Comments on: Bolton: ‘This is Put Up or Shut Up Time For Iran,’ Unilateral Military Action Is ‘On The Table’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:04:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Cafe Politico » Ain’t Democracy A Bitch? http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-1225528 Cafe Politico » Ain’t Democracy A Bitch? Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:25:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-1225528 [...] I am not sure what Bolton can point to as one of his diplomatic accomplishments during his tenure at the UN. He made it clear he hated the UN. He made it clear he was about as diplomatic as Hugo Chavez or Dick Cheney. He made a lot of strong, macho statements that tended to do little other than get our enemies all riled up to the point where they were launching rockets this way and that all the while managing to alienate our long-time allies. [...] [...] I am not sure what Bolton can point to as one of his diplomatic accomplishments during his tenure at the UN. He made it clear he hated the UN. He made it clear he was about as diplomatic as Hugo Chavez or Dick Cheney. He made a lot of strong, macho statements that tended to do little other than get our enemies all riled up to the point where they were launching rockets this way and that all the while managing to alienate our long-time allies. [...]

]]> By: PD Thinkings » Bush’s Fake Talks With Iran http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-1044477 PD Thinkings » Bush’s Fake Talks With Iran Sun, 29 Oct 2006 00:05:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-1044477 [...] Fourth, unilateral military action by the US remains on the table of options and is not affected by the proposed talks with Iran. Britain and Russia proclaimed that the use of military force against Iran is not an option to resolve the impasse over Iran’s nuclear program. Unfortunately, the definitive proclamations disappear with the context. The use of military force against Iran was simply not “on the agenda” of issues discussed when the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council assembled the carrot and stick incentives package for Iran. That does not mean that the military force option is off the table for Bush. As the same article reported, the “Bush administration has resisted offering assurances that Iran would not be the target of a military attack.” One reason for this resistance is that while Russia and Britain were proclaiming military action was not an option, U.N. Ambassador John Bolton was busy reaffirming that unilateral military action against Iran is still “on the table.” [...] [...] Fourth, unilateral military action by the US remains on the table of options and is not affected by the proposed talks with Iran. Britain and Russia proclaimed that the use of military force against Iran is not an option to resolve the impasse over Iran’s nuclear program. Unfortunately, the definitive proclamations disappear with the context. The use of military force against Iran was simply not “on the agenda” of issues discussed when the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council assembled the carrot and stick incentives package for Iran. That does not mean that the military force option is off the table for Bush. As the same article reported, the “Bush administration has resisted offering assurances that Iran would not be the target of a military attack.” One reason for this resistance is that while Russia and Britain were proclaiming military action was not an option, U.N. Ambassador John Bolton was busy reaffirming that unilateral military action against Iran is still “on the table.” [...]

]]> By: The Real Gary http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-598850 The Real Gary Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:39:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-598850 #82) Of course, THE (MILITARY) OPTION IS NOT OFF THE TABLE; IT NEVER WILL BE. THAT’S THE POINT OF WAR: IF THINGS GET BAD ENOUGH, YOU GO TO WAR. But, that’s not an outcome that should even be discussed in these stages…. WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN? WAR IS GOING TO GO OFF THE TABLE, AND THEM POOF! PEACE ON EARTH? No. But, AS LONG AS YOU ARE RATTLING SABERS, AND BACKING NATIONS INTO A CORNER, IT’S ALMOST LIKE PRODDING THEM - WHEN DO YOU STOP? (DO YOU STOP) WHEN THEY LASH OUT? and you put ‘em down?.... THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT COURSE FOR IRAN, OR IRAQ - SEE GWB PLAN TO FLY U.S. PLANES WITH U.N. MARKINGS. Comment by bushllit - June 1, 2006.” “THAT’S THE POINT OF WAR: IF THINGS GET BAD ENOUGH, YOU GO TO WAR.” Yet, THIS IS PRECISELY “THE SHAGGY, BLACK HEART” OF BUSH II FOREIGN POLICY, AS WELL AS THE “LOGIK OF QUAGMIRE,” WHERE ISRAEL IS CONCERNED - SINCE, SEEMINGLY EVERYTHING THE “ISRAEL FIRST” NEO-CONS PUT THEIR FINGER PRINTS ON, HAS A WAY OF GOING FROM BAD TO WORSE. And, according to the NEO-CON “QUAGMIRE LOGIK,” THE WORSE THINGS GET - NO MATTER IF IT IS OF YOUR OWN DOING - YOU ARE JUSTIFIED IN “LASHING OUT” AND “GOING TO WAR.” And, the “G.W. BUSH PLAN TO FLY U.S. PLANES WITH U.N. MARKINGS” WAS DESIGNED TO PROVOKE IRAN INTO “DECLARING WAR AGAINST THE U.N.” apparently. PURE MACHIAVELLI/SATAN!!! AS LONG AS YOU ARE RATTLING SABERS, AND BACKING NATIONS INTO A CORNER, IT’S ALMOST LIKE PRODDING THEM - WHEN DO YOU STOP? (DO YOU STOP) WHEN THEY LASH OUT (ESPECIALLY AFTER PROVOKING THEM THROUGH ACTS OF DECEPTION - SUCH AS FLYING U.S. WAR PLANES WITH THE MARKINGS OF U.N. PEACE-KEEPERS - OR BLATANT ACTS OF COVERT TERRORISM, INCLUDING BLOODY COUPS THAT RESULT IN REGIME CHANGE, OF THE KIND THAT BOTH ISRAEL AND THE U.S. HAVE A LONG AND WELL-DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF??? Problematically, THE MORE A MACHIAVELLIAN FASCIST OR TYRANT PROVOKES OTHERS THIS WAY, THE MORE TENSIONS AND “UN-DETENTE” ARE RATCHETED UP, EVENTUALLY LEADING TO SOME FORM OF “EMOTIONAL EXPLOSION” IN THE FORM OF VIOLENCE, TERRORISM, AND/OR WAR. This kind of behavior, attitude, and orientation to the rest of the world is SEEMINGLY JUSTIFIED BY THE OLD TESTAMENT “WARRIOR JESUS” OF THE BOOK OF REVELATION - YET, IT HAS LED TO NOTHING BUT GRIEF AND “UN-FULFILLED PROMISES” SINCE 9-11-01. In my view, BUSH II WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER ADVISED TO HAVE FOLLOWED THE PATH OF THE VIOLENCE-REJECTING, PEACE-PROMOTING HISTORICAL JESUS - WHO WAS A TEACHER AND PERSUADER. And, as I have sketched out above, BY TAKING THIS PATH, (JUDEO-)CHRISTIAN FOLLOWERS OF THE NON-VIOLENT HISTORICAL JESUS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT COULD POTENTIALLY MERGE WITH THE SHI’ITE FOLLOWERS OF THE 12th IMAM, THE MAHDI - AND, IN THIS WAY, PUT THEIR SHARED DESTINIES SQUARELY IN THE HANDS OF “THE ONE GOD” BOTH OF THESE RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS EMANATE FROM, ARE WORKING FOR, AND TOWARD. What is puzzling to me personally is WHY IN THE WORLD NO ONE WITHIN THE RANKS OF EITHER CHRISTIANS OR SHI’ITE MUSLIMS HAVE HIT UPON THIS YET - IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE ISLAMIC “END TIMES” PROPHECIES THAT PREDICT THAT (APPROXIMATELY) “IN THE END TIMES, CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WILL WORK TOGETHER AND CO-OPERATE IN THE PROMOTION OF THEIR OVER-LAPPING AGENDAS.” #82) Of course, THE (MILITARY) OPTION IS NOT OFF THE TABLE; IT NEVER WILL BE. THAT’S THE POINT OF WAR: IF THINGS GET BAD ENOUGH, YOU GO TO WAR. But, that’s not an outcome that should even be discussed in these stages…. WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN? WAR IS GOING TO GO OFF THE TABLE, AND THEM POOF! PEACE ON EARTH? No. But, AS LONG AS YOU ARE RATTLING SABERS, AND BACKING NATIONS INTO A CORNER, IT’S ALMOST LIKE PRODDING THEM – WHEN DO YOU STOP? (DO YOU STOP) WHEN THEY LASH OUT? and you put ‘em down?…. THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT COURSE FOR IRAN, OR IRAQ – SEE GWB PLAN TO FLY U.S. PLANES WITH U.N. MARKINGS. Comment by bushllit – June 1, 2006.” “THAT’S THE POINT OF WAR: IF THINGS GET BAD ENOUGH, YOU GO TO WAR.” Yet, THIS IS PRECISELY “THE SHAGGY, BLACK HEART” OF BUSH II FOREIGN POLICY, AS WELL AS THE “LOGIK OF QUAGMIRE,” WHERE ISRAEL IS CONCERNED – SINCE, SEEMINGLY EVERYTHING THE “ISRAEL FIRST” NEO-CONS PUT THEIR FINGER PRINTS ON, HAS A WAY OF GOING FROM BAD TO WORSE. And, according to the NEO-CON “QUAGMIRE LOGIK,” THE WORSE THINGS GET – NO MATTER IF IT IS OF YOUR OWN DOING – YOU ARE JUSTIFIED IN “LASHING OUT” AND “GOING TO WAR.” And, the “G.W. BUSH PLAN TO FLY U.S. PLANES WITH U.N. MARKINGS” WAS DESIGNED TO PROVOKE IRAN INTO “DECLARING WAR AGAINST THE U.N.” apparently. PURE MACHIAVELLI/SATAN!!!
AS LONG AS YOU ARE RATTLING SABERS, AND BACKING NATIONS INTO A CORNER, IT’S ALMOST LIKE PRODDING THEM – WHEN DO YOU STOP? (DO YOU STOP) WHEN THEY LASH OUT (ESPECIALLY AFTER PROVOKING THEM THROUGH ACTS OF DECEPTION – SUCH AS FLYING U.S. WAR PLANES WITH THE MARKINGS OF U.N. PEACE-KEEPERS – OR BLATANT ACTS OF COVERT TERRORISM, INCLUDING BLOODY COUPS THAT RESULT IN REGIME CHANGE, OF THE KIND THAT BOTH ISRAEL AND THE U.S. HAVE A LONG AND WELL-DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF??? Problematically, THE MORE A MACHIAVELLIAN FASCIST OR TYRANT PROVOKES OTHERS THIS WAY, THE MORE TENSIONS AND “UN-DETENTE” ARE RATCHETED UP, EVENTUALLY LEADING TO SOME FORM OF “EMOTIONAL EXPLOSION” IN THE FORM OF VIOLENCE, TERRORISM, AND/OR WAR. This kind of behavior, attitude, and orientation to the rest of the world is SEEMINGLY JUSTIFIED BY THE OLD TESTAMENT “WARRIOR JESUS” OF THE BOOK OF REVELATION – YET, IT HAS LED TO NOTHING BUT GRIEF AND “UN-FULFILLED PROMISES” SINCE 9-11-01.
In my view, BUSH II WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER ADVISED TO HAVE FOLLOWED THE PATH OF THE VIOLENCE-REJECTING, PEACE-PROMOTING HISTORICAL JESUS – WHO WAS A TEACHER AND PERSUADER. And, as I have sketched out above, BY TAKING THIS PATH, (JUDEO-)CHRISTIAN FOLLOWERS OF THE NON-VIOLENT HISTORICAL JESUS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT COULD POTENTIALLY MERGE WITH THE SHI’ITE FOLLOWERS OF THE 12th IMAM, THE MAHDI – AND, IN THIS WAY, PUT THEIR SHARED DESTINIES SQUARELY IN THE HANDS OF “THE ONE GOD” BOTH OF THESE RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS EMANATE FROM, ARE WORKING FOR, AND TOWARD. What is puzzling to me personally is WHY IN THE WORLD NO ONE WITHIN THE RANKS OF EITHER CHRISTIANS OR SHI’ITE MUSLIMS HAVE HIT UPON THIS YET – IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE ISLAMIC “END TIMES” PROPHECIES THAT PREDICT THAT (APPROXIMATELY) “IN THE END TIMES, CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WILL WORK TOGETHER AND CO-OPERATE IN THE PROMOTION OF THEIR OVER-LAPPING AGENDAS.”

]]> By: The Real Gary http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-598724 The Real Gary Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:18:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-598724 #73) Bolton’s preposterous saber-rattling is just the death rattle (i.e. the ‘FINAL DEATH THROES’) of the Bush administration (and its OLD TESTAMENT ‘WARRIOR JESUS’ APPROACH TO THE WORLD). The Russians, the Chinese, well, practically everyone must just be sitting back laughing at the Chimp’s empty threats. (Not quite. In fact, they are EXTREMELY WORRIED THAT DICK CHENEY AND THE NEO-CONS MAY, IN FACT, LAUNCH THE KIND OF SOON-TO-BE-NUCLEAR WAR AGAINST IRAN THAT THEY ARE THREATENING TO!!!). La Douche Bag Rice is even funnier with her “measured response” nonsense on Lehrer. Don’t these fools understand that the ball-game is over and they lost? Comment by purvis ames - June 1, 2006.” Yet, problematically, Mr. Cheney & his Neo-Con peers seem to be well aware of this, and are THREATENING TO TAKE A LOT MORE GOVERNMENTS AND COUNTRIES - POTENTIALLY THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE - DOWN WITH THEM WHEN THEY GO!!! #74) What is the Liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons? Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it? Comment by Randy - June 1, 2006.” Interesting, semi-thoughtful questions, these. In my view, THE ULTIMATE PROBLEM OF THE IRANIANS IS “ISRAEL, AND THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION WILL, AT SOME POINT, INVOLVE “A MERGING AND CONFLATION OF THE FOLLOWERS OF THE SHI’ITE 12th IMAM, THE HIDDEN MAHDI, WITH THE NON-VIOLENT HISTORICAL JESUS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. Clearly, BOTH OF THESE RELIGIOUS LEADERS PROMISED THE EXACT-SAME THING: i.e. “TO DELIVER ‘GOD’S PERFECT TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND PEACE’ TO THE WORLD.” Yet, THIS CANNOT HAPPEN AS LONG AS WASHINGTON D.C. REMAINS IN “BONDAGE AND SERVITUDE” TO ISRAELI/JEWISH/ZIONIST MONEY AND INTERESTS, AND THE MACHIAVELLIAN INJUSTICES AND TYRANNIES THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY SPAWNED FOR THE PAST 4+ MILLENNIA. #75) Caption: Got Man Yogurt? Comment by John Bolton - June 1, 2006.” Curiously, THE BEST FACE I CAN PUT ON THIS COMMENT IS: “DYS-LEXIA.” Yet, if this is “THE John Bolton,” this explains a lot (ha-ha!), since President George W. should have known that “BAD THINGS WERE BOUND TO HAPPEN” if he posted a Dys-Lexic as his Ambassador to the United Nations. (ha-ha!). #73) Bolton’s preposterous saber-rattling is just the death rattle (i.e. the ‘FINAL DEATH THROES’) of the Bush administration (and its OLD TESTAMENT ‘WARRIOR JESUS’ APPROACH TO THE WORLD). The Russians, the Chinese, well, practically everyone must just be sitting back laughing at the Chimp’s empty threats. (Not quite. In fact, they are EXTREMELY WORRIED THAT DICK CHENEY AND THE NEO-CONS MAY, IN FACT, LAUNCH THE KIND OF SOON-TO-BE-NUCLEAR WAR AGAINST IRAN THAT THEY ARE THREATENING TO!!!). La Douche Bag Rice is even funnier with her “measured response” nonsense on Lehrer. Don’t these fools understand that the ball-game is over and they lost? Comment by purvis ames – June 1, 2006.” Yet, problematically, Mr. Cheney & his Neo-Con peers seem to be well aware of this, and are THREATENING TO TAKE A LOT MORE GOVERNMENTS AND COUNTRIES – POTENTIALLY THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE – DOWN WITH THEM WHEN THEY GO!!!

#74) What is the Liberal solution to the Iran problem? Talk to them nice? Hope they listen to our kind words and we trust them not to use their nuclear weapons? Surrender to the Islamic world now? What is it? Comment by Randy – June 1, 2006.” Interesting, semi-thoughtful questions, these. In my view, THE ULTIMATE PROBLEM OF THE IRANIANS IS “ISRAEL, AND THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION WILL, AT SOME POINT, INVOLVE “A MERGING AND CONFLATION OF THE FOLLOWERS OF THE SHI’ITE 12th IMAM, THE HIDDEN MAHDI, WITH THE NON-VIOLENT HISTORICAL JESUS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. Clearly, BOTH OF THESE RELIGIOUS LEADERS PROMISED THE EXACT-SAME THING: i.e. “TO DELIVER ‘GOD’S PERFECT TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND PEACE’ TO THE WORLD.” Yet, THIS CANNOT HAPPEN AS LONG AS WASHINGTON D.C. REMAINS IN “BONDAGE AND SERVITUDE” TO ISRAELI/JEWISH/ZIONIST MONEY AND INTERESTS, AND THE MACHIAVELLIAN INJUSTICES AND TYRANNIES THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY SPAWNED FOR THE PAST 4+ MILLENNIA.

#75) Caption: Got Man Yogurt? Comment by John Bolton – June 1, 2006.” Curiously, THE BEST FACE I CAN PUT ON THIS COMMENT IS: “DYS-LEXIA.” Yet, if this is “THE John Bolton,” this explains a lot (ha-ha!), since President George W. should have known that “BAD THINGS WERE BOUND TO HAPPEN” if he posted a Dys-Lexic as his Ambassador to the United Nations. (ha-ha!).

]]> By: The Real Gary http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-598611 The Real Gary Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:30:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-598611 #69) All the reasons the Bush Administration gave for invading Iraq that turned out to be wrong - i.e. they had direct ties to and Bin Laden and 9/11, they supported and sheltered Al-Qa’ida and other Islamic terrorist groups, and they were ready to go nuclear- do apply to Iran. Iran IS an Islamic terrorist nation. Iran IS building nuclear weapons - probably already have a half-dozen. Iran supported and facilitated the 9/11 suicide terrorists. Comment by Jay Jerome - June 1, 2006.” Problematically, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF WILD, UN-PROVEN ACCUSATIONS THAT FILLED COLIN POWELL’S MOMENTOUS ADDRESS TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE WORLD - HIS “ADELAI MOMENT” - LEADING UP TO FATE-FULL U.S.-LED INVASION AND ATTEMPTED OCCUPATION OF IRAQ. And, EVEN IF ANY OR ALL OF THEM WERE, INDEED, TRUE, THAT STILL DOESN’T “PROVE” THAT A MILITARY INVASION AND ATTEMPTED OCCUPATION OF THAT OIL-RICH ARAB/ISLAMIC/OPEC COUNTRY IS THE WAY TO SOLVE ANY OF THOSE PROBLEMS. As it turned out, IN IRAQ, BOTH THE REASONS FOR THE MILITARY INVASION AND OCCUPATION - AS WELL AS THE “REMEDY” - TURNED OUT TO BE BOGUS; WHICH IS WHY THE END RESULT HAS TURNED OUT SO COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE AND SELF-DESTRUCTIVE. And now, THERE IS EQUAL OR GREATER UNCERTAINTY ABOUT IRAN’S ACTIVITIES AND INTENTIONS - COMBINED WITH EXTREMELY-DESTRUCTIVE METHODS THAT ARE ALMOST UNIVERSALLY PREDICTED TO END UP CREATING MORE AND WORSE PROBLEMS THAN THEY “SOLVE”; YET, DICK CHENEY AND THE “ISRAEL FIRST” NEO-CONS CONTINUE TO BEAT THE “WAR DRUMS” REGARDING IRAN. Forget it, and look elsewhere for Understanding and Solutions! #69) All the reasons the Bush Administration gave for invading Iraq that turned out to be wrong – i.e. they had direct ties to and Bin Laden and 9/11, they supported and sheltered Al-Qa’ida and other Islamic terrorist groups, and they were ready to go nuclear- do apply to Iran. Iran IS an Islamic terrorist nation. Iran IS building nuclear weapons – probably already have a half-dozen. Iran supported and facilitated the 9/11 suicide terrorists. Comment by Jay Jerome – June 1, 2006.” Problematically, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF WILD, UN-PROVEN ACCUSATIONS THAT FILLED COLIN POWELL’S MOMENTOUS ADDRESS TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE WORLD – HIS “ADELAI MOMENT” – LEADING UP TO FATE-FULL U.S.-LED INVASION AND ATTEMPTED OCCUPATION OF IRAQ. And, EVEN IF ANY OR ALL OF THEM WERE, INDEED, TRUE, THAT STILL DOESN’T “PROVE” THAT A MILITARY INVASION AND ATTEMPTED OCCUPATION OF THAT OIL-RICH ARAB/ISLAMIC/OPEC COUNTRY IS THE WAY TO SOLVE ANY OF THOSE PROBLEMS. As it turned out, IN IRAQ, BOTH THE REASONS FOR THE MILITARY INVASION AND OCCUPATION – AS WELL AS THE “REMEDY” – TURNED OUT TO BE BOGUS; WHICH IS WHY THE END RESULT HAS TURNED OUT SO COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE AND SELF-DESTRUCTIVE. And now, THERE IS EQUAL OR GREATER UNCERTAINTY ABOUT IRAN’S ACTIVITIES AND INTENTIONS – COMBINED WITH EXTREMELY-DESTRUCTIVE METHODS THAT ARE ALMOST UNIVERSALLY PREDICTED TO END UP CREATING MORE AND WORSE PROBLEMS THAN THEY “SOLVE”; YET, DICK CHENEY AND THE “ISRAEL FIRST” NEO-CONS CONTINUE TO BEAT THE “WAR DRUMS” REGARDING IRAN. Forget it, and look elsewhere for Understanding and Solutions!

]]> By: fastfalcon http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-597025 fastfalcon Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:32:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-597025 Of course you won't see Cheney in the forefront rattling the sabers along with Rumsfeld, Bush, and Rice against Iran. He admonished the US (Democratic)Adminstration when he controlled Halliburton for not dealing with Iran. He was totally against "sanctions" at that time when Halliburton could benefit. Look it Up!! Of course you won’t see Cheney in the forefront rattling the sabers along with Rumsfeld, Bush, and Rice against Iran. He admonished the US (Democratic)Adminstration when he controlled Halliburton for not dealing with Iran. He was totally against “sanctions” at that time when Halliburton could benefit. Look it Up!!

]]> By: Alfred Holden http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-596330 Alfred Holden Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:59:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-596330 What is the significance of the pathology of psychopathy and the leadership of the present ruling party? What impact does deviancy, from a sexual orientation position, have upon the framework of character and personality in forming decisions that affect the health and welfare of our nation? Where is the Solomonaic wisdom we associate with leadership and to what extent is trust we place in our leaders and security we empower them with, putting the nation at risk? The issue of character, duty, honor and service to those we govern demands we examine these leaders from the position of conscience and what is just and good. What is the significance of the pathology of psychopathy and the leadership of the present ruling party? What impact does deviancy, from a sexual orientation position, have upon the framework of character and personality in forming decisions that affect the health and welfare of our nation? Where is the Solomonaic wisdom we associate with leadership and to what extent is trust we place in our leaders and security we empower them with, putting the nation at risk?

The issue of character, duty, honor and service to those we govern demands we examine these leaders from the position of conscience and what is just and good.

]]> By: Tony Naz http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-595186 Tony Naz Mon, 05 Jun 2006 11:54:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-595186 Check Out: <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:h.r.4752.ih:" rel="nofollow"><strong>Universal National Service Act of 2006 </strong></a> Check Out:

Universal National Service Act of 2006

]]> By: Tony Naz http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-595179 Tony Naz Mon, 05 Jun 2006 11:49:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-595179 Did someone ask <em>"where would we get the troops from?"</em> <strong>Universal National Service Act of 2006 </strong> <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:h.r.4752.ih:" rel="nofollow"></a> <a href="http://warfolly.com" rel="nofollow">WarFolly.com</a> BTW Bolton looks more like "Yosemite Sam" BANG BANG!! Shoot 'em up! Did someone ask “where would we get the troops from?”

Universal National Service Act of 2006

WarFolly.com

BTW Bolton looks more like “Yosemite Sam” BANG BANG!! Shoot ‘em up!

]]> By: philthejeau http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-594732 philthejeau Mon, 05 Jun 2006 03:18:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-594732 let's put this mad dog down.......itz time to kill america's so called "jews" let’s put this mad dog down…….itz time to kill america’s so called “jews”

]]> By: ned shrontz http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-594671 ned shrontz Mon, 05 Jun 2006 02:14:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-594671 <strong>The main thing we as Americans need to worry about is Israel's security. Basicly the 51'st state & our only reliable ally in the region</strong> The main thing we as Americans need to worry about is Israel’s security. Basicly the 51’st state & our only reliable ally in the region

]]> By: Dan Pride http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-594540 Dan Pride Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:11:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-594540 I am curious why none of the media covers the most important aspect of the Malvo shootings. If you look at Newspapers on the dates when the shootings are underway you discover something quite interesting. The shootings begin the very day the debate on the war starts and completely and totally dominate the news until they catch them shortly after the declaration of war??? If you ask most people "do you remember the debate about starting the second Iraq war", they will all answer "yes of course". But if you followup with the question "name one point in the debate, a speech by a Senator or where their senator stood", nada. Almost no one noticed any aspect of the most important senate debate in the last 50 years? An interesting and odd fact... No one has done a story on what the real impact of the shootings were. It was to virtually eliminate the senate war debate from the media. The special forces background of the senior member of the pair also seems to get short shrift. Smells a little fishy to me. At a minimum its a very significant part of the story, i.e. that a common murderer had such an impact on our political process at such a critical time. Why is nobody covering this obvious fact? Dan Pride I am curious why none of the media covers the most important aspect of the Malvo shootings. If you look at Newspapers on the dates when the shootings are underway you discover something quite interesting. The shootings begin the very day the debate on the war starts and
completely and totally dominate the news until they catch them shortly
after the declaration of war???

If you ask most people “do you remember the debate about starting the second Iraq war”, they will all answer “yes of course”. But if you
followup with the question “name one point in the debate, a speech by
a Senator or where their senator stood”, nada.

Almost no one noticed any aspect of the most important senate debate
in the last 50 years?

An interesting and odd fact… No one has done a story on what the
real impact of the shootings were. It was to virtually eliminate the
senate war debate from the media.

The special forces background of the senior member of the pair also
seems to get short shrift.

Smells a little fishy to me. At a minimum its a very significant part
of the story, i.e. that a common murderer had such an impact on our
political process at such a critical time. Why is nobody covering this
obvious fact?

Dan Pride

]]> By: djr http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-594534 djr Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:00:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-594534 It is just lies all over again. Premeditated lies. It is a clear as day that this is a nonsense story, Bush has no intention of "reaching out", it just aids plausible deniability, so Bush can claim that he made extraordinary diplomatic effort while actually planning the assault. I personally believe Bush et al have totally underestimated the Iranians, and I hope the USA suffers badly when it initiates the unprovoked attack. Iran has superior weaponry and a large land mass. It will win any "war", especially with SCO support. It is just lies all over again. Premeditated lies. It is a clear as day that this is a nonsense story, Bush has no intention of “reaching out”, it just aids plausible deniability, so Bush can claim that he made extraordinary diplomatic effort while actually planning the assault. I personally believe Bush et al have totally underestimated the Iranians, and I hope the USA suffers badly when it initiates the unprovoked attack. Iran has superior weaponry and a large land mass. It will win any “war”, especially with SCO support.

]]> By: Michael Polins http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-593552 Michael Polins Sun, 04 Jun 2006 06:49:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-593552 Michael Bolton would be a better ambassador. At least he could entertain everyone, unlike this clown Bolten. These guys will not stop. They recently forced Amazon and B&N to ban the book "America Deceived" by E.A. Blayre III. It's getting sickening. The last link (when Google Books folds under pressure): http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0 Michael Bolton would be a better ambassador.
At least he could entertain everyone, unlike this clown Bolten.
These guys will not stop. They recently forced Amazon and B&N to ban the book “America Deceived” by E.A. Blayre III.
It’s getting sickening.
The last link (when Google Books folds under pressure):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0

]]> By: TerrytheCensoredTurtle http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-593511 TerrytheCensoredTurtle Sun, 04 Jun 2006 04:54:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-593511 #288 - Prog Rex, right on, although it is probably Tony Blair's commitment to Bush that overrode the public opinion in the UK - they seemed lukewarm for the Iraq adventure from the start - Tony must have been promised a directorship in the Carlyle Group and that was that. Not enough barricades and Molotovs being thrown in my humble opinion then or now. #288 – Prog Rex, right on, although it is probably Tony Blair’s commitment to Bush that overrode the public opinion in the UK – they seemed lukewarm for the Iraq adventure from the start – Tony must have been promised a directorship in the Carlyle Group and that was that. Not enough barricades and Molotovs being thrown in my humble opinion then or now.

]]> By: Mike http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-593450 Mike Sun, 04 Jun 2006 03:18:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-593450 Please stop national socialism Please stop national socialism

]]> By: Joe Caribe http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-593269 Joe Caribe Sat, 03 Jun 2006 21:59:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-593269 Comment by darrell — June 1, 2006 @ 10:26 pm Is that you darrell or is it your other brother darrell? Comment by darrell — June 1, 2006 @ 10:26 pm

Is that you darrell or is it your other brother darrell?

]]> By: battleborn http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-592735 battleborn Sat, 03 Jun 2006 09:14:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-592735 Is Bushs supply of ignorant, pathetic warmongers endless? When will the American people round up these assholes and hang them (or torture them, since we are now an outlaw state)? By our own standards any country or group of pissed off folks can now pre-emptively attack America without breaking any of herr fuhrers rules. The U.S. is a terroristic outlaw state that deserves whatever comes to it. Think that one over you loud mouth assholes that seem to think that you're free to do whatever you want to the rest of the world. That means that the rest of the world has the right to do the same to you. After all Bin Laden (a close friend of the Bush family) was just showing us a little Shock and Awe now, wasn't he? And he probably did it with the encouragement of the fuhrer, since the "investigation" was blocked from the truth at every turn and Barney Fife could have done a better job of investigating 9/11. And you fools that keep saying "it wasn't my fault" are as bad as the Neo-nuts that you allowed to steal two 'elections' without so much as a peep of protest from the 'opposition' party. America is going down, and soon, so get used to being a third world shithole. The only way for the Neo nuts to stay in power now is for a big 'terrorist' attack before the next 'election', and you can be sure that Cheney is in charge of it. What a bunch of fools you all are, the entire world will rejoice as the American economy collapses. My advice to you is to hang all these bastards before they can carry out their planned destruction of that 'god damned piece of paper' that used to be called the Constitution. And no need to worry about cheap gas any more because you won't be able to afford a car. Buy a horse and move to a fallout shelter in the mountains somewhere, cause otherwise you are all totally screwed, and I can't think of any group of terrorists that deserve it more. Is Bushs supply of ignorant, pathetic warmongers endless? When will the American people round up these assholes and hang them (or torture them, since we are now an outlaw state)? By our own standards any country or group of pissed off folks can now pre-emptively attack America without breaking any of herr fuhrers rules. The U.S. is a terroristic outlaw state that deserves whatever comes to it. Think that one over you loud mouth assholes that seem to think that you’re free to do whatever you want to the rest of the world. That means that the rest of the world has the right to do the same to you. After all Bin Laden (a close friend of the Bush family) was just showing us a little Shock and Awe now, wasn’t he? And he probably did it with the encouragement of the fuhrer, since the “investigation” was blocked from the truth at every turn and Barney Fife could have done a better job of investigating 9/11. And you fools that keep saying “it wasn’t my fault” are as bad as the Neo-nuts that you allowed to steal two ‘elections’ without so much as a peep of protest from the ‘opposition’ party. America is going down, and soon, so get used to being a third world shithole. The only way for the Neo nuts to stay in power now is for a big ‘terrorist’ attack before the next ‘election’, and you can be sure that Cheney is in charge of it. What a bunch of fools you all are, the entire world will rejoice as the American economy collapses. My advice to you is to hang all these bastards before they can carry out their planned destruction of that ‘god damned piece of paper’ that used to be called the Constitution. And no need to worry about cheap gas any more because you won’t be able to afford a car. Buy a horse and move to a fallout shelter in the mountains somewhere, cause otherwise you are all totally screwed, and I can’t think of any group of terrorists that deserve it more.

]]> By: James Richardson http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-592341 James Richardson Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-592341 It isn't Iranian nukes that scares George Bush to death...It is the Iranian bourse. Iran is now selling oil for Euros. If the World drops the dollar as its reserve currency for buying oil and can start using other currencies it means the collapse of the dollar and the collapse of the American economy. If it happens on Bush's watch it means the political annihilation of the Republican Party. America as a World power would be done for. Massive unemployment, collapse of the housing industry and failing banks frightens the Republicans to death. Iran, by selling its oil for currencies other than the hyper inflated dollar, knows what it is doing. It is collapsing the American Empire by destroying its inflated currencies value. Other countries will undoubtedly follow suit and start dumping dollars if the US attacks Iran. This is how the World can bring George Bush's and America's dreams of Empire to its knees. It isn’t Iranian nukes that scares George Bush to death…It is the Iranian bourse. Iran is now selling oil for Euros. If the World drops the dollar as its reserve currency for buying oil and can start using other currencies it means the collapse of the dollar and the collapse of the American economy. If it happens on Bush’s watch it means the political annihilation of the Republican Party. America as a World power would be done for. Massive unemployment, collapse of the housing industry and failing banks frightens the Republicans to death. Iran, by selling its oil for currencies other than the hyper inflated dollar, knows what it is doing. It is collapsing the American Empire by destroying its inflated currencies value. Other countries will undoubtedly follow suit and start dumping dollars if the US attacks Iran. This is how the World can bring George Bush’s and America’s dreams of Empire to its knees.

]]> By: Progressaurus Rex http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/comment-page-6/#comment-592206 Progressaurus Rex Sat, 03 Jun 2006 02:26:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/01/bolton-shut-up/#comment-592206 sorry, my last post was referencing comment #236 by rest_of_the_world... sorry, my last post was referencing comment #236 by rest_of_the_world…

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