Bush’s Domestic Policy Chief Wished Upon Iraq Journalists a ‘Very Loud Explosion Very Nearby’
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Bush’s Domestic Policy Chief Wished Upon Iraq Journalists a ‘Very Loud Explosion Very Nearby’
Karl Zinsmeister, Bush’s new domestic policy adviser, 3/28/03:
Alas, many of the journalists observable in this war theater are bursting with knee-jerk suspicions and antagonisms for the warriors all around them. A significant number are whiny and appallingly soft. [...] I almost wished there would be a very loud explosion very nearby just to shut up their rattling.
Reuters, today:
With the deaths of two CBS television crew members from a car bomb in Baghdad, the number of journalists who have died in hostile incidents in Iraq has risen to 71 - the same number killed or presumed dead during the Vietnam War.
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To do it the FAUX News Headline way:
Did Satan reward the request of one of his followers? You decide.
May 31st, 2006 at 10:45 amThe Zinsmeister-meister obviously doesn't adhere to that 'compassionate conservative' label.
May 31st, 2006 at 10:46 amLatest from the Whore House:
"Serves them right! Next time they will report the good stuff. Besides now they can have their virgins."
May 31st, 2006 at 10:48 amIt is amazing to me that there are individuals in this country who still believe this is the party of God. There is not one compasionate person amongst them.
May 31st, 2006 at 10:51 amAs Truman Capote said - There have been more tears shed over unanswered prayers than answered ones..
Be careful what you wish for...
May 31st, 2006 at 10:56 am#4 Jules,
May 31st, 2006 at 10:56 amYou said it!
114 countries back Iran nuclear position
The 114-member Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) was expected on Tuesday to adopt the draft text, which makes no criticism of Iran's nuclear activities and says Tehran is cooperating with nuclear watchdog the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
I want Iran and all other countries to develop nuclear weapons that way If global warming kicks in and countries get too hot and become desert - they can blow america up as america would do if there ship was sinking
May 31st, 2006 at 11:00 amYou know Jules - we should test their claims by sending them to Iraq. I mean ,if they are right, then god would let anything happen to them, right? And if they refuse to go, then surely, they don't have faith at all... I get tired of the rhetoric with these clowns.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:01 amKarl Zinsmeister--reporter, cheerleader, comic-book author. A true American patriot, worthy of the Bush administration!
May 31st, 2006 at 11:02 amGod tells republicans to stay in the USA where it is safe and let those unpatriotic liberals go fight the battles for them!!!
They are cowards who hide behind God and the flag. I am becoming so sick of these people. When is the revolution going to begin?
May 31st, 2006 at 11:04 amOh c'mon. You guys just don't understand Republican humor. Nothing gives those righties a great big belly laugh quite like the thought of someone getting blown to shreds by a bomb. Or having a supreme court justice killed with rat poison. Or maybe seeing the New York Times building blown up like the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
Oh, they are a zany bunch of characters, aren't they.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:07 amWhen is the revolution going to begin?
Comment by Jules — May 31, 2006 @ 11:04 am
According to the historians I have read, not until the pain of reality (usually death) is greater than the fear of 'what if'... $3 a gallon gasoline isn't painful enough.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:11 amJust like Ary-Ann Coulter wanted Tim McVeigh to blow-up the New York Times building. Fascists like to kill their opponents.
Another war mongering douche-bag in the Bush inner circle, go figure.
-GSD
May 31st, 2006 at 11:16 amThe Press who have covered the Iraq war/occupation deserve NO defense, but nor do the Bush Regime flunkies deserve any praise! Iraq has been occupied fot its OIL, so that is why the whole thing has degenerated into a fiasco > greed destroys empires!
May 31st, 2006 at 11:18 amHere is the usual problem with our media. One would expect this to be a major story with calls for apologies from the individual and the administration. I do not care how long ago the article was written. It would be the major talking point had this been a Democrat.
The Dems have to learn the art of ridicule. This is what has been done to us for years. The reason that Republicans can push such stupid arguments down the throats of the public and the press.
The Dems have become comic book characters because of the rights meme of ridicule. The Dems neither give back the same or timely and forecfully respond. After a while, the Repug characterizations become accepted truths.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:19 amMy husband and I were talking about the November elections last night. He is worried the republicans are going to rig the machines again.
I truly believe if this happens people will finally have had enough "pain." It will be 1776 all over again!
May 31st, 2006 at 11:21 amI guess he got all that and more.
R2K
May 31st, 2006 at 11:22 amYes, we rednecks, like Karl Spinmeister, sometimes wish an IED would go off near one of those smart-aleck bad news reporters, but with Iraq being such a peaceful, thriving democracy thanks to Genius Dubya (support our troops), what are the odds of that ever happening?
May 31st, 2006 at 11:33 amA few days ago Al Gore said in London that the American government has been taken over by a bunch of right-wing nuts...I don't have the exact quote. This should become the mantra of every major Democrat in Washington who has not sold out the the NeoCons and the big money interests.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:35 amA few days ago Al Gore said in London that the American government has been taken over by a bunch of right-wing nuts...I don't have the exact quote. This should become the mantra of every major Democrat in Washington who has not sold out the NeoCons and the big money interests.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:37 amI truly believe if this happens people will finally have had enough “pain.†It will be 1776 all over again!
Comment by Jules — May 31, 2006 @ 11:21 am
I guess I don't have as much faith in the sheep as you do. I think that self-preservation will tolerate a lot more than this. I mean, look at what the Germans tolerated Hitler doing... Even if it wasn't in their own interest.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:39 amYou know Jules - we should test their claims by sending them to Iraq. I mean ,if they are right, then god would let anything happen to them, right? And if they refuse to go, then surely, they don’t have faith at all… I get tired of the rhetoric with these clowns.
Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2006 @ 11:01 am
This is one of life great ironies.
Why are those that believe themselves to be the inevitable recipients of Gods greatest rewards so reluctant to receive them?
They hate science until they get sick... then they use science to resist Gods will and their heavenly rewards?
Seems to me that religion is something that is use by these people to exert power over others... if they really believed the shit that they espouse then they would be lining up to die and nary a tear would be shed at a funeral.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:39 amLet's get this straight...
Bush's policy chief, on the record, wished
journalists would be in harm's way in Iraq.
Why?
The need for secrecy supercedes decency.
When one has enough money to not worry
about the day to day issues we all face,
all that's left for them to get their rocks off
is destroying things or people.
They do that well. In fact, it's all they do.
'Compassionate Conservatism', my ass.
This bunch is begging for more 'action'.
ADDHD is prevalent among this crowd.
Death & danger only holds that attention
span long enough to move on to the next
contrived war, all in the name of peace.
You know, George Orwell was only off by about
May 31st, 2006 at 11:41 am20 yrs. when he titled '1984'. If fact, 'Lord of
the Flies' could very well describe the BUSH
BUNCH as adolescents.
Had Enough, America?
Isn't Rove the bird this whack job's replacing? Isn't it funny how when Bush nominates or appoints a replacement for another rat leaving the Titanic administration, the new guy's almost invariably worse than his/her predecessor?
Along similar lines: “Journalists die and we know who they are. We know they liked to cook and play Scrabble. But we don't know who killed them, and their killers will never be brought to justice. The enemy has no face, just a finger on a detonator.†-- Maureen Dowd, Live From Baghdad: More Killing.
Sorry I didn't post it sooner. I'm home sick with a flu bug (and I have to go to my kid's baccalaureate tonight, too).
May 31st, 2006 at 11:41 amThe NR story is tripe; it's full of generalizations and stereotypes. Journalists are preening wannabes who are desparate to give out secret information in order to get a scoop.
Maybe it's because they had read all the stories about the WMD not being there, and weren't fooled by the Saddam-9/11 conflation.
You mean like Geraldo Rivera?
May 31st, 2006 at 11:44 amNow if we could get several of those very loud bangs up the as*es of Zinmeister, and his gods Bushiva and L'il Dick...
...the world might become a better place...
May 31st, 2006 at 11:45 am#16, #21 - Jules, I'm with UB, I don't have the same faith in the American public, now that I've experienced it first hand. Bread and Circuses that's what they care about apart from a committed minority that still cares. I can't think of a reason why the average American would get off their duffs and into the streets. Did the immigration law marches beat the anti-war demos of 2003 for size? I think they might have.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:54 amThey hate science until they get sick… then they use science to resist Gods will and their heavenly rewards?
Like the woman who has some medical fertility assistance to get pregnant and thenrefuses to selectively remove three or four embryos so she won't have seven children because she doesn't want to play god. The hypocrisy is amazing. I guess science only counts when it's for self-serving purposes...
Seems to me that religion is something that is use by these people to exert power over others… if they really believed the shit that they espouse then they would be lining up to die and nary a tear would be shed at a funeral.
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist — May 31, 2006 @ 11:39
I highly detest oragnized religion - because I think it exists to do this very thing - manipulate the masses into accepting and supporting some very horrific things.
One of my best friends is from Mumbai. He told me about the Christian missionaries who are going into poor Muslim and Hindu areas of India and telling the people that they will give them food only in exchange for their conversion to Christianity. My question - if Christianity is so wonderful, why do you have to convert anyone? Especially with food?
May 31st, 2006 at 11:54 amSo he admits that BUsh is not able to keep America safe and/or that Iraq is not the safe place full of happy news that they claim it is?
May 31st, 2006 at 11:55 am#4 Party of God - translated in Arabic - Hizbollah
May 31st, 2006 at 11:56 amJust curious, have any Fox correspondents been killed or injured. I'm only curious because I wonder if they get out into the dangerous area's or not. If they don't go where it is dangerous, then their viewers are going to get a false sense of iraq being all warm and fuzzy.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:57 amBread and Circuses that’s what they care about
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 31, 2006 @ 11:54 am
I love that expression... Quite fitting.
May 31st, 2006 at 11:58 amWhat is up with the Repub obseesion over violent death.....
Ann Coulter, this moron, Rush, hannity, Savage all have called for the death of someone or some group of people they dont like.....
I challenge you to find a voice on the left that has called for such a disgusting act of retribution due to political disagreement.......
May 31st, 2006 at 11:58 am#31,
May 31st, 2006 at 12:06 pmUnlike CBS & ABC, who are truly 'embedded' with our soldiers,
FOX news is embedded up Bush's Ass.
They're not losing any journalists because they don't have any.
Just loudmouths making up fake headlines so they can keep
the Conservative Mushrooms in the dark & eating shit.
Zinsmeister is just like the rest of this administration, but instead of just smiling and laughing at inappropriate times, he lets his bubbling pus-filled hate dribble out of his mouth.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:06 pmI think there are some on the left who have called for Bush to be killed. I would not go so far as to say the left has never advocated such a thought. It does seem like there is far more wishes of violence from the right though. Everthing from O'rielly wishing an attack on San Francisco, Coulter wishing the deaths of supreme court justices, or anyone who disagrees with her, etc.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:09 pmSorry I didn’t post it sooner. I’m home sick with a flu bug (and I have to go to my kid’s baccalaureate tonight, too.
Comment by jurassicpork
JP,
Please get well soon.
#4 Party of God - translated in Arabic - Hizbollah
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Terry,
May 31st, 2006 at 12:12 pmVery interesting. Thank you.
I think there are some on the left who have called for Bush to be killed.
Comment by Krazny — May 31, 2006 @ 12:09 pm
I do not want him to die. I do however hate him. I have never hated anyone before. I can honestly say I would not be sad if he were to contract some kind of disease. It would be karma if it were something that researchers are using stem cell research to find a cure. I know that sounds horrible, but I cannot help it. He is pure evil.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:18 pm#36 I think there are some on the left who have called for Bush to be killed.
Could you quote one left wing author, pundit, or public official who has called for Bush to be killed?
Zinsmeister, Coulter, etc. are not bloggers. These are well-known media personalities or members of the administration who talk so casually about reporters and other people they don't like getting killed. This is an all-too-common trait of the right. Limbaugh thinks that torture is a big joke. I'd like to see his fat ass in a torture cell and find out how much torture he can take before they get him to scream like a little girl. Coulter can't open her mouth in public without chortling over the thought of murdering someone she doesn't like. We even had Republican members of Congress and the Senate talk about judges getting bumped off if they don't do the 'people's' bidding. See a pattern, yet? Pay attention and you will.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:22 pm#38 - Jules, I feel the same way. I was SO disappointed in Bill Clinton when the Monica thing came out, I couldn't look at him or listen to him for months. Not for getting the BJ -- that was an issue between him and Hillary -- but because it was so stupid and arrogant. But GWB, that's a completely different thing. His stupidity and arrogance have divided this country, brought us to the brink of losing everything we stand for, and have killed so many people. And yet, he smiles and jokes...despicable.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:27 pm#28
One of my best friends is from Mumbai. He told me about the Christian missionaries who are going into poor Muslim and Hindu areas of India and telling the people that they will give them food only in exchange for their conversion to Christianity. My question - if Christianity is so wonderful, why do you have to convert anyone? Especially with food?
Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2006 @ 11:54 am
I'm sure this is nothing more than a gross exageration. Missionaries will give food and medical care indescriminately. Of course they will preach and teach the Gospel during that process---that's the main reason they are there. For someone with a Christian background, I'm suprised that you would ask why missionaries would want to convert anyone. Have you never heard of the Great Commission? Jesus told his followers (current and future) to go into ALL the world and preach the Gospel, and to teach them to be disciples. The New Testiment is full of examples of the Church sending, someone going, those that preach, and those that hear and believe. Criticize it all you want, but that's the way it works.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:30 pmI recently saw a picture of Lyndon Johnson with his head bowed and his face in his hands. It spoke volumes to me of those times. We will never see a picture like that of GWB, unless it's grief for himself.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:31 pmI recently saw a picture of Lyndon Johnson with his head bowed and his face in his hands. It spoke volumes to me of those times. We will never see a picture like that of GWB, unless it’s grief for himself.
Comment by Zookeeper — May 31, 2006 @ 12:31 pm
He never will. When you look at him don't his eyes look vacant? There is nothing behind them. That is why he can do all of the things he does and is able to sleep at night. He has no soul!
May 31st, 2006 at 12:38 pmThanks for giving us the heads up that we don't have to read your post.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:40 pmSorry I didn’t post it sooner. I’m home sick with a flu bug (and I have to go to my kid’s baccalaureate tonight, too).
Comment by jurassicpork
Feel better soon!
May 31st, 2006 at 12:42 pmHe has no soul!
Comment by Jules
He gets that from his mom.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:43 pmI’m sure this is nothing more than a gross exageration.
Considering you don't know my friend - who has nothing to gain from telling me this - I'm sure you're being defensive because you don't want to believe it's true. His culture is not like ours. I believe him. He's not the only one saying this. Besides, Christianity has done worse - Crusades, Inquisition, etc.
For someone with a Christian background, I’m suprised that you would ask why missionaries would want to convert anyone.
Comment by Antagonist — May 31, 2006 @ 12:30 pm
I think you missed the sarcasm in my post. I understand the doctine.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:47 pm#4
It is amazing to me that there are individuals in this country who still believe this is the party of God. There is not one compasionate person amongst them.
Comment by Jules — May 31, 2006 @ 10:51 am
I'd say that any individual who believes that the GOP is the party of God, doesn't know God. Christians tend to vote Republican because they will identify with the aspects of Conservatism, and of traditional values that seem to coincide with their Christian values. If a Republican politician starts doing and saying things that Chritians can no longer identify with, they'll abandon him/her. Christianity represents a huge voter base in this country, hence the Democrats are looking for ways to sound more spiritual, and to appear that they've embraced some religious values. They want to capitalize on the fact that many Christians have become disillusioned with their party of choice, and are pandering for votes.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:59 pmI can't believe Antagonist just posted something coherent.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:01 pm#49 - Cognitive dissonance...dizzy...feel a little sick...
May 31st, 2006 at 1:09 pm#23 Zimzone
I think it's not as much ADHD as it is the addict, codependent personality. These types always have to have a crisis to bring people together or get their emotional needs met. Always manufacturing or even unknowingly making a crisis. Have you ever noticed the really dysfunctional families are always having some type of crisis? That's how they live and wouldn't know what to do with themselves otherwise. The codependency is this behavior of getting external reinforcement, ie. not feeling good about yourself unless you think you are doing something for someone else's "good". Unfortunatly it's the level that an alarming number of people operate at, thus making it "normal".
May 31st, 2006 at 1:16 pm"Christians tend to vote Republican because they will identify with the aspects of Conservatism, and of traditional values that seem to coincide with their Christian values. Comment by Antagonist"
That's not true. You've confused extremist christians and radical rightwing ChristoTaliban freaks with 'Christians'. Overall american Christians split along party lines based on whether they're a whacko rightwinger or a sane human being - just like the rest of the country.
I suggest you review this Pew Research poll on the matter.
http://people-press.org/commentary/display.php3?AnalysisID=103
Many Christian and other religious groups favor Democrats and Liberals. It's just that the reichwingers are such loud whiney idiots you'd THINK they actually represented Christianity when all they really represent is stupid fools like yourself who are too ignorant to realize basic facts about their own country and their own religion.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:24 pm#43
I recently saw a picture of Lyndon Johnson with his head bowed and his face in his hands. It spoke volumes to me of those times. We will never see a picture like that of GWB, unless it’s grief for himself.
Comment by Zookeeper — May 31, 2006 @ 12:31 pm
You're right, we'll never see a picture of Bush like that. The media is bent on only showing him in the worst possible light, as is Thinkprogress.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:27 pmThe media is bent on only showing him in the worst possible light, as is Thinkprogress.
Comment by Antagonist — May 31, 2006 @ 1:27 pm
Oh come on... FAUX Entertainment is Bush's cheerleading brigade.
No one can post such a thing because it doesn't exist.
No one has to make Bush look bad - he does an excellent job all on his own.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:30 pm#32 - it came back to me the night Chimpy showed up on TV and yelled 'Are you ready for some football!?' into the camera. Same year the $300 checks were being sent out. One of these years, I'll read Gibbon.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:30 pm#53 - You’re right, we’ll never see a picture of Bush like that. The media is bent on only showing him in the worst possible light, as is Thinkprogress.
Comment by Antagonist
I amend my original comment of, "We will never see a picture like that of GWB, unless it’s grief for himself," to There will never be a picture like that taken of GWB, because he is incapable of grief, unless it is for himself.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:44 pmThat figure of 71 journalists seems low - or is it 71 "foreign journalists?"
My guess is that more journalists have been killed there.
I am a veteran correspondent of six wars, and I deeply resent it when local journalists are not fully counted among the casualty figures.
After all, they are the ones who do most of the real dangerous work.
May 31st, 2006 at 2:14 pm#57 I guess you can find accurate data in the web of Reporters Without Borders:
http://www.rsf.org/
May 31st, 2006 at 2:33 pm#57 I've found that at least 86 reporters died from the begin of the war until the March 20th, 2006. And a quote: This is more than the number killed during 20 years of war in Vietnam or the civil war in Algeria.
May 31st, 2006 at 2:36 pm#56
I amend my original comment of, “We will never see a picture like that of GWB, unless it’s grief for himself,†to There will never be a picture like that taken of GWB, because he is incapable of grief, unless it is for himself.
Comment by Zookeeper — May 31, 2006 @ 1:44 pm
That we may never know.
May 31st, 2006 at 2:59 pm"Whiny and soft?" Let's see his silly ass GO AND LIVE in Iraq without the benefit of the Secret Service!
Bravest words come from the safest places.
What a hatefull, sorry excuse for a human.
May 31st, 2006 at 4:25 pmhere's a story that shows what a virtual liar/plagarist Zinsmeister has been in the past.
http://editorandpublisher.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=UPDATE:%20Paper%20May%20Take%20Legal%20Action%20Against%20Bush%20Aide&expire=&urlID=18418645&fb=Y&url=http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002610767&partnerID=60
May 31st, 2006 at 4:48 pmWHY DO REPUBLICANS HATE HUMANS?WHAT would Jesus think?
May 31st, 2006 at 9:19 pmEr, well Proudleftist, now that you mention it, I'm not really allowed to think much. As Dad says, "If I need your opinion, I'll give it to you". As for the Republicans, I think I have a pretty good idea what they really think of me. Being omnipresent, I got a chance to see how they would, er, I believe the term is 'Swift boat' me if I ran, for example. Not pretty really - then when I remembered I was under 35 and not born in the US, I sort of lost interest. Anyhow mush dash, best of luck for the Rapture and all that.
May 31st, 2006 at 10:35 pmChristians tend to vote Republican because they will identify with the aspects of Conservatism, and of traditional values that seem to coincide with their Christian values.
Comment by Antagonist #48
hmmm, let's see Antichrist,
...values like:
1) Love ONLY thy brother/sister who LOOKS and ACTS like thyself...
2) Thou shalt invade countries (that have done you no harm), and commit mass murder of innocent men, women and children...in the name of profiteering, "security", and REVENGE...
3) Stealing from the poor and middle class to give to the rich is fine...as long as one can use it as campaign propaganda and tout it as making the economy "robust"...
4) taking advantage of the dire economic straits people/governments in third world/under-developed countries find themselves in...to horde their natural resources(for profit, and self-aggrandizement) is perfectly acceptable...
5) Hypocrisy is in the eye of the beholder insofar as- adherence to international law-vs- American rendition/torture, Affirmative Actions-vs- legacy/political connections, adminstration of justice (two-tiered system), tax relief-vs-welfare...
6) Don't abort 'em- but- don't support 'em...
Yeah Antichrist, I'd say you right wing conservative Republiscum and anti-Christians have got SOME value system...
June 1st, 2006 at 10:12 amI can't believe that anyone would try to defend this criminal administration again and again after lie upon lie upon lie upon...well, you get the picture. Every time they get caught doing something horrible they are not upset or embarrassed because they committed such a horrible act, they are only upset and embarrassed because they got caught and it was reported. Too many people speaking out against their crimes? They pass anti-whistle-blower legislation to stop people from finding out about their crimes. They willfully ignore every warning that there is going to be an attack on America and then say it was the last guy's fault...they get into a situation where they invaded a country illegally causing our troops to get caught in the middle of a civil war and they say it's the next guys problem. What happened to restoring integrity to the White House? What happened to the CEO administration? Who would have thought the administration was going to model itself after Enron?
If you support the so called Republican values (2 things) there is no way you can say you support the troops and there is no way you can claim to be patriotic. If you support the Republican agenda you are Anti-America, Anti-Soldier and Anti-Christ, you are morally bankrupt and you would have a better chance of getting your dumb ass through the eye of a needle then sitting next to Christ in the afterlife. I'm not religious but I couldn't resist the reference. But I have to say, I hope you religious nuts are right, I hope all that you believe comes true, not that I hope my soul is saved but just to know that yours wouldn't be. Because you will find it is impossible to be an Anti-Abortion, anti-science pro-death penalty, pro-war Christian and if you have to meet up to your makers standard you will never get into heaven and that tickles me to no end. (But I have a very dark sense of humor).
I also have very little faith that the people of America will wake up and do anything, most people don't even have enough interest in their country to find out what is going on or their too scared to want to believe it. but I hope we all meet in the street soon!
June 1st, 2006 at 6:28 pmI wonder are that the article today is always actual ?
October 1st, 2006 at 1:41 pmSorry I didn’t post it sooner. I’m home sick with a flu bug (and I have to go to my kid’s baccalaureate tonight, too.
November 1st, 2006 at 8:37 pmLike someone befor said: Be careful what you wish.
November 12th, 2006 at 8:55 am