Comments on: “Democracy is on the march in Iraq.” http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:46:10 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-589688 JPark Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:04:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-589688 Some marines slaughtered innocent people. It was premeditated murder. They fricking shot a 3 year old child. Oh, but TALKING about it is what hurts the morale of our troops. Got it. Having your buddy have his head blown up, well, that is ok until the media reports it. That is when the morale goes down. The administration leading these kids into an untenable, unwinnable situation with their bungling incompetence doen't hurt morale, pointing it out does. Why do the media hate our troops? Bunch of traitors. Some marines slaughtered innocent people. It was premeditated murder. They fricking shot a 3 year old child. Oh, but TALKING about it is what hurts the morale of our troops. Got it. Having your buddy have his head blown up, well, that is ok until the media reports it. That is when the morale goes down. The administration leading these kids into an untenable, unwinnable situation with their bungling incompetence doen’t hurt morale, pointing it out does. Why do the media hate our troops? Bunch of traitors.

]]> By: sardonic http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-589037 sardonic Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:50:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-589037 On the march? It's soaring like the Hindenberg. On the march? It’s soaring like the Hindenberg.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-588968 big papa Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:50:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-588968 That’s all he knows how to say. Of course, I’d be surprised if he even wrote that himself. Comment by Punchy #4 <strong>Punchy, Bushiva had that stump speech talking point- "freedom's on the march"... ...made into a rubber stamp... ...it's a form letter... ...like "fighting the enemy over there...yada yada yada" ...what a basta*d... ...Bushiva makes King Louis of pre-revolution France look positively... "compassionate"...</strong> That’s all he knows how to say. Of course, I’d be surprised if he even wrote that himself.

Comment by Punchy #4

Punchy,

Bushiva had that stump speech talking point- “freedom’s on the march”…

…made into a rubber stamp…

…it’s a form letter…

…like “fighting the enemy over there…yada yada yada”

…what a basta*d…

…Bushiva makes King Louis of pre-revolution France look positively… “compassionate”…

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-588843 Evil Spaniard Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:25:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-588843 <em>“Democracy is on the march in Iraq.”</em>? Maybe is more accurate to say "Democracy has marched steadily out of Iraq". “Democracy is on the march in Iraq.”? Maybe is more accurate to say “Democracy has marched steadily out of Iraq”.

]]> By: kclaf http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587755 kclaf Wed, 31 May 2006 21:23:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587755 Thank you #37 Very refreshing, and congrats to those kids, they display actions that give hope that the future will be better than the present. Let's hope they don't become jaded by the money market this country has become. Thank you #37
Very refreshing, and congrats to those kids, they display actions that give hope that the future will be better than the present. Let’s hope they don’t become jaded by the money market this country has become.

]]> By: Jane E. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587599 Jane E. Schneider Wed, 31 May 2006 19:41:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587599 #41, Tobey, I agree, both Blair and Bush, have, I believe, previously stated that if they were asked to leave, they would leave. Whatever happened to Iraq becoming a "sovereign nation"? Of course, Bush has no idea what the word "sovereignty" means, as he has previously demonstrated. You'd think that both leaders would jump at the excuse to leave; which only goes to prove that the release of Iraq from a tyrannical dictator, and the establishment of a democratically-elected leadership in Iraq were NOT the real reasons for invasion, as the Bush administration is at such pains to convince us. Um, well, Bush has been trying to convince us that those were the reasons since the WMDs didn't turn up. #41, Tobey, I agree, both Blair and Bush, have, I believe, previously stated that if they were asked to leave, they would leave. Whatever happened to Iraq becoming a “sovereign nation”? Of course, Bush has no idea what the word “sovereignty” means, as he has previously demonstrated. You’d think that both leaders would jump at the excuse to leave; which only goes to prove that the release of Iraq from a tyrannical dictator, and the establishment of a democratically-elected leadership in Iraq were NOT the real reasons for invasion, as the Bush administration is at such pains to convince us. Um, well, Bush has been trying to convince us that those were the reasons since the WMDs didn’t turn up.

]]> By: James http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587575 James Wed, 31 May 2006 19:20:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587575 "Democracy is on the march". But it only moves in one direction,straight ahead, don't get in the way. Sheesh, even my kids cheap Radio Shack RC car has foreward, reverse + left/right. “Democracy is on the march”. But it only moves in one direction,straight ahead, don’t get in the way. Sheesh, even my kids cheap Radio Shack RC car has foreward, reverse + left/right.

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587566 Tobey Tall Wed, 31 May 2006 19:15:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587566 The occupation is plainly not bringing peace to Iraq nor is it preventing civil war, however defined. Almost all coalition forces are now hunkered down in their barracks protecting themselves. Even reconstruction, such as it is, has been subcontracted to private mercenaries. Iraq is a failed state. Its democracy is meaningless without order, and order is beyond Britain's capacity to deliver. <strong>Now Blair has been asked by the elected ruler of Iraq to leave by the end of the year. By what conceivable right does he refuse?</strong> The occupation is plainly not bringing peace to Iraq nor is it preventing civil war, however defined. Almost all coalition forces are now hunkered down in their barracks protecting themselves. Even reconstruction, such as it is, has been subcontracted to private mercenaries. Iraq is a failed state. Its democracy is meaningless without order, and order is beyond Britain’s capacity to deliver.

Now Blair has been asked by the elected ruler of Iraq to leave by the end of the year. By what conceivable right does he refuse?

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587561 Tobey Tall Wed, 31 May 2006 19:10:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587561 <strong>Britain has been asked to leave Iraq by the leader it helped to install. Only arrogance or myopia can explain its refusal</strong> <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1786426,00.html" rel="nofollow">READ HERE</a> Britain has been asked to leave Iraq by the leader it helped to install. Only arrogance or myopia can explain its refusal

READ HERE

]]> By: Darwin http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587554 Darwin Wed, 31 May 2006 19:05:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587554 I can't help but think that all this talk about indicting Marines, and not tolerating massacres must be affecting the morale of the troops I can’t help but think that all this talk about indicting Marines, and not tolerating massacres must be affecting the morale of the troops

]]> By: Darwin http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587555 Darwin Wed, 31 May 2006 19:05:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587555 I can't help but think that all this talk about indicting Marines, and not tolerating massacres must be affecting the morale of the troops I can’t help but think that all this talk about indicting Marines, and not tolerating massacres must be affecting the morale of the troops

]]> By: kq http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587541 kq Wed, 31 May 2006 18:51:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587541 #34 - you don't give kids enough credit. A ten-year-old could easily come up with the idea to write the president all on her own. My students came up with the idea of writing to the president after reading about the ANWR in their Time for Kids magazine. All I did was find the address for them and show them how to address an envelope properly. A 4th grader at my school organized a food drive for the holidays one year, while her parents sat back and said it wouldn't work. She proved them wrong. We have 7th graders in our district who spend each weekend reading to the little kids in homeless shelters, 5th graders who help restore salmon stream habitat, and 3rd & 4th graders who make and sell hand-stamped Valentines cards with the profits to go to the kids at Primary Children's Hospital, and high-school kids who tutor our younger kids and organize fund-raisers for families and students without insurance in need of special medical care - i.e. cancer treatments, surgery. The vast majority of these kids don't have supportive parents, or even have both parents around, most of them are/were English Language Learners, and probably 80% live well below the poverty level. But they are aware that others have even less than them and are determined to do something about, rather than sit back and be cynical. What about you? #34 – you don’t give kids enough credit. A ten-year-old could easily come up with the idea to write the president all on her own. My students came up with the idea of writing to the president after reading about the ANWR in their Time for Kids magazine. All I did was find the address for them and show them how to address an envelope properly. A 4th grader at my school organized a food drive for the holidays one year, while her parents sat back and said it wouldn’t work. She proved them wrong. We have 7th graders in our district who spend each weekend reading to the little kids in homeless shelters, 5th graders who help restore salmon stream habitat, and 3rd & 4th graders who make and sell hand-stamped Valentines cards with the profits to go to the kids at Primary Children’s Hospital, and high-school kids who tutor our younger kids and organize fund-raisers for families and students without insurance in need of special medical care – i.e. cancer treatments, surgery. The vast majority of these kids don’t have supportive parents, or even have both parents around, most of them are/were English Language Learners, and probably 80% live well below the poverty level. But they are aware that others have even less than them and are determined to do something about, rather than sit back and be cynical. What about you?

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587535 Evil Spaniard Wed, 31 May 2006 18:43:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587535 #34 If kids of 5 years can write to Santa to ask for his favorite wishes, why can't a kid write a letter to the President of the USA? After all, kids see TV news, and know about Iraq (altough a bit as a fairy tale country), and know that the President of the USA is a powerful godlike man who can do almost magically anything he wants. At least, is so as they see him in the Prez speeches. And I bet that many USA kids see the Prez as a Santa's reincarnation. #34 If kids of 5 years can write to Santa to ask for his favorite wishes, why can’t a kid write a letter to the President of the USA? After all, kids see TV news, and know about Iraq (altough a bit as a fairy tale country), and know that the President of the USA is a powerful godlike man who can do almost magically anything he wants. At least, is so as they see him in the Prez speeches. And I bet that many USA kids see the Prez as a Santa’s reincarnation.

]]> By: Filth O'Lielly http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587530 Filth O'Lielly Wed, 31 May 2006 18:36:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587530 Bush doesn't do email, why should anyone believe that Bush answered that letter? Playing Golf, doing photo-ops, drinking, snorting cocaine, Making Money on the People, thats more important than actually taking part of the war you started isn't it? Right? I mean Golf and money are more important than lives right? Money after all is why we are at war right? The Economy? Sacrifice your life for wall street? Right? Right? Bush doesn’t do email, why should anyone believe that Bush answered that letter?

Playing Golf, doing photo-ops, drinking, snorting cocaine, Making Money on the People, thats more important than actually taking part of the war you started isn’t it?
Right?
I mean Golf and money are more important than lives right?
Money after all is why we are at war right?
The Economy? Sacrifice your life for wall street?
Right? Right?

]]> By: onthefence http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587519 onthefence Wed, 31 May 2006 18:27:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587519 <em>$5 says Georgie never read that letter, and if he did, that means he just crapped all over a 10 year old girl’s heart-felt concern for others. Yep, he’s his mama’s boy… Comment by Zookeeper — May 31, 2006 @ 12:10 pm</em> Of course he didn't read it, but I'm willing to bet that that girl didn't write that letter on her own or come up with the idea. I hate when parents use their children for any political purpose, it's wrong and it should be condemned. $5 says Georgie never read that letter, and if he did, that means he just crapped all over a 10 year old girl’s heart-felt concern for others. Yep, he’s his mama’s boy…

Comment by Zookeeper — May 31, 2006 @ 12:10 pm

Of course he didn’t read it, but I’m willing to bet that that girl didn’t write that letter on her own or come up with the idea. I hate when parents use their children for any political purpose, it’s wrong and it should be condemned.

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587478 Tobey Tall Wed, 31 May 2006 18:00:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587478 Thsi war does seem to being going on and on and on and on and on I have had it up to my teeth with America get out now BAGHDAD, May 30 (Reuters) - Iraq's prime minister said on Tuesday his patience was wearing thin with excuses from U.S. troops that they kill civilians by "mistake" He said a timetable of 18 months he mentioned last week for Iraqi forces having overall control of the whole country could even be shorter if U.S.-led forces were serious about giving support and training to the new Iraqi army. <strong>Their U.N. mandate expires in December and the government will have to negotiate the terms on which they stay. </strong>Maliki, a Shi'ite, seems keen to speak up for the concerns felt especially among minority Sunnis over U.S. tactics in their areas. Thsi war does seem to being going on and on and on and on and on
I have had it up to my teeth with America get out now

BAGHDAD, May 30 (Reuters) – Iraq’s prime minister said on Tuesday his patience was wearing thin with excuses from U.S. troops that they kill civilians by “mistake”

He said a timetable of 18 months he mentioned last week for Iraqi forces having overall control of the whole country could even be shorter if U.S.-led forces were serious about giving support and training to the new Iraqi army.

Their U.N. mandate expires in December and the government will have to negotiate the terms on which they stay. Maliki, a Shi’ite, seems keen to speak up for the concerns felt especially among minority Sunnis over U.S. tactics in their areas.

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587441 Evil Spaniard Wed, 31 May 2006 17:43:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587441 #30 Remember the Warner's Toons? The light at the end of the tunnel is a train comming. #30 Remember the Warner’s Toons? The light at the end of the tunnel is a train comming.

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587438 Evil Spaniard Wed, 31 May 2006 17:42:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587438 I bet GW Bush had a bad time reading a letter of a 5 years old. So much difficult words! I bet GW Bush had a bad time reading a letter of a 5 years old. So much difficult words!

]]> By: Dot Connector http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587434 Dot Connector Wed, 31 May 2006 17:41:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587434 "Democracy is on the march" It's too bad that "Light at the end of the tunnel" has already been used. As was any reference to "Last throes", "Turning corners", "Standing down when standing up", and "Up or down vote" “Democracy is on the march”

It’s too bad that “Light at the end of the tunnel” has already been used.

As was any reference to “Last throes”, “Turning corners”, “Standing down when standing up”, and “Up or down vote”

]]> By: Doobie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-587370 Doobie Wed, 31 May 2006 17:12:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/democracy-is-on-the-march-in-iraq/#comment-587370 CORRECTION: A <strong>fundamentalist Islamic democracy</strong> is on the march in Iraq. A fundamentalist Islamic democracy <strong>with extremely close and long standing ties to Iran</strong> is on the march in Iraq. A fundamentalist Islamic democracy <strong>is on the march in Iraq as a direct response to the horrific attacks of 9/11</strong>. <strong>Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq is on the march in Iraq.</strong> CORRECTION:

A fundamentalist Islamic democracy is on the march in Iraq.

A fundamentalist Islamic democracy with extremely close and long standing ties to Iran is on the march in Iraq.

A fundamentalist Islamic democracy is on the march in Iraq as a direct response to the horrific attacks of 9/11.

Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq is on the march in Iraq.

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