ThinkFast AM: June 1, 2006
ThinkFast AM: June 1, 2006
Molly English, the editor of the Syracuse New Times, is considering legal action against Karl Zinsmeister, Bush’s new domestic policy adviser, for altering quotations in a profile of him published by the paper in 2004. “I find it insulting and his excuse is awfully lame,” she said.
The three-month probe of the reported massacre in Haditha, expected to be released next week, will likely conclude not only that “some officers gave false information to their superiors,” but that “senior Marine commanders were derelict in their duty to monitor the actions of subordinates.” Army Maj. Gen. Eldon Bargewell, who led the probe, “declined to say whether he would characterize it as a ‘coverup.’”
The House Appropriations Committee is a revolving door for staff members who later go to work as lobbyists trying to influence their former bosses. At least 46 former aides on the powerful spending committee registered as lobbyists after leaving their congressional jobs since 1998, according to records compiled by the Center for Public Integrity.
Vice President Cheney “was dead set against” yesterday’s decision to offer the prospect of direct talks with Iran, one former Bush official said, but in the end “it came down to convincing Cheney and others that if we are going to confront Iran, we first have to check off the box” of trying talks.
African-Americans and Latinos are 30 percent more likely to receive higher rates for home loans than white borrowers despite similar credit scores and risk factors, according to a new study by the Center for Responsible Lending.
Mark Corallo, former spokesman for Attorney General John Ashcroft, criticized the Bush administration’s subpoenas of reporters. “This is the most reckless abuse of power I have seen in years,” said Corallo. “You just don’t ride roughshod over the rights of reporters to gather information from confidential sources.”
The Army has started cutting costs to make its funding for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan extend for another month because Congress, which is currently on vacation, has failed to pass the 2006 emergency supplemental spending bill. Army Vice Chief of Staff Richard Cody said spending will gradually be restricted over the next few weeks, with options growing as dire as suspending recruitment efforts and postponing promotions.
“If you print this, I’ll be killed,” one local official says after criticizing the political infighting in Basra, Iraq, a city that was once “seemingly immune to the violence that has plagued the rest of the country,” but has now “sunk into chaos.”
Four conservatives running for Alabama’s Supreme Court are “making an argument legal scholars thought was settled in the 1800s: that state courts are not bound by U.S. Supreme Court precedents.” The issue last gained traction after conservatives “railed against federal court decisions striking down segregation in schools and public transportation.”
The data theft of 26.5 million veterans is worse than earlier reported. Not only were Social Security numbers and birthdates stolen, but phone numbers and addresses as well.
And finally: Kevin “K-Fed” Federline, rapper and husband of Britney Spears, dishes his media conspiracy theory: “The same day Dick Cheney shoots someone, they’ve got me on the cover of MSN [Web site]. It’s like they’re diverting attention from what’s really going on.”
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The issue last gained traction after conservatives “railed against federal court decisions striking down segregation in schools and public transportation.â€
June 1st, 2006 at 9:21 am“Southern politicians — Alabama Gov. George Wallace foremost among them — railed against federal court decisions striking down segregation in schools and public transportation.”
Seems to me that Wallace was a 4 term democrat, not a conservative. Heres anouther little factiod for you guys
“In the post-Civil War South, Democrats used the race issue to solidify their hold on Southern politics, playing on white resentment of black political power. Democrats were the agents in passing segregation laws, as well as laws disenfranchising blacks (and sometimes poor whites) politically.”
Also, Heres Anouther Judge Giving a Child Molester Probation
June 1st, 2006 at 9:23 amHer reasoning:
“So, I’m sitting here thinking this guy has earned his way to prison but then I look at you and I look at your physical size. I look at your basic ability to cope with people and, quite frankly, I shake to think what might happen to you in prison, because I don’t think you’ll do well in prison.”
Even more reason for him to go to prison. Hopefully some other prisoner would kill him and remove him from society permanently.
Think Fast is a nice distillation of news. Nice work.
The article on Darth Cheney opposing talks with Iran (but going along as check-off for war) illustrates why this man is a danger to our society and world peace. As chief architect for the Bush energy, Iraq war, and executive privilege policies, nothing spells disaster, defeat, and death to democracy like D!ck.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:25 amWow, Federline is smarter than he lets on.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:28 amSquegeeboo — The fact that Wallace was a Democrat has no bearing on whether or not he was a conservative. There are plenty of conservatives, even right-wing conservatives, who are members of the Democratic Party.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:30 amSqueezeblow,
Racism doesn’t follow party lines.
It’s a mindset in people conditioned
by generations of lies & prejudice.
How we got ‘here’ is far less important
than where we’re going.
What are you doing to fight racism?
Ahhh, good ‘ol Shooter; you can always
June 1st, 2006 at 9:36 amcount on him being the Asshole Supreme
in this bunch, eh? Dick doesn’t want to talk.
Dick just wants to shoot somebody.
Dick, instead of shooting your mouth off, just point
the gun in the direction you’re standing.
“There are plenty of conservatives, even right-wing conservatives, who are members of the Democratic Party.”
Sure there are, like John McCain.
But thanks for the clarification TP.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:37 amWhat are you doing to fight racism?
I have a(singular) minority friend, does that count?
June 1st, 2006 at 9:39 amAnd historically, when the racist Democrats opposing Civil Rights legislation became disillusioned with their party’s stance, they didn’t form their own party, they joined and were welcomed by the Republican party.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:41 amSpongebob – you know how to use a computer, so you say. Do a little more research on that “southern democrat” issue. You will see that they are now members of the republican party.
You can have John McCain, he is about as close to a democrat as Cheny. We do not want him!
June 1st, 2006 at 9:46 amCoverup in Iraq: sounds about right.
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June 1st, 2006 at 9:48 amKarl Zinsmeister, Bush’s new domestic policy adviser…altering quotations in a profile of him published by the paper in 2004.
We are seeing the beginnings of the Ministry of Truth.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:52 am#9
June 1st, 2006 at 9:56 amAhhh the good ‘ole Dixiecrats. Yeah, they were a great bunch of guys. Their acceptance into the Republican fold sure tells a lot about that party. They open their arms to bigots, racists, religious zealots and war mongers. For the most part at least.
Many are comparing Haditha to the My Lai massacre in Vietnam. But if the My Lai massacre is any indication then the Haditha killings will go unpunished. Here’s why.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:57 amCheney wants all the power and he wants to be above the law. If anyone here is a fan of “Animaniacs” I think we should give him all the Anvils.
50 Ways To Dump The Dubya
June 1st, 2006 at 9:59 amhttp://www.thewashingtonnote.com/
June 1st, 2006 at 10:07 amSteve has some comments re: Darth Cheney vs. Condi over the Iran “talks.”
What are the odds that all of those ’stolen’ files could be found mixed in with all of the phone records, in that massive datamining operation? And there will be utter amazement on the part of the people in charge, as well as no clue whatsoever as to how it could have happened. A mystery. But someone will have to ‘leak’, first. But can anyone go ‘take a look’, just in case?
June 1st, 2006 at 10:11 amKevin “K-Fed†Federline, rapper and husband of Britney Spears, dishes his media conspiracy theory: “The same day Dick Cheney shoots someone, they’ve got me on the cover of MSN [Web site]. It’s like they’re diverting attention from what’s really going on.â€
I am seriously disturbed about this making sense. Like I heard somewhere: Every minute he spends impregnating Britney [and reading MSN], he’s not spending rapping.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:14 amVice President Cheney “was dead set against†yesterday’s decision to offer the prospect of direct talks with Iran, one former Bush official said, but in the end “it came down to convincing Cheney and others that if we are going to confront Iran, we first have to check off the box†of trying talks.
Formalities… Does this mean they have “learned the lessons” of the war on terra? Don’t forget the CYA?
I’m so happy these “former Bush official(s)” come forward with this kind of info — the leaks Bush hates so much.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:18 amCheney is a very sick man, and I don’t mean the heart condition.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:19 amNot the type of individual that human beings want as leader of the free world.
He really needs to be cast into the Atlantic on an innertube.
Someone that freaking evil can’t last.
Airforce two may experience cabin pressure difficulties.
Speaking of “senior Marine commanders [being] derelict in their duty to monitor the actions of subordinates.â€, remember this story, involving the same Marine battalion, from its assault on Fallujah,
June 1st, 2006 at 10:20 am
The data theft of 26.5 million veterans is worse than earlier reported. Not only were Social Security numbers and birthdates stolen, but phone numbers and addresses as well.
When I saw Judge Daddy last weekend, he was supremely unconcerned about this issue, even when I told him that the 26.5 million vets was actually ALL of the vets — including him. His logic was that 26.5 million is a huge number, and what are the odds his information would be used. My logic was that why wouldn’t they use the information on the old retired guys who are on their second careers — they have better credit and more money! I’ll send him this info and urge him to keep track of his credit reports. *sigh*
June 1st, 2006 at 10:23 amAlso, Heres Anouther Judge Giving a Child Molester Probation
Her reasoning:
“So, I’m sitting here thinking this guy has earned his way to prison but then I look at you and I look at your physical size. I look at your basic ability to cope with people and, quite frankly, I shake to think what might happen to you in prison, because I don’t think you’ll do well in prison.â€
Even more reason for him to go to prison. Hopefully some other prisoner would kill him and remove him from society permanently.
Comment by squegeeboo
My wife (the mother of my children) was molested for years by a “family friend”. Though she finally told after a suicide attempt at 13 the scum ran off and no one heard from him. Finally I got in a position to have some state cops look him up and found out where he was living. I got a local prosecutor to get his ass dragged back up to our home town and he went to court. In the end he got about 2 years total in jail with time served.
The mental destruction he commited against my wife led to her trying to commit suicide several more times (though she is alot better now) and it led to anger and rage that left me with alot of black eyes and cuts and mental pain myself. She used to wake up in the middle of the night trembling and whimpering like a baby before she exploded in a fit of crazy rage. I have never seen someone with the pain she has had to deal with. There were many days I simply could not go to work because I had been up all night trying to keep her from hurting herself or me.
I want death and or a very long jail sentence for the bastard that put her and my family through the evil that he commited. A child molester is far worse than a they are given credit for. They create time bombs that go on out into the world and have to try to deal with what happened to them… and often leave a trail of tears in their wake.
Here I completely agree with you squegeeboo. These people are preying on our children. That means YOU and ME when we were little. What do we do to animals that prey on a child? We shoot it because it cannot be trusted even if it was a liked family pet. This judge needs to spend some time up close with someone that has been destroyed by this crap and some time with the family members that were affected. The hell I went through and the infinitely worse hell my wife went through deserves 50 year old child predators to be put in jail and gang raped to death.
When the animal that molested my wife was looked up by the state police they found him because he had recently been put on probation for having an underage girl in his car late at night smoking pot and drinking beer….. these animals can NOT be trusted and MUST be dealt with harshly. There is something basic wrong with them… therapy? Ya right.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:24 amThey tell us to wait for the investigation about the massacre in Haditha.Well guess what folks,the insurgents in Iraq already know the facts,and they know these abominations happen all the time.The puppet gov’t in Baghdad should use a megaphone when announcing the ‘investigation’ to the Iraqi people,because this,and many other atrocities,have multiplied the insurgency.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:24 amHe must be the only man alive who can shoot a man in the face and then get an apology.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:24 amYou people post too fast
June 1st, 2006 at 10:28 am#23 – Holy shit, Gerald, I’m so sorry your wife was put through such torture. Unforgiveable. That Judge Squeegy mentioned was completely and totally out of line. She had more concern for the creep who molested kids than she did for his victims. Who cares what happens to him in prison? He accepted that risk when he messed with little kids! People like that need to be removed from society forever — no second chances because every time they reoffend — and they will — there’s a new victim. Not just more money taken from a convenience store or another car stolen — devastation to another child. It’s too high a risk. I hope your wife continues to improve now that that guy is in prison.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:34 amThe issue last gained traction after conservatives “railed against federal court decisions striking down segregation in schools and public transportation.â€
“Southern politicians — Alabama Gov. George Wallace foremost among them — railed against federal court decisions striking down segregation in schools and public transportation.â€
Seems to me that Wallace was a 4 term democrat, not a conservative. Heres anouther little factiod for you guys
“In the post-Civil War South, Democrats used the race issue to solidify their hold on Southern politics, playing on white resentment of black political power. Democrats were the agents in passing segregation laws, as well as laws disenfranchising blacks (and sometimes poor whites) politically.â€
Comment by squegeeboo
Are you really that out of touch with history and who are conservatives and who are not? Do you know who the party was that won the civil war? And wouldnt you guess that the people that lost the civil war would not be part of that party? So YES the democrats back in the 1800s were NOT progressive, NOT liberal, NOT Jeffersonians, hell they tried to leave the union so they were barely American. And that lasted until when? That is right until the racists left the democratic party over the actions of top democrats like FDRs wife, Harry Truman, JFK, Johnson, etc. THEN they joined the republicans and ever since the republicans have been the center of racism, bigotry, red scares, paranoia, fear mongering, antichrists in America. And that left a gaping hole in the democratic party that was filled with people that were against everything the new republican party stood for. The party of Lincoln was DEAD and the new republican party of the SOUTH was alive and well … confederate flag and all…
June 1st, 2006 at 10:37 am#23
Gerald, sorry to hear about the wife
“What do we do to animals that prey on a child? We shoot it because it cannot be trusted even if it was a liked family pet.”
Put so bluntly, yet so perfectly.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:39 amGerald – I understand your wife’s position. I was molested when I was about 4 years old by a family friend. It has taken many years of therapy to realize it was not my fault and I could not have stopped him. He too was a family friend – we called him Uncle John. Last night there was a show on dateline about these predators. My husband and daughter watched it and could not understand why I wouldn’t. It is so difficult for people to understand that this is something that you NEVER will get over. I swear, if anyone had touched my daughter I would have killed them. I would not have even hesitated.
I am not a fan of the death penalty, but if we are going to have it I would not have a problem with using it on these horrid individuals.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:39 amGerald, don’t forget Lincoln wasn’t for equal rights, either.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:43 amGerald, don’t forget Lincoln wasn’t for equal rights, either.
Comment by ash
Lincoln WAS for equality… but the facts of the 1800s was that whites (even up north) saw themselves as superior and for Lincoln to champion equality for blacks would have been political suicide. Lincoln wrote about his beliefs before he became president but his public positions were aligned with the “white sensibilities” of the times. Only after he became a dictator did he have the power to force anything he wanted and only THEN did he proclaim the blacks to be free and have equal rights with other Americans… this in fact is probably what got Booth (Lincolns assassin) riled up…not the loss of the south.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:50 am#30 – You’re a great woman, Jules.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:52 amLincoln was for freeing the slaves, but not for voting rights or land ownership. He only believed in voting rights for former slaves after seeing them fight in the Civil War.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:56 am#32 Gerald
“Lincoln WAS for equality”
You are the first person beyond the standard, Lincoln abolished slavery 6th grade school teacher speechs, that I’ve heard to hold that view. I’ve always been under the impression that he could have really cared less about blacks one way or the other, and the Emancipation Proclamation was basically done in the hopes of fermenting rebellion in the South.
“I am not now, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social or political equality of the white and black races. I am not now nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor of intermarriages with white people. There is a physical difference between the white and the black races which will forever forbid the two races living together on social or political equality. There must be a position of superior and inferior, and I am in favor of assigning the superior position to the white man.”
Lincoln in his speech to Charleston, Illinois, 1858
“My paramount object in this struggle, is to save the Union and it not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it…”
June 1st, 2006 at 10:57 amLincoln at some other point and time.
Thanks, Squeege. Lincoln was NOT our greatest president. But he was great, nevertheless. Harrison is my favorite. Gave his record-length inaugural speech in torrential rains then died of pneumonia a month later.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:03 amZookeeper – thank you. People tell me it is the difficulties you encounter along lifes “journey” that define you as a person. They create the type of person that you are. That might be so but I think I could have turned out pretty darned good if I had not had all of the crap that happend to me as a kid happen. But then again, may that is why I love teaching so much. I want my students to know that there is at least one person in this world pulling for them.
No one leaves childhood unscathed!
June 1st, 2006 at 11:04 amComment by squegeeboo
From what I have read of Lincoln he saw blacks being treated badly as a child and felt guilty about it. He didnt understand why people would treat other people that way. The speech you qouted shows what I was talking about his public side aligned with “white sensiblities”. He did NOT officially support anything that would have made his supporters unhappy with him… he was very upset that others he had known for a long time were moving up the political ladder while he remained a small town lawyer. His ambitions finally helped him move up in politics and his desire for this status and power along with his keen sense of what would win him support kept his feeling about the wrongness of treating the blacks as animals in the background.
He did not suddenly wake up to the fact that blacks were not simply animals only after seeing them fight. He learned this and felt this when he was a child. He simply could not act on it until he became dictator.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:06 am“If you print this, I’ll be killed,†one local official says after criticizing the political infighting in Basra, Iraq
So is he dead yet? Cause if he isn’t it means it’s not as bad as the (liberal)MSM portrays it. That’s right, progress(and Democracy) on the March.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:36 amAlso, Heres Anouther Judge Giving a Child Molester Probation
Her reasoning:
“So, I’m sitting here thinking this guy has earned his way to prison but then I look at you and I look at your physical size. I look at your basic ability to cope with people and, quite frankly, I shake to think what might happen to you in prison, because I don’t think you’ll do well in prison.â€
Ummmm Yeah, I guess it’s a good thing there are such compassionate judges. Then again if it was up to me the public flogging/dragging behind a horse/spending 3 days tied to a steak in the hot sun, while people threw rotting fruit at him would of began after the words Guilty. This of course would have been followed with wearing a pink jumpsuit in general population in a place that is known for it’s “Large Lonely Menâ€.
But that’s just me.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:45 amAirforce two may experience cabin pressure difficulties.
one can only hope…..
June 1st, 2006 at 11:47 amBut that’s just me.
Comment by Tundra — June 1, 2006 @ 11:45 am
I’m in!
These “people” should never leave prison. NEVER.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:52 amNo one leaves childhood unscathed!
Comment by Jules
Absolutely, Jules. I know everything I’ve been through in my life has made me the person I am today, and I wouldn’t change a thing — even my travesty of a marriage, which is right at the top of my list of worst decisions EVER. As a teen I was pretty hard-hearted and lacked empathy, but then I made a decision to marry at age 17. I learned empathy fairly quickly for abused women, pregnant teens, poor people, disabled people (my eldest), the unemployed, the sick & elderly (me mum), etc., the list goes on. That extremely poor decision at 17 led me to all the decisions I’ve made for myself and my sons since the day I left my marriage, and we’re all the better for it. We would not be the people we are otherwise. Not all my decisions always turned out right at first, but we always landed in a better place eventually.
I wish my sons had had more teachers like you. We have had a few shining star teachers in Idaho, but not nearly enough. Make sure you remind your daughter how lucky she is on your road trip!
June 1st, 2006 at 11:52 amThe end times are nigh!
“Definitely Maybe,” the debut album by Oasis, has beaten the Beatles’ “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” in a British vote for the greatest album of all time, organizers said Thursday.
The Beatles also took third place with “Revolver” and had three other albums in the Top 100 in the vote staged by British Hit Singles & Albums, an annual publication, and NME.com.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:58 amMake sure you remind your daughter how lucky she is on your road trip!
Comment by Zookeeper — June 1, 2006 @ 11:52 am
I have the greatest daughter in the history of daughters. I thank God for bringing her and my husband into my life. They literally kept me alive!
She is 17 and still holds my hand while walking around whether it is in the mall or costco or down the street. She HATES to use the phone but she calls me twice a day, more when she is at her dads.
There is a book, I cannot remember who wrote it titled “Everything I know I Learned in Kindergarten”, or something to that effect. That is so wrong. Everything worth knowing is taught to us by our children!!!
June 1st, 2006 at 12:02 pm“Army Maj. Gen. Eldon Bargewell, who led the probe, “declined to say whether he would characterize it as a ‘coverup.’â€
You mean with ALL the evidence the public and Bushites have…
…we STILL need to HEAR or SEE the words “cover up”…
…to understand that there WAS one?
June 1st, 2006 at 12:06 pmThese “people†should never leave prison. NEVER.
Comment by Jules
My youngest sister used to do intensive supervision of the worst sex offenders as a probation officer. These were guys you had to visit everyday, at all hours of the day & night. One of her scum bags (she had to call them clients) re-offended against his own grandchild, and she was looking for him to take his ass directly back to jail. She spotted him and took off after him, the chase ended with this guy driving off the road over a several hundred foot drop. She knew she had to change jobs later that day when she was telling me how devastated she was about her “client” killing himself, and seeing in my face the abject horror that she had forgotten about the victim. Burn out does terrible things to your judgment. She transferred to pre-sentence investigations and never looked back. If they just leave that kind of scum in prison for the rest of their lives, they don’t have to be watched, and they can only harm each other, not new victims.
June 1st, 2006 at 12:08 pmbig papa – I know, this is so crazy.
Let’s see, people did something really bad then lied. The lie continued even though the original people who were lied to should have known it was a lie because of all the evidence.
Isn’t that the definition of a coverup?
June 1st, 2006 at 12:10 pmThere clearly was a coverup. The question is, how far up did it go, if indeed it went past the accused troops.
June 1st, 2006 at 12:14 pmDoes this exchage I had with Zoo Jr this morning make any sense to anyone?
Me: Did you find out the secret location of your Senior trip today?
June 1st, 2006 at 12:23 pmZoo Jr: I think it’s a water park.
Me: Why do you think it’s a water park?
Zoo Jr: Because our class president is a bitch.
Me: What does that have to do with anything?
Zoo Jr: Bitches like water parks.
Me: ???
There clearly was a coverup. The question is, how far up did it go, if indeed it went past the accused troops.
The keyword is accused. I’m sorry but I refuse to call troops on the ground guilty without a trial. It’s easy to sit here in safety and say that this should have been done this way or that way. We do not have the facts on this issue, we wern’t there. We are simply going off the words of reporters and a politician who has no more facts than you do. If indeed they are found guilty I will happily go along with whatever punishment is handed down.
All over it seems people have already tried, convicted and are now looking for more people to crucify with them.
June 1st, 2006 at 12:25 pm50,
Hard to argue with that logic I’d say!
June 1st, 2006 at 12:26 pmZoo, it’s obvious. It’s the start of canine mating season, and bitches, i.e. female dogs, are “in heat”, so they would prefer to cool down at a nice water park. I’m just surprised the school body elected a dog as class president. That is truly liberalism run amok.
June 1st, 2006 at 12:29 pmAll over it seems people have already tried, convicted and are now looking for more people to crucify with them.
Comment by Tundra — June 1, 2006 @ 12:25 pm
Yeah…I guess this is how all those poor souls at Gittmo feel. However, they are locked up and denied counsel even though they have not even been CHARGED with any wrong doing, or proof that they have done anything wrong. For that matter, how many of the 140 are still being held even though they have been cleared? Some double standard!
June 1st, 2006 at 12:36 pm#52 5 – That clears it right up! Thanks — I guess.
June 1st, 2006 at 12:38 pmSome double standard!
When have I EVER said I supported what happens at Gitmo?? I’d have to say your the one with the double standard. You believe it’s ok for the troops but not for the detainees in Cuba.
I happen to believe in the constitution of the U.S and the Geneva convention.
June 1st, 2006 at 12:39 pmSeems to me that Wallace was a 4 term democrat, not a conservative. Heres anouther little factiod for you guys
“In the post-Civil War South, Democrats used the race issue to solidify their hold on Southern politics, playing on white resentment of black political power.
Comment by squegeeboo #1
queasybooger,
…Pretty soon your adventures in political history will cover the late 50’s and early 60’s and the Civil Rights movement…
…when “REAL” Presidents Kennedy and Johnson pushed thru the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts…
…pissing souther al cracker democrats off…
…and affecting their sudden departure from the democrat ranks, into the bosom of Goldwater Republicans…
…the moral of the story will be…
…yesterday’s racist democrats are none other than TODAY’s racist, conservative Republiscum…
…now run along and play…
…and don’t come back without your parental consent form…
June 1st, 2006 at 12:40 pmOf course the troops are innocent until proven guilty. But it doesn’t look good for them. These people were murdered, that’s been established. They were murdered by people using U.S. military gear, per the ballistics report. Yes, they are innocent until proven guilty, but it seems really unlikely the glove won’t fit.
June 1st, 2006 at 12:44 pm#41 Cheney has an independant source of oxygen for the breathing mask in his black helmet.
June 1st, 2006 at 12:46 pmAnd Squeege, I seem to remember in 2000, the Bush campaign started a whisper campaign in the south, stating McCain had an african american baby! Then McCain hugged and shared his birthday cake with W.
June 1st, 2006 at 12:47 pm#58 Wait for this: no one over sergeant would be indicted. And the ones indicted, would have 2-3 years in prison, as a maximum.
June 1st, 2006 at 12:49 pmUS Senate Should Be Abolished!
Thursday 1st of June 2006
By Jay Randal
When 78 members of the US Senate, of both political parties, voted YES last week for General Hayden to become CIA Director, it exposed Senate as worthless!
Most Senators are basically bribed to kowtow to the Corporate Elite, so they no longer represent common Americans, nor do they stand-up for “Bill of Rights”!
Since Dubya Dunce Decider was appointed in 2000, by a paid-off Supreme Court, to become a despot/dictator president, the Senate has rubber-stamped his policies!
Every fool that Bush has nominated, for any position, has been confirmed by the Senate { except Miers who withdrew }, which proves Senators are willfully inept!
A clear majority of Americans demand accountability in Washington, DC, from their elected representatives and they demand of Senators to stand-up or to resign!
The Constitution intended for there to be checks and balances in the Congress, but the Senate has reneged on its duties, so the Senate should be abolished now!
( Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Stone Mountain, Georgia.)
June 1st, 2006 at 12:54 pm“I seem to remember in 2000, the Bush campaign started a whisper campaign in the south, stating McCain had an african american baby!”
Thats the worst kind of baby.
Zoo
June 1st, 2006 at 1:01 pmI think Jr. is hoping it’s a water park ’cause he likes what the girlies where at them, but explaining that way is much more fun.
When have I EVER said I supported what happens at Gitmo?? I’d have to say your the one with the double standard. You believe it’s ok for the troops but not for the detainees in Cuba.
I happen to believe in the constitution of the U.S and the Geneva convention.
Comment by Tundra — June 1, 2006 @ 12:39 pm
Then I apologize for imputing your party’s rhetoric to you. ANd for the record, I have not said anything is OK for the troops. I have no idea who is involved and at what level. What is undisputed is that there were people shot and killed. Also undisputed is the initial report citing IED’s as the device that killed these individuals. Another undisputed fact is the marines paying money to the families of the victims. What is disputed is who killed these individuals and why.
June 1st, 2006 at 1:05 pm#62 – Jay, by “abolish” do you mean vote the idiots out? I would certainly go along with that.
June 1st, 2006 at 1:08 pm#63 – Squeegy, why do I think you’re right on the mark? He won’t take them out, and won’t talk to them on the phone when they call, but putting on the shades and watching from the edge of the pool sounds about right.
I confess your humor and the way you comment remind me very much of Zoo Jr, except, surprisingly enough, Zoo Jr has a liberal slant.
June 1st, 2006 at 1:17 pmZoo
“I confess your humor and the way you comment remind me very much of Zoo Jr, except, surprisingly enough, Zoo Jr has a liberal slant.”
Well thanks, you would think I would have a liberal slant too, with my parents/siblings leanings, but I was born bitter at life. And that seems to go hand in hand with the GOP life view.
June 1st, 2006 at 1:25 pmThe Army has started cutting costs to make its funding for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan extend for another month
Hadn’t they only used 40% of last years alotment as of a month or so ago? Maybe it was good planning on their part to penny pinch after all.
but I was born bitter at life. And that seems to go hand in hand with the GOP life view.
Spongebob you are going to make me cry!!
June 1st, 2006 at 1:33 pmHadn’t they only used 40% of last years alotment as of a month or so ago? Maybe it was good planning on their part to penny pinch after all.
Comment by squegeeboo — June 1, 2006 @ 1:25 pm
The military wastes so much money. If they spent money on what they actually needed and didn’t get screwed by contractors overcharging they would not need the other 40%.
June 1st, 2006 at 1:36 pmLobbyist = Bribery go-between.
June 1st, 2006 at 1:36 pmLobbyist = traitor to the country.
Squegee
You are just a contradiction in everything aren’t you?
I mean how many:
Recent College Grad, Right Leaning, Homosexual, Capitalistic, Anti-Abortion, Free Trade, Gun Toting People do I know?
Just one :p
June 1st, 2006 at 1:38 pmLet’s see, people did something really bad then lied.
Comment by Jules
Jules,
When the initial report surfaced and cited the fact that the dead civilians were killed by IED’s…
…but the bodies were photographed and covered inside homes with blood spattered walls and bullet holes everywhere…
…I’d say the evidence of lying was pretty clear…
…the fact that this story hasn’t hit American television screens and newspaper front pages with the same ferocity as Abu Ghraib (’til now)…
…is ample evidence of an initial “cover up”…
…for me, the history of this regime’s penchant for secrecy and dishonesty…
…as manifested in war atrocities and numerous “friendly fire” cover ups like Pat Tillman’s murder…
…made this story a no-brainer…
…I admit that I have zero faith in the ability of this criminal administration’s Pentagon (or any other agency under its direct control) to shoot straight with the American…
June 1st, 2006 at 1:48 pm#67 – I’m with Jules, you’re gonna make me cry.
Take this advice from Monty Python’s Life of Brian:
“Always look on the bright side of life…” *whistling* (Don’t pay attention to the rest of the song.)
#71 – Ouch. Damn.
June 1st, 2006 at 1:50 pm“I seem to remember in 2000, the Bush campaign started a whisper campaign in the south, stating McCain had an african american baby!â€
Thats the worst kind of baby.
Comment by squegeeboo #63
queasybooger,
…for an al Cracker…
June 1st, 2006 at 1:54 pm#71 I wouldn’t swing that way, if you wern’t so cute. (I’ll make you pay, mark my words)
June 1st, 2006 at 1:57 pmThe keyword is accused. I’m sorry but I refuse to call troops on the ground guilty without a trial. It’s easy to sit here in safety and say that this should have been done this way or that way. We do not have the facts on this issue, we wern’t there. We are simply going off the words of reporters and a politician who has no more facts than you do. If indeed they are found guilty I will happily go along with whatever punishment is handed down.
All over it seems people have already tried, convicted and are now looking for more people to crucify with them.
Comment by Tundra
On CNN this morning I saw where a mother of a soldier said he told her that one of the childrens brains landed on his boot……. was that child a future terrorist so it was ok?
June 1st, 2006 at 1:59 pmbig papa
…for an al Cracker…
Crackers can have babies? Well at least now I know how they get the two different sizes of Ritz and Goldfish.
June 1st, 2006 at 2:00 pmCrackers can have babies? Well at least now I know how they get the two different sizes of Ritz and Goldfish.
Comment by squegeeboo — June 1, 2006 @ 2:00 pm
Funny!
June 1st, 2006 at 2:10 pmThe keyword is accused. I’m sorry but I refuse to call troops on the ground guilty without a trial. It’s easy to sit here in safety and say that this should have been done this way or that way. We do not have the facts on this issue, we wern’t there. We are simply going off the words of reporters and a politician who has no more facts than you do. If indeed they are found guilty I will happily go along with whatever punishment is handed down.
All over it seems people have already tried, convicted and are now looking for more people to crucify with them.
Comment by Tundra
Tundra the division Commander RELEACED the company commander and Battalion commander over this, and there are Marines being held in the brig..pretrial so there must have been an article 38 investigation…plus the Army Col investigation which was what the Navy department based it’s investigation off of…somebody did something quite bad otherwise all these investigations would not be going on…
And the Commandant of the Marine Corps wopuld not have changed his schedule and made a special trip to Iraq to talk to the Marines about thrie core values…
June 1st, 2006 at 2:15 pmIran tells US to go f*ck itself.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/01/us.iran/index.html
Just what “Dick” Cheney was hoping for, I’m sure.
June 1st, 2006 at 2:36 pmThe Gitmo hunger strike is up to 89 detainees now, raw story is reporting
June 1st, 2006 at 2:38 pmWell at least now I know how they get the two different sizes of Ritz and Goldfish.
Comment by squegeeboo
Do you like the many colored Goldfish crackers along with your milk for mid-morning snack?
June 1st, 2006 at 2:39 pm“Do you like the many colored Goldfish crackers along with your milk for mid-morning snack?”
I wouldn’t know if their multi-colored or not. I, like all other conservatives, live in a color blind world, where crackers are judged on their taste, and not their appearance. Besides, I tend to have fruit for my snack. Stupid healthy eating.
June 1st, 2006 at 2:42 pm#83 – *choke* Is that you, Zoo Jr? God damnit, I knew you were lurking!
What? No milk? Maybe strawberry milk. Chocolate milk?
June 1st, 2006 at 2:47 pm“What? No milk? Maybe strawberry milk. Chocolate milk?”
Nope, fruit(for the first time in my life) coffee and water, those are my work snacks. I’ve got 50 on the line with a buddy for who can loose the most weight, just to force me to be healthy.
June 1st, 2006 at 2:52 pmGerald and Clif,
OK, You are both right, they are guilty as sin. We don’t need a trial for that. For that matter Jefferson is guilty, let’s forget the trial. Hey there are a whole lot of people accused of crimes, let’s just get rid of the whole court idea and sentence them. It would be cheaper than all those pesky trials.
I’m the one always called a facist around here, because I believe in the rule of the law as opposed to mob justice? Go get your pitchforks and lets start this BBQ.
I never said there shouldn’t be an investigation AND punishments IF found guilty.
On CNN this morning I saw where a mother of a soldier said he told her that one of the childrens brains landed on his boot……. was that child a future terrorist so it was ok?
June 1st, 2006 at 3:02 pmComment by Gerald Gibson
(Sarcasm On)
Yeah Gerald that’s what I was saying here. Only a fool couldn’t read that out of my post.(Sarcasm off)
The only way to get true justice is through a trial. Except for Jefferson. That guy’s guilty as sin.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:07 pmcheck
June 1st, 2006 at 3:13 pm#85 – Cool. Lots of water! Men always forget to drink enough water and then they get kidney stones. Let us know when you get the $50. ;)
June 1st, 2006 at 4:31 pmTundra I never said any particular person was guilty of anything …I just noted that the general of ther marine division ahd taken action based on what he knows…and the commandant of the marine corps has taken action based on what he knows…and some people are being held in the brig…probably based on a article 38 investigation …one that is usually required for holding someone against their freedom….I for one do not anyone who is not guilty to suffer one minute…but if a soldier or marine violated the law and murdered inocent children..he or she should face the same justice as if they did it here….
June 1st, 2006 at 4:33 pm#89 “Let us know when you get the $50. ;)”
Ha, right, so you can force me to give it to whatever liberal entitlement program your all in a tizzy about this month? I think not. That’s already earmarked for the all day bender after the final weigh in.
But thanks for the assumed win. I’ll take all the support I can get.
June 1st, 2006 at 4:57 pm#91 – Squeegy, you know I couldn’t make you do anything you didn’t want to do, but since you spend so much time here Think Progress could always use a little extra cash. You know you want to give it to them. After working so hard to be healthy, you wouldn’t want to waste $50 on a hangover, would you? You know you want to…
If you fall for that, I’ll send you my personal check for $50.
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