Bolton: ‘This is Put Up or Shut Up Time For Iran,’ Unilateral Military Action Is ‘On The Table’
Bolton: ‘This is Put Up or Shut Up Time For Iran,’ Unilateral Military Action Is ‘On The Table’
Yesterday on Fox’s Your World with Neil Cuvuto, U.N. Ambassador John Bolton explicitly said that unilateral military action against Iran was “on the table.” Bolton diplomatically added, “This is put up or shut up time for Iran.” Watch it:
Transcript:
BOLTON: And I think when the President says it’s unacceptable, I think what he means by that is that it’s unacceptable. So it’s important…
CAVUTO: But unacceptable means that if it keeps going on you’re going to do something about it…
BOLTON: That no option is taken off the table. And Secretary…
CAVUTO: Military as well?
BOLTON: Exactly. Secretary Rice…
CAVUTO: Unilateral military action?
BOLTON: Secretary Rice made that point again today. But that’s why I think…
CAVUTO: That we would, I’m sorry Ambassador, that we would act alone if we had to?
BOLTON: That’s why he says no option is taken off the table. But it’s also why he has, the President, has reached out President Putin and other leaders in the past couple of days to say, “We’re making a significant step here,†that will be criticized by many of the president’s staunchest supporters here at home. But he’s taking this step to show strength and American leadership and to say he’s willing to do something that may be unpopular even with some of his supporters, to remove all excuses from Iran and its supporters to say, “We went the extra mile. We gave Iran really, this last chance to show that they are serious when they say they don’t want nuclear weapons.†This is put or shut up time for Iran.
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What military, and where is the money going to come from if the US initiates unilateral military action against Iran?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:24 pmThis has the uneasy feeling of being one of those glib comments that someone spouts and ends up regretting later…
“Bring it on.”
“Slam dunk.”
“Put up or shut up.”
June 1st, 2006 at 3:26 pmi normally try to be civil, but…
WHAT AN A**HOLE
June 1st, 2006 at 3:27 pmNot ground force – AIR FORCE! OMG- is this truly going to happen???
June 1st, 2006 at 3:27 pmOh yea, he’s a real Silver Tongued devil this one is.
A real diplomat.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:29 pmDear Foreign Policy Neophytes – Hopefully, Iran will be persuaded to preserve their country and population by the whorish French, Russians and Chinese. That said….The option should never be OFF the table – it’s called leverage.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:31 pmRed meat for Fox viewers, perhaps?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:32 pmThey are really gonna do this arent they….
They will kill their party for the next 30 years if they invade Iran….
that or kill us all!!!!!
thanks to the Recess Appointed moron we have at the UN for clearing everything up….
June 1st, 2006 at 3:33 pmthis is like ‘bring it on redux’, don’t ya think?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:33 pmActually I think Bolton was referring to the little Navy boats and planes he plays with in the bathtub. See, that lufa is really Iran, and here comes another air attack baby, watch out, oh… Lofa goes down again — that’s what I’m talking about, take that, I rule !!!
June 1st, 2006 at 3:36 pmi dont know if anyone has already noticed this, but aside from being nuts, John Bolton looks like Captain Crunch.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:36 pmMore shit and it isn’t even Friday……
June 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pmI recommend any US citizens looking to travel abroad to get the vacation in soon. If these lunatics bomb Iran, there will be no place safe to travel.
The economy will tank and China and Russia will supply Iran with weapons too…..
Heckuva job for the Warmonger Party.
-GSD
June 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pm#6 But why does the current administration always sound like that is the only piece on the chess table? Please expound on the diplomatic proposals.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pmoops..
don’t think for one minute that we as its citizens are notmere fodder for that “Interestâ€.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pm10 years away, if theyre actually building it, so yes, better bomb now just to make sure. that logic hasnt ever backfired.
…and i dont know if anyone has already noticed this, but aside from being nuts, John Bolton looks like Captain Crunch.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:38 pmWhat a ghastly excuse for a human being is Bolten. And he has the power to impact all of us with his juvenile, bombastic, and mean spirited posturing. Get him out. It is time for Americans to remove these thugs running our country into the ground. We must put people of real character, intelligence and vision in power and we have no time to lose. God I’m sick of these puny and cowardly excuses for men.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:39 pmI bet Bolton gets all the chicks.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:40 pmIt troubles me that one of our country’s chief diplomats has such a god-awful mustache. Mrs. Bolton, how do you let him leave the house in the morning looking like that?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:41 pmAnd remember, this guy wasn’t even approved for office by our representatives in the Senate. He was installed without any manner of democratic approval during Senate recess, and one could argue that his words are not those of the majority of the American people.
But then again, democracy and democratically approved actions mean very little to conservatives, so there’s no problem here for them.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:41 pmKiss up/Kick Down Bolton…
June 1st, 2006 at 3:42 pm“Put out or get out!” is Bolton’s Ace-in-the-Hole when smooth talkin’ the ladies.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:44 pmBrilliant! Oil will skyrocket to $200 a barrel, Exxon and Haliburton will be rich! Rich, I tell you. All hail the neo-fascists!
June 1st, 2006 at 3:44 pm“They will kill their party for the next 30 years if they invade Iran”
by lib4.
That’s right, but some GOP voters and office holder are just starting to wake up to the fact that these guys are no more about party than they are about promoting Christianity, or bagging gays, or what ever. They are all about themselves, and some whack vision of ruling the world, and they are most certainly about enriching themselves every chance they get. Talk about the “Me” generation. They may break off a bread crumb here and there by at least putting something like Gay marriage on the ballot, but when it comes to shaping laws and supreme court rulings, it’s about manipulating tax laws so they get to keep what they’ve stolen, it’s about promoting corporations over individuals, it’s about shilding their crimes from public knowledge. The only difference I see between GOP and Dems is that we must all read faster or something. The red folks will slowly come around, it just takes them longer.
If you want a really good cry, go read the Rolling Stone article:
June 1st, 2006 at 3:45 pmWas the 2004 Election Stolen
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
I am afraid we’re going to wake up one day and learn that the bombing has begun. No diplomacy, no congress, no UN, just bombs. These people are crazy enough to do it.
BTW, what’s the deal with recess appointments? Doesn’t his appointment expire soon and have to go back to the Senate?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:46 pmWell, Bush tried all the diplomacy he could. Time to send in the national guard.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:46 pmWhy is it that these p****ies can only appear on Fox News….
For supposedly macho tough guy Republicans they dont stray too far from the reservation…….
June 1st, 2006 at 3:48 pmWow, we have so much that needs to be taken care of here at home, and we’re about to blow it on ANOTHER military campaign of choice. What a waste.
I’m not an isolationist by any means, but this is goign to cause the defense budget to balloon further, and squeeze out a lot of very vital programs we need here.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:50 pmBut with that beard, he looks so grandfatherly. Grampa wouldn’t do anything rash. Grampa reads bedtime stories and smokes an old pipe by the fireplace, and calls Gramma “Ma” before going outside to chop some wood before he drinks a glass of milk then goes to bed at six.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:51 pmI am so tired of all of this tough-guy faux bravado from these right wing nutjobs. What purpose does saying that serve? Does he honestly believe that Iran is afraid of us?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:52 pmTHE US is updating contingency plans for a non-nuclear strike to cripple Iran’s atomic weapon programme if international diplomacy fails, Pentagon sources have confirmed.
Strategists are understood to have presented two options for pinpoint strikes using B2 bombers flying directly from bases in Missouri, Guam in the Pacific and Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean……..
The main plan calls for a rolling, five-day bombing campaign against 400 key targets in Iran, including 24 nuclear-related sites, 14 military airfields and radar installations, and Revolutionary Guard headquarters.
At least 75 targets in underground complexes would be attacked with waves of bunker-buster bombs.
Iranian radar networks and air defence bases would be struck by submarine-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles and then kept out of action by carrier aircraft flying from warships in the Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13066.htm
Updated…here;
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13458.htm
They have three aircraft carriedr groups on the way to the persian gulf…
Timeframe would be the next few weeks….
June 1st, 2006 at 3:55 pmThat’s what his ex wife said too.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:57 pmIs it January 20, 2009 at 12:01 pm yet?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:57 pmIf there is a god, then bolton will die a slow and agonizing death.
Maybe he already is; maybe it’s eating away at his insides that he is so hated. Maybe that’s what makes him so completely awful.
Ku ku ka chu…
June 1st, 2006 at 3:57 pmUgh, the ONLY reason Iran wants nukes is for self defence since we only invade countries who DON’T possess them. It’s the same “fear” that fueled the cold war. Your neighbor wouldn’t dare use them on you cause you’ll use them back. Stupid elementary school logic.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:59 pm“i normally try to be civil, but…”
He is not deserving of civility.
This should help lighten the mood:
June 1st, 2006 at 3:59 pm
With what military?
Is John Bolton hiding troops under that 70s porn star mustache?
And this is our UN Ambassador. Hey John, nice diplomacy there. Do you kiss your Secretary of State with that mouth?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:01 pmGrrrr. Stupid HTML. As I was saying, this should help lighten the mood:
http://www.loonie.dial.pipex.com/Bolton.mov
June 1st, 2006 at 4:02 pmBolton on the Fux Nutwork – the perfect combination of crap and toilet.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:04 pmhttp://www.thewashingtonnote.com/
June 1st, 2006 at 4:04 pmI posted this link on another thread, but since Bolten’s being all warm and fuzzy, I thought it was worth posting here as well.
Article re: Rice vs. Cheney/Bolten
#31–Where are the targetted sites? You would think that after Valerie Plame was outed everything got moved around.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:06 pmOh…Bolty…you just exude diplomacy. How…how…what a turn on.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:06 pmCaptain Kangaroo (Man with dark hair and white moustache) SEZ THIS TO BRING PROFIT TO THE OIL BARONS. What a crock Jail these TRAITORS!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:06 pmDeja vu- Iran = Iraq II
The test bomb in Nevada is now scheduled to be detonated on June 23rd. It was originally scheduled for tomorrow, but a local Indian tribe filed a lawsuit.
The attack on Iran will probably take place during the last week of June (25th-30th).
Bolton looks like a Nazi in the high command. They have to get this invasion going before his term is up. I believe it only lasts through the final working day of this congress- near the end of the year.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:07 pmHow about we just parachute Jon Bolton about 30 miles inside Pakistan off the Afganistan border & let Osama videotape what they do.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:10 pmIs it January 20, 2009 at 12:01 pm yet?
Comment by Curlew
963days, 8hrs, 50min…
June 1st, 2006 at 4:10 pmI’m completely terrified by these developments, especially if Hersh’s article is true & the neo-cons want to use bunker buster nukes. I can’t think of a more volatile scenario. Will Bush try this as a hail mary pass to (in his mind) salvage his reputation & leave a “legacy?”
completely terrified. . .
June 1st, 2006 at 4:12 pmTrueblue- I’m afraid that date is not even a guarantee that this nightmare will go away. I am of the firm opinion that these thugs will not go quietly or peacefully.
Eventually the people, well armed, will have to remove these unelected dictators from power.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:13 pmJohn Bolton looks like Captain Crunch.
Comment by Todd — June 1, 2006 @ 3:36 pm
That’s where I’ve seen him before! Saturday morning breakfast’s when I was 8… Only, I think he gave me a couple cavities…
June 1st, 2006 at 4:13 pmHow about we just parachute Jon Bolton about 30 miles inside Pakistan off the Afganistan border & let Osama videotape what they do.
Comment by kindness — June 1, 2006 @ 4:10 pm
Can we send Condi, Bushie, Cheney and Rummy along as well?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:15 pmhttp://www.backwardsbush.com/
June 1st, 2006 at 4:16 pmI got the time wrong by an hour.
Check it out!
We must all remember that these guys hadn’t a clue what kind of insurgency would happen in Iraq after we invaded and it appears we’re about to repeat the same mistake again.After these clowns bomb Iran they obviously expect the Iranians to sue for peace rather than pour across the border into Iraq (which is probably what will happen).After all, it’s easy to find lots of Americans in Iraq.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:17 pmIndependent,
I’m very afraid as well.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:18 pmWe desperately need to win and win big in November.
Anvilhead- I thought you were effectively quarantined to the Raw Story battleground. Too bad. Your neurosis is getting bad. I encourage you to sign up at your nearest military recruitment center before the action on Iran begins. Your Furher needs fresh blood for his new folly. The existing forces are stretched thin.
Your’e wasting your time here. Hurry and sign up!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:18 pmbushco needs to ramp up terror in the world so that george W. can justify consolidation of additional presidential powers. Attacks on Americans throughout the world would mean additional military activity by the “war president” and continued curtailment of personal freedoms in America. This prez is crazy enough to believe that he alone can “save” the USA from the awful threat of Iran. These clowns are all about using American military force to shape the world to their liking. War is not a negative prospect to them. . . something most Americans have yet to comprehend.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:18 pmASS-VILHEAD,
June 1st, 2006 at 4:20 pmWhat do possibly have to personally gain by invading Iraq, other than another excuse to shove your hands down your pants to play with Cap’n Willie while innocent blood is shed? That’s your idea of a turn on, right, you sick f*cker.
This brings to mind Hitler’s march through Europe. This will be Bush’s limp through the Middle East.
Those of us with children had better start finding hiding places because the draft is a comming!!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:20 pm#43, Actually, I was thinking Dr. Whovee from Horton Hears a Who.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:20 pmI have no doubt unilateral military action is on the table; I also have no doubt it will be an even more colossal mess than our current mess in Iraq. We may actually unite the world against us. Yes, Bush is a uniter, not a divider. Throw the bums out, as soon as possible.
#52 – That’s on my favorite list now. It’s just not moving fast enough…
June 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmTrueblue- A victory in November will have to include the destruction of electronic voting. Although right now it would be difficult to cheat enough to make up their deficits in the polls, Karl Rove is working on the e-voting fraud as we speak. He cannot be underestimated.
If this continues, armed conflict within these borders will be the only recourse.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmI don’t know about anyone else here, but when I see that face all I can think is —
Mustache rides $2
– and I’m so happy I don’t have $2.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:24 pmOK – oil prices, Iraq debacle, NSA spying, outing a CIA operative, Katrina debacle, 9/11, no-bid contracts, voting fraud, (what have I left off) – and now quite possibly an attack on Iran. Will the congress act now? Will the people of this country revolt now?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:26 pmYes, Bolton was a recess appointment, but his tenure is up when the new 110th Congress is sworn in sometime in January. Recess appointments only last until the next congress. That doesn’t meen BombCo will appoint him again if the Senate doesn’t jump on the heckuva job this guy has done.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:28 pmZoo, ickkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:28 pmSome diplomacy. Bolton needs an entire Dale Carnegie course.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:41 pm#65 – Isn’t it? I’m a sick woman. :P
June 1st, 2006 at 4:43 pmZoo,
June 1st, 2006 at 4:47 pmI like you anyway.
(Hell, I like the sick stuff, too! It makes me laugh!)
All the reasons the Bush Administration gave for invading Iraq that turned out to be wrong (they had direct ties to and BinLadin and 9/11, they supported and sheltered Al-Queda and other Islamic terrorist groups, and they were ready to go nuclear) do apply to Iran.
Iran IS an Islamic terrorist nation.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:48 pmIran IS building nuclear weapons (probably already have a half-dozen).
Iran supported and facilitated the 9/11 suicide terrorists.
Well, the’s the gauntlet being thrown.
Next Condi will speak to the UN and tell them about all the secret weapons labs that Rummy knows about.
Faux and the MSM will demand action.
Then we’ll surround the country and demand UN and IAE inspectors be given access (that will last about a month before they are told to leave for their safety by Bush)
Then Shucks and Awwwww. Instant quagmine.
Who could have seen this coming?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:52 pmI think the Bush administration lacks diplomacy, (QUITE) diplomacy. All that were getting from the President on down is angry, arguementative huffing and puffing. It seems that they lack statemenship at all levels. I,m afraid that the rest of the world looks at our leadership as imature to the point of being rude and crude with lack of content or meaning.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:52 pmWhen the day comes, and it will come, when these bastards are led out of the halls of power in chains and orange jumpsuits, my friends THAT will be a day of joy and celebration. I don’t want retribution — though they surely deserve it — little men like John Bolton will be consigned to the ignominy of history; I want to turn away from Bush and Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld, their craven enablers in the media, and the vichey in our own party — and think of them no more. THAT will be happy day, a day I will raise a glass to every year ever after until the day I die.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:53 pmBolton’s preposterous saber rattling is just the death rattle of the Bush administration. The Russians, the Chinese, well, practically everyone must just be sitting back laughing at the Chimp’s empty threats. La Douche Bag Rice is even funnier with her “measured response” nonsense on Lehrer. Don’t these fools understand that the ballgame is over and they lost?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:54 pmWhat is the liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons? Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:55 pmCaption:
Got Man Yogurt?
June 1st, 2006 at 4:56 pmHow many times is it going to take before we get it???
The writing is on the wall!!!
BOLTON: “We’re making a significant step here,†that will be criticized by many of the president’s staunchest supporters here at home. But he’s taking this step to show strength and American leadership and to say he’s willing to do something that may be unpopular even with some of his supporters…”
TRANSLATION: “We’re moving forward with the agenda laid out in PNAC whereby the United States is no longer a representative democracy/republic.” “for you conservative supporters who disagree with us, it’s been a nice ride, thanks for playing.”
TIME TO MAKE PLANS: (1) GET A PASSPORT AND (2) HAVE A PLAN TO LEAVE THE US FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR OWN LIVES.
Think I’m nuts? Ask the folks in Germany who kept telling themselves it would get better.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:00 pmI didn’t read the previous comments but to the trolls Anvilhead (perfect name) and Mr. Jerome, you better make sure your next paycheck from the RNC doesn’t bounce because you’re all washed up.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:00 pmHow many times is it going to take before we get it???
The writing is on the wall!!!
BOLTON: “We’re making a significant step here,†that will be criticized by many of the president’s staunchest supporters here at home. But he’s taking this step to show strength and American leadership and to say he’s willing to do something that may be unpopular even with some of his supporters…”
TRANSLATION: “We’re moving forward with the agenda laid out in PNAC whereby the United States is no longer a representative democracy/republic.” “for you conservative supporters who disagree with us, it’s been a nice ride, thanks for playing.”
TIME TO MAKE PLANS: (1) GET A PASSPORT AND (2) HAVE A PLAN TO LEAVE THE US FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR OWN LIVES.
Think I’m nuts? Ask the folks in Germany who kept telling themselves it would get better.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:01 pmSurrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
Comment by Randy — June 1, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
Yeah because Iraq, and Iran, and the rest of the Islamic world are so set on invading the US.
Gee lets see. Iran has years before they can even start to build a nuclear bomb. Technology sold to them by our good allies the pakistanis. The instant sabre rattling is hardly needed. If we can’t find a resolution in 8 years, then lets talk about military strikes.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pmPut up or shut up… that’s what they should have told him at his confirmation hearings when he wouldn’t provide all the requested documents.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pm#68 – trueblue, I’ve tried to stop, I really have. But Bolton pops on the screen and there it is. I’m glad you appreciate quality humor. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pmof course the option is not off the table, it never will be, thats the point of war, if things get bad ENOUGH you go to war, but thats not an outcome that should even be discussed in these stages…whats going to happen: war is going to go off the table, and then poof peace on earth? no, but as long as you are rattling sabers, and backing nations into a corner, its almost like prodding them – when do you stop? when they lash out and you put ‘em down…that is not the right course for iran (or iraq – see gwb plan to fly us planes with un markings)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:04 pmRandy – OK, I’ll bite – what army/marine corp units will be going into Iran. Becuase you cannot be stupid enough to believe there will not be gound fighting. Or can you?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:04 pmJP,
I actually have thought of what it would take to go to England, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Hell even Canada since it seems it’s gonna get mighty warm!
Problem is: What if your name shows up on the “No Fly List”? (by accident, I’m sure…just like Ted Kennedy…)
Then you’re stuck.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:05 pm– and I’m so happy I don’t have $2.
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 4:24 pm
You owe us each a brillo pad for that one… My skin is still crawling with repulsion… Damn Pippi.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:06 pmSeriously, this crap Bolton is spewing is our wake-up call. This cannot be allowed to happen. Invading Iraq will definitely be the end of us/US. If there was ever a time for protests in the streets, this is it.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:06 pm“Surrender to the Islamic World”
June 1st, 2006 at 5:08 pm????????????????
there is only one world view allowed? what are we the christian world? please! – if every nation is looking at one world order then we are doomed and might as well just shoot the ones we love in the head before turning the gun on ourselves, is that what you want Randy? do you want to go after world domination, i ain’t got your back, it seems we have too much land on our hands as it is and cannot protect our citizens effectively, what are we going to do in the middle east?
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What is the liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons? Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
Comment by Randy — June 1, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
How about actually listening to the IAEA and others like the Swiss who have brought proposals out of Iraq only to be rebuffed by Bush and Rice…
and having competent adult leadership ..not 14 year old macho ex drunk wanna bees trying to impress their shrinking base….
June 1st, 2006 at 5:09 pmDamn Pippi.
Comment by unbelievable
Ok, brillo pads all around, and I’ll throw in the bleach real cheap. But if a picture of Bolton ever shows up, you know where I’m going. Fair warning. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:09 pmBecuase you cannot be stupid enough to believe there will not be gound fighting. Or can you?
Comment by Jules — June 1, 2006 @ 5:04 pm
Think Bush and the invasion of Iraq. Pretty much the same idea. Pretty much the same assinine logic. Probably the same results – or worse. Randy is the definition of insanity personified…
Oh, by the way, I seem to have cured my Denny problem. Just needed the right hammer to whack it with. Apparently the one with the rubber end was too delicate… : )
June 1st, 2006 at 5:09 pmRandy,
Lets start by looking at what we are accusing them of. We are accusing them of persueing nuclear technology for the purpose of developing a nuclear weapon.
We also accused Saddam of having WMD, which he swore up and down that he did not. t turns out, that he was not lieing. Could it be that Iran is not lieing either? Why do you trust this administration at all?
The CIA has said that Iran is 10 years away from being able to produce a nuclear weapon.
This is not about their nuclear weapons. Just as Iraq was not about WMD. In 2000 Saddam started trading oil for Euro. Iran is starting to do the same thing now. Read this:
http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2006/01/23/the_iranian_oil_exchange_proposal.htm
“States are not moral agents.” – Chomsy
June 1st, 2006 at 5:10 pm#81, Zookeeper,
June 1st, 2006 at 5:10 pmYou should see me after a couple of Vodka/CranRaspberry’s.
Then all my diatribe of the “Y” chromosome kicks in!
But if a picture of Bolton ever shows up, you know where I’m going. Fair warning. ;)
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 5:09 pm
Fair enough. I’ll stay away. I’m an extremely visual person. That one hurt… In fact, bleach sounds good right now… :)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:13 pm#92 – It is my dearest wish to see & hear that, trueblue. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:14 pm#93 – Bleach is good for the gargle, too. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:16 pmOk, I’ll STOP!!!
But you know I’ll remember the visual thing, don’t you?
Then all my diatribe of the “Y†chromosome kicks in!
Comment by trueblue — June 1, 2006 @ 5:10 pm
Got any handy now? I’d be up for that one myself as well… :)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:17 pmBush will be swinging from a lamppost along with the rest of the US Government and its Corporate State Controlled Media if the USA pre emptively attacks Iran with Mini Nukes to Prevent them from uh building a nookular power plant. If we are going to bomb a nation in the Middle east with Nookular WMDS, that bullies its neighbors, that ignores the UN, then we should bomb the hell out of Israel. If the US and Israel gave up their Nukes, THEN called on the rest of the world to join them, I’d be right there. But lying to start a world war of conquest that we will lose, I say hang the bastards!
June 1st, 2006 at 5:21 pmBut you know I’ll remember the visual thing, don’t you?
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 5:16 pm
Well, I thought we’d established that when you started with the brillo pad bit?
Something like 9 out of 10 people are visual. And I’d guess that applies to most people who type as a form of communication?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:21 pmVarious CIA analysts like Ray Mcgovern have said don’t be surprised if all the sudden you see a suspiciously convenient terror attack on the US or allies, blamed on Iran if the congress or public isnt buying the invasion plans. They lied about the “Jews have to wear identification” story, they lied about Iran making nukes…and I say if a terrorist attack does happen thats blamed on “al Qaeda” or Iran…I know exactly who to blame.
People are finally seeing the total insanity the neocons are willing to go to here with sabre rattling Iran, or lying to get into Afghanistan and Iraq. You really think its so proposterous to think that the US knew full well about 9/11 and allowed it to happen? And covered up Pakistani ISI funding? I think not.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:22 pmSo this is the US’s example of how to solve problems with others? Kindergardeners on their first day of school are better prepared to solve problems with others. What’s that list “everything I need to know I learned in Kindergarden”? or something like that.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:23 pmIs that his mustache or did he eat a skunk?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:24 pmSurrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
Comment by Randy — June 1, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
Wouldn’t we have to be under attack by the Islamic world for us to surrender? And yet, here we are, blogging away…..
June 1st, 2006 at 5:24 pmThat hole with the mutant caterpillar above it. Or is it baleen to assist in the bottom feeding?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:25 pmZookeeper, Unbelievable:
Performance Anxiety!! Ahhh!!
June 1st, 2006 at 5:28 pm:)
Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
Comment by Randy — June 1, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
Wouldn’t we have to be under attack by the Islamic world for us to surrender? And yet, here we are, blogging away…..
Comment by ann
Oh that doesnt matter. They are one bomb away from surrendering anyway. One more 911 and we just might have to surrender and let them all come have our houses and malls.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:28 pmunfortunately we will have this asshat at the UN till the recess appointment expires, when the new congress takes over in 2007 =P
June 1st, 2006 at 5:34 pm$10 to the first person who pulls his cheezy mustache off and shoves it down his throat.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:35 pm“Put up or Shut up”. Very fine diplomatic dialogue there Mr. B.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:37 pmPlan of attack: Timeline.
Secret insurgencies like MEK and US Special Ops Map out nuclear facilities, sabotage currently under way
“2 B-2 Bombers invade and dispach supposidly accurate bombs on indicated sites
Other aircraft take out Iranian air defenses.
Cruise missiles fired from US Navy at sea
Iran counters with “Whale” high speed torpedoes, anti aircraft (what’s left)
Muslim allies and other factions activate
Worldwide terrorist attacks on American interists and allies
Iran oil disrupted and world oil supplies restricted
OPEC raises oil prices
Russia and China intervene
World grows tired of US incursions into other nations
America isolated with $4.00 plus gasoline
Bush continues his follies with Iraq and Iran now doubled in war problems
Armageddon
Rapture
Just what these “End Days” folks wanted.
WORDS SPOKEN BY A MAD MAN. Bolton is a sick man who needs medical help just don’t go to Dr. Quack aka Senator Frist.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:38 pmIf tomorrow Iran says it will disband all nu Q lure research and operations then what would be next on the U.S. pretext list for invading and controlling Iran’s oil production?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:38 pmwomens rights?anti- Israeli? terrorist sponsors? It does not matter to them.
What is the liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons? Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it?
Comment by Randy
Easy.
Israel gives up there nukes and America will not do bad things to them like no more money.
Iran gives up their nukes and America will not do bad things to them like bombs.
Rest of middle east signs on to a peace deal with Israel and Iran so that neither Iran nor Israel has to make nuclear bombs… or else America does bad things to them like more invasions and more attention into their religious backing of terrorism.
There ya go… America gets to make threats AND we give everyone else a good and fair reason to not have nukes…. and without nuking anyone ourselves…! Wow that took 5 mintues…
Anyone want to come up with another… theres got to be hundreds of combinations that is better than Randys “I GOT NO FREAKIN IDEA! LETS BOMB THEM!”
June 1st, 2006 at 5:40 pmCan’t we just take away “the tabke”? If there were no table, then we wouldn’t have to worry about whether Dubya thinks things are on or off “the table”..
June 1st, 2006 at 5:44 pmTRueBlue,
What kind of performance are you talking about?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:46 pmprison planet
June 1st, 2006 at 5:46 pm“…and i dont know if anyone has already noticed this, but aside from being nuts, John Bolton looks like Captain Crunch.”
No way. He looks like Captian Kangaroo.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:47 pmBolton is an asshole.
The Senate needs to fire him in 2007.
Condi Rice is a bitch.
These two are both incompetent.
Get ready for WW3.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:48 pmFor Truth,
June 1st, 2006 at 5:52 pmZookeeper and Unbelievable wanted me to start my diss of the “Y” chromosome.
I haven’t gotten myself liquored up yet!
See the posts above.
We were just “saying Hi” to each other in our own way! :)
#104 – Sorry. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:53 pmI just forgot this wasn’t the open thread. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 5:57 pmWell, my guess is US gov is really scared because they dont find the hold on nothing: Afghanistan, Iraq, North Korea, Venezuela, etc. US invaded IRAQ precisely because Saddam lacked nukes.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:01 pmDoes US has invaded countries with nukes???? I dont think so…but what about BIG, SCARY countries like Nicaragua, Vietnam, Somalia, Granade, Panama, etc…?
My guess is this: Iran = WMD, then US bluff as with North Korea.
Iran = no WMD, then there comes a liberation op for the sake humanity, true values, high moral standards against evil doers…
TrueBlue,
Ohhhhh, I see, an inside situation way above my “Y” chromosome “head”. I hope I supplied more ammo for ya here! You must be out east. Getting liquered up now is kinda early for me, 3pm-ish.
Zoo already had one or two?
June 1st, 2006 at 6:04 pmI just forgot this wasn’t the open thread. ;)
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 5:57 pm
Apparently, even the open thread isn’t. I got an email from IRI. Apparently he can post, but he’s the only one who can see it. Yet lunatics like Denny and Santo have no problem. I’m confused… Aren’t we the inclusive people? Free speech and the right to be an idiot? Just skip over the posts by peole you don’t want to read? When did that change?
I’m disappointed. I thought we were bigger than the Red State crowd…
June 1st, 2006 at 6:09 pmFor Truth,
So you’re a guy?
Oops. Sorry.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:10 pm(Hey, did you know the Y chromo is shrinking -so to speak? It has the least amt. of genes of any other chromo.)
Couldn’t help myself! ;-)
Yes I’m out east, Cape Cod. (yack…)
Red State deletes all dissenting opinions. We need to just delete the crazy lunatics like I-RIGHT-I and ANVILHEAD. These guys don’t want to debate, they want to antagonize. Speaking of antagonizing, he is another that could go away. Same with mighty aphrodite. These people are loonies. Gary Rupert anybody?
June 1st, 2006 at 6:14 pmMighty Aphrodite:
Dear Foreign Policy Neophytes – Hopefully, Iran will be persuaded to preserve their country and population….
Oh, my dear!… “Mighty Aphrodite” here is going to fly over Iran, squat, and take a big dump on them….
In all seriousness, can anyone think of anything more lawless that bombing Iran??? But can anyone think of any other way that the numbnutz in charge will come up with to try and save their political a$$? They’re a one-trick pony, and we all saw what they did last time around … well, all except some 2471 of us….
Cheers,
June 1st, 2006 at 6:16 pmThis man is not a diplomat, he is a recess appointment. So John, the words for you is SHUT UP YOU IDIOT! W has all our troops tied up in a needless war in Iraq. How many young Americans do you want killed? Talk about hating America, this guy leads the packalong with that 29% that drink the Kool Aid as prepared by Faux News.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:19 pmWow, my english really sucks!
June 1st, 2006 at 6:21 pmRed State deletes all dissenting opinions.
But how is this different?
We need to just delete the crazy lunatics like I-RIGHT-I and ANVILHEAD.
Neither of them is as serious as you take them. How is that their fault?
Personally, when I want to debate with them, I read tehir posts and respond. When I don’t. I skip them. ANVILHEAD types in all caps and I-RIGHT-I types in bold. Easy enough.
These guys don’t want to debate, they want to antagonize. Speaking of antagonizing, he is another that could go away. Same with mighty aphrodite. These people are loonies. Gary Rupert anybody?
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 1, 2006 @ 6:14 pm
I’m wholly against any form of censorship – unless it is threatening. It goes against what being a liberal is supposed to mean. The right to be opposing.
Isn’t that what you fought for when you were in teeh miltary? The Constitutional right to freedom of speech? I don’t recall the part where it says “unless yo don;t want to hear it”.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:30 pm#123,
TrueBlue,
Now how would I get a vasectomey if I wasn’t a guy. The story is true. I really wondered if the person who shaved my balls was a Republican.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:30 pmOh Yeah, For Truth!
(I was really tired last night.) That was true??? OUCH!
Unbelievable,
June 1st, 2006 at 6:38 pmLast night’s ThinkFast: Someone named I lovethegirl or something like that posted a link to a raw story comment section. It was scary. Santo was nuts.
The only highlight was when someone posted, in response to santo’s love affair with caps:
LOUD NOISES!!
-Brick Tamlin
(see Anchorman)
Bolton: “Put up or shut up time for Iran”…
To this administration, war is diplomacy. From Think Progress:[U.N. AMBASSADOR JOHN] BOLTON: And I think when the President says it’s unacceptable, I think what he means by that is that it’s unacceptable. So it’s important… CAVUTO: But unacceptabl…
June 1st, 2006 at 6:39 pmNo worries TrueBLue, it doesn’t hurt as bad as it feels.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:41 pm# 2 JAJAJAJA
June 1st, 2006 at 6:45 pmwhat a blood thirsty nation Americans are
I say so what even if they are developing a bomb – Id rather they have one than america and what gives you the god damm right to to even threaten iran with one
also fed up with american attitude ” do what we want or we all get blown up”
what kind of moranic thinking place is the us …lets all get rid of the bomb
June 1st, 2006 at 6:48 pmArghh But America will lose its trumpcard …stuff you lot
Why do they still shave?
Talk about itchy!
So I guess you’re a left-coaster? (Where I want to be…)
June 1st, 2006 at 6:48 pmBlix condemns ‘militaristic’ US
A former UN weapons inspector has urged Iran and Israel to end their nuclear activities and criticised the US for seeking militaristic remedies to disagreements.
The recommendation was one of 60 put forward in a report prepared by the 14-member Weapons of Mass Destruction Commission, an initiative of the Swedish government set up in 2003.
Hans Blix, who led the UN search for chemical, biological and nuclear weapons in Iraq before the US-led invasion, presented the report to Kofi Annan, the UN secretary-general.
The report said US leadership was crucial in halting the spread of nuclear weapons.
“If it takes the lead, the world is likely to follow. If it does not take the lead, there could be more nuclear tests and new nuclear arms races,” Blix said in the introduction to the report.
Yet Blix said that the US had “looked more to its own military power for remedies” instead of strengthening international treaties and institutions.
LINK HERE
June 1st, 2006 at 6:50 pmTrueBlue,
What else could that Republican have done to remove hair from the scrotum? I assumed some type of shaver. I don’t think it was Nair. Itchy yes, for a week.
I live in Northern AZ, in the mountains, lots of Righty’s, Fords, Chevys, etc. I would like to go to Northern CA, but way too expensive.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:52 pmNo its not time for Iran to put up or shut up
Its time for america just to get lost and leave the rest of the world alone -g get lost the lot of you
June 1st, 2006 at 6:53 pm“Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” – Isaac Asimov
The real question here isn’t whether or not the administration is hell-bent on bombing and possibly deploying nuclear weapons against Iran.
The real question is whether or not we’re going to stand for it.
Time’s running out, and soon thousands of innocent lives will be extinguished – if we don’t act quickly, that is.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:54 pmg get lost the lot of you
Comment by Tobey tall — June 1, 2006 @ 6:53 pm
http://www.redstate.org Go there. Those are the people who agree with the Bush Regime and need to be yelled at. We’re the folks who disagree – not the ones you should be insulting. We agree with you on this. Why we are here.
It’s really not America. It’s our corrupt government. Just like Saddam didn’t represent the Iraqi people, neither does the Bush Regime represent Americans.
June 1st, 2006 at 6:56 pmI would like to go to Northern CA, but way too expensive.
Comment by For Truth — June 1, 2006 @ 6:52 pm
I can vouch for that. Left there last year because I was going into debt – on living expenses. Plus, honestly, the culture wasn’t the best match for a gal who grew up in the South. I miss some things about it and not others – especially $6 a box for cereal…
June 1st, 2006 at 6:58 pmBrilliant! Oil will skyrocket to $200 a barrel, Exxon and Haliburton will be rich! Rich, I tell you. All hail the neo-fascists!
After watching The Corporation last night last night, my quick guess is that this is a great time for him to get loud … so his oil trading buddies can make a dime.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:01 pmI would pay good american money to burn that damn mustache off that freak’s face, one hair at a time.
Hey Mr. Bolton, tell us again about the cuban biological weapons program.
What an Ass-Clown.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:03 pmYou gave IRI your email address? Wait for it….unbelievable!!
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 6:55 pm
Other way around at first. I emailed him something during a discussion because I couldn’t post a photo.
In reality he is a nice person who has manners and is normal. Sometimes we swap jokes or have a conversation. I think he’s funny. He just gets carried away in here because he thinks there’s no point to real debate with the opposition – which I’ve begun to understand why – so it’s better to be extreme to get people to the middle to make his point. He’s really a moderate conservative – except for the religious stuff – then he’s a little zealous. But at least he’s coherent…
June 1st, 2006 at 7:08 pmFor the latest “progress” in Iraq. Check out jsg.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:10 pm#148 – The sperm donor? You’re such a kind person, I call mine the “Asshole at the Center of the Universe” or “Twat,” but never in the presence of my boys, because I have standards. Not high standards, obviously, but standards nonetheless.
G’night all!
June 1st, 2006 at 7:11 pm(aka: the sperm donor. There you go, Zoo & Unbelievable…!)
Comment by trueblue — June 1, 2006 @ 7:04 pm
At least he donated an X :)
June 1st, 2006 at 7:11 pm#149 – I will take your word for it, my dear Salma. Good luck with that!
June 1st, 2006 at 7:12 pmGodamit: My white moustache is worth more than your brown moustache!
June 1st, 2006 at 7:23 pmI’ve already said that you shouln’t be more than you believe because it hurts to be what you are! Get a life!
I am so sick and disgusted of lying Bush and his henchmen specially when they say we have to sacrifice for freedom. What the hell is or has Bushy boy ever, I mean ever in his life sacrificed for our great nation or for anyone? ABSOLUTLY NOTHING. They have sent our brave soldiers to die for a lie and they are still willing to do it yet again, because it is not going to be their kids, brothers, sisters or any of their friends. Yet they are willing to sacrifice what others love but not what they love. It turns my stomach every single time a lying Bush utters the word SACRIFICE.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:37 pmgang : a speculative page from the recent history of the future
So bush & co bomb iran.
Folks are so freaked out there’s a national strike (has anyone else proposed this?)
We did it in ‘70, when the Nix & the Kiss invaded Cambodia (you could look it up).
Bush flips & declares martial law, suspends constitution, elections, supersizing & casual fridays.
and then?
how’s about: National Guard, feeling burned by their misuse in Iraq, refuses to enforce.
Career military, knowing he lacks all legitimacy, prys his crazed trembling hands from the levers of power in a constitutional coup.
or?
June 1st, 2006 at 7:50 pmAll those shilling for attacking Iran should be charged with conspiracy to commit mass murder. All those who planned, backed or shilled for the Iraq invasion should be charged with 1250,000 counts of premeditated murder as well as crimes against humanty.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:51 pmI will take your word for it, my dear Salma. Good luck with that!
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 7:12 pm
Don’t you have friends who are conservatives? Same thing really. Though I have one who is worse than him actually…
As for Santo – well, I only hope she’s somewhere with bars :)
June 1st, 2006 at 7:53 pmI’d say this is “put up or shut up time” for Bolton and the U.S. If they blow these talks then I hope Iran does acquire a nuke. You know, just to shove it in JB’s face.What a little freak.
http://www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
Hadith: The cover-up continues.
Right now on LCL
http://www.sunstateactivist.org
June 1st, 2006 at 8:01 pmSays Randy: What is the liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons?
Randy, is this your real name? Bolten looks jolly randy to me, too, mate!
He’s sooo randy today. Just look at his moustache… Y’all american perverts.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:03 pmI’m wholly against any form of censorship – unless it is threatening. It goes against what being a liberal is supposed to mean. The right to be opposing.
Isn’t that what you fought for when you were in teeh miltary? The Constitutional right to freedom of speech? I don’t recall the part where it says “unless yo don;t want to hear itâ€.
Comment by unbelievable — June 1, 2006 @ 6:30 pm
Right on!
June 1st, 2006 at 8:06 pmZookeeper, Unbelievable,
Oh Yeah.
We definately need to get together!!
Some fun WILL be had!
As far as “the sperm donor, he is totally in love with his daughter, so how could I hate him? We actually laugh a lot together. My real diatribe is with “Voldemort.” Yup. That’s what my daughter and I call him. Alphabetized his faults…
A-moral
Bipolar, etc
not that I’m bitter…
June 1st, 2006 at 8:08 pm:-)
Revolution/coup against the Criminal Bush Regime is on the table too.
Certainly, the public doesn’t _want_ to entertain these ideas, but if Bush steps over the line with Iran, he’s asking for it.
An attack on Iran by Bush is an attack on America as far as I’m concerned.
And America, its Constitution and its values *will* be defended.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:20 pmThe Republicans are unconcerned with how they behave becasue they’ve now mastered cheating their way into Presidency twice. With Diebold and ESS by their side, waging wars that Americans disapprove of is immaterial. Watch November, how all those exit polls were wrong!!!
June 1st, 2006 at 8:38 pmSorry Zoo,
Didn’t mean to insinuate you are drinking at work, just kidding with ya!
June 1st, 2006 at 8:45 pmSorry Zoo,
Didn’t mean to insinuate you are drinking at work, just kidding with ya!
Interesting that Unbeleivable is corresponding with IRI, as a counselor, it’s difficult not to “make anything of it”.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:46 pmTypical of some women, they act like they are disgusted with the bad boys, but in the end, they go for the bad boys. Huh Unbeleivable.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:48 pmhey unbelievable,
i have friends that are conservatives, and none of them talks to me like an absolute right-wing buttlicker like i-r-i. my conservative friends tend to be people that are, you know, coherent, respectful, somewhat open-minded…
what i-r-i does here is immature and contemptiable. if he wanted people to know he is a “moderate conservative” as you say, he’d act like it. how can you trust someone that, under the guise of an internet persona, acts like someone they’re not? not exactly what i want in a pen pal.
and the fundy christian nonsense is where i draw the line. i am open-minded to almost anything, but fundamentalism of any sort is anathema to humankind and we should really, as a society, decide it’s best to treat those people as pariahs. when you look at how they’d have our society (a theocracy), it’s easy to conclude that they are enemies of democracy, freedom and self-expression.
you’ve actually convinced me that i-r-i deserves more abuse and derision than i normally give him.
thanks.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:49 pmLMFAO!!!!! :) :)
June 1st, 2006 at 8:54 pmI suppose Iran could, in the face of this nonsense, quote Bush’s doctrine on preemptive warfare in the case of threats to ” ‘national’ ’security’ “. It is fitting now for Iran to start sinking carriers in the Gulf, and moving its troops westward. This moustachioed idiot Bolton is pretext enough to attack the USA. Hell, Olmert’s joke about Bolton is pretext enough to sizzle that shitty little country on the mediteranean coast.
in the face of a country spying on its citizens, causing untold misery around the world because of its greed, interfering with other countries politics, converting to islam is looking more and more attractive each day. in the end it may even result in a freer life than what most in the west have. at least with islam one gets virgins after death. in the west we are assured of nothing except nihilism preceded by taxes.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:56 pm#165 – That’s ok, ForTruth, emotional blackmail is a specialty of mine, just ask trueblue. ;)
#162 – treublue, if my ex was like that with my sons, I’d like him a lot more, but letting 2.5 years go by without seeing them just gets me a little cranky.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:00 pmThey used to assassinate slimy amoebic skinbags like this prick, has noone in the JEWSA got a backbone anymore ?
If not you all deserve what you get ….
June 1st, 2006 at 9:10 pmIf we reserve the right for pre-emptive war then so does Iran and/or anyone else for that matter.
If war to prevent war is morally just or fits in what some to right refer to as a “Just War Theory” then Iran would be in the right to invade Iraq and eliminate the U.S. forces there, or to invade Israel.
If the U.S. is going to have nuclear weapons, and threaten other nations with them, in this case particularly, Iran, then Iran has the right to develop them and threaten us with them.
There is no such thing as a “just” war, or a war with some kind of high moral standard. No war is “just.” And for those to the right or left who think WWII or the Civil War were “just” then I urge you to go back and read your history books.
“States are not moral agents.” – Chomsky
June 1st, 2006 at 9:14 pmOh Yeah, For Truth, re: #171
Zookeeper is an expert!!!!
She even got a fellow “Emo Blackmailer” aka “mother”!!
It was funny!
(If your “Y” brain doesn’t get it, I can explain further…….!!)
See, NOW I’ve had a couple of drinks!! I’m Ornery!
June 1st, 2006 at 9:22 pmInteresting that Unbeleivable is corresponding with IRI, as a counselor, it’s difficult not to “make anything of itâ€.
Comment by For Truth — June 1, 2006 @ 8:46 pm
How do you mean? We talk occasionally. Not bestfriends. Just both like politics, and to argue.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:33 pmyou’ve actually convinced me that i-r-i deserves more abuse and derision than i normally give him.
Comment by Progressaurus Rex — June 1, 2006 @ 8:49 pm
I’m sure he can handle it. He usually does.
And – for the record – if any of ya’ll got censored, I’d pull out my soapbox for you as well. It’s not just him. It’s the free speech issue.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:46 pmKnow what, Unbelievable,
I bet you’re one of those teachers kids remember long after they’ve left your classroom.
You really seem like an awesome person.
Glad to cyber-know you!
June 1st, 2006 at 9:54 pmTypical of some women, they act like they are disgusted with the bad boys, but in the end, they go for the bad boys. Huh Unbeleivable.
Comment by For Truth — June 1, 2006 @ 8:48 pm
Let’s clear this up. 80% of my friends are guys. I grew up with brothers and I’m not maternal. Most women want to talk about men, babies and what other women are wearing. I want to talk about politics, the environment, religion, history, architecture, etc. The women in here are all exceptions – or they wouldn’t be here. But, for the most part, I am more comfortable around men. It doesn’t mean I want to date all or, lately, any of them.
I actually don’t like bad boys. Never have. The majority of my boyfriends have been nice guys. The ones who weren’t lied in the beginning :).
Can we move past this now? Thanks.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:54 pm#It troubles me that one of our country’s chief diplomats has such a god-awful mustache. Mrs. Bolton, how do you let him leave the house in the morning looking like that?
Comment by The Pittsburgh Kid — June 1, 2006 @ 3:41 pmAnd wtf kind of dead animal is that on his head? Gawd, the man is an a**holes’ a**hole.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:00 pmthese guys couldnt give 2 craps about the g.o.p.they hijacked the party right under your nose while you were snoozing.unfotunately you evil little scumbags,you cant take the money with you when you die.the day eisenhower left the white house they cicked it in hi gear,greedy little federalist that they are and always will be,they went to work at their dream of a better america , like or not.eisenhower warned us about these people,the milatary complex,but as usual we hate to follow good advice.our forefathers are rolling in their graves watching the american corp. takeover in action,what do you think they would say about the traitors that are running our beloved country.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:00 pmYou really seem like an awesome person.
Glad to cyber-know you!
Comment by trueblue — June 1, 2006 @ 9:54 pm
So you get happy when you drink, huh? :) My youngest brother loves everyone after a few beers. You’re too funny.
Thanks. People either like me or dislike me – not many are indifferent. I’d have to say that I’m very fortunate that the ones who do like me are pretty awesome people. Even poor misunderstood IRI.
You, Zoo, Cyra, Lora, Sharon Cox and Jules make me proud to be a woman. If only we could get the rest of our gender to stop looking in the compact mirror and start thinking about our society and the world again… :)
June 1st, 2006 at 10:01 pmTHAT’s where all the “Nice Guys” are!
Unbelievable is HOARDING them!!!!!!
;-)
June 1st, 2006 at 10:02 pmBreaking NEWS.
Another murder by Marines in Iraq in April of this year.
The Marines apparently pulled a man from his home and murdered him.
Then they made his body look like an insurgent.
This is SEPERATE from the Haditha incident.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:04 pmbut letting 2.5 years go by without seeing them just gets me a little cranky.
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 9:00 pm
I’ll repeat myself – it’s a good thing you’re also their father figure… :)
June 1st, 2006 at 10:05 pmUnbelievable is HOARDING them!!!!!!
Comment by trueblue — June 1, 2006 @ 10:02 pm
Just as friends. You want me to introduce you? :) I don’t know any in your neck of the woods at present…
June 1st, 2006 at 10:07 pmThis is SEPERATE from the Haditha incident.
Comment by FLAVIUS WORFEUS — June 1, 2006 @ 10:04 pm
This is why I hate HATE… never leads to anything but destruction and inhuman behavior. If this isn’t Vietnam Redux now, I dread to know what is…
There will be ramifications for this. I’m not afraid of much – but this worries me. Damn retarded chimpanzee in teh White House needs to be removed. NOW.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:10 pmYou really seem like an awesome person.
Glad to cyber-know you!
Comment by trueblue — June 1, 2006 @ 9:54 pm
So you get happy when you drink, huh? :) My youngest brother loves everyone after a few beers. You’re too funny.
No, mostly I get goofy!
Observant as well… you DO seem like a good teacher…
…”I Love You. Man…!”
Ok, bedtime!
June 1st, 2006 at 10:11 pmAnother note on this breaking News Story.
This one happened in Hamandiyah in April of this year, and involved one victim and several Marines.
It is also important to note that the marines involved in this murder have ALL been CHARGED, and are under ARREST and imprisoned here in a US Brig.
This is real.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:11 pm…â€I Love You. Man…!â€
Ok, bedtime!
Comment by trueblue — June 1, 2006 @ 10:11 pm
Ditto :) On both counts – bedtime for me too…
June 1st, 2006 at 10:15 pmI have read the posts on this site and I can only say that your stupidity is breathtaking. You all need to know Islamic terrorists do not want to talk to you, they want to hack your head off with a rusty sword.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:17 pmooohhhhh,
nice warm and fuzzy for the end of the night, Gary (R)
most people simply want to co-exist.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:22 pmToo bad Idiot Boy can’t seem to grasp that concept…..
Thanks for playing…….
Gary go back to the backwash side of life…
June 1st, 2006 at 10:24 pm#190 – *raspberry*
June 1st, 2006 at 10:26 pmIt’s payback time for these Iranian bastards!!! We can use neutron bombs to put so much radiation at their suspected nuke sites, that, no living creature can survive! We need to put mushroom clouds on the front pages of every muslim newspaper around the world with the caption, “Jihad THIS – motherf**kers! These bastards will be like FIDO and HEEL – real quick! I say nuke ‘em and be done with it! F**k ‘em.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:26 pm#188 – I bet we’ll be seeing more of these, it’s terrible. Where are you reading about this?
June 1st, 2006 at 10:28 pmDrew Mackenzie note of tags reverberates across spit wad aragance of momentary self praise.
Seen in the news seen in the streets, and witnessed if not spewed in grater or lesser degrees at home by us all .
Sad state of -
June 1st, 2006 at 10:28 pmSick and getting sicker
[...] John Bolton speaking yesterday: That’s why he says no option is taken off the table. But it’s also why he has, the President, has reached out President Putin and other leaders in the past couple of days to say, “We’re making a significant step here,” that will be criticized by many of the president’s staunchest supporters here at home. But he’s taking this step to show strength and American leadership and to say he’s willing to do something that may be unpopular even with some of his supporters, to remove all excuses from Iran and its supporters to say, “We went the extra mile. We gave Iran really, this last chance to show that they are serious when they say they don’t want nuclear weapons.” This is put or shut up time for Iran. [...]
June 1st, 2006 at 10:32 pmLike the stupid , bratty, spoiled little suck-ass child that you are America. Your leaders are so ready to sacrifice more of your children and has declared war on the world and not just Iran, cause the world doesn’t believe you anymore. After you dump more uranium in the oil rich lands, your sweet loving neo-con’s will without a doubt set up mock terror attacks all over America and like the S**T-Heads you are, will vent your fury and rage on everyone else, killing more babies and shooting more children so Cheney and his bros can die wealthy.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:34 pmThank God the very second BushCheneyCo nuke Iran, China and Russia throw everything in their nuclear (and nonconventional) arsenal at the US which will put it out of its rabid hateful anti-Christian misery.
Evil Empires fall hard, and Amerika’s IMMEDIATE future is as a very large glowing black cinder.
Give Adolf our love, BushCo…
June 1st, 2006 at 10:36 pm#So bush & co bomb iran.
Folks are so freaked out there’s a national strike (has anyone else proposed this?)Bush flips & declares martial law, suspends constitution, elections, supersizing & casual fridays.
and then?
how’s about: National Guard, feeling burned by their misuse in Iraq, refuses to enforce.
Career military, knowing he lacks all legitimacy, prys his crazed trembling hands from the levers of power in a constitutional coup.
or?
Comment by rob chalfen — June 1, 2006 @ 7:50 pm
This has crossed my mind since the idea of going after Iran surfaced and the retired generals asked for rummie’s head. Those guys are speaking what a lot of the uniformed high command are probably thinking and I really don’t know how much further they can be pushed by the civilian leadership. Resigning’s not an option because rummie would just find some tools to put stars on (and they exist, don’t they Generals Myers and Boykin?) to carry out Cheney’s policies and the carnage would continue, probably even worse than now. What’s left but to stay on and try to mimimize the damage?
As much as I appreciated hearing the generals rip rummie (and by extension junior and shooter) it chilled me and highlighted just how bad things are for democracy and constitutional government, that our military has been so used and abused that the generals felt compelled to criticize the civilian leadership like this. It’s unprecendented, and I feel that we’re heading into uncharted territory now.
And a random thought: if the administration feels that it doesn’t have to obey the law, why should anyone else? It’s not a long step from that to feeling that removing an outlaw administration would justify illegally acting against it. A coup, however, wouldn’t be constitutional, far from it: I think it would be the death blow for our system of civilian leadership of the miltary, which is based on mutual trust between the uniformed and civilian sides. After a coup that would be gone forever. We’d become Argentina.
Just my little tinhat moment…….
June 1st, 2006 at 10:50 pmGiven the fact that our ground troops are still committed in Iraq, and with our limited and somewhat depleted ground personnel and material, presumably air power and missles fired from ships would be our main means of attacking Iran if the US decided upon that option. These methods attacking Iran would have to be behind the “put up or shut up” threat, probably combined with an assumption that weapons and troops used overall would be joint in cooperation with other nations. Hopefully it will never come to that, and hopefully diplomatic and economic incentives will work to remove the nuclear threat posed by Iran. Unlike Iraq, a botched quagmire, Iran could, if nuclear armed, prove to be such a threat to world peace that joint military action by the West might become the only rational option. Those appalled by the idea of pre-emptive strike by the West against Iran should bear in mind that Iran is well documented as a financier of Hezbollah and Hamas and various terrorist acts of the past. State-sponsored terrorism has clearly been part of Iran’s history. Additionally their leadership appears to be irrational and unworldly and lacking civility. The boast by Iran to entirely destroy Israel is far more provocative than the words “put up or shut up” by a US Ambassador to the U.N.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:50 pm#195 Thanks for your deep thought, Gary. Let’s see – this thread is about Iranian nuclear talks, so your talking point means what exactly:
1. All Iranians are terrorists
June 1st, 2006 at 10:52 pm2. All Iranians want to hack off my head
3. The Iranians are really whacked for spending all that money building a bomb, when they could just hack my head off with a machete for the price of one air ticket
4. All of the above
#202 I think his point was that Islamic Terrorists don’t take very good care of their swords, let them get rusty and cruddy instead of oiling them before they whack off someone’s head.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:57 pmballpark if Iran is a sponsor of so many terrorists and we attack them with air and naval assests what do you think about 100,000 terrorist jihadists would do to the western countries?
June 1st, 2006 at 10:58 pm#206, what’s your point? All state sponsors of terrorism should be preemptively attacked? Lucky for you, the Cubans, the Venezuelans, the Nicaraguans and so on, don’t have the B2s eh? Hamas, a legitimately elected government, just like the IRA now – are you up for preemptively bombing Ireland too, since the IRA opposed a US ally? And as for Hizbollah? An organization that grew up in opposition to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon? Sure some Marines paid dearly for their presence in the middle of the Lebanese civil war, but does that and Khobar Towers make up for the CIA led 1953 coup that gave Iran over to the Shah and to SAVAK. Read some history Ballhawk, this isn’t High Noon with black hats and white hats. This is realpolitik, not a Chuck Norris film.
And I put it to you that the Iranians are perfectly rational, don’t mistake Mr Ahmadinejad for being the real power in Iran and don’t assume the rest of them of whacked. They are playing the Great Game to win and doing very well at it from what I can see.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:11 pm#171
TrueBlue,
I fall for it every time.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:11 pmUnbeleivable,
It just struck me as odd, kinda like consorting with the enemy. But in the bigger picture, that’s cool, it seems we can get in a weird space when discussing politics.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:13 pmMr.Bolton forgets himself. He is merely a ‘recess-appointed’ man, who could not even get out of a Republican majority held committee, to be given the infamous “up or down’ vote that the Right is so fond of. And it’s not like he was a Supreme Court nominee, either. And the U.N.is well aware of his ” who cares what you all think?” placement by a pouting GWB. And Mr.Bolton mistakenly acts as though he is the Ambassador to Iran, which he is not, WHEW!! And this stupid list of demands that BushCo expects Iran to cave in on, umm.. it is the uranium enrichment that is what these ‘negotiations’ are supposed to be about. But BushCo, in it’s predictably stupid way, wants Iran to give it up, before they will even talk to them. Dream on, people. They aren’t as stupid as you seem to think they are. And it is quite an insult to the people of Iran, to keep insisting that they want weapons of mass destruction, when that is only what you want to believe, not what is true. But the truth has never mattered to BushCo. And it still doesn’t. And the U.N. knows it too. This “Mad Dog” needs a muzzle, and a choke-chain, ASAP! Maybe ‘debarking’ as well?
June 1st, 2006 at 11:16 pmNo terry but a different point…we are going after Iran for weapons they might have in the future…and other fundemental islamists have shown they could do a severe damage with a few people and the jihad mindset…so if we attack Iran what might they do in retailiation for those attacks with 100,000 really mad jihadists…
June 1st, 2006 at 11:16 pmAs a totally disenfranchised Amerikan citizen and Viet-Nam Vet: I hope that crack snorting team in DC follow thru with the military option and that Russia and China defend Iran just as Bush would defend the fascist state of Israel.
I pray that every imagined consequence happens to this Empire ten-fold which should leave the neocons with such a stunning defeat diplomatically and militarially that the only options left are to defend our country on our own shores instead of practicing “CHRISTIAN” genocide on foreign shores.
Fascist Israel is the source of all our troubles…………and should be “WIPED OFF THE MAP”. Zarqaui may have been a “Wannabe”. However he told one undeniable truth in his defense. “911 happened because of our duplicity with Fascist Israel!
June 1st, 2006 at 11:18 pmI agree so totally with “pgw” Bolton both looks and sounds like the apotheosis of “A-hole.”
June 1st, 2006 at 11:23 pmHe’s right out of central casting. He and Rumsfelt are typical examples of the F/U attitude of the President. He’s got to think of some way to excuse postponing all elections, “in such extraordinary circumstances. Don’t believe it. Doesn’t matter it’ll happen.
#214 – So you’re telling me to rent ‘Minority Report’ again? I can’t stand Tom Cruise, though.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:24 pmOK. How about a little rational thought?
Are the majority of persons in Iran Islamic fundamentalists? No. They are mostly moderates.
So how did the ranting fellow who resembles Gilligan get to be the Iranian leader? The same way that we elected GW: fear. The US invasion of Iraq caused fear that Iran would be invaded as well (”Axis of Evil”), causing a knee-jerk reaction to extremism. Of course, US Americans are afraid of (a) terrorism, (b) gays, (c) perceived attacks on Christianity, (d) government. Iranians are mostly afraid of invasion by the US and by Israel.
So let’s threaten a little more and maybe we’ll force the Iranians to be more moderate {that’s a joke, son}.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:46 pm#213, Eargy
Nice analysis.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:01 amSo how did the ranting fellow who resembles Gilligan get to be the Iranian leader?
Comment by Eargy Earpp — June 1, 2006 @ 11:46 pm
He REALLY does look like Gilligan, oh crap.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:03 amHA HA HA!! 215 comments.
This man is so disliked.
Funny. It’s one of those “I’m glad I’m not him” moments.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:23 am“Put up or shut up”. That is what Bolton´s first hooker (at his 45) told him. Now, I understand the seriousness in his face.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:26 amThere is an article in the February 2003 issue of Psychology Today about “When the boss is a bullly”. One of the bosses featured is John Bolton and how he allegedly ran after a staffer, yelling and screaming, and threw a stapler at her.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:28 amgary,
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:33 ami have read your posts on this site and i can only say that your breathtaking is stupid. please stop at once.
All us Pacific time zone folks are bloggin’ (and those few crazy asses up real late).
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:35 amI just would want to have seen US opinions (even liberals) if China had blasted an US embassy in the Balcanic War.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:35 amFor truth if the Iranian President looks like Gilligan and ours acts like him could we please sent the two of them on a three hour cruise?
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:41 amClif,
Three hour cruise definately.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:43 aminteresting that the party of God likes to kill God’s children enmasse……..
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:47 amCouldn’t resist the thought… :)
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:48 amUnbeleivable,
Yup, moved on past now. Its all good.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:49 amI am amazed that everyone is talking about Iran and nukes, which is a smokescreen, and no one is talking about the Iran Oil Bourse which is the real reason the Bushcos panties are in a twist.
Google: Iran Oil Bourse
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:19 amHistory teaches important lessons; that is, a possible threat of any nature from Iran is enough
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:53 amfor invasion from the Bush adminstration. The invasion of Afghanistan, justified by virtue of the insanity of its government, did objectively acheive a stategic position in the middle east (refer to map). Oddly enough LOL Iran is sandwiched between Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq was invaded, obviously, for its oil and strategic position. Remember that Iraq, Iran, and North Korea
belongs to the “Axis of Evil” aka Bush’s hit list. Prior to invasion of Iran, Bush will refer to the “Axis” list as justification.
Gee Bolton, I don’t know. I live up here in Vancouver and the city is full of Iranians and the ones I spoke with think Bush is a bufoon and that if he were to attack Iran it would be the last of a long string of stupid aistakes he has made over the recent past. When Iran holds ALL the cards, it is silly to watch Bush down on his hands and knees trying to bribe people to give up their principles. It’s all too funny to watch.
I get my news on Iran as well as on gold here:
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:58 amhttp://www.jsmineset.com
Gee Bolton, I don’t know. I live up here in Vancouver and the city is full of Iranians and the ones I spoke with think Bush is a buffoon and that if he were to attack Iran it would be the last of a long string of stupid aistakes he has made over the recent past. When Iran holds ALL the cards, it is silly to watch Bush down on his hands and knees trying to bribe people to give up their principles. It’s all too funny to watch.
I get my news on Iran as well as on gold here:
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:58 amhttp://www.jsmineset.com
WARNING! THINK FIRST!
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:13 amFOR THE SECURITY OF YOUR OWN PEOPLE IF NOTHING ELSE, THINK FIRST!
PUT THE FOLLOWING VARIABLES TOGETHER.
SUICIDE BOMBER.
TRUCK.
CONTAMINATED, RADIO ACTIVE EARTH.
I’M JUST SAYING, O.K.?
Iran was seen as a “threat” by the PNAC people before 9/11, so 9/11 didn’t change their viewpoint at all. The agenda was already there.
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:27 amThe “threat” as they see it is the fact that USA is losing the oil battle againt China.
As Wolfowitz stated about Iraq: “Let’s look at it simply. The most important difference between North Korea and Iraq is that economically, we just had no choice in Iraq. The country swims on a sea of oil.”
Bolton, we have to “put up” with you, but you really need to “shut up”.
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:14 amTo have such hotheads like Bolton rerpresenting America is an embarrasment almost as big as having Bush for a President. We need intelligent leaders with skills in diplomacy, leaders that are smart, leaders that can at least play chess. But to have these goons representing America is the ultimate embarrasment. America is rotting from the top. Poisoning the nation with hate for other cultures and nations, xenophobia, racism and paranoia. We need leadership with intelligence that we can respect. Throw these gangsters out of the White House, they have already murdered enough people and destroyed enough nations, including America.
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:17 amFrom “Sing Along With The Republicans” by THE FREEDOM TOAST (www.thefreedomtoast.com)
reprinted by permission (they are good about stuff like this)
Johnny Bolton came to town
(YANKEE DOODLE)
Johnny Bolton came to town, a right wing stalking pony
No one really liked him except Bush and Berlusconi
“You’re here to serve Uncle Sam, make sure you understand it.
All the world should obey us, and I’m here to demand it!â€
Bolton told the starving nations, bravo for their diet
Zero calories meant losing weight, we all should try it!
Bolton told the French don’t wait for any reconciling
No more chance of that than photographing him while smiling!
Bush and Rice chose Bolton using reas’ning and deduction
Just like they used to find Saddam’s arms of mass destruction!
Bolton will ne-go-ti-ate with friend and with rogue nation:
“Do things our way or you face complete annihilation!â€
Johnny Bolton went to town, diplomacy a’ready.
Use kind words to win them over, or else just aim steady!
Johnny Bolton, Bush made you our man in that world forum.
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:42 amDo us all a favor and now try to learn decorum!
True blue, a dispirited American, indicated “I actually have thought of what it would take to go to England, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Hell even Canada since it seems it’s gonna get mighty warm!”
What makes you think we want you or any other Yank in our countries? Your all tarred with the same brush. Stay in America mate and in the same manner that you judged all Germans as nazi’s after WW2, the rest of us in the world will judge you ALL Americans guilty. Good luck in the future. You will need it as some day, one day, accountability will come.
June 2nd, 2006 at 4:06 amThis would be funny were it not reality. Call the ambulance. This nut wants a confrontation with the entire world from a country that has neither the will, money nor manpower for such foolishness. Where do these bizarre people come from?
June 2nd, 2006 at 5:04 amWell said Rest_of_the_World, many of us Americans are asshamed of what we have become. Hopefully , all will learn to watch your backs because it only takes a handful of criminals to corrupt the entire country, as you point out just like in Nazi Germany and now the US.
June 2nd, 2006 at 5:31 amI think its time to start removing the hot heads from service for our own protection. This Nazi cabal listens to no one but their own inner circle. This is a prime example, ever US military expert indicates we cannot take on Iran. But, here is asshat leading the charge to oblivion. Since they won’t listen to reason, maybe Bolton or some other select members of the reich just start to disappear, not show-up to work, I’m sure that will get some improved listening attention.
June 2nd, 2006 at 5:36 am#237- Their Momma’s! Sorry, I could not stop myself. ;)
June 2nd, 2006 at 5:39 amWhat Exxon and AIPAC want is what Exxon and AIPAC gets, regardless if it the American publice that has to shoulder teh load. This insanity. At what point do you pull the drunk out from behind the wheel?
June 2nd, 2006 at 6:09 amThis is where the military will come from!
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h109-4752
June 2nd, 2006 at 6:39 amYay! That’s a diplomat!
June 2nd, 2006 at 7:34 amWatching Bolton the Israel firster only one thing comes to mind
I am the walrus Goo goo g’ joob
Don’t send your kids to die for Israel1
June 2nd, 2006 at 7:46 amIs this jerk trying to start a war!!!??? Oh, yeah. I forgot….
http://www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
June 2nd, 2006 at 8:06 amHaditha: The cover-up continues:
Right now on LCL
Like how Bolton slipped in Iran’s “last chance” into the dialogue. Sounds imminenty!!
June 2nd, 2006 at 8:14 amUnbelievable. At some point the conservatives have to say, “These guys are dangerous and they don’t represent the conservative philosophy of our movement.” This guy Bolten is a sick puppy with anger-management problems. Unfortunately he fits right in with the Bush Admin.
June 2nd, 2006 at 8:15 amWelcome to the new world order, Please sit back and relax while we take your lives away
June 2nd, 2006 at 8:27 amG.O.P.
Stands for Global Omnipotent Party
June 2nd, 2006 at 8:27 amWon’t somone please tell this silly-ass Jews monkey to stfu?
June 2nd, 2006 at 8:58 amI do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States
preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States
preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States
Not us, not the homeland, not freedom, not unborn babies, not you, not me, not the dollar or ExxonMobile. Not mom and apple pie and the christian church, not Iraq or huddling masses yearning to be free.
preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States
Period.
June 2nd, 2006 at 9:26 amHonestly now folks,
Who the fu*k is going to be frightened by…
…Mark Twain?…
June 2nd, 2006 at 9:43 amDear Iran
get your tins oc coke filled with nerve gas and ship them to america and if your attacked please dispose of texas first
Bolton and america deserve whats coming to them – and tell bush and bolton to stuff there offer and continue with your peaceful nuclear research
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:15 amHA HA HA HA HA THE JOKES ON BOLTON
Iran proposal ‘excludes use of force’
Russia today said a plan to break the international impasse over Iran’s nuclear programme excluded the use of military force “in any circumstances”.
“I can say unambiguously that all the agreements from yesterday’s meetings rule out, in any circumstances, the use of military force,” the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, was quoted as saying by Moscow’s RIA news agency.
Mr Lavrov’s comments followed yesterday’s agreement on a package of proposals to be presented to Tehran.
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:20 amThe only thing I know for sure about Bolton is that I don’t want, under any concept, see him eating soup or quaffing a beer.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:46 amThe Soviet Union came to an end because of tough talk and a tough stand by President Reagan. Libya backed down because of tough talk & action by the United States under President Bush in Iraq.
I’m pretty sure nice diplomatic talk didn’t work very well during Clinton’s presidency. We were nice guys back then and 9 months after he left office, we got attacked.
That region of the world understands only one thing – force. That’s how they try to get what they want done and that’s how we have to answer them. Plain and simple.
It would be such a peaceful world if we could all discuss things and come to consensus on international issues, but some leaders are not interested in diplomacy. And to suggest that the U.S. is not interested in diplomacy, as I’m sure just ran through most of your heads, is ridiculous. Think of all the diplomatic discussions that take place between the U.S. and other reasonable leaders around the globe. I don’t see the U.S. treatening European countries, even when we disagree. We are quite capable of diplomacy, but when it comes to countries such as Iran & the former Iraqi regime, that do not take part in honest diplomatic discussions, we are wise to keep force on the table as a final option.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:05 pmGenerals gathered in their masses, just like witches at black masses.
War Pigs, one and all.
-GSD
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:15 pmMaybe Bolton thinks that shaking his walrus moustache at the Iranians will scare them
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:16 pm“I’m pretty sure nice diplomatic talk didn’t work very well during Clinton’s presidency. We were nice guys back then and 9 months after he left office, we got attacked.”
Oh, you mean almost a year into George W. Bush’s Presidency.
-GSD
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:17 pm#256 I don’t see the U.S. treatening European countries, even when we disagree.
It’s very evident you haven’t followed the politics and diplomacy of the USA towards Europe the last five years… Some things come to mind “With us or against us”, french fries, Bush hasn’t received yet the new PM of Spain (2 years and counting), the killing of the agent of the Italy security who rescued the newswriter Giulietta Sgregna, the bombing of the Hotel Palestine… all that, and more, doesn’t sound as Bush’s GOP being “kind and diplomatic”…
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:19 pmYou, Zoo, Cyra, Lora, Sharon Cox and Jules make me proud to be a woman. If only we could get the rest of our gender to stop looking in the compact mirror and start thinking about our society and the world again… :)
Comment by unbelievable
unbelievable,
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:29 pmThanks for the compliment. However, I think you denigrate our gender a bit; the majority of women–even Caucasian women like you and me–vote Democrat. It is the majority of Caucasian men who still vote Rethug.
I recall that your father was a conservative Republican. My biological father wasn’t, but my stepfather, with whom I shared a domicile longer than my own Dad was Republican by family connection. Before he died, he was starting to move away from it, because as a nature-lover, he didn’t like the anit-conservation stance of the GOP at least since Reagan’s times, and, as a chemist, he wouldn’t have liked the current Repub anti-science position. I have no doubt that he would be appalled by the current GOP.
If I am a bit incoherent, please forgive me, as I am more than a bit distraught at the news that a very good friend of mine has terminal cancer and isn’t expected to live out this year.
Well did you think they sent 2 more (3 total) warships to the Persian Gulf to ship some oil or go for a nice boat ride? Or that the black ops are marking sites for bombing to satellites in Iran for scientific experiment?
It’s all in the works already!
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:31 pmCSection,
There are plenty of forceful ways to address these countries aside from physical attack.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:39 pmImagine if we just went into Iraq, and instead of bombing, took 1/100 of the money and built beautiful mosques and schools and clinics. And we filled them with food and water, and told the people of Iraq that we were wrong for how we had treated them for the last few decades (and meant it!), and that we would always work with them to increase their quality of life. Just imagine. The US doing something good without any desire for payment. Just because it would bring some peace to this world.
Some of you may think this is folly, but you’ve had the last 60+ years of bombing and hatred, and none of that has worked very well at all…
There will always be crazy folks, hell-bent on destruction. But they never have been and never will be the majority. I would bet anything that most Iraqis are like you and me – they just want peace and quiet and running water and food and safety. IF the majority takes the power back from these people all around the world, we could live on a pretty nifty planet.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:44 pmBolton has the diplomatic skills of a rabid pit bull. This man is only at the UN to take the piss out of it.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:46 pmWe are quite capable of diplomacy, but when it comes to countries such as Iran & the former Iraqi regime, that do not take part in honest diplomatic discussions, we are wise to keep force on the table as a final option.
Comment by C Storms #256
C Scum,
I am the United States of America under the control of George W. Bush…
…I have a plethora of nuclear weapons (tens of thousands of them)…
…I have adopted a policy of preemptive strikes/ regime change (when I damn well feel like it) against whomever I choose, and have been known to lie to get my way…’er war…
…I support Israel (which ALSO has nuclear weapons, and likes to TAKE territory/OCCUPY and OPPRESS) and no compunctions about bombing sovereign nations under the guise of “self-defense”…
…I DEMAND that you (IRAN) cease and desist forthwith all attempts to secure your country, people, form of government and sovereignty…
…through the acquisition of nuclear weapons…
…I make this demand under threat of violence (I will bomb your a*s if you do not comply)…
…or maybe my buddy Israel will do it for me…
…I realize you do not like my brand of diplomacy (as it is disrespectful, arrogant, a tad racist, and hypocritical), but tough sh*t…
…several other (mostly white)nations (that also sport nukes) are currently in agreement that- as hypocritical as my demands are- you should comply…
…for the sake of “world peace”…
hehehehehe…
Iran’s reply:
…kiss our collective a*ses…
…bring it on…
Oh and C Scum for the record…
…Russia went bankrupt from years of attempting to defeat the mujaheddin and OCCUPATION in Afghanistan…
…the Clinton administration used a world coalition to induce Libya to rejoin the world community…
…through devastating economic sanctions…
…the Libyans acquiesced (albeit during bushiva’s first term)…
…because of actions set in motion by the Clinton administration…
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:03 pmHowever, I think you denigrate our gender a bit;
Because I talk to someone who jokes about women not being allowed to vote? Or because I insist that he not call me names and therefore teach him to respect me, and hopefully other women? Because I don’t degrade him and therefore engrain the stereotype? I’m not sure how you mean. But that’s not at all how I see it. The way to get people to accept others who are different is by letting them get to know someone who is different and liking them anyway. Not sure how I could accomplish that by attacking him,or anyone else…
a very good friend of mine has terminal cancer and isn’t expected to live out this year.
Comment by Lora — June 2, 2006 @ 12:29 pm
Very sorry to hear that. Many of my relatives have died from cancer. It is a horrible disease. My thoughts to your and your friend…
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:13 pmJust about the time the international community has decided they have seen the worst aspect of US hatred, up pops JB! The “Ugly American” personified!
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:37 pmBolton couldn’t be bothered to attend or send a representative to over 100 meetings on the new committee to investigate torture, so where did we wind up? In a place where the administration could complain that they did not like the outcome!
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:48 pm[...] So now Bolton and Rice are taunting Iran because, you know, you are not a neocon unless you have your little chicken-hawk head all the way up your cowardly little ass while spouting absolute nonsense from the safety of your posh NY office or Fox News green room. [...]
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:49 pmhe and condi and bush are starting to do their job on Iran, just like Afganastan, Palestine, Somalia, and Venezuela. the never build anything, they only create chaos.
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:38 pm#261 – er no C-Storms you are full of it. Libya was a negotiating succes and not a force success. Libya did not give up WMD because of Iraq, it gave them up as part of a desire to fight Islamism at home and get back into the world economy – don’t make me look up references, I don’t have time for a serial fabricator like yourself. The Iraq war delayed the Libyan deal, in fact. And John ‘tough talk’ Bolton was thrown off the negotiating team with Libya BECAUSE he was behaving like a WALRUS in a CHINA SHOP. His behavor derailed the talks until the British complained to the White House about him. Good luck with that ‘kill them all’ policy you like so much.
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:37 pmCan anybody on this page explain American Foreign policies at the UN here, are you just a country that wants a backward world for your own personal gains
Lets see the democrats or the republicans explain this
The US has repeatedly acted to undermine peace and human rights initiatives at the United Nations, routinely voting against hundreds of UN resolutions and treaties. The US easily has the worst record of any nation on not supporting UN treaties. In almost all of its hundreds of “no†votes, the US was the “sole†nation to vote no (among the 100–130 nations that usually vote), and among only 1 or 2 other nations voting no the rest of the time. Here’s a representative sample of US votes from 1978–1987:Nations
lets see anybody explain your UN obligations to making this a better world
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:56 pmIran proposal ‘excludes use of force’
June 2: Russia today said a plan to break the international impasse over Iran’s nuclear programme excluded the use of military force “in any circumstances”.
IF ANYTHING ITS BOLTON WHO SHOULD JUST SHUT THE F__K UP
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:58 pmbush,blind faith of israel sadism and banditry is your principle value.
June 2nd, 2006 at 4:48 pmbush,blind faith of israel sadism and banditry is your principle value.
June 2nd, 2006 at 4:48 pmamerica needs to engage in a massive conflict in the middle east. otherwise, all oil will be traded in EUROS (as was started in 2000 with Iraq) Iran is in the process of conversion and the dollar will drop significantly. if we don’t secure a major conflict now then the oil won’t come our way. that’s the bottom line.
June 2nd, 2006 at 6:01 pmif we don’t secure a major conflict now then the oil won’t come our way. that’s the bottom line.
Comment by truth #277
truth,
you’re right on it!
…and Venezuela, Russia, and China have plans too…
June 2nd, 2006 at 7:14 pmTruth what happened to Capitalism..and the free market you republiscum chant about sooooo much..don’t want it if you can’t control it?
June 2nd, 2006 at 7:16 pm#267 unbelievable,
June 2nd, 2006 at 7:30 pmI only meant the “denigration” of women in reference to your statement about getting more women away from the compact mirror. While I don’t doubt that many Repub women are that way (ie. with their compact mirrors), the majority of Caucasian women still tend to vote Democrat, though not in percentages as high as minority women.
Its amazing how non-Americans use the words “We” and “You” to describe and possibly allocate blame totally on the American people. I, or any individual American layperson is not responsible for the Bush adminstration’s actions, or even Congress’ actions for the matter. The truth is, every government on the planet is guilty of global ambition, and to blame typical people for these is outrageous. The Middle East is an unstable region that threatens the U.S. economy. Do you believe ruling half of the U.S. will stand for this? As long as American populous continues to have flexible transportation aka the Hummer and piss gasoline, there will be Yankee noses in the Middle East’s stash. So Europe STFU! If you had a military bugdet that rivaled your total social spending, you would be in Iraq too. Notice how I used the word “you”. It hurts doesn’t it.
June 2nd, 2006 at 9:33 pmthe majority of Caucasian women still tend to vote Democrat, though not in percentages as high as minority women.
Comment by Lora — June 2, 2006 @ 7:30 pm
And they still tend to judge themselves in terms of attracting a man (via their looks). It’s American culture that teaches women to value themselves in terms of their marital status and reproduction systems. If a 35 year old woman is not married in this country, people want to know what’s wrong with her. And they teach her to blame herself. Women are still second class citizens, and unfortunately, most tolerate it.
I cannot understand why a single woman would subscribe to christianity – a religion that says that we came from the rib of a man to be his helper and then treats us like possessions. When 75-80% of women in this country subscribe to that ideology, then sex sells… and so too do our looks. Women have to be the ones to stop being objectified. That was my point. If my remark makes any of them feel denigraded, then it is merely a reflection of what we have allowed ourselves to become in our culture – secondary.
June 2nd, 2006 at 9:54 pmfunny, i live in australia (american ex-pat), and i meet uppity uk’ers like this fairly often. i usually have one thing to say to them:
“alright, you go kick blair out on his ass, come back, and we’ll talk.”
people in the uk don’t want to admit it, but for a very long time, the uk, long having been the top investor and owner of american assets (until the more recent emergence of japan and china), was subsidizing america’s oil grabs and worldwide interventions. indeed, it’s hard to imagine a time when the uk wasn’t entirely compliant with american foreign policy. because when the uk couldn’t be an empire anymore, it decided to be an empirical leech instead. funny how that little revolution we had worked out so well for you…but now that things have gone sour it’s all america’s fault.
just a little hint: without the uk’s involvement and support, it’s likely that the iraq war would not have happened. americans always feel better about doing bad things when our anglo friends acquiesce, and there’s plenty of evidence to prove that blair & co. knew it was a sham (or have you forgotten that little thing called ‘the downing street memo’?).
so, my friends in the commonwealth of nations, it’d be nice if you cleaned your own house before shouting at the neighbors for what a mess theirs is.
we’re on this ship together, and you’re going down with us, mates.
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:20 pmsorry, my last post was referencing comment #236 by rest_of_the_world…
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:26 pmIt isn’t Iranian nukes that scares George Bush to death…It is the Iranian bourse. Iran is now selling oil for Euros. If the World drops the dollar as its reserve currency for buying oil and can start using other currencies it means the collapse of the dollar and the collapse of the American economy. If it happens on Bush’s watch it means the political annihilation of the Republican Party. America as a World power would be done for. Massive unemployment, collapse of the housing industry and failing banks frightens the Republicans to death. Iran, by selling its oil for currencies other than the hyper inflated dollar, knows what it is doing. It is collapsing the American Empire by destroying its inflated currencies value. Other countries will undoubtedly follow suit and start dumping dollars if the US attacks Iran. This is how the World can bring George Bush’s and America’s dreams of Empire to its knees.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:56 pmIs Bushs supply of ignorant, pathetic warmongers endless? When will the American people round up these assholes and hang them (or torture them, since we are now an outlaw state)? By our own standards any country or group of pissed off folks can now pre-emptively attack America without breaking any of herr fuhrers rules. The U.S. is a terroristic outlaw state that deserves whatever comes to it. Think that one over you loud mouth assholes that seem to think that you’re free to do whatever you want to the rest of the world. That means that the rest of the world has the right to do the same to you. After all Bin Laden (a close friend of the Bush family) was just showing us a little Shock and Awe now, wasn’t he? And he probably did it with the encouragement of the fuhrer, since the “investigation” was blocked from the truth at every turn and Barney Fife could have done a better job of investigating 9/11. And you fools that keep saying “it wasn’t my fault” are as bad as the Neo-nuts that you allowed to steal two ‘elections’ without so much as a peep of protest from the ‘opposition’ party. America is going down, and soon, so get used to being a third world shithole. The only way for the Neo nuts to stay in power now is for a big ‘terrorist’ attack before the next ‘election’, and you can be sure that Cheney is in charge of it. What a bunch of fools you all are, the entire world will rejoice as the American economy collapses. My advice to you is to hang all these bastards before they can carry out their planned destruction of that ‘god damned piece of paper’ that used to be called the Constitution. And no need to worry about cheap gas any more because you won’t be able to afford a car. Buy a horse and move to a fallout shelter in the mountains somewhere, cause otherwise you are all totally screwed, and I can’t think of any group of terrorists that deserve it more.
June 3rd, 2006 at 5:14 amComment by darrell — June 1, 2006 @ 10:26 pm
Is that you darrell or is it your other brother darrell?
June 3rd, 2006 at 5:59 pmPlease stop national socialism
June 3rd, 2006 at 11:18 pm#288 – Prog Rex, right on, although it is probably Tony Blair’s commitment to Bush that overrode the public opinion in the UK – they seemed lukewarm for the Iraq adventure from the start – Tony must have been promised a directorship in the Carlyle Group and that was that. Not enough barricades and Molotovs being thrown in my humble opinion then or now.
June 4th, 2006 at 12:54 amMichael Bolton would be a better ambassador.
June 4th, 2006 at 2:49 amAt least he could entertain everyone, unlike this clown Bolten.
These guys will not stop. They recently forced Amazon and B&N to ban the book “America Deceived” by E.A. Blayre III.
It’s getting sickening.
The last link (when Google Books folds under pressure):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0
It is just lies all over again. Premeditated lies. It is a clear as day that this is a nonsense story, Bush has no intention of “reaching out”, it just aids plausible deniability, so Bush can claim that he made extraordinary diplomatic effort while actually planning the assault. I personally believe Bush et al have totally underestimated the Iranians, and I hope the USA suffers badly when it initiates the unprovoked attack. Iran has superior weaponry and a large land mass. It will win any “war”, especially with SCO support.
June 4th, 2006 at 8:00 pmI am curious why none of the media covers the most important aspect of the Malvo shootings. If you look at Newspapers on the dates when the shootings are underway you discover something quite interesting. The shootings begin the very day the debate on the war starts and
completely and totally dominate the news until they catch them shortly
after the declaration of war???
If you ask most people “do you remember the debate about starting the second Iraq war”, they will all answer “yes of course”. But if you
followup with the question “name one point in the debate, a speech by
a Senator or where their senator stood”, nada.
Almost no one noticed any aspect of the most important senate debate
in the last 50 years?
An interesting and odd fact… No one has done a story on what the
real impact of the shootings were. It was to virtually eliminate the
senate war debate from the media.
The special forces background of the senior member of the pair also
seems to get short shrift.
Smells a little fishy to me. At a minimum its a very significant part
of the story, i.e. that a common murderer had such an impact on our
political process at such a critical time. Why is nobody covering this
obvious fact?
Dan Pride
June 4th, 2006 at 8:11 pmThe main thing we as Americans need to worry about is Israel’s security. Basicly the 51’st state & our only reliable ally in the region
June 4th, 2006 at 10:14 pmlet’s put this mad dog down…….itz time to kill america’s so called “jews”
June 4th, 2006 at 11:18 pmDid someone ask “where would we get the troops from?”
Universal National Service Act of 2006
WarFolly.com
BTW Bolton looks more like “Yosemite Sam” BANG BANG!! Shoot ‘em up!
June 5th, 2006 at 7:49 amCheck Out:
Universal National Service Act of 2006
June 5th, 2006 at 7:54 amWhat is the significance of the pathology of psychopathy and the leadership of the present ruling party? What impact does deviancy, from a sexual orientation position, have upon the framework of character and personality in forming decisions that affect the health and welfare of our nation? Where is the Solomonaic wisdom we associate with leadership and to what extent is trust we place in our leaders and security we empower them with, putting the nation at risk?
The issue of character, duty, honor and service to those we govern demands we examine these leaders from the position of conscience and what is just and good.
June 5th, 2006 at 4:59 pmOf course you won’t see Cheney in the forefront rattling the sabers along with Rumsfeld, Bush, and Rice against Iran. He admonished the US (Democratic)Adminstration when he controlled Halliburton for not dealing with Iran. He was totally against “sanctions” at that time when Halliburton could benefit. Look it Up!!
June 5th, 2006 at 11:32 pm#69) All the reasons the Bush Administration gave for invading Iraq that turned out to be wrong – i.e. they had direct ties to and Bin Laden and 9/11, they supported and sheltered Al-Qa’ida and other Islamic terrorist groups, and they were ready to go nuclear- do apply to Iran. Iran IS an Islamic terrorist nation. Iran IS building nuclear weapons – probably already have a half-dozen. Iran supported and facilitated the 9/11 suicide terrorists. Comment by Jay Jerome – June 1, 2006.†Problematically, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF WILD, UN-PROVEN ACCUSATIONS THAT FILLED COLIN POWELL’S MOMENTOUS ADDRESS TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE WORLD – HIS “ADELAI MOMENT†– LEADING UP TO FATE-FULL U.S.-LED INVASION AND ATTEMPTED OCCUPATION OF IRAQ. And, EVEN IF ANY OR ALL OF THEM WERE, INDEED, TRUE, THAT STILL DOESN’T “PROVE†THAT A MILITARY INVASION AND ATTEMPTED OCCUPATION OF THAT OIL-RICH ARAB/ISLAMIC/OPEC COUNTRY IS THE WAY TO SOLVE ANY OF THOSE PROBLEMS. As it turned out, IN IRAQ, BOTH THE REASONS FOR THE MILITARY INVASION AND OCCUPATION – AS WELL AS THE “REMEDY†– TURNED OUT TO BE BOGUS; WHICH IS WHY THE END RESULT HAS TURNED OUT SO COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE AND SELF-DESTRUCTIVE. And now, THERE IS EQUAL OR GREATER UNCERTAINTY ABOUT IRAN’S ACTIVITIES AND INTENTIONS – COMBINED WITH EXTREMELY-DESTRUCTIVE METHODS THAT ARE ALMOST UNIVERSALLY PREDICTED TO END UP CREATING MORE AND WORSE PROBLEMS THAN THEY “SOLVEâ€; YET, DICK CHENEY AND THE “ISRAEL FIRST†NEO-CONS CONTINUE TO BEAT THE “WAR DRUMS†REGARDING IRAN. Forget it, and look elsewhere for Understanding and Solutions!
June 6th, 2006 at 7:30 pm#73) Bolton’s preposterous saber-rattling is just the death rattle (i.e. the ‘FINAL DEATH THROES’) of the Bush administration (and its OLD TESTAMENT ‘WARRIOR JESUS’ APPROACH TO THE WORLD). The Russians, the Chinese, well, practically everyone must just be sitting back laughing at the Chimp’s empty threats. (Not quite. In fact, they are EXTREMELY WORRIED THAT DICK CHENEY AND THE NEO-CONS MAY, IN FACT, LAUNCH THE KIND OF SOON-TO-BE-NUCLEAR WAR AGAINST IRAN THAT THEY ARE THREATENING TO!!!). La Douche Bag Rice is even funnier with her “measured response†nonsense on Lehrer. Don’t these fools understand that the ball-game is over and they lost? Comment by purvis ames – June 1, 2006.†Yet, problematically, Mr. Cheney & his Neo-Con peers seem to be well aware of this, and are THREATENING TO TAKE A LOT MORE GOVERNMENTS AND COUNTRIES – POTENTIALLY THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE – DOWN WITH THEM WHEN THEY GO!!!
#74) What is the Liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons? Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it? Comment by Randy – June 1, 2006.†Interesting, semi-thoughtful questions, these. In my view, THE ULTIMATE PROBLEM OF THE IRANIANS IS “ISRAEL, AND THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION WILL, AT SOME POINT, INVOLVE “A MERGING AND CONFLATION OF THE FOLLOWERS OF THE SHI’ITE 12th IMAM, THE HIDDEN MAHDI, WITH THE NON-VIOLENT HISTORICAL JESUS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. Clearly, BOTH OF THESE RELIGIOUS LEADERS PROMISED THE EXACT-SAME THING: i.e. “TO DELIVER ‘GOD’S PERFECT TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND PEACE’ TO THE WORLD.†Yet, THIS CANNOT HAPPEN AS LONG AS WASHINGTON D.C. REMAINS IN “BONDAGE AND SERVITUDE†TO ISRAELI/JEWISH/ZIONIST MONEY AND INTERESTS, AND THE MACHIAVELLIAN INJUSTICES AND TYRANNIES THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY SPAWNED FOR THE PAST 4+ MILLENNIA.
#75) Caption: Got Man Yogurt? Comment by John Bolton – June 1, 2006.†Curiously, THE BEST FACE I CAN PUT ON THIS COMMENT IS: “DYS-LEXIA.†Yet, if this is “THE John Bolton,†this explains a lot (ha-ha!), since President George W. should have known that “BAD THINGS WERE BOUND TO HAPPEN†if he posted a Dys-Lexic as his Ambassador to the United Nations. (ha-ha!).
June 6th, 2006 at 8:18 pm#82) Of course, THE (MILITARY) OPTION IS NOT OFF THE TABLE; IT NEVER WILL BE. THAT’S THE POINT OF WAR: IF THINGS GET BAD ENOUGH, YOU GO TO WAR. But, that’s not an outcome that should even be discussed in these stages…. WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN? WAR IS GOING TO GO OFF THE TABLE, AND THEM POOF! PEACE ON EARTH? No. But, AS LONG AS YOU ARE RATTLING SABERS, AND BACKING NATIONS INTO A CORNER, IT’S ALMOST LIKE PRODDING THEM – WHEN DO YOU STOP? (DO YOU STOP) WHEN THEY LASH OUT? and you put ‘em down?…. THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT COURSE FOR IRAN, OR IRAQ – SEE GWB PLAN TO FLY U.S. PLANES WITH U.N. MARKINGS. Comment by bushllit – June 1, 2006.†“THAT’S THE POINT OF WAR: IF THINGS GET BAD ENOUGH, YOU GO TO WAR.†Yet, THIS IS PRECISELY “THE SHAGGY, BLACK HEART†OF BUSH II FOREIGN POLICY, AS WELL AS THE “LOGIK OF QUAGMIRE,†WHERE ISRAEL IS CONCERNED – SINCE, SEEMINGLY EVERYTHING THE “ISRAEL FIRST†NEO-CONS PUT THEIR FINGER PRINTS ON, HAS A WAY OF GOING FROM BAD TO WORSE. And, according to the NEO-CON “QUAGMIRE LOGIK,†THE WORSE THINGS GET – NO MATTER IF IT IS OF YOUR OWN DOING – YOU ARE JUSTIFIED IN “LASHING OUT†AND “GOING TO WAR.†And, the “G.W. BUSH PLAN TO FLY U.S. PLANES WITH U.N. MARKINGS†WAS DESIGNED TO PROVOKE IRAN INTO “DECLARING WAR AGAINST THE U.N.†apparently. PURE MACHIAVELLI/SATAN!!!
June 6th, 2006 at 9:39 pmAS LONG AS YOU ARE RATTLING SABERS, AND BACKING NATIONS INTO A CORNER, IT’S ALMOST LIKE PRODDING THEM – WHEN DO YOU STOP? (DO YOU STOP) WHEN THEY LASH OUT (ESPECIALLY AFTER PROVOKING THEM THROUGH ACTS OF DECEPTION – SUCH AS FLYING U.S. WAR PLANES WITH THE MARKINGS OF U.N. PEACE-KEEPERS – OR BLATANT ACTS OF COVERT TERRORISM, INCLUDING BLOODY COUPS THAT RESULT IN REGIME CHANGE, OF THE KIND THAT BOTH ISRAEL AND THE U.S. HAVE A LONG AND WELL-DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF??? Problematically, THE MORE A MACHIAVELLIAN FASCIST OR TYRANT PROVOKES OTHERS THIS WAY, THE MORE TENSIONS AND “UN-DETENTE†ARE RATCHETED UP, EVENTUALLY LEADING TO SOME FORM OF “EMOTIONAL EXPLOSION†IN THE FORM OF VIOLENCE, TERRORISM, AND/OR WAR. This kind of behavior, attitude, and orientation to the rest of the world is SEEMINGLY JUSTIFIED BY THE OLD TESTAMENT “WARRIOR JESUS†OF THE BOOK OF REVELATION – YET, IT HAS LED TO NOTHING BUT GRIEF AND “UN-FULFILLED PROMISES†SINCE 9-11-01.
In my view, BUSH II WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER ADVISED TO HAVE FOLLOWED THE PATH OF THE VIOLENCE-REJECTING, PEACE-PROMOTING HISTORICAL JESUS – WHO WAS A TEACHER AND PERSUADER. And, as I have sketched out above, BY TAKING THIS PATH, (JUDEO-)CHRISTIAN FOLLOWERS OF THE NON-VIOLENT HISTORICAL JESUS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT COULD POTENTIALLY MERGE WITH THE SHI’ITE FOLLOWERS OF THE 12th IMAM, THE MAHDI – AND, IN THIS WAY, PUT THEIR SHARED DESTINIES SQUARELY IN THE HANDS OF “THE ONE GOD†BOTH OF THESE RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS EMANATE FROM, ARE WORKING FOR, AND TOWARD. What is puzzling to me personally is WHY IN THE WORLD NO ONE WITHIN THE RANKS OF EITHER CHRISTIANS OR SHI’ITE MUSLIMS HAVE HIT UPON THIS YET – IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE ISLAMIC “END TIMES†PROPHECIES THAT PREDICT THAT (APPROXIMATELY) “IN THE END TIMES, CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WILL WORK TOGETHER AND CO-OPERATE IN THE PROMOTION OF THEIR OVER-LAPPING AGENDAS.â€
[...] Fourth, unilateral military action by the US remains on the table of options and is not affected by the proposed talks with Iran. Britain and Russia proclaimed that the use of military force against Iran is not an option to resolve the impasse over Iran’s nuclear program. Unfortunately, the definitive proclamations disappear with the context. The use of military force against Iran was simply not “on the agenda” of issues discussed when the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council assembled the carrot and stick incentives package for Iran. That does not mean that the military force option is off the table for Bush. As the same article reported, the “Bush administration has resisted offering assurances that Iran would not be the target of a military attack.” One reason for this resistance is that while Russia and Britain were proclaiming military action was not an option, U.N. Ambassador John Bolton was busy reaffirming that unilateral military action against Iran is still “on the table.” [...]
October 28th, 2006 at 8:05 pm[...] I am not sure what Bolton can point to as one of his diplomatic accomplishments during his tenure at the UN. He made it clear he hated the UN. He made it clear he was about as diplomatic as Hugo Chavez or Dick Cheney. He made a lot of strong, macho statements that tended to do little other than get our enemies all riled up to the point where they were launching rockets this way and that all the while managing to alienate our long-time allies. [...]
December 4th, 2006 at 8:25 pm