Bolton: ‘This is Put Up or Shut Up Time For Iran,’ Unilateral Military Action Is ‘On The Table’
Bolton: ‘This is Put Up or Shut Up Time For Iran,’ Unilateral Military Action Is ‘On The Table’
Yesterday on Fox’s Your World with Neil Cuvuto, U.N. Ambassador John Bolton explicitly said that unilateral military action against Iran was “on the table.” Bolton diplomatically added, “This is put up or shut up time for Iran.” Watch it:
Transcript:
BOLTON: And I think when the President says it’s unacceptable, I think what he means by that is that it’s unacceptable. So it’s important…
CAVUTO: But unacceptable means that if it keeps going on you’re going to do something about it…
BOLTON: That no option is taken off the table. And Secretary…
CAVUTO: Military as well?
BOLTON: Exactly. Secretary Rice…
CAVUTO: Unilateral military action?
BOLTON: Secretary Rice made that point again today. But that’s why I think…
CAVUTO: That we would, I’m sorry Ambassador, that we would act alone if we had to?
BOLTON: That’s why he says no option is taken off the table. But it’s also why he has, the President, has reached out President Putin and other leaders in the past couple of days to say, “We’re making a significant step here,†that will be criticized by many of the president’s staunchest supporters here at home. But he’s taking this step to show strength and American leadership and to say he’s willing to do something that may be unpopular even with some of his supporters, to remove all excuses from Iran and its supporters to say, “We went the extra mile. We gave Iran really, this last chance to show that they are serious when they say they don’t want nuclear weapons.†This is put or shut up time for Iran.
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What military, and where is the money going to come from if the US initiates unilateral military action against Iran?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:24 pmThis has the uneasy feeling of being one of those glib comments that someone spouts and ends up regretting later…
“Bring it on.”
“Slam dunk.”
“Put up or shut up.”
June 1st, 2006 at 3:26 pmi normally try to be civil, but…
WHAT AN A**HOLE
June 1st, 2006 at 3:27 pmNot ground force - AIR FORCE! OMG- is this truly going to happen???
June 1st, 2006 at 3:27 pmOh yea, he’s a real Silver Tongued devil this one is.
A real diplomat.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:29 pmDear Foreign Policy Neophytes - Hopefully, Iran will be persuaded to preserve their country and population by the whorish French, Russians and Chinese. That said….The option should never be OFF the table - it’s called leverage.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:31 pmRed meat for Fox viewers, perhaps?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:32 pmThey are really gonna do this arent they….
They will kill their party for the next 30 years if they invade Iran….
that or kill us all!!!!!
thanks to the Recess Appointed moron we have at the UN for clearing everything up….
June 1st, 2006 at 3:33 pmthis is like ‘bring it on redux’, don’t ya think?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:33 pmActually I think Bolton was referring to the little Navy boats and planes he plays with in the bathtub. See, that lufa is really Iran, and here comes another air attack baby, watch out, oh… Lofa goes down again — that’s what I’m talking about, take that, I rule !!!
June 1st, 2006 at 3:36 pmi dont know if anyone has already noticed this, but aside from being nuts, John Bolton looks like Captain Crunch.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:36 pmMore shit and it isn’t even Friday……
June 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pmI recommend any US citizens looking to travel abroad to get the vacation in soon. If these lunatics bomb Iran, there will be no place safe to travel.
The economy will tank and China and Russia will supply Iran with weapons too…..
Heckuva job for the Warmonger Party.
-GSD
June 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pm#6 But why does the current administration always sound like that is the only piece on the chess table? Please expound on the diplomatic proposals.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pmoops..
don’t think for one minute that we as its citizens are notmere fodder for that “Interestâ€.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pm10 years away, if theyre actually building it, so yes, better bomb now just to make sure. that logic hasnt ever backfired.
…and i dont know if anyone has already noticed this, but aside from being nuts, John Bolton looks like Captain Crunch.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:38 pmWhat a ghastly excuse for a human being is Bolten. And he has the power to impact all of us with his juvenile, bombastic, and mean spirited posturing. Get him out. It is time for Americans to remove these thugs running our country into the ground. We must put people of real character, intelligence and vision in power and we have no time to lose. God I’m sick of these puny and cowardly excuses for men.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:39 pmI bet Bolton gets all the chicks.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:40 pmIt troubles me that one of our country’s chief diplomats has such a god-awful mustache. Mrs. Bolton, how do you let him leave the house in the morning looking like that?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:41 pmAnd remember, this guy wasn’t even approved for office by our representatives in the Senate. He was installed without any manner of democratic approval during Senate recess, and one could argue that his words are not those of the majority of the American people.
But then again, democracy and democratically approved actions mean very little to conservatives, so there’s no problem here for them.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:41 pmKiss up/Kick Down Bolton…
June 1st, 2006 at 3:42 pm“Put out or get out!” is Bolton’s Ace-in-the-Hole when smooth talkin’ the ladies.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:44 pmBrilliant! Oil will skyrocket to $200 a barrel, Exxon and Haliburton will be rich! Rich, I tell you. All hail the neo-fascists!
June 1st, 2006 at 3:44 pm“They will kill their party for the next 30 years if they invade Iran”
by lib4.
That’s right, but some GOP voters and office holder are just starting to wake up to the fact that these guys are no more about party than they are about promoting Christianity, or bagging gays, or what ever. They are all about themselves, and some whack vision of ruling the world, and they are most certainly about enriching themselves every chance they get. Talk about the “Me” generation. They may break off a bread crumb here and there by at least putting something like Gay marriage on the ballot, but when it comes to shaping laws and supreme court rulings, it’s about manipulating tax laws so they get to keep what they’ve stolen, it’s about promoting corporations over individuals, it’s about shilding their crimes from public knowledge. The only difference I see between GOP and Dems is that we must all read faster or something. The red folks will slowly come around, it just takes them longer.
If you want a really good cry, go read the Rolling Stone article:
June 1st, 2006 at 3:45 pmWas the 2004 Election Stolen
http://www.rollingstone.com/ news/ story/ 10432334/ was_the_2004_election_stolen
I am afraid we’re going to wake up one day and learn that the bombing has begun. No diplomacy, no congress, no UN, just bombs. These people are crazy enough to do it.
BTW, what’s the deal with recess appointments? Doesn’t his appointment expire soon and have to go back to the Senate?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:46 pmWell, Bush tried all the diplomacy he could. Time to send in the national guard.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:46 pmWhy is it that these p****ies can only appear on Fox News….
For supposedly macho tough guy Republicans they dont stray too far from the reservation…….
June 1st, 2006 at 3:48 pmWow, we have so much that needs to be taken care of here at home, and we’re about to blow it on ANOTHER military campaign of choice. What a waste.
I’m not an isolationist by any means, but this is goign to cause the defense budget to balloon further, and squeeze out a lot of very vital programs we need here.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:50 pmBut with that beard, he looks so grandfatherly. Grampa wouldn’t do anything rash. Grampa reads bedtime stories and smokes an old pipe by the fireplace, and calls Gramma “Ma” before going outside to chop some wood before he drinks a glass of milk then goes to bed at six.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:51 pmI am so tired of all of this tough-guy faux bravado from these right wing nutjobs. What purpose does saying that serve? Does he honestly believe that Iran is afraid of us?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:52 pmTHE US is updating contingency plans for a non-nuclear strike to cripple Iran’s atomic weapon programme if international diplomacy fails, Pentagon sources have confirmed.
Strategists are understood to have presented two options for pinpoint strikes using B2 bombers flying directly from bases in Missouri, Guam in the Pacific and Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean……..
The main plan calls for a rolling, five-day bombing campaign against 400 key targets in Iran, including 24 nuclear-related sites, 14 military airfields and radar installations, and Revolutionary Guard headquarters.
At least 75 targets in underground complexes would be attacked with waves of bunker-buster bombs.
Iranian radar networks and air defence bases would be struck by submarine-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles and then kept out of action by carrier aircraft flying from warships in the Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13066.htm
Updated…here;
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13458.htm
They have three aircraft carriedr groups on the way to the persian gulf…
Timeframe would be the next few weeks….
June 1st, 2006 at 3:55 pmThat’s what his ex wife said too.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:57 pmIs it January 20, 2009 at 12:01 pm yet?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:57 pmIf there is a god, then bolton will die a slow and agonizing death.
Maybe he already is; maybe it’s eating away at his insides that he is so hated. Maybe that’s what makes him so completely awful.
Ku ku ka chu…
June 1st, 2006 at 3:57 pmUgh, the ONLY reason Iran wants nukes is for self defence since we only invade countries who DON’T possess them. It’s the same “fear” that fueled the cold war. Your neighbor wouldn’t dare use them on you cause you’ll use them back. Stupid elementary school logic.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:59 pm“i normally try to be civil, but…”
He is not deserving of civility.
This should help lighten the mood:
June 1st, 2006 at 3:59 pm
With what military?
Is John Bolton hiding troops under that 70s porn star mustache?
And this is our UN Ambassador. Hey John, nice diplomacy there. Do you kiss your Secretary of State with that mouth?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:01 pmGrrrr. Stupid HTML. As I was saying, this should help lighten the mood:
http://www.loonie.dial.pipex.com/Bolton.mov
June 1st, 2006 at 4:02 pmBolton on the Fux Nutwork - the perfect combination of crap and toilet.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:04 pmhttp://www.thewashingtonnote.com/
June 1st, 2006 at 4:04 pmI posted this link on another thread, but since Bolten’s being all warm and fuzzy, I thought it was worth posting here as well.
Article re: Rice vs. Cheney/Bolten
#31–Where are the targetted sites? You would think that after Valerie Plame was outed everything got moved around.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:06 pmOh…Bolty…you just exude diplomacy. How…how…what a turn on.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:06 pmCaptain Kangaroo (Man with dark hair and white moustache) SEZ THIS TO BRING PROFIT TO THE OIL BARONS. What a crock Jail these TRAITORS!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:06 pmDeja vu- Iran = Iraq II
The test bomb in Nevada is now scheduled to be detonated on June 23rd. It was originally scheduled for tomorrow, but a local Indian tribe filed a lawsuit.
The attack on Iran will probably take place during the last week of June (25th-30th).
Bolton looks like a Nazi in the high command. They have to get this invasion going before his term is up. I believe it only lasts through the final working day of this congress- near the end of the year.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:07 pmHow about we just parachute Jon Bolton about 30 miles inside Pakistan off the Afganistan border & let Osama videotape what they do.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:10 pmIs it January 20, 2009 at 12:01 pm yet?
Comment by Curlew
963days, 8hrs, 50min…
June 1st, 2006 at 4:10 pmI’m completely terrified by these developments, especially if Hersh’s article is true & the neo-cons want to use bunker buster nukes. I can’t think of a more volatile scenario. Will Bush try this as a hail mary pass to (in his mind) salvage his reputation & leave a “legacy?”
completely terrified. . .
June 1st, 2006 at 4:12 pmTrueblue- I’m afraid that date is not even a guarantee that this nightmare will go away. I am of the firm opinion that these thugs will not go quietly or peacefully.
Eventually the people, well armed, will have to remove these unelected dictators from power.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:13 pmJohn Bolton looks like Captain Crunch.
Comment by Todd — June 1, 2006 @ 3:36 pm
That’s where I’ve seen him before! Saturday morning breakfast’s when I was 8… Only, I think he gave me a couple cavities…
June 1st, 2006 at 4:13 pmHow about we just parachute Jon Bolton about 30 miles inside Pakistan off the Afganistan border & let Osama videotape what they do.
Comment by kindness — June 1, 2006 @ 4:10 pm
Can we send Condi, Bushie, Cheney and Rummy along as well?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:15 pmhttp://www.backwardsbush.com/
June 1st, 2006 at 4:16 pmI got the time wrong by an hour.
Check it out!
We must all remember that these guys hadn’t a clue what kind of insurgency would happen in Iraq after we invaded and it appears we’re about to repeat the same mistake again.After these clowns bomb Iran they obviously expect the Iranians to sue for peace rather than pour across the border into Iraq (which is probably what will happen).After all, it’s easy to find lots of Americans in Iraq.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:17 pmIndependent,
I’m very afraid as well.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:18 pmWe desperately need to win and win big in November.
Anvilhead- I thought you were effectively quarantined to the Raw Story battleground. Too bad. Your neurosis is getting bad. I encourage you to sign up at your nearest military recruitment center before the action on Iran begins. Your Furher needs fresh blood for his new folly. The existing forces are stretched thin.
Your’e wasting your time here. Hurry and sign up!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:18 pmbushco needs to ramp up terror in the world so that george W. can justify consolidation of additional presidential powers. Attacks on Americans throughout the world would mean additional military activity by the “war president” and continued curtailment of personal freedoms in America. This prez is crazy enough to believe that he alone can “save” the USA from the awful threat of Iran. These clowns are all about using American military force to shape the world to their liking. War is not a negative prospect to them. . . something most Americans have yet to comprehend.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:18 pmASS-VILHEAD,
June 1st, 2006 at 4:20 pmWhat do possibly have to personally gain by invading Iraq, other than another excuse to shove your hands down your pants to play with Cap’n Willie while innocent blood is shed? That’s your idea of a turn on, right, you sick f*cker.
This brings to mind Hitler’s march through Europe. This will be Bush’s limp through the Middle East.
Those of us with children had better start finding hiding places because the draft is a comming!!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:20 pm#43, Actually, I was thinking Dr. Whovee from Horton Hears a Who.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:20 pmI have no doubt unilateral military action is on the table; I also have no doubt it will be an even more colossal mess than our current mess in Iraq. We may actually unite the world against us. Yes, Bush is a uniter, not a divider. Throw the bums out, as soon as possible.
#52 - That’s on my favorite list now. It’s just not moving fast enough…
June 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmTrueblue- A victory in November will have to include the destruction of electronic voting. Although right now it would be difficult to cheat enough to make up their deficits in the polls, Karl Rove is working on the e-voting fraud as we speak. He cannot be underestimated.
If this continues, armed conflict within these borders will be the only recourse.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmI don’t know about anyone else here, but when I see that face all I can think is —
Mustache rides $2
– and I’m so happy I don’t have $2.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:24 pmOK - oil prices, Iraq debacle, NSA spying, outing a CIA operative, Katrina debacle, 9/11, no-bid contracts, voting fraud, (what have I left off) - and now quite possibly an attack on Iran. Will the congress act now? Will the people of this country revolt now?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:26 pmYes, Bolton was a recess appointment, but his tenure is up when the new 110th Congress is sworn in sometime in January. Recess appointments only last until the next congress. That doesn’t meen BombCo will appoint him again if the Senate doesn’t jump on the heckuva job this guy has done.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:28 pmZoo, ickkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:28 pmSome diplomacy. Bolton needs an entire Dale Carnegie course.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:41 pm#65 - Isn’t it? I’m a sick woman. :P
June 1st, 2006 at 4:43 pmZoo,
June 1st, 2006 at 4:47 pmI like you anyway.
(Hell, I like the sick stuff, too! It makes me laugh!)
All the reasons the Bush Administration gave for invading Iraq that turned out to be wrong (they had direct ties to and BinLadin and 9/11, they supported and sheltered Al-Queda and other Islamic terrorist groups, and they were ready to go nuclear) do apply to Iran.
Iran IS an Islamic terrorist nation.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:48 pmIran IS building nuclear weapons (probably already have a half-dozen).
Iran supported and facilitated the 9/11 suicide terrorists.
Well, the’s the gauntlet being thrown.
Next Condi will speak to the UN and tell them about all the secret weapons labs that Rummy knows about.
Faux and the MSM will demand action.
Then we’ll surround the country and demand UN and IAE inspectors be given access (that will last about a month before they are told to leave for their safety by Bush)
Then Shucks and Awwwww. Instant quagmine.
Who could have seen this coming?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:52 pmI think the Bush administration lacks diplomacy, (QUITE) diplomacy. All that were getting from the President on down is angry, arguementative huffing and puffing. It seems that they lack statemenship at all levels. I,m afraid that the rest of the world looks at our leadership as imature to the point of being rude and crude with lack of content or meaning.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:52 pmWhen the day comes, and it will come, when these bastards are led out of the halls of power in chains and orange jumpsuits, my friends THAT will be a day of joy and celebration. I don’t want retribution — though they surely deserve it — little men like John Bolton will be consigned to the ignominy of history; I want to turn away from Bush and Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld, their craven enablers in the media, and the vichey in our own party — and think of them no more. THAT will be happy day, a day I will raise a glass to every year ever after until the day I die.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:53 pmBolton’s preposterous saber rattling is just the death rattle of the Bush administration. The Russians, the Chinese, well, practically everyone must just be sitting back laughing at the Chimp’s empty threats. La Douche Bag Rice is even funnier with her “measured response” nonsense on Lehrer. Don’t these fools understand that the ballgame is over and they lost?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:54 pmWhat is the liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons? Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:55 pmCaption:
Got Man Yogurt?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:56 pmHow many times is it going to take before we get it???
The writing is on the wall!!!
BOLTON: “We’re making a significant step here,†that will be criticized by many of the president’s staunchest supporters here at home. But he’s taking this step to show strength and American leadership and to say he’s willing to do something that may be unpopular even with some of his supporters…”
TRANSLATION: “We’re moving forward with the agenda laid out in PNAC whereby the United States is no longer a representative democracy/republic.” “for you conservative supporters who disagree with us, it’s been a nice ride, thanks for playing.”
TIME TO MAKE PLANS: (1) GET A PASSPORT AND (2) HAVE A PLAN TO LEAVE THE US FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR OWN LIVES.
Think I’m nuts? Ask the folks in Germany who kept telling themselves it would get better.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:00 pmI didn’t read the previous comments but to the trolls Anvilhead (perfect name) and Mr. Jerome, you better make sure your next paycheck from the RNC doesn’t bounce because you’re all washed up.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:00 pmHow many times is it going to take before we get it???
The writing is on the wall!!!
BOLTON: “We’re making a significant step here,†that will be criticized by many of the president’s staunchest supporters here at home. But he’s taking this step to show strength and American leadership and to say he’s willing to do something that may be unpopular even with some of his supporters…”
TRANSLATION: “We’re moving forward with the agenda laid out in PNAC whereby the United States is no longer a representative democracy/republic.” “for you conservative supporters who disagree with us, it’s been a nice ride, thanks for playing.”
TIME TO MAKE PLANS: (1) GET A PASSPORT AND (2) HAVE A PLAN TO LEAVE THE US FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR OWN LIVES.
Think I’m nuts? Ask the folks in Germany who kept telling themselves it would get better.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:01 pmSurrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
Comment by Randy — June 1, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
Yeah because Iraq, and Iran, and the rest of the Islamic world are so set on invading the US.
Gee lets see. Iran has years before they can even start to build a nuclear bomb. Technology sold to them by our good allies the pakistanis. The instant sabre rattling is hardly needed. If we can’t find a resolution in 8 years, then lets talk about military strikes.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pmPut up or shut up… that’s what they should have told him at his confirmation hearings when he wouldn’t provide all the requested documents.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pm#68 - trueblue, I’ve tried to stop, I really have. But Bolton pops on the screen and there it is. I’m glad you appreciate quality humor. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pmof course the option is not off the table, it never will be, thats the point of war, if things get bad ENOUGH you go to war, but thats not an outcome that should even be discussed in these stages…whats going to happen: war is going to go off the table, and then poof peace on earth? no, but as long as you are rattling sabers, and backing nations into a corner, its almost like prodding them - when do you stop? when they lash out and you put ‘em down…that is not the right course for iran (or iraq - see gwb plan to fly us planes with un markings)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:04 pmRandy - OK, I’ll bite - what army/marine corp units will be going into Iran. Becuase you cannot be stupid enough to believe there will not be gound fighting. Or can you?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:04 pmJP,
I actually have thought of what it would take to go to England, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Hell even Canada since it seems it’s gonna get mighty warm!
Problem is: What if your name shows up on the “No Fly List”? (by accident, I’m sure…just like Ted Kennedy…)
Then you’re stuck.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:05 pm– and I’m so happy I don’t have $2.
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 4:24 pm
You owe us each a brillo pad for that one… My skin is still crawling with repulsion… Damn Pippi.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:06 pmSeriously, this crap Bolton is spewing is our wake-up call. This cannot be allowed to happen. Invading Iraq will definitely be the end of us/US. If there was ever a time for protests in the streets, this is it.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:06 pm“Surrender to the Islamic World”
June 1st, 2006 at 5:08 pm????????????????
there is only one world view allowed? what are we the christian world? please! - if every nation is looking at one world order then we are doomed and might as well just shoot the ones we love in the head before turning the gun on ourselves, is that what you want Randy? do you want to go after world domination, i ain’t got your back, it seems we have too much land on our hands as it is and cannot protect our citizens effectively, what are we going to do in the middle east?
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What is the liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons? Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
Comment by Randy — June 1, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
How about actually listening to the IAEA and others like the Swiss who have brought proposals out of Iraq only to be rebuffed by Bush and Rice…
and having competent adult leadership ..not 14 year old macho ex drunk wanna bees trying to impress their shrinking base….
June 1st, 2006 at 5:09 pmDamn Pippi.
Comment by unbelievable
Ok, brillo pads all around, and I’ll throw in the bleach real cheap. But if a picture of Bolton ever shows up, you know where I’m going. Fair warning. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:09 pmBecuase you cannot be stupid enough to believe there will not be gound fighting. Or can you?
Comment by Jules — June 1, 2006 @ 5:04 pm
Think Bush and the invasion of Iraq. Pretty much the same idea. Pretty much the same assinine logic. Probably the same results - or worse. Randy is the definition of insanity personified…
Oh, by the way, I seem to have cured my Denny problem. Just needed the right hammer to whack it with. Apparently the one with the rubber end was too delicate… : )
June 1st, 2006 at 5:09 pmRandy,
Lets start by looking at what we are accusing them of. We are accusing them of persueing nuclear technology for the purpose of developing a nuclear weapon.
We also accused Saddam of having WMD, which he swore up and down that he did not. t turns out, that he was not lieing. Could it be that Iran is not lieing either? Why do you trust this administration at all?
The CIA has said that Iran is 10 years away from being able to produce a nuclear weapon.
This is not about their nuclear weapons. Just as Iraq was not about WMD. In 2000 Saddam started trading oil for Euro. Iran is starting to do the same thing now. Read this:
http://www.masternewmedia.org/ news/ 2006/ 01/ 23/ the_iranian_oil_exchange_proposal.htm
“States are not moral agents.” - Chomsy
June 1st, 2006 at 5:10 pm#81, Zookeeper,
June 1st, 2006 at 5:10 pmYou should see me after a couple of Vodka/CranRaspberry’s.
Then all my diatribe of the “Y” chromosome kicks in!
But if a picture of Bolton ever shows up, you know where I’m going. Fair warning. ;)
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 5:09 pm
Fair enough. I’ll stay away. I’m an extremely visual person. That one hurt… In fact, bleach sounds good right now… :)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:13 pm#92 - It is my dearest wish to see & hear that, trueblue. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:14 pm#93 - Bleach is good for the gargle, too. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:16 pmOk, I’ll STOP!!!
But you know I’ll remember the visual thing, don’t you?
Then all my diatribe of the “Y†chromosome kicks in!
Comment by trueblue — June 1, 2006 @ 5:10 pm
Got any handy now? I’d be up for that one myself as well… :)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:17 pmBush will be swinging from a lamppost along with the rest of the US Government and its Corporate State Controlled Media if the USA pre emptively attacks Iran with Mini Nukes to Prevent them from uh building a nookular power plant. If we are going to bomb a nation in the Middle east with Nookular WMDS, that bullies its neighbors, that ignores the UN, then we should bomb the hell out of Israel. If the US and Israel gave up their Nukes, THEN called on the rest of the world to join them, I’d be right there. But lying to start a world war of conquest that we will lose, I say hang the bastards!
June 1st, 2006 at 5:21 pmBut you know I’ll remember the visual thing, don’t you?
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 5:16 pm
Well, I thought we’d established that when you started with the brillo pad bit?
Something like 9 out of 10 people are visual. And I’d guess that applies to most people who type as a form of communication?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:21 pmVarious CIA analysts like Ray Mcgovern have said don’t be surprised if all the sudden you see a suspiciously convenient terror attack on the US or allies, blamed on Iran if the congress or public isnt buying the invasion plans. They lied about the “Jews have to wear identification” story, they lied about Iran making nukes…and I say if a terrorist attack does happen thats blamed on “al Qaeda” or Iran…I know exactly who to blame.
People are finally seeing the total insanity the neocons are willing to go to here with sabre rattling Iran, or lying to get into Afghanistan and Iraq. You really think its so proposterous to think that the US knew full well about 9/11 and allowed it to happen? And covered up Pakistani ISI funding? I think not.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:22 pmSo this is the US’s example of how to solve problems with others? Kindergardeners on their first day of school are better prepared to solve problems with others. What’s that list “everything I need to know I learned in Kindergarden”? or something like that.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:23 pmIs that his mustache or did he eat a skunk?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:24 pmSurrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
Comment by Randy — June 1, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
Wouldn’t we have to be under attack by the Islamic world for us to surrender? And yet, here we are, blogging away…..
June 1st, 2006 at 5:24 pmThat hole with the mutant caterpillar above it. Or is it baleen to assist in the bottom feeding?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:25 pmZookeeper, Unbelievable:
Performance Anxiety!! Ahhh!!
June 1st, 2006 at 5:28 pm:)
Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
Comment by Randy — June 1, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
Wouldn’t we have to be under attack by the Islamic world for us to surrender? And yet, here we are, blogging away…..
Comment by ann
Oh that doesnt matter. They are one bomb away from surrendering anyway. One more 911 and we just might have to surrender and let them all come have our houses and malls.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:28 pmunfortunately we will have this asshat at the UN till the recess appointment expires, when the new congress takes over in 2007 =P
June 1st, 2006 at 5:34 pm$10 to the first person who pulls his cheezy mustache off and shoves it down his throat.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:35 pm“Put up or Shut up”. Very fine diplomatic dialogue there Mr. B.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:37 pmPlan of attack: Timeline.
Secret insurgencies like MEK and US Special Ops Map out nuclear facilities, sabotage currently under way
“2 B-2 Bombers invade and dispach supposidly accurate bombs on indicated sites
Other aircraft take out Iranian air defenses.
Cruise missiles fired from US Navy at sea
Iran counters with “Whale” high speed torpedoes, anti aircraft (what’s left)
Muslim allies and other factions activate
Worldwide terrorist attacks on American interists and allies
Iran oil disrupted and world oil supplies restricted
OPEC raises oil prices
Russia and China intervene
World grows tired of US incursions into other nations
America isolated with $4.00 plus gasoline
Bush continues his follies with Iraq and Iran now doubled in war problems
Armageddon
Rapture
Just what these “End Days” folks wanted.
WORDS SPOKEN BY A MAD MAN. Bolton is a sick man who needs medical help just don’t go to Dr. Quack aka Senator Frist.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:38 pmIf tomorrow Iran says it will disband all nu Q lure research and operations then what would be next on the U.S. pretext list for invading and controlling Iran’s oil production?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:38 pmwomens rights?anti- Israeli? terrorist sponsors? It does not matter to them.
What is the liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons? Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
Comment by Randy
Easy.
Israel gives up there nukes and America will not do bad things to them like no more money.
Iran gives up their nukes and America will not do bad things to them like bombs.
Rest of middle east signs on to a peace deal with Israel and Iran so that neither Iran nor Israel has to make nuclear bombs… or else America does bad things to them like more invasions and more attention into their religious backing of terrorism.
There ya go… America gets to make threats AND we give everyone else a good and fair reason to not have nukes…. and without nuking anyone ourselves…! Wow that took 5 mintues…
Anyone want to come up with another… theres got to be hundreds of combinations that is better than Randys “I GOT NO FREAKIN IDEA! LETS BOMB THEM!”
June 1st, 2006 at 5:40 pmCan’t we just take away “the tabke”? If there were no table, then we wouldn’t have to worry about whether Dubya thinks things are on or off “the table”..
June 1st, 2006 at 5:44 pmTRueBlue,
What kind of performance are you talking about?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:46 pmprison planet
June 1st, 2006 at 5:46 pm“…and i dont know if anyone has already noticed this, but aside from being nuts, John Bolton looks like Captain Crunch.”
No way. He looks like Captian Kangaroo.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:47 pmBolton is an asshole.
The Senate needs to fire him in 2007.
Condi Rice is a bitch.
These two are both incompetent.
Get ready for WW3.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:48 pmFor Truth,
June 1st, 2006 at 5:52 pmZookeeper and Unbelievable wanted me to start my diss of the “Y” chromosome.
I haven’t gotten myself liquored up yet!
See the posts above.
We were just “saying Hi” to each other in our own way! :)
#104 - Sorry. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:53 pmI just forgot this wasn’t the open thread. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:57 pmWell, my guess is US gov is really scared because they dont find the hold on nothing: Afghanistan, Iraq, North Korea, Venezuela, etc. US invaded IRAQ precisely because Saddam lacked nukes.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:01 pmDoes US has invaded countries with nukes???? I dont think so…but what about BIG, SCARY countries like Nicaragua, Vietnam, Somalia, Granade, Panama, etc…?
My guess is this: Iran = WMD, then US bluff as with North Korea.
Iran = no WMD, then there comes a liberation op for the sake humanity, true values, high moral standards against evil doers…
TrueBlue,
Ohhhhh, I see, an inside situation way above my “Y” chromosome “head”. I hope I supplied more ammo for ya here! You must be out east. Getting liquered up now is kinda early for me, 3pm-ish.
Zoo already had one or two?
June 1st, 2006 at 6:04 pmI just forgot this wasn’t the open thread. ;)
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 5:57 pm
Apparently, even the open thread isn’t. I got an email from IRI. Apparently he can post, but he’s the only one who can see it. Yet lunatics like Denny and Santo have no problem. I’m confused… Aren’t we the inclusive people? Free speech and the right to be an idiot? Just skip over the posts by peole you don’t want to read? When did that change?
I’m disappointed. I thought we were bigger than the Red State crowd…
June 1st, 2006 at 6:09 pmFor Truth,
So you’re a guy?
Oops. Sorry.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:10 pm(Hey, did you know the Y chromo is shrinking -so to speak? It has the least amt. of genes of any other chromo.)
Couldn’t help myself! ;-)
Yes I’m out east, Cape Cod. (yack…)
Red State deletes all dissenting opinions. We need to just delete the crazy lunatics like I-RIGHT-I and ANVILHEAD. These guys don’t want to debate, they want to antagonize. Speaking of antagonizing, he is another that could go away. Same with mighty aphrodite. These people are loonies. Gary Rupert anybody?
June 1st, 2006 at 6:14 pmMighty Aphrodite:
Dear Foreign Policy Neophytes - Hopefully, Iran will be persuaded to preserve their country and population….
Oh, my dear!… “Mighty Aphrodite” here is going to fly over Iran, squat, and take a big dump on them….
In all seriousness, can anyone think of anything more lawless that bombing Iran??? But can anyone think of any other way that the numbnutz in charge will come up with to try and save their political a$$? They’re a one-trick pony, and we all saw what they did last time around … well, all except some 2471 of us….
Cheers,
June 1st, 2006 at 6:16 pmThis man is not a diplomat, he is a recess appointment. So John, the words for you is SHUT UP YOU IDIOT! W has all our troops tied up in a needless war in Iraq. How many young Americans do you want killed? Talk about hating America, this guy leads the packalong with that 29% that drink the Kool Aid as prepared by Faux News.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:19 pmWow, my english really sucks!
June 1st, 2006 at 6:21 pmRed State deletes all dissenting opinions.
But how is this different?
We need to just delete the crazy lunatics like I-RIGHT-I and ANVILHEAD.
Neither of them is as serious as you take them. How is that their fault?
Personally, when I want to debate with them, I read tehir posts and respond. When I don’t. I skip them. ANVILHEAD types in all caps and I-RIGHT-I types in bold. Easy enough.
These guys don’t want to debate, they want to antagonize. Speaking of antagonizing, he is another that could go away. Same with mighty aphrodite. These people are loonies. Gary Rupert anybody?
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 1, 2006 @ 6:14 pm
I’m wholly against any form of censorship - unless it is threatening. It goes against what being a liberal is supposed to mean. The right to be opposing.
Isn’t that what you fought for when you were in teeh miltary? The Constitutional right to freedom of speech? I don’t recall the part where it says “unless yo don;t want to hear it”.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:30 pm#123,
TrueBlue,
Now how would I get a vasectomey if I wasn’t a guy. The story is true. I really wondered if the person who shaved my balls was a Republican.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:30 pmOh Yeah, For Truth!
(I was really tired last night.) That was true??? OUCH!
Unbelievable,
June 1st, 2006 at 6:38 pmLast night’s ThinkFast: Someone named I lovethegirl or something like that posted a link to a raw story comment section. It was scary. Santo was nuts.
The only highlight was when someone posted, in response to santo’s love affair with caps:
LOUD NOISES!!
-Brick Tamlin
(see Anchorman)
Bolton: “Put up or shut up time for Iran”…
To this administration, war is diplomacy. From Think Progress:[U.N. AMBASSADOR JOHN] BOLTON: And I think when the President says it’s unacceptable, I think what he means by that is that it’s unacceptable. So it’s important… CAVUTO: But unacceptabl…
June 1st, 2006 at 6:39 pmNo worries TrueBLue, it doesn’t hurt as bad as it feels.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:41 pm# 2 JAJAJAJA
June 1st, 2006 at 6:45 pmwhat a blood thirsty nation Americans are
I say so what even if they are developing a bomb - Id rather they have one than america and what gives you the god damm right to to even threaten iran with one
also fed up with american attitude ” do what we want or we all get blown up”
what kind of moranic thinking place is the us …lets all get rid of the bomb
June 1st, 2006 at 6:48 pmArghh But America will lose its trumpcard …stuff you lot
Why do they still shave?
Talk about itchy!
So I guess you’re a left-coaster? (Where I want to be…)
June 1st, 2006 at 6:48 pmBlix condemns ‘militaristic’ US
A former UN weapons inspector has urged Iran and Israel to end their nuclear activities and criticised the US for seeking militaristic remedies to disagreements.
The recommendation was one of 60 put forward in a report prepared by the 14-member Weapons of Mass Destruction Commission, an initiative of the Swedish government set up in 2003.
Hans Blix, who led the UN search for chemical, biological and nuclear weapons in Iraq before the US-led invasion, presented the report to Kofi Annan, the UN secretary-general.
The report said US leadership was crucial in halting the spread of nuclear weapons.
“If it takes the lead, the world is likely to follow. If it does not take the lead, there could be more nuclear tests and new nuclear arms races,” Blix said in the introduction to the report.
Yet Blix said that the US had “looked more to its own military power for remedies” instead of strengthening international treaties and institutions.
LINK HERE
June 1st, 2006 at 6:50 pmTrueBlue,
What else could that Republican have done to remove hair from the scrotum? I assumed some type of shaver. I don’t think it was Nair. Itchy yes, for a week.
I live in Northern AZ, in the mountains, lots of Righty’s, Fords, Chevys, etc. I would like to go to Northern CA, but way too expensive.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:52 pmNo its not time for Iran to put up or shut up
Its time for america just to get lost and leave the rest of the world alone -g get lost the lot of you
June 1st, 2006 at 6:53 pm“Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” - Isaac Asimov
The real question here isn’t whether or not the administration is hell-bent on bombing and possibly deploying nuclear weapons against Iran.
The real question is whether or not we’re going to stand for it.
Time’s running out, and soon thousands of innocent lives will be extinguished - if we don’t act quickly, that is.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:54 pmg get lost the lot of you
Comment by Tobey tall — June 1, 2006 @ 6:53 pm
http://www.redstate.org Go there. Those are the people who agree with the Bush Regime and need to be yelled at. We’re the folks who disagree - not the ones you should be insulting. We agree with you on this. Why we are here.
It’s really not America. It’s our corrupt government. Just like Saddam didn’t represent the Iraqi people, neither does the Bush Regime represent Americans.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:56 pmI would like to go to Northern CA, but way too expensive.
Comment by For Truth — June 1, 2006 @ 6:52 pm
I can vouch for that. Left there last year because I was going into debt - on living expenses. Plus, honestly, the culture wasn’t the best match for a gal who grew up in the South. I miss some things about it and not others - especially $6 a box for cereal…
June 1st, 2006 at 6:58 pmBrilliant! Oil will skyrocket to $200 a barrel, Exxon and Haliburton will be rich! Rich, I tell you. All hail the neo-fascists!
After watching The Corporation last night last night, my quick guess is that this is a great time for him to get loud … so his oil trading buddies can make a dime.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:01 pmI would pay good american money to burn that damn mustache off that freak’s face, one hair at a time.
Hey Mr. Bolton, tell us again about the cuban biological weapons program.
What an Ass-Clown.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:03 pmYou gave IRI your email address? Wait for it….unbelievable!!
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 6:55 pm
Other way around at first. I emailed him something during a discussion because I couldn’t post a photo.
In reality he is a nice person who has manners and is normal. Sometimes we swap jokes or have a conversation. I think he’s funny. He just gets carried away in here because he thinks there’s no point to real debate with the opposition - which I’ve begun to understand why - so it’s better to be extreme to get people to the middle to make his point. He’s really a moderate conservative - except for the religious stuff - then he’s a little zealous. But at least he’s coherent…
June 1st, 2006 at 7:08 pmFor the latest “progress” in Iraq. Check out jsg.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:10 pm#148 - The sperm donor? You’re such a kind person, I call mine the “Asshole at the Center of the Universe” or “Twat,” but never in the presence of my boys, because I have standards. Not high standards, obviously, but standards nonetheless.
G’night all!
June 1st, 2006 at 7:11 pm(aka: the sperm donor. There you go, Zoo & Unbelievable…!)
Comment by trueblue — June 1, 2006 @ 7:04 pm
At least he donated an X :)
June 1st, 2006 at 7:11 pm#149 - I will take your word for it, my dear Salma. Good luck with that!
June 1st, 2006 at 7:12 pmGodamit: My white moustache is worth more than your brown moustache!
June 1st, 2006 at 7:23 pmI’ve already said that you shouln’t be more than you believe because it hurts to be what you are! Get a life!
I am so sick and disgusted of lying Bush and his henchmen specially when they say we have to sacrifice for freedom. What the hell is or has Bushy boy ever, I mean ever in his life sacrificed for our great nation or for anyone? ABSOLUTLY NOTHING. They have sent our brave soldiers to die for a lie and they are still willing to do it yet again, because it is not going to be their kids, brothers, sisters or any of their friends. Yet they are willing to sacrifice what others love but not what they love. It turns my stomach every single time a lying Bush utters the word SACRIFICE.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:37 pmgang : a speculative page from the recent history of the future
So bush & co bomb iran.
Folks are so freaked out there’s a national strike (has anyone else proposed this?)
We did it in ‘70, when the Nix & the Kiss invaded Cambodia (you could look it up).
Bush flips & declares martial law, suspends constitution, elections, supersizing & casual fridays.
and then?
how’s about: National Guard, feeling burned by their misuse in Iraq, refuses to enforce.
Career military, knowing he lacks all legitimacy, prys his crazed trembling hands from the levers of power in a constitutional coup.
or?
June 1st, 2006 at 7:50 pmAll those shilling for attacking Iran should be charged with conspiracy to commit mass murder. All those who planned, backed or shilled for the Iraq invasion should be charged with 1250,000 counts of premeditated murder as well as crimes against humanty.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:51 pmI will take your word for it, my dear Salma. Good luck with that!
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 7:12 pm
Don’t you have friends who are conservatives? Same thing really. Though I have one who is worse than him actually…
As for Santo - well, I only hope she’s somewhere with bars :)
June 1st, 2006 at 7:53 pmI’d say this is “put up or shut up time” for Bolton and the U.S. If they blow these talks then I hope Iran does acquire a nuke. You know, just to shove it in JB’s face.What a little freak.
http://www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
Hadith: The cover-up continues.
Right now on LCL
http://www.sunstateactivist.org
June 1st, 2006 at 8:01 pmSays Randy: What is the liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons?
Randy, is this your real name? Bolten looks jolly randy to me, too, mate!
He’s sooo randy today. Just look at his moustache… Y’all american perverts.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:03 pmI’m wholly against any form of censorship - unless it is threatening. It goes against what being a liberal is supposed to mean. The right to be opposing.
Isn’t that what you fought for when you were in teeh miltary? The Constitutional right to freedom of speech? I don’t recall the part where it says “unless yo don;t want to hear itâ€.
Comment by unbelievable — June 1, 2006 @ 6:30 pm
Right on!
June 1st, 2006 at 8:06 pmZookeeper, Unbelievable,
Oh Yeah.
We definately need to get together!!
Some fun WILL be had!
As far as “the sperm donor, he is totally in love with his daughter, so how could I hate him? We actually laugh a lot together. My real diatribe is with “Voldemort.” Yup. That’s what my daughter and I call him. Alphabetized his faults…
A-moral
Bipolar, etc
not that I’m bitter…
June 1st, 2006 at 8:08 pm:-)
Revolution/coup against the Criminal Bush Regime is on the table too.
Certainly, the public doesn’t _want_ to entertain these ideas, but if Bush steps over the line with Iran, he’s asking for it.
An attack on Iran by Bush is an attack on America as far as I’m concerned.
And America, its Constitution and its values *will* be defended.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:20 pmThe Republicans are unconcerned with how they behave becasue they’ve now mastered cheating their way into Presidency twice. With Diebold and ESS by their side, waging wars that Americans disapprove of is immaterial. Watch November, how all those exit polls were wrong!!!
June 1st, 2006 at 8:38 pmSorry Zoo,
Didn’t mean to insinuate you are drinking at work, just kidding with ya!
June 1st, 2006 at 8:45 pmSorry Zoo,
Didn’t mean to insinuate you are drinking at work, just kidding with ya!
Interesting that Unbeleivable is corresponding with IRI, as a counselor, it’s difficult not to “make anything of it”.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:46 pmTypical of some women, they act like they are disgusted with the bad boys, but in the end, they go for the bad boys. Huh Unbeleivable.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:48 pmhey unbelievable,
i have friends that are conservatives, and none of them talks to me like an absolute right-wing buttlicker like i-r-i. my conservative friends tend to be people that are, you know, coherent, respectful, somewhat open-minded…
what i-r-i does here is immature and contemptiable. if he wanted people to know he is a “moderate conservative” as you say, he’d act like it. how can you trust someone that, under the guise of an internet persona, acts like someone they’re not? not exactly what i want in a pen pal.
and the fundy christian nonsense is where i draw the line. i am open-minded to almost anything, but fundamentalism of any sort is anathema to humankind and we should really, as a society, decide it’s best to treat those people as pariahs. when you look at how they’d have our society (a theocracy), it’s easy to conclude that they are enemies of democracy, freedom and self-expression.
you’ve actually convinced me that i-r-i deserves more abuse and derision than i normally give him.
thanks.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:49 pmLMFAO!!!!! :) :)
June 1st, 2006 at 8:54 pmI suppose Iran could, in the face of this nonsense, quote Bush’s doctrine on preemptive warfare in the case of threats to ” ‘national’ ’security’ “. It is fitting now for Iran to start sinking carriers in the Gulf, and moving its troops westward. This moustachioed idiot Bolton is pretext enough to attack the USA. Hell, Olmert’s joke about Bolton is pretext enough to sizzle that shitty little country on the mediteranean coast.
in the face of a country spying on its citizens, causing untold misery around the world because of its greed, interfering with other countries politics, converting to islam is looking more and more attractive each day. in the end it may even result in a freer life than what most in the west have. at least with islam one gets virgins after death. in the west we are assured of nothing except nihilism preceded by taxes.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:56 pm#165 - That’s ok, ForTruth, emotional blackmail is a specialty of mine, just ask trueblue. ;)
#162 - treublue, if my ex was like that with my sons, I’d like him a lot more, but letting 2.5 years go by without seeing them just gets me a little cranky.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:00 pmThey used to assassinate slimy amoebic skinbags like this prick, has noone in the JEWSA got a backbone anymore ?
If not you all deserve what you get ….
June 1st, 2006 at 9:10 pmIf we reserve the right for pre-emptive war then so does Iran and/or anyone else for that matter.
If war to prevent war is morally just or fits in what some to right refer to as a “Just War Theory” then Iran would be in the right to invade Iraq and eliminate the U.S. forces there, or to invade Israel.
If the U.S. is going to have nuclear weapons, and threaten other nations with them, in this case particularly, Iran, then Iran has the right to develop them and threaten us with them.
There is no such thing as a “just” war, or a war with some kind of high moral standard. No war is “just.” And for those to the right or left who think WWII or the Civil War were “just” then I urge you to go back and read your history books.
“States are not moral agents.” - Chomsky
June 1st, 2006 at 9:14 pmOh Yeah, For Truth, re: #171
Zookeeper is an expert!!!!
She even got a fellow “Emo Blackmailer” aka “mother”!!
It was funny!
(If your “Y” brain doesn’t get it, I can explain further…….!!)
See, NOW I’ve had a couple of drinks!! I’m Ornery!
June 1st, 2006 at 9:22 pmInteresting that Unbeleivable is corresponding with IRI, as a counselor, it’s difficult not to “make anything of itâ€.
Comment by For Truth — June 1, 2006 @ 8:46 pm
How do you mean? We talk occasionally. Not bestfriends. Just both like politics, and to argue.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:33 pmyou’ve actually convinced me that i-r-i deserves more abuse and derision than i normally give him.
Comment by Progressaurus Rex — June 1, 2006 @ 8:49 pm
I’m sure he can handle it. He usually does.
And - for the record - if any of ya’ll got censored, I’d pull out my soapbox for you as well. It’s not just him. It’s the free speech issue.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:46 pmKnow what, Unbelievable,
I bet you’re one of those teachers kids remember long after they’ve left your classroom.
You really seem like an awesome person.
Glad to cyber-know you!
June 1st, 2006 at 9:54 pmTypical of some women, they act like they are disgusted with the bad boys, but in the end, they go for the bad boys. Huh Unbeleivable.
Comment by For Truth — June 1, 2006 @ 8:48 pm
Let’s clear this up. 80% of my friends are guys. I grew up with brothers and I’m not maternal. Most women want to talk about men, babies and what other women are wearing. I want to talk about politics, the environment, religion, history, architecture, etc. The women in here are all exceptions - or they wouldn’t be here. But, for the most part, I am more comfortable around men. It doesn’t mean I want to date all or, lately, any of them.
I actually don’t like bad boys. Never have. The majority of my boyfriends have been nice guys. The ones who weren’t lied in the beginning :).
Can we move past this now? Thanks.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:54 pm#It troubles me that one of our country’s chief diplomats has such a god-awful mustache. Mrs. Bolton, how do you let him leave the house in the morning looking like that?
Comment by The Pittsburgh Kid — June 1, 2006 @ 3:41 pmAnd wtf kind of dead animal is that on his head? Gawd, the man is an a**holes’ a**hole.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:00 pmthese guys couldnt give 2 craps about the g.o.p.they hijacked the party right under your nose while you were snoozing.unfotunately you evil little scumbags,you cant take the money with you when you die.the day eisenhower left the white house they cicked it in hi gear,greedy little federalist that they are and always will be,they went to work at their dream of a better america , like or not.eisenhower warned us about these people,the milatary complex,but as usual we hate to follow good advice.our forefathers are rolling in their graves watching the american corp. takeover in action,what do you think they would say about the traitors that are running our beloved country.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:00 pmYou really seem like an awesome person.
Glad to cyber-know you!
Comment by trueblue — June 1, 2006 @ 9:54 pm
So you get happy when you drink, huh? :) My youngest brother loves everyone after a few beers. You’re too funny.
Thanks. People either like me or dislike me - not many are indifferent. I’d have to say that I’m very fortunate that the ones who do like me are pretty awesome people. Even poor misunderstood IRI.
You, Zoo, Cyra, Lora, Sharon Cox and Jules make me proud to be a woman. If only we could get the rest of our gender to stop looking in the compact mirror and start thinking about our society and the world aga