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ThinkFast: May 31, 2006

By Think Progress on May 31st, 2006 at 9:12 am

ThinkFast: May 31, 2006


Out of the loop: White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said yesterday that President Bush learned of the reported Haditha massacre after the press did. Bush found out “[w]hen a Time reporter first made the call,” said Snow. Time reported the events in March, nearly four months after they took place.

“Climate researchers at Purdue University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology separately reported new evidence yesterday supporting the idea that global warming is causing stronger hurricanes.”

City and state officials in hurricane-prone areas are pushing a “save-yourselves approach… after government agencies were overwhelmed by pleas for help after last year’s storms.” Officials say that “only the elderly, the poor and the disabled should count on the government to help them escape a hurricane or endure its immediate aftermath.”

“The South Dakota Campaign for Healthy Families announced Tuesday that it had secured more than twice the number of signatures it needed to refer the abortion ban passed by the 2006 Legislature to a vote of the people this fall.” The group gathered 37,846 signatures – “more than double the 16,728 they needed to get.”

The Pentagon’s latest quarterly status report on Iraq, published yesterday, “shows an increase in the overall average number of attacks, from fewer than 500 per week last year to more than 600 per week in the most recent quarter.” “On average, nearly 80 Iraqis were killed or wounded every day…up from the previous quarter’s 60 per day.”

Afghanistan’s parliament approved a nonbinding motion calling for the government to prosecute U.S. soldiers responsible for a deadly road crash that sparked the worst riots in Kabul in years. USA Today writes, “The riots revealed a disturbing truth: At a time when the United States has enough trouble in Iraq, Afghanistan is increasingly beginning to resemble that war.”

The United States is “ready to meet with Iran and other nations for talks on Tehran’s nuclear ambitions if the Islamic republic gives up uranium enrichment.” Diplomats, however, said Washington would only join talks if Russia and China agreed to back U.N. sanctions against Iran “if it remains defiant.”

The FDA official who revealed that Merck’s Vioxx medication “caused 140,000 heart attacks and strokes testified that co-workers at his agency tried to damage his reputation.”

Rep. Bob Ney’s (R-OH) former chief of staff, Neil Volz, testified yesterday that “Ney was a champion on Capitol Hill for Jack Abramoff and his clients before the lobbyist was disgraced.” Volz admitted to conspiring with Ney to underreport the cost of a 2002 golfing trip to Scotland.

And finally: Another pork-filled bill? In Taiwan’s parliament yesterday, “deputies attacked a woman colleague for snatching and trying to eat a proposal on opening direct transport links with China in a bid to stop a vote on the issue.” The woman “later spat out the document and tore it up after opposition lawmakers failed to get her to cough it up by pulling her hair.”

What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.



104 Responses to “ThinkFast: May 31, 2006”

  1. squegeeboo says:

    “City and state officials in hurricane-prone areas are pushing a “save-yourselves approach… ”

    Otherwise known as self-reliance.


  2. Punchy says:

    “On average, nearly 80 Iraqis were killed or wounded every day…up from the previous quarter’s 60 per day.”

    That, my friends, is a civil war. 80 dead a day? ~600 a week? Civil war. Brought to you by Bush and Co., fine makers of strife, hardship, torture, and killings.


  3. Jesus says:

    Fire Democrats who don’t push safe sex as the means of ending abortion.


  4. Jesus says:

    Abortion has to become a left issue. It has to be taken away from the Republicans.


  5. Subway Serenade says:

    I’m still wondering how people in this country still believe there will be an election this year. Bush has declared himslef above the law,and a free and fair election would bring his shenanaghans to an abrupt halt. Look for a lame excuse for declaring Martial Law. We need a Plan B.

    50 Ways To Dump The Dubya


  6. Jesus says:

    ANVILHEAD,
    I bet you get all the girls. You’re sound so hot! Swing that big d*ck, cowboy!


  7. trueblue says:

    Well, Jesus, I guess you can’t save ‘em all!


  8. G.W.SuperChrist says:

    #7 Jesus – I think ANVILHEAD is so angry because of his ultra small penis… the only big dick he swings is that of his boyfriend.


  9. Briseadh na Faire says:

    The FDA official who revealed that Merck’s Vioxx medication “caused 140,000 heart attacks and strokes testified that co-workers at his agency tried to damage his reputation.”

    See: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/05pdf/04-473.pdf

    Held: When public employees make statements pursuant to their official duties, they are not speaking as citizens for First Amendment purposes, and the Constitution does not insulate their communications from employer discipline.

    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH


  10. fnordboy says:

    Pentagon says 600 IED events per week in Iraq. That’s a hell of a lot of explosives – WHERE DO YOU THINK THE EXPLOSIVES ARE COMING FROM?


  11. Curlew says:

    When will it sink in with the Conservative-based media that 80 dead Iraqi’s a day x 7 days =560 dead Iraqi’s a week might just look a little bit like a Civil War? I guess not until Faux News gets the go ahead from Rupe Murdoch to start spewing the truth, maybe?


  12. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid says:

    ANVILHEAD was later seen pulling his head out of his a$$, but then put it right back in because he can’t stand the look of the real world. Nothing like a foreign policy based on the teachings of the Dukes of Hazzard.


  13. bobcat_grad says:

    Out of the loop: White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said yesterday that President Bush learned of the reported Haditha massacre after the press did. Bush found out “[w]hen a Time reporter first made the call,” said Snow. Time reported the events in March, nearly four months after they took place.

    Of course he didn’t know. That would be ‘bad news.’ ‘Bad news’ is not allowed at the White House. Only two types are allowed:

    a) Good News: Which there isn’t much of.
    b) Made Up News: Which there is plenty floating around.


  14. Ron says:

    Time to spend ten trillion dollars to rebuild Iraq, and then bomb it again. Then, rebuild it again, then bomb it again.

    It doesn’t matter, the oil will still be there. War is the name of the game. Call it an earth friendly recycling program since it won’t really affect the oil.

    It’ll be like an internal combustion engine: intake, combustion, power, and exhaust.

    Why do the people in South Dakota hate abortion so much?


  15. Godfry Daniel says:

    “Out of the loop: White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said yesterday that President Bush learned of the reported Haditha massacre after the press did.”

    I’m sure the brass just didn’t want to trouble poor George with such insignificant matters. After all, he had so many fund-raisers to attend.


  16. Briseadh na Faire says:

    Officials say that “only the elderly, the poor and the disabled should count on the government to help them escape a hurricane or endure its immediate aftermath.”

    Weren’t these the very same groups left to die in Katrina? Were there not armed people keeping the poor from crossing a bridge to dry ground?

    I know squeegeboo you blame the poor for their circumstances, but do you also blame the elderly and the disabled?

    Something to think about:

    35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

    37″Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

    40″The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’

    41″Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

    44″They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

    45″He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

    Progressives/liberals, who espouse separation of church and state also feel that the above functions should be performed by the government. Conservatives/evangelicals, who believe in a government based on Christian values feel that the above functions SHOULD NOT be performed by government, instead left to the charity of individuals.


  17. Subway Serenade says:

    4. That’s a very humble Christian sentiment. Enjoy your rapture.

    Goper’s Lament (Hard To Be A Republican


  18. dlet says:

    The Pentagon’s latest quarterly status report on Iraq, published yesterday, “shows an increase in the overall average number of attacks, from fewer than 500 per week last year to more than 600 per week in the most recent quarter.” “On average, nearly 80 Iraqis were killed or wounded every day…up from the previous quarter’s 60 per day.”

    Note to Bush: Just because these numbers are going up does not mean that they show an improvement.


  19. Curlew says:

    $19. Remember, the Shrub “graduated” from B School….he’ll no doubt see rising numbers as an improvement. Unless Uncle Dick and Reichsmarshall von Rove tell him differently.


  20. squegeeboo says:

    Briseadh
    “I know squeegeboo you blame the poor for their circumstances, but do you also blame the elderly and the disabled?”
    Elderly? Sure do, they should have planned better for their future when they were younger, and raised their kids with the necissary values to help them out. Disabled? depends, physically disabled, yup. Mentally disabled? Nope, can’t expect someone with the brain power of a 5 year old to be responsible for their circumstances, but where are their family members?

    “Progressives/liberals, who espouse separation of church and state also feel that the above functions should be performed by the government. Conservatives/evangelicals, who believe in a government based on Christian values feel that the above functions SHOULD NOT be performed by government, instead left to the charity of individuals.”
    Your point being?


  21. drtomaso says:

    #19 – They probably showed him a chart on its side. Thats what happened to him at every business he ever ran.


  22. unbelievable says:

    South Dakota is a very red, conservative state…. So much for those who argue that it’s we liberals having all the abortions…


  23. Anne says:

    “The South Dakota Campaign for Healthy Families announced Tuesday that it had secured more than twice the number of signatures it needed to refer the abortion ban passed by the 2006 Legislature to a vote of the people this fall.”

    This is a huge victory for Democrats— and the results of the vote in November will be as important as any election in the country. We cannot allow a group of right-wingers to impose their radical beliefs on the rest of us. The SD Campaign for Healthy Family’s ability to collect nearly 38,000 signatures underscores that this ban does not reflect the beliefs of most South Dakotans. This is a critical fight– the SD Campaign for Healthy Families has had huge success, but the fight is far from over –please visit http://www.sdhealthyfamilies.org


  24. cynicalgirl says:

    #11 fnordboy, those explosives were looted from various munitions dumps that the Army failed to guard after “mission accomplished”. In the al qaa qaa facility alone, there was over 500 tons that were stolen by the insurgency.


  25. unbelievable says:

    SpongeBob has not one sympathetic bone in his body… well, until he stubs his toe – then everyone should say “poor baby’. It’ll change when he some day learns the meaning of ‘help me please’. Odds are good that he will. Until then, he is balanced out by those who already do.


  26. unbelievable says:

    there was over 500 tons that were stolen by the insurgency.
    Comment by cynicalgirl — May 31, 2006 @ 10:04 am

    I guess after giving and selling them to these folks for so long, our government forgot to put the lid back on the cookie jar.

    Talk about chickens coming home to roost…


  27. Skeptic says:

    Squegeeboo;
    I very much hope you are being sarcastic. What happens to the elderly whose children or grandchildren happen to be in the Gulf with the national guard?
    If individual charity does not cover feeding the hungry or clothing the poor should these people go hungry or naked?


  28. dlet says:

    #26
    Simply put that type of person is an egoist. Not a very popular personality trait especially when trying to interact in a social setting.


  29. Retired Republican Soldier says:

    By all means let’s have an actual VOTE by the people on the abortion issue.


  30. drtomaso says:

    #21- Those folks who drowned in their own beds in a nursing home did everything right. You can’t honestly claim they could have better prepared for their future. The failure was on the part of the healthy, young, people paid to ensure their safety, who failed to do so.

    Make no mistake about who the poor in this country are. Unless you are independently wealthy, every single one of you is one auto accident or one lump of cancerous cells away from sheer poverty.


  31. Rosencrantz says:

    It’s amazing how Bush always seems to be hte last to know WTF is going on with his own people. How can he be keeping the country safe when he is always out of the loop like this?

    Oh well, My guess is that it is just another case of an overzealous staffer. I’m sure no upper-level people had anything to do with this or knew anything was going on.

    *cough*


  32. Rebel With A Cause says:

    Out of the loop?

    Of course the idiot prez is out of the loop. He only knows what Rove and Bolten tell him. His eyes are too glazed over from alcohol and drugs he cant watch the news on television, and he cant read.

    They keep him in a rush of televised talks about the country and the only way he knows where he is is because they write it down for him.

    We are talking about an idiot here folks, a certified, true blue idiot that has no idea what is going on around him.


  33. Ron says:

    It’s been nice living on the Mississippi Delta, along the Gulf Coast, and on over to Florida for the past 300 years, but all good things must come to an end.

    Time to move on; laying around and playing around down there when the wind blows at 150 mph isn’t much of a good time.

    Move on up to Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana, etc. Escape the hurricanes and start having more fun.

    Maybe down to Patagonia. Who knows? You’re on your own. Don’t expect the Pharisees that run the US government to help you, they’re too busy interpreting the laws.


  34. unbelievable says:

    Simply put that type of person is an egoist. Not a very popular personality trait especially when trying to interact in a social setting.
    Comment by dlet — May 31, 2006 @ 10:10 am

    Yeah, certain people tend to forget that we are social beings… until they are the only ones left in the room… : )

    I think Squeegie is a good kid – just hasn’t gotten a good dose of reality yet. For his sake, he should hope that it happens sooner rather than later. Will make the rest of life much less contentious in the long run… People understand at his age – but not so much so when you’re in your 40’s, 50’s and so on (see any resident troll for a prime example :).


  35. unbelievable says:

    By all means let’s have an actual VOTE by the people on the abortion issue.
    Comment by Retired Republican Soldier — May 31, 2006 @ 10:10 am

    I assure you, when people close that curtain on the voting booth and are left all on their own vices – they sometimes act very differently than when all the fanatical holier-than-thous are watching….

    Banning abortion does not stop it. Go read up. There’s a history there to prove that you cannot stop people from having sex and having abortions. And in fact, the more you make it ‘forbidden’, the more you ensure people will want it.


  36. unbelievable says:

    Time to move on;
    Comment by Ron — May 31, 2006 @ 10:22 am

    Don’t be ridiculous. If people can’t afford flood insurance or to evacuate a city during a hurricane, what makes you think they can afford to move? Especially when no one is buying what they have to sell…


  37. Xbot says:

    So wait, a group that opposes abortion except on select circumstances wants that law repealed? Why not have it changed to their liking? Sounds fishy to me.


  38. squegeeboo says:

    unbelievable
    “well, until he stubs his toe – then everyone should say “poor baby’.”

    When have I ever asked for anyones pity?(except when it comes to my spelling/grammer)

    “I think Squeegie is a good kid ”
    Still have you fooled do I? But thanks :)

    dlet
    “Simply put that type of person is an egoist.”
    Nope, I just have no problem being blunt and stating my beliefs with out hedging them in language/terms to not offend.


  39. Rebel With A Cause says:

    This should help you all understand what Bush, single handedly, has done to the American economy, and the amurkan people.

    in the last five years total debt has increased to 12.7 trillion. Rise in income has increased 2.1 trillion. For every dollar added to income, 6 dollars had been added to debt.


  40. dlet says:

    #36
    Totally agree. If the legislators of South Dakota really thought that the law they passed would halt all abortions within the state borders they are fools. They just pushed it underground and put the health of women at risk. Granted abortion is not a pretty subject but having a realistic outlook at the discussion table is what is needed not political pandering. Reality is where we all are….well most of us.


  41. unbelievable says:

    When have I ever asked for anyones pity?(except when it comes to my spelling/grammer)

    You answered your own question. But, you know, there’s nothing wrong with saying “I need help”. You act liek it is some horrible thing. I will agree that there are those who milk the system. But there are always those kind and you can’t deny the many in true need for teh few who will take advantage.

    Still have you fooled do I? But thanks :)

    I’m hard o you sometimes. Just wanted you to know that it’s nothing personal. With the exception of Mighty Mouth who I greatly dislike, and Denny who I am growing to dislike (though he told me to ‘leave him alone’ yesterday… funny, huh? after I had enough and whacked him), I think most people are truly doing the best they can.

    Nope, I just have no problem being blunt and stating my beliefs with out hedging them in language/terms to not offend.
    Comment by squegeeboo — May 31, 2006 @ 10:36 am

    Sugar coating is not my specialty either. Probably why I cut you slack on occasion : )


  42. unbelievable says:

    Reality is where we all are….well most of us.
    Comment by dlet — May 31, 2006 @ 10:38 am

    I grew up in a conservative area within the Bible Belt. A good number of the girls I graduated high school with had had more than one abortion. You’reright – it’s about reality. And the reality is that people will have sex. And the other reality is that they don’y always want a baby. It’s the overly-religious nuts who bring their unrealistic morality into it and say ‘well, then don’t be human’. Yet, when it comes to people disagreeing with their church doctrine – I saw some statistics that most people say that they are Pro-choice.


  43. Jules says:

    Have you ever noticed that the majority of anti-choice people are men?


  44. G.W.SuperChrist says:

    President Bush learned of the reported Haditha massacre after the press did.

    Bullshit!!!

    Bush knew… but if he admits that he knew before the Time story broke then he implicates himself in the cover up.

    It is in his best interest to look out of touch rather than criminally complicit.


  45. TerrytheTurtle says:

    #4, whoah, one Chuck Norris film too many can really mess you up, can’t it?


  46. unbelievable says:

    Have you ever noticed that the majority of anti-choice people are men?
    Comment by Jules — May 31, 2006 @ 10:53 am

    Would be interesting to know by how much… I bet it’s pretty disproportionate. And I bet it would change significantly if men could get pregnant…


  47. squegeeboo says:

    “whoah, one Chuck Norris film too many can really mess you up, can’t it?”

    There is no such thing as one to many Chuck Norris films, it’s always one to few.


  48. Jules says:

    My mom used to say that if men could get pregnant abortion would be in the constitution.


  49. unbelievable says:

    It is in his best interest to look out of touch rather than criminally complicit.
    Comment by G.W.SuperChrist — May 31, 2006 @ 10:56 am

    I agree. I think he’s lying – again.


  50. Jules says:

    It is in his best interest to look out of touch rather than criminally complicit.
    Comment by G.W.SuperChrist — May 31, 2006 @ 10:56 am

    I agree. I think he’s lying – again.

    Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2006 @ 11:21 am

    It is so difficult to tell. He is a dumbass, but he also lies about everything.


  51. unbelievable says:

    My mom used to say that if men could get pregnant abortion would be in the constitution.
    Comment by Jules — May 31, 2006 @ 11:19 am

    Your mom sounds like my mom – except that mine used to say that there would be stronger drugs… :)


  52. Mark says:

    #1 self reliance is preached by the republican party as if it is their own idea when in fact everyone pushes self reliance. However republicans push it as an every man for himself strategy, except of course in Iraq where those poor people need our help.


  53. Massachusetts Liberal says:

    Briseadh — Good point! (#17) The truth is, you can’t count on this impostor government for anything.

    Why do you bother quoting the Bible to these pseudo-Christians? You think they’re going to think, “Oh! The Bible says I’m wrong to feel this way! If I had only known. Sorry, Jesus!”


  54. unbelievable says:

    It is so difficult to tell. He is a dumbass, but he also lies about everything.
    Comment by Jules — May 31, 2006 @ 11:22 am

    I think he lies because he’s a dumbass… Something I realized after an encounter with a resident troll recently. They are either incapable of understanding the facts, or are too lazy to go look them up. It must be easier to snort a lot of cocaine, drive drunk, and them pull opinions ouit of your ass, apparently – than to educate yourself. You as an attorney know that facts win. So, the ignorant have to start to lie to seem credible.


  55. Jules says:

    except of course in Iraq where those poor people need our help.

    Comment by Mark — May 31, 2006 @ 11:24 am

    And also Halliburton who desperately needs all of our money, and wealthy people who sorely need those tax cuts so that they can buy another yacht!


  56. For Truth says:

    I spoke for Anvilhead yesterday about the massacre, he’s late. (It was sarcstic of course).


  57. Massachusetts Liberal says:

    Diplomats, however, said Washington would only join talks if Russia and China agreed to back U.N. sanctions against Iran “if it remains defiant.”

    What if Russia & China agree to back the U.N. sanctions? Then it’ll be: “Diplomats, however, said Washington would only join talks if Iran abolished its government and became a client state of the U.S.”


  58. TerrytheTurtle says:

    #1 Squeegieboo – is that what Chimpy meant? The ‘(your-on-your-)ownership society’?


  59. Jules says:

    You as an attorney know that facts win. So, the ignorant have to start to lie to seem credible.

    Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2006 @ 11:29 am

    There is a “thought” in the law that goes something like, “When the law is on your side, argue the law. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When neither is on your side, speak very loudly.”

    This is what these trolls, and the republican party, do. They yell louder than anyone else drowning out the voices of reason.


  60. Zookeeper says:

    #44 – Have you ever noticed that the majority of anti-choice people are men?
    Comment by Jules

    We are not to be trusted with something so important as a viable uterus.


  61. Zookeeper says:

    City and state officials in hurricane-prone areas are pushing a “save-yourselves approach…

    When government is telling you this, it means everyone is on their own, even the elderly, poor and disabled. This is the heads-up, folks. Just look at what happened to the people when the government “tried” to help.


  62. Zimzone says:

    Mushroom Conservative: kept in the dark and fed manure

    “The moral test of government is how it treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the aged; and those who are in the shadow of life; the sick, the needy, and the handicapped”.
    Hubert H. Humphrey
    Squeegeblow, eaten any mushrooms lately?
    How do they taste?
    Oh wait, wingnuts don’t have any taste!


  63. big papa says:

    However republicans push it as an every man for himself strategy, except of course in Iraq where those poor people need our help.

    Comment by Mark #53

    Mark,

    You forgot the corporate boardrooms…

    …when they need bailing out (airlines, Chrysler, Amtrak et al), or unconscienable “tax breaks”…

    …or the farms that need subsidizing…

    …or the sparsely populated red states that need to have prisons built in their communities…

    …in order to have jobs and steal congressional representation by inflating their census using their captive “slaves”…

    …Republiscum are hypocrites, racists and shit-for-brains scum…

    …they should ALL be exiled or executed (or both)…


  64. Mash says:

    Haditha is the tip of the iceberg. I wonder how the hearts and minds thing is going.


  65. unbelievable says:

    They yell louder than anyone else drowning out the voices of reason.
    Comment by Jules — May 31, 2006 @ 11:43 am

    How true… (and funny :) There was someone yesterday who was spouting nonsense – calling everyone illegal aliens, including me. Of course I pointed out the flaw in his accusations, and he started yelling and tossing around ad hominem attacks. Eventually, he says “I’ll debate you anytime, any place.” Sure. That’s why he was yelling and insulting all afternoon instead of debating. Had no facts… Never seems to stop them from making specticles out of themselves and then calling us names for it. I’ve been wondering why it works so well for them… After all 60 million people did seem to vote for Chimp in 2004.

    By the way, did you find a book for your trip?


  66. Ron says:

    The US government is unofficially a prolapsed uterus. Useless and in the way.

    America will move forward without the US government.


  67. Zookeeper says:

    Out of the loop…

    I’m pretty sure they don’t tell Georgie the sun is up until it’s absolutely necessary, or if a reporter happens to notice.


  68. Mark says:

    #66 it works so well for them because entertainment like the WWF is huge in this country. People seems to like black and white issues that do nto require thinking. Republicans can frame anything in terms of black and white with sharp lines drawn in the sand. Dems try to explain things. People don’t want explanations. Also like the WWFF our country seems to like the macho thing tremendously and the repuplicans are masters at framing things in terms of macho vs wuss. Of course like the WWF when hulk hogan goes bad their heads explode.


  69. Zookeeper says:

    In Taiwan’s parliament yesterday, “deputies attacked a woman colleague for snatching and trying to eat a proposal on opening direct transport links with China in a bid to stop a vote on the issue.” The woman “later spat out the document and tore it up after opposition lawmakers failed to get her to cough it up by pulling her hair.”

    I would pay a large portion of my life savings to see this on the floor of the Senate — just once.


  70. ann says:

    By all means let’s have an actual VOTE by the people on the abortion issue.
    Comment by Retired Republican Soldier — May 31, 2006 @ 10:10 am

    Can we have an actual VOTE by the people on the Iraq War as well?


  71. jeff says:

    I think that Murtha could make a major statement by going to the white house and throwing his medals over the fence like Kerry did. The press would eat it up!


  72. Jules says:

    By the way, did you find a book for your trip?

    Comment by unbelievable — May 31, 2006 @ 12:10 pm

    We found a website – I think it is the same name as the book title you gave me…I cannot remember right now.

    We have decided to see the Blue Rdige Mountains and…get this….we may go to Dollywood!!! Is that not a hoot?

    We are both so excited. I cannot wait until Friday!!!


  73. big papa says:

    We have decided to see the Blue Rdige Mountains and…get this….we may go to Dollywood!!! Is that not a hoot?

    We are both so excited. I cannot wait until Friday!!!

    Comment by Jules 373

    Jules,

    …vacationing in a red state…

    …eeewwwww yuck!!!!!


  74. unbelievable says:

    Of course like the WWF when hulk hogan goes bad their heads explode.
    Comment by Mark — May 31, 2006 @ 12:18 pm

    You know in 1984 when they used people’s fears to break them. I wonder if in this current Big Brother Regime, they aren’t doing exactly that… Wacthing 8 hours of television a day – or whatever it is up to – is scary…


  75. unbelievable says:

    We have decided to see the Blue Rdige Mountains and…get this….we may go to Dollywood!!! Is that not a hoot?
    Comment by Jules — May 31, 2006 @ 12:33 pm

    Dollywood would most certainly qualify as an American oddity : ). I haven’t been there since it was Silver Dollar City (or something like that) when I was 15. But it actually had roller coasters and was a lot of fun, even with my best friend’s strict parents and younger sisters :). I can only imagine that it’s been improved in the 20 years since…

    I’m sure you’ll have a great time! You’ll have to let us know how it goes.


  76. Spudge_Boy says:

    We have decided to see the Blue Rdige Mountains and…get this….we may go to Dollywood!!! Is that not a hoot?

    If it’s Dollywood, wouldn’t that be “hooters”

    Sorry, I had to.


  77. Jules says:

    Jules,

    …vacationing in a red state…

    …eeewwwww yuck!!!!!

    Comment by big papa — May 31, 2006 @ 12:40 pm

    Not to worry….just passing through to Boston!!


  78. Krazny says:

    Zookeeper,

    it has always been my opinion that congress should have a 4 drink minimum. At least it would be entertaining.


  79. Parrotlover77 says:

    I find Squeeg’s comment on #1 amusing. What’s next? If your house is burning down, you better crank up the garden hose real quick-like? After all, the fire was probably your fault anyway because you left the stove on or something. Why the heck should the tax payers have to pay to keep up those fire stations and fire rescue workers?

    Yea.

    Uh huh.

    I guess some of us just have a little more compassion than others.


  80. Zookeeper says:

    Krazny, their tolerance is probably built up, better make it a 6 drink minimum. I’d watch C-Span every afternoon…


  81. Zookeeper says:

    #80 – Parrotlover77, Squeegy just likes playing us.


  82. squegeeboo says:

    “If your house is burning down, you better crank up the garden hose real quick-like? After all, the fire was probably your fault anyway because you left the stove on or something. Why the heck should the tax payers have to pay to keep up those fire stations and fire rescue workers?”

    I support what some areas of the nation do for things like that, paying for fire protection for your house is optional, so if it burns down and you pay your yearly dues they help, if you don’t pay your dues, they watch it burn down and make sure it dosn’t spread to neighbors that do opt in to the coverage.


  83. Zookeeper says:

    #83 – Squeegy, I hope you pay your dues on time. Wouldn’t want to lose all those Star Wars action figures, D & D books, Star Trek costumes, Simpsons T-shirts, etc. ;)


  84. Skeptic says:

    Squegeeboo;
    Can you give a reference for #83? I heard of this practice as a very early ( 17th and 18th century ) practice in historical america when fire departments would only put out fires in buildings that were owned by their supporters. This ended in modern times with municipal fire departments. I didn’t know that any region still followed this custom. Thanks for the information.


  85. Skeptic says:

    Sorry I meant 1700’s and 1800’s America, particularly New York City.


  86. Krazny says:

    #

    I support what some areas of the nation do for things like that, paying for fire protection for your house is optional, so if it burns down and you pay your yearly dues they help, if you don’t pay your dues, they watch it burn down and make sure it dosn’t spread to neighbors that do opt in to the coverage.

    Comment by squegeeboo — May 31, 2006 @ 2:39 pm

    When organized crime (aka the mob) did this, it was called exhtortion, and racketeering.


  87. unbelievable says:

    I’m with Krazny on that… Because how do you make sure that the ‘dues’ are affordable?

    Besides, since you’re into the finacial aspects SpongeBob, it’s a cheaper system if everyone participates – you know – group discount…


  88. Ken Daves says:

    Someone needs to do a comparative study of Andrew and Katrina. Andrew was destructive as hell. I drove through it less than two weeks after it occurred and then again a few months later. The progress was undeniable.

    There was clearly a coordinated and definite response from state and federal employees. Clearly resources were made available to those stricken in southern Florida.

    Katrina occurred IN a major city. (I still think the government took a 9/11 approach and either let the levees break or caused them to.)

    What I see on TV and what I read is total chaos in southern Louisianna. There must be a reason for this.

    No matter what, bush administration is to blame.


  89. barfly says:

    I support what some areas of the nation do for things like that, paying for fire protection for your house is optional, so if it burns down and you pay your yearly dues they help, if you don’t pay your dues, they watch it burn down and make sure it dosn’t spread to neighbors that do opt in to the coverage.

    Comment by squegeeboo —

    So Squeege now thinks municipalities should be run like protection rackets. “Gee, I’d HATE to see anything happen to your store, maybe you should just sign this policy…” Why does this thuggish outlook not surprise me? Typical republican values.


  90. Zookeeper says:

    The only thing I can imagine Squeegy is referring to is Volunteer Fire Depts asking for support money every year, or a subscription ambulance service like we had when I lived in Louisiana. Otherwise, I think it’s pure Squeegy bullshit.


  91. Clif says:

    I am a bit late but where I grew up in upstate NY we had a volunteer fire department which collected “dues” from every protected household..something like $10-15 a year. You were not required to pay but if you didn’t then if the fire department had to show up and put out a fire on your property they charged around $250-500, which was not optional then…in central KY where I live now we pay either a $20 member fee, each year or a $500 fee if we did not pay the $20 and the fire department is called to your house…

    The first fee is like an insurance policy..the second fee is like you didn’t buy the insurance policy


  92. Skeptic says:

    Clif;
    In both of your examples, the fire departments will put out all fires instead of just laughing at an unsubscribed building. Much more conducive to the public good. The subscription part of the fire department must be hard on renters and landlords, unless it is clearly written out which one is responsible for fire department contributions.


  93. Clif says:

    Both the renters for their belongings and landlords for their buildings…but 20 dollars is not much in todays world and fire fighting equipment is costly….the fire always will be put out and lives risked to save innocent people…the subscription just helps spread the financial burdern to all.


  94. Cyra Brown says:

    #70- With all of the toupee-sporting individuals in the Senate, I think some ‘hair-pulling’ would prove to be very… revealing. And very,very, VERY funny. Oh my my, oh HELL yes!!



  95. Joe says:

    I must commend CEI for the sides they choose to champion on these tough topics. Or is that condemn? I mean its not easy to defend a position with no facts to back you up. They must really want to bring the discussion on these subjects to the public eye. Well done I say.


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