Comments on: Bartlett Falsely Claims Bush Supports Full Investigation of ‘Any Allegation of Public Corruption’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:21:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-578019 Wayne A. Schneider Sat, 27 May 2006 18:48:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-578019 Dan Bartlett is a liar. He once tried to claim that the Bush Administration was a very open one with no secrets. Either he was completely ignorant of the truth, or he was lying. (Thank you, John Dean, for that tidbit.) I can understand why Fox News Channel might want to have someone of his ilk on their shows, but why would any other news organizations concerned about its reputation for accuracy and reliability want to even bother talking to this man? He frequently tells lies (at least, every time that I have seen him talking on TV, I've heard him assert at least one thing that was just plain false), so you can't be thinking that you'll get an accurate account of things from him. His job is to go out to the media and try to make his president look good, even if the facts indicate otherwise. He has no problem whatsoever with telling flat out lies. As a source for accurate information, I wish the media would learn that Dan Bartlett is the wrong man to go to. (And if they are worried about protecting "access" to these people, I ask, "Why?" Why do you want to protect access to people who are going to lie to you? I would think you would want to write them off as a source if you can't believe anything they tell you.) Dan Bartlett is a liar. He once tried to claim that the Bush Administration was a very open one with no secrets. Either he was completely ignorant of the truth, or he was lying. (Thank you, John Dean, for that tidbit.) I can understand why Fox News Channel might want to have someone of his ilk on their shows, but why would any other news organizations concerned about its reputation for accuracy and reliability want to even bother talking to this man? He frequently tells lies (at least, every time that I have seen him talking on TV, I’ve heard him assert at least one thing that was just plain false), so you can’t be thinking that you’ll get an accurate account of things from him. His job is to go out to the media and try to make his president look good, even if the facts indicate otherwise. He has no problem whatsoever with telling flat out lies. As a source for accurate information, I wish the media would learn that Dan Bartlett is the wrong man to go to. (And if they are worried about protecting “access” to these people, I ask, “Why?” Why do you want to protect access to people who are going to lie to you? I would think you would want to write them off as a source if you can’t believe anything they tell you.)

]]> By: KJ Lovell http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-577980 KJ Lovell Sat, 27 May 2006 18:30:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-577980 Isn't bartlett one of the co-conspiritors on the Plame case? I believe he is classified as a non-indicted co-conspiritor. But never forget, bush said "...the Constitution is just a Godda**ed piece of paper" Never forget, gonzoles siad the Constitution is an "outdated document" Lovely people to have spying on you and spiriting you away to torture you at concentration camps. Dumbya is the male equivilent to Kelly Bundy. Isn’t bartlett one of the co-conspiritors on the Plame case? I believe he is classified as a non-indicted co-conspiritor.

But never forget, bush said “…the Constitution is just a Godda**ed piece of paper”
Never forget, gonzoles siad the Constitution is an “outdated document”

Lovely people to have spying on you and spiriting you away to torture you at concentration camps.

Dumbya is the male equivilent to Kelly Bundy.

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-577883 Briseadh na Faire Sat, 27 May 2006 18:06:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-577883 Seixon, speaking of the FBI: <blockquote> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/27/jefferson.fbi/index.html" rel="nofollow">Political dispute over FBI raid nears showdown</a> Sources: Justice officials threaten to resign over House office raid From John King CNN Chief National Correspondent Saturday, May 27, 2006; Posted: 12:50 p.m. EDT (16:50 GMT) WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Two senior administration officials said the showdown over the FBI's raid of Rep. William Jefferson's office last weekend had reached what one called "the tipping point," with threats of high-level resignations. Top Justice Department officials --Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty and FBI Director Robert Mueller --indicated they would resign if forced to give the seized materials back, the officials said.</blockquote> Now, judging from what has been in the media thus far, Jefferson should be investigated for his alleged criminal activity. However, the search of his Congressional Office would likely not have raised such concerns had an independent prosecutor been appointed for the task. As it stands now, we have a Republican controled Executive Branch searching the office of, and seizing records of a Congressman of the opposition party. On the other hand, although several Republican Congressmen have been implicated and even charged with criminal activity, there has been no reported incidences of their Congressional offices being searched by the FBI. When the opposition party ascends to power will your position on the propriety of this Administration's actions remain the same? Will you support a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress doing the same things to Republicans? Will you accept a Democratic majority on the Supreme Court upholding these activities against Republicans? Seixon, speaking of the FBI:

Political dispute over FBI raid nears showdown
Sources: Justice officials threaten to resign over House office raid
From John King
CNN Chief National Correspondent

Saturday, May 27, 2006; Posted: 12:50 p.m. EDT (16:50 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Two senior administration officials said the showdown over the FBI’s raid of Rep. William Jefferson’s office last weekend had reached what one called “the tipping point,” with threats of high-level resignations.

Top Justice Department officials –Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty and FBI Director Robert Mueller –indicated they would resign if forced to give the seized materials back, the officials said.

Now, judging from what has been in the media thus far, Jefferson should be investigated for his alleged criminal activity. However, the search of his Congressional Office would likely not have raised such concerns had an independent prosecutor been appointed for the task.

As it stands now, we have a Republican controled Executive Branch searching the office of, and seizing records of a Congressman of the opposition party.

On the other hand, although several Republican Congressmen have been implicated and even charged with criminal activity, there has been no reported incidences of their Congressional offices being searched by the FBI.

When the opposition party ascends to power will your position on the propriety of this Administration’s actions remain the same? Will you support a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress doing the same things to Republicans? Will you accept a Democratic majority on the Supreme Court upholding these activities against Republicans?

]]> By: Seixon http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-577684 Seixon Sat, 27 May 2006 17:12:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-577684 I suppose that is different than Think Progress and others deciding that the photos are relevant. Oh wait... no it's not! Photos of the president with Abramoff in the picture doesn't prove anything. Documents or other things will. So obviously the photos are just some distraction for people like Think Progress, while the FBI are adults and know how to do their job and find things that are actually relevant to establishing corruption. Talk about the pinnacle of hypocrisy. I suppose that is different than Think Progress and others deciding that the photos are relevant. Oh wait… no it’s not!

Photos of the president with Abramoff in the picture doesn’t prove anything. Documents or other things will. So obviously the photos are just some distraction for people like Think Progress, while the FBI are adults and know how to do their job and find things that are actually relevant to establishing corruption.

Talk about the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

]]> By: Rebelese http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-577286 Rebelese Sat, 27 May 2006 14:14:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-577286 Hayden was approved simply because the WH has all the dirt on all the senate that it needs. Specter voting against with approval from the gray house. Hayden was approved simply because the WH has all the dirt on all the senate that it needs.

Specter voting against with approval from the gray house.

]]> By: Jiggs Kincaid http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-577271 Jiggs Kincaid Sat, 27 May 2006 13:16:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-577271 Viva Zapata and Tex-Mex justice with sour cream on it. Viva Zapata and Tex-Mex justice with sour cream on it.

]]> By: cats are flyfishn http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-577265 cats are flyfishn Sat, 27 May 2006 12:51:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-577265 We will persue all leads as long as they don't involve investigating Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and George W Bush, he, he, he, he. Signed "W". We will persue all leads as long as they don’t involve investigating Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and George W Bush, he, he, he, he.

Signed “W”.

]]> By: Bluestocking http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-577261 Bluestocking Sat, 27 May 2006 12:45:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-577261 "...it’s critically important that...anytime that there’s any allegation of public corruption of a public official or a congressman, that we do everything we can to fully investigate this." **************** Since <em>when?!?</em> Yeah, right -- if you believe that, I happen to know of this great bridge on the East River which just happens to be for sale at a very reasonable price.... Yeah, I'm sure they do everything they can to 'fully investigate it" provided that it's not a Republican... “…it’s critically important that…anytime that there’s any allegation of public corruption of a public official or a congressman, that we do everything we can to fully investigate this.”

****************

Since when?!? Yeah, right — if you believe that, I happen to know of this great bridge on the East River which just happens to be for sale at a very reasonable price….

Yeah, I’m sure they do everything they can to ‘fully investigate it” provided that it’s not a Republican…

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-577127 Jay Randal Sat, 27 May 2006 06:52:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-577127 Post 31 > you could be correct because NSA spied on every member of the Congress, so Hayden had material to blackmail most of the Senators! Strange vote yesterday because it was done fast and then the Senators rushed out of DC like the devil was after them > lol. Post 31 > you could be correct because NSA spied on every member of the Congress, so Hayden had material to blackmail most of the Senators! Strange vote yesterday because it was done fast and then the Senators rushed out of DC like the devil was after them > lol.

]]> By: KJ Lovell http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-577126 KJ Lovell Sat, 27 May 2006 06:47:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-577126 #15 Jay, you know exactly why Hayden got all the votes - Blackmail. It is the same old story, from 1989 to present (before 1989 but never reported). The corrupt "power players" throw sex parties with underage objects of desire and photograph it and video tape it. It exploded in 1989 and got quickly covered up. Why the heck do you think DeLay would go around the floor and talk to the voters and some cry while casting the votes to approve bad legislation. Remember not to long ago....that was the one that the democrats were chanting "shame, shame, shame" over. And #26 - Yes the president does take an oath to uphold the constitution, and when we find that he is not fulfilling that duty, he should be immediately removed from power using whatever means necessary. This little smirking chimp is on record saying : " the Constitution is just a godammed piece of paper." and Alberto-I love torture-Gonzoles is on record as saying that the constitution is an "outdated document" so why are these Nazis still in power? #15 Jay, you know exactly why Hayden got all the votes – Blackmail. It is the same old story, from 1989 to present (before 1989 but never reported). The corrupt “power players” throw sex parties with underage objects of desire and photograph it and video tape it. It exploded in 1989 and got quickly covered up.

Why the heck do you think DeLay would go around the floor and talk to the voters and some cry while casting the votes to approve bad legislation. Remember not to long ago….that was the one that the democrats were chanting “shame, shame, shame” over.

And #26 – Yes the president does take an oath to uphold the constitution, and when we find that he is not fulfilling that duty, he should be immediately removed from power using whatever means necessary. This little smirking chimp is on record saying : ” the Constitution is just a godammed piece of paper.” and Alberto-I love torture-Gonzoles is on record as saying that the constitution is an “outdated document” so why are these Nazis still in power?

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-577100 Jay Randal Sat, 27 May 2006 06:28:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-577100 Post 29 that is why they raided a Dems office to cause a stink so NO Repubs offices will be searched by the FBI! GOP has at least 10 Reps involved in scandals at the moment versus the Dems one with Jefferson! Post 29 that is why they raided a Dems office to cause a stink so NO Repubs offices will be searched by the FBI! GOP has at least 10 Reps involved in scandals at the moment versus the Dems one with Jefferson!

]]> By: This is a real dumb country http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-576983 This is a real dumb country Sat, 27 May 2006 05:35:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-576983 Isn't it just a little stinky with all these corrupt republicans taking money for official acts that the Justice Department raids the office of a democrat? Isn’t it just a little stinky with all these corrupt republicans taking money for official acts that the Justice Department raids the office of a democrat?

]]> By: Miro http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-576925 Miro Sat, 27 May 2006 05:14:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-576925 So I wondered for a moment, "who the heck is he pandering to THIS time..." -- turns out it was Gonzales he was pandering to. So I wondered for a moment, “who the heck is he pandering to THIS time…” — turns out it was Gonzales he was pandering to.

]]> By: Cyra Brown http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-576890 Cyra Brown Sat, 27 May 2006 04:58:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-576890 Bartlett says, "it's critically important that this investigation continue." Oh, yes it is. I do not doubt his sincerity, not one little bit. But he is not interested in truth, justice, or the American way. Hardly. And GWB made sure this story will be a popular topic on Fox News, and psycho radio by freezing the FBI booty from Jefferson's office for 45 days. Not exactly the actions of a supporter of investigations. DETAILS!!! Jefferson needs to go. He needed the help of the FBI to get in trouble, while Republicans can take care of business all by themselves, no set-up required. Bartlett says, “it’s critically important that this investigation continue.” Oh, yes it is. I do not doubt his sincerity, not one little bit. But he is not interested in truth, justice, or the American way. Hardly. And GWB made sure this story will be a popular topic on Fox News, and psycho radio by freezing the FBI booty from Jefferson’s office for 45 days. Not exactly the actions of a supporter of investigations. DETAILS!!! Jefferson needs to go. He needed the help of the FBI to get in trouble, while Republicans can take care of business all by themselves, no set-up required.

]]> By: clb72 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-576791 clb72 Sat, 27 May 2006 04:38:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-576791 "If a monarchist be in office anywhere and it be known to the President, the oath he has taken to support the Constitution imperiously requires the instantaneous dismission of such officer; and I should hold the President criminal if he permitted such to remain. To appoint a monarchist to conduct the affairs of a republic is like appointing an atheist to the priesthood." --Thomas Jefferson: Newspaper letter, 1803. FE 8:237 “If a monarchist be in office anywhere and it be known to the President, the oath he has taken to support the Constitution imperiously requires the instantaneous dismission of such officer; and I should hold the President criminal if he permitted such to remain. To appoint a monarchist to conduct the affairs of a republic is like appointing an atheist to the priesthood.” –Thomas Jefferson: Newspaper letter, 1803. FE 8:237

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-576647 Jay Randal Sat, 27 May 2006 03:23:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-576647 I am beginning to think that all the Senators and many of the Representatives in DC left skidmarks leaving on vacation today to clean up their homes and offices before the FBI searches them! Many of them are certified crooks so cash is probably in most of their freezers > lol. I am beginning to think that all the Senators and many of the Representatives in DC left skidmarks leaving on vacation today to clean up their homes and offices before the FBI searches them! Many of them are certified crooks so cash is probably in most of their freezers > lol.

]]> By: kimmy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-576633 kimmy Sat, 27 May 2006 03:03:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-576633 I hope Bush is pleasured! I hope Bush is pleasured!

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-576631 katy Sat, 27 May 2006 02:58:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-576631 kimmy - i googled the oft heard phrase "i serve at the pleasure of the president" and after 10 or so pages i'm still not sure if it started on The West Wing tv show and has been popular since or if it is an historical phrase... but rummy's remark was probably condensed from that phrase... and it means what it says... kimmy – i googled the oft heard phrase “i serve at the pleasure of the president” and after 10 or so pages i’m still not sure if it started on The West Wing tv show and has been popular since or if it is an historical phrase… but rummy’s remark was probably condensed from that phrase… and it means what it says…

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-576623 katy Sat, 27 May 2006 02:41:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-576623 <em>"...it’s critically important that this investigation continue; that anytime that there’s any allegation of <strong>public corruption of a public official or a congressman</strong>, that we do everything we can to fully investigate this."</em> A very sound principle — one that unfortunately does not apply to President Bush. or rove or cheney or delay or frist or the <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/the-architects-where-are-they-now/" rel="nofollow">iraq war architects</a> or anyone else on the <a href="http://www.thinkprogress.org/leak-scandal" rel="nofollow">"cia leak list"</a> and everyone else i'm sure i've left out... you get the idea... “…it’s critically important that this investigation continue; that anytime that there’s any allegation of public corruption of a public official or a congressman, that we do everything we can to fully investigate this.”
A very sound principle — one that unfortunately does not apply to President Bush.

or rove or cheney or delay or frist or the iraq war architects or anyone else on the “cia leak list” and everyone else i’m sure i’ve left out…
you get the idea…

]]> By: Almost Boiled Frog http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-576601 Almost Boiled Frog Sat, 27 May 2006 02:08:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/bartlett-falsely-claims-bush-supports-investigation-of-any-allegation-of-public-corruption/#comment-576601 Re: "Here is a man who has admitted guilt to some egregious conduct and behavior in the course of several years." Which one is he talking about? Re: “Here is a man who has admitted guilt to some egregious conduct and behavior in the course of several years.”

Which one is he talking about?

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