Comments on: With One Pen Stroke, Bush Raises Taxes Twice http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:26:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Peter http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-4308408 Peter Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:13:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-4308408 <strong>Peter</strong> I just wanted to say that the quality of your site is exceptional. On top of all that it really complements the content that is provided by your site. Peter

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]]> By: troll http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-588796 troll Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:21:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-588796 I did not say I was pro bush Jackass. I did not say I was pro bush Jackass.

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-588226 JPark Thu, 01 Jun 2006 02:39:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-588226 Congratulations troll, Bush has certainly starved the beast. Moron. Congratulations troll, Bush has certainly starved the beast. Moron.

]]> By: troll http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-587351 troll Wed, 31 May 2006 17:02:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-587351 If TP cultist were as critical of TPs bias as they are of Fox bias "progress" might actually be made on these pages. If TP cultist were as critical of TPs bias as they are of Fox bias “progress” might actually be made on these pages.

]]> By: For Truth http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-587127 For Truth Wed, 31 May 2006 15:34:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-587127 OK Lora, its all good. OK Lora, its all good.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-587089 Lora Wed, 31 May 2006 15:14:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-587089 “…doing away with almost every environmental regulation, as Bush has been doing, is hardly the way to mitigate pollution.” Comment by Lora — May 31, 2006 @ 9:18 am Just a slight exageration(SIC) dont you think? Comment by Troll Ps. Yes, just very slight, especially when one considers that Bush is even trying to get rid of environmental standards set up by a Repub president to whom he is often compared, Richard Nixon. “…doing away with almost every environmental regulation, as Bush has been doing, is hardly the way to mitigate pollution.”
Comment by Lora — May 31, 2006 @ 9:18 am

Just a slight exageration(SIC) dont you think?

Comment by Troll

Ps. Yes, just very slight, especially when one considers that Bush is even trying to get rid of environmental standards set up by a Repub president to whom he is often compared, Richard Nixon.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-587082 Lora Wed, 31 May 2006 15:10:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-587082 I am a believer that we need to starve the beast that is the federal gov. but for TP to state that “Perhaps these tax hikes are good policy.” and still bitch about Bush reveals TP does not judge on principle but rather is a partisan political player. Comment by troll To Troll, The federal government, which you would like to starve, has in fact grown to record size under Bush Jr. And no other "wartime" president has cut taxes--particularly on the wealthiest--while waging war. The Iraq War was a war of choice--not necessity, as that country did not attack the US and had no links to 9/11. When waging a war of choice, a real leader should have planned the budget to deal with it. And there's been no accountability, either. $8 or 9 billion go missing; Halliburton consistently overcharges but still receives no-bid contracts. As for TP being partisan, what did you expect when you started looking at a site called ThinkProgress? I wouldn't expect a non-partisan blog from Ann-thrax Coulter's site, so it's rather naive of you to expect something different from TP. I am a believer that we need to starve the beast that is the federal gov. but for TP to state that “Perhaps these tax hikes are good policy.” and still bitch about Bush reveals TP does not judge on principle but rather is a partisan political player.

Comment by troll

To Troll,
The federal government, which you would like to starve, has in fact grown to record size under Bush Jr. And no other “wartime” president has cut taxes–particularly on the wealthiest–while waging war. The Iraq War was a war of choice–not necessity, as that country did not attack the US and had no links to 9/11. When waging a war of choice, a real leader should have planned the budget to deal with it. And there’s been no accountability, either. $8 or 9 billion go missing; Halliburton consistently overcharges but still receives no-bid contracts.
As for TP being partisan, what did you expect when you started looking at a site called ThinkProgress? I wouldn’t expect a non-partisan blog from Ann-thrax Coulter’s site, so it’s rather naive of you to expect something different from TP.

]]> By: troll http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-587051 troll Wed, 31 May 2006 14:51:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-587051 "...doing away with almost every environmental regulation, as Bush has been doing, is hardly the way to mitigate pollution." Comment by Lora — May 31, 2006 @ 9:18 am Just a slight exageration dont you think? Clinton had balanced budgets to sign because thats what the republican congress at the time gave him. Poverty may have increased but Cinton did not have to deal with the tech bubble collapse, nor 9/11 or the cost of war or the effects of the massive trade agreement which Clinton signed. In addition Clinton had the benifit of a large percentage of Americans entering the stock market during his tenure. So in short it was luck, not his policies, which led to the economy of the 90s. From the congressional budget office http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/57xx/doc5746/08-13-EffectiveFedTaxRates.pdf <blockquote>"Under current law and the assumption that incomes grow at a constant rate, the overall effective federal tax rate drops from 21.5 percent in 2001 to 19.6 percent in 2004. It then rises irregularly over the subsequent decade as tax provisions phase in and out. In particular, the rate jumps to 21.4 percent in 2005 with the expiration of most provisions of the 2003 tax law, climbs slowly over the succeeding five years to 22.1 percent in 2010, jumps again to 23.6 percent in 2011 following the sunset of the 2001 tax law, and then rises again to 24.1 percent in 2014."</blockquote> It's the same old word game Bush lowers the rate of increase and libs call it a tax cut when in fact it is still a net increase. The wealthiest 1% pay 34% of all income tax. the top 25% pay 83% How is that fair in a "free" society? How come you libs are all egalitarian about everything exept the tax rate? Show some consistancy of your own. I am not happy to see any tax hike because I am a believer that we need to starve the beast that is the federal gov. but for TP to state that "Perhaps these tax hikes are good policy." and still bitch about Bush reveals TP does not judge on principle but rather is a partisan political player. “…doing away with almost every environmental regulation, as Bush has been doing, is hardly the way to mitigate pollution.”
Comment by Lora — May 31, 2006 @ 9:18 am

Just a slight exageration dont you think?

Clinton had balanced budgets to sign because thats what the republican congress at the time gave him.

Poverty may have increased but Cinton did not have to deal with the tech bubble collapse, nor 9/11 or the cost of war or the effects of the massive trade agreement which Clinton signed. In addition Clinton had the benifit of a large percentage of Americans entering the stock market during his tenure. So in short it was luck, not his policies, which led to the economy of the 90s.

From the congressional budget office
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/57xx/doc5746/08-13-EffectiveFedTaxRates.pdf

“Under current law and the assumption that incomes grow at a constant rate, the overall effective
federal tax rate drops from 21.5 percent in 2001 to 19.6 percent in 2004. It then rises
irregularly over the subsequent decade as tax provisions phase in and out. In particular, the
rate jumps to 21.4 percent in 2005 with the expiration of most provisions of the 2003 tax law,
climbs slowly over the succeeding five years to 22.1 percent in 2010, jumps again to 23.6 percent
in 2011 following the sunset of the 2001 tax law, and then rises again to 24.1 percent in
2014.”

It’s the same old word game Bush lowers the rate of increase and libs call it a tax cut when in fact it is still a net increase. The wealthiest 1% pay 34% of all income tax. the top 25% pay 83% How is that fair in a “free” society? How come you libs are all egalitarian about everything exept the tax rate? Show some consistancy of your own.

I am not happy to see any tax hike because I am a believer that we need to starve the beast that is the federal gov. but for TP to state that “Perhaps these tax hikes are good policy.” and still bitch about Bush reveals TP does not judge on principle but rather is a partisan political player.

]]> By: Rebel With A Cause http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-587022 Rebel With A Cause Wed, 31 May 2006 14:28:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-587022 <em>If you all are upset about this why in the hell dont every working man, woman and teenager go into the office of where he works and fill out a new W-2 form claiming , say 5 dependents. This will reduce the money flowing into the treasury by a tremendous amount and Bushco wont have any money to throw around. The results of this action? I dont know for sure but at least the idiots advisors will have something to think about. Dont you all think it is about time to take some united action against this idiotic presidency? I do.</em> If you all are upset about this why in the hell dont every working man, woman and teenager go into the office of where he works and fill out a new W-2 form claiming , say 5 dependents.

This will reduce the money flowing into the treasury by a tremendous amount and Bushco wont have any money to throw around.

The results of this action? I dont know for sure but at least the idiots advisors will have something to think about.

Dont you all think it is about time to take some united action against this idiotic presidency?

I do.

]]> By: Kaye http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-587011 Kaye Wed, 31 May 2006 14:13:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-587011 Of course they raise taxes on the ex-pats, EX-PATS HAVE NO REPRESENTATION IN CONGRESS TO TAKE BRIBES TO DEFEND THEIR INTERESTS. There is this myth that Americans abroad are some kind of rich slackers who deserve to be milked for taxes. Not every ex-pat lives in London or Paris you know. Americans abroad are the face of the US to the rest of the world; they represent US interests, they live in hard conditions sometimes and sacrifice much to further the goals and ideals of American business and American culture. Americans are the ONLY citizens taxed while living and working outside the country. This is not fair. The US needs to fix its fiscal house but not on the backs of those who have no voice. Of course they raise taxes on the ex-pats, EX-PATS HAVE NO REPRESENTATION IN CONGRESS TO TAKE BRIBES TO DEFEND THEIR INTERESTS.

There is this myth that Americans abroad are some kind of rich slackers who deserve to be milked for taxes. Not every ex-pat lives in London or Paris you know.

Americans abroad are the face of the US to the rest of the world; they represent US interests, they live in hard conditions sometimes and sacrifice much to further the goals and ideals of American business and American culture.

Americans are the ONLY citizens taxed while living and working outside the country. This is not fair. The US needs to fix its fiscal house but not on the backs of those who have no voice.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-586934 Lora Wed, 31 May 2006 13:18:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-586934 #38 In case you didn't notice, the budget was balanced under Clinton. We are neither as stupid nor as idealistic as you imagine. We realize that poverty and corruption will always exist, but the percentage of people living in poverty has increased under Bush. And doing away with almost every environmental regulation, as Bush has been doing, is hardly the way to mitigate pollution. And incidentally increasing the taxes for Americans overseas who pay taxes in the country where they work was proposed a number of times during the Clinton administration but never came to fruition. #38
In case you didn’t notice, the budget was balanced under Clinton.
We are neither as stupid nor as idealistic as you imagine. We realize that poverty and corruption will always exist, but the percentage of people living in poverty has increased under Bush. And doing away with almost every environmental regulation, as Bush has been doing, is hardly the way to mitigate pollution.
And incidentally increasing the taxes for Americans overseas who pay taxes in the country where they work was proposed a number of times during the Clinton administration but never came to fruition.

]]> By: troll http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-586889 troll Wed, 31 May 2006 12:22:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-586889 Aint that the truth. But don't count on these guys getting it. They think if dems where in office the budget would be balanced, that we could have diplomatic relations with islamofascists, there would be no political corruption, no more pollution, no more poverty and we would all live in peace and harmony. Aint that the truth. But don’t count on these guys getting it. They think if dems where in office the budget would be balanced, that we could have diplomatic relations with islamofascists, there would be no political corruption, no more pollution, no more poverty and we would all live in peace and harmony.

]]> By: Antagonist http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-586879 Antagonist Wed, 31 May 2006 12:10:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-586879 This tax increase in nothing. Wait till the Democrats win back the house and the presidency---then you'll you see some real tax increases. This tax increase in nothing. Wait till the Democrats win back the house and the presidency—then you’ll you see some real tax increases.

]]> By: troll http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-586781 troll Wed, 31 May 2006 10:57:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-586781 Our soldiers overseas live in installations which are covered by Status-of-forces agreements and would not be subject to the added tax. Our soldiers overseas live in installations which are covered by Status-of-forces agreements and would not be subject to the added tax.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-586326 Lora Wed, 31 May 2006 05:22:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-586326 Wew, make a little sarcastic joke and get railed. Geez. I think if you can afford to travel and live overseas, then a little extra tax won’t be noticed. OK I am bitter cuz I never got to go, wah! Comment by For Truth For Truth, Why don't you save some of your jealousy for millionaires, who receive tax rebates of over $42,000? How does that compare with double-taxing families living overseas making between, let's say, $83,000 and $100,000? A little extra tax, in fact, will be noticed, and could make the difference between being able or unable to go home for Christmas or summer vacation. Wew, make a little sarcastic joke and get railed. Geez. I think if you can afford to travel and live overseas, then a little extra tax won’t be noticed. OK I am bitter cuz I never got to go, wah!

Comment by For Truth

For Truth,
Why don’t you save some of your jealousy for millionaires, who receive tax rebates of over $42,000? How does that compare with double-taxing families living overseas making between, let’s say, $83,000 and $100,000? A little extra tax, in fact, will be noticed, and could make the difference between being able or unable to go home for Christmas or summer vacation.

]]> By: For Truth http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-586284 For Truth Wed, 31 May 2006 05:02:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-586284 Wew, make a little sarcastic joke and get railed. Geez. I think if you can afford to travel and live overseas, then a little extra tax won't be noticed. OK I am bitter cuz I never got to go, wah! Wew, make a little sarcastic joke and get railed. Geez. I think if you can afford to travel and live overseas, then a little extra tax won’t be noticed. OK I am bitter cuz I never got to go, wah!

]]> By: For Truth http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-586281 For Truth Wed, 31 May 2006 04:58:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-586281 Yeah go live in Singapore, you get jailed for chewing gum. Yeah go live in Singapore, you get jailed for chewing gum.

]]> By: Stupid Republcans http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-586035 Stupid Republcans Wed, 31 May 2006 01:55:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-586035 <a href="http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169790" rel="nofollow">PROTEST BUSH</a> PROTEST BUSH

]]> By: Bush Bites http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-585989 Bush Bites Wed, 31 May 2006 01:38:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-585989 Well, such tax hikes are only "good policy" if they're used to balance the budget. If they're used as a fig leaf for more tax cuts for the rich (which these are), they are worse than bad policy. They're immoral. Well, such tax hikes are only “good policy” if they’re used to balance the budget.

If they’re used as a fig leaf for more tax cuts for the rich (which these are), they are worse than bad policy.

They’re immoral.

]]> By: the Lone Voice of Reason http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/comment-page-1/#comment-585985 the Lone Voice of Reason Wed, 31 May 2006 01:36:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-raises-taxes-twice/#comment-585985 Tax cuts for the wealthy create deficits , can that be argued . Nothing good comes out of them . A few years back I got my tax cut , or should I say tax rebate , which I had to pay a gift tax on that as well . Real nice , thanks monkey boy . Tax cuts for the wealthy create deficits , can that be argued . Nothing good comes out of them . A few years back I got my tax cut , or should I say tax rebate , which I had to pay a gift tax on that as well . Real nice , thanks monkey boy .

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