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ThinkFast: May 23, 2006

By Think Progress on May 23rd, 2006 at 8:59 am

ThinkFast: May 23, 2006»


Writing in this weekend’s Washington Post, prominent conservative fundraiser Richard Viguerie criticized “Bush’s base betrayal.” Yesterday, the White House responded by emailing around previous quotes of Viguerie’s criticisms of Ronald Reagan. Viguerie responds, “That is standard operating procedure for this White House: Put the spotlight on the president’s critic, rather than respond to the critic’s arguments.”

Despite Condoleezza Rice’s insistence that “No one would like to shut down Guantanamo more than this administration,” Bloomberg reports, “They’re settling in for the long haul at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.” Work is almost complete on a new $30 million state-of-the-art detention facility.

A story written by Amir Taheri, a prominent neo-con, regarding new legislation in Iran “allegedly requiring Jews and other religious minorities to wear distinctive-colored badges circulated around the world last weekend before it was exposed as extremely dubious.” Juan Cole described the article as “typical of black psychological operations campaigns,” particularly in its origin in an “out-of-the-way newspaper that is then picked up by the mainstream press.”

“Railroad to Nowhere” off the tracks? A wasteful $700 million earmark to relocate a railroad line in Mississippi “will not be included in the conference report for the emergency supplemental bill…, a Frist budget aide said Monday,” though “a spokeswoman for the author of the provision, Senate Appropriations Chairman Thad Cochran (R-MS) said it was still on the table.”

Public Citizen yesterday released a report, “The Bankrollers: Lobbyists’ Payments to the Lawmakers They Court,” which provides “more proof of the symbiotic relationship between K Street and Capitol Hill.” The report found lobbyists and their political action committees have given members of Congress $103 million since 1998.

President Bush once again labeled a political milestone in Iraq as the crucial “turning point.” “We can expect the violence to continue, but something fundamental changed this weekend,” Bush said.

U.S. anti-terror policies worldwide undermined human rights in 2005,” according to Amnesty International’s newest annual report. “The US relentlessly pursued its ‘war on terror’ under a shroud of secrecy, unlawfully transferring terror suspects around the world, ignoring allegations of torture and ill-treatment refusing to close the detention camp in Guantánamo Bay.”

The last reporter in Iraq for the federally-funded Voice of America news service is leaving, and VOA’s Baghdad bureau is closing. But the reporter “isn’t leaving because of the general violence. She’s leaving because ever since she reported on a Shiite-run government torture center, she’s been threatened, had her phone tapped, and had two apparent assassination attempts against her.”

Corruption in Iraq “has worsened dramatically since the war began,” ranging from “epic schemes involving hundreds of millions of dollars in government contracts [to] smaller-scale cases such as the purchase of better grades by university students.”

And finally: The Public Commission on the Oregon Legislature recommended that “Oregon legislators and staff members should not be drunk while performing their official duties.” “The new policy was suggested by Steve Doell, president of Crime Victims United, who said he and another member of the group noticed alcohol on the breath of at least one legislator at the end of the 2005 session while they were advocating tougher drunken-driving penalties.”

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146 Responses to “ThinkFast: May 23, 2006”

  1. unbelievable Says:

    “That is standard operating procedure for this White House: Put the spotlight on the president’s critic, rather than respond to the critic’s arguments.”

    Because they have no argument. You can’t argue with the truth without looking like a fool - so they attack the messanger. Which is quite ironic coming from draft-dodging drunks. Welcome to the New America.


  2. Mash Says:

    Have the Republicans finally discovered the Constitution? Or are they just scared?


  3. unbelievable Says:

    Work is almost complete on a new $30 million state-of-the-art detention facility.

    In the late 90’s I worked on a state-of-the-art detention facility that housed over 500 prisoners. It cost only $24 million. (Keeping in mind that inflation in the last decade has been negligible).

    How many people are they planning to house in Guantanamo Bay? Should some of us start making reservations for a room with a view now?


  4. squegeeboo Says:

    “And finally: The Public Commission on the Oregon Legislature recommended that “Oregon legislators and staff members should not be drunk while performing their official duties.””

    Sounds like a bunch of Fascists trying to force legislators into acting a specific way.


  5. unbelievable Says:

    The report found lobbyists and their political action committees have given members of Congress $103 million since 1998.

    No wonder some of them want even more… Greed has no boundaries!


  6. unbelievable Says:

    She’s leaving because ever since she reported on a Shiite-run government torture center, she’s been threatened, had her phone tapped, and had two apparent assassination attempts against her.”

    Oh yeah, this is just so much better than under Saddam. Sheesh…

    So we;ve spent 2500 American lives, hundred of billions of dollars, and our global reputation to make-over Iraq into just a different version of corruption.

    Just think of what we could have bought instead…


  7. unbelievable Says:

    he and another member of the group noticed alcohol on the breath of at least one legislator at the end of the 2005 session while they were advocating tougher drunken-driving penalties.

    Do as I say, and not as I do… Apparently.


  8. Jay Randal Says:

    Sen. Carl Levin has decided to betray the Democratic Party and the nation by voting YES for General Hayden of the NSA illegal wiretapping fame to run the CIA! Everyone who cares about liberty must call or fax Levin to demand that he resigns from the Senate and moves to Israel!


  9. squegeeboo Says:

    “he and another member of the group noticed alcohol on the breath of at least one legislator at the end of the 2005 session while they were advocating tougher drunken-driving penalties.

    Do as I say, and not as I do… Apparently. ”

    They weren’t driving. And I’m sure a bit of booze livens up those sessions nicely.


  10. unbelievable Says:

    .MAYBE I SHOULD ASK THESE QUESTIONS TO MY GOOD FRIEND SAMMY BOY!!!!……SAMMY BOY!!!! WHAT’S UP HERE!!! SEEN OSAMA LATELY?…….
    Comment by she’s too cool — May 23, 2006 @ 9:09 am

    Santo,

    You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people all of the time - but never all of the people all of the time.

    Stop yelling. It’s going to get you in trouble again.


  11. unbelievable Says:

    Sounds like a bunch of Fascists trying to force legislators into acting a specific way.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 9:14 am

    Sober? You have a problem with expecting our public servants to be sober at work? Libertarianism is too liberal for you dude.


  12. she's too cool Says:

    unbelievable!!!
    don’t mistake Santo with Prez Bush!!!…Bush can’t even say it!!!….nice try unbelievable!!

    “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people all of the time - but never all of the people all of the time.”

    and it looks like you can’t say it either!!!!


  13. Preznit Pinhead Says:

    How much alternative energy research would the money spent on the Iraq disaster have bought us? It’d be nice not to have to rely on petroleum for our energy needs, wouldn’t it? I guess it’s preferable to kill & maim hundreds of thousands of people to get your mitts on all that black gold though.


  14. she's too cool Says:

    George is that you???….


  15. unbelievable Says:

    Santo - atleast I am coherent.


  16. Preznit Pinhead Says:

    The democrats have been trying to make themselves irrelevant for years with their philosophy of being “just like the republicans, only slightly less so”. I still get a few calls for $$$ now & then and I tell the person on the other end that I’ll start giving money if the dems start acting like a true opposition party again. Seems to be falling on deaf ears though.


  17. squegeeboo Says:

    unbelievable
    Way to validate it with a response, looks like I’m gonna be running my filter again today.

    as for this gem
    “Sober? You have a problem with expecting our public servants to be sober at work? Libertarianism is too liberal for you dude.”
    As long as they’re staying at a reasonable level, like below a .04 BAC, I have no issue with them having a cocktail, or glass of wine during session.


  18. she's too cool Says:

    oh yeah we all see that!!!….are you in the oval office now?….perhaps under the desk or somenthing like that?……please!!!!….


  19. she's too cool Says:

    …you can fool some peole sometimes but not all the people all the time!!! and take this coherent message to the bank!!!…..:)


  20. dlet Says:

    President Bush once again labeled a political milestone in Iraq as the crucial “turning point.”

    Iraq has had so many turning points it is shaped like a pretzel. Bush is gonna choke on this one too. War based on ego. Not following a rational plan for a war and occupation. All adds up to failure. What a legacy he will leave. If Iraq ever finds peace it will be through another person with no thanks to this administration and its lack of well thought out ideas.


  21. trueblue Says:

    Santo - atleast I am coherent.

    Comment by unbelievable

    And liked and respected by your fellow posters…



  22. unbelievable Says:

    Way to validate it with a response, looks like I’m gonna be running my filter again today.

    It’s posts are getting deleted. It’s for the rest of us who don’t have your bunny filter. Unlike you, I was thinking of the benefit of everyone…

    As long as they’re staying at a reasonable level, like below a .04 BAC, I have no issue with them having a cocktail, or glass of wine during session.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 9:30 am

    Think about that one - really - and get back to me. I don’t think you yet understand the ramifications of legislating while drinking.

    And, keep in mind, there’s a reason normal people don’t drink at work either.


  23. squegeeboo Says:

    “Iraq has had so many turning points it is shaped like a pretzel.”

    Maybe, but all of them turned a corner to success!!


  24. unbelievable Says:

    And liked and respected by your fellow posters…
    Comment by trueblue — May 23, 2006 @ 9:34 am

    Thanks… :)


  25. Punchy Says:

    Despite Condoleezza Rice’s insistence that “No one would like to shut down Guantanamo more than this administration,”

    Uh…then shut it down?!?!? WTF am I missing here? Why even insult us with these bullshit lines, Rice?


  26. she's too cool Says:

    …is today the dumb bell convention here or what? i missed that?…hey judd why didn’t you tell me that? …..now i feel like the smarter one here……oh you girls give a bad wrap to girls period!!!…..oh well…….:)


  27. unbelievable Says:

    Maybe, but all of them turned a corner to success!!
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 9:36 am

    Oh, I have got to hear this - start listing those successes…


  28. Miro Says:

    A story written by Amir Taheri, a prominent neo-con, regarding new legislation in Iran “allegedly requiring Jews and other religious minorities to wear distinctive-colored badges circulated around the world last weekend before it was exposed as extremely dubious.” Juan Cole described the article as “typical of black psychological operations campaigns,” particularly in its origin in an “out-of-the-way newspaper that is then picked up by the mainstream press.”

    We need a regular feature when these come up, like Atrios’ “Whanker of the day” , something like “BlackOpAlert BlackOpAlert”


  29. squegeeboo Says:

    “It’s posts are getting deleted. It’s for the rest of us who don’t have your bunny filter. Unlike you, I was thinking of the benefit of everyone…”
    OOhhh, so they are, did not notice, I just wish it would keep the comment # with a deleted message, so it dosn’t throw off the numbering when refering to previous comments.

    “Think about that one - really - and get back to me. I don’t think you yet understand the ramifications of legislating while drinking.”
    I know if you did it right, you could use it to your advantage, and use it a way to grease the wheels of compromise, and that if it was kept to a low enough amount the effects would be negligable. I also know that it would allow the Kennedy types to get riproaring wasted and it isn’t a good idea, but I can dream, can’t I?

    “And, keep in mind, there’s a reason normal people don’t drink at work either.”
    Bosses?


  30. dlet Says:

    #24
    Maybe, but all of them turned a corner to success!!

    Blinded by the light
    Revved up like a deuce
    Another runner in the night….


  31. unbelievable Says:

    OOhhh, so they are, did not notice, I just wish it would keep the comment # with a deleted message, so it dosn’t throw off the numbering when refering to previous comments.

    The first one so far… but give it time. Santo can’t help but clog a thread with raving nonsense and Judd doesn’t seem to like that.

    Then don’t use numbers for reference - use the “comment by” line. Easy enough to copy and paste.

    I also know that it would allow the Kennedy types to get riproaring wasted and it isn’t a good idea, but I can dream, can’t I?

    I think most Americans would rather have sober Representatives.

    “And, keep in mind, there’s a reason normal people don’t drink at work either.”
    Bosses?
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 9:42 am

    No.


  32. trueblue Says:

    Unbelievable,
    These 2 are so incredibly irritating, I cannot see why you put up with them.
    More power to you.


  33. unbelievable Says:

    More power to you.
    Comment by trueblue — May 23, 2006 @ 9:50 am

    This is my typical day (I am currently teaching high school Science to mostly 15 year olds :). Santo is mental if not physically a teenager, and for all intents and purposes - SpongeBob is close enough.

    But, would rather have a conversation with an adult. You up for it?


  34. trueblue Says:

    Yeah, looks like we have to shoulder today’s topics.
    Just wondering, what science are you teaching? Bio? Phys Sci?


  35. Paul in Mexico Says:

    BUSH AND ROVE - SPIN THIS!

    The NYT is reporting that the Iraqi Administration, from top to bottom, is the corrupt. There is not a department that is not corrupt to the core. Missing are billions of dollars.

    Bremer, Senor and KBR taught them well.


  36. squegeeboo Says:

    “SpongeBob is close enough.”

    Ha, mentally a teenager means I took a step up in your rating scheme.

    “President Bush once again labeled a political milestone in Iraq as the crucial “turning point.” “We can expect the violence to continue, but something fundamental changed this weekend,” Bush said.”
    I liked the headline I stumbled into better, something like
    “Insurgents now fighting against Democracy” Says Bush.
    It has a much better spin factor, and when thats all you have to work with, give it all the spin you can.


  37. trueblue Says:

    I come here every day and read all the posts.
    It’s gotten to the point where I have almost no outrage left.
    Day in, day out, I hear about the staggering amount of corruption in this Admin. (and any Admin they touch) The lies, the broken laws, the hatred their base spews….

    I simply don’t understand how there hasn’t been anything done about this idiot yet.
    Anyone else feel this way?


  38. unbelievable Says:

    Just wondering, what science are you teaching? Bio? Phys Sci?
    Comment by trueblue — May 23, 2006 @ 9:59 am

    Physical (though the curriculum is more Earth Space at times, so that’s what I call it. Annoys the Administrators I don’t care for. Imagine that :). But in the fall, I’m going to a different school district to teach architecture to 11th and 12th graders, and some community college kids. Should be a very different ball game because the ones who pass an entire year of high school drafting and are still interested in the field then come to me. I’ll have about half the students and probably 1/100th of the discipline issues that I do now.

    What about you?


  39. Sharon Cox Says:

    Good Morning Unbelievable……It looks like another good day to viset a sick friend and hug some trees…….To many little minds clogging up TP for me to bother with……Keep up the good work……..Blessings to you…


  40. trueblue Says:

    Unemployed at the time. Used to work @ MIT on the Human Genome Project. (thus my question…)
    Working on becoming a Physical Therapist.


  41. unbelievable Says:

    Ha, mentally a teenager means I took a step up in your rating scheme.

    When you’re silly like this - barely. Otherwise, when you want, you know that you can hold your own and ask some very valid questions without being a jackass like some people.

    It has a much better spin factor, and when thats all you have to work with, give it all the spin you can.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 10:07 am

    All I read was opinion. I want facts. So far - you haven’t given any proof to validate your claim of accomplishments.


  42. unbelievable Says:

    Used to work @ MIT on the Human Genome Project. (thus my question…)
    Working on becoming a Physical Therapist.
    Comment by trueblue — May 23, 2006 @ 10:15 am

    I took a class on genetics in college and loved it. I assume that’s your background? What was it like to work on such a major and cutting-edge project like that? Wow.

    A couple of my friends are PTs. They seem to like their careers a lot - and one was a career change. I gotta magine it’s hard not to enjoy a job where you are helping people.


  43. trueblue Says:

    Regarding the lobbyists 103million:
    Raw story states Rick Santorum is the largest recipient of said funds.
    How’s his race going in PA? Anyone know?


  44. she's too cool Says:

    show us yours unbeilivable!!! 14 year of experience and 6 of college of what?….did you get the master in blowing? or what? uh?


  45. Jules Says:

    I come here every day and read all the posts.
    It’s gotten to the point where I have almost no outrage left.

    trueblue - I understand what you mean. It gets to the point where it is expected. I listen to NPR and Air America every morning just to hear what else this administration has done. I am no longer surprised by the amount of corruption in the republican party. Isn’t that sad?


  46. squegeeboo Says:

    “I want facts. So far - you haven’t given any proof to validate your claim of accomplishments.”

    Don’t expect any from me, my list is short:
    1.Saddam on trial
    2.an attempt at an Iraqi Gov’t that is still in it’s fledgling state.

    I’ll try and use the a sarcasm tag from now on with those kinds of statements they are apparently to close to my standard position.


  47. unbelievable Says:

    Good morning Sharon - enjoy your day! Next week, I’ll be free for a couple months to do the same. :)


  48. trueblue Says:

    Unbelievable,
    It was great working on it, but there is more satisfaction in helping a person walk that growing DNA on agar!


  49. unbelievable Says:

    1.Saddam on trial

    I wouldn’t consider this major considering how we’ve screwed up the country and killed more people than he ever did. But, if that’s all Bush has, well, I hope the same standard will be applied equally to him in return.

    2.an attempt at an Iraqi Gov’t that is still in it’s fledgling state.

    Doesn’t seem to be going any better than the previous government - and we could have saved ourselves, as well as the Iraqi people the heartache of the regime change.

    I’ll try and use the a sarcasm tag from now on with those kinds of statements they are apparently to close to my standard position.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 10:21 am

    Or just use better sarcasm ;)


  50. trueblue Says:

    Jules,
    It is sad. That’s why I usually listen to Stephanie Miller in the morning; she gets me to at least laugh at some of this crappola. Air America gets me after that!


  51. Paul in Mexico Says:

    GOOD EVENING MR AND MRS AMERICA, AND ALL THE SHIPS AT SEA. NEWS FLASH!

    Buried deep in the basement, in room 641A of the SBC Building at 611 Folsom Street, San Francisco, CA is the specially constructed inner workings of the AT&Ts spying apparatus for the NSA. At this location every e-mail is intercepted, and read. Including this one.

    Someone out there go to that location and try to get in the building, if succesful, take an elevator to the basement and see how far you get.


  52. unbelievable Says:

    but there is more satisfaction in helping a person walk that growing DNA on agar!
    Comment by trueblue — May 23, 2006 @ 10:23 am

    I couldn’t argue that. But still, what you guys did will help those who help others.

    What we now know because of that project is so valuable. Well, to those of us who ‘believe in’ Science :)

    When do you graduate?


  53. trueblue Says:

    Unbelievable,
    1995. Went back to school. (Didn’t go to college after HS)
    Now I’m 40, and back in school again!! (The PT thing.)


  54. unbelievable Says:

    Now I’m 40, and back in school again!! (The PT thing.)
    Comment by trueblue — May 23, 2006 @ 10:33 am

    Nothing wrong with that! :)


  55. squegeeboo Says:

    Senate supports troops-on-border plan
    “No tour of duty could last longer than 21 days and troops would be excluded from “search, seizure, arrest or similar activity.” They would support the Border Patrol, which has primary responsibility for intercepting illegal immigrants.”

    Can’t say that I disaprove, but can’t say that I approve, I’ll give it a couple months of results to see if this is a standard F up or not.


  56. Willy Says:

    How far this country has fallen under the Bush regime. For Amnesty International to include the U.S. as undermining human rights along with China, Russia and others. Heckuva job, Bushco!


  57. unbelievable Says:

    Can’t say that I disaprove, but can’t say that I approve, I’ll give it a couple months of results to see if this is a standard F up or not.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 10:37 am

    Did they leave all references to Eastern Germany out of your history classes?


  58. squegeeboo Says:

    “Did they leave all references to Eastern Germany out of your history classes?”
    East Germany kept people in, this is to keep people out.


  59. Jules Says:

    “No tour of duty could last longer than 21 days and troops would be excluded from “search, seizure, arrest or similar activity.” They would support the Border Patrol, which has primary responsibility for intercepting illegal immigrants.”

    First, wouldn’t this cost a lot of money to rotate them every three weeks? Second, what the hell does support mean? Are they going to fetch coffee or pick up their dry cleaning?


  60. trueblue Says:

    East Germany kept people in, this is to keep people out.
    Comment by squegeeboo

    see, Unbelievable, this is why I just pass right over him. Sheesh!


  61. bobcat_grad Says:

    I’m all for better border security, but I think trying to impose laws on the people already here is stupid. Yes, they came into the country illegaly. But put yourself in their situation. What’s more important? Legal immigration or making money for your family?

    We’re trying to punish the illegal immigrants for the fact that we as a country have been extrememly weak on enforcing border security up to this point. Shame on us, we’re going to punish you.


  62. squegeeboo Says:

    “see, Unbelievable, this is why I just pass right over him. Sheesh!”
    Because you have no actual response once I stop doing humor?

    From wikipedia, search for GDR border system (TP blocked my link again, sorry I can’t provide one)
    “Between 1949 and 1961 approximately 2.5 million people crossed from the GDR to the FRG via the still open border with West Berlin.[1] … Approximately 200,000 people crossed in the other direction. From 1961 the GDR border was strengthened further to prevent mass migration to the west, and the westward movement slowed to a trickle.”

    For an East Germany reference to work, it would have to be Mexico stopping people at the border, not the US.


  63. unbelievable Says:

    East Germany kept people in, this is to keep people out.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 10:50 am

    Oh, but you are misisng the part where the Soviet Union told the people that their wall was also to keep people out!

    Really - the KGB told the East Germans that the wall was for their protection from the corrupt West (meaning us mostly).


  64. unbelievable Says:

    see, Unbelievable, this is why I just pass right over him. Sheesh!
    Comment by trueblue — May 23, 2006 @ 10:55 am

    Guess I just see him as an opportunity for education :).


  65. unbelievable Says:

    For an East Germany reference to work, it would have to be Mexico stopping people at the border, not the US.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 11:03 am

    Nope. You’re not considering the spin… We build the wall to keep people out, just as the Soviet Union claimed to be doing in August 4, 1961 - when the wall first went up along the East German borders with the rest of Germany.


  66. squegeeboo Says:

    “Oh, but you are misisng the part where the Soviet Union told the people that their wall was also to keep people out!”

    So are you arguing that there is actually mass migration out of the US into Mexico, and the gov’t is lying about the volume of illegals that are estimated to cross the border every year so they have an excuse to stop the migration out of America?


  67. unbelievable Says:

    So are you arguing that there is actually mass migration out of the US into Mexico, and the gov’t is lying about the volume of illegals that are estimated to cross the border every year so they have an excuse to stop the migration out of America?
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 11:12 am

    No… Did you READ what I typed? Or do you not understand that the Soviets built the wall telling the East Germans that it was to keep the corrupt West out of their country. Facts are as irrelevent with the Soviet dictators as they are with teh American ones. Get it?

    How do you know we have ‘millions’ of illegals by the way?


  68. Not Impressed Says:

    Guess I just see him as an opportunity for education :).
    Comment by unbelievable — May 23, 2006 @ 11:07 am

    Uhh…I bet those kids in your “classroom” would benefit from that kind of attention.
    I seem to recall Judd asking the posters here to refrain from using this forum as “instant messaging”. Do you?


  69. squegeeboo Says:

    “How do you know we have ‘millions’ of illegals by the way?”
    Googling for estimates. Seems to roughly be 200,000-300,000 a year for an average.

    “Facts are as irrelevent with the Soviet dictators as they are with teh American ones. Get it?”
    So the soviets lied, and Bush has lied, so dealing with our border isn’t worth it, we should just let it stay porous because the soviets also had a border wall?


  70. also much smarter than my father Says:

    See how smart I am in my make believe world?


  71. unbelievable Says:

    Uhh…I bet those kids in your “classroom” would benefit from that kind of attention.

    Nope. It’s the last week of school and the three or four in each period who are still here and not failing and required to take the final are in the library studying. The rest are pretending to watch a video. Did you not go to high school?

    I seem to recall Judd asking the posters here to refrain from using this forum as “instant messaging”. Do you?
    Comment by Not Impressed — May 23, 2006 @ 11:22 am

    Think Fast is an open forum - and we’re discussing relevent issues.

    So, is criticism all you have? Because as I recall, Judd frowns upon that moreso.


  72. also much smarter than my father Says:

    # 69 N.I.

    Now don’t start on her,she’s special;really.


  73. unbelievable Says:

    Googling for estimates. Seems to roughly be 200,000-300,000 a year for an average.

    Again - how do you know? You have to trust the sources. How do you know they are correct? I mean, these people are illegal… not exactly easy to count them.

    we should just let it stay porous because the soviets also had a border wall?
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 11:25 am

    I was initially responding to the comment you posted about putting armed militia on the border. Why are you conservatives always so absolutist? We were dealing with arming the border with troops. Remember?


  74. Jack Says:

    The great sucking sound of our retirement monies going down the drain as corrupt people in leadership positions use corporations to steal and ruin the trust and confidence people have in the markets.

    This is your new retirement folks. Good luck.

    Seven National Century Execs Indicted

    Executives at the failed health-care finance company ”bilked investors by building a financial house of cards with deception, sleight-of-hand financing, and accounting misdeeds,” according to the prosecutor.

    Seven former executives of National Century Financial Enterprises have been indicted for their role in a nearly $3 billion fraud at the failed health-care finance company.

    The bankruptcy of National Century — which securitized medical accounts receivable that it had purchased from medical providers — also forced 275 health-care providers to file for bankruptcy protection, according to a Securities and Exchange Commission civil complaint filed last December against four of the executives.


  75. unbelievable Says:

    Denny,

    Why do you keep changing your name? You try to hold me to a higher standard because you’re one of those obnoxious Christians who thinks he has some ‘god given’ duty to be nasty and vitriolic to non-believers - and yet you are throughly incapable of living up to your own holier-than-thou standards.

    Really. Is this petty crap all you have? I thought so.


  76. Not Impressed Says:

    So, is criticism all you have? Because as I recall, Judd frowns upon that moreso.
    Comment by unbelievable — May 23, 2006 @ 11:31 am

    Then, you’re still here because…?


  77. squegeeboo Says:

    “Again - how do you know? You have to trust the sources. How do you know they are correct? I mean, these people are illegal… not exactly easy to count them.”
    How do you know there are no stockpiles of WMD in Iraq, have we checked every inch of desert, every basement? How does most of the left know Rove is guilty? He hasn’t even been indicted yet. Etc, etc.
    You have to work with the information provided, not perfect information. Should we ignore the border issue, until we manage to set up enough surveillance to get a completely accurate estimate?

    “We were dealing with arming the border with troops. Remember?”
    In a support role only, excluded from “search, seizure, arrest or similar activity.” Why is it such a no-no, if they’re only in a support role?

    “Why are you conservatives always so absolutist? ”
    It’s how we see the world for the most part.


  78. also much smarter than my father Says:

    See how smart I am.I create my own reality.


  79. DieNowForPeace Says:

    Squeege,
    I’m also willing to sign you up in the Nat. Guard so you can back up your beliefs with some ACTION. Then maybe we’ll lighten up on your piss-poor attitude.
    Us ultra-NON-paranoid southerners actually like Mexicans. Illegal or otherwise.
    It’s dumb-ass conservative, pick-up truck driving Bushcovites who spend more money on a bass boat than their childrens education that I wish we could deport. But in America, you have the freedom to be as full of shit as you like.


  80. unbelievable Says:

    How do you know there are no stockpiles of WMD in Iraq,

    Aside from the fact that Bush would have been posting tem all over the place?

    We don’t. But that doesn’t mean anything. They didn’t attack us so we had no right to attack them.

    You have to work with the information provided, not perfect information. Should we ignore the border issue, until we manage to set up enough surveillance to get a completely accurate estimate?

    Again - i never said that. I’m just pointing out that you don’t see arming the border as a bad thing because you think there’s cause. I doubt your cause because it could be used to justify someting far worse.

    In a support role only, excluded from “search, seizure, arrest or similar activity.” Why is it such a no-no, if they’re only in a support role?

    Seriously? A support role. When has that happened with the United States military?

    It’s how we see the world for the most part.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 11:46 am

    Yet so very few things are black or white. Most stuff is a shade of grey.


  81. also much smarter than my father Says:

    My grey matter is bulging through my skull.
    Don’t hate me because I’m smart.
    And I’m not ignoring my ‘’students”.


  82. unbelievable Says:

    Denny,

    What do you propose on a day before finals exams? And then explain how you know so much better than all the actual teachers who told me that this would be an impossible week to teach anything (which is why they all play movies the last three weeks after the EOCTs). You do realize that the kids aren’t here by choice - but because they are required by law. Most of them exempt finals and are only here to avoid unexcused absences which prevent them from driving. Doesn’t exactly make for an eager or receptive audience. And given the choice between talking to hear myself talk, or accepting the reality, unlike you - I don’t need to hear myself talk.

    Unless you have anyting to contribute to the conversation, as I have told you - I’m not interested. Get a life and quit obessing with me. It’s pathetic really the way you trail after me like this.


  83. squegeeboo Says:

    “Yet so very few things are black or white. Most stuff is a shade of grey.”
    Only if you choose to view them that way.

    “I’m just pointing out that you don’t see arming the border as a bad thing because you think there’s cause.”
    Yup

    “I doubt your cause because it could be used to justify someting far worse.”
    It could be, but I don’t think it’s a risk worth taking. Like I said, I’ll give it a few months, and then after its been in effect for a while, I’ll assess it’s worth.


  84. DieNowForPeace Says:

    The U.S. KNEW of WMD’s in Iraq because WE sold them to Saddam. After the invasion, I’m sure the heads of the military were a little too concerned with their dissapearance than they cared to let on (how embaracing, “where’d they go?”) Of course, Bush and Co. can’t come right out and remind us why he KNEW they had WMD(”but, we sold em to them, now where they hell’d they go?). Remember how long we teased them with an impending attack? Plenty of time to sell them to Syria before we arrived.
    Ever since the American government helped put Saddam in power, we’ve been trying to enter their economy (that’s a polite way of putting it). So, years of Saddam not playing ball with U.S. corporations, we decide we’ve had enough, and since we put him there, we can take him out.
    There’s NOTHING, NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE linking Iraq to 9/11.
    The entire occupation was a political move, let the tail wag the dog, reward the defense contractors and energy lobbyists who’ve been asking for more control over oil production.
    Notice, that wherever in the world Exxon wants to go, our military will follow.


  85. squegeeboo Says:

    “It could be, but I don’t think it’s a risk worth taking.”
    oops, change that to I do think it’s a risk worth taking.


  86. Tundra Says:

    80,

    OK, just so I understand your point here.
    Us ultra-NON-paranoid southerners actually like Mexicans. Illegal or otherwise.

    If someone is Mexican they should just be able to come over without any checks or balances?

    Does this apply for all nationalities or just Mexicans?

    Why do we even have border patrol then, seems we could save loads of cash if we just opened up the borders?

    How do you advocate turning a blind eye to crime or is it just “certain” laws you can let slide?


  87. also much smarter than my father Says:

    I’t funny,and smart,how I can blog any day,any month,any hour,and my ‘’student’s” still get a full education.I impress myself.I’m that good.


  88. Jules Says:

    Unbelieveable:

    Yesterday my daughter watched Finding Nemo, Forest Gump and I cannot remember waht she watched in physics. Suffice it to say it had nothing to do with Physics.

    Today she gets to watch the remainder of Gone with the Wind and she did not know what movie she would be watching in Pre-Calc, she just knew there would be one.

    So….for those who do not teach, nor have kids in high school, know that this is a reality!!!


  89. DieNowForPeace Says:

    #88 you must be teaching in a public school.
    Er, you might want to check your grammer/punctuation.
    Your dad must not have been very smart AT ALL, seeing how much smarter you are than him.


  90. unbelievable Says:

    Only if you choose to view them that way.

    Not so. You can’t view a door as open if it is only partly opened - or you’ll hurt yourself :)

    Yup

    And I’m pointing out that your cause is suspect.

    It could be, but I don’t think it’s a risk worth taking. Like I said, I’ll give it a few months, and then after its been in effect for a while, I’ll assess it’s worth.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 12:15 pm

    I forgot how that fear of the ‘what ifs’ can cause you to give up all sorts of freedoms and rights. Well, unfortunately, there are those who won’t let you give up ours too over a load of nonsense.


  91. squegeeboo Says:

    “can cause you to give up all sorts of freedoms and rights.”
    What freedoms/rights am I giving up? I’ll no longer have the freedom/rights to cross illegally into Mexico if I choose to? Isn’t that illegal already, just not enforced?


  92. unbelievable Says:

    So….for those who do not teach, nor have kids in high school, know that this is a reality!!!
    Comment by Jules — May 23, 2006 @ 12:26 pm

    Thanks Jules. Denny is just being ugly because he has a problem with Atheists.


  93. Tundra Says:

    I don’t know watching movies like that in school sounds like a waste of tax revenue. We complain that our kids are having problems with the tests, not learning enough etc but allowing them to watch movies like Finding Nemo and Forest Gump seems wrong. Seems they could be walking the highways picking up trash or something constructive.


  94. unbelievable Says:

    What freedoms/rights am I giving up? I’ll no longer have the freedom/rights to cross illegally into Mexico if I choose to? Isn’t that illegal already, just not enforced?
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 12:31 pm

    Don’t be so myopic…

    I realize that the consideration for long term doesn’t actually kick in until you yourself have experienced it - but think beyond the immediate. It’s imperative if we don’t want to become more enslaved than we already are.


  95. unbelievable Says:

    Seems they could be walking the highways picking up trash or something constructive.
    Comment by Tundra — May 23, 2006 @ 12:34 pm

    Then tell Bush to get rid of the NCLB standardized testing at the beginning of May, because it kills the rest of the school year - as that is what the kids are working toward all year.

    Besides - as little money as the school system gets - in comarision to big business - you get your tax dollars worth by October. Consider November through May as the bonus months.

    Mine are watching science related movies at least.


  96. marblex Says:

    expect to see a lot of this in the future. The rails are how the uncooperative American population will be carried to their internment and death in the concentration camps that Haliburton HAS built and continues to build in this country.

    GOOGLE IT


  97. squegeeboo Says:

    “but think beyond the immediate.”

    All thats happened since the last amnesity program is ‘thinking’. At some point you need to actualy act. If people had acted 15 years ago with proper increases in border security funding and infrastructure, we wouldn’t have the estimated 10-20 million illegals since the last amnesty, and wouldn’t need to consider something as radical as using the Army now.


  98. Tundra Says:

    96,

    I’m sorry but there is no way possible to justify my kids watching forest gump and finding nemo in school. Especially when I just voted in a nice big tax increase. They can do that at home.

    One of the complaints I hear is “Why are we teaching the kids for a test”, “Standardized tests are not the answer” well here is a perfect opportunity to teach them something else. Because the stated objective of the test is over doesn’t mean they can’t learn anything else.

    I often get challenged because I don’t want federal tax increases, well currently it’s used to show cartoons about Australian fish to high school students. When my money starts getting used properly I may agree that the government needs more.


  99. Jules Says:

    Tundra - I agree - but unbelievable is right. The students in Texas take the TAKS english in February then the math, science and social studies during the third week of April. They get the results usually the second week of May. They are so burned out and tired by that point they don’t want to do anything else. And…there is still one and a-half weeks before finals. There must be another way!!!


  100. also much smarter than my father Says:

    # 90 D.N.F.P.

    Er,let me see what my story is today,oh,yes,public school.
    I’m an architect too;with 6 yrs.education and 14 yrs.exp.
    I’m so smart,I get to sit at home and blog all day.


  101. Jules Says:

    OMG - stupider than my dad is mighty hernodite!


  102. Tundra Says:

    Unbelievable,

    Besides - as little money as the school system gets - in comarision to big business -
    You know me well enough to know that I don’t advocate giving business a penny either though. Because my money is being wasted there doesn’t mean I won’t complain about it being wasted in other places.


  103. unbelievable Says:

    If people had acted 15 years ago with proper increases in border security funding and infrastructure, we wouldn’t have the estimated 10-20 million illegals since the last amnesty, and wouldn’t need to consider something as radical as using the Army now.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 12:46 pm

    Don’t you mean more like 25 years ago? This was a problem under Reagan who just gave Amnesty - thereby sending a message that is was okay to break the law.

    I don’t think the situation requires radical anything. You’re turning it into something far more dramatic than it actually is. Relax. You’re working on your first stroke at 45 if you don’t.


  104. unbelievable Says:

    Er, you might want to check your grammer/punctuation.
    Comment by DieNowForPeace — May 23, 2006 @ 12:27 pm

    Don’t confuse me with Denny. He’s trying to be annoying because harrassing Atheists makes him think he’s going to Heaven. Only he’s just a fungus and no one takes those seriously anyway - so at best he’s going to get himself banned from this site for pretending to be someone else (a violation of site policy).


  105. unbelievable Says:

    here is a perfect opportunity to teach them something else. Because the stated objective of the test is over doesn’t mean they can’t learn anything else.

    Tundra - think back. Did you want to be at school? Most of them don’t - especially with the light at the end of the tunnel.

    You can’t make them learn anything they don’t want to learn. This was my first year in the system. Next year, I won’t exempt anyone from finals - or if required bythe school to do so - I will make their final project due on the day their final is due to keep them productive.

    I often get challenged because I don’t want federal tax increases, well currently it’s used to show cartoons about Australian fish to high school students. When my money starts getting used properly I may agree that the government needs more.
    Comment by Tundra — May 23, 2006 @ 12:56 pm

    Go teach for a year and then I’ll respect that opinion if you still have it. Because until you’ve been in here and learned how hard it is - you can’t criticize kids watching a couple movies at the end of the school year. If anything - they’ve worked hard and earned it. Especiallythe teachers.


  106. unbelievable Says:

    Because my money is being wasted there doesn’t mean I won’t complain about it being wasted in other places.
    Comment by Tundra — May 23, 2006 @ 1:09 pm

    Now you know better than that… The tax breaks the government gives Big Business - that is your money.


  107. Tundra Says:

    Go teach for a year and then I’ll respect that opinion if you still have it. Because until you’ve been in here and learned how hard it is

    I’ve instructed adults that had the cost of the courses paid by their employers. while I could have most likely stood up there and did charades, I felt the company deserved to get what they paid for. Using that logic of go teach for a year doesn’t work though. Otherwise I can say your opinions on military issues are null and void. You know what you expect from them and I know what I expect from my childrens teachers.

    you can’t criticize kids watching a couple movies at the end of the school year
    Yes I can, they have 3 months coming up that they can “rest” and “relax” and unburn out.

    Especiallythe teachers
    Hold on here. I work hard and my boss doesn’t allow me to spend a few days just sitting at my desk watching movies.

    The tax breaks the government gives Big Business - that is your money.
    I know and I am pissed about it as well, I’m just saying because of that it doesn’t justify kids watching cartoons for education.


  108. unbelievable Says:

    Using that logic of go teach for a year doesn’t work though.

    It’s about experience. I never speak about the military as if I have military experience. I don’t critique your on the job decisions. Not the same. Not even close.

    Yes I can, they have 3 months coming up that they can “rest” and “relax” and unburn out.

    Around here is it 2 months - and most of them at this age work.

    Hold on here. I work hard and my boss doesn’t allow me to spend a few days just sitting at my desk watching movies.

    I’m not watching movies. I’m grading projects in between posting here. And I’ll still be working after school is officially out. Working - much like you. But for much less pay.

    I’m just saying because of that it doesn’t justify kids watching cartoons for education.
    Comment by Tundra — May 23, 2006 @ 1:33 pm

    I’m not showing cartoons. Before this week everything was from the library - National Geographic stuff mostly. Now - it’s movies like ‘10,000 Leagues Under the Sea’ and ‘The Time Machine’.


  109. Jules Says:

    Tundra - I totally agree with you. That is why we always scheduled our 6 weeks test for the Friday prior to finals week. However, finals week is used to prepare those students who are not able to exempt the final exam. Then what do you do with the ones who can?

    I wish they would not allow students to exempt final exams then they would work up until the end. However, they use this as a “carrot” to get the kids to stay out of trouble.


  110. squegeeboo Says:

    “I wish they would not allow students to exempt final exams then they would work up until the end. However, they use this as a “carrot” to get the kids to stay out of trouble.”

    Hold on, I only got exempted if I had above a certain grade, generally 90% or 95%, your school does it based off of how well they behave?


  111. squegeeboo Says:

    “Working - much like you. But for much less pay.”
    You guys don’t get to pull the poor pay card, you all admit you choose to be teachers over other higher paying jobs.

    Ok, so it’s not cartoons, but its “movies like ‘10,000 Leagues Under the Sea’ and ‘The Time Machine’.” Sounds like a semantics argument based off of the exact form of tax-payer funded entertainment.


  112. unbelievable Says:

    However, they use this as a “carrot” to get the kids to stay out of trouble.
    Comment by Jules — May 23, 2006 @ 1:47 pm

    Which just leads us right back to the parents not teaching their children discipline and then expecting us to do it on top of everything else.

    Tundra - these kids expect rewards for good behavior. It’s how they were raised. And, well, we are human - sometimes you take the path of least resistence. Not always. But sometimes when you know yo are fighting a losing battle.

    As I said - next year will be different in my classroom. But at the same time - something I had to learn - they are still kids who live at home and don’t take much seriously. You really have to respect that to get anything out of most of them sometimes. It’s the hardest part in dealing with other people - finding a compromise. Without it - I’ve seen other teachers drive themselves crazy - always yelling and fighting with the students. That’s no existence.


  113. Jules Says:

    Hold on, I only got exempted if I had above a certain grade, generally 90% or 95%, your school does it based off of how well they behave?

    If they have a 70 or above for the trimester they can exempt. One absence for a C 2 abscences and you need a B, and 3 abscences you need an A. HOWEVER, if you passed all of your TAKS exams you can receive year end exemptions for each one you passed (english, social studies, math and science - to be used in those classes). AND…you cannot be on loss of credit for that class and you must be passing. A student receives loss of credit if they do not have more than 6 unexcused abscences in a trimester. An unexcused abscence means you don’t have a note form your parents.

    CRAZY isn’t it?


  114. unbelievable Says:

    your school does it based off of how well they behave?
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 1:56 pm

    Was the same in my day. Now, here - it’s passing and less than 4 unexcused absences. Crazy, huh?


  115. unbelievable Says:

    Ok, so it’s not cartoons, but its “movies like ‘10,000 Leagues Under the Sea’ and ‘The Time Machine’.” Sounds like a semantics argument based off of the exact form of tax-payer funded entertainment.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 2:01 pm

    Nonsense - it’s classic literature with a science basis. There’s plenty of stuff to learn from those movies - it’s not just entertainment.

    Besides - you really shouldn’t be throwing stones from the porch of your shiny glass house…


  116. squegeeboo Says:

    Jules

    Wait, hold on, your f’ing kidding me, a C or a passing grade on the state exams gets them exempt from finals? Also, Texas is only trimester not 4 quarters of school?


  117. Jules Says:

    Wait, hold on, your f’ing kidding me, a C or a passing grade on the state exams gets them exempt from finals? Also, Texas is only trimester not 4 quarters of school?

    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 2:08 pm

    It gets better. If you are in an AP class (advanced placement) all you need to do to exempt at year end is TAKE the AP exam. You don;t even have to pass it. You could scribble your anme all over it. Schools are rated by how many students TAKE the Ap exams as well as pass.

    We have three 18 week grading periods at my high school. Not all of them are like this. My daughters school has two semesters and A and B days. That means you have eight classes each semester, four per day. We have five periods a day and see our kids every day.


  118. squegeeboo Says:

    “Nonsense - it’s classic literature with a science basis.”

    Ehhh, that’s stretching it, Time Machine, has basic social science and evolution with a few hints of genetic tinkering(the book, the movie’s even worse), 20,000 Leagues, I haven’t seen/read in a while, so I might be wrong, but I don’t remember much science besides the Sub itself, and some very basic marine bio.
    They make for good discussions in a philosophy/history/literature classes, but for a science class not so much, except to maybe, maybe, peak interest in a new section of study your going to be starting that is related to the material.

    “Besides - you really shouldn’t be throwing stones from the porch of your shiny glass house…”
    It’s never stopped me before.

    “We have three 18 week grading periods at my high school. Not all of them are like this. My daughters school has two semesters and A and B days.”
    We had 4 ten week grading periods, 8 classes a grading period.


  119. Jules Says:

    Even though the last week of school for me was not a “teaching” time with the exception of the final review (it is actually 4 days because for some reason school ends on a Thursday) I could not show movies. In my district you can only show G rated movies unless you receive written approval from the parents. I always told my kids to bring reading material or I would put them to work.


  120. squegeeboo Says:

    Heres one to piss of Tundra
    In my school district, the school year ended right before the Regents, so that worked out, but for the AP courses there was about a month after the exams before school ended, so the Physics and Calc teachers got together, and took us to a theme park in the area for the day, and we had to do 6 out of 8 questions that had to do with finding out the force of the roller coster at the highest point, the maximum velocity of the giant circular swing ride, etc. Nothing like 40 bucks a kid, plus transportation, etc. to go to a themepark.


  121. Tundra Says:

    121,

    Tax money well spent I would say. Right up there with congressmen using public funds to do their drycleaning, pay for trips to DisneyLand for the family.


  122. unbelievable Says:

    Ehhh, that’s stretching it,

    Not it’s not. You rather I show cartoons?

    It’s never stopped me before.

    And yet you continuously fail to see the hypocrisy in it?

    We had 4 ten week grading periods, 8 classes a grading period.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 2:25 pm

    I can only show movies approved by the Board. In high school - whenever a ’shit’ didn’t get bleeped out - the entire class acts like it’s teh funniest thing they’ve ever heard…


  123. Tundra Says:

    121,

    Besides it’s not like that gas money, educators expenses, bus driver fees, paper/toner for permission slips etc could have been used to help disadvantaged students.


  124. Jules Says:

    Things have changed so much since I was in school. The first time a student put his head down on a desk and went to sleep I almost had a heart attack. I woke him up, of coure, but you would not believe the number of times I have had to wake kids up. I ahve a brass gavel my sister gave me when I passed th NY bar. I bang that on my podium. Works every time!!!

    I would never have thought to go to sleep in a class. My first year I was always asking my daughter if something they were doing was normal, it usually was. I had thought it was just me.


  125. squegeeboo Says:

    “Not it’s not. You rather I show cartoons?”
    There was this really good movie that came out a year or two ago with a bunch of physcists/doctors/etc. talking about life, you could try to get permission for that, don’t remeber the title, but it had all sorts of notations in it. Or just other approved educational movies.

    “And yet you continuously fail to see the hypocrisy in it?”
    Oh, I see it, but if you wait for the one with out sin to throw the first stone, it’ll never be tossed.

    “I woke him up, of coure, but you would not believe the number of times I have had to wake kids up.”
    I had a teacher who would just teach quitely if he noticed someone was asleep, and see if he could get him to sleep thru into the next period, you could try that(It’s even better when it’s the end of the school day, then they have to figure out how to get home after missing the bus) It’s good for entertainment at least.


  126. Zookeeper Says:

    Squeegy, I thought you were going to be concenstrating on spelling today. Given the direction of this thread, really…


  127. Jules Says:

    Spngebob - My students used to love when someone would fall asleep, especially if I would bang my gavel on the sleeping students desk.

    It is also fun when I am teaching something and someone has slept though it or is talking or writing a note (I can be cruel - especially when it is a complicated subject matter). I make them come to tutorials. I refuse to reteach something during classtime to someone who is not paying attention.


  128. Tundra Says:

    I woke him up, of coure

    Why? someone needs to flip burgers and stock gas station shelves.


  129. unbelievable Says:

    I had thought it was just me.
    Comment by Jules — May 23, 2006 @ 2:50 pm

    I guess that’s why the first year is the hardest? In the beginning I was more strict about certain things because all I had to go on really, was 20-something years ago. I’ve lightened up on some things that aren’t that critical. But I still wake them up too.


  130. unbelievable Says:

    Or just other approved educational movies.

    Again, Mr. Absolutist - I showed those kind already. I needed something in this case that would maintain the peace at the end of the year. This works.

    Oh, I see it, but if you wait for the one with out sin to throw the first stone, it’ll never be tossed.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 2:55 pm

    Oh like rules ever stop those sort of people from flinging them at everyone else doing the same stuff they do… kinda like you. :)


  131. Tundra Says:

    But I still wake them up too

    Softee :)


  132. purvis ames Says:

    Mr. Taheri is an columnist for the New York Post who claims to be the voice of Iran, somewhat like the disgusting criminal Chalabi in Iraq. Mr. Taheri is also an employee of Benador, a lobbying group for the Israeli government. Even today in the Post Taheri sticks by his story which has already been thoroughly debunked as a concoction of Mossad agent Conrad Black in collusion with the Jerusalem Post. Are you sick and tired of U.S. foreign policy being dictated out of Tel Aviv?


  133. unbelievable Says:

    I refuse to reteach something during classtime to someone who is not paying attention.
    Comment by Jules — May 23, 2006 @ 3:02 pm

    That one has gotten me a few parent complaints. Wouldn’t be as big of a deal if the Administration here had spines. I’m so happy to be leaving this District.


  134. unbelievable Says:

    Softee :)
    Comment by Tundra — May 23, 2006 @ 3:17 pm

    The reason 99% of them go to sleep is because they didn’t go to bed at a reasonable hour because they were talking on the phone or running around unsupervised - or doing other things that don’t warrant my sympathy.

    If they are sick or have a valid reason - I’m as maternal as I can muster - but otherwise, I get yelled at for not giving them twenty chances. And I don’t like to get yelled at when I’m doing my job. Ya know :)


  135. squegeeboo Says:

    “I needed something in this case that would maintain the peace at the end of the year.”

    Thats why they should bring back the ruler. Quick swipe across the knuckles, behaviour fixed, or just have a test on the last possible day of class, make it like 30% of their grade for the quarter.


  136. Tundra Says:

    “I needed something in this case that would maintain the peace at the end of the year.”

    Of course, I’m sure the parents say the same thing about them watching TV at home vs doing their homework :)

    “Little Johnny will not do his homework and if I set him in front of the TV I can maintain the peace”.


  137. Jules Says:

    Wouldn’t be as big of a deal if the Administration here had spines. I’m so happy to be leaving this District.

    The school where I taught, and am returning to is GREAT. The administration backs its teachers. I have had parents call or come in to complain, but you see, the lawyer in me keeps great records, so it is difficult for the parent to challenge me.


  138. unbelievable Says:

    Quick swipe across the knuckles, behaviour fixed, or just have a test on the last possible day of class, make it like 30% of their grade for the quarter.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 23, 2006 @ 3:46 pm

    Are you nuts? Hitting them? Nope. Not me. I don’t think it works the way itis intended to work. It just teaches them that using violence is a means for solving conflict.

    But like I said - my first year. I learned to make the final project due at the end. And not sweat a day or two fo goofing off - when really, in the grand scheme of things, a couple days of movies isn’t the end of the world.


  139. unbelievable Says:

    “Little Johnny will not do his homework and if I set him in front of the TV I can maintain the peace”.
    Comment by Tundra — May 23, 2006 @ 3:53 pm

    Yep. And as soon as teh parents all stop doing that - I won’t have to either. :)


  140. unbelievable Says:

    so it is difficult for the parent to challenge me.
    Comment by Jules — May 23, 2006 @ 3:56 pm

    I keep hearing how great it is to have an administration like that. I am expecting it from my new school.

    Smart of you to keep good records. It’s hard to dispute that - especially when the kid left out all those necessary details.

    I had one kid who decided to do one of his Science News Projects on UFOs. Silly me didn’t think thatone all the way through before agreeing to it because, well, I have a grasp on reality. He’s one of those who is a class clown anyway, so when he started giving his presentation on little green men - as if they were scientific fact - the class laughed at him. I just shook my head and asked him if he was serious. He swore that he was, but you can only belive about5% of the stuff he ever says anyway. Initially I gave him an 85 because he met the project requirements and then some.

    The next day I called him away from clas to ask him one-on-one if he was serious. He told me that he was - that he knew it had to be true because he’d gotten it off the internet on “,org” sites - which means that the information is true. I assured him that that was not the case, but because he had done what was asked, I moved his grade up to a 92.

    A few weeks later, one of the more tolarable VPs comes into my room and tells me that his mother wants a conference. She said that I laughed at her son and insulted him in front of the class..A lot of other nonsense to boot. After I gave him my recount - which made sense, he called the mother back to schedule a conference. She never showed up teh first time - called to cancel and then didn’t show up the second time at all with no phone call.

    I think a strong Administration wouldn’t have wasted the time to schedule a conference twice over something like that. But, it’s habitual with them.


  141. squegeeboo Says:

    Double Amputee Wouldn’t Help Dying Man
    “Told that it had been suggested in New Zealand that Inglis’ party should have stopped their ascent and rescued the man, Inglis replied: “Absolutely, that’s a very fair comment.”



  142. Pat Tap Says:

    Richard Viguerie is another conservative SMMTB (Sun Myung Moon Tittie Baby). Without their savior, Moon, the right doesn’t control our government. They must be proud.

    from Sara Diamond - “Spiritual Warfare the Politics of the Religious Right”

    In 1986, Viguerie was on the brink of bankruptcy when the Unification Church again came to his aid financially. In late 1985, Viguerie had been forced to sell ‘Conservative Digest.’ In January 1986, eight of his creditors filed suit for a total of $2.3 million owed to them. At the same time, Viguerie had to put his $9 million office building in Fairfax, Virginia up for sale.

    Just as he was about to go under in early 1986, Viguerie won a lucrative account, the distribution of the Unification Church-owned ‘Insight’ magazine. Then in October 1987, U.S. Property Development Corporation controlled by Rev. Moon’s right-hand man, Col. Bo Hi Pak, paid $10.06 million for Viguerie’s office building. Also in 1987, Viguerie took on the direct mail account of the Moonie-dominated American Freedom Coalition.


  143. Pat Tap Says:

    More on Viguerie the “compassionate” conservative SMMTB…

    The Korean Culture and Freedom Foundation(MOON FRONT) had been barred from soliciting contributions in New York after 1976. The State Social Welfare Board had discovered that less than 7 percent of the funds collected by KCFF for the Children’s Relief Fund could have been used for that purpose. The public was told that money was needed urgently to save the lives of 350,000 children who were facing “terminal forms of malnutrition” in Southeast Asia. Contributions were to be used to buy emergen