way that sounds. Among the foul slag of oil companies, they are the worst of the filthy worst. They really distinguish themselves in bottom-of-the-barrel pure eviltude. Think I’ll start today.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:42 pm#99 - Geez, I just got back from lunch…
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:44 pm$390,000 from Exxon Mobil, what is that $100,000 per chin?
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:46 pmWould you care for just one more wafer-thin chocolate mint Mr. Creosote?
!kaboom!
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:48 pmOf course, the Republicans always project their own traits and misdeeds upon the Dems. That’s how they cope with who and what they are. And, what better comparison do we have to the Nazi’s of Germany than our current administration?
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:49 pmI cannot wait to see this movie. I hope it plays to packed houses for weeks!
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:52 pmreferences to al gore and the internet:
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:54 pm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.dailyhowler.com/h032699_1.shtml
Here is what the VP said when he chatted with Wolf on March 9:
GORE: During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.
And of course Gore did take the lead, within the Congress, in promoting and advancing the technical developments that have led to our now-beloved Net. Here’s what Internet guru Vinton Cerf told the Post’s John Schwartz:
SCHWARTZ: Vinton G. Cerf, a senior vice president at MCI Worldcom and the person most often called “the father of the Internet†for his part in designing the network’s common computer language, said in an e-mail interview yesterday, “I think it is very fair to say that the Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given it and related research areas by the vice president in his current role and in his earlier role as senator.â€
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http://www.cnn.com/ ALLPOLITICS/ stories/ 1999/ 03/ 09/ president.2000/ transcript.gore/
GORE: … During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. …
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http://www.interesting-people.org/ archives/ interesting-people/ 200009/ msg00052.html
From: vinton g. cerf
As you know, there have been a seemingly unending series of jokes chiding the vice president for his assertion that he “took the initiative in creating the Internet.” Bob and I believe that the vice president deserves significant credit for his early recognition of the importance of what has become the Internet.
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http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh120302.shtml
On September 1, 2000, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich addressed the American Political Science Association. His remarks were broadcast on C-SPAN:
GINGRICH: In all fairness, it’s something Gore had worked on a long time. Gore is not the Father of the Internet, but in all fairness, Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet, and the truth is—and I worked with him starting in 1978 when I got [to Congress], we were both part of a “futures groupâ€â€”the fact is, in the Clinton administration, the world we had talked about in the ’80s began to actually happen.
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it’s pretty clear that Al Gore does not think he invented the internet. it’s equally clear that Newt Gingrich and Vinton Cerf think Gore’s remarks are absolutely accurate.
When the ocean levels rise maybe we can use him for a raft, or a cruise ship.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:55 pm…a child of privilege who has never distinguished himself in any field of endeavor. The fact that you believe anything he says tells us a whole lot more about you than it does about me.
Damn, BSR, you should have been a speechwriter for John Kerry in 2004!
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:58 pmJust to provide info on Gore’s financial group:
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:59 pmFrom an article on Wired’s website. Along the way, Gore has become a neo-green entrepreneur, taking his messianic faith in the power of technology to stop global warming and applying it to an ecofriendly investment firm. The company, Generation Investment Management, which he cofounded nearly two years ago, puts money into businesses that are positioned to capitalize on the carbon-constrained economy Gore and his partners see coming in the near future
I wonder if they cut Sterling’s legs off to fatten him up like they do baby calves for veal. mmmm veal
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:03 pmThe only problem I can foresee with a Gore - Feingold ticket in 2008 is they are good guys. They could never lie and cheat like republicans. They could never spread false information to win. Then again…with republicans like Frist and McCain, the truth is all they will need!!!
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:04 pmOne of the most disgusting flaws of this pervasive, corporatist, neocon agenda is their notion that “conflict of interest” is a non-issue.
Remember how - just a month ago - Justice Scalia insisted that those who don’t trust judges to recuse themselves from cases involving THEIR OWN FRIGGIN’ FRIENDS “Should get a life”…? Unreal. The standard is that even the mere *appearance* of conflict of interest should lead the judge to recuse himself/herself.
Impartiality and independence are so far removed from the modern lexicon that I begin to wonder if anyone knows WTF the two terms even mean.
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:07 pmRemember - it’s Fox, not facts.
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:10 pmAccording to BSR, Pete DuPont–heir to the chemical fortune–is a “climate expert.”
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:17 pmLook at the rear end of a pig, lift its curly tail, look into its eye, and tell me it doesn’t look exactly like Sterling Burnett’s mouth.
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:21 pmIf the Right is going to compare Al Gore to Joseph Goebbels, we should be quite comfortable comparing President Bush and the Radical Right to the Taliban.
For the details, see:
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:27 pm“American Taliban.”
Blue State Red-who pays you? If you’re doing this for free you are a FOOL! GOOD MONEY goes to peddle your horseshit, so if you’re dumb enough to volunteer I’ve got JUST the place for you to volunteer. It’s called IRAQ. You might find it on a map. If you know how to use one…
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:38 pmHey, kids, there’s no point in addressing trolls like bsr any more than once. You’ve offered him excellent source material, and he has declined to read any of it. You have offered him evidence and reason on the questions at hand, and he has changed the subject, insulted you, or, well, whatever that sputtering thing is that he does.
Always offer evidence and reason to your opponents, but, when they decline in favor of raving on, just ignore them. BSR, like any troll, makes quite clear that he only wants to get a rise out of you. So stop entertaining him, and he’ll go elsewhere.
There will always be those who are merely contrary, and it’s a waste of energy to court them. Our audience is the majority of Americans, who are reasonable and fair-minded, no matter how disillusioned they are by the coarsening of our politics. Let’s talk to those who want to learn the facts, and leave cranks like bsr to their own. They can carp about us to one another as easily as they can to us.
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:40 pmTwo additional comments.
In 1985, I was a participant in a symposium at Carnegie-Mellon University where a demonstration was made of the ability to “read” an article in a scientific journal located in the Cal Tech library. Knowing that this was an outgrowth of a DARPA project, we asked who had been promoting the development of this system. Al Gore was one of the first names mentioned. In 1987, I was sitting next to him on a plane trip from DC to Nashville. I mentioned witnessing the demonstration at CMU and sat beck enthralled while he updated me on what had developed since, how funding was a constant battle in Congress, and how someday, every student in every college in the country would have access to the libraries of every great university in the country.
Second, this horseshit about alternative energies being a drain on our economies is becoming ever harder to swallow. Denmark decided to develop wind tecnolgy and now leads the world in wind turbine technolgy and wind farm design while Scotland is beginning to call itself the “Saudi Arabia of wind”. Wind power tends to create new jobs in high unemployment rural areas and high tech manufacturing jobs in turbines, rotors and tower components.
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:49 pmTwo additional comments.
In 1985, I was a participant in a symposium at Carnegie-Mellon University where a demonstration was made of the ability to “read” an article in a scientific journal located in the Cal Tech library. Knowing that this was an outgrowth of a DARPA project, we asked who had been promoting the development of this system. Al Gore was one of the first names mentioned. In 1987, I was sitting next to him on a plane trip from DC to Nashville. I mentioned witnessing the demonstration at CMU and sat beck enthralled while he updated me on what had developed since, how funding was a constant battle in Congress, and how someday, every student in every college in the country would have access to the libraries of every great university in the country.
Second, this horseshit about alternative energies being a drain on our economies is becoming ever harder to swallow. Denmark decided to develop wind tecnolgy and now leads the world in wind turbine technolgy and wind farm design while Scotland is beginning to call itself the “Saudi Arabia of wind”. Wind power tends to create new jobs in high unemployment rural areas and high tech manufacturing jobs in turbines, rotors and tower components.
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:49 pmAh, but notice he vanished. Donno if it was my rebuttal or someone else’s, but he retreated to (hopefully) think about things.
Look, if we don’t try to convince these people, then what are we doing here? Just a giant echo chamber?
I figure that if all my “useless” responses to trolls over the last year produces one single convert to my views (or even to the idea of rational debate), I’m ahead of the game ^_^
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:51 pmFolks,
Don’t feed the BSR troll - it’s useless. The best antidote to that bozo is not to respond.
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:51 pmSunhawk,
In general I agree with you. However, some folks are clearly just trying to pick fights for the sake of it, no?
Yeah - this is pretty much an echo chamber. There’s rarely a lot of give and take here, frankly. If you find a place that really has it, let me know.
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:54 pmOf course Mr. Bennett is biased. His speaking on behalf of his paycheck.
Looks like there’s a fair amount of fat energy we could excavate from his neck though.
Overpaid, overfed, and totally unaware.
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:54 pmOf course Mr. Bennett is biased. He’s speaking on behalf of his paycheck.
Looks like there’s a fair amount of fat energy we could excavate from his neck though.
Overpaid, overfed, and totally unaware.
May 23rd, 2006 at 5:55 pm#48 BSRWhat exactly is being donated and to whom? 5% of ticket sales are getting donated by Paramount Classics to the Alliance for Climate Protection. You don’t really believe that Al Gore made this movie to get rich. Unless you’re an idiot. Well, I guess you might actually believe it. Who gets credit for the donations? That would be Paramount Classics.Who benefits from any marketing of related products? What “related products”? Action figures?Who is paying for the production “expenses?†The production company.Who is paying for Al Gore’s trip to Cannes?Probably Al Gore. Maybe Gore can afford to donate proceeds from the movie because he is independently wealthyI’ll bet he can. - an his income stream includes revenues from oil company stocks. Show us proof, please.
how about separate threads for Rep. William Jefferson (D-LA) and other corrupt Democtrats? It’s kinda hard to get excited about TP’s corruption complaints when TP never devotes equal time to ethically challenged Democrats like Mollohan and Jefferson.
Completely off-topic, but I’ll tell you what. Let’s say your Duke Cunningham and our William Jefferson cancel each other out. They’re not even close, but I’m feeling generous. And let’s say your Katherine Harris and our Alan Mollohan cancel each other out. Again, not even close. What do we have left? More than a dozen, probably more than two dozen, Republicans either under investigation, indicted, pled guilty, or identified as Representative #1, #2, #n in an indictment. We’ve got proud GOPers outing CIA agents, blowing CIA operations that were working undercover on Iranian nuclear proliferation, perjuring, lying to FBI agents, soliciting as gay prostitutes, shoplifting, trading in child porn, money laundering, losing tens of millions of dollars of workmen’s compensation funds in a rare coin investment scam, jamming the phonelines of a Democratic GOTV effort (because they just can’t win a goddam election if they have to play it straight!), … Shall I go on? Because I could keep going if you want. Yeah, BSR, let’s talk about corruption. Go ahead and stick your face in that hornets’ nest. Your party reeks with corruption, not just one or two pols working on their own. The GOP has institutionalized it. Go look up “K Street Project” and tell me what involvement the Democrats had in that. I’ll answer it for you: none. By definition, the K Street Project did not allow–forbade–Democrats to play.
Corruption, BSR? You don’t want to go there. Try to get back on the topic of the Fox propaganda organ calling Gore a propagandist, if you can think of anything intelligent to say about it.
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:02 pmAll a bunch of greedy pigs eating out of the same trough….spewing the same old hate and rhetoric, really pisses them off that it doesn’t work any more…conservatives hate us, because of our freedoms
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:06 pmSunhawk, I honor your intent, but I do think the effort is misplaced. A weakness of blogging, it seems to me, is that we don’t see comment from any of the undecided and curious. Who posts, everywhere, are the entrenched, whether friendly to reason or to ideology or simply to a camp. Blogs are so often like grade school lunchrooms, the e-air full of spitballs, and e-wedgies traded like so many baloney sandwiches.
I feel the same gorge rise when some snarky troll bloviates, but responding has never brought satisfaction. Trolls don’t post to engage discussion, but only because their gorge rose on reading the day’s texts. What you feel when faced with their obtuseness is what they feel when faced with challenging information. That’s how discussion gets so effectively sidetracked into expressions of anger - the motive on both sides of trolling is emotion and not reason.
Sunhawk, I applaud you for wanting to inform and to change minds, but the people you can address effectively are not conveniently plugged into Think Progress or any other web page. They are at work, in the restaurants, churches, parks, and schools. They’re not plugged in like the zealots we here commune with. Think of your own reasons for being here. Citizens without such passionate opinions as yours don’t have your reasons for reading blogs, either. They aren’t here. If you want to change minds, you must leave the house.
Which is where I’m going now - to a father’s group in my neighborhood. Over a couple of beers, I’m going to raise the question, “is all this immigration noise a deliberate distraction from the war?” I’m reasonably confident of the discussion to follow.
Please, find a way to do the same. Our majority is out there, but we have to go get them.
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:13 pmI love BSR saying “Gore took a whole entourage to Cannes.” It’s the same old tired crap about the Democrats swilling white wine, trying to cast them as rich and elitist–as if Abramoff’s buddies at his restaurant were drinking, what, Bud Light and eating chili dogs? That party is awash in cash, they are the new Robber Barons, they make Teapot Dome look like an episode of the Simpsons. And the press colludes in its ludicrous photos of Bush “clearing brush” and the incessant talk about how hot it is in Crawford. So, like, there’s no air conditioning in his mansion (it ain’t no ranch, folks).
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:15 pm[…] But this sort of behavior is integral to the right wing attack machine. […]
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:35 pmSomebody should tell Pres. Bush that Global Warming is not the feeling he gets when he puts that white powder up his nose!
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:38 pm#102 - RyanSeacrusr,
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:47 pmNo, it’s $78,000 per chin. You missed the top one.
From BSR’s “experts”:
“The National Center for Policy Analysis’ E-Team, is one of the largest collections of energy and environmental policy experts and scientists who believe in sound science and that economic prosperity and protecting the environment can go hand and hand.”
And Pete DuPont is one of their “experts” - Pete Freakin DuPont!
Nothing says “industry whorebag” like listing Pete DuPont as an “expert” on your site.
BSR: what insights into global warming do you think DuPont will offer?
You’re pathetic.
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:52 pmThe oil industry is afraid that people will actually wish to save their planet if they see the documentary that Al Gore is promoting. I for one am glad that we will all be able to have more water to vacation in and more land will be able to be hot so that we can have hot summers. Living comfortably on this planet is overrated. Of course I am being sarcastic. I read in a business magazine that the U.S. Department of Defense was conducting war games (on a computer) to deal with the possible unrest that the outcome of global warming will produce in certain areas of the world. Such outcomes may include flooding, decreased arable land, mass relocations of world populations and even mass unrest that will follow such outomes. This will not be anything to laugh at. It strikes me as odd that even as DoD does conducts such games, that the EPA is being used to sanitize what is actually occurring in the world as a result of global warming, though giving accurate reports to Congress is what the law requires federal departments to do. Pretty soon global warming will be a national security danger along with terrorism and other such matters. However, by then, the United States will be in no position to change things.
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:55 pmshieldvulf,
May 23rd, 2006 at 7:17 pmPerhaps I’m a hopeless optimist (I am at times), but I’ve always felt that “entrenched” isn’t permanent.
Also, in a way I write posts like that almost as much for myself as for whomever I’m responding to. It’s a way of exploring and re-examining my own positions. And, hey, a man’s gotta dream right?
Jabba says what?
May 23rd, 2006 at 7:18 pmI think he does have a faint physical resemblance to the man who always insisted he was #2 behind der fuehrer, that being Reichmarshall Meyer…err, Goering. So then we have a swollen Goering clone calling the President (which Gore is, crooks notwithstanding) the equivalent of poor gimpy Dr. P. J., who could not have been any better than #3 and perhaps even a notch or two down the list of shame.
Fox is damned near the functional definition of a whorehouse. I watch it for comedic relief…
May 23rd, 2006 at 7:20 pmIs this comparing Al gore to a Nazi? Didn’t Sen. Dick Durbin get in trouble for this type of referrence recently?
May 23rd, 2006 at 7:40 pmAlso off topic, but Pelosi demanded an investigation into William Jefferson, a damn sight better than the Republicans non-ethics committee changing the rules to protect DeLay.
May 23rd, 2006 at 7:44 pmUnless he was hanging out in France last week I wonder where he saw the film before it’s release date to have such an informed opinion?
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:23 pmThe earth is warming. So what? Looks like everybody here could use some mothering.
The entire US population is devoid of mothering.
Somebody help us all, puh-leeze.
Mother US
have a nice evening
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:29 pm[…] Crooks & Liars has the video of a pundit, Sterling Burnett, comparing the former Vice President Al Gore to Nazi propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, because of his film on global warming, An Inconvenient Truth. (Goebbels and his wife killed their six children before killing themselves a week before the surrender that ended of the Second World War.) As tristero points out at Hullbaloo, no one called Burnett out for it (warning: profanity like you would never believe!): The unprincipled fuck in the video at the link gets paid to compare a Vice President of the United States to a Nazi propagandist (and notice: no one tells him he’s gone “too far,” no one tries to interrupt what he’s saying; this is considered reasonable discourse on Fox News). And why does this shithead get paid to do such a thing? It’s not because he believes it. He knows he’s spouting bullshit. […]
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:35 pmGive a right wing loser $380,000 and he’ll tell you that 3 + 3 = 8 or that the Declaration of Independence was a Marxist conspiracy.
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:49 pmThe American economy has had it too good for far too long. To Hell with the American economy, the world comes first.
May 23rd, 2006 at 9:49 pmA little lesson in chemistry for the Bush illiteratti. The primary band of absorption for the Carbon - Oxygen double bond (of which there are 2 pair in a CO2 molecule) are solidly within the middle infra-red area of the electromagnetic spectrum. This energy, which is otherwise re-radiated to space in the form of middle to long wavelength IR radiation is absorbed by the overly abundant atmospheric CO2 where it creates vibrations along the axis of the C-O bond; i.e. it results in thermal energizing of the molecule. This energy is recycled throughout the atmosphere via the physical processes of convection and conduction, hence global warming. This isn’t theory you F***ng morons. This is the underlying principle behind Infrared Spectroscopy, a long standing analytical method in the chemical sciences. Oh, and one other thing: CO2 solubility decreases markedly with increasing water temperature, so the oceans are even now gradually losing their ability to absorb this additional CO2. If you think that the little weasel in the White House knows what the hell he’s talking about, then ask him to explain the upward trend in global temperatures, the decreasing glacial coverage in the polar regions, or a noticeable increase in the strength of tropical storms aka hurricanes. Yea, chicken little, I’m talking to you. The sky is falling and you’re about to become roadkill.
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:10 pmI believe I saw this gasbag on TV last night during “24″ for an ad for “DirectTV.” He kept chasing around Verne Troyer yelling “GET IN MAH BELLY!”
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:12 pmyes, bsr is total backwash and wishes he could actually live inside karl rove’s asshole. it’s almost big enough, but not quite.
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:13 pm#145 - Dave Barnes,
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:20 pmW doesn’t care, he’ll be dead by the time disaster strikes (Unless stem cell research takes off after he leaves office.).
The American economy sold wheat to Russia in the mid-seventies. They needed it. The American economy helped China become a powerhouse economy in and of itself. The American economy built more than refrigerators, much to the chagrin of Adolf Hitler. The American economy builds jets, rockets, and arms for sale to countries like Iraq so they could wage war against Iran for eight solid years. Iran fought a useless fight.
The American economy has helped the world when there has been an hour of need. Canada’s economy hinges on the health of the American economy. China’s economy hinges on the health of the American economy.
The Japanese Imperial Army was wreaking havoc in east Asia during the Second World War. The Bataan Death March was no picnic. Not even close to a cakewalk.
Dresden was bombed night and day until over 267,000 people were dead. More than Nagasaki and Hiroshima combined. Germany had gone too far. The Allied forces were tired of Hitler’s shenanigans. They wanted it all over with.
Now, the same is true of the hijacked US government. The world is tired of the Bush Cabal’s shenanigans.
It couldn’t be any worse. However, it could get worse. If the US economy fails, expect the world’s economy to fail first.
This is all very serious business. America needs some relief from the neocon nuts, but they are so ensconced inside the workings of the US government, they’re like ticks on a dog.
America needs help, bad. Global warming is a red herring and meaningless compared to what the American people are really up against.
America has fallen from grace thanks to George Bush and the neocons.
The world had better hope the US survives. It ain’t going to be a pretty picture if it doesn’t.
I remember reading a quote in an opinion article some years back. It read: “America is great as long as she is good.”
America doesn’t look too good these days.
I don’t care what anyone does. If you demonize all of America because a few shortsighted policies, you are making an unfair judgment. America is more than just a picture of a few corporations greedily filling their pockets.
America is getting a bad rap when it should be the neocons and the Bush Cabal statists that caterwaul obscene diktats that make everybody miserable.
They’re pathetic, those neocons and the Bush buddies. They make America look bad.
Enough
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:22 pmThanks all of you for a great romp through 142 posts. The reference to Creosote of Monty Python was the high point for me. I teach chemistry in high school, and did a sustainability unit this spring with the kids. It was fun to watch the light bulbs go on as the gang realized that demographically we are heading for a lack of oil anyway - why not look into the alternatives. The brightest among my students were the most engaged and ready to push for official changes in policy. Nothing like a few facts about the world to get kids thinking.
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:40 pmI believe it was the Frenchman Alexander Touqville? that the said the quote “America will great as long as America is good” America now has too much religion, not enough thinking. We have enough wealth but not enough intelligence to distribute the wealth fairly for all. Enough information to change and build the world into a better place, but not the courage to pick up the book.
George
Al Gore
May 23rd, 2006 at 10:58 pmThe legitimate President of the United States
BSR: I’m sure that someone has pointed out to you by now that your “sources” are all conservative “think tanks” (a contradiction in terms, if ever I have heard one) or groups heavily funded by