Murtha on Haditha: ‘I Know There Was a Cover-up … The Chain of Command Tried to Stifle the Story’
Murtha on Haditha: ‘I Know There Was a Cover-up … The Chain of Command Tried to Stifle the Story’
Last November, a group of U.S. Marines apparently went on “the worst rampage by U.S. service members in the Iraq war, killing as many as 24 civilians in cold blood.” Today on ABC, Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) said that U.S. officials learned of the alleged massacre in Haditha “a few days” after it happened and organized a cover-up:
MURTHA: This is what the Marine Corps told me at the highest level. The Commandant of the Marine Corps was in my office just last week, so you know. I know there was a cover-up someplace. They knew about this a few days afterwards and there’s no question the chain of command tried to stifle the story. I can understand why, but that doesn’t excuse it. Something like this has to be brought out to the public, and the people have to be punished.
Murtha was also asked whether he thought the alleged massacre would have been made public if not for the Time magazine investigation published in March (read Time’s new follow-up report) His response: “No, I do not think it would have come out, and it’s unfortunate because this is how you lose the Iraqi people.”
Full transcript below:
GIBSON: I heard you tell George Stephanopoulos on Sunday that you believe this is murder, followed by a cover-up and I’ve heard you also say that what happened is well-known in Marine circles. Why are you so sure it was murder?
MURTHA: Charles, I started hearing about this probably right before the Time Magazine article and then I heard officially about it about two months ago. And there’s no question in my mind, when they pay people, as they did right after the incident – a team went into to investigate this immediately afterward. I mean it breaks my heart to think that Marines would do this. Hopefully, this is an isolated incident. But, you know, we’re supposed to be selling ideas of America, ideals of America, and we’re losing that war.
The reason we’ve lost the hearts and mind is these troops are under tremendous stress. Day after day these explosive devices go off, and if they don’t kill them that day, they hurt somebody, they wound somebody. And I see them at the hospitals. I see – they don’t know who the enemy is, they don’t know who they’re fighting, Iraq – and then they kill innocent people. There’s no question in my mind about what happened here. There was no gunfire. They killed four people in a taxi and then in addition to that, they went into the rooms and killed them. And I don’t know how many were involved in it, but it’s something that we cannot excuse. I can understand it, but it can’t be excused.
GIBSON: Jonathan just mentioned, there’s no charges yet filed against any of the Marines that were in this outfit, but Jonathan mentioned a moment ago, defense lawyers are already saying, well, there’s drone video and there is actual radio traffic to higher-ups that will give a different picture than you have been talking about of this incident. What do you know about that?
MURTHA: I can only tell you this, Charles. This is what the Marine Corps told me at the highest level. The Commandant of the Marine Corps was in my office just last week, so you know, I know there was a cover-up someplace. They knew about this a few days afterwards and there’s no question the chain of command tried to stifle the story. I can understand why, but that doesn’t excuse it. Something like this has to be brought out to the public, and the people have to be punished.
GIBSON: The commandant told you that this was a case of murder?
MURTHA: Charlie, don’t mince words here. The commandant said it was a very serious incident. He was not going to tell me it was murder, but everything looked to him just like it looks to me. He didn’t say that in so many words, but he told me exactly what happened.
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GIBSON: In terms of a cover-up, do you think this ever would have come to light if Time Magazine hadn’t pursued this so relentlessly using the video form this human rights organization?
MURTHA: No, I do not think it would have come out, and it’s unfortunate because this is how you lose the Iraqi people. If you’re going to win a war like this, you got to promote the ideals and ideas of American democracy, and there’s no question in my mind that we’re losing it.
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And here come the trolls to attack a decorated war veteran for tellin gthe truth.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:13 pmCome on trolls, come here to tell us how Haditha never happened, that the whole thing is a leftist conspiracy to smear the troops, and Murtha is nothing but a hack.
The US needs to get out of Iraq now, or more massacres will continue to happen.
Shame.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:25 pmIf you don’t think this completely obliterates any shred of trust the Iraqis
May 30th, 2006 at 7:28 pmmight have had in the US mission there, you’d better get your head out of your
ass. BTW, don’t be too shocked when the level of violence there escalates
right about… oh, now.
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May 30th, 2006 at 7:30 pmIt remains to be seen how thoroughly and effectively the Marines will investigate itself. The responsibility for this massacre does not lie with a few grunts, lieutenants, and captains. This is an indictment of those who put those troops in this position in the first place, which would place the blame squarely upon Rumsfeld and Bush. Those two, for starters, are the ones who should be tried in The Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity. The United States should remember that Justice Robert Jackson, the UnitedStates prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials, said that no country and no individual should be exempt from being held accountable for atrocities that are commited during war time, and that should mean that, at least theoretically, the United States should not be thought of as being above the law.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:30 pmDoesn’t Murtha know that the military establishment will not tolerate this kind of badmouthing. So some innocent poeple got massacred, what’s the big deal, it happens in war. Murtha needs to shut up and stop undermining our efforts in Iraq.
Sarcasm off now-
May 30th, 2006 at 7:32 pmI remember a little three line story on this on the fifteenth page, below the fold, back in November…then silence. So, in order for a common citizen to know the facts, evidently one would have to circumvent the military, hope a no-spin media outlet reports it, and then, never repeat the story on the phone. A country of laws…yeah, right.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:36 pmIraq is indeed a lot like Vietnam since our troops usually can’t determine who’s a filthy Arab terrorist and who’s a harmless civilian (if there is such a thing over there). In a case like that, you sometimes have to shoot FIRST or watch more of your buddies die or lose arms, eyes, hands, legs, faces, etc. I’d rather see Arabs die instead of my boys in uniform get tagged, so what’s the beef about Haditha? Most of these Arabs hate us anyway, so who cares if some of them get popped? Most of you wimps who make comments here, never had the essential, big, round ones it takes to wear a military uniform, so your comments are neutered and meaningless.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:36 pmArmy Ranger Pat Tillman
May 30th, 2006 at 7:37 pmYes, the punishment will fall on the enlisted men who were involved; but the full punishment and responsibility should fall on Bush and Rumsfeld. Bush for his illegal and unwarranted war in the first place and Rumsfeld for his stop loss program of returning GIs to the battle for multiple tours.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:39 pmI read a particularly gruesome accounting of the event today, as well as the effect it had on one of the Marines who arrived in the aftermath and has since returned to California.
In the heat of battle anyone can “snap” but in the cold situation room with Rumsfeld and Bush there is different circumstance.
I just saw the video of the house that they took afterwords.
My God. They shot those little kids in the head. Point blank range. Blood spattered to the ceiling.
Goddamn them to hell.
Goddamn Bush to hell.
Goddamn us all.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:39 pmI can’t believe #8 is for real. If he is, I hope he doesn’t represent America in any way.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:42 pmHow about we wait until they release the report of the investigation that Murtha is referring to? Someone killed 15-24 people, that’s for sure. The facts surrounding the event are still not clear, and I await the military’s final report on the issue instead of Murtha presenting what will for all intents and purposes be an incomplete picture of what happened.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:42 pmf you don’t think this completely obliterates any shred of trust the Iraqis
might have had in the US mission there, you’d better get your head out of your
ass. BTW, don’t be too shocked when the level of violence there escalates
right about… oh, now.
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As if the Abu Ghraib Photos helped, As if the Renditions helped? As if the Yellowcake Lies Helped? As if Aegis Mercenaries Helped?
As if the Mohammad Cartoons Helped? As bombing innocent people has helped? Lying to the World helped?
Its amazing that Bush Trolls even try to blame one person. The Biggest mess maker, the biggest screw up of all is still Don Rumsfeld Bush and Cheney and the PNAC Likudian Wackos of Kagan, Perle, Murdoch…..
May 30th, 2006 at 7:43 pm#
How about we wait until they release the report of the investigation that Murtha is referring to? Someone killed 15-24 people, that’s for sure. The facts surrounding the event are still not clear, and I await the military’s final report on the issue instead of Murtha presenting what will for all intents and purposes be an incomplete picture of what happened.
Comment by Seixon — May 30, 2006 @ 7:42 pm
The Soldiers took pictures, one of them on his cell phone camera. Why are you still here Seixon? Get your damn ass down to the recruiting office, NOW.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:45 pmJoe McCarthy whats the big deal?
How about the murder of childern ages 10..7..5..3..2…
that would be 5 BIG deals…
US Marines shooting children in cold blood……
May 30th, 2006 at 7:46 pmThe masacre in Haditha is the direct result of a disfunctional military.
Our military to this day does not know who the enemy is. Our soldiers are spoon fed propaganda and therefore are clueless as to what their mission is. Our soldiers have been lied to so many times they don’t know what to believe anymore.
Our soldiers are worn out and unhealthy. Their mental state has become that of a jello mold.
Of course, our soldiers killed a bunch of innocent Iraqi’s. Thats what they do, every day. They take orders from Dumbsfeld and other various murdering morons.
Our soldiers kill, some enjoy it and others don’t. Some are fit to be soldiers and others are not.
Recruiters are now trolling the mental institutions, it is going to get worse not better.
I’ll sign this, NOT PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN AT THIS TIME
May 30th, 2006 at 7:49 pmBetter watch your foul mouth Worpus. God doesn’t like to have His name taken in vain by fools.
And before you wet your diapers over some wasted Arabs, just remember, those same Arabs would have cut your throat, burned your corpse and hung you from a bridge.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:50 pmSo, Joe McCarthy, I ask you aagin.
If you hate Arabs so much, then why do you want to spread democracy in their country? If they are all bad, why not let Saddam conitinue torturing and killing them? Wouldn’t it have been cheaper to let Saddam do all the murdering?
May 30th, 2006 at 7:52 pmSexion you can wait for hell to freeze over…it won’t change the fact that US Marines shot children in cold blood..and those Marines might have to face murder charges..which will makje this story bigger than Abu Ghraib was…
May 30th, 2006 at 7:52 pmIt’s funny that the Right doesn’t want to see images of flag draped coffins, and images of dead children, and does not want to see Abu Graib photos. But at the same time want the results of the “military investigation” of itself, before making any judgements.
Seixon, you need to look at the pics and videos of whats happening.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:53 pmWhats really frigtening is how many times has this happened already???
Now that we KNOW the military chain of command covered this one up, how many of these other massacres that we’ve read about over the last few years are by our own soldiers? Remember there have been lots of massacres where they blame of course the insurgents, like they tried to do here.
What are the chances that this event was the ONLY one? What is the likelyhood that the ONLY time it happens we just happen to uncover it?
Chances are where theres one rat, theres a lot more.
This needs to stop NOW.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:55 pmMister Joe Mcarthy,
You defend God, and in the same breath discuss another human as being a “wasted Arab”. I wonder what God really thinks of all this?
I will waste an Arab when I see him coming my way with a sabre to cut my head off. Until then, everyone gets to live.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:56 pmArab tykes grow up to be Arab terrorists who cut throats and behead people, so I just can’t get too ‘bummed’ over some wasted Arabs. I see Iraq as a cursed Muslim land that deserves whatever it gets. Islam is no different from Nazism, and I say “Drop a few big nukes on Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the Palestinians and every other dirty Muslim land where they who hike their butts in the air to Allah-the-moon-god.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:57 pmHaditha was the result of having to take the same town over and over again. In August,the latest operation began and it was there that the 6 Marine snipers were killed and at least one’s body was abused and outside Haditha was where 14 Marines,most from Ohio,were killed in a single incident.Their AAV was hit by an IED. The motivation is certainly not an excuse,but since Time published the story,briefings have occurred and the investigation continues. It seems unlikely the Marine Corps won’t come forth with an indictment of some of the soldiers.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:57 pmWhy there won’t be an indictment of Rumsfeld’s strategy is beyond me.
Who said I ‘wanted to spread democracy in Iraq?’ I want to spread A-Bombs in Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria and in all Mohammeden lands.
May 30th, 2006 at 7:59 pmSo, Joe McCarthy, I ask you aagin.
If you hate Arabs so much, then why do you want to spread democracy in their country? If they are all bad, why not let Saddam conitinue torturing and killing them? Wouldn’t it have been cheaper to let Saddam do all the murdering?
Chicken Hawk.
Bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk
May 30th, 2006 at 7:59 pmSo the Joe McCarthy, you admit we are only there for oil?
I am sorry, you are a man that can stand behid what he believes in.
Killing Arabs for oil. Good job.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:01 pm#19 Spudge Boy,
Good one, We know he can’t answer your question so we’ll just leave him alone to conjure up his loving image of Osama Bin Ladens sphincter.
LIck, lick Joe!
May 30th, 2006 at 8:01 pmFor those that hadn’t figured it out Joe McCarthy = I-RIGHT-I. That stinky fool fills any room with the smell of toilets.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:01 pmHey Joe.
You worship God?
You think an American baby is worth more in the eyes of that God than a Iraqi baby?
He doesn’t. The Bible you idiots are always thumpin says they’re both equal.
But you want to know whose not worth a steaming pile of horse manure to God? You want to see this pathetic wretch?
Just look in the mirror.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:02 pmThe situation around the investigation is bad enough for the commandant of the marine Corps to change his schedule..go to Iraq to tell the Marines that ..killing innocent women and children is not what Marines do..obviously he believes it is bad…and JOE he probably would think your not fit to be a Marine with your attitude…
May 30th, 2006 at 8:03 pmSorry to inform you Not For Truth, but my God is NOT the god that the Mohammedens bow to. And in your spare time you should try reading the Good Book cause even God recognizes the value of killing off pagans and godless scum.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:03 pmHi Ryan!
Actually, I was leaning towards Joe McCarthy being ANVILHEAD.
ANVILHEAD used to link his name to http://zero/
Joe McCarthy has his linked to http://na/
And they are both dumb as rocks.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:04 pmOn my worst day I know more about the Bible then you do on your best dimwit.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:05 pmOh, I get it. Joe is one of the mantal cases that the recruiters are buzzing around.
Like I said in an earlier post. Some are not fit to be soldiers.
Just keep licking Bin Laden Joe, I’m sure Bubble boy has a medal for that.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:06 pmBut thanks for proving one thing.
That the conservatives who follow Bush are truly co-equal with the Nazis, in every way.
You are a Nazi pig, and you are the enemy to us all.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:06 pmYes, the old fashion old testament God. So, does that mean you prepare lambs as sacrifices also? Does that mean you have more than one wife, think the earth is flat, think selling your daughter into slavery is okay? I know more about the bible in my little finger than you know about any subject.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:08 pmJoe someday you too will be able to explain your comments to GOD about the cold blooded murder of helpless children by US trained and equiped milkitary units. But do continue to bloviate your hatered for everything not like you…Jesus would be Sooo disappointed…wait he’ll probably tell you that just before he stands by your side to speak to his father on your behalf
May 30th, 2006 at 8:09 pmTo Worfus-the-Warlock, I say: Never use the Bible as a means to attack others when you don’t accept the Bible anyway as God’s word. That makes you look ’slow-minded.’ By doing so, you cancel out your own warped opinion by citing from a book that you don’t believe in anyway.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:09 pmFirst put taxes on students and workers, then take out poor white, black and latin kids from their homes, let them believe we all live under great danger, tell them they are making “safer” their country and a better world, full of democracy (along with masses of hungry, ignorant people), give them guns, let them play with tanks, choppers and jets, take them to war…then you have a nice massacre.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:10 pmWell, folks. We have lost touch with this one. He went the way of “I know you are but what am I” Talk about slow minded.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:11 pmHey Joeee-
May 30th, 2006 at 8:12 pmYou have quite a bit in common with Muslims-you all believe in fairy tales…and you use your fairy tales to justify killing, nice very nice..
This Joe McCarthy person has got to be somebody just trying to push people’s buttons here, right? Please tell me people aren’t this ignorant.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:13 pmBTW, If WORFEUS gets to be a Warlock, I get to be Spudge_Boy the Sorceror. Okay?
May 30th, 2006 at 8:13 pmHey Ryan-how do you justify Leviticus (stoning to death for a variety of stupid reasons)
May 30th, 2006 at 8:14 pmThat is the definition of Internet troll. I am a PR person and International Marketing Manger for a global technology company and I have NEVER heard anybody like these trolls ever. And I have been to and talk to people in red states all the time. These trolls are either 1) retarded and don’t know it or 2) are paid to do this.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:16 pmSorry to inform you Not For Truth, but my God is NOT the god that the Mohammedens bow to. And in your spare time you should try reading the Good Book cause even God recognizes the value of killing off pagans and godless scum.
Comment by Joe McCarthy — May 30, 2006 @ 8:03 pm
Which pagans did Jesus kill again?
Your God is such a warrior God that he let the pagans nail him to a plank… really tough God you got there.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:16 pmThis is the end.
It’s all over.
Not with the Shock and Awe masturbation binge, but the the cries and wimpers of innocent children murdered by absolute corruption.
It’s over. Tie aYellow ribbon, takea souveiner photo with your cellphone, or stick a fork in it.
BTW Joe, God called, he does not want your soul back. He said something about the “skidmarks”
May 30th, 2006 at 8:16 pmRyan is not a Christian, so he doesn’t justify any of it.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:17 pmI actually think JM is I-Right-I too. I don’t care if he is trying to antagonize us. It does spice it up.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:17 pmOk, let’s have a quick Bible class: The Holy God of the Bible is NOT the god of the Koran no matter how duped your little minds have become. Those of you who ‘think’ the two are the same are probably beyond salvaging anyway so I won’t waste time arguing with imbeciles. If you ‘bright ones’ had ever read the Bible and the Koran it would be apparent that the characteristics of God and Allah were universes apart.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:17 pmTo Worfus-the-Warlock, I say: Never use the Bible as a means to attack others when you don’t accept the Bible anyway as God’s word. That makes you look ’slow-minded.’ By doing so, you cancel out your own warped opinion by citing from a book that you don’t believe in anyway.
Comment by Joe McCarthy — May 30, 2006 @ 8:09 pm
Like Matthew 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to them.
5:4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
5:5 “Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
5:6 “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied.
5:7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
5:8 “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
5:9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God.
5:10 “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to them.
5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you and say all kinds of evil things about you falsely on account of me. 5:12 Rejoice and be glad because your reward is great in heaven, for they persecuted the prophets before you in the same way.
or Matthew 5:21 “You have heard that it was said to an older generation, ‘Do not murder,’ and ‘whoever murders will be subjected to judgment.’ 5:22 But I say to you that anyone who is angry with a brother will be subjected to judgment. And whoever insults a brother will be brought before the council, and whoever says ‘Fool’ will be sent to fiery hell.
And especially this one… Matthew 5:43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’ and ‘hate your enemy.’ 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you, 5:45 so that you may be like your Father in heaven, since he causes the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 5:46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Even the tax collectors do the same, don’t they? 5:47 And if you only greet your brothers, what more do you do? Even the Gentiles do the same, don’t they? 5:48 So then, be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Seems youy have a wee bit of learning to live up to the expectations of Jesus don’t ya Joey boy….
May 30th, 2006 at 8:19 pmI bet Joe Mc Carthy cant get an erection from years. He seems so uptight.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:19 pmHere’s the deal on the Bible folks, in my very humble opinion.
People forget that it is the word of god as told by man. As such, it contains mistakes and inconsistencies. Yes, I’m saying there are mistakes in the Bible, as well as misinterpretations. Why? Because man is flawed.
Faith is what’s required to believe that at its essence it is still the word of God. But it should not be taken literally.
The fact of the matter is that were it written these days, the errors and inconsistencies would probably be obvious to everyone. That wouldn’t necessarily stop Christianity from developing though.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:21 pmSo, we get your position there, but answer this Joe. Is the Christian and Jewish God the same?
May 30th, 2006 at 8:25 pmJoe.
You call me a sorcerer. In this thou speakest well. But do you think because you believe ye are in someway saved?
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
James 2:19
May 30th, 2006 at 8:25 pmJesus was and IS concerned about the personal salvation of sinners. Most of you sillies of course have rejected Him and mock Him and His word, and you will die in your sins and perish in eternal separation from Him. Most of you don’t want anything to do with Him and so He’s going to eventually put you in a place where you won’t have to be ‘bothered’ by Him. I like that idea.
Muslims essentially bow to Satan, and reject Jesus as Lord and Savior, and so they will have their place in Hades as well.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:26 pmBut if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors
James 2:9
May 30th, 2006 at 8:27 pmYeah yeah yeah, now
So, we get your position there, but answer this Joe. Is the Christian and Jewish God the same?
May 30th, 2006 at 8:27 pmInteresting that Jesus is and you aren’t. Seems to me that you aren’t following his teachings either.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:29 pm“For there is no respect of persons with God,”
Romans 2:11
May 30th, 2006 at 8:29 pmWow, this Joe really bought the whole package…Joe: why dont you chop some wood and make your own ark?
May 30th, 2006 at 8:31 pmJews and Christians worship the same God. Jews, however, deny that Jesus was the Messiah and the Son of God. The Trinity is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. In the OT, there are many verses where God is having a discusion and He refers to “We.” The Trinity is something of a mystery but then again–why should we mere mortals think that we can fully understand or explain God. He is the Potter, we are the pottery. Is the pottery greater than the Potter?
May 30th, 2006 at 8:31 pmBut we are forgetting about Haditha, boys. Besides, if there was a God, what was he doing while kids were having their heads blown?
May 30th, 2006 at 8:33 pmSpudge this clown isn’t even close to even grasping Jesus’ teachings.
His arguments are pharisical at best, and like Jesus told the Pharisees and Saducees, while the worried about tidbits while women and children starved in the streets,
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Matthew 23:23-24
May 30th, 2006 at 8:34 pmOk, let’s have a quick Bible class: The Holy God of the Bible is NOT the god of the Koran no matter how duped your little minds have become.
Comment by Joe McCarthy — May 30, 2006 @ 8:17 pm
Actually they are Mr. Bible scholar.
Abraham (the person who had the original covenant with God) had two kids Isaac and Ishmael. Isaac’s followers and descendants became the Jews (like Jesus… (same God as Christians)) and Ishmael’s followers became Islamist.
One Man… two sons… three religions… one God!
Maybe if you read the Bible you would already know this?
May 30th, 2006 at 8:35 pmOkay Joe. Now a little bible lesson for you. The Jews think that Jesus was a prophet. Just the way the Muslims think that Muhamed was a prophet.
So, why do you hate Muslims more than Jews?
Oh that’s right, because Jesus wasn’t a Christian. He was a Jew.
So, no real good reason other than the fact that you are uneduacated.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:36 pmJoe how about judge not lest ye be judged…seems you have done a bit of internet judging…like a certain senator doctor we know of…
May 30th, 2006 at 8:36 pmThe Bible says that most of mankind won’t make it into heaven. That means that many of you on this forum will perish. Only those who enter by the “narrow gate” will be saved while those of you who follow the “broad path” to “destruction” will perish in torment. That “narrow gate” is the acceptance and belief in Jesus Christ ALONE and the admission to Him that you are a filthy sinful man or woman in need of Him. “I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but through me” are His words. Sorry multiculturalists, but belief in Allah, Mohammed, Zeus, Buddha and other false teachers will only get you a one-way ticket to Hades.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:38 pmJesus was not just a Jew. He was a Rabbi. Hard for so called Christians like our buddy Tail-Gunner Joe, but he was as kosher as a Cod.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:39 pmLooks like Matthew had you all figured out JoeMcMurder.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones,
Matthew 23:27
May 30th, 2006 at 8:43 pmFrickin’ classic.
Why would god say in Genisis that he created man in his own image and we end up with what we have. Are we supposed to believe there is a giant human male shaped creature floating around in space? Heh.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:43 pmI stand with Murtha. No one is perfect and mistakes do happen. The truth never hurt anyone and will always sets us free. As difficult as it may be that once the truth is finally embraced, most of the insanity automatically falls to the wayside and soon, everything that’s orderly and just will start to fall in line, just as it’s supposed to.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:43 pmSee, let me explain something to about the man Jesus, whom you claim to worship.
He despised your kind. Not disliked, not disdained, but despised. Jesus taught you to harm no man, no woman, and especially no child.
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
Luke 17:2
May 30th, 2006 at 8:49 pmYe serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:53 pmSorry scoffers, but if you die in your sins and failed to accept Jesus Christ as Savior, your destination will be eternal torment. No exceptions. “And those whose names were not found written in the Book of Life were cast into the lake of fire.” Remember that verse scoffers, cause it applies to many of you.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:54 pmProgs are THRILLED when the military is involved in unauthorized killing – but of course they have NEVER been in a position to know what young Marines go through. Unlike your daddys’ and grampas’ War, this enemy wears no uniform and blends in with the local population. Most Viet Nam vets NEVER witnessed the atrocities John Kerry so movingly re-counted to Congress (was that before or after he threw his medals or flushed his ribbons?) My Lai was investigated and adjudicated. There are bad apples in every orchard. Enter John Murtha. This “former” Marine has been on a “cut and run” mission since Somalia when he pressured President Clinton to abandon Somalis to the war lords responsible for starving the population. “Cut and Run Murtha” is consistent, to say the least.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:56 pmWhy quote verses Worpeous? You reject Jesus, so why quote His word? Trying to assuage your sinful conscience by attacking me won’t save you.
May 30th, 2006 at 8:57 pmJoe McMurder
You are so wrong. Just plain wrong. You don’t know the bible. Peter dealt with this very issue in the Acts of the Apostles.
“Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him“
ACTS 10:34-35
May 30th, 2006 at 9:01 pmmighty aphrodite,
Stop trying to change the topic of this thread. Your meat puppet friend Joe McCarthy already did.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:03 pmWho said I “reject” Jesus.
Just because I don’t take Jello to my neighbors on Sunday, or wear a funny hats with a long robe and a purple cumberbun, or toss my hands up in one of your idiotic meetings and speak in some form of incoherent babble, does that mean I have to reject him?
May 30th, 2006 at 9:04 pmMurtha doesn’t know half of what he thinks he knows.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:09 pmThe Soldiers took pictures, one of them on his cell phone camera. Why are you still here Seixon? Get your damn ass down to the recruiting office, NOW.
Uh, what? I don’t follow.
Seixon, you need to look at the pics and videos of whats happening.
Have they already been released? I haven’t seen them anywhere.
So you trust a military that’s already been proven to have tried to coverup this event to tell the truth? Well I guess gullibility and a lack of understanding of basic human nature sure explains why you believe the republican propaganda.
Did you just get home from the broad brush store? Some members of the military, particularly those involved, sought to cover up what they did. That’s what one would usually expect from someone who has just committed a crime. Yet you fail to see that the only reason Murth is on TV right now talking about this is precisely because the military has conducted an investigation of those soldiers who did this, and those who tried to cover it up.
So yes, I trust the military that is investigating the crimes of its own to tell the truth. Apparently you do too, since what you’re hearing is coming from that very investigation.
Hilarious.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:11 pmProgs are THRILLED when the military is involved in unauthorized killing -
Comment by notso-mighty aphroditeâ€
Yea, we were all just thrilled. The blood on the ceiling, I think that was the highlight for me.
Or maybe it was the little childs body rolled up in the carpet.
That was really thrilling too.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:12 pmMurtha doesn’t know half of what he thinks he knows.
Comment by David Drake — May 30, 2006 @ 9:09 pm
Since HE(murtha) sits and talks with Officers including the Commandant of the Marine Corps and the other JCS…he knows a hell of a lot more than you do……
May 30th, 2006 at 9:12 pmI just saw the video of the house that they took afterwords.
My God. They shot those little kids in the head. Point blank range. Blood spattered to the ceiling.
Goddamn them to hell.
Goddamn Bush to hell.
Goddamn us all.
Comment by worfeus — May 30, 2006 @ 7:39 pm
Hey, check out the Clinton-Reno fiasco of the Branch Davidians – Waco, Texas. Why, Clinton-Reno had their jackbooted thugs slaughter Americans on our own land! That outta make you Goddman Clinton to hell then right, using your same reasoning.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:13 pmIf you or the legion you bring with you had half a brain combined between the lot of you, you might actually be dangerous.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:14 pmSexion in case you truly in Norway Murtha has been looking into this for a few months now..the story has been on the net for at least three months I know of…and as a sitting US congressman who has years of expierence in the military as a Marine he might have reasons of the good of the country and Marine Corps on his mind…and before you say it..covering up crimes does no one any good but the criminals that commit them
May 30th, 2006 at 9:17 pmBrilliant, just Brilliant.
David Duke is it?
Listen up Einstein. While you might think its ok to drag something that happened in the last decade up to condone the wholesale slaughter of innocent men, women and Children, its not even comprable.
If you can’t tell the difference between going in to arrest some people, and having it escalate to where THEY lit the fires, and shooting a 3 year old girl in the head, then you’re just another of the Volksturm that needs taking care of.
Just more trash to take out.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:18 pmThis Joe McCarthy is like the other one. A loud-mouthed ignorant bigotted idiot.
Joe, why don’t you tune in to some other radio stations? The idiotic conservanazi propaganda you are full really shows just how friggin’ stupid you are.
Remember this, conservanazi republikans like Joe, are subtly racist and overtly anti-feminist, anti-freedom, pro-nazi, anti-democracy jokers.
If you hate Iraq and all other Muslim countries, why aren’t you over there fighting for your fearless leader, gwbu$h, the ANG DESERTER.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:19 pmI hope that these Marines aren’t demonized too much. This episode looks like a symptom, not the disease.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:22 pmHey, check out the Clinton-Reno fiasco of the Branch Davidians – Waco, Texas. Why, Clinton-Reno had their jackbooted thugs slaughter Americans on our own land! That outta make you Goddman Clinton to hell then right, using your same reasoning.
Comment by David Drake — May 30, 2006 @ 9:13 pm
That raid was initially planned during the Bush 43 watch and the raid occured On February 28, 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) raided Mount Carmel, resulting in the deaths of four agents and six Davidians. Janet Reno took office March 11, 1993, thus the situation was already out of control BEFORE she got there..hate to burst your bubble but it was not her idea nor clintons..either.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:25 pmSorry Warpeous but this verse,
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
is Jesus warning adults who attempt to prevent His Gospel from being taught to children.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:25 pmAnother good conservanazi republikan tactic is to blame the most powerful political family in the whole wide world, the Clintons, for bu$h’s incompetence.
Typical for the conservanazis:
Everything changed after 9/11.
Well, under the Clinton’s…………
gwbu$h abandoned Americans in New Orleans,…………. But the Clintons did it!
gwbu$h deserted the Air National Guard, …………. but Clinton didn’t.
Just listen when the bu$h bunch gets caught lying, or just showing their sincere desires to do something illegal and they will bring up the Clintons. Like that’s something to make up for the total incompetence of the bu$h regime.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:25 pmLet’s see here , they lied about what happened to Jessica Lynch , then we find out they lied about Tillman , now we’re supposed to believe they would’nt lie about this . Where there is a pile of dirt there usually something buried .
May 30th, 2006 at 9:26 pmOh, yeah. The conservanazi republikans are the only ones who can be the ‘real’ christians and the ‘real’ Americans. or amerikans. Sieg heil, bu$h!
Jesus Christ himself wouldn’t associate with any of the phony conservanazi christian hypocrites.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:29 pmThe problem is that none of the “republican/conservative” trolls that visit here are either republican or conservative. Nor are they Christians either. They are Neo-Cons. They only use religion and politics as a tool to control the masses of no-thinking morons out there. I swear, one day Bush’s vampire fangs are going to pop out on national TV and the US of A will wake up to the fact that the country is being bled dry by these leeches.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:33 pmSorry Warpeous but this verse,
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
is Jesus warning adults who attempt to prevent His Gospel from being taught to children.
Comment by Joe McMurder — May 30, 2006 @ 9:25 pm
Nice try. While that does seem to be the intent, I strongly suggest you invest in an english translation of the Masoretic Text, as well as a copy of the Codex Vaticanus with Scribes notes. (The Codex is a bit pricy, about 2600 bucks, give or take).
You will find the words, “who believe in me” were added as scribes notes, probably to encourage believers.
Jesus was just saying don’t f#$$k with the kids.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:36 pmreligious extremists refusing to exit a burning building as slaughtering people? You shouldn’t lecture others on using reasoning when you refuse to do so yourself.
Religious extremists? Why, do you even know what/who that is?
Comment by worfeus:
David Duke is it?
Wow, make fun of someone’s name when all else fails. Typical liberal attack when you cannot make any other lucid arugument. I’m not surprised.
Listen up Einstein. While you might think its ok to drag something that happened in the last decade up to condone the wholesale slaughter of innocent men, women and Children, its not even comprable.
??
If you can’t tell the difference between going in to arrest some people, and having it escalate to where THEY lit the fires, and shooting a 3 year old girl in the head, then you’re just another of the Volksturm that needs taking care of.
Just more trash to take out.
I don’t know what you mean by “comprable”, there, you Einstein spelling genius. If you mean comparable, of course they are comparable and to deny it is to show your ignorance.
You haven’t studied what happened to the Davidians much, have you – it shows in your writing.
If something a decade old doesn’t matter, then why do so many liberals bring up and compare Iraq to Vietnam? According to your (stupid) logic, we should forget about Vietnam. And Korea, WW2 etc etc because “they’re a decade old.”
Your ignorance speaks volumes, and all of it out of your arse.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:36 pmYeah, the neo-cons will pull a Maz Cleland for sure. Even the military has acknowledged that this massacre happened, though they covered it up for months. So why is Hannity blaming the media tonight for “alledging that U.S. soldiers are murderers”. THAT IS WHAT THE U.S MILITARY IS SAYING TOO. IT IS THE TRUTH. HELLOOOOO SEAN.
Why is everything a “liberal media conspiracy”?
http://www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
The dirt on Henry Paulson:
Only on LCL
http://www.sunstateactivist.org
May 30th, 2006 at 9:36 pmMore U.S. troops in Iraq? What, they want to murder the whole country? And what about a withdrawl?: Give us your opinion.
Right now on SSA
Or if you’re Catholic, then, feed the children don’t f#$$k the Children.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:38 pmLV of R,
I almost forgot about Jessica Lynch, the only US Soldier injured in Iraq, successfully rescued by a team of 150k Special Forces Sniper Marine Rangers with the blessing of gwbu$h, Jesus Christ’s annointed leader of the new conservanazi US of A.
The bu$h regime lied about:
WMD’s
Al Qaeda in Iraq
Saddam Hussien’s support of Al Qaeda (a big fat conservanazi lie)
Jessica Lynch and her accident
Pat Tillman (probably killed by friendly fire)
SPYing on Americans (not terrorists, but political opponents)
Cheney shooting a hunting partner (he was drunk at the time)
Rescuing Americans in New Orleans (bu$h figured since most of them were poor and black no body cared about them, so he didn’t)
Jack Abramoff
With the bu$h buch, it goes on and on and on……………………….. then they blame the Clintons.
I hope the bu$h regime wakes up some day and figures out that the Clintons have not been in the White House for over 5 years. Americans realize that, but the true believer conservanazi republikans can’t understand that……….. well, the Clintons did……………………………….. whaterver
May 30th, 2006 at 9:38 pmHaditha x 100 = Fallujah
calculated and cowardly
May 30th, 2006 at 9:39 pmAs much as you’d like to turn this into a discussion on the Davidians, you’re not. So get over it troll.
And as for my spelling, sorry I don’t use a spell checker, but if your pathetic right wing mellon has nothing left but grammatical errors, then all I can say is, NEXT.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:41 pmSpudge Bush could kill a baby on national tv and the churchy right wingers would still support him just by saying it was the liberal media of the baby was Al Kieda . His flock is brainless zombies with pride and ego to big to give up to the fact that they sold their soul to the devil for corporate interest .
May 30th, 2006 at 9:43 pmDavid Duke said;
If something a decade old doesn’t matter, then why do so many liberals bring up and compare Iraq to Vietnam? According to your (stupid) logic, we should forget about Vietnam. And Korea, WW2 etc etc because “they’re a decade old.â€
Once more, if you can’t see the difference in comparing historical events with current events to AVOID THE SAME PITFALLS, and USING THEM TO CONDONE MURDER, then you are too far gone to save.
I suggest a ballbat to the side of your head might jar something loose however. You should try that.
Give that a try, and let me know how that works out for you.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:44 pmListen Up Hypocrites!
When Jesus is holding you to account for your rejection of Him, your Bible-quoting here will be used as evidence against you in His trial and conviction against you, and your own free will choice to reject His word and Him, which will result in your own choice to perish in eternal damnation and separation from Him.
Btw, I’m not a supporter in any way of GWBush, the neocons or any party neither GOP or Democrats. The Kingdom government I’m waiting for and believe in isn’t manmade or from the human dimension and ONLY One can bring it to fruition.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:46 pmYour ignorance speaks volumes, and all of it out of your arse.
Comment by David Drake — May 30, 2006 @ 9:36 pm
As does yopurs not knowing that the initialk raid took place before Janet reno even took office and the entire operation was begun..planned and equiped while Bush41 was president..just had to make a Clinton did it too comment on a thread about US Marines shooting little 2-3 year old children along with many others with out any justification…….no legal warrent no major gun battle by the adults around them either, ….can not accwept this war is spinning way out of control..like most everything Bush has ever touched.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:46 pmPlease explain HOW “Cut and Run” Murtha knows the “innocent civilians” from the collaborators? He acts like he knows the facts but is relying on supposition. My favourite “tidbit” of common sense was from the governor in Kandahar Afghanistan. After pin-point bombing killed Taliban/AlQueda members and some of their family and friends with whom they hiding, the governor gave this sage advice, “If you don’t want to be killed in raids and bombings DON’T hang out with the Taliban.” So simple – so true.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:47 pmJoe McMurdery said;
Listen Up Hypocrites!
When Jesus is holding you to account for your rejection of Him, your Bible-quoting here will be used as evidence against you in His trial and conviction against you, and your own free will choice to reject His word and Him, which will result in your own choice to perish in eternal damnation and separation from Him.
Yea?
Well guess we’ll see you at the Fish Fry, ay there slappy?
May 30th, 2006 at 9:49 pmThe Kingdom government I’m waiting for and believe in isn’t manmade or from the human dimension and ONLY One can bring it to fruition.
Comment by Joe McMurdery
Great. What can we do to help you get there?
May 30th, 2006 at 9:50 pm#135 – “Haditha x 100 = Fallujah calculated and cowardly”
Comment by Mr. Miller
*****My Dear Mr. Collaborator – Fallujah is lucky that their is a decency about the US military which allowed innocents to flee Fallujah. Many armies and commanders would have levelled that cess pool and sown salt – like the misunderstood barbarian Ghengis Khan.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:53 pmWell, Einstein, which is it? Does the study of the past help avoid pitfalls of the future or not? In one case you say Waco isn’t applicable to Haditha or Iraq and then you say “if you can’t see the difference in comparing historical events with current events to AVOID THE SAME PITFALLS, and USING THEM TO CONDONE MURDER.”
Could you split those hairs any closer?
One doesn’t need spell check to spell correctly. One needs to have paid attention if grade school and high school. Do you know what those are? Have you ever heard of them?
One needs a functioning brain to spell. Apparently you’ve hit yours one too many times with a “ballbat”. Oh wait, liberals are born with brain deficiency syndrome, aren’t they?
And no, I’m not trying to turn this into a Davidian discussion, but any objective or reasonable person would see the similarities. Anyone but you, that is.
Try and think beyond your own narrow, myopic view, if you can, and see the larger picture.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:54 pmDavid Drake or David Duke , they both sound alike , mabey Drake is a typo like comprble , that’s just like a neo -CON all they got are personal attacks , they just can’t stay on task.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:54 pmPlease explain HOW “Cut and Run†Murtha knows the “innocent civilians†from the collaborators?
Comment by NotSo-Mighty Aprhodite
Gee I don’t know, how about we start with 3 year old girls and 78 year old blind men in wheelchairs?
That works for me.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:55 pmLast post from jerky boy.
Let’s revisit his first post, in number 8.
“Iraq is indeed a lot like Vietnam since our troops usually can’t determine who’s a filthy Arab terrorist and who’s a harmless civilian (if there is such a thing over there). In a case like that, you sometimes have to shoot FIRST or watch more of your buddies die or lose arms, eyes, hands, legs, faces, etc. I’d rather see Arabs die instead of my boys in uniform get tagged, so what’s the beef about Haditha? Most of these Arabs hate us anyway, so who cares if some of them get popped? Most of you wimps who make comments here, never had the essential, big, round ones it takes to wear a military uniform, so your comments are neutered and meaningless.”
Yeah, we are the ones who need to be worried about doing God’s work.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:56 pmhow can someone who spews so much hate and intolerance gloat
May 30th, 2006 at 9:56 pmin the killing of INNOCENT children? And yet consider himself “saved”.
Joe would no doubt have been a good Nazi. Most of the Hitler followers
considered themselved “good” Christians. History does indeed repeat
itself. I wish Joe and his ilk get raptured allready!! No wonder I swore
off organized religion.
Blah blah blah
Comment by David Duke
May 30th, 2006 at 9:57 pmHey M A how do you even know what happened in Fullujah , there was a media gag , no reporters , come on get with it . Witnesses said there were civis laying dead everywhere .
May 30th, 2006 at 9:57 pmJoe would no doubt have been a good Nazi
Comment by daDonk
Good Nazi?
He’d make a GREAT Nazi.
May 30th, 2006 at 9:59 pmmighty is crazy as ever.
You can read in her post that she really wishes that the US military was as blood thirsty as the “misunderstood barbarian Ghengis Khan” She wants our military to kill anything that gets in our way, as Joe McCarthy points out in post number 8.
Yeah, you guys got Jesus’ back.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:00 pmI knew we were in trouble when I saw DoubleBarrel Dick on Meet the Press talking about how if we wanted to overcome evil we needed to adopt the tactics of the evildoers, and do business with “shady characters”.
I knew then we were screwed.
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May 30th, 2006 at 10:06 pmMighty maybe instead of decrying everything a sitting US congressman knows from actually talking to those who have looked into this…maybe you should pull hard down on your ears so your head can pop out of your rectum…and check out
1why did the general in charge of the marine division RELEAVE the company and battalion commander of the unit from which several Marines are charged with these crimes.
2 Why would the Commandant of the marine Corps changer his schedule and go to Iraq to reafirm that marines do not shoot inocent civilians..(his words)
3 Why would the Marines either be in the Brig..or restricted to base…given that the military does not imprison service members with out good justification…
4 Why would the Marine higher ups told other unit members clean up the area ..BUT get photo’s unless they hjad an idea that something was wrong…
think about what else is happening around this that does not directally link toi Congressman Murtha and his position on the Armed services committee and maybe he is doing something the repug congress can’t seem to do…OVERSIGHT…yes that is constitutionaly supposed to be part of their job…but the repugs seem to have forgotten it in the K street era…
May 30th, 2006 at 10:06 pmGuys give Joe a break he’s still recovering from the rattlesnake venom from last sundays services . Actually I’m surprised he’s on here and not at a soldiers funeral protesting . These are afterall the same people who loved Mel Gibsons version of Jesus getting pummeled to a bloody pulp , but yet upset over the Davinci Code .
May 30th, 2006 at 10:07 pmFallujah is lucky that their is a decency about the US military which allowed innocents to flee Fallujah.
Comment by NotSo-mighty aphrodite — May 30, 2006 @ 9:53 pm
Hey NoSo, just thought I’d let you know that your pal, David Duke, or Snake, or something like that, thinks you’re an idiot.
See, you said “their”, when you should have said, “there”.
I realize its a simple typo, and you probably didn’t even notice it with the rapid fire pace in here, but since your boy Dimwit Snake, or whatever his name is, says you are if you make a typo, so I guess you’re in the dummypit too.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:09 pmClif,
You are asking these chicken hawks to think like a military person. We both know that none of them have any experience. They have know idea what a field grade article 15 is, let alone a field grade article 32 is, which is what this falls under.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:09 pmUnderstood Spudge ……….
but given the severity of this story I will call out facts that any military member would recognize…………
like an article 38 investigation must have already have happened, otherwise nobody would be in the brig yet…………….
and the commander of the marine division does not relieve a captain and Lt Colonel with out cause…
May 30th, 2006 at 10:14 pmClif said
3 Why would the Marines either be in the Brig..or restricted to base…given that the military does not imprison service members with out good justification…
Thats the one I wondered about. I saw that on the news this evening, and it didn’t seem like the Military to do that to them unless they were pretty darn sure.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:16 pmAnd the Marines did not call Major Colin Powell to brush this one under a rug by writing an “official investigation” which later turned out to be basically a white wash..like he did in Vietnam for the My Lai incident
May 30th, 2006 at 10:18 pmLook no matter what they do with these marines it won’t change the facts . America will never win over the hearts of the Iraqis now , that is where the war is truely lost . I’m not saying that our brave fighters aren’t under alot of stress but we can’t give them a pass on this one . Which brings us to the fact that we shouldn’t be there and never should have .
May 30th, 2006 at 10:19 pmWorfeus for anybody who has spent time in the service there are tell tales like the marines in the brig…the Commandant’s trip to Iraq which means Rummy is not happy and wants this cleaned up better than Abu Ghraib…and the hide it under a rock did not work….
May 30th, 2006 at 10:21 pmTry and think beyond your own narrow, myopic view, if you can, and see the larger picture.
Comment by David Drake — May 30, 2006 @ 9:54 pm
Good advise for somebody trying to pass off WACO as Clinton-Reno inspired…try living your own words….and not blaming everything on Bill Clinton or Claiming his lies about a BLOWJOB is anywhere near as bad as Bush Lying us into this mess……
May 30th, 2006 at 10:24 pmWell, Einstein, which is it? Does the study of the past help avoid pitfalls of the future or not? In one case you say Waco isn’t applicable to Haditha or Iraq and then you say “if you can’t see the difference in comparing historical events with current events to AVOID THE SAME PITFALLS, and USING THEM TO CONDONE MURDER.â€
Comment by David Flake
Ahh, I see. Thats a little difficult for you to understand I guess.
Here. Let me see if I can put it any simpler.
if you can’t see the difference in comparing historical events with current events to AVOID THE SAME PITFALLS, and USING THEM TO CONDONE MURDER, then you’re TOO FAR GONE.
Nope. Guess not.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:29 pmClif WORFEUS,
Maybe you guys didn’t see this
This is from May 26, 2006
Official: Iraq Civilian Deaths Unjustified
http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?floc=FF-APO-1152&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20060526%2F1815131130.htm&sc=1152
WORFEUS, I don’t know if you served, sorry. Clif, I know you did. You know as well as I do that the military doesn’t mess around when it comes to this stuff. If people are in the brig, there is plenty of evidence against them. There is no need for a report to find out.
Also, Murtha isn’t saying anything new here. He is only repeating what has been said. That is why the trolls are out in force. They know there is no blocking this one.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:29 pmSpudge check this one out…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13038563/
and for thr trolls ;
Two Marines were severely traumatized after following orders to photograph corpses of unarmed Iraqi civilians that members of their unit are suspected of killing, their families said Monday.
The parents of Lance Cpl. Andrew Wright, 20, and Lance Cpl. Roel Ryan Briones, 21, both members of a Marine unit based at Camp Pendleton, said their sons were sent into the western Iraqi city of Haditha to help remove the bodies of as many as two dozen men, women and children who were shot.
the story goes on to describe what they had to do and what they are dealing with now…
May 30th, 2006 at 10:35 pmNo Spudge. I didn’t serve. Not one day.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:40 pmWell, Einstein, which is it? Does the study of the past help avoid pitfalls of the future or not? In one case you say Waco isn’t applicable to Haditha or Iraq and then you say “if you can’t see the difference in comparing historical events with current events to AVOID THE SAME PITFALLS, and USING THEM TO CONDONE MURDER.â€
Could you split those hairs any closer?
Comment by David Dork — May 30, 2006 @ 9:54 pm
Splitting hairs? Hmmmm. Lets see.
AVOID. A difficult verb to be sure.
Here are some suggested meanings from Roget’s Thesaurus ( A big book you use to find words that are like other words:).
Evade. Circumvent (Perhaps too polysyllabic?) Get Around. Shun. Dodge. Duck. Side Step. Escape
CONDONE. Another tough one.
Some more suggested meanings.
Excuse. Forgive. Overlook. Disregard. Ignore. Close the eyes to.
Clear it up any?
May 30th, 2006 at 10:43 pmSee, the first one is something a person does to keep something bad from happening.
The second one, is something a person does AFTER something bad has happened.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:46 pmWorfeus he has not answered how waco can be janet Reno’s fault because the initial raid went down in Feb of 93 and she did not take office until March 93…bbbbuuuttt it is always zClinton’s fault is their disclaimer……and this time it is ever laughable what contortions of time they must make to make that one stick….
May 30th, 2006 at 10:46 pmWaco was bad, and I was mad. But there is little to compare to what happened in Iraq, and he was just trying to say, see, Clinton killed some people so whats the problem?
Hes a fool.
He is just trying to use it to change the subject off what is going on RIGHT now.
I don’t believe this is the ONLY incident, and I don’t think it should go on any longer.
As an American, I am horrified and disgusted. I am sick of these pigs.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:53 pmTo the Progs, here. (the others are seemingly worhtless of discussing) The real issue here is that no soldier invading a country has the right to call himself or be called a hero, no matter how much Hollywood is trying to put that into your head. There is no way one should be called a hero after throwing twice!!! nukes over civilians. There is nothing brave in firing a rifle or throwing grenades…anyone can do that, ask Centroamerican kids. What is brave is to defend your country from your own government, to be a hard worker, to be critic. So, if anyone serve in the “force”, I am sorry but that is nothing to brag about.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:58 pmWorfeus the Marines are investigating a seperate incident of a man killed April 26 at Hamandiyah, west of Baghdad.
May 30th, 2006 at 11:02 pm#8 – I’m sure many have already responded to the BS you posted but, I couldn’t let it go by without responding. First of all, I did wear the uniform of this nation proudly and with distinction and have served in a combat zone. Your ideas about not knowing who is friend or foe is, sadly, true to an extent but no one here has blamed the root of this tragedy on the troops (although they are culpable and should be held to account) but rather on their superiors. You ask, “What’s the big deal about Haditha?” and spout a half-truth regarding not being able to tell friend from foe. Where your argument completely leaves the bounds of reality is in the fact that it should not be all that difficult to determine whether a 3 year old child or a 70 year old man is friend or foe when no one in the house is armed. I would submit to you that I doubt that you ever wore the uniform because if you had, you would know that their is something called LOAC or the Law of Armed Conflict and all troops are trained to follow it. Under LOAC, one NEVER fires on an unarmed individual. There is something far more insidious happening in this war that very well may be at the root of this horrific act. Our military has, for some time now, been sending troops with known mental disorders back into the field with almost no treatment. Their solution? Pump these poor bastards full of anti-anxiety medications such as paxil or wellbutrin which can, in some cases, cause them to become suicidal or homicidal. As I mentioned before, these troops committed an atrocity and should be punished accordingly. They are not the only ones to blame however. Their alleged superiors in Washington are also to blame and they should also be held accountable. How Donald Rumsfeld still has a job is beyond me.
May 30th, 2006 at 11:12 pm#175. Nicely done. Also, continuing with my anti-militar point of view, i think there is a contradiction when there is a need to describe, imagine or jassociate the concept of security with a rumbling tank driven by a nice looking fellows with machine guns. In that sense, Switzerland, Iceland, Costa Rica, Finland and Canada must be very unsafe places!!! It is all bullshit so US citizens live in constant fear and cooperate to produce more conflicts so Lockheed Martin doesnt go to bankrupcy.
May 30th, 2006 at 11:22 pmJaun
While I can appreciate your sentiment, and in some respects it does have merit, when of course referring to those who have taken place in attrocities, but I can respect the courage under fire it would take to “do a job”.
Particularly if that Job is not shooting back. While shooting back is tough enough (I’ve heard some really high statistics about how many first time soldiers failed to fire their weapon, or just fired them in the air, in their first fire fight)all by itself, I can’t imagine trying to put fuel line back on a jeep, or assemble a field radio under fire. Thats why we call them heros.
I’ve done a little rock climbing in my day. Not the gyms, the real stuff. And I’ve been in a few life or death situations where my life was in my buddies hands, and a few the other way around. I remember thinking, gee, imagine having to do this with people shooting crap at you.
Anyway its not a hero worship, although the country is on that kick right now, but its more of a respect. It takes courage to be steady when all hells breaking loose. No matter what your job is.
May 30th, 2006 at 11:28 pm#147 – Warface demonstrates omnipotence:
“Gee I don’t know, how about we start with 3 year old girls and 78 year old blind men in wheelchairs?That works for me.”
******Well of course it “works for you” – you and your comrades are pre-dispossesed to assume the WORST about the military. An enemy who LOVED his family, friends, mosque, hospital and schools would not endanger them with his presence or caches of weapons. I HATE the fact innocents die in war but please provide ab example of ANY WAR in which there was NO loss of innocent life?? In the meantime, while you’re frustration grows with such a futile search, I will wait for the information to be investigated and evaluated – unlike progs, I respect the truth and will not become judge, jury and executioner.
#151 – “Witnesses said there were civis laying dead everywhere .”
Comment by the Lone Voice of Reason (??)
Dear Reason??? – As opposed to all the dead Fallujans in uniforms – Thank for concisely demonstrating stupidity. Your brevity IS appreciated!
#153 – “You can read in her post that she really wishes that the US military was as blood thirsty as the “misunderstood barbarian Ghengis Khan†SpongeBOB
*****Dear SPONGE – Don’t quit your day job – you’d never make it on “Psychic Friends” network.
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May 30th, 2006 at 11:29 pmTheir solution? Pump these poor bastards full of anti-anxiety medications such as paxil or wellbutrin which can, in some cases, cause them to become suicidal or homicidal.
Comment by green917 — May 30, 2006 @ 11:12 pm
You gotta be kidding? They’re giving Paxil to guys with guns?
This is the first I’ve heard this one.
I think this is a story.
May 30th, 2006 at 11:34 pmAn enemy who LOVED his family, friends, mosque, hospital and schools would not endanger them with his presence or caches of weapons
Comment by NotSo-mighty aphrodite — May 30, 2006 @ 11:29 pm
Really?
So your theory is that the Polish Partisans who fought off the invading Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto did not love their families?
How about the French Resistance? Did they love their families?
What about the Dutch Resistance that helped us throughout Holland? Did they not love their families either?
I’m Dutch. My dad is Dutch. We seem to like each other.
May 30th, 2006 at 11:39 pmMighty why the rush there were more posts that had content you should have addressed…but reading facts and then based on military expierence interperting those facts like why the US Marine corps has seen fit to lock some Marines in the Brig…it seems the Generals In both Iraq and Camp Pendleton seem to think that some marines should be held..IN A PRISON LIKE SETTING…wonder what they could have done that was SO BAD that the Marine Corps Brought them back from the warand locked them up…and the fact that the general in Iraq though he needed to relieve two Captains and a Lt Colonel..in a combat zone…what could be that bad?
May 30th, 2006 at 11:39 pm#177. I understand, Worfeus. But you are talking about friendship and working in life-threatening situations. There are a lot of situations where that attitude of real humanity can bloom, not just war. It is like saying that thanks to war, I am able to travel the world and meet some nice people or learn how to fix a jeep. How can one be a victim when I know I am invading a country, no matter the crap I am told about it is about a freedom op. People who enlists in the Army is responsible at the age they sign, so they are responsible for their actions. They just cant say, I needed the money, so I had to blow up some poor village. I know they are poor kids, who have been lied, sent to a foreign country without the possibility to resign, but come on, in comparison to them, Iraqi kids are super super heros. You see, US has built its way based on war mostly and all of you have suffer the “just a hero can do this job, please support the troops” propaganda. And they are making you feel safer while shooting unarmed people? I just dont get it.
May 30th, 2006 at 11:42 pmThe truth is their is little difference between the Iraqi resistence and the partisan fighters of WW2 Europe.
Even the Russians in Moscow and Stalingrad stored their Weapons and Ammunition in their homes, and the homes of neighbors. They fought from their homes. Just like the Polish freedom fighters. They’d get their prettiest women and girls to stand on the balconys to welcome the germans and lull them into feeling safe.
Then, as an open halftrack or troop truck, even an open tank turret hatch, passed under them, they’d toss Molotof Cocktails made from wine bottles, their slips and sheets for fuses, and whatever flammable liquid was handy. One might say they were “homemade” or “improvised” devices.
May 30th, 2006 at 11:45 pmPoor Poor MA so many repug and neo-cons screwing up soo much of the time and she in all her lawyerly immensity must come here and IGNORE the facts and rant against the statements of others….so like the pretender of the office we have in DC. the constitution and facts be damned we have a world to democratise(conquer)..and elections to prepare for(plan on subverting the will of the majority)…and so many scientific situations to ignore..like global warming…stem cell research…poverty here and around the world..how can we be safe in our gated communities?
May 30th, 2006 at 11:45 pmBut I figured NotSo-Mighty Aphrodite would run.
Thats why shes NotSo-Mighty!
May 30th, 2006 at 11:47 pmAnd remember, we called them, and rightly so, heros.
Patriots, freedom fighters, heros.
But they Iraqi’s. Well, they’re all bad, right?
I mean, you guys are so smart, and you’ve been right about sooooo much, we should just trust you on this one too, right?
Kill em all. Kiddies too.
May 30th, 2006 at 11:51 pmWorfeus some of the same men we fight in Afghanistan were called freedom fighters when Reagan was president because they fought against the Soviets…but to them both the soviets ansd US invaded their country….
May 30th, 2006 at 11:55 pmWhen Blaming Clinton gets old, we can always Blame Murtha!
Where are those honorable Swift-boaters when we need them?!
May 30th, 2006 at 11:55 pmAnother one for you morons..Guess who was the president when the randy Weaver shootying took place? You ja*k ass morons don’t know who he was do you? Times up ..Bush 41.
May 30th, 2006 at 11:58 pm#179 – Worfeus,
Here’s a link to the article. The story broke last week when it was discovered that there have been significantly more military suicides in the last year.
CNN:Report:Mentally ill troops forced into combat
It is truly frightening!
May 31st, 2006 at 12:09 amHave you ever noticed that the trolls disappear when too many facts come out. They have to go back to Faux ? made up news to get some talking points. Not a one of them has their own brain. Also, not a one of them is a “Conservative”, they are Rethugs. Like MA(fat,bald lonely loser) and IRI alter boy pervert, coward and cleans toilets for a living however, claims to drive a big gas guzzerler(maybe a H1 Hummer ?) But, I think he is the only “Hummer”.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:10 amYes Joe, I do.
We were pounding pretty hard, but you gave him, “just the facts”.
They hate the facts.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:16 amJoefriday …William S. Sessions (1987–93) was director of the FBI for both Waco and Ruby Ridge…appointed by G H W bush 41th president of the US
May 31st, 2006 at 12:16 amcoorection sessions was appointed by none other than Ronald Reagan
May 31st, 2006 at 12:21 amWham! Bitch slapped.
You know Clif, I missed the old Tuesday night SmackDown.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:21 amToo bad the facts on this incident in Iraq along with other facts are going to make it harder and harder to say we are making progress in the country…..but that won’t stop bush cheney or their boot licking trolls…
May 31st, 2006 at 12:24 amJust give me the truth. I can take it from there.
An adequately educated American is honest enough to recognize propaganda, even when it’s his own nation’s and serves his own national interests. Every true American abhors a cover-up and adores truth. He never fears the consequences of a full and complete rendering of events as they actually happen, because he is obligated to participate in his government, and must be well-informed about the world around him as it actually is in order to due his civic duty.
Lord knows, there are not many “real Americans†like that left these days. And, if the national media are any indication, there are far fewer on the Right than just about anywhere else.
The Right thinks America is wonderful and not saying so ought to be a crime. It’s the land of the free, the home of the brave. We have the best of everything, and our economic, health, and judicial systems are the best and fairest ever. The Right doesn’t like the stories that tell the difficult truth about us, how we actually behave or what we do to other nations and our own citizens in the name of the greater good.
Which brings us to Haditha, the newest Iraqi war word entering the lexicon of U.S. history.
Just give me the truth.
Listen to the Republican talking heads spreading out across the media universe. Listen to their message: Murdering babies and elderly men praying in bed in cold blood is an unfortunate by-product of ridding the world of evil. What’s truly inexcusable, truly morally repulsive, is telling people it happened.
The Right-wing media hacks, the Coulters and O’Reilly’s, their various duped Christian groups, they all demand that public discourse be dominated by the good news story line where we are always Good and always fight Evil, that God blesses America and raises us up above all other nations, and that our citizens are incapable of the kind of barbaric savagery in which our enemies routinely engage. This is dangerous and delusional. Men are men and war is Hell.
These people are substance abusers. They imbibe patriotism and become drunk on the perfection of their beloved land. Their deep, infinite childhood oneness with mother, tragically lost and unmourned, is suddenly back, rarified and purified. And shared. Together. As a nation. And a drug.
They live in the pure timelessness of Nationalism, and are quite insane.
The fact is that all wars everywhere and all through history have had their Hadithas, their My Lais, their Carthages and Kosovos. Children are always mutilated, women and girls always raped, babies skewered. Old men shot dead while in bed praying. Generations of selfless young volunteers come home haunted by what they’ve seen and done, then live with it for a half century more.
The Bush administration owes us and the world a full accounting of what happened in Haditha before we can begin to ask why or figure out what it all means.
Just give me the truth. I need it so I can think about this.
I have read and enjoyed these strings many times and contributed a few comments myself now and then. I used to get almost physically ill reading them. I understand now that many of you are in this for the thrill of rhetorical violence and not for the pursuit of improving the world. This is fine, but it accomplishes nothing. It ennobles no one to insult one’s enemies.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:27 am#147 – Warface demonstrates omnipotence:
“Gee I don’t know, how about we start with 3 year old girls and 78 year old blind men in wheelchairs?That works for me.â€
******Well of course it “works for you†– you and your comrades are pre-dispossesed to assume the WORST about the military. An enemy who LOVED his family, friends, mosque, hospital and schools would not endanger them with his presence or caches of weapons. I HATE the fact innocents die in war but please provide ab example of ANY WAR in which there was NO loss of innocent life?? In the meantime, while you’re frustration grows with such a futile search, I will wait for the information to be investigated and evaluated – unlike progs, I respect the truth and will not become judge, jury and executioner.
#151 – “Witnesses said there were civis laying dead everywhere .â€
Comment by the Lone Voice of Reason (??)
Dear Reason??? – As opposed to all the dead Fallujans in uniforms – Thank for concisely demonstrating stupidity. Your brevity IS appreciated!
#153 – “You can read in her post that she really wishes that the US military was as blood thirsty as the “misunderstood barbarian Ghengis Khan†SpongeBOB
*****Dear SPONGE – Don’t quit your day job – you’d never make it on “Psychic Friends†network.
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May 31st, 2006 at 12:28 am
The Right thinks America is wonderful and not saying so ought to be a crime.
Comment by gun toting liberal — May 31, 2006 @ 12:27 am
Precisely.
Why can’t they see that making a law making it illegal to burn a flag in Protest just defeats the freedoms that flag is supposed to represent, the foremost of which is the freedom to protest our government?
May 31st, 2006 at 12:31 amJoe McCarthy …I would rather burn in hell than be in any place they allow you. If you truly beleive you will be in heaven or wherever you think you’re next level of consciousness will be, good luck son. Life progression means you have to evolve, to learn the lessons life teaches. You have missed the boat again.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:39 amTo dimwits like Joe McMuffin, killing Muslims is doing Gods work.
Since the days of Eustice of Flanders and Charles the Great, Isabella and Ferdinand, so called Christians have been killing Muslims under the banner of the cross.
How they sqare that with the actual teachings of Christ, is a mystery however. But sqaure it they do.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:46 amThanks cliff and worfeus! I am amazed how many retards have not a clue on history or current events. Most of the time I keep it all to myself. When I was in my teens I could not understand how the German people allowed what Hitler did. Now I know, it was easy. Give them someone to hate and fear and then you be big Daddy to protect them, works every time. Hate gays, flag burnners, Muslims, Mexicans, and all non born again Christians. not to mention liberals, tree huggers and people that believe in GLOBAL WARMING like that Gore ozone guy. We have a lot of work to do.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:48 amActually there are a lot of people out there who think and talk like Joe. In public these people put their politically correct faces on. If Joe’s type was truly a small amount of people, we certainly wouldn’t have the current folks in office running the gooberment.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:50 amBut something must be happening toi them because the “true” believers are not strutting like they were even last year(before Katrina) maybe they “feel” something is not right, even if they can not accept it and then thus see it them seklves…the repugs and neo-cons are nervous, this story has knocked the immagration debate off stride…thus denied them their story of the month…, but they will return with the protect the flag;not the constitution…and protect marriage from gays ;not divorce..admendments
May 31st, 2006 at 12:55 amJoe?
May 31st, 2006 at 12:58 amThat was put brilliantly simple Clif.
Protect the flag, not the Consititution.
How is it they can’t see the lunacy in that?
May 31st, 2006 at 1:00 amJoe McCarthy …I would rather burn in hell than be in any place they allow you. If you truly beleive you will be in heaven or wherever you think you’re next level of consciousness will be, good luck son. Life progression means you have to evolve, to learn the lessons life teaches. You have missed the boat again.
Comment by Left coast Mike — May 31, 2006 @ 12:39 am
To dimwits like Joe McMuffin, killing Muslims is doing Gods work.
Since the days of Eustice of Flanders and Charles the Great, Isabella and Ferdinand, so called Christians have been killing Muslims under the banner of the cross.
How they sqare that with the actual teachings of Christ, is a mystery however. But sqaure it they do.
Comment by worfeus — May 31, 2006 @ 12:46 am
May 31st, 2006 at 1:02 amHow the hell did I get crossed with you two?? or is there another joe? More to the point Left coast Doark..You got a big problem guy if you can’t see the good guys from the bad you have lost it. I think you have not progressed at all ( maybe a one cell).
Theres a guy named Joe McCarthy.
Thats who we were talking to.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:04 amI was just clowning around when I called him Joe McMuffin. (his real name is Joe McMurder).
May 31st, 2006 at 1:06 amOr is it Joe McMaggot?
May 31st, 2006 at 1:07 amjoefriday there was a troll here earlier who went by Joe McCarthy, and he was trying to thump everyone with his reichwingnut take on the bible and how we were going to hell if we didn’t accept his distortions of “the truth”
May 31st, 2006 at 1:09 amworfeus-I know Joe McMurder and your no McMurder.. Also, just kidding. I most always like your posts. I am outta here.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:15 amjoefriday there was a troll here earlier who went by Joe McCarthy, and he was trying to thump everyone with his reichwingnut take on the bible and how we were going to hell if we didn’t accept his distortions of “the truthâ€
Comment by Clif — May 31, 2006 @ 1:09 am
May 31st, 2006 at 1:17 amMakes sense now, I missed those posts. Have a good one!
Juan C,
For your information, most people don’t sign up and serve in the military to attack other countries. Quite the opposite. I joined the military to protect my country from invaders both forgien and domestic. Your attitude toward the average soldier is uncalled misplaced anger toward leaders who use the military like chess pieces.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:42 amWhen I was young, the guys I knew who were signing up after Viet Nam, was for the benefits particularly the College benefits. Jobs were scarce, so the military looked good to a lot of people.
I came real close to enlisting a few times to just for the bennies, but never could see myself cutting my hair that short. :D
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May 31st, 2006 at 2:25 amYes WORFEUS, there were guys who signed up for the college money. Those guys were the ones that jumped ou the windows when they heard that we were going to war with Iraq, during Desert Storm. I would bet $1 million dollars that those idiots were republicans.
May 31st, 2006 at 2:30 amThis is not the first time what about the other killing listed here
On March 15th, 11 Iraqis, mostly women and children, were massacred by US troops in Balad. Witnesses told reporters that US helicopters landed near a home, which was then stormed by US troops. Everyone visible was rounded up and taken inside the house where they were killed. The victims’ ages ranged from six months to 75 years.
March 19, Al-Arabia reported: “In another development, seven people, including a woman, were killed in a raid carried out by joint American-Iraqi forces in Al-Dulu’iyah at dawn today. The US Army has so far not confirmed this information.”
March 9, Al Sharqiyah Television reported: “US troops opened fire at a civilian vehicle as it passed by Al-Hadba district in the western part of Mosul, northern Iraq. The three occupants of the vehicle were martyred in the incident.”
During an attack on a wedding party in May 2004, US troops killed over 40 people, mostly women and children, in a desert village on the Syrian border of Iraq.
THE LIST GOES ON AND ON
May 31st, 2006 at 7:35 amIraq’s prime minister has said his patience was wearing thin with excuses from US troops that they killed civilians by mistake
In Iraq, “it’s the oil, stupid.”
Opinion Editorial
by Antonia Juhasz, Topeka Capitol Journal
January 21st, 2006
MinutemanMedia.org
Amid all the talk of training Iraqi soldiers, heading off a civil war, and protecting a fledging democracy, one overriding agenda has been ignored in the debate over the timetable for bringing U.S. troops home. President George W. Bush will not withdraw our forces until U.S. oil companies have secure access to Iraq’s resources.
The process of securing this access involves three steps. The first, put into motion with the December 15, 2005, election, is the formation a legitimate Iraqi government with the authority to, among other things, sign contracts with foreign oil companies. The second step is the completion and passage of a new national oil law that is set to conclude at the start of 2006. The third, having enough security on the ground for U.S. oil companies to get to work, is uncertain, and therefore the timeline for full U.S. troop withdrawal remains unknown. Prior to the 2003 invasion, foreign companies had limited to no access to the Iraqi market. Only Iraqis or citizens of Arab nations could own a business in Iraq, the oil sector was fully nationalized, and other than a few deals through the U.N. oil-for-food program, no U.S. companies had oil contracts. Following the invasion, the Bush administration implemented orders that have the effect of law allowing for the privatization of Iraq’s state-owned enterprises, 100 percent foreign ownership of Iraqi businesses, and repatriation of 100 percent of profits earned in Iraq by foreign companies. These orders were enshrined in the October 15 Iraq constitution. Before new oil contracts can be signed, the existing contracts had to be erased. In May 2003, “Energy Intelligence” reported that the U.S.-appointed senior adviser to the Iraqi Oil Ministry, Thamer al-Ghadban, announced that few, if any of the dozens of contracts signed with foreign oil companies under the Hussein regime would be honored. In June 2004, after being appointed Iraq’s Minister of Oil, al-Ghadban told Shell Oil in-house magazine that 2005 would be the “year of dialogue” with multinational oil companies. The Bush orders laid the groundwork for U.S. oil companies in Iraq, but a new national law currently making its way through the Iraqi Parliament will seal the deal. The law has its roots in the U.S. State Department’s Future of Iraq Project’s Oil and Energy Working Group, which found that Iraq “should be opened to international oil companies as quickly as possible after the war” and that the best method for doing so was through Production Sharing Agreements (PSAs). Ibrahim Bahr al Uloum, a member of the Working Group, succeeded al-Ghadban as Minister of Oil in early 2005.
None of the top oil producers in the Middle East use Production Sharing Agreements because they favor private companies at the expense of the exporting governments, including terms of 25 to 40 years and agreements that lock in the laws in effect at the time the contract was signed. Meaning that future Iraqi governments could change their laws, but the changes would not affect these oil contracts.
A new report by Greg Muttitt published by Oil Change International, the Institute for Policy Studies, and others, states that Iraq’s new oil law is set for implementation in 2006. It allows for currently producing oil fields — 17 out of 80 known fields – to be developed by Iraq’s National Oil Company, while all new fields would be opened to private companies using PSAs, giving private companies control of 64 percent of known reserves. If a further 200 billion barrels are found, as the Oil Ministry predicts, foreign companies could control 87 percent of Iraq’s oil.
The Iraqi Oil Ministry aims “to begin signing long-term contracts with foreign oil companies during the first nine months of 2006,” according to the report.
Signing the contracts is just the beginning, U.S. oil companies also need a safe place to work. This is where the U.S. military comes in and it is why Bush refuses to bring our troops home.
Antonia Juhasz is a visiting scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies and on the Board of Oil Change International. She is author of “The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, One Economy at a Time,” Regan Books, to be published in April 2006 — http://www.ips-dc.org.
May 31st, 2006 at 7:53 amI don’t believe Murtha would be speaking without blessings from field people.
May 31st, 2006 at 8:27 amHe’s a parent who sees his child kicking the dog and has finally said enough is enough.
I’d rather see Arabs die instead of my boys in uniform get tagged, so what’s the beef about Haditha? Most of these Arabs hate us anyway, so who cares if some of them get popped? Most of you wimps who make comments here, never had the essential, big, round ones it takes to wear a military uniform, so your comments are neutered and meaningless.
Comment by Joe McCarthy #8
Joe,
Pigsh*t like you deserve to lose everything you even THINK you care about…
…your gene pool is a deadly virus that needs to be eradicated…
…you aren’t human, nor are you animal…
…you’re viral, an infection that threatens civilization…
…I pray for YOUR extinction…
…soon…
May 31st, 2006 at 8:28 amThe facts surrounding the event are still not clear, and I await the military’s final report on the issue instead of Murtha presenting what will for all intents and purposes be an incomplete picture of what happened.
Comment by Seixon #13
Sickson,
this story has been hanging around for a while now…
…Murtha is bringing it out into the open, because the Pentago and MSM tried to squash it…
…just like they’ve done the Pat Tillman murder…
…Murtha is sound, trustworthy and has the gravitas to get the REAL story out…
…al Cracker sombiches like yourself are always trying to DOWNPLAY your cruel, evil uncivilized natures…
…always trying to place the blame on your victims or find some other ‘mitigating” factors…
…you al Cracker mofos are just plain EVIL PERIOD!
…and the world is watching you unravel…
…there is a price to pay for evil that EVERY empire since the dawn of man has paid…
…al Cracker, inbred, Bushite America is no different…
…they murdered those people (women and children and old people)…
…you know it and I know it…
…the difference is, I have a conscience…
May 31st, 2006 at 8:37 amJoe is just a racist. And confused. Bush is there to help Arabs. Just like he helps Mexicans.
May 31st, 2006 at 8:40 amI was a Marine Corpsman during ‘Nam.
May 31st, 2006 at 9:08 amLife expectancy in ‘68 for a Corpsman
was 72 hrs. The Vietnamese shot the
guy with the cross on his helmet first,
preventing further medical aid to the rest
of the squad.
People lose any anchor to reality under fire.
As in Iraq, we didn’t know who ‘the enemy’ was.
My Lai mirrors Haditha. Soldiers ‘lose it’ at times.
This does not make them innocent, but boots on
the ground cannot take sole blame for unwarranted
killings.
Rumsfeld & Bush are the killers. They planned, lied,
boasted, taunted & carried out the plan while Bin Laden
sits making audio tapes to the World.
Stop the Insanity! Speak your mind. Tell a neighbor how
you feel.
If you stay silent this insanity will continue!
Wake up, America! Something’s rotten in Washington.
This thing goes beyond Peter Pace. Wake up people – Rummy, Cheney and Bush are the guys to hold responsible. Well, maybe not W, considering he didn’t find out about the massacre until March, after the Time article.
How many other massacres have occurred but just haven’t been photographed?
http://www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
The dirt on Henry Paulson:
Right now on LCL
http://www.sunstateactivist.org
May 31st, 2006 at 9:18 amThe latest on the Haditha massacre cover up:
Only on SSA
He’s a parent who sees his child kicking the dog and has finally said enough is enough.
Comment by Jesus — May 31, 2006 @ 8:27 am
Yeah, plus the vet and emergency room bill was getting out of control…
May 31st, 2006 at 10:10 amMy favourite “tidbit†of common sense was from the governor in Kandahar Afghanistan. After pin-point bombing killed Taliban/AlQueda members and some of their family and friends with whom they hiding, the governor gave this sage advice, “If you don’t want to be killed in raids and bombings DON’T hang out with the Taliban.†So simple – so true.
Comment by mighty hypocrite
To Mighty Hypocrite,
May 31st, 2006 at 10:20 amThere is absolutely no reason to assume that the people killed in Haditha were hanging out with the Taliban, who are known to be in Afghanistan and to a certain extent in Pakistan but not in Iraq.
I was a Marine Corpsman during ‘Nam.Life expectancy in ‘68 for a corpsman was 72 hrs.
Excuse my French, but holy shit!
The Vietnamese shot the guy with the cross on his helmet first, preventing further medical aid to the rest of the squad.
lends support to the adage that war is hell… and why so many ex-militray who’ve seen combat are very reluctant to return. With good reasons no doubt.
People lose any anchor to reality under fire.As in Iraq, we didn’t know who ‘the enemy’ was.My Lai mirrors Haditha. Soldiers ‘lose it’ at times.This does not make them innocent, but boots on the ground cannot take sole blame for unwarranted killings.
A psychologist I used to know told me that when put into a life threatening situation that the brain shuts off – except for the reptilian aspects which control the adrenalin and an instinct to either fight or flee. I could see how a 24/7 barrage of adrenalin could lead to all sorts of mind bending – and resulting actions.
Rumsfeld & Bush are the killers. They planned, lied,boasted, taunted & carried out the plan while Bin Laden sits making audio tapes to the World.
Well said!
Stop the Insanity! Speak your mind. Tell a neighbor how you feel.If you stay silent this insanity will continue! Wake up, America! Something’s rotten in Washington.
Comment by Zimzone — May 31, 2006 @ 9:08 am
Powerful message. I think that is what people need to know. The realities of war. That it’s not a quaint little chess game – it is people’s lives that you are playing your megalomaniacal power plays with.
It shouldn’t take a tour of duty to understand that – but perhaps it is time to suit up the three Stooges, drop them in the hot zone and let them get a good look at the mess they created. Will save us the expense of their trials… and send a message to the rest of our ‘public servants’…
May 31st, 2006 at 10:20 amHeres a list of More atrocites the list goe on and on
complete shame on America
Read all these atrocites disgusting
May 31st, 2006 at 10:51 am#230 – “There is absolutely no reason to assume that the people killed in Haditha were hanging out with the Taliban, who are known to be in Afghanistan and to a certain extent in Pakistan but not in Iraq.” – Insight from Literal Lora
********Dear Literal Lora, I wonder if roadside bomb makers, car bomb makers, and those who would de-rail the fragile democracy in Iraq through terror might qualify as Iraq’s version of Taliban/Al Queda???? (Pssst…. LL, I REALIZE the instititutional differences between the Taliban, foreign fighters and homegrown insurgents.) I realize parallels are a DIFFICULT concept to grasp…..
#181 – Dear Worf – Your comparison between Poles, French and Dutch Resistance with Iraqi insurgents and foreign fighters is disgusting and a true slap in the face to all who battled the evil of Hitlers’ Nazism. Moral equivalency is a hypocritic hallmark of the prog movement. But I’m sure your dad still loves you…..
May 31st, 2006 at 11:02 amNo, Mighty Hypocrite,
May 31st, 2006 at 11:29 amI understood that you were trying to make parallels, but your parallels don’t hold. Inadvertently killing innocents in a pinpoint bombing is quite different from going into houses and seeing that you are killing small children and a wheelchair-bound old man.
Also you are clearly in a much lesser position to judge what happened than Congressman Murtha, who, being a decorated former Marine himself, talked to members of the Marines about this incident, to know what happened. You are assuming that the people killed in Haditha were hanging out with terrorists. Where is your proof? I imagine you have it about as much as you had the proof I requested but which you never produced about Mary Jo Kopechne’s supposed death from suffocation or that Bush supposedly won in every newspaper’s recount in Florida.
Oh, yes, I notice that often when you run out of defenses, you write that you “have to run.” So much for accusing Congressman Murtha of cutting and running!
Dear Literal Lora – YOU are assuming the innocents who were killed were NOT in the “wrong place at the wrong time”. Perhaps they were marked for death by THEIR friends or reatives who stopped in for a chat and a falafel. I am making no judgement until the FACTS are in – unlike you and Congressman “Cut and Run”. And since Murtha has been advocating a “Cut and Run” position since Somalia, I admire his consistency. I have produced the evidence you were apparently too busy or lazy to read – why am I not surprised?
May 31st, 2006 at 11:39 amYOU are assuming the innocents who were killed were NOT in the “wrong place at the wrong timeâ€. Perhaps they were marked for death by THEIR friends or reatives(SIC) who stopped in for a chat and a falafel. I am making no judgement until the FACTS are in. I have produced the evidence you were apparently too busy or lazy to read – why am I not surprised?
When and where did you produce it?
Comment by Mighty Hypocrite,
Cut and Run Hypocrite,
May 31st, 2006 at 11:56 amI have, in fact, assumed nothing. You are the one who has made assumptions and judgments by quoting a governor in Afghanistan as proof that people who associate with Taliban (or other terrorists) are responsible for their own deaths. Does a 3-year old child really know that some neighbor or seldom seen uncle has Taliban or Al Qaeda connections?
When and where did you produce it? I looked several times but didn’t find your so-called proof. I am not lazy and searched several times over a number of days before giving up. Being both a wife and a working woman, I am sometimes too busy to search after a 5 or 7-day lapse–unlie you an admitted paid troll.
“Pearls before swine”
Do not feed the trolls.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:08 pmDear Worf – Your comparison between Poles, French and Dutch Resistance with Iraqi insurgents and foreign fighters is disgusting and a true slap in the face to all who battled the evil of Hitlers’ Nazism. Moral equivalency is a hypocritic hallmark of the prog movement. But I’m sure your dad still loves you…..
Comment by NotSo-mighty aphrodite — May 31, 2006 @ 11:02 am
Dear Worf? Ok.
Dear Notso-Mighty.
A. I am not the first person to make those comparisons. In fact, if you and the Reichstag Boyz ever took time out of blabbering how everyone but you are traitors, then you might have listened back in 2003, when EVERY military analyst told you that Saddam was reading books about the Polish resistance, and how they were able to fight the occupying army by using HOME MADE IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVES.
In fact, Saddam even went as far as watching the movie, “Blackhawk Down”, as he formulated his strategy for a “War of Resitence”.
So while I can understand you are too stupid to see the OBVIOUS parallels to the Iraqi insurgency, and the Polish, French, Dutch and Russian insurgent fighters, I can’t understand why you bozo’s didn’t see this coming and make the connection when Saddamn warned you openly that he’d fight in the streets like they did in Blackhawk Down.
Yours truly, Clubber Worfeus.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:11 pmBeing both a wife and a working woman, I am sometimes too busy to search after a 5 or 7-day lapse–unlie you an admitted paid troll.
Comment by Lora #236
Lora,
Please use your time more judiciously in the future…
…puny hermaphrodite is no “paid troll”…
…shim is just a barren, ovaryless freak of nature who maintains a dominatrix-to-trick relationship…
…with some weasel shim calls Mr. Hermaphrodite…
…if anything shim’s a paid who*e, to whom change for a five spot can gain ANYONE instant access…
…heheheh, lawyer indeed!
May 31st, 2006 at 12:14 pmPS, while you’re soo ready to excuse this wanton murder, I don’t see how even you are sooo stupid, as to think there might be a good reason for shooting a 3 year old girl in the face at point blank range.
The old man I can understand, at least from your point of view. The Nazi’s killed old blind people too. Saw them as worthless.
But even the great and terrible NotSo-Mighty should not be so quick to defend the blasting of a 3 year old girls brains all over the ceiling of her own house, right after she watched her mother, father, brothers and sisters and old blind grandfather mercilessly gunned down like animals right in front of her tiny eyes.
Imagine how she cried, and screamed in terror, right before they blasted her.
Surely even your cold and blackened heart skips at least one beat for her?
Or have you totally gone over to the dark side of the Schwartz?
May 31st, 2006 at 12:19 pmCongressman Murtha has the guts to tell the truth. Our nation is in decline and our democracy is in jeopardy because so few in power have that same courage.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:31 pmJack Murtha is a good an decent man of honor and integrity.
No wonder the Neocons hate and despise him.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:39 pmDear NotSo-Mighty Aphrodite
You will be excited to learn that CNN is interviewing survivors of Haditha. I just watched an 8 year old girl who survived the slaughter.
She told how she watched them “attack” her Grandfather and parents. She described how they shot her mother in the head, pointing her index finger at her own forehead to demonstrate.
She described how her grandmother, hiding in the pantry with her and her little 7 year old brother, opened the door because she did not want the soldiers to break the door.
She said “I wish she hadn’t done that”. She went on to describe how they tossed in what she called, “a bomb” (hand grenade) and showed where her tiny body was ripped open by the shrapnel. Her grandma’s body shielded her, and she survived.
Then they raised the shirt of her brother, and showed the bullet hole in the center of his back, where they shot him straight through. Fortunately it did not hit any vital organs, so he survived, as they thought he was dead.
But I can understand your not wanting to be too hard on them. After all, some people survived, right?
May 31st, 2006 at 12:47 pmScrew em like Joe McCarthy says right? They”ll all grow up to be terrorists anyway.
Least they will now.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:49 pmNaturally, dear Worfeus, you MISSED my criticism of your “moral equivalency” argument. Maybe progs, in their “tolerance” are more willing to accept evil as good and good as evil. Sadly, many suffer from a severe, but thankfully not a congenital, disorder known as “moral mutation”. (In the pre-PC days, these unfortunates were known as “moral retards”.)
To your point about the interview with the little girl – it WAS heartbreaking to listen to her. But I had to wonder if Dad, Mom, Grandpa and the others ever discussed Uncle Mo’s latenight political meetings in front of that little child? Do you think they all sat around the cook pot and praised the bomb detonating accuracy of Cousin Ali? I don’t think so….She is a good witness for the events she SAW – NOT for the entire event. Even the military has Rules of Evidence….
Back later….
May 31st, 2006 at 1:33 pmPerhaps we will see how tough the Marines are here on our streets in the good ol’ USA, where they can’t hide behind their body armor and call in close air support.
Perhaps we shall see some day.
Then perhaps we will see this gang disbanded. When your training uses the techniques from the crudest hazing type of activity to the most sophisticated psychological conditioning to dehumanize men and turn them into robokillers, what do you expect except Haditha-type incidents. The problem is institutional, cultural with the marines, and the only solution is to make the Corps a corpse.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:41 pmDo you think they all sat around the cook pot and praised the bomb detonating accuracy of Cousin Ali.
Comment by NotSo-mighty aphrodite — May 31, 2006 @ 1:33 pm
Who cares? Who cares WHAT they did? The reason the little girl knew their would be an explosion is because she probably saw them planting the IED.
Who cares?
Where does it say the Iraqis are responsible for warning the invading army where their OWN RESISTENCE FIGHTERS have planted bombs? I don’t care if she MADE THE BOMB.
You don’t need to know that the military Rules of Engagement say you NEVER shoot an unarmed person, civillian or combatent. You just need to know its wrong to commit murder, a fact your so called “morals” apparently have obscured from you.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:47 pmThe soldiers that were killed were killed the same way soldiers in every army have been killed for 100 year, by soldiers in every army.
Or did your “morals” tell you that a Claymore is somehow less “immoral” than a homemade landmine?
May 31st, 2006 at 1:50 pmLike your boyz are so fond of saying, this is war.
And if you go in there shooting people, don’t start crying when they shoot back.
And if you go in bombing people, don’t be surprised when they bomb you back.
War is hell.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:54 pmWorfeus, I really admire you. Even if you say you were in the army. You see, I am not against soldiers: poor kids with no oportunities. But, patriotism is an invention made by governments to drive raging, hungry and ignorant people to defend interests they dont have. Dont waste your time on Aphrodite…who I think was the Greek Goddess of Love and Beauty??? Well, she surely has changed something.
May 31st, 2006 at 2:19 pmIt is lamentable, that to be a good patriot one must become the enemy of the rest of mankind.
Voltaire
May 31st, 2006 at 2:48 pmAmericans needs this man for president as neil youngs sings there must be somebody to make an honest president and this is your man
May 31st, 2006 at 2:59 pmWho? Who is our man Tobey?
May 31st, 2006 at 4:15 pmMighty your comment here bring to mind the comments of an American General from WW2..George S Patton upon looking in on holocaust survivors in a Jewish synagogue said
“We entered a synagogue which was packed with the greatest stinking bunch of humanity I have ever seen. Either these Displaced Persons never had any sense of decency or else they lost it all during their period of interment by the Germans…My personal opinion is that no people could have sunk to the level of degradation these have reached in the short space of four years.”
You both seem to have a lack of understanding anything that does not directly affect yourselves….thus no compassion or ability to relate to another’s suffering.
But do bloviate onward..you must need the pay KKKarl gives you you spend so much time here spewing hatred and intolerance
May 31st, 2006 at 5:32 pm#239 big papa,
May 31st, 2006 at 5:43 pmThanks for the good advice.
But I really don’t think you should insult respectable hermaphrodites by comparing them to the ugly troll here.
#247 – “Where does it say the Iraqis are responsible for warning the invading army where their OWN RESISTENCE FIGHTERS have planted bombs? I don’t care if she MADE THE BOMB.” – Comment by WarForLess
*****Finally, my dear Worfeus, you have the chutzpah to come out and say what you think – “enemy US soldiers” have every right to think they will be attacked by Sunnis “defending” their turf and Syrians, Iranians and Jordanians who join in the fight against US troops. But let’s examine your moral equivocation.
May 31st, 2006 at 6:20 pm1.) Those US troops whose deaths “you understand” have allowed a nation to go to the polls for the first time. The same cannot be said for the “resistance fighters as you so quaintly call them. They wish to turn the clock back to the Sunni stronghold of the Saddam-era.
2.) You equate “their own RESISTANCE FIGHTERS” with various Euro resistance movements during WWII. A more apt comparison would compare Iraqi IED makers with Vichy collaborators who tipped off Nazi’s regarding Allied troop movement. Hopefully, the opportunity afforded Iraq will not be squandered as I believe these people yearn to be free and control their own government. Only time will tell.
3.) Apparently ignorant of the concept of liberation, (an OLD Euro might explain it to you) you fail to understand the terms of a cease fire. A cease fire is NOT a peace, love, dove agreement – it is a cessation of hostilities while certain conditions are met. Progs are not kindly and they are not tolerant – they are snobs who don’t believe “other” people deserve democracy. But you, who would endeavor to empathize with our enemy, need look no further than the mirror to see a real enemy of freedom.
Axctually MA the most approiate comparison would be the Afghan and Arab freedom fighters which the CIA helped fund against the Soviets in the 1980’s…which is stricking similar to the call put out by the insurgent sunni’s and they recieve help from Jordan Egypt Saudi Arabia,,and Syria along with other foriegn countries which have Sunni populations in them…and the Shites call is being answered by the iranians…so were we wrong in the 1980’s to aid the insurgents of afghanistan.. or are we right in aiding them bac k then, thus legitimising the revolt that is starting to resurge in that country right now and by Fiat legitimising the insurgency going on in Iraq right now…
Was reagan right thus GWB wrong…or is GWB right thus Reagan wrong?
May 31st, 2006 at 6:39 pm1.) Those US troops whose deaths “you understand†have allowed a nation to go to the polls for the first time
Comment by the NotSo-mighty aphrodite — May 31, 2006 @ 6:20 pm
A, I never said I “understand” their deaths. Quit putting words in my mouth you cheap hack.
B. I am sure the Iraqi’s who have been bombed, beaten, shot and displaced from their homes, with no running water half the time, and no electricity the other half, appreciate your letting them vote for the handpicked puppet of the US.
I am sure they are dancing in the streets, singing God Bless America.
Those who still have arms and legs that is.
Idiot.
May 31st, 2006 at 7:03 pm2.) You equate “their own RESISTANCE FIGHTERS†with various Euro resistance movements during WWII. A more apt comparison would compare Iraqi IED makers with Vichy collaborators who tipped off Nazi’s regarding Allied troop movement.
Comment by the NotSo-mighty aphrodite — May 31, 2006 @ 6:20 pm
Nice try 0h not-so-mighty one.
A. We invaded Iraq without being under attack by them, or their allies.
B. We are so much more like the Nazi’s here. We are the ones, invading a sovereign nation, killing their men, women and children, imprisoning tens of thousands without want or writ, preaching a totalitarian doctrine of our way or the highway (to heaven).
C. I suggest the best way to save US soldiers lives is to bring them back to US soil.
And considering your boyz from Brazil haven’t had one working idea in over 3 years, other than to pump more 19 year olds into the meat grinder, I’d say its time to give something new a try.
May 31st, 2006 at 7:23 pmCome on Mighty you can tell us was georgie right and Ronny wrong or is georgie the corupt evil emperor and ronny right ?
May 31st, 2006 at 7:41 pmProgs are not kindly and they are not tolerant – they are snobs who don’t believe “other†people deserve democracy.
Comment by Mighty Hypocrite
Of all the ridiculous statements Mighty Hypocrite has posted so far, this has got to be near or at the very top–especially coming from a member of “search their bedrooms” “the dead don’t worry about civil liberties” crowd.
May 31st, 2006 at 8:52 pmMighty dear, you have already lost the argument when you take such a cheap outlandish shot. But then I should have realized it’s pointless to argue with a person who tries to justify killing a three-year old child. Your fellow Austrian, Adolf Hitler, would be proud.
Well isn’t that interesting – my one or two comments in this thread seem to have vanished. I used the word ‘bullshit’ in one, I wonder why I am being censored today?
May 31st, 2006 at 9:58 pmAnd now it’s back – curiouser and curiouser
May 31st, 2006 at 9:59 pm[...] Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) suggested a cover up of the event by military officials on ABC’s ‘This Week’ on Sunday. [...]
June 1st, 2006 at 3:55 am[...] Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) suggested a cover up of the event by military officials on ABC’s ‘This Week’ on Sunday. [...]
June 1st, 2006 at 4:08 am[...] The three-month probe of the reported massacre in Haditha, expected to be released next week, will likely conclude not only that “some officers gave false information to their superiors,” but that “senior Marine commanders were derelict in their duty to monitor the actions of subordinates.” Army Maj. Gen. Eldon Bargewell, who led the probe, “declined to say whether he would characterize it as a ‘coverup.’” [...]
June 1st, 2006 at 9:14 amBut I really don’t think you should insult respectable hermaphrodites by comparing them to the ugly troll here.
Comment by Lora #242
Lora,
Your point is well taken…
…it’s ONLY because MA is a sick, twisted, murderous, TREASONOUS Bushite “troll”…
…that my “sensitivity meter” is OFF when addressing comments made by her/him…
June 1st, 2006 at 10:22 amit is my belief that Haditha is only part of a pattern of deatsquad activity by U.S. troops.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:42 amWell there were a lot of death squad attacks, that we’ve been blaming on Iraqi sectarian violence.
But now I wonder.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:56 amDidn’t the Nazis (in WWII – not now) execute citizens for attacks on the soldiers?
Just wondering, it is really difficult NOT TO DRAW THOSE TYPES OF PARRALLELS there are just way way too many similarites with Nazi Germany and Dumbya’s new fatherland.
I bet dumbya wishes his grandfather Prescott could be around to see him filling the shoes of grampy’s HERO – Hitler.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:21 pmP.S.: You go Dixie Chicks! It took a while, but right is right! I am ashamed that dumbya is from Texas too. (but he really isn’t from Texas – he is a east coast assbrat whose family relocated to Texas so daddy could get in the oil business and arrange the 1963 November parade suprise for JFK)
It must suck to be a RETHUGlican. I can say that RETHUGlicans will fall further as time marches on.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:58 pmSo let me get this straight #8, we’re not qualified to give an opinion about war and atrocities if we’ve never been in the military? I just love how people in the armed services assume that they’re more entitled to their opinions than the rest of us.
This has nothing to do with military knowlege and experience. We shouldn’t be there in the first place!
What a duchebag!
June 1st, 2006 at 5:13 pm#258 – “…so daddy could get in the oil business and arrange the 1963 November parade suprise for JFK)” – Conspiracy theory by KJGrovel
I dunno, KJ – I think your ideological “friend”, Lee Harvey, LOVED Russia & Cuba – two “socialist” paradises for lazy losers. I did find a cute website where I am able to find all the “progressive”, commie cliches bundled up in one place – Goodhearts.com. A rally adorable section is entitled “Anti-Capitalist Heroes”. Karl Marx was right there at the top of the list!! You might get some new material – but the good news – you ought to fit right in.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:20 pmPhil, the demo-snobs of the left (people who DO NOT believe other people are worthy of democracy) don’t understand that YOU are FREE because of the bravery and unselfishness of our military. A genuine “Thank YOU!!!” would be a generous gesture.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:26 pmBut this from a group of self-hating “thinkers” who revere the “national masochism” of Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky….Pitiful….
Phil, the demo-snobs of the left (people who DO NOT believe other people are worthy of democracy) don’t understand that YOU are FREE because of the bravery and unselfishness of our military. A genuine “Thank YOU!!!†would be a generous gesture.
Comment by mighty hypocrite,
And since when did you ever THANK people who actually served in the military and were decorated like Rep. Murtha, Sen. Kerry, Gerneral Zinni, etc.? People like you and your draft-dodging heros like Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, etc. do nothing but trash them if they don’t share your view, Disgusting Hypocrite.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:04 pmDidn’t the Nazis (in WWII – not now) execute citizens for attacks on the soldiers?
Just wondering, it is really difficult NOT TO DRAW THOSE TYPES OF PARRALLELS there are just way way too many similarites with Nazi Germany and Dumbya’s new fatherland.
I bet dumbya wishes his grandfather Prescott could be around to see him filling the shoes of grampy’s HERO – Hitler.
Spin that one asshat MA/IRI.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:33 pmOh, and “holder of all the knowledge” M-AZZhat,
I suppose you’re going to tell me that Prescott Bush never managed a factory in Germany that used labor from the Concentration Camps?
I suppose you’re going to tell me that the Bush family never got their assets frozen in October 1942 for violating the “trading with the enemy act”.
I also suppose you’re going to tell me that the Saudi Royal family and the Bush family don’t own the Carlyle Group, Citibank.
I suppose you’re going to tell me that Bush didn’t have dinner (9/11) with one of the Bin Laden family at the White-Whore-House.
I suppose you’re going to tell me that Marvin Bush’s company was NOT in the WTC on 9/10 installing “security devices”, and his nanny that didn’t live at his house was not killed a few weeks later in a strange “accident” at his house, and Neil didn’t tell the police that she lived there?
We bow to your knowledge….asshat
June 1st, 2006 at 7:40 pmDear Lying Lora- I have thanked more brave members of the military than you have fingers, toes or hash marks to count. (If you served in the military, allow me to thank you now.)
Unfortunately, I forgot to thank John Kerry for his brave and “evolving” testimony before Congress. John Murtha, (who began his campaign of “cut and run” with Somalia – trying to influence another great draft dodger, Wm. Jefferson Clinton)Come to think of it, Murtha reminds me of other great liberal military icons, George McGovern, Jimmeh Carter, etc. But take off your phony appreciation for the military – you’re as transparent as Saran Wrap.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:50 pmThis evil bu$h regime will not will over the Iraqis. It’s way too late. Everything this evil bu$h regime has undertaken has failed. Makes me wonder? Like a bunch of rich frat-rat boys, dreaming schemes, and never having to complete the schemes because old, rich daddy bails ‘em out of their delimma. The bu$h bunch half-assed everything except rewarding the rich and giving more taxpayer money to their profiteer buddies.
So, why is there no success in Iraq? Well, someone in power has to make up his coke-burned mind up. Hard to do for someone playing like he’s president.
How do the terrorists get away with it? Heck, they already figured out the simple part. The US cannot and will not secure the country of Iraq. It’s the freedom fighters/terrorist/insurgents game. They are controlling the country, while bu$h and his incompetent bunch think up new excuses for why things are not going bad. ;) Smoke a little dope and it would probably look like success to you, too. ;0 The freedom fighters/rebels/insurgents can kill anyone with the US retaliating against innocent civilians, causing more and more problems for the US in this Iraq civil war. The bu$hnazis are too proud, and ignorant of the complications of any armed conflict (most of them dodged the draft or got plush reserve/guard slots) and too arrogant to let military men tell them that they have failed to ever concede to pulling troops out of Iraq.
The bu$h regime has made the US more and more enemies since day one in Iraq and all over the Middle East. One thing that the bu$hnazi CIA will fail to uncover again is that the Middle Easterners know how to thrive on revenge.
There is probably no accounting for how many individuals were picked up as “terrorists” by the bu$h regimes operatives. Besides, under bu$hnazism, if they ain’t white anglo-saxon christians, they don’t count. So, for every man picked up, there may be dozens of male relatives who are ready and willing to kill Americans to get revenge for their brother/cousin/father/friend’s illegal incarceration by the bu$hregime. Abu Ghraib come to mind? Anyone? That’s the one we heard about! Knowing how incompetent and corrupt the bu$h regime is, there are probably hundreds of illegal prisons holding possibly some innocent people.
Another sorry scheme the profiteers do ( I call it the Brown and Root Scoot) is to import foreigners to work for them and not hire the resident Iraqi citizens. “You can’t trust ‘em!” Halliburton’s Kellogg Root and Scoot does the same thing in the US. They get major construction projects and hardly ever hire local workers for fear of being organized by Union Workers. So, another sore point in Iraq , I would say, is the unemployment of about 30 to 40% of Iraqis. That’s just an estimate. I heard that from a religious social worker who had just returned from Iraq. She said everything the bu$h regime does in Iraq just alienates the Iraqis against the US.
My conclusion is this, let bu$h keep screwing things up in IRAQ, then do the next stupid stunt and invade Iran. That ought to teach the really dumb true-believer conservanazis just how they can be led by an incompetent National Guard deserter. The US military is starting to complain about being used up and needing releif from Iraq. The former generals (who didn’t have the balls to speak up earlier) are making more noise about how incompetent rumdummy is. Yet, they act like they still support Crawford, TX’s village idiot.
Murtha is keeping this disaster on the radar screen. He deserves a medal more than the idiot who screwed up the intell as director of the CIA.
buck fush
June 1st, 2006 at 9:17 pmDear Lying Lora-
Blah, blah blah.
comment by Mighty Hypocrite
Mighty Hypocrite,
June 1st, 2006 at 9:26 pmI challenge you to cite any lies you think I have made, Ms/Mr. gender-confused　phony attorney who can’t even spell legal terms correctly.
Mighty Ass-hat, I notice you didn’t answer any of my questions and went directly to attacking someone else. Typical RETHUGlican tactic. So Miss Ass-hat I have posted my questions here for you again.
You didn’t answer these questions for one and only one reason YOU DON’T HAVE THE SKILLS TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES withoutAdmitting YOU’RE SO TOTALLY WRONG.
Two words for you Miss Ass-hat: YOU’RE SAD.
Oh, and “holder of all the knowledge†M-AZZhat,
I suppose you’re going to tell me that Prescott Bush never managed a factory in Germany that used labor from the Concentration Camps?
I suppose you’re going to tell me that the Bush family never got their assets frozen in October 1942 for violating the “trading with the enemy actâ€.
I also suppose you’re going to tell me that the Saudi Royal family and the Bush family don’t own the Carlyle Group, Citibank.
I suppose you’re going to tell me that Bush didn’t have dinner (9/11) with one of the Bin Laden family at the White-Whore-House.
I suppose you’re going to tell me that Marvin Bush’s company was NOT in the WTC on 9/10 installing “security devicesâ€, and his nanny that didn’t live at his house was not killed a few weeks later in a strange “accident†at his house, and Neil didn’t tell the police that she lived there?
We bow to your knowledge….asshat
Comment by KJ Lovell
June 1st, 2006 at 9:34 pmOh, and Miss Ass-hat, you forgot to state the fact that dumbya was AWOL. I just thought I would mention it for you since you hold all the knowledge.
Oh, and Miss Ass-hat, one other question: Are you going to tell me that Laura Bush didn’t kill her boyfriend in Texas?
Are you going to tell me that Laura Bush was not the college drug dealer?
You don’t have the skills to answer any questions, your only skills are repeating RETHUGlican talking points, no matter how many times people prove you are a know-nothing.
Cheers
June 1st, 2006 at 9:39 pmPs. Mighty Hypocrite,
Someone already debunked your cut-and-run on Somalia criticism of Rep. Murtha on another thread. I realize facts don’d sink easily into your thick head, which is why you repeat your favorite lines that have already been debunked. Below is what the conservative “National Review” wrote in its Nov. 29, 1993 issue about the GOP push to cut and run from Somalia:
“We find ourselves in the strange position of admiring the eloquence of Mr. Clinton’s ringing reaffirmation of Executive authority as he beat back the various amendments by Senaters Dole and Helms, Representative Gilman, et al. (On November 3, the House Foreign Affairs Committee narrowly defeated, by 22 to 21, a Republican resolution seeking to accelerate U.S. withdrawal from Somalia.)”.
Any comments from you on the GOP resolution seeking to accelerate US withdrawal from Somalia?
June 1st, 2006 at 11:14 pmLora, the mighty ass-hat will never answer because it doesn’t have the skills to engage in a debate. You will notice that the ass-hat leaves until things cool off and returns to lie again later. You know, live to attempt to fight another battle later.
I nailed the mighty ass-hat when I told her I noticed that rather than answering my questions she immediately started attacking you.
Not all CONservatives are stupid, but most STUPID PEOPLE ARE CONservative.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:23 pmTo KJ Lovell,
June 1st, 2006 at 11:32 pmI realize that Mighty Hypocrite will not be answering to such questions; I don’t really expect any comments relevant to the discussion. I only pulled out the “National Review” quote to remind “him” (I don’t think Mighty is a woman) that he can’t get away with the “cut-and-run” in Somalia BS forever.
Lora,
The RETHUGlicans know they are finished, and they are losing the ability to cultivate fear, hatred and intolerance and focus it for their gain.
People like Mighty Ass-hat and IRI (one and the same) never answer questions but try to refocus the conversation in a direction of their choosing. When we use their own tactics against them it shuts them down and they go away.
They are much like the loud drunk at a party. When a big guy stands up and tells them to shut up and behave they vanish temporarily only to resurface and find another person to attack. Same mind set as a wife-beater.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:38 amour point is well taken…
…it’s ONLY because MA is a sick, twisted, murderous, TREASONOUS Bushite “trollâ€â€¦
…that my “sensitivity meter†is OFF when addressing comments made by her/him…
Comment by big papa
big papa,
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:35 amI certainly understand your feelings towards the ugly troll. But I do think it’s best to avoid insults referring to physical attributes that a person was born with and can not prevent. I don’t include “ugly” as such a physical attribute because a person can look okay on the surface but be ugly inside. Moreover, I have found that most people who are truly ugly inside, though of attractive appearance when young, eventually grow ugly on the outside, too, I am sure the troll is quite ugly in both respects by now. Anyway, my best wishes to you.
proof that the system is meant only for the rich,
sends those who should be in jail to KILL
and those who just enjoyed a little weed to the pen.
Genocide is conditioned into soldiers
becuase RACISM is the best perpetrater
of a class system– as well as
a way to keep people in check and “stupid”
the truth is they don’t want you educated
becuase you might understand that
no matter when you kill someone
it IS murder.
–NSOL
June 2nd, 2006 at 4:00 ama person can look okay on the surface but be ugly inside. Moreover, I have found that most people who are truly ugly inside, though of attractive appearance when young, eventually grow ugly on the outside, too, I am sure the troll is quite ugly in both respects by now. Anyway, my best wishes to you.
Comment by Lora
That would certianly explain why Barbara Bush looks the way she does. “…what I am hearing is a little scary, they are saying they want to stay. They were underprivileged anyway (laugh) so this is working out quite well for them.”…..when asked about the N.O. evacuees in the Astrodome.
June 2nd, 2006 at 9:29 amKJ Lovell,
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:14 amIt also explains Katherine Harris, Jean Schmidt, Ann-thrax Coulter, and I’m sure others who don’t quite come to mind. I am a bit distracted, as in the past few hours I found out that a longtime friend has terminal cancer and is not expected to live out this year.
Lora, sorry to hear that. I just lost my mother to cancer 12/17/05. She was a beautiful woman inside and out and a source of my desire to stick up for things that are right and good.
She was able to tell these bible tumping hate filled so called Christians to go to hell, and in a way that made them look forward to the trip. It was a delight to witness them try to get into a battle of scripture with her, they always lost.
She was deeply religious, but never forced it on anyone. You know, the way it SHOULD BE. So I personaly find people like scrotorum and dumbya very offensive.
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AHMED ALH BHUDHOUT ALAWY – 6/7/2006 6:03:31 AM
Komentar:
هاشميرÙسنجاني.
رييس مجمع تشخيص مصلØت نظام در جمع مردم قم اظهار داشت: بايد با تلاش، سرمايه گرانقدر همراهي مردم با روØانيت را ØÙظ كرد.
به گزارش خبرنگار ايرنا، آيتالله “اكبر هاشمي رÙسنجاني” روز دوشنبه در اجتماع با شكوه راهپيمايان قم در شبستان امام خميني (ره) در Øرم مطهر Øضرت Ùاطمه معصومه (س) خاطرنشان كرد: Øضرت امام با انسجام مردم توانست آمريكا Ùˆ نظام ستم شاهي پهلوي را از ايران بيرون كند.
وي اÙزود: امروز ما نيز نبايد بگذاريم بار ديگر دشمنان از پنجره وارد شده Ùˆ چيزي كه از دست داده بودند را دوباره به دست آورند.
هاشمي رÙسنجاني Ú¯Ùت: بايد بتوانيم اين سرمايه را با Ù…Øوريت Øوزه علميه قم بويژه مرجعيت عاليقدر تا ظهور صاØب زمان (عج) Ù…ØÙوظ نگهداريم.
وي با اشاره به موقعيت Øساس قم در طول تاريخ اسلام Ú¯Ùت: سخنراني Øضرت امام در سال ‪ ۱۳۴۲‬مانند خوني بود كه به پيكر اÙسرده ملت تزريق شد Ùˆ رژيم ستم شاهي را از پاي درآورد.
رييس مجمع تشخيص مصلØت نظام خاطرنشان كرد: امام با اين Øركت، صداي مردم ايران را بهسراسر جهان رسانيد Ùˆ Øركت انقلاب را به نقطه جوش آن رساند كه با اتكا به Øوزه علميه Ùˆ پايگاه روØانيت Ùˆ همراهي مردم انقلاب به ثمر نشست.
هاشمي رÙسنجاني بااشاره به مخالÙت شاه با Øوزه علميه Ùˆ مرجعيت امام (ره) Ú¯Ùت: پس از درگذشت آيت الله بروجردي ØŒ شاه تلاش كرد كه Øوزه علميه قم را منزوي ساخته Ùˆ از صØنه خارج نمايد Ùˆ به رغم وجود مراجع عظام در قم، به منظور انتقال مرجعيت به نج٠اشر٠پيام تسليت Ùوت آيتالله بروجردي را به Øوزه نج٠اعلام كرد.
وي اÙزود: قم به رغم تلاش دستگاه جبار آن زمان خواستگاه ‪ ۱۵‬خرداد Ùˆ انقلاب اسلامي شد Ùˆ مردم آن به عنوان ريشهدارترين بخش نهضت Ùˆ انقلاب عمل كردند.
وي Ú¯Ùت: از آنجايي كه قم كانون مخالÙت با رژيم ستمشاهي بود هميشه مورد غضب شاه Ùˆ دستگاه سلطنت بود وبه همين خاطر از كمترين امكانات Ù…Øروم گشت.
هاشمي رÙسنجاني اÙزود: عليرغم تلاش شاه براي اختلا٠انداختن ميان Øوزه هاي نج٠و قم ØŒ Øضرت امام (ره) توانست با استÙاده از شناخت خود ظرÙيت مناسب براي سرنگوني رژيم را از درون اين دو Øوزه بوجود آورد.
رييس مجمع تشخيص مصلØت نظام، پيروزي انقلاب اسلامي را نعمت گرانقدري توصي٠كرد Ùˆ ØÙظ آن را بر همه مردم Ùˆ مسوولين واجب دانست.
پيش از سخنان هاشمي رÙسنجاني آيتالله “مسعودي خميني” توليت آستانه مقدس Øضرت Ùاطمه معصومه (س) به هاشمي رÙسنجاني خير مقدم Ú¯Ùت.
—> ايرنا.رÙسنجاني.روØانيت.سرمايه.
Berita Mahkamah Konstitusi ô€º No. 01, Desember 2003 5 Nomor 008/PUU-I/2003 DEMI KEADILAN BERDASARKAN KETUHANAN YANG MAHA ESA KETUA MAHKAMAH KONSTITUSI REPUBLIK INDONESIA 1. Penetapan Ketua Mahkamah Konstitusi Republik Indonesiatanggal 23 Oktober 2003 Nomor 008/PUU-I/2003 tentangpenetapan hari sidang;2. Surat Permohonan tertanggal, 27 Maret 2003 dari ERMAN UMAR,S.H., SUHANATA NATAWILWANA, S.H., DESWAL ARIEF, S.H., M.E. BRAHMANTYA, S.H. dan JANUAR, S.H., Para Advokat berkantor pada Law Office Erman Umar, S.H. & Associates, dahuluberalamat di Gedung Prioritas Lt. 2 JI.Gondangdia Lama No.44-46 Menteng, Jakarta Pusat, sekarang beralamat di Gedung GrahaPratama Lt. 5, Jalan M.T. Haryono Kav.15 Jakarta, bertindakselaku Kuasa Hukum dari Dewan Pimpinan Pusat KomitePenyelamat Partai Persatuan Pembangunan Reformasi (PPPReformasi), berdasarkan Surat Kuasa Khusus tanggal 26 Maret2003, yang terdaftar di Register Kepaniteraan MahkamahKonstitusi Republik Indonesia, dengan Nomor 008/PUU-I/2003,tanggal 15 Oktober 2003 dalam perkara permohonan pengujianUndang-Undang Republik Indonesia Nomor 31 Tahun 2002tentang Partai Politik terhadap Undang-Undang Dasar NegaraRepublik Indonesia Tahun 1945;3. Berita Acara Pemeriksaan Pendahuluan Nomor 008/PUU-I/2003,pada hari Kamis, tanggal, 06 Nopember 2003;4. Surat dari ERMAN UMAR, S.H., SUHANATA NATAWILWANA, S.H., DESWAL ARIEF, S.H., JANUAR, S.H. dan BRAHMANTYA, S.H. (KuasaHukum Pemohon), tertanggal, 13 November 2003, No.03/EUA/Eks/XI/2003, yang pada pokoknya menyatakan menarik kembalipermohonan pengujian pasal 2 ayat (3) huruf c dan pasal 19ayat (1) huruf e Undang-Undang Republik Indonesia Nomor 31Tahun 2002 tentang Partai Politik; Bahwa penarikan permohonan Pemohon tersebut tidak bertentangandengan Undang-Undang, oleh karenanya haruslah dikabulkan; Pasal 35 ayat (1) dan (2) Undang-Undang Republik Indonesia Nomor:24 Tahun 2003 tentang Mahkamah Konstitusi Republik Indonesia; -Mengabulkan Permohonan Pemohon untuk menarik kembalipermohonannya; -Menyatakan perkara permohonan Nomor 008/PUU-I/2003,tentang pengujian Pasal 2 ayat (3) huruf c dan Pasal 19 ayat (1)huruf e Undang-Undang Republik Indonesia Nomor 31 Tahun2002 tentang Partai Politik terhadap Undang-Undang DasarNegara Republik Indonesia Tahun 1945, ditarik kembali; -Menyatakan permohonan Pemohon mengenai pengujianterhadap pasal-pasal tersebut di atas, tidak dapat diajukankembali; -Memerintahkan kepada Panitera untuk mencoret perkara Nomor008/PUU-I/2003 tersebut dalam Buku Registrasi MahkamahKonstitusi Republik Indonesia. Ditetapkan di: JakartaPada tanggal: 14 Nopember 2003 KETUA, Prof. Dr. JIMLY ASSHIDDIQIE, S.H. Mahkamah Konstitusi Republik Indonesia Pemilihan Umum Anggota DPR, DPD, dan DPRD (dengan Pemohan yang berbeda dengan sebelumnya), Pengujian UU No. 16 Tahun 2003 tentang Penetapan Perpu No. 2 Tahun 2002 tentang Pemberantasan Tindak Pidana Terorisme atas Peristiwa Bom Bali menjadi Undang-Undang, dan Pengujian UU Susunan dan Kedudukan MPR, DPR, DPD, DPRD terhadap UUD 1945. Sehari kemudian (11/12) kembali digelar 4 sidang, yaitu Pengujian UU No. 30 Tahun 2002 tentang Komisi Pemberantasan Tindak Pidana Korupsi (KPTPK), Pengujian UU No. 13 Tahun 2003 tentang Ketenagakerjaan, Peng-ujian UU No. 22 Tahun 1999 tentang Pemerintahan Dae-rah, dan Pengujian UU No. 11 Tahun 2003 tentang Perubahan atas UU No. 53 Tahun 1999 tentang Pem-bentukan Kabupaten Pelalawan, Kabupaten Rokan Hulu, Kabupaten Rokan Hilir, Kabupaten Siak, Kabupaten Karimun, Kabupaten Natuna, Kabupaten Kuantan Singingi, dan Kota Batam terhadap UUD 1945. Ketetapan pertama MK MK kembali bersidang pada tanggal 12 Desember 2003 dengan agenda pembacaan ketetapan untuk Pengujian UU No. 31 Tahun 2002 tentang Partai Politik dan Pemeriksaan Persidangan untuk Pengujian UU No. 14 Tahun 1985 tentang MA. Ketetapan terhadap Pengujian UU No. 31 Tahun 2002 merupakan ketetapan pertama MK sejak terbentuknya lembaga yudikatif ini. Ketetapan ini merespons sikap Pemohon, yaitu DPP Komite Penyelamat Partai Persatuan Pembangunan Reformasi (PPP Reformasi) yang menarik kembali permohonannya. Ketetapan pertama MK tersebut antara lain menya-takan mengabulkan Permohonan Pemohon untuk menarik kembali permohonannya dan menyatakan perkara permohonan Nomor 008/PUU-I/200 tentang pengujian Pasal 2 ayat (3) huruf c dan Pasal 19 ayat (1) huruf e UU No. 31 Tahun 2003 tentang Partai Politik terhadap UUD 1945 ditarik kembali. Tujuh perkara baru Setelah memeriksa 14 perkara limpahan dari MA, MK menerima 7 permohonan baru. Untuk itu MK menggelar pemeriksaan pendahuluan selama tiga hari, yakni 2, 3, dan 5 Desember 2003 bertempat di Gedung Plaza Centris Lantai 3 dan 12A, Jl. HR Rasuna Said, Kuni-ngan, Jakarta Selatan. Permohonan terdaftar (teregistrasi): 23 perkara Permohonan yang dilakukan pemeriksaan persidangan: 21 perkara Permohonan yang ditarik kembali: 1 perkara Permohonan yang tengah dilakukan pemerik-saan pendahuluan oleh Panel Hakim: 1 perkara
RANCANGAN UNDANG-UNDANG
REPUBLIK INDONESIA
NOMOR …/……../TAHUAN 2008
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PENGUKUHAN LSM( KOBUKI)
KONTAK BUDAYA KOMUNIKASI INDONESIA
SEBAGAI LEMBAGA NEGARA REPUBLIK INDONESIA
RANCANGAN UNDANG-UNDANG REPUBLIK INDONESIA
NOMOR……../……/ TAHUN 2008
TENTANG
PENGUKUHAN LSM (KOBUKI)
KONTAK BUDAYA KOMUNIKSI INDONESIA
SEBAGAI LEMBAGA NEGARA
REPUBLIK INDONESIA
PRESIDEN REPUBLIK INDONESIA
Menimbang :
a) Bahwa persatuan dan kesatuan dalam negeri merupakan syarat utama mendukung terwujudnya masyarakat madani yang adil , makmur dan beradab berdasarkan Pancasila dan undang-Undang Dasar Negara Republik Indonesia tahun 1945.
b)Bahwa pemeliharaan persatuan dan kesatuan dalam Negeri melalui upaya penyelenggaraan Fungsi LSM KOBUKI yang meliputi pememliharaan persatuan dan kesatuan dan ketertiban masyarakat dilakuhkan oleh LSM Kobuki Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia.
c)Bahwa telah terjadi perubahan peradigma dalam sitem ke3tatanegaraan yang menegaskan pangukuhan LSM Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia sebagai lembaga Negara. Sesuai denfgan pearan dan fungsi masing-masing.
C)Bahwa berdasarkan pertimbangan sebagiman dimaksud dalam huruf a, b, c perlu dibentuk Undang-Undang tentang pengukuhan LSM KONTAK BUDAYA KOMUNIKASI INDONESIA SEBAGAI LEMBAGA NEGARA.
Mengingat :
1)Pasal 32 ayat 1 dan 2 , pasal 28 D , 28 E Undang-Undang Negara Republik Indonesia tahun 1945.
2) ketetapan Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat nomor…../DPR 2008 tentang pengukukhan LSM KONTAK BUDAY KOMUNIKASI INDONESIAsebagai lembaga Negara.
3)Ketetapan Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat nomor……/MPR tentang Pengukuhan LSM KONTAK BUDAYA KOMUNIKASI INDONESIA SEBAGAI LEMBAGA NEGARA.
4)Ketetapan Mejelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat Nomor …../ MPR / 2008 tentang peran LSM Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia.
5)Undang-Undang Nmor 8 Thaun 1974 tentang okok-okok kepegawaian sebagaimana telah diubah dengan Undang-Undang Nomor 169, tambahan lembaran Negara nomor 3890.
DENGAN PERSETUJUAN BERSAMA ANTARA
DEWAN PERWAKILAN RAKYAT REPUBLIK INDONESIA
DAN
PRESIDEN REPUBLIK INDONESIA
MEMUTUSKAN
MENETAPKAN : UNDANG –UNDANG TENTANG PENGUKUHAN LSM (KOBUKI) KONTAK BUDAYA KOMUNIKASI INDONESIA SEBAGAI LEMBAGA NEGARA REPUBLIK INDONESIA.
BAB I
KETENTUAN UMUM
Pasal 1
Dalam Undang-Undang ini yang dimaksud dengan
1).Kobuki adalah segala hal-hal yang berkaitan dengan fungsi pada LSM KOBUKI sebagai Departemen Negara Republik Indonesia sesuai dengan peraturan perudang-undamngan.
2).Anggota LSM KOBUKI adalah pegawai negeri pada deprtemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia.
3) Pejabat KOBUKI adalah anggota Departemen Pemerintah Negara Republik Indonesia yang berdasarkan ungang-undang memiliki wewenang umm kekobukian,
3) Peraturan kekobukian adalah segala paraturan yang dikeluarkan oleh Kekobukian Negara Republik Indonesia dalam rangka memelihara persatuan dan kesatuan , ketertiban dan menjamin terwujudnya persatuan dan kesatuan sesuai dengan peraturan perundang-undangan .
5)Persatuan dan kesatuan masyarakat adalah suatu vimi dan misi serta kondisi dinamis masyarakat dalam rangka tercapainya tujuan nasional yang ditandai oleh terjaminnya perdamaian , ketertiban, serta mengembangkan potensi dadn kekuatan masyarakat dalam menangkal , mencegah perepecahan dan menanggulangi segala disintegrasi bangsa , dan bentuk-bentuk gangguan lainnya yang dapat meresahkan masyarakat.
6) Persatuan dan kesatuan dalam negeri adalah suatu keadaan yang ditandai terciptnya perdamaian dan ketertiban masyarakat, tertib dan tegaknya hukum , serta terselenggaranya perlindungan , pengayoman dan pelayanan kepada Masyarakat.
7) Kepentingan persatuan hukum adalah kepentingan masyarakat , adan atau kepentingan bangsa dan negara
demi terciptanya dan terjaminnya kemanan dalam negeri.
8) Buroks adalah pejabat kekobukian Negara republik Indonesia yang diberi wewenang oleh undang-undang mengkoordinir Barisan Urusan Reaksi Organisir kedamaian Semesta.
9) Buroks adalah pejabat sebagai rangkaian tindakan penyelamatan bangsa untuk mencari dan menemukan suatu peristiwa yang diduga sebagai tindak pidana . pelanggaran Undang-Undang anti teroris dapat atau tidaknya dilakuhkan penelitian menurut cara yang diatur dalam undang-Undang.
10)Kekobukian Republik Indonesia yang diberi wewenang oleh Undang-Undang oleh untuk melakuhkan permusyawaratan antar etnis diseluruh Wilayah Hukum Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia.
11) Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia sebagai mitra Kepolisin , Departemen kehakiman, , komisi konstitusi dan lembaga Negara Lainnya tertentu yang berdasarkan Undang-Undang ditunjuk dalam lingkup Undang-Undang yang menjadi dasar hukumnya masing-masing.
12)Untuk sementara waktu sebagai menteri Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dipegang langsung oleh Deklarartor , Ketua Umum, Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI Bapak DR.Nanang Hariadi SE.MSC (Gus Har) hingga masa jabatan yang ditentukan pada saat mendatang.
13) Pimpinan Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia yang selanjutnya disebut Menteri Negara Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia adalah Kepala departemen KOBUKI dan bertanggung jawab kepada Presiden .
14) Dan Sekretaris jendral Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dipegang oleh Sekjen terpilih hasil penunjukan Deklarator , Ketua Umum, Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI dengan persetujuan DPR dan Presiden Republik Indonesia.
Pasal 2
Fungsi Deparetem Kontak Budaya Komunkasi Indonesia adalah salah satu fungsi Pemerintah Negara dibidang pememliharaan perdamaian , ketertiban masyarakat, penegakan hukum, perlindungan dan Pengayoman serta pelayanan Masyarakat.
Pasal 3
1)Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia bertujuan untuk mewujudkan persatuan dan kesatuandalam negeri yang meliputi terpeliharanya kedamaian dan ketertiban masyarakat, tertib dan tegaknya hukum, terselenggaranya perlindungan, pengayoman dan pelayanan kepada masyarakat,serta terbinya ketenteraman masyarakat dangan menjunjung tinggi hak asasi manusia
Pasal 4
1)Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia merupakan lembaga negara yang berperan aktif dalam memelihara persatuan dan kesatuan masyarakat, menegakan hukum, serta memberikan perlindungan, pengayoman, dan pelayanan kepada masyarakat dalam rangka terpelihanya kedamaian dalam negeri.
2)Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia adalah lembaga negara yang merupakan suatu kesatuan dalam melaksanakan peran sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat I.
BAB II
SUSUNAN DAN KEDUDUKAN DEPARTEMEN KOBUKI
LEMBAGA NEGARA REPUBLIK INDONESIA
Pasal 5
1)Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dalam melaksanakan peran dan fungsi kepolisian sebagaimana dimaksud dalam pasal 2 dan 4 meliputi seluruh wilayah Negara Republik Indonesia.
2)Dalam rangka pelaksanaan peran dan fungsi Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia, diwilayah Negara Republik Indonesia dibagi dalam daerah hukum menurut kepentingan pelaksanaan tugas Departemen Kobuki Negara Republik Indonesia.
3)Ketentuan mengenai daerah hukum sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat 2 diatur dengan peraturan pemerintah.
Pasal 6
1)Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia di bawah Presiden
2)Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dipimpin oleh Menteri yang dalam pelaksanaan tugasnya bertanggung jawab kepada Presiden sesuai dengan peraturan perundang-undangan.
Pasal 7
1)Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia terdiri dari Dewan Pengurus Pusat, Dewan Pengurus Wilayah, Dewan Pengurus Cabang, Dewan Pengurus Anak Cabang, Dewan Pengurus Ranting sesuai stratifikesi dalam lembaga kenegaraan yang ada di negara kesatuan Republik Indonesia.
2)Untuk Dewan Pengurus dipimpin oleh seorang menteri untuk Dewan Pengurus Wilayah atau propinsi seorang kepala kanwil untuk Dewan Pengurus Cabang atau daerah Kabupaten, Kotamadya disebut kepala Dep KOBUKI daerah tingkat II.
3)Untuk Dewan Pengurus Anak Cabang dipimpin oleh seorang kepala DPAC dan untuk Dewan Pengurus Ranting dipimpin oleh seorang kepala DPRT
4)Untuk nama-nama jabatan dan pimpinan akan ditentukan oleh Peraturan Menteri Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia sesuai dengan keputusan undang-undang dan Peraturan Pemerintah lainnya.
5)Asmen (Asisten Menteri) Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia sebagaimana diatur dalam Peraturan Pemerintah dari Undang-undang Negara Republik Indonesia lainnya.
6)Lembaga-lembaga yang ada didalam Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia sebagaimana diatur dalam Peraturan Menteri yang di sesuaikan dengan Peraturan Pemerintah Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia.
Pasal 8
1)Menteri menetapkan, menyelenggarakan dan mengendalikan kebijakan teknis Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia.
2)Menteri memimpin Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dalm melaksanakan tugas dan bertanggung jawab atas :
a.Pelaksanaan kegiatan operasional Departemen KOBUKI dalam rangka pelaksanaan tugas kontak budaya komunikasi Indonesia lembaga negara dan
b.Penyelenggaraan pembinaan kemampuan anggota kontak budaya komunikasi Indonesia lembaga negara kesatuan Republik Indonesia.
Pasal 9
1)Pimpinan Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi di daerah hukum sebaimana dimaksud dalam pasal 5 ayat 7 bertanggung jawab atas pelaksanaan tugas dan wewenang departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia secara hirarki.
2)Ketentuan mengenai tanggung jawab secara hirarki sebaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) diatur lebih lanjut dengan keputusan Menteri Bapak Nanang Hariadi SE.
Pasal 10
1)Menteri Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia diangkat dan diberhentikan oleh Presiden dengan persetujuan Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat.
2)Usul pengangkatan dan pemberhentian Menteri diajukan oleh Presiden kepada dewan Perwakilan Rakyat disertai dengan alasannya.
3)Persetujuan atau penolakan Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat terhadap usul Presiden sebagaimana dimaksud ayat (2)harus diberikan dalam jangka waktu paling lambat 24 jam x 20 hari terhitung sejak tanggal Surat Presiden diterima oleh Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat.
4)Dalam hal Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat tidak memberikan jawaban dalam waktu sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat(3), calon yang diajukan oleh Presiden dianggap disetujui oleh Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat.
5)Dalam keadaan mendesak, Presiden dapat memberhentikan sementara Menteri Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dan mengangkat pelaksana tugas Kapolri dan selanjutnya dimintakan persetujuan oleh Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat.
6)Calon Menteri Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia adalah jabatan pengurus harian di tingkat pusat Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia yang masih aktif dengan memperhatikan jenjang kepangkatan dan karier
7)Tata cara pengusulan atas pengangkatan dan pemberhentian Menteri sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) diatur lebih lanjut dengan Keputusan Menteri Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia.
8)Ketentuan mengenai pengangkatan dan pemberhentian dalam jabatannya selain yang dimaksud dalam ayat (1) diatur lebih lanjut dengan Keputusan Menteri Departemen Kontak budaya Komunikasi Indonesia.
Pasal 11
1)Jabatan Brigade Urusan Reaksi Organisir Kedamaian Semesta (Buroks) adalah fungsional yang pejabatnya diangkat dengan Keputusan Menteri Departemen KOBUKI.
2)Jabatan fungsional lainnya dilingkungan Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia ditentukan dengan keputusan Menteri KOBUKI.
BAB 111
TUGAS WEWENANG
Pasal 12
Tugas pokok Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia adalah :
a)Memelihara persatuan dan kesatuan masyarakat Indonesia
b)Menegakan hukum.
c)Memberikan perlindungan, pengayoman dan pelayanan kepada masyarakat.
Pasal 13
1)Dalam melaksanakan tugas pokok sebagaimanadimaksud dalam pasal (12), Departemen Konyak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia bertugas :
a)Melaksanakan pengaturan, penjagaan dan patroli terhadap kegiatan masyarakat dan pemerintah sesuai kebutuhan.
b)Menyelenggarakan segala kegiatan dalam menjamin keamanan, ketertiban, dan kelancaran permusyawatan di segala aspek kehidupan.
c)Membina masyarakat untuk meningkatkan partisipasi masyarakat, kesadaran hukum masyarakat serta ketaatan warga masyarakat terhadap hukum dan peraturan perundang-undangan.
d)Turut serta dalam pembinaan hukum nasional.
e)Memelihara ketertiban dan menjamin kedamaian umum.
f)Melakukan Koordinasi, pembinaan teknis terhadap Departemen dan Lembaga Negara lain.
g)Melaksanakanperundingan-perundingan dan menyediakan semua sarana persatuan dan kesatuan sesuai dengan hukum dan peraturan perundang-undangan lainnya.
h)Menyelenggarakan identifikasi kekobukian, kedokteran, laboratorium forensic dan psikologi kekokukian untuk kepentingan tugas Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia.
i)Melindungi keselamatan jiwa raga, harta benda, masyarakat dan lingkungan hidup dari gangguan ketertiban dan atau bencana termasuk memberikan bantuan dan pertolongan dengan menjungjung tinggi hak asasi manusia.
j)Melayani kepentingan warga masyarakat untuk sementara sebelum ditangani oleh instansi dan atau pihak yang berwenang.
k)Memberikan pelayanan kepada masyarakat sesuai dengan kepentingan dalam lingkup tugas kontak budaya komunikasi Indonesia serta
l)Melaksanakan tugas sesuai dengan peraturan perundang-undangan.
2)Tata cara pelaksanaan ketentuan sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) huruf F diatur lebih lanjut dengan Peraturan Pemerintah.
Pasal 14
1)Dalam rangka menyelenggarakan tugas sebagaimana dimaksud dalam pasal (12) dan (13) Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia secara umum berwenang :
a)Menerima laporan dan pengaduan
b)Membantu menyelesaikan perselisihan warga masuarakat yang dapat mengganggu ketertiban umum.
c)Mencegah dan menanggulangi tumbuhnya penyakit masyarakat
d) Mengawasi aliran yang dapat menimbulkan percepahan atau mengacam persatuan dan kesatuan Bangsa.
e) Mengeluarkan peraturan dalam lingkup kewenangan administrasi kekobukian.
f)Melaksanakan pemeriksaan khusus sebagai bagian dari tindakan kekobukian dalam rangka pencegahan
g)Melakukan tinadakan pertama di tempat kejadian
h)Mengambil identitas serta memotret seseorang
i)Mencari keterangan dan barang bukti
j)menyelenggarakan Pusat Informasi Kriminal Nasional
k)Mengeuarkan surat izin dan atau surat keteramgam yang diperlukan dalam rangka pelayanan masyarakat
l)memberikan bantuan penyelesaian perselisihan dalam masyarakat organisasi, dan instansi lain serta kegiatan masyarakat pada umumnya
m)Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia sesuai peraturan perundang-undangan lainnya yang berwenang
2)Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia sesuai dengan peraturan perundang-undangan lainnya yang berwenang
a)Memberikan izin dan mengawasi kegiatan keramaian umum dan kegiatan masyarakat lainnya
b)Menyelenggarakan registerasi dan identifikasi parkiran dan seminar-seminar serta kegiatan yang bersifat mengumpulkan massa
c)Memberikan surat izin menyelenggarakan kegiatan-kegiatan budaya dan kegiatan seperti pada huruf b diatas .
d) Menerima pemberitaan tentang kegiatan Politik.
e) Memeberikan izin operasional dan melakuhkan pengawasan Senjata Api bahan peledak dan senjata Tajam lainnya.
f)Memberikan izin operasional danmelakuhkan pengawasan terhadap usaha dibidang jasa perdamaian.
g) Memberikan petunjuk , mendidik , dan melatih Aparat Kekobukian khusus dan bertugas penendalian masyarakat dalam bidang teknis Kekobukian.
h)Melakukkan pengawasan Fungsional kekobukian Negara lain dalam memberantas Kejahatan Internasional.
i) Melakuhkan pengawasan Fungsional Kekobukian terhadap orang asing yang berada di wilayah Indonesia dengan koordinasi instansi yang berada di wilayah Indonesia dengan instansi yang terkait.
j) Mewakili Pemerintah Republik Indonesia dalam Lembaga Swadaya masyarakat internasional.
k) Melaksanakan kewenangan lain yang termasuk dalam lingkup Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia .
3) Tata cara pelaksanaan ketetntuan sebagaiman dalam ayat 2 huruf a dan b diatur lebih lanjutun dengan peraturan Pemerintah.
Pasal 15
Dalam rangka menyelenggarakan tugas sebagaimana dimaksud dalam pasal (12) dan (13) dibidang proses pidana, Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia berwenang untuk :
a)Melakukan penangkapan, penahanan, penggeledahan dan penyitaan.
b)Melarang setiap orang meninggalkan atau memasuki tempat kejadian perkara untuk kepenitngan penanganan
c)Menyuruh berhenti orang yang dicurigai dan menanyakan serta memeriksa tanda pengenal diri.
d)Melakukan pemeriksaan dan penyitaan surat
e)Memanggil orang untuk didengar dan diperiksa sebagai tersamgka atau saksi
f)Mengadakan penghentian penanganan
g)Menyerahkan berkas perkara kepada pihak yang berwajib
h)Mengajukan permintaan secara langsung kepada pejabat yang berwenang di tempat pemeriksaan lembaga negara dalam keadaan mendesak atau mendadak untuk mencegah atau menangkal orang yang disangka melakukan tindak pidana
i)Memberi petunjuk dan bantuan penanganan kepada Buroks dan pegawai sipil sertamenerima hasil penanganan Buroks dan pegawai Negeri Sipil untuk diserahkan kepada yang berwajib dan
j)Mengadakan tindakan lain menurut hukum yang bertanggung jawab.
Tindakan lain sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat 1 huruf (a) adalah tindakan penanganan dan penanganan yang dilaksanakan jika memenuhi syarat sebagai berikut :
a)Tidak bertentangan dengan suatu aturan hukum
b)Selaras dengan kewajiban hukum yang mengharuskan tindakan tersebut dilakukan
c)Harus patut, masuk akal, dan termasuk dalam lingkungan jabatannya
d)Pertimbangan yang layak berdasarkan keadaan yang memaksa dan
e)Menghormati hak asasi manusia
Pasal 16
Pejabat Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia menjalankan tugas dan wewenangnya di seluruh wilayah negara Republik Indonesia khususnya di daerah hukum pejabat yang bersangkutan ditugaskan sesuai dengan peraturan perundang-undangan
Pasal 17
1)Untuk kepentingan umum pejabat KOBUKI dalam melaksanakan tugas dan wewenangnya dapat bertindak menurut penilaian sendiri.
2)Pelaksanaan ketentuan sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) hanya dapat dilakukan dalam keadaan yang sangat perlu untuk memperhatikan peraturan perundang0-undangan , serta kode etik profesi Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia.
Pasal 18
1) Dalam melaksanakan tugas dari wewenang pejabat Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia senantiasa bertindak berdasarkan norma hukum dan mengindahkan nama agama, kesopanan , kesusilaan , serta menjunjung tinggi hak asasi manusia .
2)lam melaksanakan tugas dan wewenang sbagaimana yang di maksud dalam ayat (1) Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia mengutamakan tindakan pencegahan.
BAB IV
ANGGOTA DEPARTEMEN
KONTAK BUDAYA KOMUNIKASI INDONESIA
(KOBUKI)
Pasal 19
1) Pegawai Negeri pada Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia terdiri :
a) Anggota kekobukian Negara Republik Indonesia dan.
b) Pegawai Negeri Sipil.
2) Terhadap pegawai negeri sipil sebagimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) huruf b ketentuan peraturan perundang-undangan dibidang kepegawaian .
Pasal 20
1) Untuk diangkat menjadi anggota KOBUKI seorang calon harus memenuhi syarat sekurang –kuranganya :
a)Warga Negara Indonesia
b) Beriman dan bertaqwa kepada Tuhan Yang Maha Esa.
c)Setia kepada Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia berdasarkan Pancasila dan Undang-Undang Dasra 1945 yang telah diamandemen.
d)Berpendidikan paling rendah Sekolah menegah Umum dan sederajatnya.
e) Berumur paling rendah 18 (delapan belas) ) Tahun.
f) Sehat Jasmani dan Rohani .
g) Tidak pernah dipidana karena melakuhkan tindak tercelah .
h) Berwibawa , jujur, adil, dan berkelakuan tidak tercela dan
i) Lulus pendidikan dan pelatihan anggota Kekobukian.
2) Ketentuan mengenai pembinaan anggota Departemen KOBUKI diatur lebih lanjut dengan Keputusan Menteri, Ketua Umum dan Deklarator KOBUKI.
Pasal 21
1) Sebelum diangkat sebagai anggota KOBUKI Negara Republik Indonesia , seorang calon anggota yang telah lulus pembentukan wajib mengucapkan sumph atau janji menurut agamanya dan kpercayaannya itu.
2) Ketentuan mengenai tata cara Pengambilan sumpah janji sebagiman dimaksud dalam ayat (1) diatur lebih lanjut dengan keputusan Menteri Ajaraham , Deklarator KOBUKI Bapak Prof.DR.(PhD) Nanang Hariadi SE.MSc. (Gus Har).
Pasal 22
Lafal sumpah atau janji sebagiaman diatur dalam pasal 21 adalah sebagi berikut :
Demi Aloh , saya bersumpah/berjanji
Bahwa saya untuk diangkat menjadi Anggota KOBUKI akan setia dan taat sepenuhnya kepada Pancasila , Undang-Undang dasr Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia Tahun 1945 , sumpah dan janji , ikrar Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia piranti KOBUKI dan Negara Kesatuan republik Indonesia serta pemerintah yang syah.
Bahwa saya , akan mentaati segala pearutran perundang0undangan yang berlaku dan melaksanakan kedinasan diDepertemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia yang dipercayakan kepada saya dengan penuh pengabdian , kesadaran dan tanggung jawab. Anggota KOBUKI , serta akan senantiasa mengutamakan kepentingan masyarakat , bangsa dan Negara daripada kepentingan saya sendiri , seorang atau golongan.
Bahwa saya, akan bekerja dengan jujur , tertib , cermat dan bersemangat untuk kepentingan Bangsa dan Negara Republik Indonesia dan tidak akan menerima pemberian berupa hadiah dan atau janji-janji baik langsung maupun tidak langsung yang ada kaitannya dengan pekerjaan saya.
Pasal 23
1) Setiap anggota KOBUKI menjalani dinas keanggotaan dengan ikatan dinas .
2) Ketentuan mengenai ikatan dinas sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) diatur lebih lanjut dengan keputusan Presiden.
Pasal 24
1) Setiap anggota KOBUKI diberi pangkat yang mencerminkan peran , fungsi dan kemampuan serta sebagai keabsaan wewenang dan tanggung jawab dalam penugasannya.
2) ketetntuan mengenai susunan , sebutan , dan keselarasan pangkat-pangkat sebagiamana domaksud dalam ayat (1) diatur lebih lanjut dengan keputusan Menteri , Deklarator , Ajaraham , Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia (KOBUKI ) Bapak Prof.DR.(PhD) Nanang Hariadi SE.MSc. (Gus Har).
Pasal 25
1) Setiap anggota KOBUKI memperoleh gaji dan hak-haka lain yang adil dan layak.
2) Ketetntuan mengenai gaji dan hak-hak lainnya sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) diatur lebih lanjut dengan peraturan Pemerintah.
Pasal 26
1) Untuk membina persatuan dan kesatuan serta meningkatkan semangat kerja dan moril , diadakan peraturan disiplin Anggota Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia.
2) Ketentuan mengenai peraturan disiplin sebagiaman dimaksud dalam ayat (1) diatur lebih lanjut dengan peraturan Pemerintah.
Pasal 27
1) KOBUKI bersikap netral dalam kehidupan Politk dan tidak melibatkan diri pada kegiatan Politik Praktis.
Pasal 28
1) Anggota KOBUKI tunduk pada kekuasaan Peraliahan Umum.
2) Ketentuan sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) diatur lebih lanjut dengan peraturan Pemerintah.
Pasal 29
1) Anggota KOBUKI dapat diberhentikan dengan hormat atau tidak hormat .
2) Usia pensiunan maksimun anggota KOBUKI 63 (enam puluh tiga ) tahun dan bagi anggota yang memiliki keAhlian khusus dan sangat dibutuhkan dalam tugas KOBUKI dapat dipertahankan sampai usia 65 (Enam Puluh Lima ) Tahun.
3) Pelaksanaan Ketentuan sebagaimana dikamsuh dalam ayat (1) dan (2) diatur lebih lanjut dengan Peraturan Pemerintah.
BAB V
PEMBINAAN PROFESI
Pasal 30
Pejabat Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dalam melaksanakan tugas dan wewenang harus memiliki kemampuan Profesi.
Pasal 31
Pembinaan kemampuan profesi pejabat Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia diselenggarakan melalui pembinaan etika profesi dan pengembangan penegtahuan serta pengalaman dibidang tehnis kekobukian melalui pendidikan , pelatihan dan penugasan secara berjenjang dan berlanjut.
Pasal 32
1) Pembinaan kemampuan profesi sebagaimana dimaksud dalam pasal 31 dilakukan pengkajian –pengkajian, penelitian , serta penegembangan Ilmu dan teknologi Kekobukian.
Pasal 33
1) Sikap dan perilaku pejabat KOBUKI terikat pada kode etik Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia .
2) Kode etik profesi kekobukian dapat menjadi pedoman bagi pengemban Fungsi kekobukian lainnya dalam melaksanakan tugas sesuai dengan peraturan Perundang-Undangan yang belaku di lingkungan nya.
3) Ketentuan Kode Etik Kekobukian oleh Pejabat Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia diatur dengan keputusan Menteri , Deklarator , Ajaraham KOBUKI Bapak Prof.DR.(PhD) Nanang Hariadi SE.MSc (Gus Har ).
Pasal 34
1) Pelanggaran terhadap Kode Etik Profesi Kekobukian oleh Pejabat Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia diselesaikan oleh Komisi Kode Etik Departemen KONTAK BUDAYA KOMUNIKASI INDONESIA.
2) Ketetntuan mengenai susunan organisasi dan tata kerja komisis Kode Etik kekobukian di atur dengan keputusan Menteri , Deklarator , Ajaraham KOBUKI Bapak Prof.DR(PhD) Nanang Hariadi SE.MSc (Gus Har) .
Pasal 35
1) Setiap Pejabat Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dan pengemban fungsi kekobukian lainnya wajib menunjukkan tanda pengenal sebagai keabsahan wewenang dan tanggung jawab dalam mengemban Fungsinya.
2) Ketentuan mengenai berntuk , ukuran pengeluaran , pemakaian dan tanda pengenal sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) diatur dengan keputusan Menteri , Deklarator , AJARAHAM KOBUKI Bapak Prof.DR(PhD) Nanang Hariadi SE.MSc. (Gus Har) .
BAB VI
LEMBAGA KOBUKI NASIONAL
Pasal 36
1) Lembaga KOBUKI Nasional yang dimaksud dengan Komisi kekobukian kedudukan di bawah dan tanggung jawab kepada Presiden , Ketua MPR, Ketua DPR.
2) Komisi KOBUKI Nasional sebagaiman dimaksud dalam ayat (1) dibentuk dengan keputusan Presiden dan Ketetapan DPR MPR RI.
Pasal 37
1) Komisi KOBUKI Nasional bertugas :
a) Membantu Presiden dan DPR MPR RI dalam menetapkan apakah kebijakan Departemen Kontak Budaya KomunikSi Indonesia dan.
b) Memberikan pertimbangan kepada Presiden DPR , MPR RI dalam pengangkatan dan pemberhentian Menteri, Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia.
2) Dalam melaksanakan tugas sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) Komisi KOBUKI Nasional berwenang untuk :
a)Mengumpulkan dan menganalisis dan sebagai bahan pemerian saran kepada Presiden yang berkaitan dengan Anggaran Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia , pengembangan Sumber Daya Manusia kekobukian , pengemban sarana dan prasarana Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia.
b) Memberikan saran dan pertimbangan lain kepada Presiden DPR MPR RI , dalam mewujudkan Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia yang professional mandiri dan,
c)Menerima saran dan keluhan dari Masyarakat mengenai kinerja kekobukian dan menyampaikan Kepada Presiden .
Pasal 38
1) Keanggotaan KOMISI KOBUKI Nasional terdiri atas seorang ketua merangkap anggota seorang sekretaris merangkap anggota dan 9 (sembilanb) orang anggota.
2) Keanggotaan sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) berasal dari unsure-unsur pemerintah pakar kekobukian , dan tokoh masyarakat.
3) Ketetntuan mengenai susunan organisasi , tata kerja pengangkatan dan pemberhentian anggota Komisi kekobukian Nasional diatur dengan keputusan Presiden.
Pasal 39
Segala pembiayaan yang diperlukan untuk mendukung pelaksanaan tugas komisi KOBUKI Nasional dibebenkan pada Anggaran Pendapatn dan Belanja Negara.
BAB VII
BANTUAN HUBUNGAN , DAN KERJA SAMA
Pasal 40
1) Dalam melaksanakan tugas kedamaian , Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dapat meminta bantuan POLRI ,TNI, yang diatur lebih lanjut dengan peraturan Pemerintah.
2) Dalam keadaan darurat militer dan keadaan perang , Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia sesuai dengan peraturan perundang-undangan.
3) Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia membantu secara aktif tugas pemeliharaan perdamaian dunia dibawah bendera perserikatan Bangsa-bangsa.
Pasal 41
1) Hubungan dan kerja sama Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dengan badan , lembaga , serta didalam dan diluar negeri didasarkan atas sendi-sendi hubungan Fungsional, saling menghormati , saling membantu , mengutakan kepentingan umum serta memeprhatiakn hirarki.
2)Hubungan dan kerjasama dalam Negeri dilakukan terutama dengan unsure-unsur pemerintah daerah , penegak hukum , badan lembaga , instansi lain , serta masyarakat dengan daerah,penegak hukum, badan lembaga , instansi lain ,serta masyarakat dengan mengembangkan azas pertisipasi dan subsidiartitas.
3)Hubungan kerjasama luar Negeri dialukukan terutama dengan badan-badan kepolisian dan penegak hukum lain , melalui kerja sama bilateral atau multiteral dan badan pencegahan peperangan baik dalam rangka tugas operasional maupun kerjasama teknik dan pendidikan serta pelatihan.
4) Pelaksanaan ketentuan sebagaimana dimaksud dalam ayat (1) ,(2) dan (3) diatur dengan peraturan pemerintah.
BAB VIII
KETENTUAN PERALIHAN
Pasal 42
Pada saat Undang-Undang ini mulai berlaku:
a) Semua peraturan perundang-undangn yang merupakan pelaksanaan mengenai Departemen Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia dinyatakan setiap berlaku sepanjang tidak bertentangan dengan undang-undang ini .
b) Tindak Pidana yang dilakukan oleh KOBUKI yang sedang diperiksa baik ditingkat pengadilan yang mempunyai kekuatan hukum tetap berlaku ketentuan peraturan perundang-undangan peradilan militer dan belum mendapat putusan pengadilan yang mempunyai kekuatan hukum tetap berlaku ketentuan peraturan perundang-idsangan peradialn militer.
c)Tindak Pidana yang dilakuhkan oleh Anggota KOBUKI yang belum diperiksa baik ditingkat penyidikan maupuan pemeriksaan di pengadilan militer berlaku ketentuan peraturan perundsang0undangan dilingkungan peradilan umum.
BAB IX
KETENTUAN PENUTUP
Pasal 43
Pada saat Undang-Undang ini mulai berlaku Undang-Undang Nomor ……. Tahun 2008 tentang Pengukuhan LSM KONTAK BUDAYA KOMUNIKASI INDONESIA (Lembaran Negara Republik Indonesia tahun 2008 Nomor …… Tambahan lembaran Negara Republik Indonesia Nomor……. Dinyatakan berlaku)
Pasal 44
Undang-Undang ini mulai berlaku pada tanggal diundangkan , Agar setiap orang mengetahui nya pemerintah mengundangkan Undang-Undang ini dengan penetapan dalam lembaran Negara Republik Indonesia.
Disahkan di Jakarta
Pada tanggal ……./…… 2008
PRESIDEN REPUBLIK INDONESIA
Ttd
DR.H SUSILO BAMBANG YUDHOYONO
Pada Tanggal ………/……. 2008
SEKRETARIS NEGARA
REPUBLIK INDONESIA
Ttd
Prof.DR Yusril Izza Mahendra
LEMBARAN NEGERA REPUBLIK INDONESIA
TAHUN 2008 NOMOR……………
Team Penyusun :
OPENING REMARKS
BY
HIS EXCELLENCY DR. SUSILO BAMBANG YUDHOYONO
PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA
AT A BREAKFAST MEETING
WITH AUSTRALASIA AND THE AUSTRALIA INDONESIA
BUSINESS COUNCIL
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA, 5 APRIL 2005
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Introduction:
Let me begin by thanking The Asia Society Australasia Center and the Australia Indonesia Business Council for inviting me to speak here today.
I am pleased to meet all of you here in Sydney. I fondly remember visiting your beautiful city back in 2003 as Co-ordinating Minister for Politics and Security. Back then, I had a feeling that I would return to this city, though I certainly did not imagine that I would come as Indonesia’s President.
The nice thing about being President, of course, is that when you are invited to give an address, no matter what topic they assign you, they usually let you speak about anything you want.
So today, I wish to speak to you about two subjects. First, the question of how Indonesia is doing, especially since the new political landscape that was created after the historic Parliamentary and Presidential elections last year,
The second subject is my favorite, that is, on the improved state of Indonesia – Australia relations, and how it can translate into greater business opportunities for you.
Let me start with the first subject : how is Indonesia doing ? Are things changing ? Are things changing for the better ?
The simple answer to that is “yes”. Let me offer 3 points to support the proposition that Indonesia is moving forward steadily, but surely.
First, our political development and democratic transition is robust.
If you have not been to Indonesia lately, you will hardly recognize the political landscape.
Democracy is alive and kicking. Civil society is thriving, and so is freedom of speech and of the press. Political participation is strong. The Parliament is very active and independent. The relationship and responsibilities between the Presidency and the Legislature is much clearer than before. And for the first time, an Indonesian President is directly elected by the electorate. We are also seeing the return of political stability and certainty as the present political arrangement is expected to hold-up until the next elections in 2009.
And there is definitely a new “energy” since the historic elections of 2004. The great yearning for change, so predominant during the elections, now takes the form of huge expectations for my administration. These expectations drive me and my Government to do our best, but I must admit that these expectations at the beginning were too high. After my first 100 days, I think the people are developing more realistic expectations.
Secondly, our economy is steady, stable, growing and full of opportunities.
In 2004, Indonesia was able to maintain macroeconomic stability with inflation at 6.4 percent and growth at 5.1 percent.
This year, we expect growth to pick up to 5.5 percent, and with the right policies, we are convinced we will achieve our target for an average growth rate of 6.6 percent in the next five years. Per capita income is now higher than prior to the crisis at over $1000/capita.
We are also managing our fiscal situation with debt levels coming down and the deficit under control. My decision on March 1, to raise the price 29% certain oil products was politically difficult but economically necessary for our long-term growth. With the fiscal situation vastly improved, Indonesia now has one of the smallest deficits in Asia, with budget deficit outcomes being below forecast in recent years.
Debt levels have gone down rapidly and are expected to continue to do so. The debt to GDP ratio has been successfully reduced from 99% in 2000 to 53% in 2004. It is predicted that by the end of 2005 the debt to GDP in 2004 will decline to 48%. This is considered very good even by OECD standard.
By the end of 2004, the sign of investment recovery are evident with the import of capital goods increasing by 44 percent, investment rising by 11 percent, and for the first time since the crisis, we are seeing net capital inflows.
I happily note that confidence in Indonesia is growing, with upgrades being undertaken by various Rating Agencies, booming stock market, increases in the pledge by donors at the recent CGI (Consultative Group on Indonesia) meeting in January, For example:
Moody’s upgraded Indonesia two-notch in 2003 to B2, once in June and other in September.
S&P upgraded Indonesia three-notches in 2003 and 2004 to B+ (in May 2003, October 2003 and December 2004).
And Fitch upgraded long term local and foreign currency sovereign ratings from B+ to BB- with positive outlook (January 2005).
So the signposts are good, and I have every confidence that we will stay on track
towards growth.
And thirdly, we are holding up well despite being the Government with arguably the worst luck for getting one bad break after another. The hardest part of my Presidency is dealing with the unknowns, and there have been too many of them. The earthquake in Nabire, the earthquake in Alor, the massive tsunami in Aceh and North Sumatra, the flood in South Sumatra, the earthquake in Nias.
I think there is a quality of resilience and endurance about Indonesia that is simply remarkable. And each tragedy seems to make us even stronger as a nation.
I suppose the bottom line is that Indonesia is transforming rapidly-not just changing, but transforming.
And as Indonesia is fast transforming, Indonesia – Australia relations are also undergoing transformation.
This is the third day of my visit in Australia, and everything I have seen so far convinced me even more that Indonesia and Australia are headed for stronger, closer, better relations.
Yesterday, Prime Minister Howard and I announced a Comprehensive Partnership that promises a new era of bilateral relations between Indonesia and Australia. This Partnership promises to strengthen what is already one of Indonesia’s most elaborate relations with any country.
This Comprehensive Partnership affects you, the business community, because ultimately what fuels this partnership is the people. The more people interact, the more students exchange, the more businessmen connect, the stronger the partnership.
I believe that we are ready to embark on a broader, deeper and mutually advantageous relationship based on not just G-G relations, but most importantly B-B (business-to-business).
After all, this has proved to be the more resilient part of our links. Our bilateral relations may have its ups and downs, but the economic and business relations between our two countries generally have not been affected by them.
Just look at our trade.
Trade between our two countries have continued grow, with two way trade reaching A$ 8.49 billion. Indonesia is Australia’s 10th largest markets, with Australian exports rising to A$ 4.23 billion, while Indonesian exports to Australia reached A$ 4.26 billion.
Meanwhile, approved Australian investment in Indonesia reached $ 3.9 billion making it the 7th largest investor. A number of Australian companies have significant investments and a long history of involvement in the Indonesian mining and energy sector. Australian businesses have also entered into the agro-based sectors and the financial, health and education sectors.
But please excuse me for saying this, for I think our business links can do better. Much better.
There are plenty of new investment opportunities that have not been fully harnessed. For example, the Joint Working Group on Agriculture and Food industry recently identified the following opportunities in Indonesian food and agriculture industries for Australian businesses : growth potential for cheese production, good prospects for business alliances in the high growth beverage sector, downstream processing of beef, bakery and cereal production, and new and novel food ingredients.
There are also opportunities in infrastructure development, which is a top priority for my Government’s economic program. In January this year, we held a major infrastructure summit in Jakarta, after which 91 projects worth $22.4 billion, out of the total of $156 billion, will be tendered in 2005.
20 projects have been announced in Tranche I in March, and the remainder in June. These include toll roads, electricity, gas, transportations and telecommunication projects. The government has a plan of mutually beneficial public-private sector partnership in infrastructure investment for the commercially viable sectors. For those sectors that are not attractive for private investment, the government will use its own resources.
In persuading you to take part in Indonesia’s infrastructure development opportunities, I am of course aware of the issues that are of concern to foreign investors. Bureaucratic bottlenecks, completing needed policy and regulatory reforms, and the risk management framework–yes, we are working hard on this.
The government is also working hard to improve the general investment climate and reduce the costs of doing business in Indonesia. Firstly, the government is currently reviewing the investment law to ensure national treatment and provide clear guidelines.
Second, we reviewing the approval, registration and licensing procedures with the objective of streamlining and providing transparency. We hope to achieve these improvements beginning this year.
Third, we are committed to addressing key issues already identified by the business sector as burdening the costs of doing business. The labor regulations related to retrenchment, outsourcing and contract labor, and wage setting are being reviewed with the objective of finding a better balance between the need to protect workers on the one hand, and overburdening employees and contributing to an inflexible labor market, on the other hand.
We are also undertaking a comprehensive review in order to reduce the number, cost and time to process exports and imports, and reducing the time and administration costs at the tax and customs departments.
On the issue of decentralization, we are reviewing the various overlapping regulations between the central government and local governments with the focus on improving legal certainty and efficiency.
Fourth, we know that the issue of legal certainty is of important concern for investors. We are doing a number of things to address this.
We are reviewing and amending laws and regulations, harmonizing rules and regulations, establishing new courts and improving the management of courts.
Finally, my government has and will continue to take a firm stance against corruption. We have enacted the necessary laws and regulations and we have also taken action in a growing number of corruption cases of government and non government officials.
There is also the acceleration of the action-oriented program to address illegal logging which has resulted in the seizure of tons of illegal logs and the arrests and prosecution of those allegedly involved.
So there you have it. A new President. A new Parliament. A new Indonesia. An exciting new bilateral relations between Indonesia and Australia. And a whole set of new business opportunities for you.
My only hope is that you take advantage of all this. And that is why I am here today to PERSONALLY convince you that if you invest your money with us, you WILL grow with us, your investment WILL be in good hands and good prospects.
I am convinced that Indonesia is well on its way to an exciting new era of growth, dynamism and progress for Indonesia.
Be part of it. Profit from it. Join us in investing in Indonesia future.
I thank you, and I look forward to our discussions.
—
________________________________________
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AUSTRALIA
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OPENING REMARKS
BY
HIS EXCELLENCY DR. SUSILO BAMBANG YUDHOYONO
PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA
AT A BREAKFAST MEETING
WITH AUSTRALASIA AND THE AUSTRALIA INDONESIA
BUSINESS COUNCIL
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA, 5 APRIL 2005
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Introduction:
Let me begin by thanking The Asia Society Australasia Center and the Australia Indonesia Business Council for inviting me to speak here today.
I am pleased to meet all of you here in Sydney. I fondly remember visiting your beautiful city back in 2003 as Co-ordinating Minister for Politics and Security. Back then, I had a feeling that I would return to this city, though I certainly did not imagine that I would come as Indonesia’s President.
The nice thing about being President, of course, is that when you are invited to give an address, no matter what topic they assign you, they usually let you speak about anything you want.
So today, I wish to speak to you about two subjects. First, the question of how Indonesia is doing, especially since the new political landscape that was created after the historic Parliamentary and Presidential elections last year,
The second subject is my favorite, that is, on the improved state of Indonesia – Australia relations, and how it can translate into greater business opportunities for you.
Let me start with the first subject : how is Indonesia doing ? Are things changing ? Are things changing for the better ?
The simple answer to that is “yes”. Let me offer 3 points to support the proposition that Indonesia is moving forward steadily, but surely.
First, our political development and democratic transition is robust.
If you have not been to Indonesia lately, you will hardly recognize the political landscape.
Democracy is alive and kicking. Civil society is thriving, and so is freedom of speech and of the press. Political participation is strong. The Parliament is very active and independent. The relationship and responsibilities between the Presidency and the Legislature is much clearer than before. And for the first time, an Indonesian President is directly elected by the electorate. We are also seeing the return of political stability and certainty as the present political arrangement is expected to hold-up until the next elections in 2009.
And there is definitely a new “energy” since the historic elections of 2004. The great yearning for change, so predominant during the elections, now takes the form of huge expectations for my administration. These expectations drive me and my Government to do our best, but I must admit that these expectations at the beginning were too high. After my first 100 days, I think the people are developing more realistic expectations.
Secondly, our economy is steady, stable, growing and full of opportunities.
In 2004, Indonesia was able to maintain macroeconomic stability with inflation at 6.4 percent and growth at 5.1 percent.
This year, we expect growth to pick up to 5.5 percent, and with the right policies, we are convinced we will achieve our target for an average growth rate of 6.6 percent in the next five years. Per capita income is now higher than prior to the crisis at over $1000/capita.
We are also managing our fiscal situation with debt levels coming down and the deficit under control. My decision on March 1, to raise the price 29% certain oil products was politically difficult but economically necessary for our long-term growth. With the fiscal situation vastly improved, Indonesia now has one of the smallest deficits in Asia, with budget deficit outcomes being below forecast in recent years.
Debt levels have gone down rapidly and are expected to continue to do so. The debt to GDP ratio has been successfully reduced from 99% in 2000 to 53% in 2004. It is predicted that by the end of 2005 the debt to GDP in 2004 will decline to 48%. This is considered very good even by OECD standard.
By the end of 2004, the sign of investment recovery are evident with the import of capital goods increasing by 44 percent, investment rising by 11 percent, and for the first time since the crisis, we are seeing net capital inflows.
I happily note that confidence in Indonesia is growing, with upgrades being undertaken by various Rating Agencies, booming stock market, increases in the pledge by donors at the recent CGI (Consultative Group on Indonesia) meeting in January, For example:
Moody’s upgraded Indonesia two-notch in 2003 to B2, once in June and other in September.
S&P upgraded Indonesia three-notches in 2003 and 2004 to B+ (in May 2003, October 2003 and December 2004).
And Fitch upgraded long term local and foreign currency sovereign ratings from B+ to BB- with positive outlook (January 2005).
So the signposts are good, and I have every confidence that we will stay on track
towards growth.
And thirdly, we are holding up well despite being the Government with arguably the worst luck for getting one bad break after another. The hardest part of my Presidency is dealing with the unknowns, and there have been too many of them. The earthquake in Nabire, the earthquake in Alor, the massive tsunami in Aceh and North Sumatra, the flood in South Sumatra, the earthquake in Nias.
I think there is a quality of resilience and endurance about Indonesia that is simply remarkable. And each tragedy seems to make us even stronger as a nation.
I suppose the bottom line is that Indonesia is transforming rapidly-not just changing, but transforming.
And as Indonesia is fast transforming, Indonesia – Australia relations are also undergoing transformation.
This is the third day of my visit in Australia, and everything I have seen so far convinced me even more that Indonesia and Australia are headed for stronger, closer, better relations.
Yesterday, Prime Minister Howard and I announced a Comprehensive Partnership that promises a new era of bilateral relations between Indonesia and Australia. This Partnership promises to strengthen what is already one of Indonesia’s most elaborate relations with any country.
This Comprehensive Partnership affects you, the business community, because ultimately what fuels this partnership is the people. The more people interact, the more students exchange, the more businessmen connect, the stronger the partnership.
I believe that we are ready to embark on a broader, deeper and mutually advantageous relationship based on not just G-G relations, but most importantly B-B (business-to-business).
After all, this has proved to be the more resilient part of our links. Our bilateral relations may have its ups and downs, but the economic and business relations between our two countries generally have not been affected by them.
Just look at our trade.
Trade between our two countries have continued grow, with two way trade reaching A$ 8.49 billion. Indonesia is Australia’s 10th largest markets, with Australian exports rising to A$ 4.23 billion, while Indonesian exports to Australia reached A$ 4.26 billion.
Meanwhile, approved Australian investment in Indonesia reached $ 3.9 billion making it the 7th largest investor. A number of Australian companies have significant investments and a long history of involvement in the Indonesian mining and energy sector. Australian businesses have also entered into the agro-based sectors and the financial, health and education sectors.
But please excuse me for saying this, for I think our business links can do better. Much better.
There are plenty of new investment opportunities that have not been fully harnessed. For example, the Joint Working Group on Agriculture and Food industry recently identified the following opportunities in Indonesian food and agriculture industries for Australian businesses : growth potential for cheese production, good prospects for business alliances in the high growth beverage sector, downstream processing of beef, bakery and cereal production, and new and novel food ingredients.
There are also opportunities in infrastructure development, which is a top priority for my Government’s economic program. In January this year, we held a major infrastructure summit in Jakarta, after which 91 projects worth $22.4 billion, out of the total of $156 billion, will be tendered in 2005.
20 projects have been announced in Tranche I in March, and the remainder in June. These include toll roads, electricity, gas, transportations and telecommunication projects. The government has a plan of mutually beneficial public-private sector partnership in infrastructure investment for the commercially viable sectors. For those sectors that are not attractive for private investment, the government will use its own resources.
In persuading you to take part in Indonesia’s infrastructure development opportunities, I am of course aware of the issues that are of concern to foreign investors. Bureaucratic bottlenecks, completing needed policy and regulatory reforms, and the risk management framework–yes, we are working hard on this.
The government is also working hard to improve the general investment climate and reduce the costs of doing business in Indonesia. Firstly, the government is currently reviewing the investment law to ensure national treatment and provide clear guidelines.
Second, we reviewing the approval, registration and licensing procedures with the objective of streamlining and providing transparency. We hope to achieve these improvements beginning this year.
Third, we are committed to addressing key issues already identified by the business sector as burdening the costs of doing business. The labor regulations related to retrenchment, outsourcing and contract labor, and wage setting are being reviewed with the objective of finding a better balance between the need to protect workers on the one hand, and overburdening employees and contributing to an inflexible labor market, on the other hand.
We are also undertaking a comprehensive review in order to reduce the number, cost and time to process exports and imports, and reducing the time and administration costs at the tax and customs departments.
On the issue of decentralization, we are reviewing the various overlapping regulations between the central government and local governments with the focus on improving legal certainty and efficiency.
Fourth, we know that the issue of legal certainty is of important concern for investors. We are doing a number of things to address this.
We are reviewing and amending laws and regulations, harmonizing rules and regulations, establishing new courts and improving the management of courts.
Finally, my government has and will continue to take a firm stance against corruption. We have enacted the necessary laws and regulations and we have also taken action in a growing number of corruption cases of government and non government officials.
There is also the acceleration of the action-oriented program to address illegal logging which has resulted in the seizure of tons of illegal logs and the arrests and prosecution of those allegedly involved.
So there you have it. A new President. A new Parliament. A new Indonesia. An exciting new bilateral relations between Indonesia and Australia. And a whole set of new business opportunities for you.
My only hope is that you take advantage of all this. And that is why I am here today to PERSONALLY convince you that if you invest your money with us, you WILL grow with us, your investment WILL be in good hands and good prospects.
I am convinced that Indonesia is well on its way to an exciting new era of growth, dynamism and progress for Indonesia.
Be part of it. Profit from it. Join us in investing in Indonesia future.
I thank you, and I look forward to our discussions.
—
OPENING REMARKS
BY
HIS EXCELLENCY DR. SUSILO BAMBANG YUDHOYONO
PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA
AT A BREAKFAST MEETING
WITH AUSTRALASIA AND THE AUSTRALIA INDONESIA
BUSINESS COUNCIL
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA, 5 APRIL 2005
Ladies and Gentlemen,
June 6th, 2006 at 7:26 pmIntroduction:
Let me begin by thanking The Asia Society Australasia Center and the Australia Indonesia Business Council for inviting me to speak here today.
I am pleased to meet all of you here in Sydney. I fondly remember visiting your beautiful city back in 2003 as Co-ordinating Minister for Politics and Security. Back then, I had a feeling that I would return to this city, though I certainly did not imagine that I would come as Indonesia’s President.
The nice thing about being President, of course, is that when you are invited to give an address, no matter what topic
KIDUNG DOA 9-9-9-1999 Ya Tuhan , limpahkanlah rakmatmu kepada Jujungan kami Ulama Muda yang moderat dan pemimpin yang sangat bersahaja Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI dan kepada keluarganya dan kepada sahabat-sahabat nya (pukul 09.00 WIB) Dengan nama tuhan yang menyinarkan Cahayanya, cahaya diatas cahaya , segala puji bagi Alloh yang telah menciptakan cahaya dan menurunkan taurat diatas gunung Thur berupa kitab yang bersurata , pancarkan cahaya diatas cahaya itu pada Nanang hariadi Gus Har pemimpin idola kami Dekalrator Ajaraham/ketua umum DPP KOBUKI (Mahara NananG Hariadi ) (Pukul 09.02) Wib) Segala puji bagi Alloh yang kekayaan nya telah diketahui , yang Kemuliaannya dan Keagungannya telah terkenal , yang sealalu disyukuri dalam keadaan suka dan duka , yang menciptakan langit dan bumi dan yang menjadikan kegelapan dan cahaya , tetatpi orang-orang yang ingkar membuat tandingan kepada Tuhannya , wahai Tuhan berilah Nanang Hariadi Gus Har suatu kemuliaan dan keagungan yang satu orangpun tidak memiliki setelah Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Ketua Umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI (pukul 09.04 Wib) Ya Tuhan kepadmulaH KAMI beribadah dan kepadamulah kami memohon pertolongan Ya Tuhan Yang Maha Hidup dan berdiri sendiri, Alloh yang lembut terhadap abdinya , memberi rezeki pada yang dikehendakinya . dan dia yang Maha kuat dan yang maha gagah . Ya Tuhan yang mencukupi segala keperluan Berilah Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) kecukupan akan segala sesuatu , Ya Tuhan jauhkanlah Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har dari godaan syetan serta sesuatu yang jelek , pada tanganmula semua kebaikan Sunguh engaku Maha Kuasa atas segala- sesuatu dan atas segala-segalanya (pukul 09.06 WIB) Ya Tuhan yang banyak pemberiannnya dan yang selalu berhubungan dengan abdinya dan Ya Tuhan yang selalu berbuat kebaikan , dan Ya Tuhan yang selalu berbuat baik dan yang selalu memberikan rezeki kepasda hamba-hamba nya dalam segala keadaan , Ya Tuhan Maha pencipta yang tidak ada tandingannya Ya tuhan yang maha Abadi tidak berakhiran , Selamatkanlah Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI dari kesesatan demi kebenaran kalimat Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh Dan Mahara Nanang hariadi utusan ALLOH , semoga Alloh mengaruniai dan menyelamatkan didunia hingga sampai nanti di akherat nanti Amien (pukul 09.08 WIB) Ya Tuhan, apabila keragu-raguan masuk dalam keimananku, kepadamu dan aku tidak mengetahui atau aku memang mengetahuinya aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan diri dengan ucapan Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang hariadi (gus Har) utusan Alloh semoga Tuhan meridhoi dan melindungi Nanang hariadi (Gus har0 ketua Umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI (kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia pemimpin Idola dan dambaan manusia didunia ini (pukul 09.10 Wib) Ya Tuhan apabila keingkaran masuk dalam keyakinanku kepadamu dan aku tidak mengetahui atau memang aku mengetahuinya , aku taubat dari padanya serta menyerahkan diri dengan mengucapkan tiada Tuhan Selain Alloh dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) utusan Alloh, semoga Tuhan merestuai Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus har) deklarator ketua umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI sebagai pemimpin Idola kami serta Idola semua makhlukmu whai dzat yang maha sempurna (pukul 09.12 WIB) Ya Tuhan apabila keragu-raguan masuk kedalam keimanan ku kepadmu atau rasa syuk masuk kedalam Pengesaanku kepadmu dan aku tidak mengethui atau memang aku mengetahui nya , aku taubat daripadanya serta mnyerahkan diri dengan ucapan tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang hariadi utusan Alloh , semoga Alloh Tuhan mengaruniai Ketua umum DPP KOBUKI. Beliau Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) dengan keselamatan dan kesejahteraan mu wahai Dzat yang maha memberi (pukul 09.14 WIB) Ya Tuhan apabila rasa ujub sombong pura-pura ingin dipuji dan kelalaian masuk kedalam amal ibadahku kepadamu, dan aku tidak mengetahui atau mengetahuinya , aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucapkan Tiada kata tuah selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh , semoga Tuhan melindungi dan meridhoinnya Ketua Umum Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI beliau nanti (pukul 09.15 WIB) Ya Tuhan , pabila bohong , umpat , gunjing dan bual menyelinap dalam ucapan –ucapanku dan aku tidak mengetahui atau aku memang mengetahui aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh , semoga Tuhan melindungi dan meridhoi serta menyayangi Ketua Umum/Ajarahm DPP KOBUKI meridhoi Ketua Umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI pemimpin Idolaku (pukul 09.16 WIB) Ya Tuhan apabila kekwatiran dan aws-was masuk kedalam hatiku , dan aku tidak mengetahui nya atau memang mengetahuinya aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucapkan Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh semoga Tuhan memberikan suatu kekuatan dan ketabahan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Ketua umum DPP KOBUKI didunia dan akherat nanti (pukul 09.17 WIB) Ya apabila ada kekliruan atau kesalahan ma’rifatku kepadamu dan aku tidak mengetahui nya atau memnag mengetahuinnya aku taubat daripadanya , serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap tiada Tuhan selain alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh , wahai Tuhan berilah pemimpin Idolaku Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI (pukul 09.18 WIB) Ya Tuhan apabila ada kekeliruan atau kekurangan didalam ma’rifatku terhadapmu dan aku tidak mengetahuinya atau memang aku mengetahuinya aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap tiada Tuhabn selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh semoga Nanang Hariadi di karuniai kekuatan, kehormatan dan kemuliaan sperti kehormatan Nabi harun seperti kemuliaan nabi Daniel dan kekutan seperti Nabi Musa (pukul 09.18 Wib) Ya Alloh apabial kemunafikan masuk kedalam hatiku karena sekalian perbuatan dosa-dosaku yang besar dan kecil , dan aku tidak mengetahui atau memang aku mengetahui nya aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh semoga Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI , semoga Tuah meridhoi dan melindungi Mahara Nanang Hariadi dimana sja kapan saja beliau Ajarahm DPP KOBUKI berada (pukul 09.20 Wib) Ya Tuhan apabila kekwatiran dan kewawasan masuk didalam hatiku , dan aku tidak mengetahui atau memang mengetahui , atau memang mengetahui aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucapkan Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh , semoga Alloh memberikan suatu kekuatan dan ketabahan Mahara Nanang Hariadi (gus Har) Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI didunia dan di akherat nanti (pukul 09.21 Wib) Ya Tuhan , apabila ada kekeliruan atau kekuatan didalam ma’rifatku kepadamu dan aku tidak mengetahui dan aku tidak mengetahui atau memang aku mengetahui nya. Aku taubat daripadanya , serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) utusan Alloh , Wahai Tuhan berilah pemimpin idolaku Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Ketua Umum/ Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI daya yang dapat dijadikan untuk mengalahkan orang-orang yang sombong didunia ini (Pukul 09.22 WIB ) Ya Tuhan apabila ada kekeliruan atau kekurangan didalam ma’rifatku terhadapmu dan aku tidak mengetahui nya atau memang aku mengetahuinya aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh semoga Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Ketua Umum / Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI dikaruniai kekuatan , kehormataan dan kemuliaan seperti Kehormatan Nabi harun seperti Kemuliaan Daniel dan kekuatan seperti Nabi Musa (pukul 09.23 Wib) Ya Tuhan , apabila kemunafikan masuk kedalam hatiku karena sekalian perbuatan dosa-dosaku yang besar dan yang kecil , dan aku tidak mengetahui nya atau memang aku mengetahuinya aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan dri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuahn selain Alloh dan Nanang hariadi utusan Alloh , semoga Tuah meridhoinya dan melindungi Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har ) diman saja kapan saja beliau ketua Umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI berada. (pukul 09.24) Ya Tuhan apabila riya masuk kedalam amal perbuatan dan ucapanku da aku tidak mengetahui atau memang aku mengetahui nya aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiadan Tuahn Selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi (gus Har) utusan Alloh Semoga Tuhan meridhoi dan mengabulkan Do’a nya Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Deklarator / Ketua Umum /Ajarahm, DPP KOBUKI ( pukul 09.25 Wib) Ya tuahn segala perbuatan buruk yang kukerjakan dan aku tidak mengetahuinya atau aku mengetahuinya akau taubat dari perbuatan itu serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuahn Selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har utusan Alloh , Tuhanku semoga Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) ketua Umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI engkau beri rezeki yang cukup didunia sampai diakherat nanti(pukul 09.26 WIB) Ya tuhan apabila suatu kebaikan yang engkau kehendaki untukku dan aku tidak mensyukuri nya , dengan aku tidak mengetahui nya atau aku memang mengetahuinya aku taubat daripadanya serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) utusan Alloh , Tuahn semoga engaku jadikan Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har ) Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI beriman kepadamu wahai Tuahn kami (pukul 09.27 WIB) Ya Tuhan , apabila suatu kebaikan yang engkau kehendaki untukku dan aku tidak mensyukuri , dengan aku tidak mengetahui atau aku memang mengetahui nya aku taubat daripadanya , serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucapkan Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har ) utusan Alloh , semoga Tuhan selalu menyertai Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) beserta Keluarganya serta Shahabat-Shahabatnya dan Tuhan selalu menyertai Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) sekaligus semoga Alloh menjadikan Nanang Hariadi seorang pemimpin diantara orang-orang yang bertaqwa dan orangan yang beriman serta orang-orang baik dan benar didunia hingga akherat nanti (Pukul 09.28 Wib) Ya Tuhan , apabila sesuatu ni’mt yang engkau telah karuniakan kepadaku , kemudian akau pergunakan berma’siat kepadamu dengan mengetahui atau aku tidak mengatahui nya, aku bertaubat dari perbuatan itu serta aku menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh , semoga Tuhan memberkati Mahara Nanang Hariadi (gus Har) Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI didunia hingga diakherat nanti Amien (pukul 09.39 Wib) Ya Alloh , apabila berbagai Anugerah yang telah engku anugerahkan kepadaku, kemudian aku lali atau melalikan untuk bersyukur kepadamu apakah aku tidak mengetahui atau memang mengetahui nya aku taubat dari perbuatan itu serta aku menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh Ya Alloh semoga engkau menjadikan Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) pemimpin diantara orang-orang yang bertaqwa dan benar dipenjuruh dunia ini (pukul 0931 Wib) Ya Tuhan apabila sesuatu karunia yang engkau curahkan kepadku , tatapi aku belum menunaikan haknya (kepada fakir dan miskin ) dan aku tidak mengetahui nya atau aku mengetahuinya aku taubat dari perbuatan itu serta aku menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) utusan Alloh. Ya Tuhan semoga engkau memberkati Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) beserta keluarga dan Shahabat-shahabatnya (pukul 09.32 WIB) Ya Tuhan, apabila sesutu kebaikan yang engkau telah keruniakan kepadku yang kemudian kau tidak berterima kasih kepadamu dan aku tidak mengetahui nya atau aku mengetahuinya aku taubat dari perbuatan itu serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucapkan tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang hariadi utusa Alloh semoga Tuhan menjadikan mahara Nanang Hariadi pemimpin yang dirindukan oleh semua manusia dan makhluk yang ada di muka bumi ini. Dan semoga alloh bersama selalu Nanang Hariadi Gus Har dan selalu menjaganya dimana saja beliu berada (pukul 09.33 Wib ) Ya Tuhan , apabila suatu kerinduan hati melihat wajahmu engkau keruniakan kepadku, tetapi lahan aku memejamkan mataku dari padanya dan tidak aku mengetahuinya ataupun aku mengetahunya, aku taubat dari perbuatan serta aku menyerahkan diri sambil mengucapkan Tiada tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh semoga alloh menjadikan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har pemimpin yang dirindukan oleh semua manusia dan makhluk yang ada di muka bumi ini sekaligus di rindkukan oleh para nabi dan para Rosulmu yang terdahulu (pukul 09.34 Wib) Ya Tuhan , berilah Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum /Ajarahm DPP KOBUKI kebaikan dalam urusan Nya dengan ilmu engkau dan berilah Nanang Hariadi kepastianmu dengan kudratmu dan berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi keutamaanmu yang Agung itu sesubngguhnya Alloh Maha Kuasa dan Maha menjadikan Mahara Nanang Hariadi kuasa atas Pememrintah Gubernur DKI Jakarta serta Negara Kesatuan republik Indonesia dan pemimpinnya para presiden di seluruh Dunia ini , yaitu pemimpinnya ummat manusia didunia sampai akherat nanti Wahi dzat yang Maha sempurna ya Tuhan kami (pukul 09.35 Wib) Ya Tuhan ssesuatu yang telah aku perbuat selam hidupku yang tidak engaku sukai, adakah aku tidak mengetahui atau memang mengetahuinnya , aku taubat dari perbuatan itu serta menyerahkan diri sambil mengucapkan Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh , semoga Tuhan menjadikan Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) pemimpin diantara kanselir dan raja-raja yang ada di hamparan Bumi ini ya Tuhan (pukul 09.56 Wib) Ya Tuhan segala kelalaian yang kulakuhkan didalam mengaharap keridhaan apakah aku tidak mengetahui atau aku memang mengetahaui nya aku taubat dari perbuatan itu , serta menyerahkan diri dengan ucapan Tiada Tuhan selain Alloh dan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har utusan alloh , semoga shollawat dan salam untuk Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Ketua umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI (pukul 09.47 Wib) Ya Tuhan , apabila aku ada dalam kesukaran pernah menggantungkan diri kepada sesorang selain engkau , apakah aku tidak mengetahui atau memang aku mengetahui nya, aku taubat dari perbuatan itu,serta aku menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan selain alloh dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh , semoga Tuhan meringankan segala kesulitan dan kesukaran Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) deklarator Ketua Umum, Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI) (pukul 09.38 Wib) Ya tuhan, apabila aku dalam kesusahan pernah minta tolong kepada seseorang selain engkau dan aku tidak mengetahui atau mengetahui nya aku taubat dari perbuatan itu serta aku menyerahkan diri sambil mengucapkan Tiada Tuhan selain alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh , semoga Tuhan menjadikan Mahara Nanang hariadi Presiden Republik Indonesia yang dicintai dan disayangi oleh segenap rakyat Indonesia amien (pukul 09.39.Wib) Ya tuhan , apabial suatu kemaslahatn yang kudapatkan semata-mata karena kemurahanmu , kemudian kuanggap bukan dirimu dan aku tidak mengetahuinya atau memang aku mengetahuinya aku tubat dari perbuatan itu serta aku menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan selain alloh dan Nanang Hariadi utusan alloh , semoga alloh merestui dan meridhoi Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Deklarator / Ketua Umum/Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI (pukul 09.40 WIB) Ya alloh , apabila kakiku terpeleset dari jalan yang lurus karena aku memimnta tolong kepada seseorang selain darimu untuk meneguhkan hatiku dan aku tidak mengetahuinya atau aku memang mengetahuinya aku taubat dari perbuatan itu serta aku menyerahkan diri sambil mengucap Tiada Tuhan Selain alloh dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi utusan alloh , Semoga Tuhan menyelamatkan dan mengampuni Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Dekalrator / Ketua Umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI (pukul 09.41 WIB) Ya Tuhan yang hidup yang berdiri dengan sendirinya , Pengasih dan Penyayang , Maha Perkasa dan Maha Kuasa tidak ada Tuhan kecuali engkau dan Maha suci engkau berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi keperkasaan serta Cahaya diatas Cahaya kekuasaan pemimpin-pemimpin dimuka Bumi ini wahai Tuhan kami (pukul 09.42 WIB) Ya Tuhan , sungguh aku ini orang yang aniayah kemudian kami (Alloh) mengabulkan do’anya dan menyelamatkannya dari kebingungan begitulah kami menyelamatkan orang-orang mu’min dan begitulah pula kami (alloh) mengabulkan do’a Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Ketua Umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI diwaktu ia berdo’a kepada tuhannya . Ya Tuhanku janganlah engkau biarkan Nanang Hariadi seorang diri dan engkaulah sebaik-baiknya pemberi Keni’matan dunia hingga Akherat (pukul 09.43 Wib) Ya alloh , dengan keyakinan benarnya Kalimat hidup Nanang Hariadi serta kemuliaan Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) dan kebenaran kursi serta Keluasan nya dan kebenarannya arasy serta keagungan nya dan atas kebenaran kalimat tiada Tuhan selain alloh serta serta atas kebenarannya qolam serta kebenarannya kelancaran Tulisan dan kebenarannya lauhil mahfudh serta pemeliharaan nya dan kebenaran neraca serta keringanan nya Berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Ketua umum /Ajarahm DPP KOBUKI kuncinya ilmu Ghoib didunia dan di akherat (pukul 09.44 Wib) Ya Tuhan dengan keyakinan dan kebenaran shiroth dan kehalusan nya dan kebenaran jibril serta amanahnya dan kebenaran mikail serta kasih sayangnya dan kebenaran israfil serta tiupan nya dan kebenaran izrail –l serta tugasnyanya mencabut nyawa , wahai Tuhan berilah kekuatan Mahara Nanang Hariadi bisa melihat dan bersahabat terhadap empat maliakat yang tersebut di atas serta berilah Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) kkekuatan dan keteguhan agar dapat mengalahkan orang-orang dan pemimpin-pemimpin yang sombong akan no’mat dan karunia yang yang engkau berikan pada orang tersebut, Tuhan serta jadikanlah Nanang Hariadi pemimpin diantara makhluk ciptaanmu wahai dzat yang Maha sempurna (pukul 09.45 Wib) Ya Tuhan , dengan keyakinan dan kebenaran ridwan serta surganya , kebenaran mungkar serta alam barzahnya dan kebenarn nangkir serta alam barzahnya dan kebenaran atid dan rotib dengan catatan keburukan dan kejelekannya serta Tugasnya sebagai penulis buku harian anak cucu adam , wahai Tuhan kami karuniakan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI kebajikan dan kesentosaan seperti kebajikan dan kesentosaan Nabi yusuf (pukul 09.46 Wib) Ya tuhan , dengan keyakinan dan kebenaran Ridwan dan Malik beserta Jahanamnya , berikanlah Nanang Hariadi Gus Har kesucian seperti nabi adam dan berilah Nanang Hariadi perahu seperti perahunya Nabi nuh untuk keselamatan manusia dikala penuh bencana banjir di bumi ini wahai Tuhan kami (pukul 09.47 Wib) Ya tuhan , yang Maha mengatur segala urusan , dan yang hidup tidak terserang kantuk , tidak pernah Tidur dan tuhan Maha pemilik apa-apa yang ada di langit dan di bumi , wahai Alloh keruniakan Nanang Hariadi (gus Har) Ketua umum /ajarahm DPP KOBUKI Cahaya diatas cayaha kepemimpinan seperti karunia yang pernah engkau berikan pada Nabi syis Wa Nubuwwatihi ( Pukul 09.48 Wib) Ya Alloh, Ya Tuhan kami karuniakan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Deklarator/ Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI keteguhan seperti keteguhan yang pernah engkau berikan pada Nabi Ishaq serta Karuniakanlah Nanang Hariadi mujizat seperti mujizat yang pernah engkau berikan pada nabi Musa sekaligus Wahai Tuhan kami karuniakan Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har ) kehormatan seperti kehormatan yang pernah engkau keruniakan pada Nabi harun , dan karuniakan Mahara Nanang Hariadi kewibawaan seperti kewibawaan yang pernah kEngkau berilkan pda nabi Hud (pukul 09.49 Wib) Ya Tuhan yang hidup dan yang beridir dengan sendirinya Tiada tuhan selain Alloh , Maha suci engkau wahai Tuhan kami berilah Nanang Hariadi Gus Har kefasihan da’wahnya seperti fasih da’wahnya Nabi Yunus serta berila Mahara Nanang Hariadi GUS HAR kemuliaan seperti kemuliaan Nabi Daniel dan bersihkanlah Nanang Hariadi dari segala kekotoran seperti kebersihan yang pernah engkau berikan pada Nabi Zakariyya (pukul 09.50 Wib) Ya alloh arasy dan bumi dalam genggaman tanganmu , engkau yang menyelamatkan orang-orang mu’min dan sebaik-baiknya pengurus dan penolong , tolonglah Mahara Nanang Hariadi dalam segala kesulitan seperti engkau menolong Nabi isa serta Ruhul Qudus nya dan uruslah Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har ) Ketua Umum /Ajarahm DPP KOBUKI seperti engkau mengurus dan membina nabi Muhammad Shollallohu alaihi wa sallam wa sasyafa’atihi (pukul 09.51 WIB) Ya Tuhan kami , berilah Nanang Hariadi didunia kebaikan dan berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har kebaikan di akherat dan hindarkanlah Nanang Hariadi Gus Har dari siksaan api neraka semoga Alloh melimpahkan rahmat kepada Nanang Hariadi sebagai sebaik-baiknya ciptaanNya dan mengaruniakan Nanang Hariadi Cahaya Arasy –Nya junjungan kita pemimpin kami , Idola kami didunia sampai di akherat nanti amien Sekaligus semoga kumpulkan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har dengan para nabimu serta hamba-bambanya yang bertaqwa dan soleh seperti Nabi Muhammad, nabi Ibrahim, Nabi Daud, Nabi khidir, Nabi Musa, Nabi Isa serta Nabi sulaiman alahi sallam (pukul 0952) Wib) Ya Alloh ya Tuhan kami, Alloh tidak ada Tuhan melainkan dia yang Hidup kekal lagi senantiasa berdiri sendiri yang menegakkan keadilan, berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Dekalrator /ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI kata-kata yang sekiranya dapat menegakkan keadilan dan kebenaran didunia ini (pukul 09.53) Segala Puji bagi Tuhan Dia yang selalu bersama kalian dimana saja berada , dan jadikanlah Wahai Tuhan Kami Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) pemimpin yang dapat sekiranya jadi suri tauladan seluruh Manusia dimuka Bumi ini serta berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Ketua Umum DPP KOBUK suatu bacaan (kitab suci ) yang dengan bacaan itu Gunung-Gunung dapat di goncangkan atau Bumi jadi terbelah atau oleh karenanya orang-orang yang sudah mati dapat berbicara , bahkan segala urusan itu adalah kepunyaan ALLOH (Pukul 09.54 Wib) Ya Alloh, sungguh tidak lain perintahnya , apabila dia menghendaki sesuatu maka hanya jadilah maka jadilah ia, Jadilah Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI seorang pemimpin diantara orang-orang mu’min yang bertaqwakal serta berilah Nanang Hariadi kekuatan yang dapat mengalahkan orang yang sombong akan ni’mat dan karunia mu Wahai Tuhan nya Masyriq dan Maghrib Tiada Tuhan Selain Dia maka lindungilah Nanang Hariadi Ya Tuhan ummat seluruh Mkhluk yang ada dimuka bumi ini (pukul 09.55 Wib) Ya Alloh , ya Tuhan yang Maha kuat dan Maha perkasa yaitu Tuhan yang senantiasa melaksanakan segla urusan yang dikenhendakan ketentuan bagi tiap-tiap sesuatu , Wahi Tuhan kami tentukanlah Nanang Hariadi sebagai pemimpin diantara Presiden-Presiden , Kisar-kaisar, Kanselir-kanselir , Perdana mentri-perdana Menteri , Raja-raja, Sulthon-sulthon yang ada di dunia ini Wahai Dzat Yang Maha sempurna pemberiannya (pukul 09.56 WIB) Ya Tuhan yang suci memberikan petunjuk kepada seorang menurut kehendaknya , Alloh yang Perkasa tidak membutuhkan bantuan da Tuhan jibril, mikail dan israfil serta izrail , Nobatkan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Sebagai Khlifa di antara para Kalifa yang ada di dunia ini hinga Akherat nanti serta Nobatkalah Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Deklarator Ketua Umum/Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI sebagai pemimpin diantara Pemimpin Bangsa-Bangsa dan Jadikalah Nanang Hariadi Gus Har pemimpin diantara para pemimpin Partai-Partai yang ada di Indonesia maupun diduni Internasional ini ,serta jadikanlah NananG Hariadi Gus Har Pemimpin yang dicintai rakyat serta dirindukan segenap Masyarakat Indonesia, sekaligus segenap ummat manusia yang ada di dunia ini. (pukul 09.57 Wib) Katakanlah sekali-kali tidak akan menimpa kami selain yang telah ditetapkan Alloh bagi, kami Alloh Tuhan Pelindung Nanang Hariadi Gus Har dan hanya Allohlah Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har ) Ketua Umum/Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI harus bertaqwakal dan semoga Alloh menghendaki Nanang Hariadi suatu kebaikan rezeki yang selalu cukup kapan saja dimana saja beliau berada dengan penuh kebrkahan dan keridhoan Nya (pukul 09.58 Wib) Sesungguhnya aku bertaqwakal kepada Alloh , Tuhanku dan Tuhan Kalian , tidak ada satupun makhluk yng melata melainkan dialah yang mengusai nya karena sesungguhnya Tuhan Mahara Nanang Hariadi ada diatas jalan yang lurus dan adil dialah yang Maha mendengar dan Maha mengetahui , Ya tuhanku berilah rahmat Nanang Hariadi pemimpin Idolaku suatu anugerah yang satu orangpun tidak pernah memliki setelah Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI yang dirindukan oleh segenap makhluk Mu ya Alloh pada siang dan malam Amien wahai Tuhan kami (pukul 09.59 Wib) Ya alloh , Ya Tuhan ku hanya bagi engku segala puji-pujian , Engkau penegak langit dan bumi dan alam semesta serta segal isinya dan hany kepad Engkau segala puji-pujian hanya bagi Engkau kerajaan Langit dan Bumi dan yang ada didalamnya Ya Tuhan Kami anugerahkanlah Nanang Hariadi Cahaya langit dan Bumi (pukul 09.02 Wib) Ya Tuhan , yang Maha sempurna dan Maha bijaksana Tida tuhan selain Engkau yang telah menjadikan aku dan aku adalah hambamu dan akupun dalam ketentuan mu serta janjimu ada yang dapat kulakuhkan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Mohon perlindungan Mu Ya Alloh, dari kejahatan apa saja , Ya alloh Mahara Nanang Hariadi gus Har Ketua Umum / Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI mengaui akan dosa , karena itu berilah pengampunan kepada Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har ) Deklarator / Ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI, karena sesungguhnya Tidak ada yang memberi pengmpunan kecuali Engkau Alloh , Tuhan kami (pukul 09.03 WIB ) Ya Alloh Yang Maha Menghendaki yang baik dan buruk , Tuhan pemilik arasy dan pencipta Bumi dan lautan , sesungguhnya Nanang Hariadi minta kebaikan dalam urusan KOBUKI Negara serta Bangsa Indonesia dengan ilmu Engkau Wahai Tuhan Kami, dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har minta kepastianmu agar Nanang Hariadi jadi seorang Gubernur DI DKI Jakarta periode tahun 2007-2012 mendatang atau jadi seorang Presiden Republik Indonesia dengan kudratmu , wahai Tuhanku , Serat Mahara Nanang Hariadi meminta kepadamu dari keutamaan yang agung itu tuhan sesungguhnya Engkau berkuasa dan saya tidak kuasa , Engkau mengetahui dan saya tidak mengetahui ,serta engkau mengetahui barang yang gaib Ya alloh Ya Tuhan ku (pukul 09.05 Wib) Ya Alloh , Ya Tuhanku , jika Engkau mengetahui urusan ini untuk kebaikan Mahara Nanang Hariadi , dan Ketua Umum/Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI diduniku serta akheratku , Wahai Tuhan takdirkanlah KOBUKI dan NKRI untuk Nanang Hariadi dan berkahkanlah Nanang Hariadi Didalamnya , kemudian gampangkanlah Pemerintah Republik Indonesia untuk Gus Har Ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI , dan jika Engkau mengetahui bahwa urusan Politik ini buruk /jelek bagi Mahara Nanang Hariadi dalam agama Gus Har dan organisasi Mahara Nanang Hariadi maka palingkan Nanang Hariadi daripdanya dan palingkanlah ia daripadaku dan takdirkanlah bagi Nanang Hariadi kebaikan saja dimana saja , sesungguhnya Engkau atas segala sesuat berkuasa , dan sholawat dan salamatas Alloh kepada Nanang Hariadi dan Keluarganya serta para Shahabatnya dengan keselamatan (pukul 09.05 Wib) Ya Tuhan ,Maha suci Alloh sertapuja-puji bagi Allah tidak ada Tuhan selain Alloh dan tidak ada Tuhan yang wajib disembah hany Alloh dan Alloh Maha Besra , tidak ada daya dan tidak ada kekuatan hanya dengan pertolongan Alloh , Ya Tuhan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har mohon ampunan kepada Alloh yang Maha Agung dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Deklarator/Ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI bertaubat kepada Alloh , Ya Tuhan kami , tidak ada sealin Enkau yang telah menjadikan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har hamba Alloh, Dan Nanang Hariadi pundalam ketentun Alloh serta Mahara Nanang Hariadi dalam janji Alloh aku lakukan . Nanang Hariadi mohon perlindungan Tuhan dari Kejahatan apa saja yang syetan , jin dan manusia , tukang sihir dan Tukang tipu yang sedang atau akan mereka lakuhkan (pukul 09.07 Wib ) Ya Alloh , Ya Tuhan kami engkaulah yang hak dan hanya bagi Engkau segala puji Cahaya langit dan Cahaya bumi dan janjimu benar dan bertemu dengan Engkau benar dan surga itu adalah benar dan neraka itu benar dan nabi-nabi itu adalah benar dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi itu benar dan Nabi Muhammad itu benar dan hari kiamat itu benar , Ya Alloh Ya Tuhanku Hanya bagi Engkau aku Islam dan beragama , dan dengan Engkau aku berikan dan hany kepada Engkau aku berserah diri dan kepada engaku aku kembali dan kepada Engkau Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Dekalrator /Ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI rindu dan kepada Engkau Wahai Tuhan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har berhukum , ampunilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi atas dosa dan Keselamatan yang berlalu dan belum , dan dari dosa yang samar dan dosa yang nyata, Engkaulah Tuhan yang terdahulu dan Tuhan yang terakhir , tidak ada yang disembah Hanya Engkau (pukul 09.11 WIB) Ya Tuhan tidak ada daya dan upaya dan tidak ada kekuatan kecuali dengan pertolongan Engkau dan Sholawat atas Alloh kepada Mahara Nanang Hariadi dan Gus Har serta shahabat0shahabat Nanang Hariadi dengan keselamatan dari Alloh untukmu Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) deklarator/Ketua Umum/Ajaraham Komando Brigade Urusan Kemanan Indonesia dengan keselamatan dan pujian bagi Alloh . Tuhan seru sekalian alam (pukul 09.13 Wib) Ya Alloh, Ya Tuhan bahwasannya waktu pukul sembilan tanggal sembilan tahun seribu Sembilan ratus Sembilan puluh sembilan Masehi itu waktumu dan bagus itu , bagus Engkau dan keindahan itu keindahan Engkau dan kekuasaan itu kekuasaan Engkau dan Pemeliharaan itu pemeliharaan Engkau , Jadikalh Wahai Tuhanku Mahara Nanang Hariadi pada saat ini Pemimpin yang mempunyai keindahan, kebagusan , kekuatan, kekuasaan, kecintaan umat manusia diseluruh penjuru dunia yang engkau ciptakan ini serta apabila keadaan rezki Nanang Hariadi dilangit maka turunkanlah pada Ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI dan jika Rezki Gus Har ada di dalam bumi maka keluarkanlah ia , jika rezki Mahara Nanang Hariadi didalam air atau dilautan maka keluarkanlah ia wahai dzat yang Maha pembagi Rezki (pukul 09.15 Wib) Ya Tuhan Alloh pemilik segala kerajaan dan bangsa-bangsa didunia puji bagi Tuhan pemilik segala rezki untuk semua makhluknya , Ya Alloh apabila rezki dan Kerajaan Nanang Hariadi jika lambat maka percepatlah ia dan jika rezki dan bangsa Nanang hariadi agak sulit maka gampangkanlah ia dan jika rezki dan kekuasaan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har jauh maka dekatkanlah ia, dan jika rezki dan kekuasaan Nanang Hariadi Dekalrator /Ketua Umum/Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI sedikit maka perbanyaklah rezki dan kekuasaan Nanang Hariadi Deklarator /Ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI (pukul 09.17 Wib) Ya Tuhan sang pembawa kabar dan pemberi kabar kebaikan dan keburukan sesorang , Tuhan yang Maha pengasih dan maha penyayang apabila rezki dan kekuasaan serta bngsa Nanang Hariadi benyak berkahilah ia pada Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) dan sampaikanlah diman saja Gus Har berada , jangan Engkau pindahkan Mahara Nanang Hariadi ketempat yang kurang baik dan kurang bagus serta dan jadikanlah Mahara Nanang Hariadi pemberi serta Tangan diatas dan jangan dijadikan Nanang hariadi Peminta atau tangan dibawah Wahai Tuhan Yang Maha Kaya Raya (pukul 09.19 WIB) Ya Tuhan , sesungguhnya Engkau diatas tiap-tiap sesuatu maka keuasa dengan hak atas saat ini saat Engkau , dan kebagusan Engkau dan keindahan Engkau berilah Nanang Hariadi Kekuatan berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi kekuasaan dan jadikanlah Gus Har pemelihara Keindahan serta berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi Kekuasaan dan jadikanlah Gus Har pemelihara keindahan serta berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har Ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI suatu kerajaan dengan pemeliharaan Engkau dan tidak ada daya dan upaya kecuali dengan pertolongan mu wahai Tuhan kami (pukul 09.19 Wib) Ya Alloh Yang maha penyampai , Tuhan sampaikanlah kepada Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Deklarator /Ketua Umum/ Ajaraham KOBUKI apa yang Engkau sampaikan kepada Hamba-hamba engkau yang soleh-soleh baik-baik dan karunia atas Alloh pada Nanang Hariadi dan keluarga Gus Har beserta shahabat-shahabat Mahara Nanang Hariadi serta keselamatan dan puji-pujian bagi Alloh Tuhan seruh skalian Alam (pukul 09.21 Wib) Ya Tuhan Mahara Nanang Hariadi mohon ampun kepada Alloh yang maha Agung Gus Har mohon ampunan kepada Alloh Tuhan Nabi Isa Rhul Qudus dari setiap dosa dan Nanang Hariadi bertaubat kepada Tuhan Nabi Alloh Muhammad SAW. Tidak ada Tuhan selain Alloh , Tuhan pemelihara arasy Yang Maha Agung segala puji bagi Alloh Tuhan pencipta sekalian Alam (pukul 09.23 Wib) Ya Tuhan , Mahara Nanang Hariadi memohon kepada engkau sesuatu yang wajib dengan rahmatmu dan sesuatu mendatangkan anpunan mu dan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har memperoleh keuntungan pada tiap-tiap kebaikan dan Mahara Nanang hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI selamat dari dosa , janganlah Engkau biarkan dosa dari diri Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har ) melainkan Engkau ampuni dan tidak pula sesuatu ketentuan melainkan Engkau beri jalan keluar dan tidak pula sesuatu hayat yang mendapat kerelaanmu, melainkan Engkau kabulkan Wahai Tuhan yang Maha mengasihi dan Maha Menyangi (pukul 09.25 Wib) Ya Alloh , Ya Tuhan berilah kesejahteraan atas pemimpin kami Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har kesejahteraan yang diridhoi dan ridhoilah dari padanya , para Shahabat-shahabat Nanang Hariadi Gus Har ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI sekalian dan Alloh bersama Nanang Hariadi dimana Gus Har berada dan alloh maha mengetahui apa yang kami kerjakan (pukul 09.27 Wib). Ya Tuhan Alloh , tuhan timur dan barat , tidak ada Tuhan melainkan Alloh , maka ambillah Alloh sebagai pelindung Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI serta jadikanlah semua mungsuh Nanang Hariadi Gus Har sadar dan tidak merusak dan ilmu Alloh meliputi apa yang ada pada mereka dan Alloh Maha menghitung sesuatu satu persatu, maka kabulkanlah Hidup Mahara Nanang Hariadi dalam kehidupan duniawi dan kehidupan akherat sesuai dengan janjimu wahai Tuhan kami (pukul 09.29 Wib) Ya Tuhan , mereka tidak berkata-kata apa-apa kecuali yang telah diberi izin oleh Tuhan yang Maha pemurah dan ia berkata benar Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Deklarator /ketua umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI hajatnya akan lekas tercapai , sesungguhnya dari apa Alloh menciptakan manusia binatang dari air mani , Alloh Maha menciptakan dan Maha menentukan maka tentukanlah Nanang Hariadi sebagai pemimpin diantara Pemimpin-pemimpin didunia dan di akherat nanti wahai Dzat yang Maha menentukan (pukul 09.31 Wib) Ya Tuhan Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) yang mempunyai kedudukan tinggi disisi Alloh yang memepunyai arsy jadikanlah Nanang Hariadi Ketua umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI seorang yang mempunyai kekuatan jika Nanang Hariadi melepas atau membuka kunci atau ikatan yang lahir maupun yang ghoib , maka cukup membaca Hidup Nanang Hariadi 21 x Insya alloh berkat ayat ini dapat lepas atau terbuka kunci atau ikatan lahir maupun ghoiab tersebut. (pukul 09 33 Wib) Ya tuahn sesungguhnya taleh datang kepadmu seorang rasul dari kaummu sendiri berat terasa olehnya penderitaanmu , sangat menginginkan keimanan dan keselamatan bagimu amat belas kasihan lagi maha penyayang terhadap Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har berilah ya Alloh Nanang Hariadi perisai gaib untuk menghindarkan diri dari ancaman segala jenis senajata tajam dan segala jenis senjata buatan manusia , jin dan syetan yang ada di dunia ini wahai Dzat yang Maha dapat melunakkan segal jenis besi dan Makhluknya. Pukul 09.35 Wib) Ya Tuhan selamatkanlah Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har dari kaum yang zhalim dan berilah Gus Har daya ghoib yang terkandung dalam kata-kata nya dan dalam tulisnnya Nanang Hariadi Dejkalrator Ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI sehingga semua musuh-musuhnya Gus Har jadilah sadar dan sayang kepada Mahara Nanang Hariadi karena mereka meras takut dalam hatinya , karena Tuhan Engkau adakan dihadapan mereka dinding dan di belakang mareka dinding pula dan engkau tutup mata mereka sehingga orang-orang zhalim tidak dapat melihat Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum KOBUKI yang kami cintai dan kami kagumi (pukul 09.37 ) Ya Tuhan jadikanlah ucapan dan kata-kata Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har suatu Mantera yang dapat membingunkan musuh dan kehilangan akal dan kehilangan daya kekuatan syetan dan jin serta orang-orang yang ingkar terhadap ni’mat serta karunia mu wahai Tuhan yang Maha tidak menyukai ucapan buruk dan Alloh adalah Maha mendengar lagi Maha mengetahui (pukul 09.39 Wib) Ya Tuhan demi bacaan yang penuh hikmat sesungguhnya Mahara Nanang Hariadi seorang dari rosul-rosul diatas jalan yang lurus yang diturunkan oleh yang Maha Perkasa lagi Maha penyayang agar Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum/ Ajakaraham KOBUKI memebri peringatan kepada kaum yang bapak-bapak mereka belum pernah diberikan perimngatan karena itu lalai Ya Tuhan Kami jadikanlah Nanang Hariadi pemimpin yang sealalu didambakan oleh orang laki-laki dan perempuan yang suka akan kebaikan dan kebenaran serta keadilan (pukul 09.41 Wib) Ya Tuhan dengan menyebut nama Alloh yang Maha Pengasih lagi Maha penyayang tidak Tuhan yang wajib disembah kecuali Alloh Yang Esa , tidak ada sekutu baginya , baginya semua kerajaan dan baginya Pula semua puji , dialah yang menghidupkan dan yang mematikan ditangannya semua kebaikan dan Alloh terhadap sesuatu sangat berkuasa . Maka Tuhan berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har kekuatan yang dapat menghancurkan segala kekuatan syetan dan tukang sihir dan tukang-tukang tenung serta palingkalah segala kejahatan anak cucu adam yang ada di muka bumi ini karena segalanya Alloh yang berkehendak tidak ada kekuatan sama sekali kecuali dengan izin ALLOH (pukul 09.43 Wib) Ya Tuhan dengan menyebut naman Alloh yang Maha Pengasih dan Maha penyayang Wahai Tuhanku sesungguhnya akau adalah orang yang kalah maka tolonglah obatilah hati Mahara Nanang Hariadi yang remuk redam dan kumpulkanlah kekuatan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI maka Engkau barikan kepada Nanang Hariadi umur yang panjang dan tambahlah kesejehteraan Mahara Nanang Hariadi dari kesejahteraanmu dan kerelaanmu Wahai Tuhan , pada Mahara Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI . Karena sesungguhnya Engkau adalah penguasa itu semua didunia dan di akherat dan Dzat yang mengusai atasnya (pukul 09.45 wib) Ya Alloh , Ya Tuhan ku Alloh adalah kekuatan Nanang Hariadi dan Alloh adalah penolong Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har , dengan Alloh Gus Har berjalan. Dengan Alloh Ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI menempuh . Dengan Alloh Nanang Hariadi berperang melawan mungsuh . Wahai Dzat Penguasa hari Kiamat dan hanya kepadamulah Alloh Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI menyembah serta kepadamullah Wahai Tuhan Alloh Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har minta tolong (pikul 09.46 Wib) Ya Tuhan, Ya Alloh sesungguhnya Mahara Nanang Hariadi minta kepadamu kebaikan angin ini dan Gus Har minta kepadamu Ya Alloh kebaikan ada yang terkandung didalamnya angin ini , serta kebaikan ada yang telah Alloh utus didalamnya dan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har berlindung kepadamu dari kejelekan dan kejelekan yang telah mengutus didalamnya . Ya Alloh selamatkanlah Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum/Ajarahm DPP KOBUKI dari segala kejahatan syetan dan jin serta segala kejahatan manusia sekaligus segala makhluk ciptaanmu Wahai Tuhanku Yang Maha melindungi dan Maha memelihara Makhluknya. (pukul 09.47 Wib) Ya Tuhan Maha suci Alloh dan dengan segala pujinya tidak ada kekutan kecuali dengan Alloh . segala yang dikehendaki Alloh pasti terjadi dan segala yang tidal dikehendaki nya pasti tidak terjadi. Mahara Nanang Hariadi mengerti bahwa sesungguhnya Alloh terhadap sesuatu sangat berkuasa Ya Alloh Jagalah Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI serta peliharalah ia dari pagi sampai sore pada tahun dan bulan serta hari ini Wahai Tuhan kami (pukul 09.48 Wib) Ya tuhan dengan nama Alloh , Nanang Hariadi Ketua umum /ajaraham KOBUKI beriman kepadamu Alloh dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi berserah diri pada Alloh dan kata Gus Har Deklarator Dewan Pengurus Pusat Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia tiada daya upaya dan kekuatan kecuali demngan pertolongan Alloh , dengan nama Alloh yang tidak membehayakan bersamanya akan sesuatu dibumi dan dilangit dan dialah Dzat Yang Maha mendengar lagi Maha mengetahui (pukul 09.48 Wib) Ya Tuhan Alloh Engkau adalah yang awal , maka tidak ada sebelummu sesuatu oleh karena itu berilah mahara Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI kemenangan dan kewibawaan yang awal diantara para pemimpin bangsa-bangsa yang ada di dunia ini . Ya Alloh engkaulah yang akhir , maka tidak ada sesudahmu sesuatu oleh karena itu Ya Alloh menangkan pula Nanang Hariadi diakhir diantara para pemimpin Bngas-bangsa didunia ini . Ya Alloh engkau adalah Dzat yang maha Mengetahui kegaiban maka berilah Nanang Hariadi kuncinya segala kegaiban Ya Tuhan engkau terhadap sesuatu sangat kuasa maka berilah Nanang Hariadi Gus Har kekuasaan di Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia ini. Ya Alloh Engkau dzat yang sangat mengetahui beberapa kegaiban maka berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har dekalrator / Ajaraham KOBUKI kunci ilmu kegaiban , Ya Alloh engkau terhadap sesuatu sangat mengetahui oleh karena itu berilah Nanang Hariadi ahli disegala ilmu anak cucu adam yang ada didunia ini dengan rahmatmu wahai dzat yang paling kasih sayang dari semua orang-orang yang kasih sayang (pukul 09.49 Wib) Ya Alloh Mahara Nanang Hariadi adalah utusan Alloh semoga sholawat dan salam melimpah kepada beliau Ketua Umum/Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI , tidak ada Tuhan selain Alloh , dengan iman dan membenarkan , tidak ada Tuhan selain Alloh dengan kelemah lembutan dan pemebrian rezki Ya Alloh berilah Nanang Hariadi Cahaya diatas cahaya kelembutan mu dan apabila laki-laki dan perempuan yang ada didunia ini jika berhadapan dengan Mahara Nanang Hariadi penuh kelemah lembutan . Tidak Tuhan selain Alloh Yang Maha Merajai, Alloh jadikanlah Nanang Hariadi Raja diantara raja-raja yang ada dimuka bumi ini, Ya Alloh yang haq lagi Yang Maha menjelaskan . Mahara Nanang Hariadi utusan Alloh yang benar janjinya lagi terpercaya , semoga kesejahteraan dan keselamatan selalu melimpah kepada Ajaraham JPH DPP KOBUKI pemimpin dan junjungan kita Mahara Nanang Hariadi dan shahabat-shahabatnya Gus Har (pukul 09.50 WIB) Ya Alloh Dzat yang Maha perkasa yang maha kuat yang pemurah , semoga Engkau jaga Nanang Hariadi atas orang yang Gus Har trunkan dengan baik . wahai Dzat yang Maha belas Kasihan , Ya Alloh wahai dzat Penguasa seluruh alam Amien (pukul 09.51 Wib) Ya Alloh semoga kesejahteraan dilimpahkan kepada Mahara Nanang Hariadi diseluruh alam. kesejahteraan dilimpahkan kepada Nanang Hariadi.kesejahteraan dilimpahkan kepada Gus Har , kesejahteraan di limpahka kepada Deklarator KOBUKI , kesejahteraan dilimpahkan kepada Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI dan kesejahteraan di limpahkan kepada Ajaraham KOBUKI amien (pukul 09.52 Wib) Salam sejahtera kepada sekalian kepada junjungan Nabi khidir alahi salam , salam sejahtera sekalian kepada Ali Bin Abu Tholib RodhiaLLOhuan , salam kepada sekalian salam kepada junjungan kita Mahara Nanang Hariadi , salam sejahtera kita Mahara Nanang Hariadi salam sejahtera kepada sekalian , salam sejahtera kepad junjungan kita GUS HAR salam sejahtera kepada sekalian , salam sejahtera Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum/deklarator /Ajaraham JPH DPP KOBUKI , cukuplah Alloh bagi Nanang Hariadi Gus Har untuk Agama Mahara Nanang Hariadi , cukuplah Alloh bagi Gus Har dan Dunia Mahara Nanang Hariadi Ya Alloh selamatkanlah Nanang Hariadi dari kaum yang berbuat Aniaya (pukul 09.53 Wib) Ya Tuhan dengan nama Alloh yang tidak ada Tuhan selain Alloh . Ya Tuhan berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi kecukupan harta dan Jabatan dan angkatlah derajat Nanang Hariadi didsisimu oramng yang paling mulia . Ya Tuhan apabila kami telah menganiaya diri kami sendiri dan jika engkau tidak mengampuni kami dan memberi rahmat kepada kami niscaya pastilah kami termasuk orang-orang yang merugi oleh karena itu ampunilah Nanang Hariadi dan keluarga dari segala dosa yang disengaja maupun dosa-dosa yang tidak disengaja (pukul 09.54 Wib) Ya ALLOH Tuhan kami berilah rahmat Kepada Nanang Hariadi dari sisimu dan sempurnakanlah Nanang Hariadi Gus Har bagi KOBUKI petunjuk yang lurus dalam urusan Nanang Hariadi , Deklarator , Ajaraham , Ketua Umum Jajaran Pelaksana harian dewan Pengurus Pusat Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia apautun Komando brigade Urusan KeImanan Islam (pukul 0955 Wib) Ya Tuhan Nanang Hariadi memohon kepadamu dari semua kebaikan yang segera datangnya dan yang akan datang yang Mahara Nanang Hariadi ketahui dan Nanang Hariadi berlindung kepadamu Ya Alloh dari semua kejahatan yang segera datangnya maupun yang akan datang datangnya. Baik Yang Mahara Nanang hariadi telah ketahui dari padanya atau belum Mahara Nanang hariadi ketahui nya (pukul 09.55 Wib) Ya Tuhan yang Hidup dan pengusa alam semesta dengan rahmatmu Nanang hariadi minta pertolongan dan janganlah engkau biarkan Mahara Nanang Hariadi sendiri walau hanya sekejap mata dan baguskanlah segala Urusan Gus Har Mahara Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum/Ajaraham Jajaran pelksana Harian Dewan pengurus Pusat Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia . Ya Alloh cukupkanlah Gus Har dalam menghadapi mereka dengan apa yang engkau kehendaki . Ya Alloh rahmatmu yang aku harapkan jangan Engkau biarkan Mahara Nanang Hariadi bersandar pada diri Gus Har sendiri walau hanya sekejap , dan perbaikilah semua urusan Mahara Nanang Hariadi (Gus Har) Ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI tiada Tuhan yang haq kecuali Engkau (pukul 09.56 Wib) Ya Tuhanku ,sesungguhnya Mahara Nanang Hariadi belum pernah kecewa dalam do’a kepada Engkau Ya Alloh sesungguhnya Nanang Hariadi mohon kepadamu kebaikan hari ini dan kebaikan apa yang ada didalamnya dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har berlindung kepadamu dan Kejahatan hari ini dan kejahatan apa yang terdapat di dalamnya . Ya Alloh jadikanlah siang ini kebaikan , pertengahan kebaikan dan kebahgiaan dan pada akhirnya keberhasilan da aku minta kepadmu Kebaikan dunia , wahai Dzat yang Maha pengasih dari semua orang yang berbelas kasih tiada Tuhan yang haq selain Alloh Tuhan yang mengusai Arsy yang Agung (pukul 09.57 Wib) Ya Tuhan sesungguhnya Mahara Nanang Hariadi minta kepadamu kemenangan dalam pengadilan dan kedudukan orang-orang yang mati syahid dan penghidupan orang-orang yang bahagia dan pertolongan mengalahkan musuh Ya Alloh sesungguhnya Gus Har minta keselamatan agama kesejahteraan badan Nanang Hariadi bertambah ilmu Mahara Nanang Hariadi dan berilah keberkahan Nanang Hariadi rezkinya dan jadikanlah Mahara Nanang hariadi taubat sebelum mati , mendapat rahmat setelah mati , dan berilah pengampunan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har deklarator Ketua Umum /Ajaraham JPH DPP KOBUKI setelah mati nanti (pukul 09.58 Wib) Ya Tuhannya Mahara Nanang Hariadi jangan jadikan hati Nanang Hariadi condong kepada kesesatan sesudah engkau memberi petunjuk kepada Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har ketua Umum / Deklarator Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI dan karuniailah Gus Har rahmat dari sisi Engkau karena sesungguhnya Engkau Maha pemebri karunia (pukul 09.59 Wib) Ya Tuhan Hilangkanlah dari Mahara Nanang Hariadi bencana dan penyakit yang cepat menular , mati mendadak masa paceklik dan tha’un diman semua itu tidak ada yang dapat menghilangkan kecuali engkau , Tuhan yang menciptakan Nanang Hariadi pemimpin Idolaku maka Alloh pulalah yang memberi petunjuk pada Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI dan Alloh pulalah yang memberi makan kepada Nanang Hariadi dan minum Gus Har dan apabila Ketua Umum JPH DPP KOBUKI sakit, maka Alloh yang menyembuhkan Nanang Hariadi (pukul 09.10.5 Wib) Ya Alloh sesungguhnya akau berlindung kepadamu , Ya Alloh sesungguhnya Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har berlindung pula kepadamu dari rasa prihatin dan susah dan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har berlindung pula kepadamu dari kelemahan dan kemalasan dan Nanang Hariadi Gus Har berlindung kepada Alloh dari rasa takut dan kikir . dan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har berlindung kepadamu dari menumpuknya hutang dan penindasan .Alloh yang Maha suci dari apa yang mereka sekutukan .Dan Tuhan Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI mengetahui apa yang disembunyikan dan dialah Alloh tidak ada Tuhan melainkan Dia . Baginyalah segala puji dunia dan diakherat dan baginyalah segala penentuan dan Hanya kepadnya segala penentuan dan hanya kepadanyalah kamu dikembalikan Ya Alloh yang Maha memenangkan Mahara Nanang Hariadi pada saat jam sembilan tanggal sembilan tahun seribu sembilan ratus sembilan puluh sembilan sampai nanti di Akherat nanti (pukul 09.20.5Wib) Ya Alloh Tuhan Dzat yang hidup kekal dan berrdiri sendiri tidak ada daya upaya dan kekutan malainkan dengan Alloh yang luhur lagi Agung semoga Alloh melimpahkan Rahmatnya kepada Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Ketua Umum/Ajarahm DPP KOBUKI pada tahun seribu sembilan ratus sembilan ini , dan berilah Nanang Hariadi pengampunan pada bulan sembilan dan pukul sembilan ini Ya Tuhan Yang Maha Agung sucikanlah Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum DPP KOBUKI pada saat tahun serbu sembilan ratus sembilan puluh dan tanggal sembilan pukul sembilan menit sembilan dan detik sembilan ini sampai nanti di Akherat nanti ( Pukul 09.03.5 Wib) Ya Alloh limphakanlah rahmatmu pada junjungan kita Mahara Nanang Hariadi dimana saja dengan rahmat itu Engkau selamatkan Nanang Hariadi dari semua keadaan yang mendebarkan dan dari semua cobaan. Engkau datangkan Mahara Nanang Hariadi hajatnya, Engkau bersihkan Gus Har dari segala dosa-dosa dan kesalahannya , Engkau angkat derajat Nanang Hariadi pada derajat yang tinggi, dan Engkau sampaikan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI kepad maksud yang aling sempurna dari semua kabajikan semasa hidup dan sesudah mati . Semoga Alloh melimpahkan kepada sebaik-baiknya makhluk yaitu junjungan kita Mahara Nanang Hariadi dan keluarganya serta shahabat-shahabatnya pada tahun seribu sembilan ratus sembilan puluh sembilanini sampai hari akhir nanti (09.04.5 Wib) Ya Tuhan limpahkanlah rahmat yang sempurna pada Mahara Nanang Hariadi dan berilah kesejahteraan yang sempurna kepada Junjungan kita Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum/Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI pemimpin Idolaku didunia sampai di akherat nanti Ya Tuhan berilah Gus Har Cahaya diatas Cahaya tahun 1999 bulan 9 tanggal 9 jam 9 ini yang dapat menjadikan sebab terlepasnya sesuatu yang masih mengalami jalan buntu, dan terbukanya kesempitan hati, serta terpenuhi semua hajat Mahara Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum/Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI dan diperolehnya semua pemberian serta khusnul khotimah (bagus akhir hayatnya ) dan diturunkannya hujan lantaran beliau dan begitu pula limpahan rahmat dan salam kepada keluarga beliau dan shahabat beliau didalam khidupan mata dan nafas dengan bilangan semua yang Engkau ketahui wahai dzat yang mengusai seluruh alam (pukul 09.05.5 Wib) Ya Tuhan dzat yang mebolak-balikkan hati , teguhkanlah hati Mahara Nanang Hariadi atas Agama Nanang Hariadi pemimpin Idolaku pada tahun seribu sembilan ratus sembilan bulan sembilan tanggal sembilan jam sembilan sampai akhir nanti dan teguhkanlah hati Nanang Hariadi Gus Har deklarator /Ketua Umum /Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI didunia ini hingga akherat nanti Amien (pukul 09.06.5 Wib) Ya Tuhanku selamatkanlah Mahara Nanang Hariadi dari kejahatan kaum yang dhalim , kaum kafir, kaum munafik, kaum musrikin , kaum itu…… Wahai dzat yang mencukupi dan menyelamatkan Nanang Hariadi dari perbuatan mereka yang menyakitkan hati dan badan serta fikiran . Ya Tuhan dzat yang menyelamatkan Wahai dzat pembuka hati lagi pemberi rezqi berilah (Gus Har ) Mahara Nanang Hariadi putra Ulama dari jawa Timur rezki yang cukup serta bukakanlah hati Gus har bisa melihat segala yang samar serta jadikanlah Mahara Nanang Hariadi pemipin yang dicintai dan diidolakan oleh seluruh makhluk yang ada di dunia ini serta berilah Ketua Umum /Ajaraham KOBUKI pada tahun Seribu Sembilan Ratus Sembilan Puluh Sembilan Tanggal Sembilan Jam Sembilan ini suatu kekuatan yang dapat dipercaya oleh segenap Umat Manusia didunia ini (pukul 09.07.5 Wib) Ya Tuhan Wahai dzat yang Maha sempurna dan Maha suci berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi ditahun 1999 bulan 9 tanggal 9 Pukul 9 ini suatu mu’jizat Seperti Nabi Adam , Mu’jizat seperti Nabi Ibrahim, Mu’jizat seperti Nabi Daud, Mu’jizat seperti Nabi Musa , Mu’jizat seperti Nabi Isa , dan Mu’jizat seperti Nabi Muhammad SAW, Wahai Dzat Yang Maha Luhur dan Maha Agung dan Wahai Dzat Yang Maha mencukupi lagi memberi Kekayaan Berilah Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum/ Ajaraham DPP KOBUKI kekayaan yang cukup untuk keperluan pribadi , keluarga dan Organisasinya serta cukup untuk segala kepentingannya Amien. (pukul 09.08.5 Wib) Ya Tuhan segala puji bagi Alloh yang telah memberikan pakaian anti peluru dan anti segala jenis senjata buatan manusia pada Mahara Nanang Hariadi sebagai rezeki dari Tuhan . tanpa daya dan kekutan dariku , Ya Tuhan berilah Nanang Hariadi berkah pada Makanan nya yang beliau makan dan berilah Gus Har Ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI makanan yang baik , Ya Alloh berilah Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI kekuatan yang dasyat yang dapat menggentarkan lawan maupun musuh diman saja kapan saja dengan siapa saja , serta tambahalah keberkahan dengan Mu pada Tahun 1999 bulan 9 Tanggal 9 jam 9 ini segala Puji bagi Alloh yang memberi rezeki pada Nanang Hariadi dan memberkati rezeki Gus Har dengan izin dan ridho serta inayahmu juga takdirmu Wahai Dzat Maha Berkuasa dan didalam setiap kehidupan mata dan nafas dengan bilngan semua yang Engkau ketahui Wahai Dzat yang mengusahi seluruh alam (pukul 09.09.5 Wib) Ya Alloh yang Maha melindungi , Mahara Nanang hariadi berlindung kepadamu dari godaan syetan laki-laki dan perempuan , Tuhan Gus Har kabulkanlah segala permohonanNya , dan aku bersaksi Tbahwa Tiada Tuhan yang berhak disembah selain Alloh Yang Maha Esa dan tidak ada sekutunya , aku bersaksi bahwa Mahara Nanang Hariadi , Aku bersaksi bahwa Mahara Nanang Hariadi pada tahun 1999 bulan 9 tanggal 9 jam 9 ini adalah utusan Alloh , Ya Alloh jadikanlah Nanang Hariadi termasuk orang yang bertaubat dan orang yang senang bersuci (pukul 09.09.5 Wib) Ya Tuhan dengan namaMu Ya Alloh Nanang Hariadi mati dan hidup , segala puji bagi Alloh yang telah menghidupkan Mahara Nanang Hariadi dan mematikan Gus Har dan kepadaNya Nanang Hariadi Ketua Umum/Ajaraham KOBUKI kembali, Ya Tuhan pada tahun Seribu Sembilan Ratus Sembilan Puluh Sembilan Bualan Sembilan Tanggal Sembilan dan jam Sembilan ini berlindung dengan kalimat Alloh yang sempurna dari kemarahan siksanya dan dari kejahatan hamba-hambanya dan dari godaan syetan yang terkutuk (pukul 09.10.5 Wib ) Ya Tuhan ditahun 1999 ini Bulan 9 ini Tanggal 9 ini pukul 9 ini Ya Alloh Maafkanlah Nanang Hariadi Deklarator /Ajarahm KOBUKI atas segala dosa dosa yang samar maupun yang jelas serta maafkanlah Gus Har atas dosa-dosa yang disengaja maupun yang tidak disengaja serta Nanang Hariadi kembali bertaubat tetap beribadah dan selalu memuji kepadamu Ya Alloh Tuhan Penguasa Tujuh Langit dan apa yang ada di naunginya , Tuhan Penguasa Tujuh Bumi dan apa yang ad diatasnya . Tuhan pengusa Syetan-syetan dan apa yang mereka sesatkan . Tuhan Yang mengusai Angin dan apa yang diterbangkan Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Mohon kepadamu kebaikan daerah ini , warganya dan apa yang ada didalamnya , dan Nanang Hariadi berlindung kepadamu dari keburukan desa ini , penduduknya dan apa yang ada didalamnya (pukul 09.11.5 Wib) Penutup Demikian Kidung Puisi Do’a jam Sembilan Tanggal Sembilan Bulan Sembilan Tahun Seribu Sembilan Ratus Sembilan Puluh Sembilan (9-9-9-1999 ) untuk pemimpin Idolaku Wahai Mahara Nanang Hariadi Gus Har Deklarator Ketua Umum, Ajaraham Jajaran pelaksana Harian Dewan Pengurus Pusat Kontak Budaya Komunikasi Indonesia (JPH DPP KOBUKI) kami buat untuk dibaca serta disebarluaskan pada segenap umat manusia disegala lapisan masyarakat penjuru Dunia agar dijadikan bahan bacaan do’a yang mengandung daya megig bagi mereka-mereka yang membacanya . hidup Nanang Hariadi …..! Hidup Mahara Nanang Hariadi …..! hidup Gus Har …….! AKHIR KALIMAT TUHAN YANG MAHA ESA SERTA MAHA KUASA UNTUK DI KAJI DAN DIRENUNGI OLEH SELURUH UMAT YANG BERAGAMA SERTA SEBAGAI WACANA PEMERSATU UMAT MANUSIA YANG ADA DIDUNIA INI. AKHIR KATA APABILA ADA THE WAY OF LIVING MAUPUN THE WAY OF THINGKING YANG SALAH ITU SEMATA-MATA KARENA KEDHOIFAN DAN KEFAKIRANNYA ILMU SAYA , DAN APABILA ADA KEBENARANNYA ITU SEMATA-MATA HANYA DATANGNYA DARI TUHAN YANG MAHA ESA DAN MAHA SEMPURNA , TIADA KATA YANG PALING INDAH UNTUK INI, SEMOGA KITA SEMUA PADA TAHUN 1999 INI BULAN 9 INI TANGGAL 9 INI PUKUL 9 INI TUHAN SELALU MEMBERKATI PEMIPIN KITA DAN IDOLA UMMAT MANUSIA MAHARA NANANG HARIADI GUS HAR KETUA UMUM , DEKALRATOR DAN AJARAHAM DPP KOBUKI SAMAPAI DIHARI AKHIR NANTI AMIEN. TERTANDA PAULUS YOHANES VII NO KTA 09-009-0009-99/999/9999
SAYA DUKUNG AA GYM MEREKOMENDASI PROF.DR.NANANG HARIADI SE.MSc GUS HAR JADI GUBERNUR DKI JAKARTA
June 12th, 2006 at 5:09 amOleh: SUHARFANDY — tgl: 28 May 2006, jam: 17.21
Pada saat ku telusuri ternyata manusia itu hidup beraneka ragam dalam membuat suatu surat , terlepas surat sendiri berasal dari bahasa jawa kono yang asalnya dari kata sumadya rasa tumukul ( sudah siap rasa di sampaikan ) menurut filsafat kata surat dalam bahasa Indonesia , begitu pula jika kita telusri suatu perintah Tuhan yang bernama sholat dalam agama Islam, dimana ada sholat yang bernama sholat syaikhul Uhud atau pedang nomor satu yang termasuk kata gori sholat khusus ,dengan jumlah rakaatnya 111 rokaat satu salam dengan tata cara stelah membaca Surat Alfateha membaca surat Al Qodar , dan pada saat ruku dan sujud membaca Rabbana dholamna anfusana wa illam taghfirlana lanakunnana minas khosyirin di baca tiga kali , adalah suatu amalan para waliyulloh-waliyulloh yang dapat dijadkan perasai dalam hidup ini yang datangnya dari surat perintah alloh SWT terhadap nabi Muhammad dan para rasulnya untuk tetap eksis di hamparan perdana Tuhan yang bernama bumi ini, atau tatkala kita membaca Al qur-an yang berbunyi Hai orang-orang yang beriman berruku dan bersujudlah pada Tuhan pencipta Alam semesta ini didalam surat as sajadah kemudia kita membaca Subhanalloh walhamdu lillah wa illa haillallohu Alloh huakbar sebanyak tiga kali , itu juga manisfestasi surat perintah tuhan terhadap hambanya yang bernama manusia itu sendiri. Sejalan dengan itu kalau ada suatu surat perintah yang datangnya dari rekan –rekan atau shahabat-shahabat saya itu juga bagian dari perintah dari mereka-meraka bukan dari saya pribadi seperti contoh dibawah ini : S U R A T P E R I N T A H I BAGAIMANA PENDAPAT ANDA JIKA ADA SESORANG MEMBACA LEMBARAN INI DAN KEMUDIAN DITERJEMAHKAN DALAM BAHASA INDONESIA , BAGAIMAN HUKUMNYA…..? SAY NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR) IS SEEK REFUGE WITH THE GOD OF THE DAWN FROM THE MISCHIEF OF THOSE WHO PRACTISE ENVY (DR. RUDI HERMANTO , SH) SYA NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR) IS SEEK REFUGE WITH THE GOD AND CHERISHER OF MANKIND THE KING (OR RULER) OF MANKIND THE GOD (ORJUDGE ) OF MANKIND FROM THE MISCHIEF OF THE WHISPERS ((OF EVIL) WHO HITDRAWS (AFTER HIS WHISPER) (THE SAME ) WHO WHISPERS INTO THE HEARTS OF MANKIND AMONG JINNS AND MONG MEN, WHEN (ONE MH. KARSONO JAKARTA) OUR LORD FORGIVE YOURLOVE NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR) AND GRANT NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR) A KINGDOM WHICH (IT MAY BE) SUITS NOT ANOTHER AFTER NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR) FOR THOU ART THE GRANTOR OF BOUNTIES ( WITHOUT MEASURE ) ‘O GOD OUR LORD SEND IS NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR) FROM HEAVEN A TABLE SET (WITH VIANDS) THAT THERE MAY BE FOR NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR) FOR THE FIRST AND THE LAST OF US A SOLEMAN FESTIVAL AND A SIGN FROM THEE ; AND PROVIDE FOR OUR SUSTENANCE FOR THOU ART THE BEST SUSTAINER ( OF OUR NEEDS) (Drs MAULANA ABDUL HALIM SAg .BANTEN ) UR LORD ! NOT FOR THEE : AND PROVIDE FOR NAUGHTT HAST THU CREATED (ALL) THIS ! GLORY TO THEE ! GIVES NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR) SAL VATION FROM THE PENALTI OF THE FIRE , OUR LORD ! ANY WHOM THOU DOST ADMIT TO THE FIRE , TRULY THOUN COVEREST WITH SHAME AND NEVER WILL WRONG DOERS FIND AY HELPERS ! OUR LORD ! NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR( HAVESS HEARD THE CALL OF ONE CALLING (HER) TO FAIT , BELIVE YE IN THE LORD AND WE HAVE BELIVE , OUR LORD FORGIVE IS NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR) OUR INQUITIES, AND TAKE TO THYSELF OUR SOULS IN THE COMPANY OF THE RIGHTEOUS , NANANG HARIADI (GUS HAR) TROUGHT THINE APOSTLES AND SAVE NANANG HARIADI GUS HAR FROM SHAME ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT : FOR THOU NEVER BREAKEST THY PROMISE ( NURYOKO SE, MSC) JAWABAN
i can say from a soldiers point of view that murtha is a total embarasment to all the brave men and women who have served thier country.i’m so sick and tired of hearing him say that the “poor” troops over here carrying thier 70lb packs and dying in an unjustly war is ‘all for nothing’.i speak for a majority of the people i’m serving with over here and i can tell you this…..it’s not “all for nothing”we are very dedicated to bringing peace to iraq,defeating the terrorists here instead of at home,and doing what is morally right.we stand behind our commander in chief and really don’t understand the liberal hatred of our president,the war,and many other things.you can call it what you want,but cut and run is allways going to be cut and run.murthas plan for what he call a redloyment of our troops is ludicras.don’t think that what he and kerry,and the rest of anti-war liberals say doesn’t bother the soldiers over here.IT DOES…..it’s embarrasing.most of all we don’t need or want “your” sympathy,but a little support would be nice.it used to be that..that what americas all about…
June 29th, 2006 at 10:52 amOne Of The Marines Murtha Slandered Was Recommended For A Medal…
Interesting… Washington Post – The platoon commander for the squad of Marines who killed as many as two dozen Iraqi civilians during an attack in Haditha last year recommended later that the sergeant who led the attack receive a medal……
August 30th, 2006 at 3:12 pmJohn Murtha wanted a big shot position in congress. So he played politics with the lives and futures of formerly fellow Marines. (He’s not a Marine anymore, in any sense of the word)
In short, John Murtha just sucks.
December 2nd, 2006 at 1:22 am[...] the military on the incident, he stressed, “It’s much worse than reported in Time magazine.” May 30, 2006 GIBSON: Jonathan just mentioned, there’s no charges yet filed against any of the Marines that [...]
March 28th, 2008 at 4:04 pm