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		<title>By: MeMine69</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-1255967</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMine69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m tired of panicking. Iâ€™m tired of being miserable and trying to make everyone else as miserable as I am. I&#039;m tired of getting up on a beautiful day and seeing dark clouds in a clear blue sky. Iâ€™ve been miserable ever since the UN announced 18 years ago that the planet had been experiencing unprecedented warming for several years. So twenty years later as Iâ€™m still paying heating bills, buying snow tires, skinning, shoveling snow, having the kids home on â€œsnowâ€ days and booking  the annual vacation to the warm relief of the Florida Keys, I can no longer be part of this panic room. I&#039;m embarrassed that I did it for this long. Being miserable and pointing fingers at imagined demons is a self full filling prophecy now matter how illogical the theory becomes. I grow weary of the hysteria as the so-called emergency lingers on and on and on..... The enemy is not corporations, the SUV or Conservatives. The enemy is my own ignorant flaky attitude.  I now realize that Global Warming/Climate Change/Global Change was born in the realms of self-serving politics and media and further bred by the â€œfeel goodâ€ mentality of activism. Just how can CO2 that comes out of my mouth (and that plants need it to survive) and Methane, that comes out my ass, cause the icecaps to melt? Now really! 
Every change in the weather is not permanent, itâ€™s just weather. Therefore Climate Change is defined as SPRING, SUMMER, FALL and WINTER. Get over it. A sample of air from the 1950&#039;s would be cleaner than todayâ€™s air wouldnâ€™t it? Of course it would considering how we heated homes with oil, wood or coal, had polluting industry and drove cars with no air pollution controls at all. 
1)Early explorers mentioned the Los Angeles &quot;fog&quot;. 
2)Weather cycles in, ah,  cycles? 
3)The planet&#039;s atmosphere is not like an abandoned fish tank because with its carbon cycle, it FILTERS itself. Hello: VOLCANO&#039;S?
4)The planet is a strong, resilient, adaptive and enduring wonder that is based on Chaos.
5)Why is there not a corresponding shortage of Oxygen if combustion is causing excess CO2?
Here is proof that Global Warming is merely a cultural product of Marshal Macluen&#039;s so-called &quot;GLOBAL VILLAGE&quot; : Just last week the UN announced that cattle (yes, cows) cause more global warming than humans. They issued it. Look for yourself. 
Smile. Be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tired of panicking. Iâ€™m tired of being miserable and trying to make everyone else as miserable as I am. I&#8217;m tired of getting up on a beautiful day and seeing dark clouds in a clear blue sky. Iâ€™ve been miserable ever since the UN announced 18 years ago that the planet had been experiencing unprecedented warming for several years. So twenty years later as Iâ€™m still paying heating bills, buying snow tires, skinning, shoveling snow, having the kids home on â€œsnowâ€ days and booking  the annual vacation to the warm relief of the Florida Keys, I can no longer be part of this panic room. I&#8217;m embarrassed that I did it for this long. Being miserable and pointing fingers at imagined demons is a self full filling prophecy now matter how illogical the theory becomes. I grow weary of the hysteria as the so-called emergency lingers on and on and on&#8230;.. The enemy is not corporations, the SUV or Conservatives. The enemy is my own ignorant flaky attitude.  I now realize that Global Warming/Climate Change/Global Change was born in the realms of self-serving politics and media and further bred by the â€œfeel goodâ€ mentality of activism. Just how can CO2 that comes out of my mouth (and that plants need it to survive) and Methane, that comes out my ass, cause the icecaps to melt? Now really!<br />
Every change in the weather is not permanent, itâ€™s just weather. Therefore Climate Change is defined as SPRING, SUMMER, FALL and WINTER. Get over it. A sample of air from the 1950&#8217;s would be cleaner than todayâ€™s air wouldnâ€™t it? Of course it would considering how we heated homes with oil, wood or coal, had polluting industry and drove cars with no air pollution controls at all.<br />
1)Early explorers mentioned the Los Angeles &#8220;fog&#8221;.<br />
2)Weather cycles in, ah,  cycles?<br />
3)The planet&#8217;s atmosphere is not like an abandoned fish tank because with its carbon cycle, it FILTERS itself. Hello: VOLCANO&#8217;S?<br />
4)The planet is a strong, resilient, adaptive and enduring wonder that is based on Chaos.<br />
5)Why is there not a corresponding shortage of Oxygen if combustion is causing excess CO2?<br />
Here is proof that Global Warming is merely a cultural product of Marshal Macluen&#8217;s so-called &#8220;GLOBAL VILLAGE&#8221; : Just last week the UN announced that cattle (yes, cows) cause more global warming than humans. They issued it. Look for yourself.<br />
Smile. Be happy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1255967', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan A</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-613585</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Gray is the &quot;go to guy&quot; for the mainstream media. He&#039;s the one that gets screen time each year for the annual tropical storm/hurricane forecast. While he&#039;s highly visible in the public discourse on the effects of global warming on storms; he&#039;s curiously absent from the debate going on in the scientific community. He hasn&#039;t written articles on the subject for any scientifc magazines, journals, or peer review publications. I heard a scientific panel on radio discussing  Gray&#039;s approach to forecasting as fairly inaccurate, mainly because he works alone. As per the discussion a more reliable approach would be a team effort between a meteorologist, an oceanographer,  an atmospheric scientist, a climatologist, and a specialist in hurricanes. In 2005 Gray forecasted 15 name storms. We had 26. The scary thing is that this year he&#039;s made a forecast of 17 name storms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Gray is the &#8220;go to guy&#8221; for the mainstream media. He&#8217;s the one that gets screen time each year for the annual tropical storm/hurricane forecast. While he&#8217;s highly visible in the public discourse on the effects of global warming on storms; he&#8217;s curiously absent from the debate going on in the scientific community. He hasn&#8217;t written articles on the subject for any scientifc magazines, journals, or peer review publications. I heard a scientific panel on radio discussing  Gray&#8217;s approach to forecasting as fairly inaccurate, mainly because he works alone. As per the discussion a more reliable approach would be a team effort between a meteorologist, an oceanographer,  an atmospheric scientist, a climatologist, and a specialist in hurricanes. In 2005 Gray forecasted 15 name storms. We had 26. The scary thing is that this year he&#8217;s made a forecast of 17 name storms.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=613585', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Later On &#187; Why is Nazi Germany on our minds?</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-611414</link>
		<dc:creator>Later On &#187; Why is Nazi Germany on our minds?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#039;ve been thinking about the question for a while now, after observing that comparisons to Nazis, Nazi Germany, and Hitler spring up in the most unexpected places. And it&#039;s not just the Right that seems to have Nazi Germany on its mind, but the Left as well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#39;ve been thinking about the question for a while now, after observing that comparisons to Nazis, Nazi Germany, and Hitler spring up in the most unexpected places. And it&#39;s not just the Right that seems to have Nazi Germany on its mind, but the Left as well. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=611414', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-605582</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 23:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really old-but still true.When the only tool you have is a hammer, all problems look like nails!!
 All those people(White House) are OIL people.
answer to all problems-Find more oil.
They don&#039;t know any other way!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really old-but still true.When the only tool you have is a hammer, all problems look like nails!!<br />
 All those people(White House) are OIL people.<br />
answer to all problems-Find more oil.<br />
They don&#8217;t know any other way!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=605582', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mad cowboy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-588521</link>
		<dc:creator>mad cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 06:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people, you still want to debate If theres global warming?  You need a scientist to tell you that the earth is frying? Get out of your moms basement and go outside for a day. Take your shirt off and debate the blisters on your skin. That we debate the obvious just shows how screwed we and the earth are. When do we get around to debating how or if we can fix the problems we&#039;ve caused? When the last person leaves please turn out the lights!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people, you still want to debate If theres global warming?  You need a scientist to tell you that the earth is frying? Get out of your moms basement and go outside for a day. Take your shirt off and debate the blisters on your skin. That we debate the obvious just shows how screwed we and the earth are. When do we get around to debating how or if we can fix the problems we&#8217;ve caused? When the last person leaves please turn out the lights!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=588521', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-588172</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The econazis are just dupes for the socialist scum that would like nothing better to wreck the economy and have nurse Ratchet-like fascist statists come in and to take even more control.

The left gets loonier by the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The econazis are just dupes for the socialist scum that would like nothing better to wreck the economy and have nurse Ratchet-like fascist statists come in and to take even more control.</p>
<p>The left gets loonier by the day.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=588172', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: calguy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-586577</link>
		<dc:creator>calguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 07:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlos, in post #149, you are just wrong about the climate models, and you can go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ipcc.ch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the IPCC web pages &lt;/a&gt;, follow the links to the science report from 2001 and see the evidence there.  The climate models do a very good job of capturing recent past climate.  When applied to paleoclimate they tend to underestimate effects.  But in particular, the models have been used to show that the global temperature trend over the last century is consistent with the amounts of greenhouse gases and aerosols/soot added by us, but NOT with natrual variability of the sun over the same time frame.  

You should also pay attention to Chap. 12 of that report where it is pointed out that the pattern of warming in the atmosphere as a function of latitude and vertical position is consistent with human induced warming but not with warming induced by solar variability.  

You are just wrong and you should do your homework before you make such sweeping statements.  The consensus on the attribution of global warming may not reach that level of confidence in the theories of Einstein and Newton, but it is close to the level of empirically derived certainty that one associates with cigarettes causing lung cancer. 

I see no particular reason to keep an open mind on this as you exhort--that stance is SOOO 25 years ago, to be frank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlos, in post #149, you are just wrong about the climate models, and you can go to <a href="http://www.ipcc.ch" rel="nofollow">the IPCC web pages </a>, follow the links to the science report from 2001 and see the evidence there.  The climate models do a very good job of capturing recent past climate.  When applied to paleoclimate they tend to underestimate effects.  But in particular, the models have been used to show that the global temperature trend over the last century is consistent with the amounts of greenhouse gases and aerosols/soot added by us, but NOT with natrual variability of the sun over the same time frame.  </p>
<p>You should also pay attention to Chap. 12 of that report where it is pointed out that the pattern of warming in the atmosphere as a function of latitude and vertical position is consistent with human induced warming but not with warming induced by solar variability.  </p>
<p>You are just wrong and you should do your homework before you make such sweeping statements.  The consensus on the attribution of global warming may not reach that level of confidence in the theories of Einstein and Newton, but it is close to the level of empirically derived certainty that one associates with cigarettes causing lung cancer. </p>
<p>I see no particular reason to keep an open mind on this as you exhort&#8211;that stance is SOOO 25 years ago, to be frank.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=586577', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Kanninen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-585672</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Kanninen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 23:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been amazed by how many people are raging against &quot;An Inconvenient Truth&quot; in various forums.  What is their motivation?  They haven&#039;t seen the movie, so they can&#039;t be disagreeing with it&#039;s science.

-Brother Rail Gun of the Short Path</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been amazed by how many people are raging against &#8220;An Inconvenient Truth&#8221; in various forums.  What is their motivation?  They haven&#8217;t seen the movie, so they can&#8217;t be disagreeing with it&#8217;s science.</p>
<p>-Brother Rail Gun of the Short Path<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=585672', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-585172</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 19:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;#162 Must be running&lt;/em&gt;

Stop fleeing from the loony bin guards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>#162 Must be running</em></p>
<p>Stop fleeing from the loony bin guards.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=585172', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-584993</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 18:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The â€œSKY IS WARMINGâ€¦.I MEAN, FALLINGâ€ scare is about POWER - not environmentalismâ€¦..&lt;/em&gt;

That has to be the most insane thing our resident drag queen has said this week.

We aren&#039;t like you.  It isn&#039;t about power.  It is about the environment.  Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The â€œSKY IS WARMINGâ€¦.I MEAN, FALLINGâ€ scare is about POWER &#8211; not environmentalismâ€¦..</em></p>
<p>That has to be the most insane thing our resident drag queen has said this week.</p>
<p>We aren&#8217;t like you.  It isn&#8217;t about power.  It is about the environment.  Seriously.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584993', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/28/comparing-gore-to-hitler/comment-page-4/#comment-584924</link>
		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 17:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#155 - Dear Colorado Russ - Of course you are correct regarding the left&#039;s intent to redistribute the wealth.  Their LATEST ploy in the Ecowack  charade is sounding the alarm about inevitable climate changes.  When this premise is presented, the argument shifts to the &quot;speed&quot; of contemporary climate changes vs. the Ice Ages and melt downs of old.  If the immoral, leftist, hypocrites were TRULY CONCERNED with reducing greenhouse gases, they would rightly be aghast that only two Euro Union countries are able to complywith Kyoto and China and India are left to their own devices.  REMEMBER, good intentions mean EVERYTHING to the Left - these are folks who are not result driven.  

The &quot;SKY IS WARMING....I MEAN, FALLING&quot; scare is about POWER - not environmentalism.....

Must be running - a busy day is scheduled....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#155 &#8211; Dear Colorado Russ &#8211; Of course you are correct regarding the left&#8217;s intent to redistribute the wealth.  Their LATEST ploy in the Ecowack  charade is sounding the alarm about inevitable climate changes.  When this premise is presented, the argument shifts to the &#8220;speed&#8221; of contemporary climate changes vs. the Ice Ages and melt downs of old.  If the immoral, leftist, hypocrites were TRULY CONCERNED with reducing greenhouse gases, they would rightly be aghast that only two Euro Union countries are able to complywith Kyoto and China and India are left to their own devices.  REMEMBER, good intentions mean EVERYTHING to the Left &#8211; these are folks who are not result driven.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;SKY IS WARMING&#8230;.I MEAN, FALLING&#8221; scare is about POWER &#8211; not environmentalism&#8230;..</p>
<p>Must be running &#8211; a busy day is scheduled&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584924', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Blah!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blah!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 17:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who did grandfather Bush Fund?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who did grandfather Bush Fund?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584909', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 17:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seixon,

Your hypocrisy astounds me.  You&#039;re chiding people for commenting on a movie they know nothing about and having preconceived ideas about it, and then turning around and telling us that you have already concluded, without seeing it either, that it is full of fear mongering and that Al Gore deserves &#039;a spanking&#039; as a result.  A trailer is used to sell...  he is after all, donating the profits of the movie.  Shameless to want those donations to be as big a possible, I know - but try to walk your own talk at least...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seixon,</p>
<p>Your hypocrisy astounds me.  You&#8217;re chiding people for commenting on a movie they know nothing about and having preconceived ideas about it, and then turning around and telling us that you have already concluded, without seeing it either, that it is full of fear mongering and that Al Gore deserves &#8216;a spanking&#8217; as a result.  A trailer is used to sell&#8230;  he is after all, donating the profits of the movie.  Shameless to want those donations to be as big a possible, I know &#8211; but try to walk your own talk at least&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584893', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 15:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#158 Misleading as Bush sitting down reading My Pet Goat while the Twin Towers exploded?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#158 Misleading as Bush sitting down reading My Pet Goat while the Twin Towers exploded?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584737', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Seixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 15:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing as how most people haven&#039;t been able to see the movie yet, I&#039;m not surprised that people are going after Gore than his movie. Let&#039;s wait until everyone has seen the movie. I, for one, will be spanking the hell out of his movie for its disingenuous fear-mongering. The trailer provides more than enough indication that it&#039;s a propaganda film every bit as misleading as Fahrenheit 9/11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing as how most people haven&#8217;t been able to see the movie yet, I&#8217;m not surprised that people are going after Gore than his movie. Let&#8217;s wait until everyone has seen the movie. I, for one, will be spanking the hell out of his movie for its disingenuous fear-mongering. The trailer provides more than enough indication that it&#8217;s a propaganda film every bit as misleading as Fahrenheit 9/11.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584711', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 13:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#155 If all you do is get your talking points directly from Fox News, without hesitating to search evidence from scientific sources, you don&#039;t have any credibility at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#155 If all you do is get your talking points directly from Fox News, without hesitating to search evidence from scientific sources, you don&#8217;t have any credibility at all.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584466', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 13:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Their goal is a worldwide redistribution of wealth, and they donâ€™t particularly care what means they use to that end. 
Comment by Colorado Russ â€” May 30, 2006 @ 9:03 am &lt;/em&gt;

I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Their goal is a worldwide redistribution of wealth, and they donâ€™t particularly care what means they use to that end.<br />
Comment by Colorado Russ â€” May 30, 2006 @ 9:03 am </em></p>
<p>I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584463', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Colorado Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colorado Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 13:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The belief that mankind is a significant factor in global climate change is a huge fraud.

The people who advocate that belief, as Al Gore does, do so out of political, not scientific, conviction.

If they had any scientific conviction, they would focus on water vapor, which is by far the most significant contributor to the greenhouse effect--about 99 percent. 

Knowing this, why does Kyoto propose to only regulate Carbon gasses?  Because it &#039;s goal never was to stop climate change--as Al Gore himself admitted on January 4, 2006.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185171,00.html

Their goal is a worldwide redistribution of wealth, and they don&#039;t particularly care what means they use to that end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The belief that mankind is a significant factor in global climate change is a huge fraud.</p>
<p>The people who advocate that belief, as Al Gore does, do so out of political, not scientific, conviction.</p>
<p>If they had any scientific conviction, they would focus on water vapor, which is by far the most significant contributor to the greenhouse effect&#8211;about 99 percent. </p>
<p>Knowing this, why does Kyoto propose to only regulate Carbon gasses?  Because it &#8217;s goal never was to stop climate change&#8211;as Al Gore himself admitted on January 4, 2006.<br />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185171,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185171,00.html</a></p>
<p>Their goal is a worldwide redistribution of wealth, and they don&#8217;t particularly care what means they use to that end.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584453', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 12:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The solution to global warming is local. 
Comment by troll â€” May 30, 2006 @ 6:47 am &lt;/em&gt;

Frequently, I think the problem is that we&#039;ve made our world our business...  literally.  Mega anything - especially mega corprations and mega governments seem to have a way of screwing up local lives.  Just look at what messes global corporations and federal governments have gotten us into...  I&#039;d even add mega-religions and blame Constantine for initiating that.  The megas are always fighting the other megas to enslave the masses, and be the mega-mega.  Nearly everything seems to work better at a local level.  Unfortunately, we haven&#039;t kept it there, and now global warming is most definitely global...  And, I agree, the answer is local.  Remove the megas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The solution to global warming is local.<br />
Comment by troll â€” May 30, 2006 @ 6:47 am </em></p>
<p>Frequently, I think the problem is that we&#8217;ve made our world our business&#8230;  literally.  Mega anything &#8211; especially mega corprations and mega governments seem to have a way of screwing up local lives.  Just look at what messes global corporations and federal governments have gotten us into&#8230;  I&#8217;d even add mega-religions and blame Constantine for initiating that.  The megas are always fighting the other megas to enslave the masses, and be the mega-mega.  Nearly everything seems to work better at a local level.  Unfortunately, we haven&#8217;t kept it there, and now global warming is most definitely global&#8230;  And, I agree, the answer is local.  Remove the megas.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584449', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 12:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;#149 Science is not a democracy. Scientific findings are not decided by a vote. There is universal consensus on many scientific principles â€” until the next genius comes along and overturns what everyone else thought was set in stone. You cannot compare the debate over global warming to evolution, say. Climate models frequently fail to predict what has already happened, let alone what will occur 50 or 100 years from now. Read the links I provided above. Keep an open mind.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Overturns?&lt;/em&gt; Sorry, but talk best of refinements, expansions and better comprehension of the nature. Every &quot;boy genius&quot; doesn&#039;t sweep the whole set of physics, mathematics, chemical, biological, or engineering knowledge under the rug, and invents a completely new one. If not, the humanity would have been reinventing the wheel every generation since the prehistory, and hasn&#039;t. Maybe you drive a horsecart nowadays? Or you drive a modern car with the last technologies, plastics who don&#039;t exist free in the nature, alloys who where developed for rockets 30 years ago, or a brand new GPS system where used to be a compass, at best? You talk as if we where running in circles, and definitively no, we are advancing. Maybe we do some turns left and right, but it&#039;s just as you drive from your home to the work: you do some turns and corners but you definitively advance from your home to your work. If you live in New York, for example, you can drive by a limited set of streets to get from Queens to Manhattan. You don&#039;t need to drive from Queens to Los Angeles and back to Manhattan. &quot;Boy geniuses&quot; who revolution science simply are as the mayor who constructs a new speedway or expands tunnels. It makes a better way from your home to work, but don&#039;t need to redesing all the speedways of the USA or make a detour to Los Angeles.

One example of stability of the great building of science: In 1687, Newton defined the principle (it existed always, but he was the first who defined it formally) of the Gravitation (why the things fall to the center of the Earth and other massive objects). His works were &lt;strong&gt;refined&lt;/strong&gt; by a couple scientifics in the XX century, pricipally, who had better backgroud and tools to define the same idea for the whole Universe. They were, basically, Einstein and Stephen Hawking, but there were a lot of people working in the same field... This means that the works of Newton are less valid today? &lt;strong&gt;NO&lt;/strong&gt;. For example, you know &lt;em&gt;how is called in the meter-kilogram-second system, the unit of Force required to accelerate a mass of one kilogram one meter per second per second, equal to 100,000 dynes?&lt;/em&gt; It&#039;s called &lt;strong&gt;Newton&lt;/strong&gt;. Guess why. It&#039;s extensively used today in rocket science, avionics, car designing and hundreds and hundres of applications.

And for the theories of gravitation of Newton, yes, Einstein and Hawking expanded it, but only to cosmic measurements. That means that they refined the model of Newton to measure distances to stars and galaxies more accurately, but you can use without remorse the Newton system to measure &quot;small&quot; systems, as plane speeds, car efficiency and almost every physical movement in the Earth.

As you state your &lt;em&gt;believings&lt;/em&gt;, I see that your mind is &lt;strong&gt;too open&lt;/strong&gt;, meaning that you believe everything that a would-be scientist says about a vacuum cleaner in a TV ad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>#149 Science is not a democracy. Scientific findings are not decided by a vote. There is universal consensus on many scientific principles â€” until the next genius comes along and overturns what everyone else thought was set in stone. You cannot compare the debate over global warming to evolution, say. Climate models frequently fail to predict what has already happened, let alone what will occur 50 or 100 years from now. Read the links I provided above. Keep an open mind.</em></p>
<p><em>Overturns?</em> Sorry, but talk best of refinements, expansions and better comprehension of the nature. Every &#8220;boy genius&#8221; doesn&#8217;t sweep the whole set of physics, mathematics, chemical, biological, or engineering knowledge under the rug, and invents a completely new one. If not, the humanity would have been reinventing the wheel every generation since the prehistory, and hasn&#8217;t. Maybe you drive a horsecart nowadays? Or you drive a modern car with the last technologies, plastics who don&#8217;t exist free in the nature, alloys who where developed for rockets 30 years ago, or a brand new GPS system where used to be a compass, at best? You talk as if we where running in circles, and definitively no, we are advancing. Maybe we do some turns left and right, but it&#8217;s just as you drive from your home to the work: you do some turns and corners but you definitively advance from your home to your work. If you live in New York, for example, you can drive by a limited set of streets to get from Queens to Manhattan. You don&#8217;t need to drive from Queens to Los Angeles and back to Manhattan. &#8220;Boy geniuses&#8221; who revolution science simply are as the mayor who constructs a new speedway or expands tunnels. It makes a better way from your home to work, but don&#8217;t need to redesing all the speedways of the USA or make a detour to Los Angeles.</p>
<p>One example of stability of the great building of science: In 1687, Newton defined the principle (it existed always, but he was the first who defined it formally) of the Gravitation (why the things fall to the center of the Earth and other massive objects). His works were <strong>refined</strong> by a couple scientifics in the XX century, pricipally, who had better backgroud and tools to define the same idea for the whole Universe. They were, basically, Einstein and Stephen Hawking, but there were a lot of people working in the same field&#8230; This means that the works of Newton are less valid today? <strong>NO</strong>. For example, you know <em>how is called in the meter-kilogram-second system, the unit of Force required to accelerate a mass of one kilogram one meter per second per second, equal to 100,000 dynes?</em> It&#8217;s called <strong>Newton</strong>. Guess why. It&#8217;s extensively used today in rocket science, avionics, car designing and hundreds and hundres of applications.</p>
<p>And for the theories of gravitation of Newton, yes, Einstein and Hawking expanded it, but only to cosmic measurements. That means that they refined the model of Newton to measure distances to stars and galaxies more accurately, but you can use without remorse the Newton system to measure &#8220;small&#8221; systems, as plane speeds, car efficiency and almost every physical movement in the Earth.</p>
<p>As you state your <em>believings</em>, I see that your mind is <strong>too open</strong>, meaning that you believe everything that a would-be scientist says about a vacuum cleaner in a TV ad.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=584378', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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