CEI Defends Chewing Tobacco’s Honor
The Competitive Enterprise Institute – the same group that is trashing Al Gore’s global warming movie with deceptive advertisements – has risen to the defense of chewing tobacco.
A recent blog post on CEI’s website titled “Smokeless Tobacco: It’s Not Just for Rednecks and Ball Players Anymore” warns those arguing chewing tobacco is not safe “might be costing people their lives.” The post links to two websites, For Smokers Only and TobaccoHarmReduction.org that promote chewing tobacco as a safe alternative to smoking cigarettes.
Both sites receive funding by the United States Smokeless Tobacco Company which produces Copenhagen, Skoal, Rooster and other popular brands of chewing tobacco.
Here’s what the World Health Organization has to say about chewing tobacco:
Oral tobacco has been recognized since at least the 1980s to cause addiction, several forms of cancer and various dental diseases. The adverse health effects of oral tobacco mixtures have been extensively reviewed. All concur that smokeless tobacco products contain addictive levels of nicotine, many carcinogens, heavy metals, and other toxins, though recognizing that the levels of nicotine and toxins vary widely across products.
In general, oral tobacco products are highly addictive, and typically contain several carcinogens that cause head, neck and throat cancers with high rates of premature mortality.
Dipping: they say it causes cancer, we call it life.
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“Smokeless Tobacco: It’s Not Just for Rednecks and Ball Players Anymoreâ€
Oh, yes it is.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:12 amThe CEI, in conjuction with Clorox, is completing a report that concludes that bleach is a great weight loss alternative.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:13 amDIP BUSH!
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:14 amThere was a sign at a gas station here in redneck Georgia that said “The Freshst Copenhagen in Town.” It took me a good five minutes to figure out what ‘Copenhagen’ was… silly me… I was trying to think along the lines of pastries (Danishes).
Gross. That stuff is seriously nasty.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:15 amRonco has just produce a used chewing tobbaco re-processing facility. The Spittle Urns are mixed with the ashes from ashtrays all over america! And guess what? We have reduced the price of Cancer to half it’s former cost! A true Boon for those who must pay chemotherapy and still Dip!
Bush Dip we call it.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:17 am“Smokeless Tobacco: It’s Not Just for Rednecks and Ball Players Anymoreâ€
Actually, it’s not for ballplayers either. It’s outlawed in the Minor Leagues and less major league players are using it.
So I guess that means it’s just for rednecks, then.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:17 amUuuuggghhhhh!!! Gross! The teeth, the breath, the constant spitting, and that’s just the girls.
I am not kidding.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:17 amWhores. They’ll lie about anything for a buck.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:21 amWow… that site is almost as good as The Onion.
Here’s another story on CEI’s site:
I already have great skin, but just for the RARE break out, I’ve just been prescribed Doryx by Warner/Chilcott (not a CEI donor)- a brand new pill that not only keeps my skin clear and beautiful, but also treats gonorrhea, syphilis, inhalation anthrax, malaria and dysentery. That means I can go to a 3rd world mosquito infested, war torn/ biological weapon danger zone country, drink the water AND have unprotected sex with the locals and still be okie dokie.
No, seriously. That’s really on their site.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:22 amI must commend CEI for the sides they choose to champion on these tough topics. Or is that condemn? I mean its not easy to defend a position with no facts to back you up. They must really want to bring the discussion on these subjects to the public eye. Well done I say.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:23 amUuuuggghhhhh!!! Gross! The teeth, the breath, the constant spitting, and that’s just the girls.
I am not kidding.
Hey don’t you be makin fun of my Thelma Joe Wayne Bob Sister MoM Cosin!!
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:24 amWe is like Royalty.
I used to work on some legal defense work for a smokeless tobacco company and they don’t have such a bad case. There is a high association of leukoplakia with smokeless tobacco, but even if all leukoplakias became cancer (they don’t) it’s still a much lower risk than lung cancer or CHF from smoking. What makes tabacco particularly dangerous is when it is burned or cured, as this produces Tobacco-Specific Nitrosamines. UST has been working on reducing the TSN’s in cured smokeless tobacco. In sum, if you’re going to use tobacco, smokeless tobacco is relatively safer.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:28 amCEI just blew what little credibility they had left…
Do these PR companies have no sense of integrity…
jeez
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:28 amGosh, I guess I’m defaming prostitutes. Sorry. Anyone got a better term? Charlatans doesn’t include the money aspect.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:28 amThere are also spitless varieties of smokeless tobacco.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:30 amThat means I can go to a 3rd world mosquito infested, war torn/ biological weapon danger zone country, drink the water AND have unprotected sex with the locals and still be okie dokie.
That would be like buying condoms from Halliburton. It will cost a fortune, be immoral, and you won’t enjoy the screwing you get., and it won’t do the job it was suppose to do.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:30 amNo, seriously. That’s really on their site.
Comment by bobcat_grad — June 2, 2006 @ 11:22 am
Shows how stupid the Average American has become if these poeple have an actual audience…
Compared to them, the Onion is first rate journalism…
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:30 amthis has all the makings of a hot button issue in a few months, and it seems the elitest libs are all spitting out their starbucks at how disgusting it is, whereas the votes needed are being packed and dipped as we speak…i’m registered blue, have been my whole life - as long as i have been drinking espresso!, but this us vs. them, from nascar to volvos just gets dubyas sholders shaking and roves ass all sweaty…cei is a mouth piece for cancer, word, so their message on environmental issues is subject to scruitny (as shown in the last line of the post) put for everyone here to point and laugh, all it will do is send all those spitting by the computer over to fox news where they arent offended
hate the game not the player
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:32 amNow now Judd - this is more of their Culture of Life. So what if it costs you your lower jaw?
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:40 amThere are also spitless varieties of smokeless tobacco.
why don’t they just give them nicotine pills so the lazy smokers and chewers can’t be taking a break every 10-15 minutes or sneaking off to the rest room, or the car, or outside, or the roof.
Cigarrette and Tobacco users, im ny experience, were always the worst employees. You only get half a dayds work out of them because the addictive personality takes up too much of their brain cycles.
Masy as well give them Handicap stickers and plates.
Coughing, Hacking, Sick all the time. Emphysema, Smelly clothes.
Rove Bush Cancer Smoking. I don’t think this is a subject that either Bush nor Rove will touch, some forget that much of Bush base are southerners, and they like their tobacco.
Yeh, I dare Rove to weigh in on ‘Partisan Cancer’ issue Bushlitt, thats like saying only Liberals have DWI’s when both Dick and Duhbya have them =)
Naw, Olielly and crew will center around the California Satanists, which I don’t think any here are part or parcel too, but expect a 6-6-6 hullabaloo about some War on some Pagans or some other stupid crap that we have nothing to do with.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:43 amOy.
Right now I have in my arm an IV drip of pure lard, and I encourage my entire family and all my friends to do the same. Ya’ll might call it heart disease and stroke, but I call it life.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:44 amIn sum, if you’re going to use tobacco, smokeless tobacco is relatively safer.
Comment by Benjamin — June 2, 2006 @ 11:28 am
Lemme try that logic:
In summary, if you’re going to shoot yourself, aim for an extremity, and not the head or torso.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:46 am#22 survival is survival
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:48 amPerhaps Dr. Bill Frist will weigh in and clear up the matter.
If you can catch AIDS from sweat, if Terri Schiavo could actually break-dance just prior to her death, then surely chewing tobacco builds strong bodies.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:49 amAnne Coulter, Lawyer Dingbat turned Prophet, now says that Liberals have no soul. I guess that means the 90% that approved of Bush, which is now 70% not for Bush, have become Liberals Overnite, Now I wonder how Anne Coulter will Explain this phenom.
Do souls simply evaporate when people say; “Ya know, that Bush Cheney Duo, is a screwup, and this corruption is not such a good thing”
Whoosh your SOUL leaves you!
And why would a good soul leave someone that had seen corruption? Mayne then it was not a Soul? Maybe it was the Bush Debbil? The Ghost of Skull and Bones? The spirit of death than lives in the coffin they use. Surely, would anyone of you drink from the skull of a dead man?
My My, Anne Coulter has some lying, errr, Explaining to do.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:53 amChewing tobacco is an extremely toxic and deadly substance, but the GOP wants it unregulated to maximise profits for Tobacco industries!
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:54 amI’d appreciate help with a little Oklahoma College Republican project we have going over at Agitprop (cross posted at Operation Yellow Elephant) …
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:55 am18- I agree with you halfway. Everybody has a right to choose to smoke or not smoke, dip or not dip, liberal or conservative or centrist. And that is fine!
Non-tobacco users, by and large, find tobacco usage repelling. That crosses party lines and is an opinion of many people. I’m sure you will find just as many conservative non-tobacco users that are the same way.
The problem is not saying dipping is safER than smoking. The problem is saying it is SAFE. There is a difference. Yes, you may have LESS chance of dying of cancer, but you still have a higher chance than a non-tobacco user. You won’t find many medical professionals recommending dipping over smoking. They will recommend quitting altogether.
That is just that. There is no liberal or conservative on this one.
Also, seriously, do you really think there are more “libs” than conservatives at starbucks? Starbucks is like $10 per cup hahaha. Us poor working folks can’t afford that very often and still pay rent/mortgage. ;-)
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:56 amIn summary, if you’re going to shoot yourself, aim for an extremity, and not the head or torso.
Comment by bobcat_grad — June 2, 2006 @ 11:46 am
Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind the next time I’m playing around with loaded fire arms without latching the safety… :)
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:58 amFINALLY!
A conservative “stink” tank’s campaign I can heartily support…
…I hope EVERY conservative inbred al Cracker (and al Cracker wannabe) Bushite in the world chews, dips, and puffs to their heart’s content…
…or infarction, and cancer…
…this is supposed to be a free country…RIGHT?…
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:04 pm#17 They sell chewing tobacco next to the snake oil bottles…
A last tought about the “harmless” chewing tobacco:
nic·o·tine ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nk-tn)
n.
A colorless, poisonous alkaloid, C10H14N2, derived from the tobacco plant and used as an insecticide. It is the substance in tobacco to which smokers can become addicted.
I guess they can get the same pleasure from sucking a DDT can….
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:07 pm#28,
I am in no way arguing in favor of dipping, or say it is safe, but to classify everyone who dips as toothless hicks does not send the right message, and helps keep up the right wing/fox news/ny times/cnn mantra of the elitiest left, out of touch with middle america
since it has been 8 months since i have touched a tobacco product (well, except for the patch regimine) I can agree with the how much of a difference is between tobacco users and non tobacco users which crosses party lines (the conservative non-smokers jsut want to wipe out all smokers fromt he face of the earth, you know their style - their way or the highway)
as far as coffee goes
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:09 pmbrew your own esspresso-those machines suck the soul out of it (and don’t buy it for over $5/lb!!!!)
#32 - that’s the half i agree with. We have at least one dipper at work. Far from a stereotypical redneck. In fact, he’s a city boy. He’s a software developer — a top notch programmer even! Often has a styrofoam cup full of spit at his desk. Gross? Indeed. Stereotypical redneck? Hardly.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:15 pm#33
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:20 pmyeah, most of our IT dips here as well, and i think they are more in to techno than trucks
Just out from CEI…. The holocaust didnt really happen after all! And they can back it up! They have quotes from a certain world leader that provides all the evidence they need!
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:21 pm#35 - Zyklon B, you call it mass extermination, we call it life.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:52 pm/sarcasm off
Who knew? Using smokeless tobacco, in moderation, of course, can actually SAVE lives? Because the survival rate of smokeless tobacco related cancers is SO much higher than lung cancer survival rates. Jeepers!! But at least ‘dippers’ are only hurting themselves. That is something, anyway. On a related note, my local paper had a story a few days ago, that made me laugh. Headline: “Smoking Pot Does Not Cause Lung Cancer.” The man who conducted this 20 year study, was stunned by the results. Pot is ‘natural’!! No need for all of those additives they put on tobacco, the ones that cause the cancer. Silly man. Years ago, I was about 15, and my friends, Kim and Andrea (sisters) and Diane, decided that we would try the chewing Tobacco that Kim and Andrea’s dad had. This stuff came in a block though, and was stringy too. We went to the side of the house, against the garage, hidden behind a fence. After making sure we were ‘alone’, we each took a clump of this stuff and put it in our mouths. We lasted about a minute and a half. The gagging and spitting went on and on. Nasty stuff. I felt queasy all day. (shudder)
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:07 pm#4 - I was trying to think along the lines of pastries (Danishes).
that reminds me of a police report I saw recently. Someone had spray-painted on a wall at the University “Ban the Danish.” The cop who wrote the report had a sense of humor (must have been new), because he wrote that he was confused as to whether it meant the Danish people or the rich, buttery pastry.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:12 pmbecause he wrote that he was confused as to whether it meant the Danish people or the rich, buttery pastry.
Comment by Zookeeper — June 2, 2006 @ 1:12 pm
Well, you know the donut, cousin of the rich, butter pastry, is the Police Coat of Arms :)
A cop with a sense of humor? Interesting :)
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:29 pmThe gagging and spitting went on and on. Nasty stuff. I felt queasy all day. (shudder)
Comment by Cyra Brown — June 2, 2006 @ 1:07 pm
In high school, my best friend had taken a can of Coprnhagen from one of the guys, and opened thelid, pretending to pour it into her mouth. Well, I was 15 also, and before I could think about it, my hand flew up and tapped the bottom of the can so that most of the contents went into her mouth. While the guy who owned the Copenhagen started fussing about his dip, my bestfriend was spitting and choking like she had dog poo in her mouth. She spent the rest of the day picking little black specks out of her teeth, and giving me grief for how bad that stuff tasted. 20 something years later and neither of us ever started smoking…
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:36 pmkaty here - a warning for those who want to skip…
congrats! bushllit - it gets better, i promise… 5 years for me… i swore i didn’t have as many upper respiratory ailments when i WAS smoking as i did after quitting… an exageration, but i thought the coughing would never let up!
hang in there! it was about the hardest thing i’ve ever done - give me childbirth!
and, i worked as pharmacy tech in a cancer research hospital - the 1/2 faces i saw would surely deter most anyone from chew… you would think…
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:39 pm#39 & #40 - Ha! & Ick!, respectively. :0
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:39 pmPost 39 > Police should sell Dunkin Donuts out of the back of their cars since they eat donuts so much > plus half their pay could be reimbursed to the police departments for selling donuts > lol.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:40 pmA guy in town thought he’d be smart and open a donut shop right across the street from the police station — it went out of business in less than a year. Our cops in Moscow are quite fit — short, but fit.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:43 pmPost 44 your police are an exception to the rule! Bumper sticker I like says it all: “Bad Cop - No Donuts” > lol.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:47 pmshort, but fit.
Comment by Zookeeper — June 2, 2006 @ 1:43 pm
Ah, the bit pulls…
I have a question for everyone who tells me a ‘boss nightmare’ story. So far, the overwhelming majority of Napoleon Complexed Bad Bosses have height issues… Isn’t W a midget for a President? That could explain a few things…
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:12 pmBumper sticker I like says it all: “Bad Cop - No Donuts†> lol.
Comment by Jay Randal — June 2, 2006 @ 1:47 pm
I wonder how many speeding tickets that one is good for?
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:13 pmInstead of Squeegies “I’m a little fuzzy bunny” comment that replaces the comments of obnoxious posters, mine says ‘The I.Q. in here just dropped by 50 points”…
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:17 pmPost 47 > Someone gave me that bumper sticker, but no way would I put it on my car > instead I had it on my refrigerator at my house! I did consider putting it on a police car bumper, but I figured once the cop realized it was on there, the guy might go ballistic and shoot some bystander?
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:43 pm#46 - I have a question for everyone who tells me a ‘boss nightmare’ story. So far, the overwhelming majority of Napoleon Complexed Bad Bosses have height issues…
Comment by unbelievable
This has been true almost 100% of the time with me. Bosses and landlords. I am almost 6 feet tall — get a picture of that in your mind, Miss Salma. The worst boss I ever had was about 5′7″, not all that short really, but in comparison to me, he felt short. Nazis would look good next to this guy. An old landlord was the same way, he would come to my workplace at the time, an office in a hotel he owned, and start flinging his crap around trying to intimidate me — always in the presence of witnesses. All I had to do with either the boss or landlord was draw myself up to my full height and step in close. They’d back off every time. That’s a height issue, for sure.
On the other hand, there’s an accountant who works across the hall from my office, he’s about 5′3″ — one of the most confident men I’ve ever met.
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:45 pmbut I figured once the cop realized it was on there, the guy might go ballistic and shoot some bystander?
Comment by Jay Randal — June 2, 2006 @ 2:43 pm
One of my cousins used to be a cop. He’s huge - 6′-2″ and about 225. His rule was that he wouldn’t ticket people for speeding if he himself sped. He eventually left because he said it was a terribly corrupt system.
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:53 pmOn the other hand, there’s an accountant who works across the hall from my office, he’s about 5′3″ — one of the most confident men I’ve ever met.
Comment by Zookeeper — June 2, 2006 @ 2:45 pm
Always exceptions. I’m sure there are many in here :).
But the yipppie dogs you had for a boss and landlord seem to be the norm. And well, in nature, the bigger animal has right of way. Don’t the bear (and other predatory animals) advice books tell you that if you encounter one - make yourself look as big as possible? Seems you found it applies to short men as well :).
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:58 pmso, zookeeper… i’ve been gone a while…
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:08 pmdo you have a comment filter also?
Far as I’m concerned, I’d like to see more smokers start chewing. When someone smokes in my vicinity, I have to breathe it.
If strangers want to engage in recreational activities that can kill them, that’s none of my business. Just leave me out of it.
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:38 pm#45- My favorite Bumper sticker… so far: “Jesus is coming… Look busy!” SOOO funny!
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:45 pm#53 - I don’t understand what you’re saying, katy. Where have you been?
June 2nd, 2006 at 4:40 pm#54 - Far as I’m concerned, I’d like to see more smokers start chewing. When someone smokes in my vicinity, I have to breathe it.
You’ve never smelled that shit on someone’s breath, have you? *gag*
June 2nd, 2006 at 4:47 pmhey zoo - thanks for the reply… i’ve been around, just dis-abled…
i think this happened to me:
Apparently, even the open thread isn’t. I got an email from IRI. Apparently he can post, but he’s the only one who can see it. Yet lunatics like Denny and Santo have no problem. I’m confused… Aren’t we the inclusive people? Free speech and the right to be an idiot? Just skip over the posts by peole you don’t want to read? When did that change?
I’m disappointed. I thought we were bigger than the Red State crowd…
Comment by unbelievable — June 1, 2006 @ 6:09 pm
surprised? also see #48
June 2nd, 2006 at 4:57 pmFor the delusional and paranoid. I have no influence over Think Progress, nor do I know any of the staff personally. I’m just a liberal blogger like most everyone else. Even my posts have been deleted a couple of times. But since I regularly can control myself, it doesn’t happen as often as those who yell and act like raving lunactics The conspiracy crowd really has become paranoid - even of other liberals… Sheesh.
My comment was in response to your refusal to stop acknowledging me in your passive-aggressive manner. I have no filters. It was a joke at your expense since you can’t seem to stop talking about me. Didn’t know it would make you act even more paranoid and delusional. You need a therapist.
June 2nd, 2006 at 5:58 pmzoo - i have no idea why… TP said it was an error with a spam filter…
June 2nd, 2006 at 6:20 pmi was talking to myself for most of this week… heh!
had some good thoughts too! ah well…
the tip off was a comment i made to you directly, yesterday, in response to your son and the water park (heh) and when i didn’t get an answer i had my daughter check it out on her puter at school - she saw nothing… so, after many emails to TP, the thing is “fixed”… i thought it was strange also…
lesson learned…
#61 - I’m glad that’s fixed up, katy. It must be weird to be posting comments and all you get is crickets chirping.
My darling Zoo Jr didn’t end up going to the water park, so he was wrong about bitches liking water parks. Apparently bitches like bowling, pinball, cruising on Coeur d’Alene Lake, and eating dinner in expensive hotels. Sounds like my kind of bitch!
Welcome back!
June 2nd, 2006 at 6:48 pmthanks zoo… it was weird… but the weirdest was when all of a sudden those posts went missing - *poof* - even i didn’t see them… i emailed TP, and *poof* they were back… so i’m happily posting away, occasionally, not noticing or caring about responses, till that message to you yesterday…
for the record, here it is - i wonder if it’s there now? - from yesterday’s think fast:
59. aah, zookeeper - that was rich!
reminds me of an epiphany i had years ago - i had my son first, then my daughter, 5 years apart - it wasn’t too many years into the girl that i realized boys are sooo much easier to raise - simply because of their lack of pretense and emotion! girls are such a handful!
but, like jules story, my daughter and i are very close now, even the holding hands thing - makes me so proud and happy… and my son, he’s just such a guy, always breaking my mommy heart and so unaware, bless him… venus and mars…
Comment by katy — June 1, 2006 @ 12:41 pm
i would think it’s still a little too cool in idaho for water parks!
June 2nd, 2006 at 7:05 pmsounds like they all had a good time…
#63 - That was sweet, katy. My kids are 5 years apart, too. I’m so glad I had boys, that high-pitched giggle girls have drives me to homicidal thoughts. I have a niece that I just love to pieces. My sis is upset because her daughter looks more like me then her, HA! I still get a kiss from Zoo Jr every morning when I drop him off at school — and he’s graduating next Friday. I’ve never had the “don’t want to be seen with mom” thing with either of them. Jr wants to shave his head for graduation, so I may not want to be seen with him! Ah, motherhood…
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:18 pmyea, zoo… just to clear this up - my son still says “i love you” whenever we talk - he’s in california - and until we parted i always got my goodbye kisses, and all that… he’s just not into talking to me/mom about his life and love the way my daughter is… sometimes forgets that sunday call, not realizing how my mind conjures up the most awful things… but then, imagine that… it’s a guy thing…
i just didn’t want you to have the wrong impression…
and congrats on the graduation - you’ll see the big changes soon! hang in!
hint: don’t let those kisses ever stop - no matter what!
that’s all for this - i’m just so glad to know i’m not bannished anymore… it’s good to get some feefback… my daughter was making fun of me, i was starting to jones!
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:10 pmkaty, I fully expect Zoo Jr is going to make me crazy by not calling or returning calls. He’s already told me not to be calling all the time. I told him I won’t if he returns my email messages in a timely manner — timely manner of my definition, of course! At my baby is moving only 2 hours away, for now. I’ll have a chance to adjust. He dreams of working overseas as a photojournalist, so I just have to trust that I raised him right and he’ll be ok. He also loves to take extremely close-up photos, so I can hope he gets a job in a lab taking pictures of germs or viruses. I’m clearly crazy…
Goodnight for now. I’ll be checking in from time to time this weekend since the weather is crap. It rained so hard and so much at noon today that we had flash floods in the streets. I drove real fast through a giant puddle and almost stalled the car — it was great!
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:43 pmNext Tuesday is the 6-6-6 day > 6th month, 6th day, and 6th year of the new century! Bush and the Repubs in Congress originally were going to attack Gay marriages on Tuesday, but Pat Robertson reminded Dubya Dunce Decider that Monday would be better > lol.
June 3rd, 2006 at 1:19 amI wonder when people actually place or ‘dip’ in the ‘chaw’ are they REALLY looking at the site. I don’t know; maybe they are so locked in on how to do that they don’t sneak a peek. Maybe they brush their teeth in the dark. Interesting. Here’s a test for those who chew: Get in front of a mirror, pull back your lower lip and take a GOOD look at your gums.Ignore the brown stuff for now and just look at your gums, especially around your lower teeth: if you have been at this a while, you are likely to have red, receding gum tissue(gums are typically pink and firm) and maybe some white spots or markings in the affected area , then make an appointment with a reputable dental professional and get a diagnosis(it COULD be cancerous, and we all know what cancer can do:spread).I hear throat cancer aint pretty and presents serious problems for smokers and chewers alike. The tobacco industry doesn’t care about whether their product kills you the way I care about you getting the help to stop this habit. I mean no offense, it’s just that it is such a SENSLESS form of indulgence. Now strawberry ice cream…..
June 3rd, 2006 at 8:57 ammy brother just lost his jaw all his teeth and now has spots on his lungs from pipe smoking tobacco for 30 years. i can imagine what putting the frickin tobacco in your mouth between your lip and your teeth is gonna do?
June 3rd, 2006 at 10:58 ammaybe Laura Bush should switch from cigarettes to chew. Safer you know!
June 3rd, 2006 at 11:11 amOOO! speaking of laura - it’s no wonder she’s smoking! surely you’ve all heard of THIS latest story:
June 2, 2006 — A White House source, speaking on background, vehemently denied to WMR that there are marital problems between President Bush and First Lady Laura Bush over a reported extramarital affair between Mr. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. However, two mainstream media sources have confirmed that their sources also have reported an ongoing affair between Mr. Bush and Rice.
June 3rd, 2006 at 11:30 amhttp://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
(scroll down a bit, below the yellow box)
#71 - Ewwwww……eewwww….accckkkkk!!! First thing on a Saturday morning, ugh! The hell with the brillo pad, I’m taking a wire brush to my eyes. I can’t stand Condi Rice, but damn, she couldn’t do better than that? Blech…
June 3rd, 2006 at 12:24 pmThe chick from CEI responded to your post. In fairness, she makes a pretty good point: even though smokeless tobacco isn’t totally safe, it’s a lot safer than smoking, and if we can’t get people to quit using tobacco, the next best thing is to get them to use safer alternatives, alternatives that, even though they have problems, are much less deadly than cigarettes.
I don’t see what TP is disagreeing with here. Is it just that you don’t like CEI, or is there a good reason why, if elininating risk doesn;t seem to work with a lot of people, we shouldn’t at least try to reduce risk?
Also, she’s kind of hot for a hack.
June 3rd, 2006 at 3:52 pmIts true, I’ve never seen so many people, and many young people at that take up dip and chew. It was a friggin’ epidemic last year at high school.
June 3rd, 2006 at 11:16 pmAs far as I see it the diseases and cancers it causes are less fatal and debilitating, plus it smells delicious. Also, I don’t get second hand smoke from it so if someone wants to dip or chew I could care less. I’d rather be around a heavy chewer/dipper over a heavy smoker or drinker any day.
[…] And another example of how corporatism rules. Paying people to yammer various nonsense. I guess this could be dangerous in uncivilized society, where people are more or less educated. No wait… The ACLU of Indiana filed suit this week to block an Indianapolis ordinance that would prevent former sex offenders from traveling, living, or working within 1,000 feet of a park, playground, swimming pool, recreation center, sports field, or other designated areas where children might congregate. […]
June 4th, 2006 at 4:18 amWow… that site is almost as good as The Onion.
I daresay The Onion is actually a lot more credible. I’ve seen a couple of their articles a few years ago that actually seemed to be prophetic, as those bits of news did come true in a few years (for example, one of their articles said GWB will soon declare war on Iraq, and that was a year or so before he actually did ^_^)
I wonder if the people on that blog can actually write that stuff with a straight face. “…that public health crusaders’ emphasis on risk elimination—rather than risk reduction—might be costing people their lives”?? Priceless.
June 5th, 2006 at 1:41 pmwho give a #^&@. let people do whatever they want. are you really gonna stand there drinking coffee or some derivative thereof, and bitch about smokers and dippers? i dont smoke (quit) dont drink (quit) and still dip sometimes when i feel like it, at work. it doesnt affect my job, or your job. and whats with all the political rhetoric? research a little on your own. maybe your non addictive brain will wake up a little and realize politics (from both sides) have nothing to do with the american people, and havent for many many years. if you check into it a bit, you’ll find that most of our founding fathers were against big centralized govt’s for this very reason. in fact a couple of them (look it up on your own so you dont think im regurgitating made up facts given to me third hand) thought that a nation should over throw its govt every 20 years or so, just to keep it under control. or dont look it up. just keep believing everything anyone tells you. be sheep.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:40 ami am a cowboy and i enjoy my copenhagen snuff..its hell of better than smoking…i dont know wat i would do without copenhagen. it satisfies. since 1822.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:15 pmBoth the renters for their belongings and landlords for their buildings…but 20 dollars is not much in todays world and fire fighting equipment is costly….the fire always will be put out and lives risked to save innocent people…the subscription just helps spread the financial burdern to all.
November 20th, 2006 at 8:26 amI am almost 6 feet tall — get a picture of that in your mind, Miss Salma. The worst boss I ever had was about 5′7″, not all that short really, but in comparison to me, he felt short. Nazis would look good next to this guy. An old landlord was the same way, he would come to my workplace at the time, an office in a hotel he owned, and start flinging his crap around trying to intimidate me — always in the presence of witnesses. All I had to do with either the boss or landlord was draw myself up to my full height and step in close.
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December 30th, 2006 at 9:12 am[…] The Center for American Progress’s ThinkProgress blog has taken issue with my post yesterday about smokeless tobacco. I’m a little confused by their response. It basically restates my two main arguments—that using smokeless tobacco products is far less dangerous than using regular tobacco products and that a campaign of total tobacco prohibition, rather than moderation, may be costing people their lives by implying that anything short of total tobacco abstinence is deadly. But after restating my arguments, their post doesn’t actually refute either one of them in any substantive way, instead bringing up the same old WHO line that I posted myself: smokeless tobacco isn’t a safe alternative to cigarettes. […]
January 13th, 2007 at 7:36 pmi would like to address all of you who think that smokeless tobacco personell are useless. where i work, we have to get planes off the ground, or people like you will die! we dont take smoke breaks because if we do, your safety hangs in the balance. we dip or chew, so we dont need to smoke, and we get those planes in the air yes it means spitting under the planes as we take a second to move our heads, but i think you thank us for tat one second we take for our selves. we take up dipping and chewing tot kick the smoking habit that we have aquired, just so you can remain safe. so to say that we are rednecks or hillbilly’s, is way out of line. i chose dipping from smoking because i needed a nicotine fix yes, but not to risk your freedom in the process! i think you for your time. next time, think about the circumstances before you blurt out your opinion!
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:46 am